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| Karth | would anyone know why my RX-80 dot matrix printer prints at 1 line a minute under xubuntu? | 03:21 |
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| willdo | Hi everyone | 10:31 |
| moetunes | hey there willdo | 10:34 |
| willdo | hey, I have a very very straightforward question about xubuntu vs ubuntu | 10:35 |
| moetunes | shoot | 10:36 |
| willdo | I am running ubuntu 9.10 on a Atom330, ext4 partitions | 10:36 |
| willdo | I have to wait couple seconds each time I navigate in a new folder | 10:37 |
| willdo | and wanted to know if it would be faster if i were on xubuntu | 10:37 |
| willdo | or if it is hopeless, or caused by something else | 10:37 |
| moetunes | willdo: atom330 is the cpu right? | 10:37 |
| willdo | yes | 10:38 |
| willdo | that for saying that the computer is not super fast, Atom330 is a dual core 1.6ghz, initially used in very small laptops | 10:38 |
| moetunes | the kernel is prob not set up for it - just needs a source d/load and recompile - I don't know if xubuntu caters to them out of the box | 10:39 |
| willdo | how do I know which version of kernel would be "tuned" for this ? | 10:40 |
| moetunes | willdo: I should add that that is a guess | 10:40 |
| willdo | I thought that it was nautilus' fault, that's why I was thinking about an other file explorer | 10:41 |
| moetunes | willdo: give me a min and I will explore the options | 10:42 |
| willdo | very kind from you, thanks ! | 10:42 |
| willdo | maybe i should have said my ubuntu is 64bit | 10:43 |
| moetunes | seems it works better in 32bit willdo | 10:45 |
| moetunes | but the diff is small - www.google.com/linux?hl=en&q=atom330+64bit&btnG=Search | 10:46 |
| willdo | also, it may be caused by ext4 ? | 10:49 |
| moetunes | willdo: ext4 tests quicker in read/write than ext3 - so I would doubt it | 10:51 |
| moetunes | unless you have more than 4g ram 64bit is more hassle then it is worth imo | 10:51 |
| willdo | I have just 4, one part is used by the ION chipset, the rest is for the systme, but it is far from using it | 10:54 |
| moetunes | willdo: from research on #ubuntu-offtopic - if you're using the 64bit ubuntu it shouldn't play a part - google was prob wrong | 10:57 |
| willdo | the last phoronix test about linux kernels on 32 32PAE and 64 found great advantages of 64bit | 10:58 |
| willdo | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=5 | 10:58 |
| moetunes | willdo: that was why "they" came up with 64bit | 10:58 |
| willdo | ok ;) | 11:01 |
| moetunes | willdo: that slow nautilus start might be due to the graphics settings - I got an improvement from my file browser by adding backingstore to the xorg.conf cause the logs said it was disabled | 11:02 |
| moetunes | an improvement in all apps loading time in fact | 11:03 |
| willdo | I'll give it a try | 11:05 |
| moetunes | willdo: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if it is appropriate first | 11:06 |
| willdo | i looked at the xorg.conf file and add neither "RenderAccel" "backingstore" nor "AllowGLXWithComposite" inside | 11:09 |
| willdo | -add +had | 11:09 |
| moetunes | o - what's the graphic card? - lspci will tell in terminal | 11:11 |
| willdo | (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled | 11:12 |
| willdo | int he log | 11:12 |
| willdo | mine is NVIDIA ION | 11:12 |
| moetunes | willdo: you need to add Option"backingstore" "true" to a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/ | 11:14 |
| willdo | i did, i am suprised cause my xorg file is only 20 lines long, although it is the one loaded (as stated in the log) | 11:15 |
| willdo | there is for example no line about keyboard mouse nor monitors | 11:15 |
| moetunes | willdo: it is mostly automated now - except for what is in the xorg.conf file afaik | 11:17 |
| moetunes | the log will say something about using hal | 11:17 |
| willdo | yes it does | 11:18 |
| moetunes | willdo: you can make a full xorg.conf and edit it to your liking with Xorg -configure in terminal - then mv -v ./xorg.conf /etc/X11/ | 11:19 |
| willdo | so, | 11:22 |
| willdo | I typed alt+k+print screen | 11:22 |
| willdo | is that enough or do i need to reboot ? | 11:23 |
| moetunes | willdo: logout - hit ctrl+alt+backspace and login | 11:23 |
| moetunes | restarts X | 11:24 |
| moetunes | there's gdm to restart | 11:24 |
| willdo | yeah, that what alt + k + printscreen is doing, (from 9.10) | 11:24 |
| moetunes | I know nothing of that - I'm old school :) | 11:25 |
| moetunes | willdo: did you notice X restart? | 11:25 |
| willdo | yes | 11:26 |
| willdo | i'll check logs to see if it changed something | 11:26 |
| moetunes | willdo: check the log then mate :) | 11:26 |
| moetunes | hehe | 11:26 |
| willdo | did it, it's ok | 11:27 |
| moetunes | nautilus is better? | 11:27 |
| willdo | can't say | 11:27 |
| moetunes | that was the point after all... | 11:27 |
| willdo | if there is a differents, it's very small | 11:27 |
| willdo | but i also installed xunbuntu desktop so i'll check on xfce | 11:28 |
| willdo | be right back | 11:28 |
| willdo | many thanks for your time | 11:28 |
| moetunes | I'm on a 2.8ghz cpu here and thunar tahes 3-5 secs to open a dir first time | 11:28 |
| moetunes | *takes | 11:29 |
| willdo | thunar ? | 11:29 |
