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kobrienRoAkSoAx: doesn't it bind to localhost by default on ipv4?00:21
amanda_i need lots of help01:36
kobrienamanda_: state the issue01:37
amanda_i cant get sound01:38
amanda_i hear it faintly in the speakers but there is no way to turn it up all of the volume controols are all the way up and i know its not the speakers01:39
amanda_I know nothing about linux im very very new to it01:39
kobrienamanda_: the support channel is #ubuntu01:39
amanda_ok how do i get to that01:39
kobrientype /join #ubuntu01:39
kobrienyou could also try the ubuntu forums01:40
kobrienhere is the beginner forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=32601:40
kobrienwith the beginners guide. enjoy.01:41
lfaraoneIf two bzr branches (from Debian and Ubuntu) have no common ancestor, how can I merge them together? (I want to discard all ubuntu changes other than the changelog, ideally)02:32
lfaraone(since the ubuntu delta can be dropped)02:33
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wrapster in the postinst script i cannot execute how do i execute shell commands?coz one in particular called 'update-ca-certificates' fails if written inside the postinst script.06:02
wrapsterbut anywhere else if i write its working fine.06:02
wrapsterhttp://pastie.org/900511;there is a part of the script.06:02
wrapsterhttp://pastie.org/90051106:03
wrapsterthats the link06:03
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geserwrapster: you have to figure out why it fails. Try adding set -x near the top of the update-ca-certificates so see where (and perhaps why) it fails.08:38
arandI find myself apt-getting build-deps, copying the "will be installed" output from apt (and sedding it to get a nice pasteable package list) to be able to remove these again when the build is completed, is there a better way to do this?10:11
_rubenarand: when using for instance pbuilder, that'll be automated for you10:23
arand_ruben: Indeed, but outside it's worse, seems like there are no real good *simple* ways, if one is preemptive one can always do "apt-get --simulate build-dep xxx|grep "^Inst"|awk '{print $2}' | tr -s '\n' ' ' > deps_remove" but it's not properly convenient...10:27
_rubenarand: the more reason to use utils like pbuilder? :)10:28
arand_ruben: true...10:29
_rubeni either use a pbuilder machine, or scrap boxes where i dont care about any (build)packages being left behind10:31
Annaahttp://tinypic.zapto.org/2kn4m8.png?t=1270382236 do my breasts look to big?13:05
arandstgraber: I've been poking a bit in getting your fix for pastebin.com into earlier pastebinit. Karmic and Jaunty seems ok, but Hardy's version is giving me troubles, anyways, what I've got so far is up on Bug #526849 .13:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 526849 in pastebinit "pastes to pastebin.com no longer work" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52684913:30
ari-tczewbdrung: ping14:28
bdrungari-tczew: pong14:29
ari-tczewbdrung: you have done 2 SRUs for me, but these packages doesn't exist yet, what happens?14:30
bdrungari-tczew: they have to be accepted. look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+queue?queue_state=114:31
bdrung(or similar)14:31
ari-tczewbdrung: when these packages will be moved to release/updates?14:32
bdrungari-tczew: first they have to be accepted, then they appear in -proposed, after verification (done in the bug report) they are copied to -updates after some time14:33
ari-tczewok thanks14:34
nigelbcan someone help me make sense of this? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42069188/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.vlc_1.0.5-2ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:41
nigelbI wanted to get it into ubuntu but it isn't building14:41
nigelbthe only delta from current version is an extra translation to the .desktop file14:42
james_wnigelb: looks to be missing an #include in at least the the first .h file mentioned14:43
nigelbjames_w, but, how did it build for the repos?14:43
james_wnigelb: it's possible the compiler version changed if it wasn't built recently14:47
james_wgcc gets stricter each release14:48
nigelboooh.  lemme hunt for whats missing :)14:48
hyperairjames_w: could you ack banshee 1.6.0-1 please?14:54
james_wnot right now14:54
