[10:24] <baptistemm> hello
[15:30] <cnd> I have a pending merge request against gnome-settings-daemon that I'd like someone to review to fix bug 484186: https://code.launchpad.net/~chasedouglas/ubuntu/lucid/gnome-settings-daemon/CRTC-fix/+merge/22699
[15:30] <cnd> thanks in advance!
[16:11] <rickspencer3> cnd, hi, it's a holiday in most of Europe, so things will go a bit slow today
[16:11] <cnd> rickspencer3: yeah, we in the US don't get that luxury :)
[16:12] <rickspencer3> yup
[16:12] <rickspencer3> because we live in a savage and brutal society
[16:12] <rickspencer3> :)
[16:16] <Nafai> good morning
[16:17] <kenvandine> good morning Nafai
[16:18] <Nafai> How are you kenvandine?
[16:18] <kenvandine> good
[16:18] <kenvandine> and you?
[16:18] <Nafai> pretty good
[16:19] <rickspencer3> Hi Nafai
[16:20] <Nafai> Hey rickspencer3
[16:20] <rickspencer3> Nafa
[16:20] <rickspencer3> oops
[16:20] <rickspencer3> stupid focus stealing chromium pop-ups
[16:20] <rickspencer3> Nafai, what's on your list for today?
[16:21] <Nafai> That's what I was about to ask you :)  I couldn't reproduce the VMWare player/gdm input thing, though there was one other who has posted and said he has seen it with a Karmic host.  Don't really have much else on my plate at the moment
[16:22] <rickspencer3> dang it!
[16:23] <rickspencer3> I mean "dang it you couldn't repro that bug"
[16:23] <Nafai> yeah
[16:23] <Nafai> I made a comment on the bug indicating my configuration
[16:23] <rickspencer3> Nafai, in that case, could you please triage any new UNE bugs
[16:24] <rickspencer3> do you have UNE set up right now?
[16:24] <Nafai> I installed the meta package
[16:24] <rickspencer3> ok
[16:24] <Nafai> Is there a tag or something I should subscribe to in launchpad to find these bugs?
[16:24] <rickspencer3> Nafai, have you talked to didrocks about triaging UNE?
[16:25] <rickspencer3> Nafai, look in the packages
[16:25] <Nafai> briefly
[16:25] <rickspencer3> for example netbook-launcher
[16:25] <Nafai> ok
[16:27] <rickspencer3> oh fudge
[16:27] <rickspencer3> looks like the latest quickly-widgets broke bughugger rather badly :(
[16:27] <Nafai> :(
[16:28] <rickspencer3> Nafai, after you are done with triaging UNE ...
[16:28] <rickspencer3> could you please take a look at the facilities for geo-location programming?
[16:28] <rickspencer3> there was a blueprint for it in Lucid, but we canceled it because upstreams weren't in good shape
[16:28] <rickspencer3> it would be useful to take another look
[16:29] <rickspencer3> and perhaps resurect the blueprint for Maverick
[16:29] <Nafai> sure thing
[16:36] <milanbv> chrisccoulson: is there any plan to package system-tools-backends 2.10.0? I've seen that Robert Ancell took care of liboobs and the gst
[16:36] <chrisccoulson> milanbv, i'm not too sure. i'm not really looking at any of those things at the moment, as i've already got a lot to do
[16:37] <milanbv> as always ;-)
[16:37] <chrisccoulson> heh
[16:37] <chrisccoulson> and we're frozen for beta 2 right now too
[16:37] <chrisccoulson> milanbv, what has changed in 2.10.0?
[16:37] <milanbv> do you think I should ping Robert?
[16:37] <milanbv> hmm, a few crashers
[16:37] <chrisccoulson> ah, that should be ok then
[16:38] <chrisccoulson> there is only a 1 week window after beta 2 before we are in final freeze
[16:38] <milanbv> yeah, two common crashers, fix changing UIDs and GIDs, plus big performance improvements
[16:38] <milanbv> definitely worth it - anyway, I'm often releasing with Ubuntu in mind
[17:26] <xiven> Anyone in here for Telepathy? I am trying to find the proper source files to implement the Room List functionality, specifically for the Yahoo protocol.
[17:27] <xiven> Where do I find the SOURCE for telepathy...all I can find it header files
[17:28] <edsiper> xiven, http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[17:33] <xiven> I wonder how productive software would be if the older C sources were converted into the latest C++ sources..
