[00:03] <genii> polek: Ask away
[00:03] <genii> Bah. tab fail
[00:03] <Sysi> gone
[00:36] <Poley> Hello?
[00:37] <Poley> Is anyone here?
[00:37] <Sysi> ohai
[00:37] <Poley> Could you answer some of my questions about Xubuntu?
[00:38] <Sysi> of course
[00:39] <Sysi> you disappeared fast last time :p
[00:39] <Poley> Ok---I want to be able to boot it off a USB drive without altering my hard drive
[00:39] <Poley> I've tried everything
[00:39] <Poley> I can find, but it wont work
[00:41] <Poley> Sometimes, I have been able to get into Xubuntu, but it always crashes and I am unable to boot it off the USB without starting over and reformating the USB drive
[00:42] <Sysi> are you making live-usb or persistant installation?
[00:43] <Poley> I think I have tried both--but what I want is a setup where Xubuntu is booted off the USB drive and all settings/etc. are saved onto the drive so they remain there on future reboots
[00:43] <Sysi> i think you need to have ubuntu and use liveusb-creator for that
[00:44] <Sysi> maybe possible also on other way but i dunno if
[00:44] <Poley> So I first get ubuntu, I assume using a live CD?
[00:45] <Sysi> or just make bootable usb with unetbootin, if your computer supports it
[00:46] <Sysi> and ofc k/x/ubuntu all work
[00:46] <Poley> I actually just tried that--it worked up until I clicked "logout", and to log back on it asked for a username and a password even though I had never set that up, and when I rebooted it started to load up Xubuntu, but then just froze on a blank screen
[00:47] <Sysi> IDK, that maybe isn't supported on livesystem
[00:47] <Sysi> unetbootin-created newertheless don't save settings
[00:48] <Poley> OK--so any suggestions as to how I should continue now?
[00:50] <Sysi> are you using it on just one computer?
[00:51] <Poley> Yes--Windows Vista Ultimate on Dell XPS M1530 laptop
[00:53] <_Techie_> as far as live cd passwords go
[00:53] <_Techie_> for the ubuntu livecd, the user us ubuntu
[00:53] <_Techie_> with no password
[00:53] <Poley> OK-thanks for that
[00:53] <Sysi> you could run install from cd and make it to usb-stick, then select from bios menu to boot win or linux
[00:53] <_Techie_> not completely sure about xubuntu though, load it up and run whoami in terminal
[00:54] <_Techie_> unn
[00:54] <_Techie_> umm*
[00:54] <_Techie_> do you wish this USB to be persistant?
[00:54] <Poley> Yes
[00:54] <_Techie_> i have a link for you then
[00:55] <_Techie_> gotta find it first though
[00:55] <Poley> OK--I am fine waiting for a while
[00:58] <_Techie_> found it
[00:58] <_Techie_> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-xubuntu-9-10-flash-drive-using-windows/
[00:58] <Poley> Thanks--I will try that
[00:58] <Poley> Just one more question thoough
[00:59] <Poley> Will I be able to easily set up my network/internet?
[00:59] <Poley> Or do
[00:59] <Poley> I need special drivers?
[00:59] <_Techie_> if it workse out of the box in the livecd, then it will work out of the box in the USB
[01:00] <Poley> So the internet will already be working?
[01:00] <_Techie_> should be
[01:00] <Poley> Thanks for all the help
[01:00] <_Techie_> no problem
[01:00] <Poley> I will try that now--bye
[01:00] <_Techie_> cya
[01:02] <_Techie_> im gonna restart and re install my DVD drive, be back soon
[01:04] <Poley> Hello again--sorry for bothering you, but what persistence option should I select: 1 GB, 2GB, 3GB, 4GB (all Casper-RW)?
[01:12] <Poley> Oh well--I choose 2GB
[01:12] <Poley> Thanks anyway
[03:06] <tykmo> hi guys need help.
[03:06] <tykmo> any one here
[03:12] <_Techie_> Sysi, my minds gone blank, syntax for installing from a local .deb package using dpkg please
[03:12] <_Techie_> !dpkg
[03:13] <_Techie_> !deb
[04:51] <terroh8er> hey guys.. im having trouble with my ethernet connection. it won't connect and i'm sure its not the router
[04:51] <terroh8er> it is an older PC
[04:52] <bazhang> what does sudo dhclient in terminal return
[04:52] <bazhang> err sudo dhclient eth0
[04:53] <terroh8er> DHCPDISCOVEDR on eth0 to 255.255.255.2555 port 67
[04:53] <terroh8er> multiple times
[04:54] <bazhang> no dhcpoffers?
