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Psi-Jackjasonmchristos: Spam is off topic on Freenode.00:00
jasonmchristoswouldnt it be that off-topic is spam?00:01
MTecknologyjasonmchristos: no - perhaps you just shouldn't spam - it only irritates users - you're free to join #defcous if you would like to express your religious beliefs00:02
jasonmchristosthanks00:03
jasonmchristossorry to irritate you00:03
ScottKjasonmchristos: It really is off topic for this channel.00:04
Psi-JackAnyway.00:04
Psi-JackAnyone have any thoughts about the clvm issue? ;)00:04
jasonmchristosr u developers?00:05
jasonmchristosfor ubuntu?00:05
MTecknology!u00:05
MTecknologyyay bot00:06
jasonmchristoslol00:06
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jasonmchristosjust neeeded a little encouragment see00:06
MTecknologyjasonmchristos: no, this channel purpose is described in the topic00:06
jasonmchristosPsi-Jack: Are YOU sure the sysntax is correct?00:08
Psi-JackI don't communicate with trolls, sorry.00:09
MTecknology!clvm00:10
MTecknology!info clvm00:10
ubottuclvm (source: lvm2): Cluster LVM Daemon for lvm2. In component main, is extra. Version 2.02.39-0ubuntu11 (karmic), package size 243 kB, installed size 604 kB00:10
MTecknologyoh00:11
Psi-Jackheh00:11
jasonmchristosyou just did, it would seem that it doesnt understand the locking type, so my first guess is syntax if three is indeed a valid lock type00:11
MTecknologyPsi-Jack: where did you find locking_type = 3?00:12
Psi-JackMTecknology: /etc/lvm/lvm.conf00:12
MTecknologyPsi-Jack: was there a comment in there saying that's an option?00:13
Psi-JackOf course.00:13
jasonmchristosif the syntax is correct i would guess that you need to update the program interpreting the config file maybe that type is not implimented in an older version00:13
Psi-Jackit's supposed to be set to 3 when using clvm.00:13
MTecknologyPsi-Jack: did you try in [msg]? I don't have an answer, that person isn't there, and they should know exactly00:14
Psi-JackI'm beginning to wonder if it's just ubuntu doesn't compile clvm support into lvm2, yet providing cman and clvm.. Which would be strange. ;)00:17
Psi-JackAnd a packing bug of course.00:17
MTecknologyPsi-Jack: If I had my dev system still - I'd go check right now..00:17
masu3701i have an old pc...intel pentium 3 processor...797 MHz, 256 MB of ram....i was lookin for a home server...is this pc gonna be good enough00:22
MTecknologymasu3701: depends - what do you want it for?00:23
masu3701file server,00:23
MTecknologymasu3701: that's it about equals my backup/logging server00:23
masu3701how is it runing?00:24
MTecknologymasu3701: slow - but it does its job00:25
masu3701the hd is only 30gb tho00:26
MTecknologymasu3701: my backup server |  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz  |  Mem:       1025956    1005672      20284          0     326836     477968   Swap:      1959920         72    1959848   |  then a pair of 250GB drives00:29
MTecknologymasu3701: It'll work for file storage, just don't expect to stream anything from it00:29
MTecknologymasu3701: also - don't install a gui - that'll just kill things00:32
masu3701ok00:33
MTecknologymasu3701: good luck and enjoy - btw, it's the cpu limiting you, the ram is fine - i have production servers running on 360MB00:34
dvheumenhey, does anyone know how to add a disk to a raid1 array. They are *exactly* the same size, but mdadm refuses00:34
masu3701MTechnology: so i cant upgrade the hd?00:35
MTecknologymasu3701: ya you can - but you'll still suffer from the limiting processor00:35
masu3701yea00:40
masu3701can i change the processor ?00:40
masu3701i have another pc that runing amd00:41
masu3701and 512 ram00:41
masu3701its a lil faster then this one00:41
MTecknologymasu3701: best thing I can say is try it out and see what you think00:42
masu3701yea00:42
jeffesquivelbbl00:51
dvheumenDoes anyone know what causes me to have to enter my password twice before I log in. It has most likely something to do with pam settings since I have set up connection to ADS yesterday. I'm just not that familiar to recognize the incorrect setting myself.00:58
dvheumenI mean, I can give extra information of course, but I don't know whether it is actually pam.d that's giving me the trouble01:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #555414 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.6 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55541401:11
xperiahello to all. i am planning to install a secure irc server on ubuntu.01:28
xperiawhat is the best and most secure choice on ubuntu for a irc server ?01:28
Psi-JackThe one you prefer.01:30
Psi-Jack"best" questions are immaterial except to the person's own opinions. Rhetorical and useless to pretty much everyone else.01:31
