[01:07] <sobukus> Hey, folks... I am wondering where I should put the flames (eh... helpful bug reports;-) about the ubuntu studio lucid beta
[01:07] <sobukus> I tried an install and am still struggling to get the system working.
[01:08] <sobukus> Hints about how to get USB GSM/3G modem dialup would be appreciated, too (that used to work out of the box with plain ubuntu 9.10)
[01:15]  * sobukus is not sure if this should go to some mailing list, generic launchpad tracker... special tracker...
[01:15] <holstein> hey there sobukus
[01:15] <sobukus> hey
[01:16] <holstein> sounds like your going through it
[01:16] <sobukus> it?
[01:16] <holstein> trouble
[01:16] <holstein> :?
[01:16] <holstein> :/
[01:16] <sobukus> oh, of course
[01:16] <holstein> unfortunaly, im still running karmic
[01:16] <holstein> on my studio box
[01:17] <holstein> I TEND to run a seperate machine
[01:17] <holstein> for the audio produtions
[01:17] <sobukus> well, I wanted to try some "standard" distro on the box, so that there is a remote chance that my band isn't freaked out by me hacking away in scary terminal windows all the time
[01:17] <holstein> OR a shared home set-up
[01:17] <holstein> OR a dual-boot
[01:17] <holstein> lol
[01:17] <holstein> hmm
[01:17] <sobukus> the machine is specifically for that purpose, there in the practice room
[01:18] <holstein> the mailing list is rather active
[01:18] <holstein> for ubuntustudio
[01:18] <sobukus> -devel? -users?
[01:18] <holstein> both
[01:18] <holstein> you can join both AFAIK
[01:18] <sobukus> thing is ... perhaps you can help me there ... is it normal that after an install, I got no network manager?
[01:19] <holstein> OH yeah
[01:19] <holstein> its not in ubuntustudio
[01:19] <sobukus> reason?
[01:19] <holstein> OR it wasnt in karmics studio
[01:19] <holstein> im not positive
[01:19] <holstein> BUT
[01:19]  * sobukus notes that it is on the DVD
[01:19] <holstein> im told NM can cause issues with the RT kernel
[01:20] <holstein> im running it
[01:20] <holstein> i did a vanilla install
[01:20] <sobukus> Hm, so networking is supposed to work using the debian-like /etc/network/interfaces ?
[01:20] <holstein> and added studio meta-packages
[01:20] <holstein> and i havent had any problems yet running NM
[01:20] <holstein> sobukus: AFAIK
[01:20] <holstein> i havent really tried under ubuntustudio
[01:21] <holstein> BUT it should be the same
[01:21] <holstein> and i got a lucid-server install
[01:21] <sobukus> hm, so maybe they left out the PPP stuff in studio, too
[01:21] <holstein> and it seemed to be the same
[01:21] <holstein> sobukus: possible
[01:21] <holstein> i dont think getting ubuntustudio online is a major concern
[01:21] <sobukus> I installed the manager plus provider info using dpkg (synaptic doesnt work properly with the dvd:-/) ... but it doesn't find the modem
[01:22] <holstein> OH
[01:22] <sobukus> while the driver is loaded in the kernel (serial port is created)
[01:22] <holstein> the USB one?
[01:22] <sobukus> yes
[01:22] <sobukus> huawei
[01:22] <holstein> hehe
[01:22] <sobukus> option modile
[01:22] <sobukus> module
[01:22] <holstein> i havent had the opportunity to use one of those yet either
[01:22] <sobukus> perhaps it would magically work when I install ppp packages
[01:22] <holstein> where are you?
[01:22] <sobukus> germany
[01:22] <holstein> you could try a Loco channel
[01:23] <sobukus> ?
[01:23] <sobukus> what's that
[01:23] <holstein> #ubuntu-de
[01:23] <holstein> from...
[01:23] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[01:23] <sobukus> ah
[01:24] <holstein> its your local ubuntu team
[01:24] <sobukus> well, I don't assume that huawei USB modems are special to germany
[01:24] <holstein> easier than trying to get a word in over at #ubuntu
[01:24] <sobukus> but you info on studio cutting away network manager on purpose is already valuable
[01:25] <sobukus> not that I like it for personal use, but my idea was to go to ubuntu on the studio to show off that linux can be "easy"
[01:25] <holstein> lol
[01:25] <holstein> it can
[01:25] <sobukus> just click on flashy buttons, things happen automatically ...
[01:25] <holstein> BUT...
[01:25] <sobukus> so they stop whining to install windows
[01:26]  * sobukus waits for the but
[01:26] <holstein> i still research hardware purchases
[01:26] <holstein> and ask a lot of questions before buying things
[01:26] <Blank__> most people don't
[01:26] <holstein> hey Blank__
[01:26] <Blank__> 'elo
[01:27] <sobukus> the hardware should work... only thing is that ubuntu has annoying behaviour on SCSI systems
[01:27] <sobukus> I need massive rootdelay to make it find the root drive
[01:27] <holstein> Blank__: you know about USB GSM/3G modems?
[01:27] <holstein> dialup?
