[01:27] <elky> mneptok, maco: so let me get this right; he came in with arrogance and belligerence, denied any fault of his doing, attempted to absolve himself of responsibility defined in the guidelines and expected the ban to be removed?
[01:27] <maco> elky: yep
[01:27] <maco> elky: you also missed ikonia and Tm_T in your highlight ;-)
[01:28] <maco> Tm_T took over from ikonia then as he was getting too annoyed to deal, mneptok took over
[01:28] <elky> Tm_T, bid farewell for the night, and ikonia is in a neighbouring timezone
[01:28] <maco> ah
[01:29] <elky> i knew you were awake, and guessed mneptok may also be
[01:31] <mneptok> elky: you guessed right
[01:32] <mneptok> elky: there was obviously no getting through to him, so i deflected the convo until such time he may (or may well not) be more reasonable.
[01:54] <elky> In the end, the ban wasn't even for sexist crap. It was for being a baiting little brat.
[02:16] <ubottu> ryaxnb called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()
[03:09]  * maco annoyed by lallenlowe in #ubuntu
[05:11] <elky> oh ick. asustek is in -proxy-users
[05:11] <bazhang> uggggh
[05:14] <elky> i'll let you play with him
[05:15] <elky> and that sofa_repo person just tried to tell -women to wear burkas and rabbited on about american pigs and infidels
[05:16] <bazhang> yeah he was removed and (auto-banned by bots) for abuse in #ubuntu
[05:35] <elky> i can't imagine why
[05:35] <maco> haha
[06:01] <ubottu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Guest61007)
[06:02] <winXPuser>  Guest61007 flooding at #ubuntu
[06:03] <mneptok> mmmm .... infidel pig *droooool*
[06:22] <winXPuser> where are the docs for these network? what is the +j mode?
[06:22] <winXPuser> *this
[06:23] <mneptok> limits /joins
[06:23] <winXPuser> ok and where are the docs for this network?
[06:24] <elky> !freenode
[06:24] <ubottu> freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml. Freenode has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at http://freenode.net/policy.shtml. The ubuntu channels on Freenode also have their own !guidelines
[06:24] <mneptok> you might want to ask in #freenode
[06:24] <winXPuser> ok
[08:36] <Tm_T> good morning everyone
[09:40] <rww> Hello. !currentissues should probably be updated to reflect that a final decision got made on window button placement. (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/532633/comments/564 )
[09:40] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 532633 in metacity "[Master] Window Control buttons: position/order/alignment" [Undecided,Invalid]
[09:42] <rww> and perhaps moved to something more permanent, like !buttonplacement or something
[09:44] <elky> bacta is back in -women. oh... yay.
[09:44] <Tm_T> elky: beat me to it
[09:45] <Tm_T> it has been nice and pleasant for some weeks...
[09:45] <elky> yeah, byebye conversations
[09:46] <rww> elky: When it rains, it pours.
[09:46] <Tm_T> but hey, we have now procedure to handle this kind of cases
[09:46] <Tm_T> not saying it would work as we wanted, but
[09:46] <elky> this cleaverroot guy is just clueless, bacta is a full on asswipe
[09:50] <ubottu> In ubottu, rww said: !forget controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam <alias> control
[09:52] <Tm_T> actually that entrance tells a lot
[09:52] <ubottu> In ubottu, rww said: !controls is <reply> In Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more information, please see http://alturl.com/b6ja . To move them back to the right-hand side, see http://alturl.com/x5d6
[09:52] <Daviey> elky: You may not like a user, but calling someone a "full on asswipe" really isn't appropriate for here.
[09:52] <rww> and if you applied that, you'd want to !forget controls-#ubuntu+1 and controls-#ubuntu-mozillateam
[09:53] <Tm_T> who can update +1 channel topic?
[09:54] <Tm_T> I think it should be "Official *Ubuntu Lucid Lynx support/discussion" or similar to make clear Kubuntu and Xubuntu etc are supported there too
[09:57] <elky> Daviey,  if it were not for the fact that he took months of my mentoring and wiped his rear with it by returning to his former troll self, i might agree with you; but wiping months of my mentoring with his rear is precisely what he did.
[09:58] <Daviey> elky: that may be your opinion, but can you not see it's inappropriate for an op to call a user (banned or not) that, in a publically logged operator channel?
[09:59] <elky> Daviey, in this particular instance, no.
[09:59] <elky> Daviey, you really don't understand the situation, or the number of people he has effectively wiped with his rear.
[10:00] <jussi01> elky: I think Daviey is correct here. we need to be more accountable than normal users - we are held to a higher standard. Bacta is a troll, and a chronically bad one. But using vulgar words we tell others not to, is not really useful.
[10:00] <Daviey> elky: Okay, i'm going to add clarrification for this to the irc council agenda.  I really don't feel it's suitable.
