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elkymneptok, maco: so let me get this right; he came in with arrogance and belligerence, denied any fault of his doing, attempted to absolve himself of responsibility defined in the guidelines and expected the ban to be removed?01:27
macoelky: yep01:27
macoelky: you also missed ikonia and Tm_T in your highlight ;-)01:27
macoTm_T took over from ikonia then as he was getting too annoyed to deal, mneptok took over01:28
elkyTm_T, bid farewell for the night, and ikonia is in a neighbouring timezone01:28
macoah01:28
elkyi knew you were awake, and guessed mneptok may also be01:29
mneptokelky: you guessed right01:31
mneptokelky: there was obviously no getting through to him, so i deflected the convo until such time he may (or may well not) be more reasonable.01:32
elkyIn the end, the ban wasn't even for sexist crap. It was for being a baiting little brat.01:54
ubotturyaxnb called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()02:16
* maco annoyed by lallenlowe in #ubuntu03:09
elkyoh ick. asustek is in -proxy-users05:11
bazhanguggggh05:11
elkyi'll let you play with him05:14
elkyand that sofa_repo person just tried to tell -women to wear burkas and rabbited on about american pigs and infidels05:15
bazhangyeah he was removed and (auto-banned by bots) for abuse in #ubuntu05:16
elkyi can't imagine why05:35
macohaha05:35
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Guest61007)06:01
winXPuser Guest61007 flooding at #ubuntu06:02
mneptokmmmm .... infidel pig *droooool*06:03
winXPuserwhere are the docs for these network? what is the +j mode?06:22
winXPuser*this06:22
mneptoklimits /joins06:23
winXPuserok and where are the docs for this network?06:23
elky!freenode06:24
ubottufreenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml. Freenode has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at http://freenode.net/policy.shtml. The ubuntu channels on Freenode also have their own !guidelines06:24
mneptokyou might want to ask in #freenode06:24
winXPuserok06:24
Tm_Tgood morning everyone08:36
rwwHello. !currentissues should probably be updated to reflect that a final decision got made on window button placement. (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/532633/comments/564 )09:40
ubottuUbuntu bug 532633 in metacity "[Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment" [Undecided,Invalid]09:40
rwwand perhaps moved to something more permanent, like !buttonplacement or something09:42
elkybacta is back in -women. oh... yay.09:44
Tm_Telky: beat me to it09:44
Tm_Tit has been nice and pleasant for some weeks...09:45
elkyyeah, byebye conversations09:45
rwwelky: When it rains, it pours.09:46
Tm_Tbut hey, we have now procedure to handle this kind of cases09:46
Tm_Tnot saying it would work as we wanted, but09:46
elkythis cleaverroot guy is just clueless, bacta is a full on asswipe09:46
ubottuIn ubottu, rww said: !forget controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam <alias> control09:50
Tm_Tactually that entrance tells a lot09:52
ubottuIn ubottu, rww said: !controls is <reply> In Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more information, please see http://alturl.com/b6ja . To move them back to the right-hand side, see http://alturl.com/x5d609:52
Davieyelky: You may not like a user, but calling someone a "full on asswipe" really isn't appropriate for here.09:52
rwwand if you applied that, you'd want to !forget controls-#ubuntu+1 and controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam09:52
Tm_Twho can update +1 channel topic?09:53
Tm_TI think it should be "Official *Ubuntu Lucid Lynx support/discussion" or similar to make clear Kubuntu and Xubuntu etc are supported there too09:54
elkyDaviey,  if it were not for the fact that he took months of my mentoring and wiped his rear with it by returning to his former troll self, i might agree with you; but wiping months of my mentoring with his rear is precisely what he did.09:57
Davieyelky: that may be your opinion, but can you not see it's inappropriate for an op to call a user (banned or not) that, in a publically logged operator channel?09:58
elkyDaviey, in this particular instance, no.09:59
elkyDaviey, you really don't understand the situation, or the number of people he has effectively wiped with his rear.09:59
jussi01elky: I think Daviey is correct here. we need to be more accountable than normal users - we are held to a higher standard. Bacta is a troll, and a chronically bad one. But using vulgar words we tell others not to, is not really useful.10:00
