| bencrisford | highvoltage: ah ok | 00:23 |
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| bencrisford | stgraber: are edubuntu hosting any openweek sessions? | 00:23 |
| sparker | My clients are not connecting to my new 9.1 install. | 00:40 |
| sparker | I already had some trouble configuring dns so guess that my eth1 also needs configuring but I dont know how - | 00:41 |
| sparker | Anyone able to help a Noobie? | 00:41 |
| * bencrisford thinks 1.10am is time for bed... | 01:12 | |
| bencrisford | night all | 01:12 |
| Noob1e | Is any oneavailable for support? | 09:18 |
| === sparker is now known as sparker100 | ||
| * bencrisford is a bit concerned about gcompris | 10:19 | |
| bencrisford | the games are really neat, my 4 year old cousin really enjoyed himself on it | 10:20 |
| bencrisford | but when its not in a game | 10:20 |
| bencrisford | it crashes every 30 seconds | 10:20 |
| bencrisford | and eventually it renders my pc useless and i have to reboot | 10:20 |
| bencrisford | reboot by pressing the power button, which i despise doing | 10:21 |
| bencrisford | it makes me wonder whether we should include something in our packages that could damage someones computer... | 10:21 |
| bencrisford | it needs *alot* of attention | 10:21 |
| === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage | ||
| mhall119 | bencrisford: I've never had a problem with gCompris before, what version are you running? | 13:36 |
| bencrisford | mhall119: im not entirely sure, but it is updating so i obviously dont have the latest.. but i came back to ubuntu a week ago so whatever version i have it was the latest a week ago | 13:39 |
| bencrisford | i never used to have trouble with it | 13:39 |
| bencrisford | but now it hangs, and takes a long time to load up stuff | 13:39 |
| bencrisford | once you are in a game it runs fine | 13:39 |
| bencrisford | but i have trouble getting back to the main menu and quitting | 13:39 |
| mhall119 | bencrisford: on 10.04? | 13:41 |
| bencrisford | yes | 13:42 |
| mhall119 | hmm, I'll have to try it | 13:42 |
| bencrisford | my lil cousin absolutely loved the games, well the one we got working... | 13:42 |
| mhall119 | I ran it on alpha 2 without a problem | 13:42 |
| mhall119 | it has all kinds of good stuff for 4 year olds | 13:43 |
| mhall119 | childsplay too | 13:43 |
| bencrisford | well i dont see how it would be my hardware, when ive just spent 3 hours playing heroes of newerth without trouble :P | 13:43 |
| bencrisford | yeah | 13:43 |
| bencrisford | i wasnt sure how good the content was, so i was interested to see what he thought | 13:43 |
| bencrisford | and he loved the number matching game with the butterflies | 13:44 |
| mhall119 | could be an sdl bug or something | 13:47 |
| bencrisford | hmm | 13:47 |
| mhall119 | try childsplay and see if it does the same | 13:47 |
| bencrisford | well, im just concerned about it because we now know that people are using edubuntu for stuff like educating aids orphans... | 13:47 |
| bencrisford | and they cant afford to have their computers broke.. | 13:47 |
| bencrisford | i dont have childsplay installed, hang on, ill install now | 13:49 |
| mhall119 | when you're at the main gCompris screen, do you hear music playing? | 13:50 |
| mhall119 | I ship gCompris with Qimo, which is used by a lot of low income families, or ones with special needs kids, so I know how important it is that things just work | 13:50 |
| bencrisford | yeah i hear the music :) | 13:51 |
| bencrisford | childsplay seems to work fine btw | 13:51 |
| mhall119 | hmmm.... | 14:05 |
| mhall119 | I'll check it out, need to rebase Qimo on the beta today anyway | 14:05 |
| bencrisford | mhall119: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs-search?field.distribution=ubuntu&field.sourcepackagename=gcompris&search=Search | 14:14 |
| bencrisford | there seem to be a few reports of crashes/hangs there... | 14:14 |
| Johnkx | Hi | 21:28 |
| Johnkx | I need help with something | 21:28 |
| bencrisford | Johnkx: whats the problem? :) | 21:30 |
| Johnkx | Hi | 21:32 |
| Johnkx | Uhm | 21:32 |
| Johnkx | there's something wrong with the flash plug-in on youtube | 21:32 |
| Johnkx | whenever I try to watch | 21:32 |
| bencrisford | Johnkx: ok, have you recently installed/upgraded your edubuntu? | 21:32 |
| Johnkx | I can't move that bar for viewing and I can't click on the pause button too | 21:32 |
| Johnkx | oh.. I'm not using edubuntu, just ubuntu | 21:32 |
