[00:33] <asac> chrisccoulson: lets talk about extensions tomorrow
[00:33] <asac> will check that list more carefully
[00:33] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, no worries
[00:33] <asac> i think some of those marked as removed should stay
[00:33] <chrisccoulson> i won't be around all day tomorrow
[00:33] <asac> but if you say its broken upstream, its probably fine
[00:33] <asac> chrisccoulson: yeah i figure
[00:33] <asac> ;)
[00:34] <asac> friday is holiday
[00:34] <asac> i think i will catch you
[00:34] <asac> will fly back on sat
[00:34] <asac> and take tue a swap day
[00:34] <asac> but we can surealy chat to sort this out to nail down the rest for lucid
[00:35] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it would be good to get that sorted before final freeze
[00:37] <asac> ack
[00:38] <asac> chrisccoulson: i think in general its fine and you should decide what to do
[00:38] <asac> i just think one or two of those marked as removed might be policically nice to keep
[00:38] <asac> otherwise ... well done.
[00:38] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, thanks
[00:38] <chrisccoulson> the other thing micahg mentioned to me tonight is bug 525621
[00:39] <asac> whats the problem there=
[00:39] <asac> =
[00:39] <asac> ?
[00:39] <asac> damn ;)
[00:39] <chrisccoulson> that seems tricky to solve (it's hardy's 1.9.0 xul postrm script failing, when we remove it after the upgrade)
[00:39] <chrisccoulson> i've not looked at it in detail yet, but it's the update-alternatives call which fails
[00:40] <asac> chrisccoulson: in the old package postrm?
[00:40] <asac> hmm
[00:40] <chrisccoulson> so, i'm not sure how to handle that other than providing a transitional xul1.9 package in lucid whose purpose is just to clean up the mess from hardy
[00:40] <asac> chrisccoulson: yeah. .... what removes the package actually?
[00:40] <chrisccoulson> i think update-manager gives the option to remove it because it's no longer in the archive
[00:41] <asac> true
[00:41] <asac> so yeah. i think if all rdepends are gone using a transitional package is probably the right way
[00:41] <chrisccoulson> so, i'll think about how to do that over the weekend
[00:41] <asac> or talking to mvo if he can do somde hack on update-manager side
[00:41] <asac> he can do some tstuff
[00:41] <asac> and we dont support these upgrades just with apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:42] <asac> so if there is an update-manager tweak that would be fine
[00:42] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i will chat to him too
[00:43] <asac> kk... sounds like a plan
[00:43] <asac> ok have to drop out ... busy day tomorrow again :(
[00:44] <asac> will be back at 1700 UTC for a bit
[00:44] <asac> then back on wednesday :/
[00:44] <asac> but lets chat in the meantime if you are there
[00:44] <asac> 22:16 < sebner> asac: bah, you br0ke firefox with your last upload :P
[00:44] <asac> chrisccoulson: ^^
[00:44] <asac> any idea what happened?
[00:45] <crimsun> in Lucid? that doesn't make sense. It WFM.
[00:46] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, i'm not sure. i've not had any issues yet
[00:47] <asac> chrisccoulson: did the security updates go out yet? if so, maybe check bugs sorted by NEW
[00:47] <asac> ;)
[00:47] <asac> e.g. most recent
[00:47] <asac> not sure ... sebner posted it here in the channel a few ours ago
[00:47] <chrisccoulson> asac - not yet, i'm still waiting for the xulrunner builds to finish and publish
[00:47] <asac> lets check with him; if there is not a bug flood its probably ok
[00:47] <chrisccoulson> then i will do the firefox uploads to the PPA in the morning
[00:48] <chrisccoulson> there's been quite some delay with the builders today, mostly due to me ;)
[00:48] <asac> chrisccoulson: yeah. maybe try to catch sebner tomorrow ... maybe he is running security ppa
[00:48] <asac> most likely its just noise ;)
[00:48] <asac> but better safe than sorry
[00:48] <chrisccoulson> yeah, possibly. the security PPA is still in transition at the moment until everything builds
[00:49] <asac> kk
[00:49] <chrisccoulson> asac - and the lucid firefox upload isn't published yet either
[00:49] <asac> hmm
[00:50] <asac> so it probably was ppa indeed. i think we should really check if we can find him
[00:50] <asac> though he might just be confused ;)
[00:50] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i will try and get hold of him
[00:50] <chrisccoulson> but things haven't settled down yet in the security PPA
[00:51] <chrisccoulson> oh, ok, firefox is published on i386 in lucid
[00:51] <chrisccoulson> but not on amd64, which is why i don;'t see it
[00:54] <asac> crimsun: thx. you run i386?