xperiaPsi-Jack: i would not say this is a subjective question. programms like irc servers can be categorized in security, easy configuration, easy setup and install and so on ...01:33
xperiabased on this categorys some programms are better and some lesser. this give at the end the ranking of the irc servers from my point of view.01:33
xperiai am not speaking about client programms i am speaking about mostly demons that started once on the server they work nearly all the time.01:35
stgraberxperia: dancer-ircd is relatively easy to setup though its config is very similar to the others. For large scale IRC, I'd consider freenode's ircd (don't remember the name) as it seems quite stable, scales well and since the last change of ircd, supports SSL and SASL for authentication01:38
xperiastgraber: thank you a lot for the tip about dancer-ircd.01:40
Psi-JackAlright.01:51
Psi-JackSo what's the proper "ubuntu" way to set a service to start at boot?01:51
xperiawell i would say the proper way to setup a service to start at boot is using the command update-rc.d in ubuntu01:53
xperiahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto01:53
Psi-Jackupdate-rc.d is technically a development tool, not exactly /intended/ for normal use.01:54
Psi-JackEspecially now that ubuntu uses upstart.01:55
lukehasnonamePsi-Jack: Write an upstart script?01:55
lukehasnonameya01:55
lukehasnonameWhat I don't get is that Ubuntu is the pioneer of Upstart, and has shifted entirely (right?) to it. Yet there is zero documentation in the Server Guide about it. It isn't even mentioned, AFAIK.01:58
Psi-Jackheh01:58
xperiawell this could be very true Psi-Jack. i dont use it a lot but in the last years update-rc.d was recomended in the debian world01:59
xperiaofcourse this could be changed in the mean time. i am not such uptodate to this things.01:59
xperiaif you say upstart is now recomended in ubuntu this is probably true.01:59
xperiaI itself heare the word "upstart" for the first time today01:59
xperiahttp://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Update-rc.d#ixzz0kC7NSEyG01:59
xperiaupdate-rc.d is the Debian utility to install and remove System-V style init script links.01:59
lukehasnonameKyle Rankin? Are you in here? Document Upstart in "The Official Ubuntu Server Book 2.0" which I'm sure will come out a few months after the LTS release :)01:59
lukehasnonameWhat an excellent book.01:59
Psi-Jackrcconf was what I was looking for. The more recommended way. ;)02:04
Psi-JackOi.02:14
xperiaPsi-Jack: i must say that rcconf sound much more handy than update-rc.d. itself never used it and can not give any advice or recomendation becouse of that. The thing is if i am not wrong that it need to be installed extra on nearly every debian and it is nothing else than a frontend of update-rc.d that is allready installed.02:14
Psi-JackNow onto the KVM stuff. Seems that libvirtd is starting up it's own virbr0 with an address and dhcp range pre-determined.02:14
Psi-JackAnd why my br0 isn't even being considered OR auto-started like it should've been,02:15
xperiaare you wroking on seting up a router ? br0 sound like bridge 002:17
Psi-Jackkvm, actually.02:18
xperiadid you looked allready for some howtos ?02:20
xperiahttp://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-9.0402:20
Psi-Jackhttp://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-9.1002:23
Psi-JackThat's pretty much how I setup my network/interfaces02:23
xperiathe best thing would be if you kontakt the person "falko" probably as he has the most experience for that. i itself never have thinked till yet of virtualizations. He has about 10 Articles on howtoforge that describe howto get virtualisation on ubuntu02:30
xperiahere is another one02:31
xperiahttp://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-8.1002:31
xperiait could be probably as allways only some configuration line that make the problem02:33
ryanakcaCan someone enlighten me as to why /sbin/init and /sbin/runlevel's permissions randomly change to 000, which requires me to take a rescue disk and switch it back?02:35
ryanakcaThis started right after a fresh install02:35
jlevyI have a question about ecryptfs. I'm running jaunty server. I'm trying to create an encrypted directory. I installed ecryptfs-utils via aptitude. Now when I try to mount a folder, I get this: "Unable to get the version number of the kernel module. Please make sure that you have the eCryptfs kernel module loaded, you have sysfs mounted, and the sysfs mount point is in /etc/mtab. This is necessary so that the mount helper know02:50
jlevyIt lets me continue and specify the encryption type and key strength, and then: "Error attempting to evaluate mount options: [-22] Invalid argument Check your system logs for details on why this happened. Try updating your ecryptfs-utils package, and/or submit a bug report on https://launchpad.net/ecryptfs"02:51
