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DiegoTchi01:49
DiegoTcIs someone available right now?01:49
* mhall119 is available but not a motu01:57
nigelb!ask | didrocks02:26
ubottudidrocks: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)02:26
nigelbugh!02:26
nigelb!ask | DiegoTc02:26
ubottuDiegoTc: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)02:26
wrapster in the postinst script i cannot execute how do i execute shell commands?coz one in particular called 'update-ca-certificates' fails if written inside the postinst scrip02:29
wrapsterbut anywhere else if i write its working fine.02:30
wrapsterhttp://pastie.org/90051102:30
sistpotywrapster: got the package a depends on ca-certificates?02:33
wrapstersistpoty: one sec let me see02:55
wrapsteryes there are quite a few pkgs that depened on ca-certificates02:57
wrapstersistpoty: but why is that important?02:58
sistpotywrapster: if the packages uses a command found in ca-certificates (i.e. update-ca-certificates), it needs to have the package providing the command installed prior to it02:59
wrapstersistpoty: apt-get install ca-certificates is giving me this error http://pastie.org/90329402:59
wrapsterhmm.. ok let me verify that .. one sec pls.03:00
wrapstersistpoty: yes that pkg is already installed.03:00
sistpotywrapster: then, s.th. went wrong? not too sure how to debug that in the first place, I guess running the commands of the postinst by hand could shed further lights03:02
sistpotys/lights/light/03:02
wrapstersistpoty: yes i kinda did that and was able to see that the shell command here ' http://pastie.org/900511 ' that is update-ca-certificates is the probelm.. I was able to deduce so by actually removing that line from the postinst script .. then the pkg was installed cleanly. so its definitely the case with this cmd.03:04
sistpotywrapster: did you check what went wrong with that command yet?03:04
wrapstersistpoty: i cannot find that out.. coz i ran the cmd independently and it works fine.03:05
wrapsterits only within the script.03:05
wrapsterand secondly 'update-ca-certificates' binary comes from 'ca-certificates' pkg .. and this pkg's postinst script itself is calling the update-ca-certificate cmd ... Will this cmd be initialized by the time postinst is run?03:06
wrapstercould that be the reason?03:06
sistpotywrapster: there's no state of initialized/uninitialized for a *command*, however the command might need data provided by a package03:08
wrapsterhmm..03:08
wrapsterbut i see it working on a lot of debian machines already.03:08
wrapstermy own ubunutu has it working.03:09
wrapsterthis pkg working.. its on another machine im trying to install this and its failing.03:09
sistpotywrapster: just a wild guess, but maybe update-ca-certificates checks some data and fails if e.g. a certificate is not in the right format?03:09
wrapsterhmm.. let me check that..03:10
wrapsterthanks..03:10
sistpotyyw03:10
DiegoTcI got this erro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete when I  am doing the debuild command03:40
DiegoTcI am really lost here :S03:40
ScottKWhat error?03:40
DiegoTcScottk this one http://pastebin.com/qSuibTZR03:42
DiegoTcsorry i got confuse of link03:43
ScottKNo problem.  Looking03:43
ScottKDiegoTc: Does your package build-depend on qmake?03:45
DiegoTcScottk yes it does, its a small app I did using QT4c++03:45
ScottKIs qmake installed?03:45
ScottKWhat is "No hay ninguna regla para construir el objetivo" in English?03:46
DiegoTc"there is no any rule for building the objective"03:47
DiegoTcScottk I suppose its build because I am compiling it on my computer right now03:47
ScottKI'm not sure exactly what the problem is.03:48
DiegoTc:S03:49
ScottKWhat happens if you run make -f debian/rules clean from the source directory of your package?03:49
DiegoTcScottK, you mean to do this  make -f debian/rules03:50
ScottKDiegoTc: Close.03:50
ScottKmake -f debian/rules clean03:50
ScottKThat should just run the clean rule.03:50
ScottKWhich is where the error you showed me was.03:51
DiegoTcScottK,  HERE http://pastebin.com/hhbWMJWn03:53
DiegoTci put the translation down03:53
ScottKRight.03:54
ScottKSo I guess there is some qmake problem here.03:54
ScottKUnfortunately it's not something I know about.03:54
DiegoTcScottK, so what you will recommend me ??03:56
ScottKFigure out why you don't have the Makefile parts that qmake is saying are needed.  I have no idea what those are.03:57
ScottKSorry I can't be more help.03:57
DiegoTcthanks03:58
DiegoTcScottK,04:16
DiegoTcScottK, I found this link http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/debhelper.html#module__build__compat04:17
DiegoTcand i add this to the rules debhelper 7.0.17.04:17
DiegoTcand when i do the  sudo make -f debian/rules clean I got this message http://pastebin.com/VVjqTa6A04:19
thewhohi all04:32