Davieyelky: Okay, i'm going to add clarrification for this to the irc council agenda.  I really don't feel it's suitable.10:00
elkyjussi01, fine, enjoy your IRCC meeting about an op saying a non-cuss perjorative about a chronicly bad user who wasted months of said ops life.10:01
elkyconsidering the things that you all happily sit by and let mneptok say, srsly, this is ridiculous.10:02
mneptok*ahem*10:03
elkyyou say vile things.10:03
mneptokabout users?10:03
mneptokname-calling?10:03
elky"troll" is a name.10:03
mneptokfeel free to place me on /ignore if it upsets you.10:04
Tm_T...10:05
jussi01mneptok: that laast sentence wasnt appropriate.10:05
mneptokthen accept my apologies.10:05
ubottuFloodBotK1 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Ahmed\)10:11
jussi01oohh... Maverick Meerkat10:14
Tm_T<310:15
mneptoki was hoping for Mighty Mneptok10:15
Tm_Tmneptok: I voted for it but they didn't listen10:16
mneptokTm_T: i wuvv you, too :)10:16
mneptokkiitos10:16
* elky watches twitter.10:20
elkyit took the whole of 9 minutes for someone to mention an inappropriate release name :(10:34
topylifor the record, i don't think we can speak ill about users on this channel, whoever they are. i've probably done that at some time myself, but it's not correct10:42
BactaHello I've got a couple of bans I would like dealt with10:42
BactaHalf I cannot remember about10:43
topyliBacta, i'm not sure if someone is willing to lift your bans, but give it a shot and see10:46
Bactatopyli: Why not you? You seem competent10:47
elkyYou seem to be confusing "ability" with "willingness"10:47
topylii'm unwilling, sorry. i won't unban you on ubuntu channels10:47
Bactatopyli: That's your call but in my mind all of this has become ridiculous beyond belief. I don't even know what I got the bans for.10:49
BactaI don't use IRC very often these days but if I keep coming back and having these "problems" I'll just have to find ways of getting around them10:50
topylii agree, it is ridiculous10:50
elky!staff | bacta is going to ban evade10:50
ubottubacta is going to ban evade: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)10:50
BactaBecause I don't give a shit about the politics of this place, I just want to help/contribute information10:50
topyliBacta, the "politics of this place" is what your presence on ubuntu channels depends on10:52
topylisince you don't care about it, you might as well part the channel10:52
BactaYeah well you can all get along with it like little girls ... Because at the end of the day people like you mean nothing in the grand scheme of things10:53
BactaI'm a lefty who loves bureaucrats yet you have all managed to piss me off10:53
elkytopyli, thanks.10:55
topylihard to please, this guy10:57
elkythe threat of evasion is probably enough to re-earn the kline that seems to have expired, so hopefully we wont be having this discussion for another while11:00
elkyunless he starts godwinning lorez again, in which case it'll be a very long while11:01
topyliyeah thanks for notifying staff11:03
elkyyou know someone's a troll when #defocus greets them as one.11:05
elkyor, you know, when they introduce themselves as one.11:05
topyliheh11:05
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Nick16377)13:31
bazhangshakethatass family friendly?13:49
bazhangah its the flooder from earlier13:50
elkyThen your answer is: no.13:51
bazhangrequested he change it in PM13:52
bazhangumakant ?16:20
bazhangyep its him16:24
ubottuIdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (snow_ru)20:19
guntberthi, ubottu is acting strange for me: she refuses !list but answers to !lista20:51
guntberthi Myrtti: do you happen to know whats the matter with ubottu's database? see ^^20:59
MyrttiI don't have backlog, sorry20:59
tsimpsonguntbert: !lista is an alias for !list, so if !lista was used shortly before !list it will not repeat20:59
guntberttsimpson: I know that - but I tried just now in a query - even after several minutes she answers nothing to !list, but immediately afterwards correctly to !lista21:01
tsimpsonah, in /msg it's a little odd21:01
tsimpson"list" is a command, and the bot ignores all commands from unknown users21:01
tsimpsonit works if you include the !21:02
guntberttsimpson: ok  - I see it now - sorry to bother you - have a nice time :-)21:02
tsimpsonno problem :)21:02
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from karan)21:48
ubottublakkheim called the ops in #ubuntu ()23:37
* mneptok is watching23:42

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