[04:54] <terroh8er> the odd thing is.. it says there are 168 updates available. how would it know if there were updates if internet wasnt on?
[04:54] <terroh8er> yea no dhcpoffers received
[04:54] <bazhang> what does ifconfig show
[04:55] <bazhang> eth0 lo and wlan0 ?
[04:55] <terroh8er> eth0, eth0:avahi and lo
[04:55] <terroh8er> its an old pc, no wlan
[04:56] <bazhang> and sudo apt-get update ?
[04:56] <terroh8er> failed to fetch
[04:56] <bazhang> also try sudo ifup eth0
[04:56] <terroh8er> ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[04:59] <terroh8er> also its onboard.. i had to enable it in the bios
[05:00] <Kruczyslaw> damn i have lan problems too
[05:00] <Kruczyslaw> but i think i install bad drivers....
[05:00] <bazhang> that should not be an issue, ie onboard
[05:00] <bazhang> terroh8er, what is the chipset
[05:01] <terroh8er> one sec. also i just checked the router settings.. it shows up
[05:01] <terroh8er> asa a dhcp client
[05:02] <bazhang> lspci in terminal
[05:04] <terroh8er> ohh wait a minute
[05:04] <terroh8er> bah
[05:04] <Kruczyslaw> lol...
[05:04] <terroh8er> no.. i set it up manually and it said "connection established" but firefox doesnt load. one sec
[05:06] <Kruczyslaw> bazhang: how to remove driver/ethernet? I have bad drivers...;|
[05:06] <terroh8er> Davicom Semiconductor, Inc 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible, rev 10
[05:06] <bazhang> Kruczyslaw, what chipset
[05:06] <bazhang> terroh8er, I doubt that is it; pastebin the entire output of lspci please
[05:06] <bazhang> !paste
[05:07] <terroh8er> how am i supposed to paste it?
[05:07] <terroh8er> im typing from a laptop
[05:07] <Kruczyslaw> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/407896/
[05:08] <Kruczyslaw> fail -_-
[05:08] <Kruczyslaw> Its asus chipset as I remember....
[05:08] <bazhang> Kruczyslaw, does ifconfig show eth0
[05:11] <Kruczyslaw> yep but I cant modify/use it also cant add new connection ;]
[05:13] <Kruczyslaw> in applet network menager i see "device unsupported"
[05:15] <terroh8er> i think i may have found a fix for my problem
[05:17] <Kruczyslaw> bazhang: heres my ifconfig anyway: http://pastebin.pl/21078
[05:17] <bazhang> terroh8er, dns?
[05:19] <terroh8er> no.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186430
[05:19] <terroh8er> noob question here.. how do i save a file i've modified in nano?
[05:20] <terroh8er> nm lol
[05:20] <Kruczyslaw> ehh
[05:21] <terroh8er> if this fixes it, ill shit myself
[05:22] <terroh8er> and send pieces of my soiled underwear to everyone here
[05:22] <bazhang> language please
[05:22] <terroh8er> sorry
[05:23] <Kruczyslaw> bazhangany any solution for me?
[05:26] <terroh8er> didnt work
[05:34] <terroh8er> i guess offtopic.. but does anyone know of an alternative distro that will fit my needs (playing DivX movies to my tv through the S-video out and playing mp3s.. thats it)
[05:35] <_Techie_> umm
[05:35] <_Techie_> yeah
[05:36] <_Techie_> the main distro that comes to mind is xbmc
[05:36] <_Techie_> there is another media player distro but i cant remember the name of it
[05:36] <_Techie_> oh yeah, its GeeXboX
[05:37] <_Techie_> either one should meet your needs fine
[05:46] <terroh8er> hmmm isnt xbmc a live cd only? i guess it doesnt matter huh
[05:46] <_Techie_> its both a livecd and an application and distro
[05:46] <terroh8er> another problem is that the pc is old.. 750mhz celeron, 256mb of ram
[05:47] <terroh8er> i didn't thin kyou could install it to a hard drive but i may be wrong
[05:47] <_Techie_> youd be suprised what i could do with that
[05:48] <terroh8er> haha
[05:48] <DaSteele> sup?
[05:48] <terroh8er> thanks techie im downloading it now
[05:50] <terroh8er> _Techie_: this might be dumb but can i access the internet via geexbox?
[05:50] <terroh8er> o ok i guess i can :P
[05:50] <matmatmat> yeah?
