[00:23] <bencrisford> highvoltage: ah ok
[00:23] <bencrisford> stgraber: are edubuntu hosting any openweek sessions?
[00:40] <sparker> My clients are not connecting to my new 9.1 install.
[00:41] <sparker> I already had some trouble configuring dns so guess that my eth1 also needs configuring but I dont know how -
[00:41] <sparker> Anyone able to help a Noobie?
[01:12]  * bencrisford thinks 1.10am is time for bed...
[01:12] <bencrisford> night all
[09:18] <Noob1e> Is any oneavailable for support?
[10:19]  * bencrisford is a bit concerned about gcompris
[10:20] <bencrisford> the games are really neat, my 4 year old cousin really enjoyed himself on it
[10:20] <bencrisford> but when its not in a game
[10:20] <bencrisford> it crashes every 30 seconds
[10:20] <bencrisford> and eventually it renders my pc useless and i have to reboot
[10:21] <bencrisford> reboot by pressing the power button, which i despise doing
[10:21] <bencrisford> it makes me wonder whether we should include something in our packages that could damage someones computer...
[10:21] <bencrisford> it needs *alot* of attention
[13:36] <mhall119> bencrisford: I've never had a problem with gCompris before, what version are you running?
[13:39] <bencrisford> mhall119: im not entirely sure, but it is updating so i obviously dont have the latest..  but i came back to ubuntu a week ago so whatever version i have it was the latest a week ago
[13:39] <bencrisford> i never used to have trouble with it
[13:39] <bencrisford> but now it hangs, and takes a long time to load up stuff
[13:39] <bencrisford> once you are in a game it runs fine
[13:39] <bencrisford> but i have trouble getting back to the main menu and quitting
[13:41] <mhall119> bencrisford: on 10.04?
[13:42] <bencrisford> yes
[13:42] <mhall119> hmm, I'll have to try it
[13:42] <bencrisford> my lil cousin absolutely loved the games, well the one we got working...
[13:42] <mhall119> I ran it on alpha 2 without a problem
[13:43] <mhall119> it has all kinds of good stuff for 4 year olds
[13:43] <mhall119> childsplay too
[13:43] <bencrisford> well i dont see how it would be my hardware, when ive just spent 3 hours playing heroes of newerth without trouble :P
[13:43] <bencrisford> yeah
[13:43] <bencrisford> i wasnt sure how good the content was, so i was interested to see what he thought
[13:44] <bencrisford> and he loved the number matching game with the butterflies
[13:47] <mhall119> could be an sdl bug or something
[13:47] <bencrisford> hmm
[13:47] <mhall119> try childsplay and see if it does the same
[13:47] <bencrisford> well, im just concerned about it because we now know that people are using edubuntu for stuff like educating aids orphans...
[13:47] <bencrisford> and they cant afford to have their computers broke..
[13:49] <bencrisford> i dont have childsplay installed, hang on, ill install now
[13:50] <mhall119> when you're at the main gCompris screen, do you hear music playing?
[13:50] <mhall119> I ship gCompris with Qimo, which is used by a lot of low income families, or ones with special needs kids, so I know how important it is that things just work
[13:51] <bencrisford> yeah i hear the music :)
[13:51] <bencrisford> childsplay seems to work fine btw
[14:05] <mhall119> hmmm....
[14:05] <mhall119> I'll check it out, need to rebase Qimo on the beta today anyway
[14:14] <bencrisford> mhall119: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs-search?field.distribution=ubuntu&field.sourcepackagename=gcompris&search=Search
[14:14] <bencrisford> there seem to be a few reports of crashes/hangs there...
[21:28] <Johnkx> Hi
[21:28] <Johnkx> I need help with something
[21:30] <bencrisford> Johnkx: whats the problem? :)
[21:32] <Johnkx> Hi
[21:32] <Johnkx> Uhm
[21:32] <Johnkx> there's something wrong with the flash plug-in on youtube
[21:32] <Johnkx> whenever I try to watch
[21:32] <bencrisford> Johnkx: ok, have you recently installed/upgraded your edubuntu?
[21:32] <Johnkx> I can't move that bar for viewing and I can't click on the pause button too
[21:32] <Johnkx> oh.. I'm not using edubuntu, just ubuntu
[21:33] <Johnkx> >_> I guess there's a difference huh
[21:33] <bencrisford> oh :/, this is the edubuntu channel, but i might be able to help you anyway
[21:33] <bencrisford> next time, try #ubuntu
[21:33] <Johnkx> cool thanks
[21:33] <bencrisford> so you can view the video?
