[00:00] <Psi-Jack> jasonmchristos: Spam is off topic on Freenode.
[00:01] <jasonmchristos> wouldnt it be that off-topic is spam?
[00:02] <MTecknology> jasonmchristos: no - perhaps you just shouldn't spam - it only irritates users - you're free to join #defcous if you would like to express your religious beliefs
[00:03] <jasonmchristos> thanks
[00:03] <jasonmchristos> sorry to irritate you
[00:04] <ScottK> jasonmchristos: It really is off topic for this channel.
[00:04] <Psi-Jack> Anyway.
[00:04] <Psi-Jack> Anyone have any thoughts about the clvm issue? ;)
[00:05] <jasonmchristos> r u developers?
[00:05] <jasonmchristos> for ubuntu?
[00:05] <MTecknology> !u
[00:06] <MTecknology> yay bot
[00:06] <jasonmchristos> lol
[00:06] <jasonmchristos> just neeeded a little encouragment see
[00:06] <MTecknology> jasonmchristos: no, this channel purpose is described in the topic
[00:08] <jasonmchristos> Psi-Jack: Are YOU sure the sysntax is correct?
[00:09] <Psi-Jack> I don't communicate with trolls, sorry.
[00:10] <MTecknology> !clvm
[00:10] <MTecknology> !info clvm
[00:11] <MTecknology> oh
[00:11] <Psi-Jack> heh
[00:11] <jasonmchristos> you just did, it would seem that it doesnt understand the locking type, so my first guess is syntax if three is indeed a valid lock type
[00:12] <MTecknology> Psi-Jack: where did you find locking_type = 3?
[00:12] <Psi-Jack> MTecknology: /etc/lvm/lvm.conf
[00:13] <MTecknology> Psi-Jack: was there a comment in there saying that's an option?
[00:13] <Psi-Jack> Of course.
[00:13] <jasonmchristos> if the syntax is correct i would guess that you need to update the program interpreting the config file maybe that type is not implimented in an older version
[00:13] <Psi-Jack> it's supposed to be set to 3 when using clvm.
[00:14] <MTecknology> Psi-Jack: did you try in [msg]? I don't have an answer, that person isn't there, and they should know exactly
[00:17] <Psi-Jack> I'm beginning to wonder if it's just ubuntu doesn't compile clvm support into lvm2, yet providing cman and clvm.. Which would be strange. ;)
[00:17] <Psi-Jack> And a packing bug of course.
[00:17] <MTecknology> Psi-Jack: If I had my dev system still - I'd go check right now..
[00:22] <masu3701> i have an old pc...intel pentium 3 processor...797 MHz, 256 MB of ram....i was lookin for a home server...is this pc gonna be good enough
[00:23] <MTecknology> masu3701: depends - what do you want it for?
[00:23] <masu3701> file server,
[00:23] <MTecknology> masu3701: that's it about equals my backup/logging server
[00:24] <masu3701> how is it runing?
[00:25] <MTecknology> masu3701: slow - but it does its job
[00:26] <masu3701> the hd is only 30gb tho
[00:29] <MTecknology> masu3701: my backup server |  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz  |  Mem:       1025956    1005672      20284          0     326836     477968   Swap:      1959920         72    1959848   |  then a pair of 250GB drives
[00:29] <MTecknology> masu3701: It'll work for file storage, just don't expect to stream anything from it
[00:32] <MTecknology> masu3701: also - don't install a gui - that'll just kill things
[00:33] <masu3701> ok
[00:34] <MTecknology> masu3701: good luck and enjoy - btw, it's the cpu limiting you, the ram is fine - i have production servers running on 360MB
[00:34] <dvheumen> hey, does anyone know how to add a disk to a raid1 array. They are *exactly* the same size, but mdadm refuses
[00:35] <masu3701> MTechnology: so i cant upgrade the hd?
[00:35] <MTecknology> masu3701: ya you can - but you'll still suffer from the limiting processor
[00:40] <masu3701> yea
[00:40] <masu3701> can i change the processor ?