[00:56]  * asac off (sorry ... long and early day tomorrow)
[02:38] <micahg> chrisccoulson: anything else we need to chat about tonight or you need me to take care of?
[03:35] <micahg> chrisccoulson: new version of Firefox, I'm bumping the changelog
[09:33] <micahg> chrisccoulson: FYI, NSS needs NSPR >= 4.8 which means I have to add that to the PPA for <= Jaunty as well
[10:03] <sebner> asac: I'm never confused :P
[10:06] <asac> heh
[10:06] <asac> sebner: so please talk to chris about your issues
[10:12] <sebner> chrisccoulson: asac: issue is gone. Yesterday I updated firefox (normal lucid repo) and restartet it. dpkg -l showed 3.6.2 but firefox itself still 3.6. Another restart, same result. Everything worked fine except debian git webbrowsing showed me this XML-failure thing. Now everything is fine
[10:13] <asac> sebner: ok. seems your firefox wasnt properly restarted then
[10:13] <asac> e.g. log out/in cures it
[10:14] <sebner> asac: aye, I'll keep that in mind :) It just confused me that restarted firefox *twice* and nothing changed
[10:15] <asac> sebner: right. ffox for ages soketimes goes in bad state
[10:15] <asac> when running while upgrading
[10:15] <asac> especially if you see the XML failure its always busted frm there on
[10:16] <sebner> asac: I guess but the restart normally works. I guess if was your april joke. If (user == sebner) break();
[10:16] <sebner> ;-P
[10:42] <asac> heh
[10:45] <fta> chromium does better there. it's not impacted by upgrades
[10:54] <asac> well. chromium is all static
[10:54] <asac> so its not any magic ;)
[10:54] <asac> i would expect that upgrading might make the -sandbox thing incompatible from time to time
[10:55] <asac> or is that preloaded and never loaded after start?
[10:55] <fta> nope, ch keeps fd opens to plenty of files, so upgrades have no impact until either ch or the desktop is restarted
[10:56] <fta> restarting my desktop, brb
[11:21] <sebner> asac: GRR, yesterday firefox 3.6.3 got released.
[11:53] <BUGabundo> fta: what is this I read about BZR repo changing formats? I can't upgrade most of my local branches
[12:27] <asac> chrisccoulson: ^^ (ffox 3.6.3)
[12:27] <asac> :)
[12:29] <asac> BUGabundo: you need to upgrade them
[12:29] <BUGabundo> I need?
[12:29] <BUGabundo> they are not mine
[12:30] <asac> bug 541030
[12:30] <chrisccoulson> hi asac
[12:30] <fta> BUGabundo, then drop yours and fetch new ones
[12:30] <chrisccoulson> another ffox release?
[12:30] <BUGabundo> ok
[12:30] <asac> hi chrisccoulson
[12:31] <asac> chrisccoulson: welcome to the world of mozilla ,)
[12:31] <asac> 12:21 < sebner> asac: GRR, yesterday firefox 3.6.3 got released.
[12:31] <asac> probably a firedrill
[12:31] <asac> so we shouldnt push .2 to stable channels
[12:31] <asac> chrisccoulson: ^^
[12:31] <chrisccoulson> ok, i can do that today. i was planning to do an upload today anyway, because the font-rendering is targetted for beta-2
[12:31] <asac> chrisccoulson: thought that was up already?
[12:32] <chrisccoulson> asac - not yet, the upload yesterday was what was already tagged in the branch
[12:32] <asac> ah ok
[12:32] <asac> yeah ... just skip it and make .3
[12:32] <asac> and upload with both changelog entries in changes
[12:32] <chrisccoulson> slangasek says the cut-off for beta-2 is today really
[12:32] <chrisccoulson> so, i'll get that done
[12:32] <asac> yes
[12:32] <asac> yes
[12:33] <asac> chrisccoulson: we should fix ubufox ... one second i think thats commited in upstream branch
[12:33] <asac> (search engine being amazon on non en-US)
[12:33] <sebner> asac: 1 april releases are bad but it seems to fix a grave security issue
[12:35] <asac> chrisccoulson: do you know the bug id for search order?=
[12:36] <asac> got it ... its bug 526411
[12:36] <chrisccoulson> heh, yeah, i was waiting for lp to speed up a bit
[12:38] <fta> BUGabundo, did you file a bug for the ugly fonts in ch?