kobrienhey guys04:43
kobrienlooks like debian fixed the public_html problem Bug: 55490304:43
kobrienhow exactly do their fixed get into our builds?04:44
ScottKBug 55490304:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 554903 in apache2 "apache2 with mod php5 does not execute index.php" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55490304:44
kobrienI can make a patch if that helps?04:45
ScottKkobrien: Generally once the new package is in Debian, someone would prepare an updated merge.04:45
ScottKkobrien: It would.04:45
ScottKThe most preferred patch would be a merge debdiff (unless their upload has other invasive changes).04:46
ScottKBut any form of patch attached to a bug would be a help.04:46
kobrienScottK: how would I go about "merge debdiff". take their debdiff and apply?04:46
ScottK!merge04:47
ubottuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging04:47
ScottKHave a look there.04:47
kobrienScottK: will do. thanks04:47
kobrienScottK: when I run grab-merge it fails04:57
kobrienwith "unexpected operator"04:58
RoAkSoAxkobrien, as ../grab-merge.sh <package_name> ?04:59
kobrienyes04:59
kobrienwell04:59
kobrien./grab-merge.sh php504:59
kobrienin an empthy dir, correct?05:00
kobrienempty*05:00
RoAkSoAxkobrien, yep. But check in merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html or merges.ubuntu.com/main.html for which packages are available for ".grab-merging"05:01
kobrienit's really libapache2-php5 I'm after, but it's not listed05:03
RoAkSoAxkobrien, libapache2-mod-php5 ?05:04
ScottKRoAkSoAx: That's only work for things in Testing.05:04
ScottKHe's looking for something just uploaded.05:05
kobrienScottK: please advise05:05
kobrienRoAkSoAx: yes05:06
RoAkSoAxScottK, since he was using grab-merge that's why I thought he was looking to merge a package from debian in testing :)05:06
ScottKkobrien: You mean libapache2-mod-php5?05:07
kobrienScottK: yes05:07
ScottKThat's part of the php5 source package.05:07
RoAkSoAxkobrien, poh o just read backlog. You would have to do: 'apt-get source libapache2-mod-php5', which is actually in php5 source package. So it will download the source package and you can start working from there05:07
kobrienRoAkSoAx: ok so05:08
kobrienthat's how I'd normally patch, but debian have released a fix, I was gonna merge their fix, but I can easily just implement it in a patch05:08
kobrienof my own05:08
ScottKBetter to get Debians.05:09
ScottK(for consistency)05:09
RoAkSoAxyep05:09
kobrienright, so can I apply their debdiff directly?...how to proceed?05:09
ScottKkobrien: I don't see anything new uploaded yet: http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php5.html05:10
ScottK"There are 64 open security issues, please fix them."05:10
kobrienbasing off this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=57171405:10
ubottuDebian bug 571714 in libapache2-mod-php5 "apache 2.2.14 doesn't parse php5 in public_html" [Normal,Fixed]05:10
ScottKkobrien: We should have that in Lucid already05:11
ScottKAre you wanting a fix for Karmic?05:11
kobriennope, Lucid05:12
ScottKWe already it then (at least in theory).05:14
ScottKIt could have been a bad merge.05:14
ScottKSo I'd grab the Ubuntu source (apt-get soure php5) and then check too see if it's there already.05:15
kobrienrighteo05:15
kobrien2 secs05:15
kobrienScottK: It appears that in the current lucid version, the behaviour of not serving php from public_html is known. It gives details of how to enable it, but it's not default. surely it should be05:31
kobriendo you agree?05:32
ScottKkobrien: I'd ask zul on #ubuntu-server when he's working tomorrow.05:32
ScottKPersonally I've never failed to avoid dealing with php and prefer to keep it that way.05:32
kobrienScottK: ;) no probs. I'll see what I can do. The fix is easy, but I'll consult zul. thanks05:33
nigelbok, so in my .pbuilderrc I have this line UBUNTU_MIRROR="http://ubuntuarchive.hnsdc.com/" unfortunately, pbuilder is not using that mirror even after source .pbuilderrc05:56
nigelbany thoughts on what I'm doing wrong ?05:57
ScottKI don't see any mention of UBUNTU_MIRROR in man pbuilder06:00
nigelbI use this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Multiple%20pbuilders06:00
ScottKOK.06:05
nigelband its still not working :D06:05
* kobrien compiles the hell out of php06:05
ScottKnigelb: If you want to figure out how to get this one to build, that'd be nice too: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-imlib/0.7-1build106:10
nigelbScottK, was that for me or kobrien ?06:12
kobrienprobably me, I'll look into ot06:12
ScottKnigelb: Actuall kobrien.  Thanks.06:12
ScottK../06:12
ScottKy06:12
kobrien:)06:12
* ScottK goes to bed.06:12
kobriennn06:12
ScottKGood night.06:12
nigelbgood night :)06:12
kobrienthanks for the help06:12
kobrienooh, that bug looks good.06:14