[00:41] <masu3701> i have another pc that runing amd
[00:41] <masu3701> and 512 ram
[00:41] <masu3701> its a lil faster then this one
[00:42] <MTecknology> masu3701: best thing I can say is try it out and see what you think
[00:42] <masu3701> yea
[00:51] <jeffesquivel> bbl
[00:58] <dvheumen> Does anyone know what causes me to have to enter my password twice before I log in. It has most likely something to do with pam settings since I have set up connection to ADS yesterday. I'm just not that familiar to recognize the incorrect setting myself.
[01:01] <dvheumen> I mean, I can give extra information of course, but I don't know whether it is actually pam.d that's giving me the trouble
[01:28] <xperia> hello to all. i am planning to install a secure irc server on ubuntu.
[01:28] <xperia> what is the best and most secure choice on ubuntu for a irc server ?
[01:30] <Psi-Jack> The one you prefer.
[01:31] <Psi-Jack> "best" questions are immaterial except to the person's own opinions. Rhetorical and useless to pretty much everyone else.
[01:33] <xperia> Psi-Jack: i would not say this is a subjective question. programms like irc servers can be categorized in security, easy configuration, easy setup and install and so on ...
[01:33] <xperia> based on this categorys some programms are better and some lesser. this give at the end the ranking of the irc servers from my point of view.
[01:35] <xperia> i am not speaking about client programms i am speaking about mostly demons that started once on the server they work nearly all the time.
[01:38] <stgraber> xperia: dancer-ircd is relatively easy to setup though its config is very similar to the others. For large scale IRC, I'd consider freenode's ircd (don't remember the name) as it seems quite stable, scales well and since the last change of ircd, supports SSL and SASL for authentication
[01:40] <xperia> stgraber: thank you a lot for the tip about dancer-ircd.
[01:51] <Psi-Jack> Alright.
[01:51] <Psi-Jack> So what's the proper "ubuntu" way to set a service to start at boot?
[01:53] <xperia> well i would say the proper way to setup a service to start at boot is using the command update-rc.d in ubuntu
[01:53] <xperia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[01:54] <Psi-Jack> update-rc.d is technically a development tool, not exactly /intended/ for normal use.
[01:55] <Psi-Jack> Especially now that ubuntu uses upstart.
[01:55] <lukehasnoname> Psi-Jack: Write an upstart script?
[01:55] <lukehasnoname> ya
[01:58] <lukehasnoname> What I don't get is that Ubuntu is the pioneer of Upstart, and has shifted entirely (right?) to it. Yet there is zero documentation in the Server Guide about it. It isn't even mentioned, AFAIK.
[01:58] <Psi-Jack> heh
[01:59] <xperia> well this could be very true Psi-Jack. i dont use it a lot but in the last years update-rc.d was recomended in the debian world
[01:59] <xperia> ofcourse this could be changed in the mean time. i am not such uptodate to this things.
[01:59] <xperia> if you say upstart is now recomended in ubuntu this is probably true.
[01:59] <xperia> I itself heare the word "upstart" for the first time today
[01:59] <xperia> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Update-rc.d#ixzz0kC7NSEyG
[01:59] <xperia> update-rc.d is the Debian utility to install and remove System-V style init script links.
[01:59] <lukehasnoname> Kyle Rankin? Are you in here? Document Upstart in "The Official Ubuntu Server Book 2.0" which I'm sure will come out a few months after the LTS release :)
[01:59] <lukehasnoname> What an excellent book.
[02:04] <Psi-Jack> rcconf was what I was looking for. The more recommended way. ;)
[02:14] <Psi-Jack> Oi.
[02:14] <xperia> Psi-Jack: i must say that rcconf sound much more handy than update-rc.d. itself never used it and can not give any advice or recomendation becouse of that. The thing is if i am not wrong that it need to be installed extra on nearly every debian and it is nothing else than a frontend of update-rc.d that is allready installed.
[02:14] <Psi-Jack> Now onto the KVM stuff. Seems that libvirtd is starting up it's own virbr0 with an address and dhcp range pre-determined.