| Johnkx | >_> I guess there's a difference huh | 21:33 |
| bencrisford | oh :/, this is the edubuntu channel, but i might be able to help you anyway | 21:33 |
| bencrisford | next time, try #ubuntu | 21:33 |
| Johnkx | cool thanks | 21:33 |
| bencrisford | so you can view the video? | 21:33 |
| Johnkx | oh ok | 21:33 |
| bencrisford | just not control it? | 21:33 |
| Johnkx | yes I can | 21:33 |
| Johnkx | yep | 21:33 |
| bencrisford | hmm | 21:33 |
| bencrisford | you're using firefox? | 21:33 |
| Johnkx | yes | 21:33 |
| Johnkx | Firefox ver. 3.5.8 For ubuntu | 21:34 |
| Johnkx | canonical - 1.0 | 21:34 |
| bencrisford | has this suddenly stopped working? or is it a new install? | 21:34 |
| Johnkx | its a new install | 21:34 |
| Johnkx | I tried using other flash plugins but adobe's the only one that works | 21:35 |
| Johnkx | works but not perfectly :P | 21:35 |
| bencrisford | do you have 64bit? | 21:36 |
| Johnkx | yes | 21:36 |
| bencrisford | did you download the 64bit flash plugin? | 21:36 |
| bencrisford | http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html | 21:37 |
| Johnkx | oh, I didn't download it from this site | 21:37 |
| bencrisford | thats an alpha development version | 21:37 |
| bencrisford | so you might not want to try it.. | 21:37 |
| bencrisford | dont install that just yet.. | 21:38 |
| Johnkx | I got mine by using the install missing plugins that shows up whenever you don't have a flash plugin | 21:38 |
| Johnkx | oh ok | 21:38 |
| bencrisford | do you have desktop effects? | 21:38 |
| Johnkx | yes | 21:38 |
| bencrisford | compiz? | 21:38 |
| Johnkx | yep | 21:38 |
| bencrisford | run: | 21:38 |
| bencrisford | sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager | 21:38 |
| bencrisford | in terminal | 21:38 |
| bencrisford | tell me when thats done | 21:38 |
| Johnkx | done | 21:39 |
| bencrisford | now run ccsm | 21:39 |
| bencrisford | and disable the video plugin | 21:39 |
| bencrisford | "Video Playback" | 21:39 |
| Johnkx | oh ok | 21:40 |
| Johnkx | done | 21:40 |
| bencrisford | now try youtube | 21:40 |
| bencrisford | if it still doesnt work, try re-enabling. i have looked on forums and someone tried disabling and found it worked when they re-enabled after | 21:40 |
| bencrisford | hows it looking? | 21:41 |
| Johnkx | i still can't click it | 21:41 |
| Johnkx | should I try re-enabling it? | 21:42 |
| bencrisford | give it a go | 21:42 |
| bencrisford | im not sure why it would work, but people have said it does | 21:42 |
| Johnkx | for some reason youtube's site is really slow at this time | 21:42 |
| bencrisford | btw, you did restart firefox before testing it? after you disabled video playback? | 21:43 |
| Johnkx | yes | 21:43 |
| bencrisford | ok goof | 21:43 |
| bencrisford | good* | 21:43 |
| bencrisford | and any other apps using flash? | 21:43 |
| Johnkx | nope | 21:43 |
| bencrisford | well disable video and close all applications using flash | 21:44 |
| bencrisford | then open firefox and try youtube | 21:44 |
| bencrisford | :) | 21:44 |
| Johnkx | ok | 21:44 |
| bencrisford | hows it going?? | 21:45 |
| Johnkx | not working | 21:45 |
| bencrisford | and restarting + re-enabling? | 21:46 |
| Johnkx | yeah I've been trying it for a while | 21:47 |
| Johnkx | no luck | 21:47 |
| bencrisford | ok | 21:49 |
| bencrisford | alright, im running out of suggestions | 21:49 |
| bencrisford | try disabling desktop effects | 21:49 |
| bencrisford | and seeing if it will work | 21:49 |
| bencrisford | that way we can find out if it is compiz that is the problem | 21:50 |
| bencrisford | if it is, then we can re-enable and find a fix, else we can find out what the problem is | 21:50 |
| Johnkx | ok | 21:50 |
| Johnkx | I just disabled visual effects | 21:50 |
| bencrisford | be sure to restart the flash applications first | 21:50 |
| Johnkx | from Appearance preference and yea i closed it already | 21:51 |
| bencrisford | ok | 21:51 |
| Johnkx | omg.. | 21:51 |
| Johnkx | found the problem | 21:51 |
| Johnkx | haha | 21:51 |
| bencrisford | ? :P | 21:51 |
| Johnkx | It was the visual effects | 21:51 |
| bencrisford | ok, now we have to find a fix | 21:52 |
| bencrisford | on forums a few people have suggested different things | 21:53 |
| Johnkx | so yeah basically whenever I enable Visual effects on Extra my flash doesn't work properly | 21:55 |
| Johnkx | and when i turn it off it works | 21:55 |
| bencrisford | the problem is compiz+flash | 21:55 |