jlevysyslog shows: "Apr  5 00:40:23 drupal mount.ecryptfs: Error initializing key module [/usr/lib/ecryptfs/libecryptfs_key_mod_gpg.so]; rc = [-22] Apr  5 00:46:36 drupal mount.ecryptfs: Error initializing key module [/usr/lib/ecryptfs/libecryptfs_key_mod_gpg.so]; rc = [-22] Apr  5 00:47:42 drupal mount.ecryptfs: Error initializing key module [/usr/lib/ecryptfs/libecryptfs_key_mod_gpg.so]; rc = [-22] Apr  5 00:47:52 drupal mount.e02:51
jlevyAny thoughts?02:51
ryanakca(my question relates to a server running Lucid)02:55
pmatulisjlevy: looks like your module isn't loaded03:04
jlevypmatulis: how do I check this or load it?03:05
pmatulisjlevy: '$ lsmod | grep ecryptfs'03:05
jlevypmatulis: no luck: http://pastebin.com/X3xnaKM503:08
jlevypmatulis: I just noticed a type in the path I was trying to mount to, but it did not change anything when I fixed it.03:09
jlevy*typo03:09
pmatulisjlevy: you don't have the ecryptfs module loaded (as lsmod told us) so you need to load it before continuing03:11
jlevypmatulis: ah, ok. how do I do that?03:12
pmatulisjlevy: '$ modprobe ecryptfs' and then try the lsmod command again03:12
pmatulissudo will be needed to load the module03:12
jlevypmatulis: FATAL: Module encryptfs not found.03:13
pmatulisencryptfs?03:13
jlevypmatulis: I'm sorry - FATAL: Module ecryptfs not found.03:16
pmatulisstrange03:19
jlevypmatulis: any suggestions?03:22
pmatulisjlevy: output to '$ dpkg -l ecryptfs-utils | tail -1'  perhaps03:27
jlevypmatulis: root@drupal:/home/jlevy# dpkg -l ecryptfs-utils | tail -1ii  ecryptfs-utils                    73-0ubuntu6.1                   ecryptfs cryptographic filesystem (utilities)03:28
jlevypmatulis: sorry for the poor formatting03:29
jlevypmatulis: "ii" begins the output03:29
pmatulisjlevy: sorry.  maybe try a karmic live cd to test03:34
jlevypmatulis: can03:35
jlevypmatulis: can't use a live cd, this server is in the cloud.03:35
pmatulisjlevy: what kind of cloud?03:35
jlevypmatulis: rackspace cloud server03:35
pmatulisjlevy: what kind of kernel is it running?  how was it installed>?03:36
jlevypmatulis: the server was created from their standard jaunty image03:36
RoAkSoAxkirkland, ping?03:39
xperiaquestion: i have setup the dancer-ircd server package and it run quite good but how can i tweek it a litlle. does some user howto exist for this package ? maybe a irc chanel would be not bad if somebody know it.03:41
jlevypmatulis: i'll try again another day. thanks for your help!03:47
RoAkSoAxkirkland, ping?03:53
ScottK!weekend | RoAkSoAx03:53
ubottuRoAkSoAx: It's a weekend. Often on weekends the paid developers and a lot of the community may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would or try again during the working week.03:53
RoAkSoAxkirkland, haha this time I pressed enter by mistake :)03:54
RoAkSoAxgosh03:54
RoAkSoAxScottK, haha this time I pressed enter by mistake :)03:54
MTecknologyWhere can I grab to 10.04 server iso?04:31
MTecknologyor do I jsut use the alternate cd?04:31
kirklandRoAkSoAx: pong04:46
RoAkSoAxkirkland, heya!1 was just about to drop you an email04:46
kirklandMTecknology: cdimage.ubuntu.com04:46
kirklandRoAkSoAx: what's up?04:46
RoAkSoAxkirkland, thanks for the review... however I do have some questions on your suggestions04:47
MTecknologykirkland: there's no server iso - that's where my question is coming from04:47
kirklandRoAkSoAx: okay04:47
RoAkSoAxkirkland,  * In obtain_devel_release(), you have hardcoded .cache; should use the CACHE variable04:47
kirklandMTecknology: that means the build is broken04:47
kirklandMTecknology: poke cjwatson04:47
RoAkSoAxIm hardcoding .cache because CACHE is defined after the ISO list is generated, which requires the codename. To resolve we have two options:04:47
RoAkSoAx1. Move CACHE defaults before loading configfile, however, if we change the default CACHE on the config file, the CACHE for the codename will always be the default one.04:47
RoAkSoAx2. Move the ISO list generation to a function not in the config file.04:47
MTecknologykirkland: 10.04 isn't out yet - last i knew server iso is only built for released versions04:48
kirklandMTecknology: absolutely not; it's generally built every day04:48
MTecknologykirkland: oh...04:48
kirklandMTecknology: if it's not at cdimage.ubuntu.com, then the build is broken, and needs to be fixed04:48
MTecknologykirkland: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/04:48
kirklandMTecknology: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/04:48
MTecknologyOH!04:49
MTecknologykirkland: thanks :D - sorry04:49
kirklandMTecknology: np04:49
kirklandRoAkSoAx: hrm04:49