[21:33] <Johnkx> oh ok
[21:33] <bencrisford> just not control it?
[21:33] <Johnkx> yes I can
[21:33] <Johnkx> yep
[21:33] <bencrisford> hmm
[21:33] <bencrisford> you're using firefox?
[21:33] <Johnkx> yes
[21:34] <Johnkx> Firefox ver. 3.5.8 For ubuntu
[21:34] <Johnkx> canonical - 1.0
[21:34] <bencrisford> has this suddenly stopped working?  or is it a new install?
[21:34] <Johnkx> its a new install
[21:35] <Johnkx> I tried using other flash plugins but adobe's the only one that works
[21:35] <Johnkx> works but not perfectly :P
[21:36] <bencrisford> do you have 64bit?
[21:36] <Johnkx> yes
[21:36] <bencrisford> did you download the 64bit flash plugin?
[21:37] <bencrisford> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html
[21:37] <Johnkx> oh, I didn't download it from this site
[21:37] <bencrisford> thats an alpha development version
[21:37] <bencrisford> so you might not want to try it..
[21:38] <bencrisford> dont install that just yet..
[21:38] <Johnkx> I got mine by using the install missing plugins that shows up whenever you don't have a flash plugin
[21:38] <Johnkx> oh ok
[21:38] <bencrisford> do you have desktop effects?
[21:38] <Johnkx> yes
[21:38] <bencrisford> compiz?
[21:38] <Johnkx> yep
[21:38] <bencrisford> run:
[21:38] <bencrisford> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:38] <bencrisford> in terminal
[21:38] <bencrisford> tell me when thats done
[21:39] <Johnkx> done
[21:39] <bencrisford> now run ccsm
[21:39] <bencrisford> and disable the video plugin
[21:39] <bencrisford> "Video Playback"
[21:40] <Johnkx> oh ok
[21:40] <Johnkx> done
[21:40] <bencrisford> now try youtube
[21:40] <bencrisford> if it still doesnt work, try re-enabling.  i have looked on forums and someone tried disabling and found it worked when they re-enabled after
[21:41] <bencrisford> hows it looking?
[21:41] <Johnkx> i still can't click it
[21:42] <Johnkx> should I try re-enabling it?
[21:42] <bencrisford> give it a go
[21:42] <bencrisford> im not sure why it would work, but people have said it does
[21:42] <Johnkx> for some reason youtube's site is really slow at this time
[21:43] <bencrisford> btw, you did restart firefox before testing it?  after you disabled video playback?
[21:43] <Johnkx> yes
[21:43] <bencrisford> ok goof
[21:43] <bencrisford> good*
[21:43] <bencrisford> and any other apps using flash?
[21:43] <Johnkx> nope
[21:44] <bencrisford> well disable video and close all applications using flash
[21:44] <bencrisford> then open firefox and try youtube
[21:44] <bencrisford> :)
[21:44] <Johnkx> ok
[21:45] <bencrisford> hows it going??
[21:45] <Johnkx> not working
[21:46] <bencrisford> and restarting + re-enabling?
[21:47] <Johnkx> yeah I've been trying it for a while
[21:47] <Johnkx> no luck
[21:49] <bencrisford> ok
[21:49] <bencrisford> alright, im running out of suggestions
[21:49] <bencrisford> try disabling desktop effects
[21:49] <bencrisford> and seeing if it will work
[21:50] <bencrisford> that way we can find out if it is compiz that is the problem
[21:50] <bencrisford> if it is, then we can re-enable and find a fix, else we can find out what the problem is
[21:50] <Johnkx> ok
[21:50] <Johnkx> I just disabled visual effects
[21:50] <bencrisford> be sure to restart the flash applications first
[21:51] <Johnkx> from Appearance preference and yea i closed it already
[21:51] <bencrisford> ok
[21:51] <Johnkx> omg..