hyperairmm do we have some kind of freeze that prevents this?14:54
nigelbbeta 2 freeze right?14:54
* hyperair thought beta freezes only applied to main package14:54
hyperairs14:54
nigelbI have like 3 or 4 bugs waiting for thursday :)14:55
james_whyperair: no, I was just about to leave :-)14:55
hyperairjames_w: ah okay nevermind then =p14:55
james_wI can't see the bug, where is it?14:56
hyperairer i dputted using syncpackage.14:56
hyperair"[ubuntu/lucid] banshee 1.6.0-1 (Waiting for approval)"14:56
james_wthen it's caught by the beta freeze14:56
james_wit will get waved through soon enough14:57
hyperairi see. okay, thanks.14:57
nigelbhyperair, "-queuebot/#ubuntu-release- New package: banshee (universe) [1.5.6-1 → 1.6.0-1]"14:58
hyperairnigelb: what's that?15:01
* hyperair has never heard of this queuebot15:01
nigelbjoin #ubuntu-release15:01
nigelbits the bot that resides there15:01
hyperairaah15:02
hyperairso is it supposed to be acked by an ubuntu-release person or an archive admin now?15:02
* nigelb looks to wiki15:03
nigelbI think yes for main https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess15:04
hyperair=\15:05
hyperairi really meant to ask which one =\15:05
* nigelb is you clueless, you're the MOTU here :D15:06
ScottKhyperair: Is there an FFe for banshee?15:08
sebnerScottK: only bugfixes. from RC to final15:12
ScottKOh, OK.15:14
ScottK1.5.6-1 → 1.6.0-1 did not look like an RC from just the numbers.15:15
hyperair1.5.1 upwards was beta15:15
hyperair1.6.0 is the final number15:15
sebnerScottK: nvm, 1.5.x was everything from beta to RC :D15:15
ScottKIt's in.15:15
hyperairfinal version*15:15
hyperairthanks15:15
ScottKRight, if one isn't familiar with Banshee development, that's not clear.15:15
ScottKhyperair: If it's a bug fix only release, it's helpful to mention that in debian/changelog.15:16
hyperairScottK: ah okay, i'll do that next time.15:16
ScottKThanks.15:16
sebnerScottK: \o/15:22
mhall119I need some MOTU help15:55
mhall119I have 3 new packages that I would like to get included in Lucid15:55
nigelbmhall119, a bit too late.  now you need FFE for them15:55
mhall119Packages are in REVU, bugs are in Launchpad, I attached the orginal upstream and .diff.gz15:55
mhall119nigelb: I know, that's what I'm working on15:55
nhandlermhall119: Why do you need them?15:55
mhall119nhandler: they are for Qimo, and the Edubuntu guys were wanting them for their release too15:56
mhall119it's mostly artwork15:56
mhall119but also an X session startup script15:56
mhall119so I have the packages, I have the bug, I subscribed ubuntu-release to the  bug15:57
mhall119I attached the diffs and original packages to the bug report15:57
mhall119and described each package in the comments15:57
mhall119is there anything else I need to do for FFE?15:57
nigelbbuild log and install log?15:57
nigelboh wait, not needed :)15:58
mhall119nothing's being compiled15:58
mhall119the only non-artwork are shell scripts15:58
mhall119and config files15:58
nigelbmhall119, bribe nhandler :D15:58
mhall119I'll let him borrow cjohnston some more if he gets me an exception ;)15:59
sistpotybuild log is needed, even if nothing is compiled (still a binary package from a source package is created, right?)15:59
mhall119highvoltage and stgraber were helping me with packaging15:59
mhall119sistpoty: no16:00
nhandlernigelb: He'll want to bribe an Archive Admin. They need to push it through NEW. Can you post some bug numbers mhall119 ?16:00
mhall119sistpoty: the only binaries are images16:00
nigelbmhall119, no.. what he meant is.. isn't a deb created?16:00
sistpotymhall119: but they live in a binary package?16:00
mhall119bug 52272016:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 522720 in qimo "[needs-packaging] qimo-session" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52272016:00
mhall119bug 52272916:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 522729 in qimo "[needs-packaging] qimo-games" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52272916:00
sistpoty(otherwise I'd immediately reject the FFe :P)16:00
mhall119bug 52273116:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 522731 in qimo "[needs-packaging] qimo-wallpaper" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52273116:00
mhall119sistpoty: I'm not sure what you mean16:00
nhandlermhall119: Why are they Fix Committed?16:01