kirklandRoAkSoAx: this is proving complicated ...04:49
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i think we will need to leave it as is for Lucid04:49
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and just SRU out the new code names as the builds become available04:50
kirklandRoAkSoAx: that's just two uploads per year04:50
RoAkSoAxkirkland, well I'm modularizing your code anyways for testdrive-gtk and I'll have the ISO list generation in a separate function which is not in the config file due to that it creates the itnerface04:51
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and fix this in a more well designed manner in Maverick04:51
kirklandRoAkSoAx: right, let's target Maverick for this change04:52
RoAkSoAxkirkland, ok then. This will be a change only for the modularized code then :)04:53
kirklandRoAkSoAx: agreed04:55
kirklandRoAkSoAx: as you're working on that, bear in mind those suggestions I had in the merge04:55
kirklandRoAkSoAx: please get your indentation to match mine04:55
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and please use native python functions rather than shell callouts04:55
RoAkSoAxkirkland, I am. I actually planned to change the codename code a little bit for the modularization.04:57
RoAkSoAxkirkland, identation is already tabs in the modularization, and will do with native python functions04:57
kirklandRoAkSoAx: thanks04:58
RoAkSoAxkirkland, btw... do you have any test cases for all the functionality of testdrive?04:59
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i don't :-(04:59
RoAkSoAxkirkland, ok not a prob :) Whenever I have a cleaner modularized code we'll have to test to see what's broken, what's not working as it should and etc05:02
kirklandRoAkSoAx: sounds good05:02
Psi-JackWhy does Ubuntu seem to have to overcomplicate things with kvm? heh05:09
uvirtbotNew bug: #555510 in samba (main) "package samba-common-bin 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.6 failed to install/upgrade: package samba-common-bin is already installed and configured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55551005:32
kobrienzul: you around?05:33
RoAkSoAxkobrien, he's surely sleeping, ping him in like 8 hours or so05:36
kobrienoh right, different timezones, cool.05:36
RoAkSoAxkobrien, what timezone are you into?05:38
kobrienRoAkSoAx: IST05:39
kobrienwhich is UTC +105:39
RoAkSoAxkobrien, wow so like 5am?05:40
RoAkSoAxor almost 6?05:40
kobrien5:40am05:40
kobrienyes05:40
RoAkSoAxwow I would be going to be by that time :)05:40
kobrienI don't sleep05:40
RoAkSoAxwow05:41
RoAkSoAxanyways im off for the nday05:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #555521 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.6.5-3 failed to install/upgrade: alamprotsess installed post-installation script tagastas lõpetamisel veakoodi 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55552106:01
Birmaanmorning all08:15
lukehasnonameIt's quiet in here08:21
kobrienmorning...i've been here all night :)08:22
kobrienand yes, it's quiet08:33
maxagazhow to do a fsck on a lvm parition from a live usb ?09:02
maxagazwhat package needs to be installed on the usb ?09:02
RoyKlvm2 iirc09:04
maxagazRoyK, but I still don't have fsck.lvm with this package09:37
RoyKhuh?09:37
RoyKlvm isn't a filesystem09:37
RoyKuse lvm to gain access to your lvm partition(s)09:38
RoyKon that or those, there is probably an ext3 filesystem09:38
maxagaztrue...09:43
uvirtbotNew bug: #555597 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55559709:57
maxagazlvdisplay gives me a path of my partition in VGName, but it's not listed in /dev when I check it, why ?11:27
maxagazis there something else to do ?11:28
RoyKwhy don't you just boot into single?11:32
maxagazRoyK, how ?11:38
maxagazRoyK, btw I found my answer... => lvm lvchange -ay ?dev/Vol/Log11:38
maxagazRoyK, then I can list the partition in dev11:39
maxagazRoyK, can you explain me how and why I should run in single mode ?11:39
RoyKstart ubuntu, hit escape when prompted (start of boot), choose linux ... system repair or whatever it's named (normally second choice)11:44
RoyKbut if you have access to the fs already, just fsck it11:44
maxagazRoyK, whatever I choose, I freezes quickly after my choice11:47
RoyKfreezes??11:47
RoyKand usb boot works?11:47
maxagazRoyK, yes, usb boot works11:48
maxagazRoyK, I had a kernel panic11:48
RoyKhm11:48
maxagazRoyK, run-init: /sbin/init: No such file or directory11:49
RoyKwhat sort of panic?11:49
maxagazthen,11:49
RoyKwtf11:49
maxagazKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!11:49
RoyKif it can't find init, something is pretty bad11:49
RoyKwhat did you do with the system?11:49
maxagazI regularly freezes because of bond11:51
maxagazIt11:51
maxagazI mean with some error about bond11:52