| moetunes | nautilus for xubuntu | 11:29 |
| moetunes | !thunar | 11:29 |
| ubottu | Thunar is a file manager for !Xfce. It is a lightweight alternative to !Nautilus and is quite similar. More info at: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html - Want to Replace Nautilus with Thunar? See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease | 11:29 |
| willdo | 3-5 sec ! | 11:29 |
| willdo | how can you bear that | 11:30 |
| willdo | ^ | 11:30 |
| moetunes | I have lots of files :) | 11:30 |
| willdo | ^^ | 11:30 |
| moetunes | that's first time - once they're cached it is almost instantaneouslt | 11:30 |
| moetunes | *y | 11:31 |
| willdo | I am not tied to nautilus, so if xfce is better, why not :) | 11:31 |
| moetunes | I spelt that wrong... | 11:31 |
| willdo | by first time you mean after login, or in a row ? | 11:31 |
| moetunes | I have thunar on all my desktop comps | 11:31 |
| moetunes | after opening once | 11:32 |
| moetunes | again - many files in my folders - most need thumbnails | 11:32 |
| willdo | wow | 11:36 |
| willdo | i am on xfce right now | 11:36 |
| moetunes | quicker? | 11:36 |
| willdo | better tell me what's so good about nautilus or i am sticking here | 11:36 |
| willdo | :) | 11:36 |
| willdo | its so fast, | 11:37 |
| moetunes | hehe | 11:37 |
| lifeofguenter | hi all | 11:37 |
| willdo | feels like windows XP :) | 11:37 |
| willdo | hi | 11:37 |
| moetunes | gnome is getting bloated imo - xfce is sooo much quicker | 11:37 |
| lifeofguenter | any roadmap / plan on 10.4? | 11:39 |
| willdo | wow, backspace works to go to previous dir ! | 11:40 |
| moetunes | lifeofguenter: you could ask in #ubuntu+1 or follow | 11:40 |
| moetunes | !lucid | 11:40 |
| ubottu | Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule | 11:40 |
| willdo | wow, alt + up go to parent dir | 11:41 |
| lifeofguenter | thanks moetunes | 11:41 |
| moetunes | :) | 11:43 |
| willdo | thanks so much moetunes for your help and your time | 11:56 |
| moetunes | willdo: glad to help :) | 11:56 |
| willdo | I was really really considering installing XP instead, just because of this slow explorer | 11:57 |
| willdo | it was close ^ | 11:57 |
| willdo | ^^ | 11:57 |
| moetunes | no explorer in linux pls | 11:57 |
| moetunes | hehe | 11:57 |
| willdo | what instead ? | 11:57 |
| moetunes | file browser | 11:57 |
| moetunes | maybe | 11:57 |
| willdo | fair enough | 11:57 |
| moetunes | k :) | 11:57 |
| moetunes | luck willdo | 12:00 |
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| py | hello | 15:21 |
| py | I just installed karmic on an older pc, which is fitted with a GeForce 2 MX 400. With the driver "nv", I cannot get higher than 800x600/60, and with the "nvidia" driver, it is even worse, at 640x480 | 15:23 |
| py | This pc was previously running a (very) outdated gentoo, and it was running at 1280x1024/85Hz flawlessly. How can I get that resolution back? | 15:24 |
| psycho_oreos | isn't there a nvidia x server config tool you can use? | 15:25 |
| py | when I enable the "nvidia" driver, there is this nvidia-settings control panel which I can use, but it doesn't offer me any chance to get higher than 640x480 | 15:26 |
| psycho_oreos | hmm the only other way I can think of is to manually add the lines in yourself into xorg.conf file | 15:27 |
| rofl__ | which command would you use to chmod all files 660 but all directories 770 ? | 15:32 |
| rofl__ | need to write a perl script for that ? :) | 15:32 |
| py | chmod 770 `find ./ -type d`; chmod 660 `find ./ -type f` | 15:33 |
| rofl__ | cool, is that recursive ? | 15:34 |
| rofl__ | meaning applied to subfolders as well | 15:34 |
| py | yeah, just look at the output of find ./ -type d and find ./ -type f: it wiil be what the chmod will be applied to | 15:34 |
| py | (you can do so before running the actual chmod, so you can make sure it is what you want) | 15:35 |
| rofl__ | thanks, very handy | 15:35 |
| rofl__ | i need that often | 15:35 |
| py | regarding my X resolution problem, I happened to still have the config from the previous old install (which was still called XF86Config... vintage stuff ;-)). I replaced the broken xorg.conf by this version, and it actually works... | 15:36 |
| psycho_oreos | in other words you fixed it? :) | 15:37 |
| py | psycho_oreos: yeah, seems so | 15:37 |
| hal_9000 | you know, i noticed that there aren't as many problems posted here for xubuntu compared to ubuntu. maybe because of better performance or less people using it. | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | less users | 15:44 |
| hal_9000 | ah | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | Ubuntu has millions, we have thousands | 15:45 |
| hal_9000 | yes, "its all very clear to me know"....oops! was that HAL talking? LOL | 15:46 |
| jyraia | hello | 19:53 |
| jyraia | need some help, how to install Xubuntu? | 19:53 |
| jyraia | oops | 19:53 |
| jyraia | Reconstructor on Xubuntu | 19:54 |
| TheSheep | a what? | 19:54 |
| jyraia | TheSheep, did you know? | 19:55 |
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| dna42 | hi! could you please explain how much impact different themes and fonts have on a xubuntu installation on a netbook? | 22:34 |
| dna42 | i mean, performance-wise? | 22:40 |
| dna42 | nobody? | 23:43 |
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