[05:50] <terroh8er> it looks confusing though
[05:51] <DaSteele> geexbox is new to me
[05:51] <DaSteele> im wanting to build a htpc
[05:52] <DaSteele> boungh an mvix ultio
[05:52] <DaSteele> its not quite ready for prime time
[05:52] <DaSteele> imho :D
[05:52] <terroh8er> i just want to be able to watch divx movies, as well as hulu content on my tv
[05:53] <DaSteele> ic cool
[05:53] <terroh8er> lol
[05:53] <DaSteele> yea I can't get TV out to work
[05:53] <DaSteele> soem xorg bug on this laptop
[05:54] <DaSteele> not even through vga out
[05:54] <DaSteele> unless I go way back to hardy
[05:55] <_Techie_> !xrandr
[05:55] <_Techie_> get used to that
[05:55] <_Techie_> because unfortunately xorg is becoming old
[05:59] <DaSteele> i know I need a newer machine soon
[06:03] <_Techie_> !xorg
[06:10] <DaSteele> thanks ubottu you're a great help
[06:12] <Liquid_Snake> does anyone know if hard drive access time affects download speed?
[06:13] <DaSteele> I assume it can
[06:13] <DaSteele> on a very very fast server
[06:13] <Liquid_Snake> nm
[06:14] <Liquid_Snake> oh talkin to me
[06:14] <Liquid_Snake> DaSteele:  was that directed to me?
[06:14] <_Techie_> it was
[06:14] <DaSteele> yes
[06:14] <Liquid_Snake> I've heard it doesn't
[06:14] <Liquid_Snake> from linux but I dunno
[06:14] <_Techie_> if your downloading slower than your write speed, then no it wont
[06:15] <_Techie_> if your downloading fater than your write speed then it will
[06:15] <DaSteele> good answer :)
[06:15] <Liquid_Snake> DaSteele:  I would image wouldn't it make a difference downloading from a 5400 or a 7200 might make a difference
[06:16] <Liquid_Snake> _Techie_:  thanks, and thanks DaSteele,
[06:16] <_Techie_> no problem, here to help
[06:18] <_Techie_> although, good luck downloading at a faster rate than your hard drives can be written at
[06:18] <DaSteele> :)
[06:20] <_Techie_> anyway, time for me to start dissasembling my computer for this LAN party
[06:22] <DaSteele> in sacramento?
[06:22] <DaSteele> nm
[06:23] <RaMcHiP> hello
[06:24] <eut> hello
[06:24] <RaMcHiP> hwody
[06:24] <RaMcHiP> howdy *
[06:24] <eut> how can i disable the splash screen with the hovering sparkles and the ubuntu logo?
[06:26] <RaMcHiP> im not sure eut
[06:26] <eut> you know what i'm talking about right?
[06:31] <DaSteele> on booting?
[06:31] <eut> yes
[06:32] <DaSteele> use startup manager I think http://www.ubuntugeek.com/startup-manager-change-settings-in-grub-grub2-and-usplash.html
[06:33] <DaSteele> thats called the usplash
[06:33] <eut> i dont see that on the xfce menus
[06:34] <DaSteele> oh yea
[06:35] <DaSteele> sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[06:38] <eut> ok
[06:38] <eut> in the second tab, appearance, i can only choose between the ubuntu and xubuntu usplash themes. i cant disable them altogether?
[06:40] <DaSteele> might have to hand edit grub.list
[06:40] <eut> grub2 :/
[06:40] <eut> so its grub.cfg
[06:40] <DaSteele> gd I hate grub 2
[06:41] <DaSteele> why I'm sticking to jaunty for now
[06:41] <eut> i've already removed quiet and splash from the options line
[06:42] <eut> maybe i have to set nosplash?
[06:44] <eut> hmm ok
[06:44] <eut> i see that same sparkley ubuntu logo three times
[06:45] <eut> 1) after bios, 2) before login chooser (which i still see after disabling it with startupmanager), and 3) after i login but before the desktop fully loads
[06:45] <eut> when i removed splash from the grub.cfg i stopped seeing it the first time
[06:46] <DaSteele> um install grub 1 :)
[06:46] <DaSteele> idk on this one
[06:47] <DaSteele> unless you use synaptic to remove all usplash packages
[06:49] <eut> and remove xubuntu-desktop :/
[06:50] <eut> is xubuntu-desktop necessary? :P
[06:50] <matmatmat> no
[06:50] <eut> so removing that wont remove xfce?
[06:51] <matmatmat> no it wont
[06:51] <matmatmat> i dont have it
[06:51] <eut> great!