jerbob92hi all :)11:52
maxagazRoyK, but I never figured out why11:52
jerbob92have some question, how can i do multiple backup versions, like 30 max11:53
RoyKbond?11:53
jerbob92backup-1.tar.gz11:53
jerbob92backup-2.tar.gz11:53
RoyKjerbob92: use logrotate :)11:53
maxagazRoyK, it allows to have a master and a slave server, when the master freezes, the slave acts like the master, taking its ips...11:55
RoyKyou mean like heartbeat?11:55
jerbob92Royk, what is lograte?11:56
jerbob92cant find anything about it11:57
RoyKman logrotate_11:57
RoyK?11:57
usuario_hola12:02
usuario_pruebas12:02
usuario_any question?12:03
maxagazI can't mount my system (ext3 on lvm) with usb live, fsck detects no error, but still when I reboot the machine I get a kernel panic: run-init: /sbin/init: No such file or directory12:34
maxagazalthough /sbin/init exists12:35
jerbob92RoyK your still here?12:39
jerbob92isnt logrotate only for log files?12:40
jerbob92i want to backup a database and 2 folders12:41
jerbob92 we want to be allowed to go 30 days back into the time12:42
jerbob92so 30 files12:42
jerbob92file1.tar.gz12:42
jerbob92file2.tar.gz12:42
jerbob92and12:42
jerbob92database1.sql12:42
jerbob92database2.sql12:42
sherrjerbob92: if you are comfortable writing your own backup scripts look at things like rsync, rdiff-backup etc.13:11
sherrElse : backuppc, bacula etc. Lots of programs around that help do backups.13:12
jerbob92ok :)13:12
jerbob92im now trying sbackup commandline13:12
jerbob92but its not that configurable13:13
jerbob92hmmm13:17
jerbob92backuppc wont install13:17
uvirtbotNew bug: #555166 in nmap (main) "zenmap crashed in Lucid Lynx" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55516613:21
jerbob92got backuppc running now13:25
jerbob92but i cant acces the web panel13:25
jerbob92ahhhhhh13:42
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xperiahello everybody. have installed dancer-ircd based on this howto here14:01
xperiahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dancer-IRCD14:01
xperiafor some strange reason i have in my log14:01
xperiathis error message printed all 20 seconds14:01
xperiaMon Apr  5 15:01:21 2010 Server Error: Closing Link: services. (No C/N conf lines)14:01
xperiathe thing is that i have however this lines in my ircd.conf14:03
xperiahere is the evidence14:03
xperiaC:XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:password:services.14:03
xperiaN:XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:password:services.14:03
xperiawhat could be the Problem ?14:03
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areayafter installing and removing the krb5-admin-server and krb5-kdc packages several times (and attempting to install them from souce), i am completely unable to install the krb5-kdc package with apt-get... it just hangs at "Setting up krb5-kdc (1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-5ubuntu2.2) ..." and does absolutely nothing until i press ctrl+c... i've looked at various logs and i can't see anything specific so i'm not really sure what to do now. i'm14:13
areayusing jaunty btw14:13
ScottKHow long did you wait?14:14
areayabout 3mins? maybe i'm being impatient,..14:15
areaypossibly longer14:15
areayit asks me all the configuration questions, and then just hangs... i just don't seem to remember it taking this long the first time (when it worked)14:16
ScottKNot sure, but I doubt there are many people running Jaunty here.14:17
ScottKMost either run LTS or the current release.14:17
areayhmm...14:18
jerbob92im running jaunty14:18
areayit's the last server running jaunty, and i haven't had any problems with the karmic servers... so i might upgrade and see if that fixes the problem14:18
jerbob92i just had a similar problem14:18
jerbob92then i checked in webmin, the package was installed but nut fully14:19
jerbob92so i did apt-get --purge remove [package]14:19
jerbob92then i did a install in webmin, it was succesful14:19
tyskahello guys14:19
areayfair enough... yeah i've been pretty liberal with --purge... but to no avail14:19
tyskaim trying to use the ubuntu enterprise cloud and im having some problems, someone can help me?14:20
areayi think canonical/the ubuntu community should work closer with the developers of stuff like openldap/kerberos/openafs to make the installation and configuration process less like driving nails into your own skull14:20
ScottKareay: krb5-kdc is in Universe which means it's primarily supported by the community, so when you say "Ubuntu should ..." that could be you.14:24
ahasenackmit kerberos is in universe? wow, didn't realize that14:25
ahasenackeven heimdal14:25
ahasenackso there is no kerberos implementation in main?14:25