[17:35]  * kklimonda|G1 doesn't understand
[17:35]  * chrisccoulson doesn't either ;)
[17:50] <coffeedude> *: Thanks in advance if anyone can point me in the right direction.  First, how do I tickle the "restart required" state of the Logout/Restart menu in Lucid?  And secondly, I seem to be getting two copies of the shortcut in the System ->Administration menu when I install my packages.  Any idea how to track down why?
[17:56] <soren> coffeedude: /var/run/reboot-required for the first question.
[17:56] <coffeedude> Thanks soren.  Has that changed from karmic?  O)r maybe I just accidentially dropped the patch in the latest likewise-open packages....
[17:56] <soren> coffeedude: (/usr/share/update-notifier/notify-reboot-required for usage example)
[17:57] <soren> coffeedude: No clue, sorry. It's the sort of thing I look up each time I need it.
[17:57] <coffeedude> soren, fair enough.
[20:06] <TomJaeger> Hi.  Apparently there was a deliberate decision to not show the battery percentage in g-p-m anymore (bug #539912).  I don't know who made this decision, but I strongly urge you to reconsider.  The remaining time estimate is pretty much useless to me since it depends on too many factors.
[20:21] <chrisccoulson> TomJaeger, that decision is unlikely to be changed now at this stage of the cycle (we're just over 1 week from final freeze)
[20:25] <TomJaeger> chrisccoulson, That's a shame.  This is probably the single most annoying issue that I have with lucid right now.
[20:26] <chrisccoulson> TomJaeger, i don't like it either, but the menu was far too wide with the percentage in there, which is why it was removed
[20:27] <chrisccoulson> the estimated time remaining on my laptop is woefully inaccurate, and i can't use it to work out how long i've got left
[20:27] <chrisccoulson> for example, it said 3 hours 40 minutes until charged some 30 seconds ago
[20:27] <chrisccoulson> and now it is 4 hours until charged ;)
[20:29] <TomJaeger> This is still somewhat puzzling to me.  There would have been easier ways of shortening the menu entry.
[20:32] <chrisccoulson> like?
[20:32] <chrisccoulson> it was already shortened quite a bit
[20:32] <TomJaeger> 3:40 instead of "3 hours 40 minutes"
[20:32] <TomJaeger> "battery" instead of "laptop battery"
[20:33] <chrisccoulson> TomJaeger, g-p-m also handles other types of batteries
[20:33] <chrisccoulson> which is why it is "Laptop battery"
[20:35] <chrisccoulson> and abbreviations suck. "battery 3.40 until charged" means nothing
[20:36] <TomJaeger> re laptop battery, gpm_device_type_to_localised_text seems to suggest otherwise
[20:37] <TomJaeger> In fact, the internal code for a "laptop battery" is DKP_DEVICE_TYPE_BATTERY
[20:39] <chrisccoulson> well, i can assure you that it does
[20:39] <chrisccoulson> it also monitors wireless mouse batteries
[20:39] <chrisccoulson> and UPS devices
[20:43] <TomJaeger> It's debatable whether anyone would really assume that "battery" refers to their wireless mouse' battery.
[20:43] <TomJaeger> which is called "wireless mouse", not "wireless mouse battery", incidentally.
[20:44] <TomJaeger> back to "3 hours 40 minutes", "3 hrs 40 min" is another abbreviation that is commonly used.
[20:54] <chrisccoulson> TomJaeger, remember that "hrs" has to be translated in lots of languages
[21:03] <TomJaeger> chrisccoulson, I'm sure most languages have concise way of expressing a time span.  But you're right, it's probably too late to get this translated for lucid.
[21:07] <TomJaeger> How about breaking the information into two lines, i.e. "Laptop battery is discharging\n3 hours 40 minutes left (60%)"
[22:08] <zyga-nc10> do we have an ambience/radiance gvim colorscheme?
[22:09] <fagan> zyga-nc10: I dont think so but im sure you could make one
[22:10] <zyga-nc10> fagan: is it tool late to include it by default?
[22:11] <fagan> zyga-nc10: hmm im sure it could get a freeze exception because it wouldnt case problems
[22:11] <fagan> but maybe not
[22:12] <zyga-nc10> fagan: well there is this page: http://vimcolorschemetest.googlecode.com/svn/html/index-c.html
[22:12] <zyga-nc10> I'm pretty sure we could find one that looks almost good and tweak it
[23:02] <rickspencer3> RAOF, good morning
[23:36] <TheMuso> Good morning.
[23:48] <RAOF> Good morning.
[23:49] <TheMuso> RAOF: Hey! How was your long weekend?
[23:49] <RAOF> Nice and relaxing.
[23:49] <RAOF> Yours?
[23:51] <rickspencer3> good morning TheMuso