=== Guest88193 is now known as Karth [03:21] would anyone know why my RX-80 dot matrix printer prints at 1 line a minute under xubuntu? === flossk is now known as gent_flossk === gent_flossk is now known as ardian_flossk === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam [10:31] Hi everyone [10:34] hey there willdo [10:35] hey, I have a very very straightforward question about xubuntu vs ubuntu [10:36] shoot [10:36] I am running ubuntu 9.10 on a Atom330, ext4 partitions [10:37] I have to wait couple seconds each time I navigate in a new folder [10:37] and wanted to know if it would be faster if i were on xubuntu [10:37] or if it is hopeless, or caused by something else [10:37] willdo: atom330 is the cpu right? [10:38] yes [10:38] that for saying that the computer is not super fast, Atom330 is a dual core 1.6ghz, initially used in very small laptops [10:39] the kernel is prob not set up for it - just needs a source d/load and recompile - I don't know if xubuntu caters to them out of the box [10:40] how do I know which version of kernel would be "tuned" for this ? [10:40] willdo: I should add that that is a guess [10:41] I thought that it was nautilus' fault, that's why I was thinking about an other file explorer [10:42] willdo: give me a min and I will explore the options [10:42] very kind from you, thanks ! [10:43] maybe i should have said my ubuntu is 64bit [10:45] seems it works better in 32bit willdo [10:46] but the diff is small - www.google.com/linux?hl=en&q=atom330+64bit&btnG=Search [10:49] also, it may be caused by ext4 ? [10:51] willdo: ext4 tests quicker in read/write than ext3 - so I would doubt it [10:51] unless you have more than 4g ram 64bit is more hassle then it is worth imo [10:54] I have just 4, one part is used by the ION chipset, the rest is for the systme, but it is far from using it [10:57] willdo: from research on #ubuntu-offtopic - if you're using the 64bit ubuntu it shouldn't play a part - google was prob wrong [10:58] the last phoronix test about linux kernels on 32 32PAE and 64 found great advantages of 64bit [10:58] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=5 [10:58] willdo: that was why "they" came up with 64bit [11:01] ok ;) [11:02] willdo: that slow nautilus start might be due to the graphics settings - I got an improvement from my file browser by adding backingstore to the xorg.conf cause the logs said it was disabled [11:03] an improvement in all apps loading time in fact [11:05] I'll give it a try [11:06] willdo: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if it is appropriate first [11:09] i looked at the xorg.conf file and add neither "RenderAccel" "backingstore" nor "AllowGLXWithComposite" inside [11:09] -add +had [11:11] o - what's the graphic card? - lspci will tell in terminal [11:12] (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled [11:12] int he log [11:12] mine is NVIDIA ION [11:14] willdo: you need to add Option "backingstore" "true" to a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/ [11:15] i did, i am suprised cause my xorg file is only 20 lines long, although it is the one loaded (as stated in the log) [11:15] there is for example no line about keyboard mouse nor monitors [11:17] willdo: it is mostly automated now - except for what is in the xorg.conf file afaik [11:17] the log will say something about using hal [11:18] yes it does [11:19] willdo: you can make a full xorg.conf and edit it to your liking with Xorg -configure in terminal - then mv -v ./xorg.conf /etc/X11/ [11:22] so, [11:22] I typed alt+k+print screen [11:23] is that enough or do i need to reboot ? [11:23] willdo: logout - hit ctrl+alt+backspace and login [11:24] restarts X [11:24] there's gdm to restart [11:24] yeah, that what alt + k + printscreen is doing, (from 9.10) [11:25] I know nothing of that - I'm old school :) [11:25] willdo: did you notice X restart? [11:26] yes [11:26] i'll check logs to see if it changed something [11:26] willdo: check the log then mate :) [11:26] hehe [11:27] did it, it's ok [11:27] nautilus is better? [11:27] can't say [11:27] that was the point after all... [11:27] if there is a differents, it's very small [11:28] but i also installed xunbuntu desktop so i'll check on xfce [11:28] be right back [11:28] many thanks for your time [11:28] I'm