[22:15] <videorechner> hi, I am looking for a arm cortex a9 board but there seems to be none, that doesnt cost a fortune or isnt available, but today, I found this one: http://www.kmckk.co.jp/eng/kzmca9/index.html does someone know more about that?
[22:15] <DanaG> hmm, is beagleboard an a9?
[22:18] <DanaG> oh, I see...
[22:18] <DanaG> that's multi-core.
[22:18] <videorechner> beagle is omap 3xxx
[22:18] <videorechner> cortex a8
[22:19] <DanaG> ah.
[22:22] <prpplague> DanaG: omap4 is cortex-a9 dual core
[22:22] <DanaG> Is that what the beagle-XM will have?
[22:22] <prpplague> no
[22:23] <prpplague> DanaG: detail info on the new features of the xm - http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/6604a0debf003c8a
[22:24] <DanaG> I do find it a bit of a bummer that they didn't expose the USB+LAN chip's 15 GPIOs.
[22:24] <prpplague> DanaG: why?
[22:24] <videorechner> I heard arm cpus are missing a smp unit, what does that mean in consequence?
[22:24] <DanaG> It would be nifty to be able to use an expansion board and still have a bunch of gpios.
[22:26] <prpplague> DanaG: but you have a bunch of gpios already
[22:26] <DanaG> Muxed with other stuff, though.
[22:27] <prpplague> videorechner: the cores act independently in many way
[22:27] <prpplague> DanaG: can you give me an example of a case condition?
[22:27] <DanaG> I was more just theorizing, actually.
[22:27] <DanaG> Right now I don't use GPIOs at all, anyway/ =þ
[22:28] <videorechner> prpplague but ubuntu can handle them like any other dual core?
[22:28] <DanaG> hmm, what boards actually do have the dual-core ARM?
[22:28] <prpplague> DanaG: it would be much much easier for you to use a i2c gpio expander than try to use the gpios on the lan9514
[22:28] <DanaG> Looks like XM will still be single-core.
[22:28] <prpplague> videorechner: i do not know currenty
[22:29] <prpplague> DanaG: correct
[22:29] <DanaG> I'm interested in the Marvell 1.2GHz ARM stuff, also.
[22:30] <XorA|gone> http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/02/17/texas-instruments-omap4-blaze-twin-screens-android-and-a-projector/
[22:30] <XorA|gone> thats dual core
[22:30] <XorA|gone> and a very sweet bit of kit
[22:31] <prpplague> XorA|gone: toooooooo bulky, hehe
[22:31] <DanaG> heh, I was pondering replacing the sucky samsung netbook with a better HP one (5102) or that Onkyo DX dual-1366x768 thingy... then I tried an SSD and realized that'd be more useful.
[22:32] <XorA|gone> prpplague: well your the board dude, shrink it to the size of my Touch HD2 :-D
[22:32] <prpplague> XorA|gone: hehe
[22:33] <comradekingu> Who had sufficient lack of decency enough to make a bezel for that abomination.
[22:33] <comradekingu> ???
[22:35] <comradekingu> It goes without saying you can make cases for stuff. What idea are they pitching, "ready for market"? "Dual vertical span with separation in between on a phone is a good idea"?
[22:36] <prpplague> comradekingu: for which item are you refering?
[22:36] <comradekingu> http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/02/17/texas-instruments-omap4-blaze-twin-screens-android-and-a-projector/0
[22:36] <comradekingu> http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/02/17/texas-instruments-omap4-blaze-twin-screens-android-and-a-projector/
[22:36] <prpplague> comradekingu: ahh right, there were very specific reasons for the size and shape
[22:37] <comradekingu> prpplague: Im guessing the gold trim has its reasons too, but come on...
[22:38] <prpplague> comradekingu: i think that was just for show, all the ones i've seen are all black
[22:39] <comradekingu> prpplague: Actually it was the colour that made me want to keep my eyes closed.
[22:40] <prpplague> comradekingu: if you could get your ultimate OMAP4 board what would be?
[22:41] <comradekingu> Pandora?
[22:41] <comradekingu> no, thats OMAP3
[22:42] <prpplague> comradekingu: i mean feature wise, is a case really that important ?
[22:43] <comradekingu> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Wonderswan_color-JD.jpg
[22:45] <comradekingu> Feature wise id like displayport, other than that just the usual stuff
[22:46] <prpplague> comradekingu: what type?
[22:47] <DanaG> My ultimate ARM device of any sort: take HP Mini 5102, stick a 1.2GHz ARM in it, and have open graphics (or at least closed graphics with build scripts that don't suck).
[22:47] <DanaG> "suck" being "tries to 'make clean' on a target workdir that doesn't exist".
[22:47] <prpplague> DanaG: hehe, trustme i know all too well
[22:47] <prpplague> common them here is having a case
[22:47] <comradekingu> prpplague: From what i remember the only useful feature of DP 1.2 was daisy-chaining displays
[22:48] <prpplague> comradekingu: hdmi?
[22:48] <DanaG> The PowerVR stuff makes NV installer look "wonderful", in comparison.
[22:48] <prpplague> comradekingu: dvi-i ?
[22:50] <comradekingu> prpplague: Rather save the cash for something cool
[22:50] <prpplague> comradekingu: ??
[22:50] <comradekingu> Ultimate has to be unencumbered by lousy standards imo
[22:51] <prpplague> comradekingu: which standard is lousy?
[22:51] <comradekingu> hdmi
[22:51] <prpplague> comradekingu: interesting
[22:53] <comradekingu> Someone over at the hdmi consortium envisioned i would want to buy a 250$ soundcard to send undecoded audio to a reciever, a task which can only be done by one special release of a proprietary app on a proprietary system.
[22:54] <comradekingu> They can keep all their 8CH audio for all i care, i wont support it.
[22:54] <DanaG> I'd rather just have a good sound card in the PC.
[22:55] <DanaG> And a decent set of speakers (my Logitech Z-5300 are decent, once you turn the sub on its side so the port sits against carpet).
[23:47] <ogra__> plars, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/linux-image-2.6.33-500-omap_2.6.33-500.4_armel.deb that has the USB patch from the bug, please test and comment on the bug