wrapstervi and vim are not a part of any pkg?06:15
nigelbit is06:16
wrapsterdpkg -S didnt show anything.06:16
wrapsterwhy so then?06:16
nigelbyou dont have it installed?06:16
kobrienit lists fine when it's installed06:17
kobrienwrapster: install with "sudo apt-get install vim"06:18
wrapsterkobrien: and how about vi?06:18
kobrienhmm, can't vim work in vi mode06:18
nigelbvim-tiny perhaps?06:19
wrapsterno..06:19
wrapsterIm acutally curious to know about 'update-alternatives' for my own reasons.. thats why asking you guys.. as i see that both vi and vim point to the same file eventually.06:19
wrapsterand that is 'vim.basic'06:20
kobrien:set compatible?06:20
kobrienI think that'll put vim in vi mode06:20
wrapsterkobrien: no i dont have issues using the editor nor do i want info on using it.. I want to know just how both vi and vim manage to point to the same file.06:21
wrapsteri need to just take a look at it thats all.06:21
kobrienoh...cause vi isn't packaged. only vim is availible but it acts just like vi06:22
kobrienif you want it to. that's why both point to it06:22
wrapsterah.. ok..06:22
wrapsterI got that..06:22
wrapsterkobrien: so by default debian does not ship vi at all.. Is that what your telling me?06:24
nigelbyup06:24
wrapsterthank you.06:24
wrapsterguys06:24
kobrienyup06:24
kobriencool06:24
kobrienthere's no need as vim provides its functionality06:24
* kobrien still compiling...06:26
kobrienif I make a patch, is it useful for me to upload more than a debdiff?07:07
persiakobrien: Not really, no.  Also, does your patch fix an issue generally, or is it just an aggregation of currently available patches?07:09
kobrienit is a single fix for default configuration of apache207:10
persiaAh, for that just the debdiff is fine then.07:11
kobriencool, thanks.07:13
nigelbhow do I unapply a patch?07:20
nigelbis there a way?07:20
maconigelb: diff -r, i think07:20
persiaWhat sort of patch?07:20
nigelbwell, I was going to patch with quilt, but forgot quilt add07:20
nigelbso, now I have to remove applied patch and do a quilt add and then patch again07:20
persiaHow did you apply the patch?07:21
nigelbpatch -p1 < blablabla.pach07:22
macobrain not working sorry07:22
nigelbmaco, I did wonder07:23
maconigelb: have you learned about "quilt import" yet?07:23
nigelbum, no07:23
* nigelb goes to man pages07:23
nigelbah, never knew this one.. this is cool :)07:23
persiadiff -r ought work for that case, but quilt import is better.07:24
nigelbso no need to do a quilt new when using quilt import?07:24
persiaRight.07:25
persiaInstead, you need to use -f or -d when you want not to have a new patch.07:25
macopersia: you mean like if you want to combine 2 or 3 external patches into 1 quilt patch?07:26
persiamaco: Or you want to merge/overwrite some quilt patch with some external patch.  man quilt :)07:26
macoooh alrighty. i only ever used it for adding 1 patch at a time07:27
* nigelb glares at maco 07:27
nigelbyou taught me quilt :D07:27
maconigelb: what?07:27
maconigelb: i taught you a long way round?07:27
nigelbyeah07:27
maconigelb: was possibly before i learned about import07:28
nigelbahhh07:28
macoive only done the new, add, edit, <manually edit things without the patch command>, refresh thing once, i think07:29
macohaving a patch to import is much more common07:30
nigelbgenerally I did new, add, (then manually patch -p1...), quilt refresh07:30
macoyeah thats what i did til i learned about import07:30
nigelbso if the patch is improperly formatted, I guess I have to manually do it07:31
macohmmm? well i hope you dont normally add patches that dont apply...07:31
nigelbI'm doing patch review... well.. a lot of patches dont apply properly07:32
macoyeah07:32
macopatch --dry-run07:32
nigelbI do that first always07:32
nigelbI guess I have to manually correct the directory structure07:33
persiaDid you use the right -pN argument?  That's my most frequent mistake.07:34
nigelbnaah.  the patch author hasn't referenced the file (s)he wants to patch correctly07:35
nigelbinstead of share/applications/vlc.desktop its just vlc.desktop07:35
nigelbsomeday, someone will write a script to properly tag patches07:36
nigelbuntil then, I'll just crib about it I guess07:36
nigelbis normal for series file to have $patch_name -p$ ?07:39
nigelbi.e. after importing07:39
macoif the patch has a p number other than 1, sure07:40
maco(1 is default i believe)07:40
nigelbI think if I specify something it turns up there07:40
* maco waits for persia to say she's wrong07:40
nigelb1 is default :)07:41
persiamaco is wrong07:41
nigelbpersia, which part?07:41
persiaNo, the default is not to do nested trees.07:41
nigelb-p num - Number of directory levels to strip when applying (default=1)07:42
nigelb^ from man quilt07:42
persiaThe default is for the directory hierarchy in the patches to be ignored, and for it to apply to patches in the local directory.  Under certain circumstances, this is indistinguisable from p107:42