[12:39] <sebner> Why do I have the feeling that chrisccoulson is taking over the mighty mozilla monkey title from asac? :P
[12:39] <asac> chrisccoulson: ok i released 0.9rc1 ubufox upstream
[12:39] <asac> we should upload that
[12:39] <asac> it just has a few bug fixes
[12:39] <asac> i can do that if you want
[12:39] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, thanks. i dont mind uploading that
[12:39] <BUGabundo> fta: I haven't had a prob with them
[12:39] <asac> we still have some bugs left for after beta ;)
[12:39] <asac> chrisccoulson: you want to do the merge to packaging branch etc.?
[12:39] <fta> BUGabundo: my fixed font is not longer fixed
[12:39] <chrisccoulson> yeah, can do
[12:40] <asac> chrisccoulson: i think you cherry picked a patch that needs to get dropped with this
[12:40] <asac> chrisccoulson: cool. tag is 0.9rc1
[12:40] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[12:40] <asac> chrisccoulson: i think the ubuntu branch has .bzr-builddeb/default.conf ... and you need to bump the tag there during the bzr merge
[12:40] <BUGabundo> fta: I don't understand
[12:41] <asac> chrisccoulson: hmm ubuntu2 was never ocmmitted to ubufox.ubuntu it seems
[12:41] <asac> chrisccoulson: let me do that ;)... thats the least i can do for you ...
[12:42] <chrisccoulson> asac - ubuntu2 was committed to lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubufox/ubuntu
[12:42] <chrisccoulson> is that not the right branch?
[12:42] <asac> chrisccoulson: odd
[12:42] <asac> one second ... maybe i unbound my branch ;)
[12:43] <asac> seems so
[12:43] <asac> alright ... pulling
[12:44] <chrisccoulson> asac - one of the security updates fails to build on hppa: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42831066/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-hppa.xulrunner-1.9_1.9.0.19%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[12:45] <chrisccoulson> :-/
[12:49] <asac> chrisccoulson: that might not be a regression ... did the previous one work there?
[12:50] <chrisccoulson> asac - hmm, the last security update ftbfs on hppa too
[12:51] <chrisccoulson> so it's not a regression in this update
[12:51] <asac> chrisccoulson: can you quick verify http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/ubufox_0.9~rc1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[12:51] <asac> for the searchorder?
[12:51] <asac> thanks
[12:51] <asac> chrisccoulson: yeah. then we dont care for hardy hppa
[12:51] <asac> we might want to fix it at some point if we have time :)
[12:51] <chrisccoulson> ok, thats good then, i won't block on that
[12:51] <asac> yep
[12:52] <chrisccoulson> i'm still waiting for the builders to catch up with all the xulrunner uploads yesterday :/
[12:52] <asac> chrisccoulson: try ubufox ;)
[12:52] <asac> in the meantime :)
[12:52] <chrisccoulson> yeah, just doing that now
[12:52] <asac> chrisccoulson: hmm. someone should bump prio on those
[12:53] <asac> let me get ncommander do that
[12:53] <chrisccoulson> asac - i got pitti to bump the priority on nss yesterday
[12:53] <asac> if he is there
[12:53] <asac> yes, but pitti is not here today :)
[12:53] <asac> chrisccoulson: do you have urls for the builds that need to be bupmed?
