[10:44] <vish> dashua: hehe , you were just having fun , werent ya > http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42237268/out.ogv  ;p
[10:55] <dashua> vish, Ha yeah.  Just a bit.  Was demonstrating the metacity fixes on the button bg's. :)
[10:58] <dashua> The fix is my PPA if it hasn't hit Lucid yet.
[10:59] <vish> yeah , that was a good fix
[10:59] <darkmatter> vish: have you seen the new "Metro" ui for the widows phone 7 series? it looks pretty slick
[11:00] <darkmatter> windows*
[11:00] <vish> darkmatter: yeah , _sabdfl_ had blogged about it too o.0
[11:00]  * darkmatter likes
[11:03] <darkmatter> especially the tile flipping thing that lets you do crazy stuff like flip over a contact and text them on the back of their card
[11:04] <vish> darkmatter: is there a vid or a working version? i just read the slides
[11:04] <vish> s/or/of
[11:05] <darkmatter> vish: I haven't seen one around, but I'm still looking
[11:07] <darkmatter> found a promo video, but those don't count :P
[11:18] <darkmatter> vish: found one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dM4X-KveSs
[11:22] <vish> ty
[11:22] <darkmatter> np
[11:23]  * vish for some reason cant stop laughing when he looks at steve ballmer ;p
[11:24] <darkmatter> I've always leaned toward that more 'webby' feel in ui metaphors, probably explains why I like that ui so much :P
[11:32] <darkmatter> vish: that phone reveal actually shows a decent example of what I'm talking about when I ramble on about data convergence. take their pictures library for example. regardless of the source, all pictures are shown their. be they flickr, live, facebook, locally stored, whatever
[11:34] <vish> ah
[11:34] <vish> i like the live title , they seem to work pretty well
[11:34] <vish> live tiles*
[11:37] <darkmatter> vish: basically, aside from the hated but necessary web-browsery-thingy, I think the internet should be provided as a service/framework and should be plugged in to the user environment at more of a core level, and various bit's are sorted to where they should be according to what they are
[11:39] <vish> darkmatter: internet should be free and unlimited ;)  .. even on phones..  i think finland made broadband a basic right
[11:39] <darkmatter> and not just personal data/networking/etc, web searches, mapping, et al
[11:40] <darkmatter> vish: aye
[11:40] <darkmatter> vish: but you get the picture I should think
[11:41] <vish> darkmatter: yeah , that is actually how everything should work..  no need to forget when i left/stored my whatever files
[11:42] <sanderqd> that's more easily solved by just putting everything in the web browser than by 'plugging the internet in the desktop'
[11:43] <darkmatter> vish: like one of the ideas I borrowed and modified conceptually. the whole enzo/ubiquity thingy, but as the run dialog. think of something like do, but not limited to local crap
[11:44]  * vish bbiab
[11:50] <darkmatter> sanderqd: if by 'easy' you mean 'lazy' then yeah. :P but the networking bit is only a part of the whole. I've been wasting my time on the design and engineering long enough to state with utmost certainty that browser = fail in this specific case (and most others). the reason being something about "half-assed implementations" ;)
[12:16] <sanderqd> darkmatter: google also has quite some experience with design and engineering :-)
[12:20] <darkmatter> never said they didn't. I said specifics vary. it's all about the implementation. google is cloud crazy because google wants to control the ebb and flow of data ;)
[12:43] <vish> darkmatter: interesting ui > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3OUG93qZ0Q&feature=channel
[12:45] <darkmatter> a fan ui. that is cool. only potential drawback I can think of is that it is perhaps too linear
[12:48] <vish> weirdly though i'm right-handed , i find holding the phone in my left hand more easier o.0
[12:50] <darkmatter> vish: http://www.fallon.com/skimmer
[12:57] <darkmatter> vish: it's nothing earthshattering, but it looks like a nice app
[12:58] <vish> darkmatter: ah! i was wondering what awesomeness i was missing... looks nice indeed :)
[13:02] <darkmatter> vish: plus the customizable summary page. nommy.
[21:20] <dashua> vish, Are the action arrow icons getting changed to the new folder color?  Looks a little inconsistent with the old Humanity orange.