[10:01] <elky> jussi01, fine, enjoy your IRCC meeting about an op saying a non-cuss perjorative about a chronicly bad user who wasted months of said ops life.
[10:02] <elky> considering the things that you all happily sit by and let mneptok say, srsly, this is ridiculous.
[10:03] <mneptok> *ahem*
[10:03] <elky> you say vile things.
[10:03] <mneptok> about users?
[10:03] <mneptok> name-calling?
[10:03] <elky> "troll" is a name.
[10:04] <mneptok> feel free to place me on /ignore if it upsets you.
[10:05] <Tm_T> ...
[10:05] <jussi01> mneptok: that laast sentence wasnt appropriate.
[10:05] <mneptok> then accept my apologies.
[10:11] <ubottu> FloodBotK1 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Ahmed\)
[10:14] <jussi01> oohh... Maverick Meerkat
[10:15] <Tm_T> <3
[10:15] <mneptok> i was hoping for Mighty Mneptok
[10:16] <Tm_T> mneptok: I voted for it but they didn't listen
[10:16] <mneptok> Tm_T: i wuvv you, too :)
[10:16] <mneptok> kiitos
[10:20]  * elky watches twitter.
[10:34] <elky> it took the whole of 9 minutes for someone to mention an inappropriate release name :(
[10:42] <topyli> for the record, i don't think we can speak ill about users on this channel, whoever they are. i've probably done that at some time myself, but it's not correct
[10:42] <Bacta> Hello I've got a couple of bans I would like dealt with
[10:43] <Bacta> Half I cannot remember about
[10:46] <topyli> Bacta, i'm not sure if someone is willing to lift your bans, but give it a shot and see
[10:47] <Bacta> topyli: Why not you? You seem competent
[10:47] <elky> You seem to be confusing "ability" with "willingness"
[10:47] <topyli> i'm unwilling, sorry. i won't unban you on ubuntu channels
[10:49] <Bacta> topyli: That's your call but in my mind all of this has become ridiculous beyond belief. I don't even know what I got the bans for.
[10:50] <Bacta> I don't use IRC very often these days but if I keep coming back and having these "problems" I'll just have to find ways of getting around them
[10:50] <topyli> i agree, it is ridiculous
[10:50] <elky> !staff | bacta is going to ban evade
[10:50] <ubottu> bacta is going to ban evade: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)
[10:50] <Bacta> Because I don't give a shit about the politics of this place, I just want to help/contribute information
[10:52] <topyli> Bacta, the "politics of this place" is what your presence on ubuntu channels depends on
[10:52] <topyli> since you don't care about it, you might as well part the channel
[10:53] <Bacta> Yeah well you can all get along with it like little girls ... Because at the end of the day people like you mean nothing in the grand scheme of things
[10:53] <Bacta> I'm a lefty who loves bureaucrats yet you have all managed to piss me off
[10:55] <elky> topyli, thanks.
[10:57] <topyli> hard to please, this guy
[11:00] <elky> the threat of evasion is probably enough to re-earn the kline that seems to have expired, so hopefully we wont be having this discussion for another while
[11:01] <elky> unless he starts godwinning lorez again, in which case it'll be a very long while
[11:03] <topyli> yeah thanks for notifying staff
[11:05] <elky> you know someone's a troll when #defocus greets them as one.
[11:05] <elky> or, you know, when they introduce themselves as one.
[11:05] <topyli> heh
[13:31] <ubottu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Nick16377)
[13:49] <bazhang> shakethatass family friendly?
[13:50] <bazhang> ah its the flooder from earlier
[13:51] <elky> Then your answer is: no.
[13:52] <bazhang> requested he change it in PM
[16:20] <bazhang> umakant ?
[16:24] <bazhang> yep its him
[20:19] <ubottu> IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (snow_ru)
[20:51] <guntbert> hi, ubottu is acting strange for me: she refuses !list but answers to !lista
[20:59] <guntbert> hi Myrtti: do you happen to know whats the matter with ubottu's database? see ^^
[20:59] <Myrtti> I don't have backlog, sorry
[20:59] <tsimpson> guntbert: !lista is an alias for !list, so if !lista was used shortly before !list it will not repeat
[21:01] <guntbert> tsimpson: I know that - but I tried just now in a query - even after several minutes she answers nothing to !list, but immediately afterwards correctly to !lista
[21:01] <tsimpson> ah, in /msg it's a little odd
[21:01] <tsimpson> "list" is a command, and the bot ignores all commands from unknown users
[21:02] <tsimpson> it works if you include the !
[21:02] <guntbert> tsimpson: ok  - I see it now - sorry to bother you - have a nice time :-)
[21:02] <tsimpson> no problem :)
[21:48] <ubottu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from karan)
[23:37] <ubottu> blakkheim called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[23:42]  * mneptok is watching