[02:15] <Psi-Jack> And why my br0 isn't even being considered OR auto-started like it should've been,
[02:17] <xperia> are you wroking on seting up a router ? br0 sound like bridge 0
[02:18] <Psi-Jack> kvm, actually.
[02:20] <xperia> did you looked allready for some howtos ?
[02:20] <xperia> http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-9.04
[02:23] <Psi-Jack> http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-9.10
[02:23] <Psi-Jack> That's pretty much how I setup my network/interfaces
[02:30] <xperia> the best thing would be if you kontakt the person "falko" probably as he has the most experience for that. i itself never have thinked till yet of virtualizations. He has about 10 Articles on howtoforge that describe howto get virtualisation on ubuntu
[02:31] <xperia> here is another one
[02:31] <xperia> http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-8.10
[02:33] <xperia> it could be probably as allways only some configuration line that make the problem
[02:35] <ryanakca> Can someone enlighten me as to why /sbin/init and /sbin/runlevel's permissions randomly change to 000, which requires me to take a rescue disk and switch it back?
[02:35] <ryanakca> This started right after a fresh install
[02:50] <jlevy> I have a question about ecryptfs. I'm running jaunty server. I'm trying to create an encrypted directory. I installed ecryptfs-utils via aptitude. Now when I try to mount a folder, I get this: "Unable to get the version number of the kernel module. Please make sure that you have the eCryptfs kernel module loaded, you have sysfs mounted, and the sysfs mount point is in /etc/mtab. This is necessary so that the mount helper know
[02:51] <jlevy> It lets me continue and specify the encryption type and key strength, and then: "Error attempting to evaluate mount options: [-22] Invalid argument Check your system logs for details on why this happened. Try updating your ecryptfs-utils package, and/or submit a bug report on https://launchpad.net/ecryptfs"
[02:51] <jlevy> syslog shows: "Apr  5 00:40:23 drupal mount.ecryptfs: Error initializing key module [/usr/lib/ecryptfs/libecryptfs_key_mod_gpg.so]; rc = [-22] Apr  5 00:46:36 drupal mount.ecryptfs: Error initializing key module [/usr/lib/ecryptfs/libecryptfs_key_mod_gpg.so]; rc = [-22] Apr  5 00:47:42 drupal mount.ecryptfs: Error initializing key module [/usr/lib/ecryptfs/libecryptfs_key_mod_gpg.so]; rc = [-22] Apr  5 00:47:52 drupal mount.e
[02:51] <jlevy> Any thoughts?
[02:55] <ryanakca> (my question relates to a server running Lucid)
[03:04] <pmatulis> jlevy: looks like your module isn't loaded
[03:05] <jlevy> pmatulis: how do I check this or load it?
[03:05] <pmatulis> jlevy: '$ lsmod | grep ecryptfs'
[03:08] <jlevy> pmatulis: no luck: http://pastebin.com/X3xnaKM5
[03:09] <jlevy> pmatulis: I just noticed a type in the path I was trying to mount to, but it did not change anything when I fixed it.
[03:09] <jlevy> *typo
[03:11] <pmatulis> jlevy: you don't have the ecryptfs module loaded (as lsmod told us) so you need to load it before continuing
[03:12] <jlevy> pmatulis: ah, ok. how do I do that?
[03:12] <pmatulis> jlevy: '$ modprobe ecryptfs' and then try the lsmod command again
[03:12] <pmatulis> sudo will be needed to load the module
[03:13] <jlevy> pmatulis: FATAL: Module encryptfs not found.
[03:13] <pmatulis> encryptfs?
[03:16] <jlevy> pmatulis: I'm sorry - FATAL: Module ecryptfs not found.
[03:19] <pmatulis> strange
[03:22] <jlevy> pmatulis: any suggestions?