areayScottK, the only ubuntu documentation for openldap and kerberos is incomplete... i would love to contribute, but i actually have no idea how either work (mainly because of a lack of clear documentation)... the only well-documented way of networking ubuntu machines is with NIS and NFS (which any sysadmin will tell you is insecure and outdated)14:26
ScottKareay: sommer is the documentation lead.  If you can experiment and make progress, he can help you get it into the documentation.14:27
areayScottK, sounds good... well i can tell this is something that would benefit a lot of people, so as soon as I get it working i'll get back to you guys... i'd need to make a guide just to remember what the hell to do next time ;)14:29
ScottKareay: Excellent.  There's a wiki based community section of help.ubuntu.com that you can use to document interim progress.14:30
areayScottK, i'll upgrade to karmic first --don't wanna be posting the wrong instructions14:33
ScottKSounds reasonable.  Good luck.14:33
areaythanks for your help tho.... and if there's anyone else in here that knows *anything* about kerberos/openldap/openafs in relation to ubuntu and wants to contribute, drop me an email at alistair<dot>reay<at>gmail<dot>com14:34
ihernandezalvin,  hello. you where looking for a way to use ldap + nss ?15:27
ihernandez + nfs?15:27
wack479anyone have any suggestions for website uptime monitoring?15:44
joschiwack479: pingdom.com15:46
joschiwack479: or if self-hosted and small-scale: monit15:46
joschiotherwise the usual suspects like nagios15:46
wack479joschi: ok cool thanks15:48
RoAkSoAxivo15:57
ryanakcaCan someone enlighten me as to why /sbin/init and /sbin/runlevel's permissions randomly change to 000, which requires me to take a rescue disk and switch it back?16:29
ryanakcaThis started right after a fresh Lucid install16:29
kobrienzul?16:46
zulyes?16:48
kobrieni had an php patch to show you, just trying to dig it up now16:49
zulkobrien: ok16:49
kobrienzul: it's gone from launchpad, although there is a bug describing exactly the same thing. it's to do with apache2 not serving php from userdirs by default. my patch enabled it as it's expected behavior, but i see the debian guys don't like the idea for security reasons.17:01
zulkobrien: i dont like it either btw i am going to do the same way as the debian patch does17:05
kobrienzul: allow them to re-enable?17:06
zulkobrien: users can do whatever they want i was just going to document it17:06
kobrienI find it odd that, the bug and my patch with it, is gone.17:07
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RoAkSoAxkobrien, probably because it is marked as fix released or invalid. Do you have the bug number?17:08
kobrieni don't :( it'll be on my other machine, I'll find it later17:08
kobrienRoAkSoAx: found it, fix released.17:12
RoAkSoAxkobrien, could you give us the link17:12
RoAkSoAxor bug number?17:12
kobrienBug: 55490317:13
kobrienIt was marked invalid for ubuntu17:13
RoAkSoAxbug #55490317:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 554903 in apache2 "apache2 with mod php5 does not execute index.php" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55490317:13
kobriencan people take a look at it?17:13
kobrienzul?17:14
RoAkSoAxkobrien, have you tried to reproduce this bug?17:14
kobrienI couldn't view php files in my public_html through firefox17:14
kobrieni patched and it fixed17:15
kobrienthere's the patch17:15
kobrienStefan Fritz has a point though.17:16
RoAkSoAxkobrien, i would suggest you to talk to mathiaz since he marked it as invalid :).17:17
kobrienhmm, yes. I just assume it expected behavior that if you allow a user to have a public_html on a lamp server, they should have php17:19
kobrienzul: what you think?17:20
zuli can see both sides but Im thinking of putting a note in the conf file17:20
zulif it isnt already there17:21
kobrienright, seems reasonable.17:23
kobrienRoyK: you around?17:24
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RoyKyeah17:25
kobrienbug #55121117:26
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 551211 in lighttpd "can't bind to port 80" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55121117:26
kobrienwhich patch didn't fix it? were both tried?17:26
RoyKerm - both?17:27
* RoyK checks17:27
kobriencheers17:28
RoyKthe patch fixes the problem for IPv4, but it makes lighttpd listen to ::1 only for IPv6, rendering it quite useless for anything but testing17:29
kobrienRoyK: fair enough, thanks.17:29
rbdyckHello everyone. Hopefully this is the right channel. I'm having trouble installing. This should be simple, but after installing from CD when I try to boot for the first time I get the "boot: " prompt. What do I do there?17:34