persiaOh, sorry.  I'm describing patch behaviour.  quilt is likely saner07:42
nigelbah :)07:42
nigelbwhy is my pbuilder not accepting a mirror from the .pbuilderrc file :(07:50
nigelbis this part of a mirror problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/409379/07:59
persianigelb: That does indicate a mirror problem.  I recommend adding *multiple* entries to sources.list for each component.  Put the ones network-closest to you first, followed by those further away, and with archive.ubuntu.com/ports.ubuntu.com at the end of the list.08:03
nigelbpersia, well, its from my pbuilder build log08:03
persiaapt will try them in order, so you get the advantages of mirroring where the mirror works, and fall back to something trusted if the mirror doesn't work.08:03
persiaThere too :)08:03
nigelbI set the mirror as my closest one, but it just refuses to accept that one :x08:03
nigelbpersia, pbuilder seems adamant on using the mirrors.kernel.org one08:04
nigelbI did a source .pbuilder and still didn't change08:05
persiaThat's hacked into pbuilder-dist08:06
nigelbno no08:06
nigelbI use this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Multiple%20pbuilders08:06
persiaNo idea then.08:06
persiaHave you considered sbuild?08:06
nigelbno08:06
nigelbis there a how-to somewhere?08:07
persiaAre you running lucid?08:07
nigelbnope... ugh.. sbuild needs lvm?08:07
persiaNot in lucid.08:07
nigelbI'm running karmic08:07
persiaUpgrade!08:07
* kobrien slaves over lucid bugs08:08
nigelbI'm not a fan of Upgrade.  I always do clean installs08:08
persialucid is stable enough that if there's anything that doesn't work, you want to know *now* so you have a chance of fixing it.08:08
persiaMind you, I run karmic on some of my machines, but most certainly not on my development machines.08:08
persiaupgrade should just work.  If something doesn't work, that's a fixable bug.08:10
kobrienlucid is quite stable08:10
nigelbstill I'm curious as to why pbuilder doesn't work08:10
persiaI can't help you with that.  My experience with pbuilder is limited to patching pbuilder-dist a couple times.08:12
nigelbI'll just try override-config and if that doesnt work pbuilder-dist08:12
persiapbuilder-dist hardcodes the mirror in a way I think non-optimal08:13
persiaAnd I believe lool was working upstream to try to obsolete pbuilder-dist08:13
nigelbsigh.  I guess I have to upgrade then08:14
geserlfaraone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/409383/ I hope this finally fixes it08:21
* kobrien face palm. a static type, qualified by static when declared in a function.08:32
kkszysiuis package freeze now? Or I can upload new packages?08:39
nigelbkkszysiu, we are in feature freeze for lucid now.  If you really want your package in, you need a feature freeze exception08:40
kobrienScottK: successfully compiled https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-imlib/0.7-1build108:40
nigelbkobrien, you work magic :)08:41
kkszysiunigelb, ah08:41
nigelbkkszysiu, I would suggesting getting the package into debian, it will be synced into lucid then08:41
nigelburm... lucid+108:41
kkszysiuyeah, thats my plan :P08:42
kobriennigelb: I just code C. :). It compiles anyway.08:42
nigelbkobrien, :)08:42
kobriennigelb: I'm unsure as to how to proceed. It's not like there's a report I can attach a patch to. How do I commit my change?08:43
nigelbjust make a bug report08:43
kobriennigelb: cool08:43
nigelbattach a debdiff and subscribe sponsors08:43
nigelbif you're unsure how to make a debdiff.. attach a simple patch and ping me I'll make a debdiff for ya :)08:44
kobrienI can debdiff :), cheers08:44
nigelbcool :)08:44
kobrienoh wait08:44
kobrienno, I can debdiff08:44
kobrien:D08:45
kkszysiuhmm anyone have idea how to change libexecdir in package? I mean it should be /usr/telepathy/telepathy-sunshine but is /usr/telepathy-sunshine/telepathy-sunshinee. Its strange because if I compile it uusing make & make  install it  see that llibexecsir is /usr/lib/telepathy/telepathy-sunshine09:07
geserkobrien: for php-imlib?09:24
geserthere is a patch from me waiting in the Debian BTS09:25
geserhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=56911809:25
ubottuDebian bug 569118 in src:php-imlib "php-imlib: FTBFS with php 5.3" [Serious,Open]09:25
nigelbgeser, for the vlc bug, I got hit with glibc error09:26
geserhave you an error message?09:26
nigelbouch...lost it... 2 mins09:27
kobriengeser: didn't see that. my patch does the same thing...09:30
geserkobrien: just a hint for the next time: look if there is a bug (with patch) in LP or in the Debian PTS just waiting on someone uploading it, it can save you time09:31
kobriengeser: noted09:33