on a 2.8ghz cpu here and thunar tahes 3-5 secs to open a dir first time [11:29] *takes [11:29] thunar ? [11:29] nautilus for xubuntu [11:29] !thunar [11:29] Thunar is a file manager for !Xfce. It is a lightweight alternative to !Nautilus and is quite similar. More info at: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html - Want to Replace Nautilus with Thunar? See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease [11:29] 3-5 sec ! [11:30] how can you bear that [11:30] ^ [11:30] I have lots of files :) [11:30] ^^ [11:30] that's first time - once they're cached it is almost instantaneouslt [11:31] *y [11:31] I am not tied to nautilus, so if xfce is better, why not :) [11:31] I spelt that wrong... [11:31] by first time you mean after login, or in a row ? [11:31] I have thunar on all my desktop comps [11:32] after opening once [11:32] again - many files in my folders - most need thumbnails [11:36] wow [11:36] i am on xfce right now [11:36] quicker? [11:36] better tell me what's so good about nautilus or i am sticking here [11:36] :) [11:37] its so fast, [11:37] hehe [11:37] hi all [11:37] feels like windows XP :) [11:37] hi [11:37] gnome is getting bloated imo - xfce is sooo much quicker [11:39] any roadmap / plan on 10.4? [11:40] wow, backspace works to go to previous dir ! [11:40] lifeofguenter: you could ask in #ubuntu+1 or follow [11:40] !lucid [11:40] Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule [11:41] wow, alt + up go to parent dir [11:41] thanks moetunes [11:43] :) [11:56] thanks so much moetunes for your help and your time [11:56] willdo: glad to help :) [11:57] I was really really considering installing XP instead, just because of this slow explorer [11:57] it was close ^ [11:57] ^^ [11:57] no explorer in linux pls [11:57] hehe [11:57] what instead ? [11:57] file browser [11:57] maybe [11:57] fair enough [11:57] k :) [12:00] luck willdo === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage === ardian_flossk is now known as gent_flossk [15:21] hello [15:23] I just installed karmic on an older pc, which is fitted with a GeForce 2 MX 400. With the driver "nv", I cannot get higher than 800x600/60, and with the "nvidia" driver, it is even worse, at 640x480 [15:24] This pc was previously running a (very) outdated gentoo, and it was running at 1280x1024/85Hz flawlessly. How can I get that resolution back? [15:25] isn't there a nvidia x server config tool you can use? [15:26] when I enable the "nvidia" driver, there is this nvidia-settings control panel which I can use, but it doesn't offer me any chance to get higher than 640x480 [15:27] hmm the only other way I can think of is to manually add the lines in yourself into xorg.conf file [15:32] which command would you use to chmod all files 660 but all directories 770 ? [15:32] need to write a perl script for that ? :) [15:33] chmod 770 `find ./ -type d`; chmod 660 `find ./ -type f` [15:34] cool, is that recursive ? [15:34] meaning applied to subfolders as well [15:34] yeah, just look at the output of find ./ -type d and find ./ -type f: it wiil be what the chmod will be applied to [15:35] (you can do so before running the actual chmod, so you can make sure it is what you want) [15:35] thanks, very handy [15:35] i need that often [15:36] regarding my X resolution problem, I happened to still have the config from the previous old install (which was still called XF86Config... vintage stuff ;-)). I replaced the broken xorg.conf by this version, and it actually works... [15:37] in other words you fixed it? :) [15:37] psycho_oreos: yeah, seems so [15:44] you know, i noticed that there aren't as many problems posted here for xubuntu compared to ubuntu. maybe because of better performance or less people using it. [15:44] less users [15:44] ah [15:45] Ubuntu has millions, we have thousands [15:46] yes, "its all very clear to me know"....oops! was that HAL talking? LOL [19:53] hello [19:53] need some help, how to install Xubuntu? [19:53] oops [19:54] Reconstructor on Xubuntu [19:54] a what? [19:55] TheSheep, did you know? === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam [22:34] hi! could you please explain how much impact different themes and fonts have on a xubuntu installation on a netbook? [22:40] i mean, performance-wise? [23:43] nobody?