AndyGraybealhi guys, i'm trying to get ntp to work, i'm trying to get 'windows' client to pickup time from the ntp server (i'm running ubuntu 8.10).  the windows client is saying roughly: the peer's stratum is less than the host's stratum.17:35
AndyGraybealit's windowsxp17:35
AndyGraybealany thoughts would be helpful17:35
pmatulisAndyGraybeal: any special reason you're running 8.10?17:37
AndyGraybealwell, not entirely, accept tht's what was around when i first started doing this.  i plan on upgrading to 10.4 when i have tested everything; pmatulis any thoughts on this are welcome.17:38
AndyGraybeal8.04 didn't have everything that 8.10 did at the time.  and honestly i'm afraid to do distro-upgrade at this point -- i'd rather install from scratch.  i'm running LTSP and KVM/Libvirt... i spent a lot of time getting it all to work - i'd hate for it to all break after i did a distro upgrade.17:40
pmatulisAndyGraybeal: google the winxp error i guess, a quick search showed others seeing the same thing17:44
AndyGraybealthank you pmatulis17:45
AndyGraybeali looked at most fot he articles.... i'll re-read them.17:45
* pmatulis always uses openntpd17:46
AndyGraybealdebian doesn't automatically use openntpd ?17:46
AndyGraybealer i mean ubuntu17:46
ScottKAndyGraybeal: Server upgrades are usually pretty safe.  As long as you use do-release-upgrade, it should be fine.17:47
AndyGraybealScottK: thank you for the re-assurance; i'm still worried17:47
AndyGraybealScottK: but i'll take what you said into consideration.17:48
ScottKAndyGraybeal: Back up your data (you'll do this in any case) and if the upgrade doesn't go well, reinstall.  There's no downside risk except a little time.17:48
ScottKServer upgrades usually go really fast.17:48
AndyGraybealyea, okay thank you.17:49
Zideris there a good firewall/iptables-manager with webinterface?19:04
tsimpsonZider: I think ebox has a firewall management module19:08
tsimpson!ebox19:08
ubottuebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox19:08
Ziderwell, webmin has a module too, I was thinking more of a standalone system, like a router has19:09
Ziderand less bloated :P19:09
rbdyckI re-installed Ubuntu server, it did install grub2. I still get a "boot: " prompt. When I press Enter I hear it loading, it displays "Loading /vmlinuz...". Then after a bunch of messages that scroll off the screen, I get19:26
rbdyckVFS: Cannot open root device "sr0" or unknown-block(11,0)19:26
rbdyckPlease append a correct "root=" boot option19:26
rbdyckKernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(11,0)19:27
_rubensr0 .. that's cdrom iirc, is the install cd still in the drive?19:31
xperiahello to all. i have setup successful dancer-ircd on my ubuntu-server based on this howto here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dancer-IRCD19:37
xperiabut for some strange reason i am having a little problems with the dns lookup.19:37
xperiain my dancer-ircd log i have this line here several times19:37
xperia[2010/04/05 18.24] DNS lookup timed out, new timeout 3, retries 219:38
xperiaand in the dancer-service this 3 Lines are trashing my log file every 20 seconds19:38
xperiaMon Apr  5 20:34:40 2010 Connected tomydomain.com:666719:38
xperiaMon Apr  5 20:34:40 2010 Server Error: Closing Link: services. (No C/N conf lines)19:38
xperiaMon Apr  5 20:34:40 2010 Read error from server: Operation now in progress19:38
xperiaThe C/N conf lines exist however in my Config files so this is 100% related for some strange reason to the dns problem19:38
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rbdyckNo. I removed it. I also got messages about sdb, which is the second logical SCSI drive. I have 2 RAID arrays: one is a pair of drives configured as RAID 1 (mirrored) which I set up as logical drive 0. That shows as devicd sda. The other is a pair of drives configured as RAID 0 (concatonated) which is logical drive 1. That shows as sdb. There are messages about sdb, but the messages about sda scrolled off.19:39
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_rubenrbdyck: odd .. my experience with grub2 is nearly none, so im afraid i cant help on this one19:41
rbdyckI didn't select individual programs, just standard packages. I didn't get an option to choose a boot loader, it just went ahead with grub. Not that I have any experience with others anyway.19:43
_rubengrub(2) is default unless / is on lvm, then it takes lilo19:44
_rubencould try booting from the install media and select "boot from first hdd", tho that'd leave you at the same spot most likely19:44
rbdyckI chose to install with LVM. But I saw a message that grub2 was installed.19:44
rbdyckAh!19:45
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_rubengrub2 might support / (or in fact /boot) on lvm though19:45
rbdyckGot a message "GRUB loading"... Was able to log on.19:51