geserkobrien: can you test if the package still works? I don't have a setup ready to test it and didn't had time yet to setup one.09:34
kobriengeser: other than installing it, how can I test?09:36
geserhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/php-imlib/filelist shows that it contains some examples09:37
kobriengeser: ok, I'll have a look now.09:38
geserwith apache + php + php-imlib you should be able to run them09:38
kobriengeser: yeah, I'll copy them and see if they work09:38
geserthanks09:42
nigelbabugeser, so this error I got had something to do with glib c and I got a trace output, etc09:47
nigelbabuI'm rebuilding right now to get a log09:47
kobriengeser: package is broken09:50
geserkobrien: :(09:50
kobriengeser: it's "fatal error" in the logs is that it can't "imlib_create_image" which is kinda necessary for it, as an image library, :(09:51
nigelbgeser, something strange just happened... twice.. everytime I build vlc again, my system shuts down :(10:00
geseroh10:02
nigelbany clue whats going wrong?10:03
kobriennigelb: weird10:03
nigelbkobrien, definitely10:03
gesersorry no idea10:03
nigelbI'll try pushing to a PPA10:03
nigelbthat should give an idea if somethings wrong only locally :)10:03
geserhave you checked your logs for a kernel oops or a out-of-memory case?10:04
nigelbhow do I do that?10:04
gesercheck /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog10:06
geserand hope your system was still enough alive to log something10:06
geseranyone interested in merging "xpdf"? It contains some security fixes and would be nice to have in lucid.10:07
nigelbneither exists10:07
=== \vish is now known as vish
nigelboh, success.. vlc builds :)10:56
=== ogra_ is now known as ogra
* hyperair tickles james_w. banshee-community-extensions is NEW again :-)14:25
cndI've got a fix for gnome-settings-daemon bug 484186, I've proposed merging my fix branch, and linked the bug to the branch14:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 484186 in gnome-settings-daemon "Cannot switch Monitor configuration CRTC 58" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48418614:57
cndshould I also be subscribing ubuntu-sponsors?14:57
dyfetcnd: I gather you have a patch?  I have seen this issue also, and had wondered about it :)15:04
cnddyfet: I've actually created a bzr branch in lp with the fix15:04
cndit's ready to be merged15:04
persiacnd: Yes, subscribing ubuntu-sponsors is potentially helpful, although you'd want to check the sponsoring report source to be sure.  You might also see if anyone is around in #ubuntu-desktop who can push it quickly (most of us don't have upload rights to that package).15:19
cndpersia: check the sponsoring report for what? (and where is the sponsoring report?)15:20
persiacnd: Check the code to see if subscribing ubuntu-sponsors does anything at all, and https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-sponsoring/trunk15:21
cndpersia: I'm not following you, what should I be checking in this code for?15:22
nigelbpersia, the bug does show up in the sponsoring report15:23
persianigelb: So subscribing ubuntu-sponsors when performing a merge request is superfluous?15:24
cndif you're referring to here: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/, then the merge request is enough to get on there15:25
nigelbpersia, I believe so, yes15:25
cndis that all I need to do then? (outside of maybe bringing it up in #ubuntu-desktop)?15:25
persiaIf it appears at qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring then yes.15:26
cndpersia: ok, thanks!15:26
c_korndoes the source format 3.0 (quilt) need an explicit build dependency for quilt ?15:28
ScottKc_korn: No.15:28
ScottK(mostly)15:28
persiaScottK: mostly?15:29
c_kornbecause lintian warned me that a quilt is missing in build-depends. but maybe because I had "include /usr/share/quilt/quilt.make" in the debian/rules file. is this also required or is patching now done automatically ?15:29
james_wnot unless you call quilt while building15:30
james_wc_korn: you should be able to drop that15:30
ScottKpersia: Depending on the exact version of dpkg(-dev) involved if you ship a quilt .pc file (I think that's it), the build-dep on quilt is still required.15:30
ScottKI think, but am not certain, that's not an issue anymore.15:31
persiaScottK: Ah, yes.  That's not an issue anymore in sid/squeeze/lucid15:31
matttbeHello james_w15:31
matttbeI've a question about this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/lucid/cairo-dock/lucid : cairo-dock packages have been updated but not this branch, is there a problem?15:31
c_kornis README.source required in 3.0 (quilt) ?15:31
ScottKNot due to having quilt and patches15:32
matttbe(cairo-dock-plug-ins branch has been updated => https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/lucid/cairo-dock-plug-ins/lucid )15:32