[01:28] <sobukus> I found that back then when building the studio box and ditched ubuntu as option, went for rather custom, source-based system
[01:28] <holstein> i tried to set up dialup on ubuntu a while back
[01:28] <holstein> and i ran into a hardware set-up issue
[01:28] <holstein> and gave up
[01:28] <sobukus> thing is, on standard ubuntu everything is just there
[01:28] <holstein> !vanilla
[01:29] <holstein> sobukus: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UpgradingFromHardy
[01:29] <sobukus> of course, I don't claim that it's there on lucid, I tried only 9.10 recently
[01:29] <holstein> for the future
[01:30] <holstein> you could try a lucid live CD
[01:30] <sobukus> yeah
[01:30] <holstein> and confirm if its a lucid, or a lucidstudio issue
[01:30] <sobukus> live CD should show if the network stuff at least works
[01:30]  * sobukus notes that it really should be lucid because of nasty old version of ardour2 in 9.10
[01:31] <Blank__> holstein, nope :(
[01:31] <sobukus> yeah, gonna burn a live cd
[01:32] <sobukus> though I still hope to the the current install up to shape... or at least utilize the studio DVD for packages because ... well, 3G uplink is not very thick when you don't have the best connection
[01:33] <sobukus> holstein: and  I'll try to report to the -users list about the issues (I assume the boot manager install is just confused about the SCSI setup ... people don't expect real SCSI nowadays)
[01:33] <holstein> sobukus: good idea
[01:34] <holstein> i think the devs would appreciate that kind of info
[01:35]  * holstein gotta run
[01:35] <holstein> BBL
[01:38] <sobukus> have fun ... and good night
[01:43] <ScottL> sobukus,   this is a more expansive article on upgrading from plain, vanilla ubuntu to ubuntu studio  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[03:39] <Zenker> heay check out my ubuntustudio background, the colors are a lil depressing because of the jpg n all, if u like gimme your email and ure screen rez and ill render one that'll fit your screen perfectly :)
[03:39] <Zenker> http://www.thepicturebin.com/images/Zelozelos/psdubuntu1.jpg
[12:18] <rlameiro> good morning
[13:42] <YAYBREAD> Does this distro have pretty decent apps for beginning guitarists??
[15:27] <holstein> YAYBREAD: you still around?
[15:44] <floating> hello... does anyone here have a problem with ubuntustudio 9.10 and mp3 playback?
[15:46] <holstein> hey there floating
[15:46] <floating> hello
[15:46] <holstein> floating: did you install an mp3 codec?
[15:46] <floating> yeah, it plays
[15:46] <holstein> OH
[15:46] <holstein> just jittery or something?
[15:46] <floating> but after ~20 minutes it hangs
[15:47] <holstein> i was working on some tracks last nite
[15:47] <holstein> i exported wav's from ardour
[15:47] <holstein> using jack
[15:47] <floating> then I restart either rythmbox or audacious it it's back
[15:47] <holstein> everything was great
[15:47] <holstein> and then i converted them to mp3
[15:47] <holstein> shutdown jack
[15:48] <holstein> and tried playing both the mp3's and wav's
[15:48] <holstein> in VLC and other apps
[15:48] <holstein> and the all took a while to get started
[15:48] <holstein> kinda jittery
[15:48] <holstein> pops and clicks
[15:48]  * holstein not really sure why
[15:48] <floating> no, mine starts fine, so not jittery, just halfway through an album it hangs...
[15:49] <holstein> theres a guy in my ubuntuLOCO channel
[15:49] <floating> I'm hoping it's a 9.10 only issue
[15:49] <holstein> hes got the same issue
[15:49] <holstein> hell, i could have it too
[15:49] <floating> yeah I've seen some bug reports online
[15:49] <holstein> ive never played a mp3 for more than a few minutes
[15:49] <floating> ah
[15:50] <holstein> just to hear a track or something
[15:50] <floating> everything else works %100
[15:50] <holstein> hmmm
[15:50] <holstein> is the sound dead at that point?
[15:50] <holstein> do you have to resart the app to get the sound to play again?
[15:51] <holstein> while the audio is hanging, can you make any other sounds?
[15:51] <floating> I have to restart the app
[15:51] <floating> oh
[15:51] <floating> I haven't tried that yet
[15:51] <floating> that's a good point
[15:52] <floating> I'll play with it a little
[15:52] <holstein> i'll ask around too
[15:52] <holstein>  i got a local friend on the kernel team
[15:53] <holstein> he might have some ideas
[15:53] <floating> ok, thanks... I appreciate it
[15:53] <floating> I get the feeling it's a gstreamer issue
[15:53] <floating> but I could be wrong
[15:53] <holstein> makes sense
[15:54] <holstein> is there a fluendo mp3 codec still?
[15:54] <holstein> a free one in the repos?
[15:54] <holstein> you could try that too i suppose
[15:54] <holstein> get rid or ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:54] <holstein> and install the fluendo one
[16:32] <floating> good idea
[16:32] <floating> I'll give that a shot also
[19:13] <PatrickGleason> does anyone here use ubuntu for web design?
[19:25] <PatrickGleason> Does anyone here use ubuntu for web design?
[19:35] <jussi01> PatrickGleason: some. whats your question?
[19:35] <PatrickGleason> just wondering what real peoples workflow is like.
[19:35] <jussi01> Ive used quanta a little.
[19:36] <jussi01> mind, its nowhere near the standard of dreamweaver
[19:36] <jussi01> !code
[19:37] <jussi01> !html
[19:37] <jussi01> there we are...
[19:46] <jussi01> PatrickGleason: youll likely get a better reponse from our mailing list
[19:46] <PatrickGleason> where do I sign up?
[20:05] <ScottL> PatrickGleason,    https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[23:45] <YAYBREAD> holstein you still there?