| Johnkx | ahh | 21:55 |
| mhall119 | Johnkx: try enabling/disabling hardware acceleration in the flash configuration | 21:56 |
| Johnkx | ok | 21:57 |
| Johnkx | btw just so you know, I can't enable/disable the hardware acceleration when my VE is working | 21:57 |
| mhall119 | try changing it while VE is off, and see if that makes a difference | 21:58 |
| Johnkx | yeah I did that too | 21:58 |
| Johnkx | I just turned it off and it did | 21:58 |
| Johnkx | and I used VE again and see if it works, but it didn't | 21:58 |
| bencrisford | mhall119: it sounds like compiz is fine, flash is fine, but together they dont work | 21:59 |
| Johnkx | ohh | 21:59 |
| Johnkx | yeah, sounds just like that | 21:59 |
| bencrisford | mhall119: hes using 64bit, and compiz has always been a bit buggy there | 21:59 |
| mhall119 | I didn't even know flash was working on 64bit these days | 22:00 |
| bencrisford | i hear its still pretty bad... | 22:00 |
| bencrisford | but it must work, because Johnkx can view youtube when V.Effects are off | 22:01 |
| Johnkx | yeah I can view youtube even if its on/off | 22:01 |
| Johnkx | its just that I can't click it properly | 22:01 |
| Johnkx | like pausing it | 22:01 |
| Johnkx | or moving the time bar | 22:01 |
| Johnkx | sometimes it works, but mostly it doesnt | 22:01 |
| Johnkx | like when I spam click on it, It takes maybe 30-50 clicks before it pauses | 22:02 |
| Johnkx | lol | 22:02 |
| Johnkx | during when V.E is on | 22:02 |
| Johnkx | everything works perfectly when its off | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck | has anyone seen drawpile? | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck | http://sourceforge.net/projects/drawpile/ | 22:03 |
| bencrisford | Johnkx: i have found another thread on forums... they seem to be suggesting pretty much the same things we have been | 22:05 |
| Johnkx | takes 4ever to download lol | 22:05 |
| Johnkx | ohh | 22:05 |
| Johnkx | I see | 22:05 |
| bencrisford | Johnkx: theres a couple of things there we havent tried | 22:05 |
| Johnkx | oh cool lets try it | 22:06 |
| bencrisford | try editing /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer | 22:07 |
| bencrisford | and add this line the line before last: | 22:08 |
| bencrisford | export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 | 22:08 |
| bencrisford | thats what the guy on forums says... | 22:08 |
| Johnkx | where can I see that /usr/lib/nsplugwin thingy | 22:08 |
| Johnkx | should I type it in the terminal? | 22:08 |
| bencrisford | you could go into terminal and type: | 22:09 |
| bencrisford | sudo nano /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer | 22:09 |
| bencrisford | then add a line just before the last one | 22:10 |
| bencrisford | export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 | 22:10 |
| bencrisford | someone on forums suggested it | 22:10 |
| bencrisford | once you have edited it | 22:12 |
| bencrisford | press Ctrl+X | 22:12 |
| bencrisford | then say yes to saving | 22:12 |
| bencrisford | Johnkx: hows it going? | 22:14 |
| Johnkx | lol sorry I'm really slow on using terminal. font is screwed up lol | 22:14 |
| Johnkx | lol sorry | 22:15 |
| Johnkx | whemn | 22:15 |
| Johnkx | when I try to press ctrl - x | 22:15 |
| Johnkx | it says xoff ignored, mumble muble | 22:15 |
| bencrisford | ok, close without saving | 22:16 |
| bencrisford | i dont feel confident suggesting this... | 22:16 |
| bencrisford | i dont want to risk you breaking anything | 22:16 |
| Johnkx | oh | 22:16 |
| Johnkx | kk =p | 22:18 |
| bencrisford | theres the 64bit flash download... but thats an alpha version, so it doesnt come without risk either | 22:18 |
| Johnkx | oh | 22:18 |
| Johnkx | I guess I'll wait for the beta | 22:18 |
| Johnkx | just wondering, how come they say Linux is better than windows, but linux has a lot of things that still doesn't work | 22:20 |
| bencrisford | sorry about that | 22:27 |
| bencrisford | Johnkx: did i miss any messages from you? | 22:27 |
| bencrisford | i had computer trouble ;) | 22:27 |
| bencrisford | Johnkx: im sorry, i have to go | 22:30 |
| bencrisford | are you around later? we could have another go at your flash | 22:31 |
| bencrisford | bbl | 22:31 |
| Johnkx | ahh na you didn't | 22:45 |
| Johnkx | sorry about the late rep lol | 22:45 |
| Johnkx | yeah sure, we can fix it later. Thanks btw | 22:46 |
| bencrisford | night everyone | 23:47 |
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