persiac_korn: And please don't reference quilt in the build for format 3.0(quilt) : if you rely on some obscure behaviour related to how patches are applied at build time using quilt, use format 3.0(native).15:32
james_whyperair: you never replied to my mail, is the part without any license statements sorted?15:33
james_wmatttbe: probably15:33
hyperairjames_w: ah sorry about that. yes, everything's now documented in debian/copyright.15:34
james_wmatttbe: yeah, there's a bug in the importer that this package is hitting15:34
hyperairjames_w: lirc still is missing copyright statements, but i've mentioned in a comment where the original code came from, plus a debian/copyright that upstream did before  b-c-e was founded.15:34
c_kornpersia: ok, thanks for the warning15:35
matttbejames_w: ok, I'd seen this problem and somebody tells me to ping you15:35
matttbeI also have another question: I've added 'apport' support in 'cairo-dock' packages but all needed informations are located in a private bug report. How can I access to this private bug? e.g. bug #55326515:40
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/539889)15:40
* Pici looks at bot error15:41
persiamatttbe: Your best plan for getting access to that class of bugs is to work with the bugsquad long enough to gain Bug Control.  They usually hang out in #ubuntu-bugs and are always happy to help new folks learn the processes.15:44
persiamatttbe: Alternately, I believe you can subscribe to *all* bugs for the package of interest, but I'm not absolutely sure that works.15:44
matttbeI subscribed to all bugs for these packages but it didn't work15:45
persiaYeah, then you need to be in bug control.15:46
persiaI can inspect that bug in particular, and maybe make unprivate, but that's not a general solution.15:46
matttbeyes but can I only access to cairo-dock's bugs ?15:46
persiaNo, bug control is for access to *all* apport bugs.15:47
matttbe:) strange15:47
lfaraoneHm. Does updating a packages' protocol support count as "new features"? I'm eyeing http://www.wireshark.org/docs/relnotes/wireshark-1.2.7.html right now.15:50
persialfaraone: Can it introduce new bugs?15:52
persiamatttbe: bug #539889 is no longer private15:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 539889 in cairo-dock "cairo-dock crashed with SIGSEGV in cairo_dock_initialize_opengl_backend()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53988915:54
sorenI'm trying to use mk-sbuild to build me a debian chroot. It fails because apparantly apt is not build-essential in Debian. I can't get that to make sense to me.15:57
persiasoren: Which part doesn't make sense?15:57
sorenpersia: Good question :)15:58
persiasoren: And I believe the solution was in debootstrap, although if I'm wrong, I'm happy to hint apt in mk-sbuild.15:58
sorenpersia: Probably that apt is not build-essential in Debian (even though it is in Ubuntu).15:58
persiaIt won't be in Ubuntu much longer, I think.  Personally, I don't see any reason for it to be build-essential.15:59
sorenpersia: Except that buildd's won't work very well without it.15:59
persiaIt's not safe to call apt *during* a build, after all.15:59
persiaThat's an artifact of how the buildds are configured.16:00
sorenI suppose.16:00
persiaThere's no reason one can't set the right apt arguments, and complete the build-deps in the chroot *before* entering the chroot to run the build.16:00
persiaIt just doesn't happen to be implemented that way.16:01
ScottKlfaraone: I'd call it bug fix.16:03
ScottKWe definitely want the latest wireshark anyway.16:03
lfaraoneScottK: okay then :)16:10
DktrKranzI prepared a list of orphaned packages with Ubuntu changes: http://merkel.debian.org/~dktrkranz/ubuntu_QA   It could be interesting uploading such changes to Debian as QA uploads if feasible, thoughts?16:33
ScottKIt's a good idea.  I've been doing that as I run across such packages.16:34
DktrKranzsome packages could be candidate for removal as well, but at least there's a chance to reduce deltas a bit. Any idea how to spread it?16:35
nigelbDktrKranz, I've been uploading to debian and requesting sync when debian qa is the maintainer16:36
DktrKranznigelb: do you have uploads yet to be sponsored?16:37
nigelbnope.  all done and synced16:38
DktrKranzgood .)16:38
DktrKranz_=16:38
DktrKranz:) (\o/)16:38
nigelbI can try and help with this btw, giving back upstream is nice :)16:38
DktrKranzdefinitely :)16:39
nigelbDktrKranz, anyway to agree to fix a particular package?16:46
nigelbi.e. mark as I will be fixing it16:46
DktrKranznigelb: wiki page? upload on mentors.d.n, so PTS is informed?16:47
nigelbDktrKranz, ah, I wanted to delay uploading to mentors.  well, I guess I'll have to do it sooner than later16:48
DktrKranznigelb: no need to use it, I can sponsor them as well, just give me a pointer to a .dsc or a debdiff :)16:49
nigelbok, I'll get to work :)16:49
DktrKranzthanks!16:50
