[01:59] <AtomicSpark> Is this the correct channel if I have a question about xorg testing thing?
[02:02] <BUG_vacations> yes
[02:04] <AtomicSpark> So the fallback testing failed. Jocky was unable to activate the fglrx driver after I renamed the .ko and rebooted.
[02:04] <AtomicSpark> Should I file a bug against jocky or the driver itself?
[02:04] <AtomicSpark> Error is something like WARNING: /sys/module/fglrx/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind fglrx driver
[02:05] <AtomicSpark> It seems to be failing to figure out that it needs to reinstall it, since the ko "doesnt exist".
[05:34] <NinoScript> Hi! :D
[05:35] <NinoScript> The other day, I updated Lucid, and a udev file in which I loaded an experimental driver for multitouch trackpads, changed and I am not able to load that driver again…
[05:35] <NinoScript> the file is "/lib/udev/rules.d/66-xorg-synaptics.rules", the line I used was: ENV{x11_driver}="multitouch"
[05:35] <NinoScript> how should I load it now?
[06:22] <apparle> guys please help me with this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/475466
[09:59] <bryceh> ha first bugs.fdo goes down, now lp goes down.  guess someone doesn't want me working at 2am tonight ;-)
[10:00] <tseliot> bryceh: they want you alive :-P
[10:02] <bryceh> heh
[10:03] <bryceh> tseliot, btw how's the new -fglrx holding up?
[10:04] <tseliot> bryceh: it makes the xserver segfault with some cards (I've reported the problem upstream)
[10:04] <tseliot> it's easier to install it from Jockey now though
[10:04]  * bryceh nods
[10:07] <bryceh> tseliot, thanks for being pointman on the proprietary drivers, I think I'd go nutty worrying over them this release otherwise
[10:08] <tseliot> bryceh: np, oem will benefit from this too so both teams win this way :-)
[10:09] <bryceh> :-)
[11:49] <AtomicSpark> Finally got around to testing monitor hotpugging for fglrx. It is supported (might want to change additional instructions). However, the driver not supporting KMS is :(. The -ati driver works so nicely with the monitor prefs <3
[11:58] <tjaalton> jcristau: thanks, but it would still get in the queue so i thought there was no hurry. I'll ask for it if it's not public in a few days
[11:59]  * AtomicSpark switched back to -ati after testings
[11:59] <AtomicSpark> I never appreciated KMS so much :(
[15:53] <penguin42> anyone else having input problems today on xorg-edgers?
[17:34] <Sarvatt> penguin42: can ya describe your problem a bit more?
[17:34] <Sarvatt> i'm not
[17:36] <penguin42> Sarvatt: As of todays update I get no input at all; no keybopard or mouse
[17:37] <penguin42> Sarvatt: If I create an xorg.conf with an AutoAddDevices "false" I get the mouse back
[17:38] <penguin42> Sarvatt: http://www.treblig.org/debug/Xorg.0.log.brokeninput  is the xorg.0.log with the bad input - note there are no lines with Adding input devices
[17:39] <jcristau> sounds like you need to update your drivers
[17:40] <penguin42> which drivers?
[17:40] <jcristau> input
[17:41] <penguin42> I did file this bug: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27424  which also shows I have some nasty mapping problems after forcing a keyboard in as well
[17:43] <penguin42> jcristau: From a package point of view the only outstanding upgrade seems to be xserver-xorg-input-evtouch
[17:45] <penguin42> note there was someone else commenting on that bug who had the same mapping problem on latest X, but he was on Gentoo
[17:52] <penguin42> any thoughts?
[18:03] <Sarvatt> penguin42: read the note at the top of the xorg-edgers ppa page :) you've had an old xserver for 3 months now, i'm surprised it worked this long
[18:07] <penguin42> Sarvatt: hmm - I wonder when that changed! Which particular note are you referring to - the one about xserver master being reverted?
[18:07] <Sarvatt> december!