[21:51] <Johnkx> found the problem
[21:51] <Johnkx> haha
[21:51] <bencrisford> ? :P
[21:51] <Johnkx> It was the visual effects
[21:52] <bencrisford> ok, now we have to find a fix
[21:53] <bencrisford> on forums a few people have suggested different things
[21:55] <Johnkx> so yeah basically whenever I enable Visual effects on Extra my flash doesn't work properly
[21:55] <Johnkx> and when i turn it off it works
[21:55] <bencrisford> the problem is compiz+flash
[21:55] <Johnkx> ahh
[21:56] <mhall119> Johnkx: try enabling/disabling hardware acceleration in the flash configuration
[21:57] <Johnkx> ok
[21:57] <Johnkx> btw just so you know, I can't enable/disable the hardware acceleration when my VE is working
[21:58] <mhall119> try changing it while VE is off, and see if that makes a difference
[21:58] <Johnkx> yeah I did that too
[21:58] <Johnkx> I just turned it off and it did
[21:58] <Johnkx> and I used VE again and see if it works, but it didn't
[21:59] <bencrisford> mhall119: it sounds like compiz is fine, flash is fine, but together they dont work
[21:59] <Johnkx> ohh
[21:59] <Johnkx> yeah, sounds just like that
[21:59] <bencrisford> mhall119: hes using 64bit, and compiz has always been a bit buggy there
[22:00] <mhall119> I didn't even know flash was working on 64bit these days
[22:00] <bencrisford> i hear its still pretty bad...
[22:01] <bencrisford> but it must work, because Johnkx can view youtube when V.Effects are off
[22:01] <Johnkx> yeah I can view youtube even if its on/off
[22:01] <Johnkx> its just that I can't click it properly
[22:01] <Johnkx> like pausing it
[22:01] <Johnkx> or moving the time bar
[22:01] <Johnkx> sometimes it works, but mostly it doesnt
[22:02] <Johnkx> like when I spam click on it, It takes maybe 30-50 clicks before it pauses
[22:02] <Johnkx> lol
[22:02] <Johnkx> during when V.E is on
[22:02] <Johnkx> everything works perfectly when its off
[22:02] <Ahmuck> has anyone seen drawpile?
[22:03] <Ahmuck> http://sourceforge.net/projects/drawpile/
[22:05] <bencrisford> Johnkx: i have found another thread on forums...  they seem to be suggesting pretty much the same things we have been
[22:05] <Johnkx> takes 4ever to download lol
[22:05] <Johnkx> ohh
[22:05] <Johnkx> I see
[22:05] <bencrisford> Johnkx: theres a couple of things there we havent tried
[22:06] <Johnkx> oh cool lets try it
[22:07] <bencrisford> try editing /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer
[22:08] <bencrisford> and add this line the line before last:
[22:08] <bencrisford> export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
[22:08] <bencrisford> thats what the guy on forums says...
[22:08] <Johnkx> where can I see that /usr/lib/nsplugwin thingy
[22:08] <Johnkx> should I type it in the terminal?
[22:09] <bencrisford> you could go into terminal and type:
[22:09] <bencrisford> sudo nano /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer
[22:10] <bencrisford> then add a line just before the last one
[22:10] <bencrisford> export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
[22:10] <bencrisford> someone on forums suggested it
[22:12] <bencrisford> once you have edited it
[22:12] <bencrisford> press Ctrl+X
[22:12] <bencrisford> then say yes to saving
[22:14] <bencrisford> Johnkx: hows it going?
[22:14] <Johnkx> lol sorry I'm really slow on using terminal. font is screwed up lol
[22:15] <Johnkx> lol sorry
[22:15] <Johnkx> whemn
[22:15] <Johnkx> when I try to press ctrl - x
[22:15] <Johnkx> it says xoff ignored, mumble muble
[22:16] <bencrisford> ok, close without saving
[22:16] <bencrisford> i dont feel confident suggesting this...
[22:16] <bencrisford> i dont want to risk you breaking anything
[22:16] <Johnkx> oh
[22:18] <Johnkx> kk =p
[22:18] <bencrisford> theres the 64bit flash download...  but thats an alpha version, so it doesnt come without risk either
[22:18] <Johnkx> oh
[22:18] <Johnkx> I guess I'll wait for the beta
[22:20] <Johnkx> just wondering, how come they say Linux is better than windows, but linux has a lot of things that still doesn't work
[22:27] <bencrisford> sorry about that
[22:27] <bencrisford> Johnkx: did i miss any messages from you?
[22:27] <bencrisford> i had computer trouble ;)
[22:30] <bencrisford> Johnkx: im sorry, i have to go
[22:31] <bencrisford> are you around later?  we could have another go at your flash
[22:31] <bencrisford> bbl
[22:45] <Johnkx> ahh na you didn't
[22:45] <Johnkx> sorry about the late rep lol
[22:46] <Johnkx> yeah sure, we can fix it later. Thanks btw
[23:47] <bencrisford> night everyone