nigelbDktrKranz, I'll move that table onto a wiki.  some of the ubuntu changes need not be moved back upstream17:00
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nigelbDktrKranz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian/QADelta17:35
wrapsterin the postinst script i cannot execute how do i execute shell commands?coz one in particular called 'update-ca-certificates' fails if written inside the postinst script17:42
wrapsterbut anywhere else if i write its working fine.17:42
wrapsterhttp://pastie.org/90051117:43
wrapsteri've been at it with no result.. would really appreciate help17:43
geserwrapster: then find out why it fails (edit that shell-script to show you what it's doing and where it fails)17:55
gesereven if you post it once more, we can't tell you what's wrong because we don't know why the script fails17:55
stevecrozzI've just built a new package 'uwsgi' which provides one binary, should I copy the binary to /usr/bin in debian/rules?18:02
stevecrozzand how would apt no to remove it during apt-get remove?18:03
geserwhy would you want to remove the package but not the binary?18:04
stevecrozzgeser: you wouldn't want that of course, but I don't know how to provide that18:05
stevecrozzif I just "cp uwsgi26 $(CURDIR)/debian/$(package)/usr/bin" in install: build ... will that work?18:07
geseryes, that will make it part of the deb18:08
DktrKranznigelb: nice, thanks18:09
wrapstergeser: i did all those.. i was able to find out that command 'update-ca-certificte' was failing18:10
wrapsterand thats about it.18:10
nigelbDktrKranz, some changes are not required to be sent to debian, so people can comment :)18:10
wrapsterI tried with 'set -x' to figure it out but nothing was helpful18:10
wrapstergeser: I can also confirm that this cmd is the problem as i removed this from the postinst script and the pkg was installed cleanly.18:11
geserwrapster: you added "set -x" to update-ca-certificates? that should show you where it failed so you can try to figure out why18:11
stevecrozzgeser: Is there any reading you can point me to on how to do this right? I'm seeing this type of stuff: mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/stevecrozz/src/uwsgi/uwsgi-0.9.4.3/debian/uwsgi/usr/bin': No such file or directory18:11
wrapstergeser: yes i added it to that command.. as such in the postinst script.. I cannot add it else where.18:12
wrapstergeser: and it didnt work.. http://pastie.org/90405118:13
geserstevecrozz: either mkdir $(CURDIR)/debian/$(package)/usr/bin or put "usr/bin/" debian/dirs and use dh_installdirs18:14
slytherinCan anyone think of any reason why liboscache-java is missing from archive even though it is listed on LP - https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oscache18:14
geserwrapster: you have to add "set -x" to update-ca-certificates to see where it fails. without this nobody can help you as we don't know where and why it fails18:15
wrapsterbut thats a command right and its provided by the same pkg that is failing.. namely 'ca-certificates'18:15
geserslytherin: see the mail from slytherin on u-d-a (see also https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/liboscache-java)18:16
geserwrapster: you have to temporarily modify that script else you don't figure out why it fails (once you know why it fails, you can undo those changes again)18:17
geserI don't know an other way to debug this18:17
wrapsterok thanks.. i try to do something and get back to you.18:18
slytheringeser: Thanks. I missed the mail.18:18
geserslytherin: once you resolved the FTBFS the package can come back18:19
slytheringeser: Checking why it FTBFS18:19
wrapstergeser: yes got it.. thanks .. here is the problem..18:20
wrapsterhttp://pastie.org/90406018:20
geserwrapster: now you have to figure out what c_rehash does and why it fails18:23
geserslytherin: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~lucas/ubuntu-nbs/32/oscache_2.4.1+dak1-1_llucid32.buildlog18:23
slytheringeser: Found that. Looks like problem with target JVM version set during compilation.18:24
slytherinOr probably problem with GCJ18:24
stevecrozzgeser: it looks like this works: "cp uwsgi26 $(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/usr/bin"18:25
stevecrozzI was using "cp uwsgi26 $(CURDIR)/debian/$(package)/usr/bin18:25
geserstevecrozz: depends on which debhelper level you use18:25
stevecrozzgeser: is that why I'm getting these messages? "Compatibility levels before 5 are deprecated."18:26
geseryes18:26
slytheringeser: We now have uninstallable circular build-deps. :-( oscache build-deps on libhibernate3-java which in turn depends on liboscache-java.18:26
stevecrozzgeser: how do I change that?18:26
geserput the debhelper level you want to use in debian/compat. Current is 718:27
geserslytherin: crap18:32
slytherinchecking if it build without hibernate18:33