[18:07] <Sarvatt> yeah
[18:07] <Sarvatt> i couldn't keep up rebuilding the world for all the weekly abi bumps back then
[18:09] <penguin42> Sarvatt: So what version should edgers have on lucid - I currently have 2:1.7.99.2~git20091220.0cb638dc-0ubuntu0tormod
[18:09] <penguin42> or xserver-common
[18:09] <penguin42> of
[18:09] <Sarvatt> just dpkg -l | grep 1.7.99.2 and for each of those packages add /lucid to the name and and do a sudo apt-get install package1/lucid package2/lucid
[18:10] <Sarvatt> or just sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers and reactivate it again after if you're lazy :)
[18:11] <penguin42> Sarvatt: Yeh!
[18:11] <penguin42> Sarvatt: Thank you!
[18:12] <penguin42> Sarvatt: I enabled xorg-edgers probably early December so probably only just before that message went in
[18:13] <penguin42> There's something glorious about being able to use up arrow again
[18:15] <penguin42> Sarvatt: So do you think I should just close that fdo bug - although the other guy was on a completely diffferent distro with the same keyboard symptoms - so something must be shared somewhere
[18:15] <penguin42> sorry, same mapping symptoms
[18:20] <Sarvatt> yeah for sure
[18:20] <penguin42> ok
[19:25] <bryceh> wow, looks like they upgraded the bugzilla at fdo
[19:46] <jcristau> http://www.freedesktop.org/admin/blog/2010-04-02-bugzilla_upgraded.html
[19:53] <bryceh> jcristau, seems to have some extra lp->bz functionality
[19:53] <bryceh> or at least bz->lp
[20:52] <Sarvatt> bryceh: http://www.gnomejournal.org/article/96/canonical-upgrading-gnome-bugzilla-and-commercial-sponsorship
[20:55] <bryceh> Sarvatt, thanks
[20:55] <bryceh> still trying to nut out what the changes enable for us
[20:56] <bryceh> I've seen comments getting imported from fdo on one bug so far
[21:19] <Sarvatt> ok so radeons with 32MB or less dont get a pretty splash, something to keep in mind if people bring it up :)
[21:21] <Sarvatt> bryceh: jbarnes has a juicy xserver patch for the clutter problem
[21:24] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26394
[21:24] <Sarvatt> haven't tested yet but DBO is
[21:25] <bryceh> Sarvatt, got a reference on the 32MB limit?
[21:25] <bryceh> Sarvatt, we should add that to X/Drivers
[21:32] <Sebboh> hey quick question regarding desktop sharing.  Here's my use case.. I'd like to use my desktop all day, then sometimes hop on the laptop and continue my session--like when I want to keep working during a smoke break on the front porch.
[21:33] <Sebboh> VNC can do this, sure.  I like neatx.  Is there a way I can achieve that slick NX performance and still use remote desktop in the way I want?
[21:34] <Sebboh> (I've got neatx working fine, it's just that the remote session and the local session are completely separate--I'm logged in twice, but I want to be logged in only once.)
[21:44] <Sarvatt> bryceh: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=47381156a8f0d793bacfa346cc4cc515399525f7
[21:44] <Sarvatt> yay one confirmation https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=34628 fixes the clutter crashes
[21:46] <Sarvatt> bryceh: also https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/554143
[21:51] <bryceh> Sebboh, not really the right channel for that question
[22:13] <Sarvatt> hmm, apport isn't catching xserver segfaults for me
[22:14] <Sebboh> Sarvatt, there's that "ignore" checkbox.  Could it be checked?
[23:01] <edt> Sarvatt you found an old package for penguin42 that was causing him x keyboard mapping issues?  What was it and what files does it contain?  I need to map It into gentoo space to check If I have the same problem here.  TIA
[23:31] <skimj> Sarvatt: I see that you uploaded an xorg-server package to the edgers ppa. I can't seem to get it though. I'm running karmic, does that require a separate package specifically for karmic (with the ~karmic tag)?