sistpotymhall119: you upload a source package to launchpad, and there a binary package (.deb) is created. otherwise noone can install your package ;)16:01
mhall119because I dput them in revu, should I not have done that?16:01
mhall119sistpoty: I uploaded the source package to revu16:01
nhandlermhall119: They still need to get reviewed and acked by developers in addition to the FFe16:01
mhall119nhandler: I know, I'm trying to find reviewers, like I said highvoltage and stgraber had been helping me16:02
mhall119but with it being Easter weekend and all....16:02
nigelbmhall119, can give me a revu link?  I'll try to get a build log16:02
mhall119http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/qimo-session16:02
mhall119http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/qimo-games16:03
mhall119http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/qimo-wallpaper16:03
nigelbnhandler, shouldn't the bugs be opened against ubuntu and not in qemo project?16:03
mhall119I didn't know, I just put them in my project16:03
nhandlernigelb: Yes. I missed that part.16:03
mhall119nhandler: should I add Ubuntu to "Also affects distribution"?16:04
sistpotyFFe bug should somehow show up in our worklist (that is bugs of state new, with ubuntu-release as subscriber) ;)16:04
mhall119sistpoty: ok, I'll set them back to new16:04
sistpotymhall119: thanks16:05
mhall119okay, if it's "new" in ubuntu, can I leave it "fix committed" in qimo?16:05
sistpotymhall119: sure16:05
mhall119ok, done16:07
nigelbmhall119, building16:07
mhall119thanks everyone for helping me16:08
nigelbit builds.. I'll attach a log to the bug16:08
mhall119thanks nigelb16:12
mhall119should I put a comment in the bugs stating why i think these packages should be included in a FFE?16:13
nigelbmhall119, I've added one build log.  will finish the others in a few minutes :)16:15
mhall119thanks16:16
mhall119is there anything I need to do to let ubuntu-release know I'm asking for a FFE?16:23
nigelbsistpoty, don't you generally ask for screenshots, etc?16:32
sistpotynigelb: screenhots are a good way to demonstrate that you've tested the packages16:33
nigelbmhall119, ^16:33
mhall119screenshots of what?16:35
nigelbyour package in lucid16:36
mhall119it's not a single program though16:36
sebnerhuhu sistpoty :)16:36
mhall119it's an X session + artwork + game dependencies16:36
sistpotyhi sebner16:36
mhall119I have screenshots of it running, build on one of the Lucid Alphas16:37
mhall119but it won't look like Lucid16:37
mhall119it'll look like Qimo16:37
nigelbisnt that the whole point of the package?16:37
mhall119yes, I'm just not sure what a screenshot of it is going to contribute to reviewers16:38
nigelbgenerally shows that it installs sucessfuly16:38
mhall119okay, you want just a screenshot of the desktop?16:39
mhall119like this http://qimo4kids.com/image.axd?picture=2010%2f2%2fAlpha2Screenshot.png16:39
nigelbmhall119, is this what happens when installing the session package?16:39
mhall119not immediately, no16:40
mhall119you have to pick "Qimo Session" from GDM16:40
nigelbyeah, well this is the package at work?16:40
nigelbif so, helps, put it in16:40
mhall119nigelb: yes, that's the package at work16:40
mhall119sistpoty: should I "Nominate for Release" to Lucid in the Ubuntu bug?16:42
sistpotymhall119: no, we use FFe bugs instead of nominations to handle FFe's16:42
mhall119sistpoty: is there anything I need to do to label these as FFe bugs?16:47
mhall119also, I added a screenshot to bug 52272016:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 522720 in qimo/2.0 "[needs-packaging] qimo-session" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52272016:47
sistpotymhall119: no, already showing up in the queue16:47
mhall119ok16:48
mhall119sistpoty: if there's anything I'm missing, just let me know and I'll get is ASAP16:50
sistpotymhall119: you're missing someone with time to review the FFe ;) (sorry, gotta run myself now)16:51
sistpoty<- afk, cya16:52
mhall119I know, I just got my final artwork in a few days ago16:52
mhall119thanks for all the help sistpoty16:52
sistpotyyw16:52
mhall119and nigelb and nhandler16:52
nigelbnp  :)16:52
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lfaraoneIf two bzr branches (from Debian and Ubuntu) have no common ancestor, how can I merge them together? (I want to discard all ubuntu changes other than the changelog, ideally)17:33