geserScottK: on the next round of binaries removals in universe we should be more careful with -java packages as they like to have circular build-dependencies18:33
ScottKgeser: There was all kinds of warning for people to check this stuff.18:34
geserI know18:34
geserand yet slipped it though but we should try to not make it worse18:34
ScottKAgreed.18:36
stevecrozzgeser: that works great thanks.. now if I want to provide a symlink to uwsgi26 named uwsgi should I do "ln -s /usr/bin/uwsgi26 $(CURDIR)/debian/$(package)/usr/bin/uwsgi"18:36
ScottKstevecrozz: dh_link is preferred.  See man dh_link for details.18:38
slytheringeser: oscache fixed.19:11
geser\o/19:11
ScottKaccepted too19:17
slytherinScottK: Thanks19:18
slytherinScottK: FYI... Package built and is in NEW queue now.19:22
ScottKOK.19:22
ScottKHopefully slangasek will have a chance to work on New today.19:22
slytherinok19:23
* slytherin moves on to other packages.19:23
slangasekoh, ace is back?19:25
ScottKslangasek: Yep.  Debian had a fixed revision.19:35
ScottKThat's the one I hit that made another package unbuildable.19:36
* slangasek nods19:36
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simarbound mara19:48
mhall119when does the window for FFe close?19:48
simarfuck u aassss holes19:48
simari ama asshole19:48
mhall119yeah, that doesn't really answer my question, but thanks for trying19:50
simari am an asshole19:53
simarfuck u assholes19:53
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lfaraonegeser: Does Debian also use pkgstriptranslations for handling ".mo"s? (I'm considereing whether to submit https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rbot/0.9.14-1ubuntu1 upstream)20:26
mhall119when does the window for FFe close?20:38
mhall119is it open until Beta2 is released?20:38
arandmhall119: I think it's open until the very final, just increasingly stricter..: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess20:43
mhall119arand: thanks20:45
mhall119now I just need someone to review my packages20:45
mhall119any Motu's willing to help?20:45
mhall119no compiling required, honest20:46
RoAkSoAxmhall119, which ones20:53
mhall119qimo-session, qimo-games and qimo-wallpaper20:55
RoAkSoAxmhall119, where are they20:56
RoAkSoAxrevu?20:56
mhall119yes20:57
mhall119I've also created bugs for each, with needs-packaging, and attached orig.tar.gz and diff.gz20:57
RoAkSoAxi'll try to take a look on them later today20:58
RoAkSoAxbut I dont usually woprk with new packages21:00
mhall119there's not a whole lot to them21:01
mhall119mostly graphics and config files being copied into the filesystem21:01
RoAkSoAxmhall119, i'll take a look at them, but wouldn't have been easier to create one source apckages with several binary packages?21:02
mhall119in theory, maybe21:02
mhall119in practice, I have no idea what that even means21:02
mhall119this is my first time making packages, so I'm pretty green21:03
RoAkSoAxmhall119, i.e. qimo-extras source package, which means only 1 .tar.gz and several binary packages that install the necessary from the source21:04
RoAkSoAxunless ytou maintain those differently21:04
RoAkSoAx(or in different sources)21:04
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geserlfaraone: pkgstriptranslations is Ubuntu-specific21:14
arandjoaopinto: Hia, currently checking out bloodfrontier from playdeb, is there currently anything blocking that from making it into the debian and ubuntu repos? (For 10.10 in ubutnus case...)21:22
joaopintoarand, nothing that I know21:23
joaopintoit's Sauerbraten based, there should be no problem with the license21:24
arandjoaopinto: Would you mind if I took a stab at it at some point?21:24
joaopintofeel free21:25
arandjoaopinto: By the way, is the current playdeb version based off 0.85-beta2 (dates seem to indicate that), I didn't find any references in the package.21:28
joaopintoit is21:29
arandjoaopinto: Okay, cheers for info.21:30
mhall119RoAkSoAx: I'll look into that for the M cycle22:09
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tsimpsonanyone want to apply a fix to a 3 year-old bug? (bug #86685)22:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 86685 in trac "trac BROKEN on AMD64: "neo_cgi.so: undefined symbol: Py_InitModule4"" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8668522:43
bencrisfordive created a patch for bug #555422 and uploaded the debdiff, set status to confirmed, unassigned myself and subscribed the ubuntu-sponsors23:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 555422 in gbrainy "Typo in gbrainy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55542223:12
bencrisfordis that correct?23:12
bencrisfordbecause i havent submitted any fixes for a few months23:12
ScottKSounds right.23:13
bencrisfordScottK: :)23:19

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