[06:51] <matmatmat> but think about what youre doing still
[06:52] <matmatmat> i think it removes gdm e.g,
[06:54] <eut> nope, still have gdm
[06:55] <eut> and nope, still seeing the splash
[06:55] <eut> appears to be the xubuntu splash
[06:55] <matmatmat> what splash?
[06:56] <moetunes> if you want to turn gdm of rename the link in /etc/rc2.d for it so it starts with x instead of s
[06:56] <eut> xubuntu logo with sparkly white things flying in a circular cloud below it
[06:57] <eut> how can i configure gdm displays?
[07:03] <eut> ok got it
[07:03] <eut> had to remove xsplash
[07:04] <eut> now... how to disable the login chooser? i'd like to just type my username and password
[08:53] <Balsaq> good morning citizens of Xubuntu!
[10:49] <Sysi> is it normal that i cant get alsa to xfce-mixer in lucid?
[10:50] <Sysi> pulseaudio only has master, i need all speakers to work
[10:50] <moetunes> Sysi: that would be a quwstion for #ubuntu+1
[10:50] <Sysi> moetunes: xubuntu devs are here
[10:51] <moetunes> !lucid
[10:51] <Sysi> iirc i've been here longer than you :)
[10:52] <knome> okay boys, calm down :P
[10:53] <Sysi> knome: is developer cnah only for development thing or would that be place for lucid questions also?
[10:53] <Sysi> i'm not sure if this mine is that kind of question
[10:54] <Sysi> but are they even going to put that as option to graphical mixer?
[10:56] <knome> Sysi, i'd say maybe #xubuntu-devel or #ubuntu+1 for not released releases, but it's true we've been answering to lucid questions in #xubuntu as well
[10:58] <Sysi> are there xfce-specific people on #+1?
[10:58] <knome> some, but that's why i also said #xubuntu-devel
[11:05] <mr_pouit> Sysi: install gstreamer0.10-alsa
[11:16] <Sysi> mr_pouit: i can use alsamixer in terminal
[11:16] <mr_pouit> ?
[11:17] <mr_pouit> with gstreamer0.10-alsa installed you'll be able to select more controls in xfce4-mixer
[11:17] <mr_pouit> but if you want to use alsamixer, that's fine
[11:17] <Sysi> ah, right
[11:20] <Sysi> cool ♥
[15:36] <RaMcHiP> I made a big boo boo lastnight how would I got about booting into terminal and changing my startup options with xfce?  I made a change to my compiz fusion and whenever it boots up now it locks up
[15:41] <Pres-Gas> RaMcHiP, when it locks up, can you go into one of the virtual consoles?  Press "ctrl + alt + F2" to get to one.  To go back to the GUI, you can then press "ctrl + alt + F7".
[15:43] <RaMcHiP> negative
[15:43] <RaMcHiP> its a total lockup :(
[15:44] <Pres-Gas> ewww
[15:44] <RaMcHiP> yeah and to make things even worse I cannot remember EXACTLY what option I enabled with fusion that is locking it up I believe it was the deform cube option
[15:45] <RaMcHiP> so somehow I need to get into my xfce startup file manually and edit it and takeout the compiz-fusion -replace startup line
[15:46] <Pres-Gas> RaMcHiP, if you hold down the "shift" key right after your BIOS splash, you should get to the GRUB boot screen...Select the latest kernel listed that says "(recovery mode)".  That should get you to a terminal and start up the bare minimum of stuff....then tweak away!
[15:46] <Pres-Gas> Drop to the root shell prompt
[15:47] <xGrind> xubuntu does not recognize partitions of windows
[15:47] <RaMcHiP> what file would I edit to change my startup options I got to the root shell
[15:47] <RaMcHiP> but I need to change it for my users xfce options
[15:48] <RaMcHiP> im still VERY new to linux as a whole :D
[15:48] <Pres-Gas> Now there you got me RaMcHiP.  I only use the compositing already provided by xfce.  Anyone else care to weigh in?
[15:51] <RaMcHiP> yeah I am kind of at a loos myself
[15:51] <RaMcHiP> cant find a guide or anything either
[15:53] <RaMcHiP> ah ha I believe I found it
[15:53] <RaMcHiP> ok now what is a good text editor to use in console? :D
[15:54] <RaMcHiP> imanewbasaurusrex
[15:54] <bazhang> nano ?
[15:54] <RaMcHiP> kk TY :D
[15:54] <Pres-Gas> RaMcHiP, nano for newbies!