lfaraone(since the ubuntu delta can be dropped)17:33
geserlfaraone: why merge if only the changelog remains? that sounds like a sync17:35
lfaraonegeser: well, we also need to change the epoch.17:35
lfaraone(aside: would it be worthwhile to ask debian to increment the epoch as well so we can avoid this in the future? )17:37
geseryou could at least try17:37
geserand I have no idea how to merge if both branches have no common ancestor17:38
james_wlfaraone: which package?17:50
lfaraonejames_w: squeak-vm, which was just dropped from the archive for FTBFS17:50
lfaraone(I think I saw a ub-devel-announce email about it)17:50
lfaraonejames_w: bug 55272017:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 552720 in squeak-vm "please merge 3.11.3+svn2147-1 from Debian testing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55272017:51
maxbHow much point is there in retaining the Ubuntu history at this point?17:53
nigelbwouldn't just sync-ing the debian package be enough?17:53
nigelbthe changelog would be preserved anyway I think17:53
maxb1) syncs don't preserve changelogs17:54
maxb2) apparently there's an epoch change needed17:54
nigelbah17:54
lfaraonemaxb: yes, Ubuntu has an epoch of 1 whereas Debian has no epoch.17:54
maxbthat sucks17:54
maxbUnfortunately there's no way to fix that17:56
maxbUnless the Debian maintainer is feeling very generous indeed and willing to accept a needless epoch in their package to work around Ubuntu's mistake17:57
james_wanyway, you can merge unrelated branches with "bzr merge -r0..-1 other-branch"18:02
lfaraonejames_w: okay, thanks.18:03
lfaraonegreat, 148 conflicts.,18:24
lfaraoneFor some reason dput is not including the orig.tar.gz in my upload. How can I fix that?19:08
lfaraone(to a PPA)19:08
ScottKlfaraone: -S -sa19:09
lfaraoneImplicit pointer conversion is fatal on PPA builds, is it the same way for the Ubuntu archive?19:41
lfaraone( re https://edge.launchpad.net/~lfaraone/+archive/ppa/+build/1625819/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.squeak-vm_1:3.11.3+svn2147-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz )19:41
ScottKShould be.19:41
geseryes, it's fatal on amd6419:42
geserlfaraone: the problem is "warning: implicit declaration of function" which can be fixed by including the missing header for the declaration19:46
lfaraonegeser: okay. my apologies, I know absolutely no C.19:48
ScottKlfaraone: I don't either, but Google can usually help you figure out which one is missing.19:49
geserlfaraone: give me a minute and I might have a patch for this for you20:00
nigelbcan someone with c foo help me with http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42069188/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.vlc_1.0.5-2ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ?20:02
lfaraonegeser: thanks :)20:02
ScottKnigelb: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-814334-start-0.html20:04
nigelbScottK, ouch.  nothing can be done?20:05
ScottKnigelb: https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/318520:05
ScottKnigelb: BTW, I have no C foo, those are in the top few Google hits on that error.20:05
gesernigelb: give me a moment to find the right headers for you20:06
nigelbScottK, ugh! I always forgot to look in google20:06
mdeslaurnigelb, ScottK: there seems to be a patch for newer xulrunner support in the following gentoo bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29031820:06
nigelbgeser, thank you :)20:06
ubottubugs.gentoo.org bug 290318 in Applications "media-video/vlc broken nsplugin support with xulrunner-1.9.2*" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]20:06
mdeslaurnigelb: http://cvs.rpmfusion.org/viewvc/rpms/vlc/devel/vlc-1.0.4-xulrunner-192.patch?revision=1.1&root=free&view=markup20:06
sebnergeser is tehh workhorse! :D20:07
kobrienI'm a C coder, can i be of assistance?20:10
nigelbgeser, http://cvs.rpmfusion.org/viewvc/rpms/vlc/devel/vlc-1.0.4-xulrunner-192.patch?revision=1.1&root=free&view=markup looks sane?20:10
nigelbmdeslaur, that was a lot of reading material :)20:11
nigelbthanks20:11
gesernigelb: yes, from a quick look (at least it should fix some errors)20:12
nigelbgeser, thanks, I'll try a build with that patch :)20:12
ScottKkobrien: We can always use help.20:13