[12:54] <chrisccoulson> asac - these are the outstanding ones: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa/+builds
[12:55] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, ubufox seems to work (just tested in french)
[12:55] <asac> cool
[12:55] <asac> uploading
[12:55] <chrisccoulson> let me just delete my profile just to make sure
[12:57] <chrisccoulson> ok, thats fine from a fresh profile too
[12:57] <asac> cool
[12:57] <asac> thanks for checking
[13:00] <chrisccoulson> heh, i was just about to say "what happened to the amd64 builds of firefox", before i realised that i am actually running the latest version already :-/
[13:31] <asac> heh
[13:31] <asac> 14:30 < StevenK> asac: Sorting it out, I've asked Hobbsee to bump them
[13:31] <asac> chrisccoulson: ^^
[13:33] <sebner> asac: Hobbsee is still alive? Haven't seen her for ages
[13:40] <fta> BUGa_vacations, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/fixed-fonts.png
[13:41] <BUGa_vacations> fta: FF looks better
[13:41] <fta> indeed
[13:41] <fta> it changed (regressed) in ch a few days ago
[13:42] <BUGa_vacations> looks nicer on my side
[13:47] <fta> it's a fresh install of lucid
[13:48] <fta> no font tweak at all
[13:48] <BUGa_vacations> ill start a guest session and compare
[13:48] <BUGa_vacations> brb
[13:49] <BUGa_vacations> I keep forgeting chromium won't start on a new session
[13:49] <BUGa_vacations> if open else where :(
[13:50] <BUGa_vacations> I wish that would work OFTB
[13:53] <BUGa_vacations> fta: can't start chromium in guest session
[13:53] <BUGa_vacations> something about not able to move PID
[14:00] <fta> sandbox issue?
[14:00] <fta> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=34660
[14:09] <BUGa_vacations> fta: subbed
[14:13] <fta> BUGa_vacations, do you have the ms fonts installed?
[14:13] <BUGa_vacations> probsbly
[14:20] <fta> BUGa_vacations, ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[14:21] <BUGa_vacations>   Installed: 3.2
[14:22] <BUGa_vacations> guys, rant or serious thread http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/why-i-might-switch-to-mac-from-ubuntu/  ?
[14:27] <chrisccoulson> asac - thanks. hopefully they will build a bit quicker now :)
[16:11] <fta> http://www.osnews.com/story/23097/Quake_II_Ported_to_HTML5
[16:11] <BUGa_vacations> I read it
[16:11] <BUGa_vacations> though it was one more April fools joke
[16:22] <fta> i'm not sure WebGL is part of html5 though
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> asac - is it ok for me to apply the xulrunner patch bz467738_att351145_lockPref_everywhere.patch to firefox? TeTeT has been asking for that
[16:31] <dutchie> Hi, I'm looking at fixing bug 541951 by applying the supplied patch, but I'm not sure how to deal with the .tar.bz file in lp:ubuntu/firefox. Could anybody point me in the right direction? (just asked in #ubuntu-motu)
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> dutchie - there's no need to do anything with that, as i'm already looking at some firefox updates
[16:32] <dutchie> the bug?
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> yes
[16:32] <dutchie> oh, ok
[16:32] <micahg> chrisccoulson: could that have been fixed with the patch I added last night for persistent settings?
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> micahg - one second, i will check
[16:32] <dutchie> for future reference, how would I deal with the tarball?
[16:33] <micahg> dutchie: the mozilla team has special procedures for updates
[16:33] <dutchie> does that translate into "leave mozilla bugs alone"?
[16:34] <micahg> dutchie: not necessarily
[16:34] <micahg> dutchie: the patch system takes care of the tarball, but updates don't get pushed until they land in our bzr branches
[16:35] <micahg> dutchie: you can still propose a diff, but you would subscribe the mozilla team instead of sponsors to get it included
[16:36] <dutchie> ok
[16:37] <dutchie> well, thanks
[16:39] <micahg> chrisccoulson: also, that patch might be out of date as the bug was marked a dupe
[16:39] <micahg> chrisccoulson: do you know who this josh holland is?
[16:40] <chrisccoulson> micahg - dutchie ;)
[16:40] <micahg> ah
[16:40] <chrisccoulson> micahg - we currently apply this  patch to xul192, so it should work ok with ff36 too
[16:41] <micahg> chrisccoulson: right, but it seems that there might have been a change to the patch upstream, but idk about that
[16:41] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I didn't mean to scare him off
[16:41] <chrisccoulson> ok, i will have a look at that
[16:41] <chrisccoulson> heh
[16:42] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should I reassign to  you?
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, feel free
[17:36] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should I push nspr to firefox-stable PPA also?
[18:14] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, feel free to do that
[18:38] <fta> rickspencer3, fyi,"[ubuntu/lucid] chromium-browser 5.0.342.7~r42476-0ubuntu1 (Waiting for approval)" since yesterday, but no idea where it is now, the link in the email is broken
[18:38] <fta> and it's not listed there: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/chromium-browser/
[18:39] <fta> (that's the version fixing your ssl issue)
[18:39] <rickspencer3> thanks fta
[18:58] <LLStarks> grrr. text input in 3.7 is so ****ed right now.
[18:58] <LLStarks> you have click outside the text box to activate it.