[15:54] <RaMcHiP> BRB with results
[15:54] <Pres-Gas> But learn vi somtime
[15:54] <RaMcHiP> DOH that isnt it
[15:55] <RaMcHiP> thats for my compiz settings :( and I can remember what plugin I activated to get this result :/
[15:55] <RaMcHiP> I need xfce startup settings so I can play around with it
[15:55] <RaMcHiP> wait I have an idea
[15:55] <RaMcHiP> BRB
[16:20] <RaMcHiP> no go :(
[16:20] <RaMcHiP> I found a different compiz config file in my etc folder but I didnt see anything in there that looked like it would be of use to my situation
[16:21] <RaMcHiP> thank god I got my windows boot still :D
[16:21] <RaMcHiP> otherwise even coming into this chan would be impossible
[16:40] <RaMcHiP> ok I found the file I want to delete
[16:40] <RaMcHiP> but I CANNOT for the life of me figure out the delete command
[16:40] <RaMcHiP> I am ~/.config/autostart and I want to delete the file "
[16:40] <RaMcHiP> "Compiz Fusion.desktop"
[16:40] <RaMcHiP> how would I go about doing that
[16:41] <RaMcHiP> del rem delete remove nothing works for deleting a file :(
[16:52] <RaMcHiP> how would I delete a file with a space in it through console?
[18:04] <RaMcHiP> hello everyone
[18:11] <RaMcHiP> anyone here know howto accomplish what is on this vid?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBnCc64eZ9w&feature=related
[21:33] <terroh8er> hi guys.. having some trouble
[21:33] <psycho_oreos> ask and you may receive
[21:33] <terroh8er> i installed xubuntu last night, then i updated. now i turned it on and there is no "taskbar" nor is there the bar at the top that has the applications
[21:34] <terroh8er> and also, the terminal and firefox pop up every time it starts up
[21:35] <psycho_oreos> hmm update as in distro upgrade?
[21:36] <terroh8er> no like.. it said there were 186 updates to install
[21:36] <psycho_oreos> which version of xubuntu is this?
[21:36] <terroh8er> 9.10
[21:37] <psycho_oreos> afaik there used to be a bug when updating xubuntu, with the xfce-taskbar not showing at boot, I can't remember the links
[21:38] <psycho_oreos> as for terminal and firefox starting up, if you have previously started them up, xfce sometimes saves the session so that on the next boot with xfce it will load up those applications
[21:41] <terroh8er> well its happened after 4-5 restarts but i figured it had somethign to do with the taskbar not showing up
[21:41] <terroh8er> ill do some searching thanks
[21:43] <terroh8er> hmm ok so i fixed it by typing xfce4-panel in terminal
[21:43] <terroh8er> but it gives me an error
[21:44] <terroh8er> "libxfce5mier-CRITICAL xfe_mixer_get_track assertion GST_IS_MIXER (card) failed
[21:44] <terroh8er> mlibxfce4mixer
[21:45] <terroh8er> ah ok
[21:45] <terroh8er> nm
[21:45] <psycho_oreos> I'd try to pipe that into google
[21:47] <terroh8er> i just did. the person said to put it into the alt-f2 prompt instead of terminal
[21:48] <terroh8er> seems to work
[21:57] <simplicity-> test
[22:03] <terroh8er> everything works now, woot
[22:04] <terroh8er> i hope s-video works.. thats the only thing left to try
[22:08] <rofl__> i want to have a keyboard shortcut that brings the last used terminal window to foreground
[22:09] <rofl__> how would you do that ?
[22:10] <TheSheep> rofl__: you could try programming that with devilspie
[22:12] <rofl__> interesting, do you also know of other methods ?
[22:12] <rofl__> i saw this in a youtub vid ( http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2009/08/25/how-to-install-eclipsedescentldc-d-programming-language-compiler-and-configure-auto-completition/ ), it looks quite practical
[22:14] <rofl__> he seems also have s
[22:15] <rofl__> a more advanced edition of the places thingie
[22:15] <rofl__> which doenst open thunar, but instead shows the content of the chosen folder in the popup
[22:18] <rofl__> again saves from a cluttered taskbar
[22:19] <TheSheep> I don't know other method to do that with xubuntu, but other window managers have pretty flexible macro languages
[22:27] <rofl__> is there a concept like window messages which i could use ?
[22:28] <rofl__> i'm pretty familiar with m$ window handling, sendmessage and so on
[22:28] <rofl__> but i have no clue about how X, or the window manager does that
[22:35] <TheSheep> rofl__: I suppose that's covered in devilspie documentation