=== chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === \vish is now known as vish [10:44] dashua: hehe , you were just having fun , werent ya > http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42237268/out.ogv ;p [10:55] vish, Ha yeah. Just a bit. Was demonstrating the metacity fixes on the button bg's. :) [10:58] The fix is my PPA if it hasn't hit Lucid yet. [10:59] yeah , that was a good fix [10:59] vish: have you seen the new "Metro" ui for the widows phone 7 series? it looks pretty slick [11:00] windows* [11:00] darkmatter: yeah , _sabdfl_ had blogged about it too o.0 [11:00] * darkmatter likes [11:03] especially the tile flipping thing that lets you do crazy stuff like flip over a contact and text them on the back of their card [11:04] darkmatter: is there a vid or a working version? i just read the slides [11:04] s/or/of [11:05] vish: I haven't seen one around, but I'm still looking [11:07] found a promo video, but those don't count :P [11:18] vish: found one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dM4X-KveSs [11:22] ty [11:22] np [11:23] * vish for some reason cant stop laughing when he looks at steve ballmer ;p [11:24] I've always leaned toward that more 'webby' feel in ui metaphors, probably explains why I like that ui so much :P [11:32] vish: that phone reveal actually shows a decent example of what I'm talking about when I ramble on about data convergence. take their pictures library for example. regardless of the source, all pictures are shown their. be they flickr, live, facebook, locally stored, whatever [11:34] ah [11:34] i like the live title , they seem to work pretty well [11:34] live tiles* [11:37] vish: basically, aside from the hated but necessary web-browsery-thingy, I think the internet should be provided as a service/framework and should be plugged in to the user environment at more of a core level, and various bit's are sorted to where they should be according to what they are [11:39] darkmatter: internet should be free and unlimited ;) .. even on phones.. i think finland made broadband a basic right [11:39] and not just personal data/networking/etc, web searches, mapping, et al [11:40] vish: aye [11:40] vish: but you get the picture I should think [11:41] darkmatter: yeah , that is actually how everything should work.. no need to forget when i left/stored my whatever files [11:42] that's more easily solved by just putting everything in the web browser than by 'plugging the internet in the desktop' [11:43] vish: like one of the ideas I borrowed and modified conceptually. the whole enzo/ubiquity thingy, but as the run dialog. think of something like do, but not limited to local crap [11:44] * vish bbiab [11:50] sanderqd: if by 'easy' you mean 'lazy' then yeah. :P but the networking bit is only a part of the whole. I've been wasting my time on the design and engineering long enough to state with utmost certainty that browser = fail in this specific case (and most others). the reason being something about "half-assed implementations" ;) [12:16] darkmatter: google also has quite some experience with design and engineering :-) [12:20] never said they didn't. I said specifics vary. it's all about the implementation. google is cloud crazy because google wants to control the ebb and flow of data ;) [12:43] darkmatter: interesting ui > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3OUG93qZ0Q&feature=channel [12:45] a fan ui. that is cool. only potential drawback I can think of is that it is perhaps too linear [12:48] weirdly though i'm right-handed , i find holding the phone in my left hand more easier o.0 [12:50] vish: http://www.fallon.com/skimmer [12:57] vish: it's nothing earthshattering, but it looks like a nice app [12:58] darkmatter: ah! i was wondering what awesomeness i was missing... looks nice indeed :) [13:02] vish: plus the customizable summary page. nommy. [21:20] vish, Are the action arrow icons getting changed to the new folder color? Looks a little inconsistent with the old Humanity orange.