[20:05] <LLStarks> micahg, are forms and text boxes kaput in 3.7?
[20:05] <micahg> LLStarks: what do you mean?
[20:05] <LLStarks> i can't type in them unless i click another first
[20:41] <micahg> sorry LLStarks, busy right now, ping me over the weekend and I'll try to reproduce
[20:41] <LLStarks> okay
[20:46] <fta> wfm
[22:01] <micahg> asac: do I need to worry about in source NSS/NSPR for thunderbird stable?
[22:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: are firefox and thunderbird getting pushed today?
[22:06] <chrisccoulson> micahg - firefox will be. thunderbird is ready too?
[22:06] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I left it open for you, just needs to be tagged for release
[22:07] <chrisccoulson> micahg - ok, will do that later
[22:07] <micahg> chrisccoulson: thanks
[22:08] <micahg> chrisccoulson: edbrowse is ready as well with a diff on bug 553052 if you have time
[22:09] <chrisccoulson> micahg - thanks, i'll do some sponsoring tonight then
[22:09] <chrisccoulson> i'm still not sure whether to apply the updated patch to fix bug 541951 or not :-/
[22:09] <micahg> chrisccoulson: k, I might have one more, but that depends how much time I have
[22:10] <micahg> chrisccoulson: asac never gave you an answer?
[22:10] <chrisccoulson> micahg - not yet, but i think he is travelling today
[22:10] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ah, ok
[22:10] <micahg> chrisccoulson: well, if it's not release critical, we can push later, right?
[22:10] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that's true
[22:11] <micahg> chrisccoulson: we can do at least one more upload before final freeze
[22:12] <micahg> chrisccoulson: is xulrunner itself seeded?
[22:12] <micahg> I mean shipped on the CD?
[22:14] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, xulrunner is pulled in by yelp and couchdb
[22:17] <chrisccoulson> micahg - you can check the germinate output for seeing what stuff is seeded, and also why:
[22:17] <chrisccoulson> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.lucid/rdepends/xulrunner-1.9.2/xulrunner-1.9.2
[22:29] <chrisccoulson> wtf? - https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa/+build/1596874
[22:30] <micahg> chrisccoulson: looksl like someone overrode the buildd
[22:30] <chrisccoulson> wtf x 2 - https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa/+build/1597111
[22:30] <chrisccoulson> that's a weird build failure too :-/
[22:31] <micahg> idk on that one
[22:31] <fta> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42879942/cyFmB4YYd2Cu5Qq1Gn29OP0jDjT.txt
[22:32] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should we push the xulrunner security update for beta 2?
[22:32] <chrisccoulson> fta - where did you find that?
[22:32] <fta> from your upload logs
[22:33] <chrisccoulson> micahg - we could try, but i can't upload that for lucid
[22:33] <fta> Original error: QueryCanceledError('canceling statement due to user request\n',)
[22:33] <fta>  -> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42879942/cyFmB4YYd2Cu5Qq1Gn29OP0jDjT.txt (Statement: 'SELECT Build.archive, Build.buildduration, Build.builder, Build.buildlog, Build.buildstate, Build.date_first_dispatched, Build.datebuilt,
[22:34] <fta> 'Rejection during accept' lol
[22:34] <chrisccoulson> hmmmm :-/
[22:36] <chrisccoulson> fta - i know that an archive admin rescored that build earlier so that it got built earlier, but i'm not sure why that would mess it up
[22:37] <fta> sorry, no idea about lp's internals
[22:38] <chrisccoulson> fta - me neither ;)
[22:40] <BUGa_vacations> Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B334b Safari/531.21.10
[22:43] <chrisccoulson> huh?
[22:46] <BUGa_vacations> chrisccoulson: ipad user agent
[22:47] <BUGa_vacations> you can fake on gmail and see the special page they made for ipad
[22:47] <BUGa_vacations> I don't get it
[22:47] <BUGa_vacations> apple and google keep fighting
[22:47] <BUGa_vacations> still google makes special pages for them
[22:47] <BUGa_vacations> and ipad will even bring several google apps
[23:17] <BUGa_vacations> oooopppssssss
[23:17] <BUGa_vacations> fta: seems we will need to be ready to tell users that FF won't play youtube html5 codecs
[23:18] <BUGa_vacations> just had to explain that to a power users
[23:18] <BUGa_vacations> *user
[23:34] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=  :(