kobrienScottK: :) cool20:15
ScottKgeser: Got any C stuff kobrien could help on?20:15
ScottKlucas: Since taktuk would build with the autotools-dev we have in Lucid (and it's way too late to update it), what's your plan to fix it?20:16
nigelbScottK, kobrien: we could always use help with patch review :)20:16
ScottKnigelb: Could you help kobrien get started?20:16
nigelbScottK, sure :)20:17
nigelbkobrien, here's the link to reviewers team wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam20:17
kobriennigelb: ok, lets see20:18
nigelbkobrien, and here's the reviewers queue.  if you feel you can understand a patch, pick it, test it, and review according to review guide https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-reviewers/+subscribedbugs20:18
kobriennigelb: cool20:19
geserkobrien: if you look for some C/C++ related problems to fix: search http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi for "invalid conversion"20:19
geserkobrien: e.g. http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~lucas/ubuntu-nbs/32/vdr-plugin-epgsearch_0.9.24-3_llucid32.buildlog or http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~lucas/ubuntu-nbs/32/vdr-plugin-extrecmenu_1.1-8build1_llucid32.buildlog20:19
geserthere are some more20:19
lucasScottK: it's probably quite easy to fix taktuk to build with an older autotools-dev20:19
geserI don't know how hard or easy they are to fix20:20
kobrieni've applied for membership of the reviewers team20:21
ScottKlucas: Could you take that on or find someone to manage it?20:22
lucasScottK: yes, will do20:22
ScottKlucas: Thanks.20:22
lucasScottK: you care about taktuk?20:22
ScottKlucas: No.  Autofoo and I don't get along.20:22
lfaraonegeser: back, sorry, had to restart.20:30
geserlfaraone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/409193/ this should fix the FTBFS21:05
gesersomeone more familiar with the source might have a better fix for it21:05
geserand contact upstream that they should also fix the other implicit declarations21:06
lfaraonegeser: thanks, building in PPA now.21:31
lfaraonewhat's the best way to detect at build-time if a package is being built for Ubuntu?21:40
c_kornlfaraone: if [ "$(lsb_release -is)" = "Ubuntu" ] ; then echo blub ; fi21:41
lfaraonec_korn: hm. I tried to use http://paste.ubuntu.com/409201/ in my rules file, but when I sent it off for PPA building it looks like the "else" code was executed.21:42
c_kornlfaraone: you need the quotes21:43
lfaraonec_korn: mk. would it be worth reuploading to Debian to fix that (I'm DM) so we can sync rather than merge,21:45
lfaraone... or is that too trivial.21:45
c_kornlfaraone: I am not a MOTU actually. but syncing is always easier than merging.21:46
c_kornI already included that in the scilab package in Debian21:46
c_korns/already/also/21:47
lfaraonegeser: there's one error remaining: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43108938/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.squeak-vm_1%3A3.11.3%2Bsvn2147-1ubuntu1.pp1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz22:07
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lfaraonec_korn: very odd: unless I'm reading https://edge.launchpad.net/~lfaraone/+archive/ppa/+build/1625944 wrong, https://edge.launchpad.net/~lfaraone/+archive/ppa/+build/1625944/+files/autokey_0.61.7-2~preppa1_all.deb is depending on  "-qt", when it should be "-gtk" on Ubuntu. ( DSC: https://edge.launchpad.net/~lfaraone/+archive/ppa/+files/autokey_0.61.7-2~preppa1.dsc)22:39
lfaraonec_korn: (I changed to the test you provided)22:39
c_kornlfaraone: just add an echo command to see which branch it takes22:40
lfaraonec_korn: so I'd write at the end, "echo debian/autokey.substvars contains `cat debian/autokey.substvars`", right?22:41
c_kornecho akdefaulttype=gtk | tee debian/autokey.substvars;22:42
lfaraonec_korn: per http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43113334/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.autokey_0.61.7-2~preppa3_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz , it's expanding the lsb_release command to ""23:06
c_korntry with: if [ "$$(lsb_release -is)" = "Ubuntu" ] ; then23:08
c_kornif [ "$$(lsb_release --id -s)" = "Ubuntu" ] ; then23:10
c_kornI use this successfully in the scilab package23:10

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