[01:22] <LiveWireBT> arand: i tried the latest daily build now. all ok
[01:22] <arand> LiveWireBT: Dandy.
[01:25] <LiveWireBT> pardon?
[01:33] <arand> LiveWireBT: Good, great, excellent, bejugular.
[02:17] <helmy> hello , i have just installed ubuntu 10.04 on my IBM thinkpad T43 , i noticed some bugs i like to report , is there any bug tracking system i can use ?
[02:18] <yofel> !bugs | helmy
[02:18] <ubot4> helmy: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[09:51] <bencrisford> Happy easter!
[10:14] <zeroseven0183> Happy easter everyone
[10:15] <bencrisford> zeroseven0183: happy easter to you too :)
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[10:44] <Damascene> vish, I can't send any email to the desktop mail list
[11:12] <vish> Damascene: not sure.. try asking in the desktop channel tomorrow , regarding the problem
[11:13] <vish> the language depends problem*
[11:20] <xteejx> Hey guys
[11:22] <xteejx> bug 514382 (bug control only) - it grabbed a CoreDump.gz, so I can't make it public, but it appears it has attempted to retrace it, but not sure if it has managed to do this properly or not. (Not really used to apport reports with coredumps)
[11:22] <ubot4> xteejx: Bug 514382 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/514382 is private
[11:22] <xteejx> Shall I reproduce this under gdb control to obtain a useful backtrace?
[11:24] <xteejx> Hmm....strange it seems to work now, so no worries I'll close it
[11:46] <mocikz> hi, my wifi disconnects every ~3 minutes. how to report it?
[11:49] <bencrisford> mocikz: before you report it, are you sure it isnt a problem with your internet connection?
[11:49] <bencrisford> are there people on the same network experiencing the same problems
[11:49] <bencrisford> ?
[11:50] <mocikz> no, just me
[11:50] <mocikz> BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[11:50] <xteejx> should really ask support questions in #ubuntu
[11:50] <bencrisford> mocikz: have you recently installed/upgraded?
[11:50] <bencrisford> xteejx: he is asking for help reporting bugs
[11:50] <bencrisford> so technically i think hes in the right place
[11:50] <xteejx> ok, what chipset is the wifi?
[11:51] <xteejx> mocikz: ^
[11:52] <xteejx> !report | mocikz
[11:52] <ubot4> Factoid 'report' not found
[11:52] <xteejx> !bug
[11:52] <ubot4> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[11:52] <mocikz> I use b43-fwcutter  but ubuntu forums say to try also ndiswrapper
[11:53] <xteejx> in your case this would probably be the package "linux"
[11:53] <bencrisford> mocikz: have you recently installed or upgraded?
[11:53] <bencrisford> xteejx: not if he hasnt installed drivers yet...
[11:53] <xteejx> yes with broadcom chipsets you should try using ndiswrapper first see if that helps the situation. Are you using WEP/WPA/WPA2?
[11:53] <mocikz> no.  but I remember having simmilar problems long ago even on 8.10 or before
[11:53] <bencrisford> mocikz: has this suddenly started?
[11:53] <bencrisford> no upgrades?
[11:53] <mocikz> I use WPA2. Do I look like a noob with wep? :P
[11:53] <xteejx> bencrisford: he is using the fwcutter driver
[11:54] <mocikz> clear
[11:54] <bencrisford> mocikz: so it was working?  not it isnt?
[11:54] <bencrisford> now*
[11:54] <xteejx> mocikz: lol Ok, so it could be the wifi driver causing issues or wpa-supplicant with the WPA2
[11:55] <bencrisford> xteejx: if it has never worked on his current install he just needs to try some different drivers, and i wouldnt say its a bug
[11:55] <bencrisford> if an upgrade has caused it to have trouble
[11:55] <bencrisford> then id report it
[11:55] <xteejx> I'd try ndiswrapper first with the Windows drivers for your card to be honest
[11:55] <mocikz> it was alway working this way: connect, and then disconnects after few up to 3 minutes.  Im chekcing out that other way now
[11:56] <mocikz> brb
[11:57] <xteejx> bencrisford: "it was always working this way" suggests to me that he has been using other versions, but mehh I think he's gonna try ndiswrapper, with the broadcom its a bitch with the open source drivers :(
[11:58] <bencrisford> xteejx: tell me about it, i have a broadcom card..