rbdyckSince this is a first time install, I can reload Ubuntu. Should I choose not to install VLM?19:52
rbdyckLVM19:52
_rubenrbdyck: i prefer lvm .. but i also put /boot on a seperate non-lvm partition19:52
_ruben128MB or so usually19:53
rbdyckI have a pair of 4.2GB hard drives, mirrored, that I intend to load /boot onto. The data will go on a separate RAID 5 array. Should I install Ubuntu without LVM just to get it going?19:54
sorenrbdyck: Is it hardware raid?19:58
sorenrbdyck: Oh, never mind. I see what you mean now.19:58
_ruben4G should be enough for the complete OS usualy20:00
rbdyckOk, I disabled the pair of 8GB drives that I was going to remove anyway. I got messages about sda. One said "sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 >" "sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda"20:08
rbdyckSince the RAID controller is presenting the drives as a single logical drive, I shouldn't need LVM. Since it will not boot without the install CD, I guess I should reformat and reinstall without LVM.20:09
hggdhmathiaz_: go for the UEC test rig20:15
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mathiazhggdh: great - thanks20:15
hggdhmathiaz: tell me when you are done, I would like to check the daily20:16
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xperiahello does anbody know where i can find the server package "flashpolicyd" for ubuntu ?20:21
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rbdyckWhile that is running I removed the pair of 9GB data drives (they weren't 8GB) and installed the 6 18.2GB drives into drive trays.20:32
sherrxperia: flashpolicyd ... ughh. Doesn't appear to exist in Ubuntu repos.20:36
xperiasherr: yeah it looks like. have found the repo http://code.google.com/p/flashpolicyd/20:38
xperiait is more and more needed for the flex apllication20:38
zulkees: ping there is a new apache module that is suppose to prevent the slowloris bug for apache that im in the midle of backporting for lucid20:49
mathiazzul: hi - what's the state of remove mysql-5.0 from the lucid universe archive?20:50
zulmathiaz: there shouldnt be depending on libmysqlclient1520:50
zulmathiaz: so it should be ok to get rid of mysql 5.0 from the archve20:51
mathiazzul: apt-cache rdepends libmysqlclient15off still shows a lot of packages20:51
keeszul: neato20:52
zulmathiaz: no one made me aware of libmysqlicnet15off i guess thats what im doing tomorrow then20:52
mathiazzul: libpam-mysql for example20:53
zulmathiaz: ill have a look at it when I get back tonight20:54
mathiazzul: ok20:54
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rbdyckHmm, no difference.21:13
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rbdyckThere is an odd thing with SCSI boot messages. This server has an onboard SCSI controller, and a separate RAID SCSI card. The backlplane is served by the card, but the CD-ROM by the onboard controller. There is a message that SCSI BIOS is not loaded when there isn't a boot CD in place, but the boot sequence can find sda anyway.21:15
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jongbergs!hi22:27
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jongbergshi, i've recently installed 9.10 server but forgot to install the LAMP stack..at this moment my server do not have an internet connection..how do i install LAMP directly from the Server CD?22:29
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UnixDawghey guys22:38
UnixDawgwhat is the easiest way to configure the server install to  add a install script.22:39
UnixDawgwe want to make a install iso that installs freeswitch+fusion +apache22 + sqlite and php522:39
UnixDawgI started a script but need help making it do it on install22:40
UnixDawgany help ?22:40
rbdyckI couldn't log onto the root account after new install. The install script asked me for a user account, and a password for the email server root account, but not a password for the OS root account. It isn't accepting any password I can think of. In case something had been carried forward from a previous install, I even low-level formatted both drives, re-established the RAID 1 (mirror) array, and fully reinstalled Ubuntu.23:15
ScottKrbdyck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo23:17
rbdyckthanks23:19
jongbergshi, i've recently installed 9.10 server but forgot to install the LAMP stack..at this moment my server do not have an internet connection..how do i install LAMP directly from the Server CD?23:29
Tallkenjongbergs: completely with no knowledge if this works: try apt-cdrom add, apt-get install apache2 (...)23:42
ScottKsudo tasksel will take you back to where you can select LAMP after you add the CDROM.23:45
ChmEarlbug in python xml module. The parsers obj. is expat - xmlrpc is missing23:51

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