[11:58] <bencrisford> but still, it isnt a bug in ubuntu IMO unless a change in ubuntu has caused it
[11:58] <xteejx> bencrisford: same on my other laptop, not that the atheros one in this works either lol
[11:59] <bencrisford> xteejx: i dont fully understand what goes on in my laptop :P, because lspci reveals that i have a broadcom and an atheros :S
[11:59] <xteejx> doubtful, probably just unknowledgable about the open source/ndiswrapper drivers,
[11:59] <xteejx> lol sounds like your laptop is a liar hehe
[11:59] <bencrisford> xteejx: upgrades do mess up wireless drivers
[11:59] <bencrisford> intrepid+madwifi worked for me
[11:59] <bencrisford> jaunty+madwifi didnt :/
[12:00] <xteejx> same here, totally broken with ar5007 since karmic
[12:00] <bencrisford> xteejx: i dont really get whats going on with my wireless in lucid :P
[12:00] <bencrisford> first few boots it alternated between working and not working :P
[12:00] <bencrisford> i didnt mind, because a reboot only takes something silly like 30 seconds now
[12:01] <bencrisford> but after the first few reboots, it worked all the time
[12:01] <xteejx> typical - mine shows up in the applet but doesn't scan or anything, tried manually setting wifi AP but nothing :(
[12:01] <xteejx> yeah gotta love Lucid, looking good so far and v fast
[12:01] <bencrisford> yeah
[12:02] <bencrisford> xteejx: you gonna be around on tuesday for the edubuntu/ubuntu collab. bug day?
[12:02] <xteejx> what time?
[12:02] <bencrisford> xteejx: http://benc235.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/edubuntu-bug-day/
[12:03] <xteejx> Coder, gamer, geek haha like it
[12:03] <bencrisford> :P
[12:03] <bencrisford> it was "Just another Wordpress weblog" so i had to change it to something
[12:03] <xteejx> hehe
[12:03] <xteejx> I should be around all day Tuesday, any time you're starting?
[12:04] <bencrisford> xteejx: i dont know exactly
[12:05] <bencrisford> 10am GMT sounds good to me :), ill talk it over with the edubuntu peeps
[12:05] <xteejx> well youre in the UK right so I'll be in around 10-11am ish so just buzz me
[12:05] <bencrisford> :)
[12:05] <xteejx> I do remember writing the comment on ur wiki page for referral for a @ubuntu.com address lol ;)
[12:05] <bencrisford> xteejx: oh yeah :), thanks for that
[12:06] <bencrisford> i wasnt approved for membership in the end
[12:06] <xteejx> hehe no probs
[12:06] <bencrisford> got +0s, they wanted to see more
[12:07] <bencrisford> but i dont really care about getting membership anymore
[12:07] <bencrisford> contributing isnt about getting a posh email address and getting your blog on planet :P
[12:07] <bencrisford> its about making a difference :)
[12:07] <xteejx> I beg to differ, they're both good ;)
[12:08] <bencrisford> xteejx: a bit like saving up money to buy a sports car, and saving up to give to charity
[12:09] <bencrisford> getting both would be awesome.  but ones more important than the other..
[12:09] <xteejx> you can't drive a sports car lol :P
[12:09] <xteejx> its mine!
[12:26] <mocikz> hmm actually, the wifi seems to work better now, after restart
[12:26] <bencrisford> mocikz: is it working completely now?
[12:29] <mocikz> it would seem so, no problems since 15+ minutes
[12:29] <mocikz> I will test more
[12:42] <bencrisford> mocikz: :)
[12:51] <efojewof> hello
[13:14] <Annaa> http://tinypic.zapto.org/2kn4m8.png?t=1270382783 do my breasts look to big?
[13:14] <xteejx> No, they look like a penis...
[13:14] <xteejx> oops
[13:17] <xteejx> sorry about that guys wrong window!!
[13:17] <xteejx> was talking in pvt to someone else accidentally tabbed here :(
[13:27] <mocikz> well confirmed, bencrisford it works now
[13:27] <mocikz> perhaps installer of  that  firewallcuter   driver  should   request a restart
[13:27] <mocikz> please report a bug for it
[14:04] <pandora> HI can some one try to reproduce this bug?
[14:04] <pandora> I'm doing some testing..
[14:05] <pandora> Install bash-completion package
[14:05] <pandora> then uncomment last lines in ~/.bashrc
[14:05] <pandora> (the lines that source the bash-completion stuff)
[14:05] <pandora> then restart session
[14:05] <pandora> can you still login?
[14:08] <pandora> the bug is #494394
[14:09] <BlackZ> buh #494394
[14:09] <BlackZ> bug #494394
[14:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 494394 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Cannot login with gdm after upgrading to lucid (affects: 4) (heat: 22)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494394
[14:11] <BlackZ> pandora: please, explain there how to reproduce the bug, thanks
[14:11] <pandora> 1) Install bash-completion package
[14:12] <BlackZ> pandora: explain in the bug report that
[14:12] <pandora> yes i'm doind that..
[14:12] <pandora> five mins..
[14:15] <pandora> done..
[14:15] <pandora> please try top reproduce the bug..
[14:16] <pandora> i'm restarting.. ill be bask soon
[14:16] <BlackZ> pandora: I will look at it later
[14:19] <pandora> i'm back..
[14:19] <pandora> can someone give a try to bug #494394
[14:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 494394 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Cannot login with gdm after upgrading to lucid (affects: 4) (heat: 22)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494394
 pandora: I will look at it later
[14:20] <BlackZ> also, please, be patient
[14:20] <pandora> ok, :)
[14:29] <BlackZ> pandora: however it's already confirmed
[14:30] <pandora> well, i've first confirmed it because i was experiencing it, but as i maybe found what is causing, i wanted that someone test it..
[14:33] <BlackZ> nigelb: ping
[14:33] <nigelb> pong
[14:33] <BlackZ> nigelb: could you take a look at bug #494394 ?
[14:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 494394 in gdm (Ubuntu) "Cannot login with gdm after upgrading to lucid (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494394
[14:33] <nigelb> BlackZ, looking
[14:33] <BlackZ> nigelb: thank you
[14:35] <nigelb> BlackZ, I dont run lucid, so I don't think I can help test
[14:36] <BlackZ> nigelb: ok, thanks the same
[14:40] <BlackZ> pandora: which version of gdm do you have? 2.29.1-0ubuntu3?
[14:41] <pandora> 2.30.0-0ubuntu3
[14:42] <BlackZ> pandora: and have you still problems with the last one?
[14:42] <pandora> yes
[14:42] <pandora> everything started when i set up bash completion
[15:21] <BlackZ> pandora: commented
[15:23] <BUGabundo> Easter Afternuun :P
[15:24] <nigelb> BUGabundo, back from vacations?
[15:24] <BUGabundo> nope
[15:25] <BUGabundo> one more week to go
[15:25] <pandora> blackz: ok, fine, maybe it's an upgrade related problem.. did you source .bashrc in .profile?
[15:25] <BlackZ> pandora: sure
[15:29] <pandora> blackz: ok.. thanks for testing..
[15:30] <nigelb> BUGa_vacations, how lucky :)
[21:40] <bencrisford> !info gnome
[21:40] <ubot4> bencrisford: gnome (source: meta-gnome2): The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.22.2~4ubuntu8 (karmic), package size 1 kB, installed size 44 kB
[21:41] <bencrisford> !help
[21:41] <ubot4> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[21:52] <micahg> !msgthebot > bencrisford
[21:52] <ubot4> bencrisford, please see my private message
[21:53] <bencrisford> micahg: ah ty, sorry, i was trying to work out how to get him to tell me about gnome in lucid rather than karmic, but i couldnt work it out :/
[21:55] <micahg> bencrisford: ! info gnome lucid
[21:55] <bencrisford> micahg: thanks :)
[22:08] <crimsun> argh
[22:08] <crimsun> people don't actually read bug reports :(
[22:08] <crimsun> e.g., bug 554488
[22:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 554488 in linux (Ubuntu) "0x104d9008 needs vaio quirk for audible sound on lucid live cd (affects: 2) (heat: 8)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554488
[22:08] <crimsun> this is precisely the sort of "blast my apport-collect info into an unrelated bug report" that I decried on my blog :(
[22:09] <BUGa_vacations> crimsun: I must confess.... I usually discard question in bug mail if not addressed to ME!
[22:09] <BUGa_vacations> crimsun: file a bug on apport and LP to have a flag saying NO MORE apports
[22:09] <BUGa_vacations> :P
[22:10] <BUGa_vacations> so if it is tagged "does NOT need apport" , apport refuses to upload
[22:10] <BUGa_vacations> WIN
[22:15] <micahg> BUGa_vacations: already it was added a warning if it's not your own bug
[22:16] <BUGa_vacations> add a bigger flashy one :P
[22:37] <pandora> hi, A question..
[22:37] <BUGa_vacations> !ask | pandora
[22:37] <ubot4> pandora: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[22:39] <pandora> what should i do (answer, set status, ..) when some user reports a bug requesting that a particular version of a program to be included in lucid? (sorry for english.. aaarggh)
[22:39] <pandora> bug 555082
[22:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 555082 in hedgewars (Ubuntu) "new version 0.9.13 released ... ppp (pretty please package) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/555082
[22:40] <micahg> pandora: check and see if it's packaged in debian, if yes, change to sync or merge request, but don't change status
[22:41] <micahg> pandora: and come in here and ask someone to mark wishlist importance
[22:42] <pandora> micahg: ok, how to "change to sync or merge request" in lp?
[22:42] <micahg> pandora: just modify the title
[22:42]  * micahg hunts for wiki page
[22:43] <micahg> pandora: merge title syntax: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging#File%20a%20merge%20bug
[22:44] <micahg> pandora: sync is the same except it's sync instead of merge
[22:45] <micahg> pandora: the difference is merge is usually needed if the package in ubuntu has an ubuntu suffix like -XubuntuX
[22:46] <pandora> ok... what if debian package does not exists?
[22:47] <micahg> pandora: then just ask that it be set as wishlist
[22:50] <pandora> ok, so here it is, bug 555082, should be set as whishlist..
[22:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 555082 in hedgewars (Ubuntu) "new version 0.9.13 released ... ppp (pretty please package) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/555082
[22:51] <micahg> pandora: there's already a debian bug open for the update that I just added