[03:27] <pmatulis> jlevy: output to '$ dpkg -l ecryptfs-utils | tail -1'  perhaps
[03:28] <jlevy> pmatulis: root@drupal:/home/jlevy# dpkg -l ecryptfs-utils | tail -1ii  ecryptfs-utils                    73-0ubuntu6.1                   ecryptfs cryptographic filesystem (utilities)
[03:29] <jlevy> pmatulis: sorry for the poor formatting
[03:29] <jlevy> pmatulis: "ii" begins the output
[03:34] <pmatulis> jlevy: sorry.  maybe try a karmic live cd to test
[03:35] <jlevy> pmatulis: can
[03:35] <jlevy> pmatulis: can't use a live cd, this server is in the cloud.
[03:35] <pmatulis> jlevy: what kind of cloud?
[03:35] <jlevy> pmatulis: rackspace cloud server
[03:36] <pmatulis> jlevy: what kind of kernel is it running?  how was it installed>?
[03:36] <jlevy> pmatulis: the server was created from their standard jaunty image
[03:39] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, ping?
[03:41] <xperia> question: i have setup the dancer-ircd server package and it run quite good but how can i tweek it a litlle. does some user howto exist for this package ? maybe a irc chanel would be not bad if somebody know it.
[03:47] <jlevy> pmatulis: i'll try again another day. thanks for your help!
[03:53] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, ping?
[03:53] <ScottK> !weekend | RoAkSoAx
[03:54] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, haha this time I pressed enter by mistake :)
[03:54] <RoAkSoAx> gosh
[03:54] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK, haha this time I pressed enter by mistake :)
[04:31] <MTecknology> Where can I grab to 10.04 server iso?
[04:31] <MTecknology> or do I jsut use the alternate cd?
[04:46] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: pong
[04:46] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, heya!1 was just about to drop you an email
[04:46] <kirkland> MTecknology: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: what's up?
[04:47] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, thanks for the review... however I do have some questions on your suggestions
[04:47] <MTecknology> kirkland: there's no server iso - that's where my question is coming from
[04:47] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: okay
[04:47] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland,  * In obtain_devel_release(), you have hardcoded .cache; should use the CACHE variable
[04:47] <kirkland> MTecknology: that means the build is broken
[04:47] <kirkland> MTecknology: poke cjwatson
[04:47] <RoAkSoAx> Im hardcoding .cache because CACHE is defined after the ISO list is generated, which requires the codename. To resolve we have two options:
[04:47] <RoAkSoAx> 1. Move CACHE defaults before loading configfile, however, if we change the default CACHE on the config file, the CACHE for the codename will always be the default one.
[04:47] <RoAkSoAx> 2. Move the ISO list generation to a function not in the config file.
[04:48] <MTecknology> kirkland: 10.04 isn't out yet - last i knew server iso is only built for released versions
[04:48] <kirkland> MTecknology: absolutely not; it's generally built every day
[04:48] <MTecknology> kirkland: oh...
[04:48] <kirkland> MTecknology: if it's not at cdimage.ubuntu.com, then the build is broken, and needs to be fixed
[04:48] <MTecknology> kirkland: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[04:48] <kirkland> MTecknology: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[04:49] <MTecknology> OH!
[04:49] <MTecknology> kirkland: thanks :D - sorry
[04:49] <kirkland> MTecknology: np
[04:49] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: hrm
[04:49] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: this is proving complicated ...
[04:49] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i think we will need to leave it as is for Lucid
[04:50] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: and just SRU out the new code names as the builds become available
[04:50] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: that's just two uploads per year
[04:51] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, well I'm modularizing your code anyways for testdrive-gtk and I'll have the ISO list generation in a separate function which is not in the config file due to that it creates the itnerface
[04:51] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: and fix this in a more well designed manner in Maverick
[04:52] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: right, let's target Maverick for this change
[04:53] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, ok then. This will be a change only for the modularized code then :)
[04:55] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: agreed
[04:55] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: as you're working on that, bear in mind those suggestions I had in the merge
[04:55] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: please get your indentation to match mine
[04:55] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: and please use native python functions rather than shell callouts
[04:57] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, I am. I actually planned to change the codename code a little bit for the modularization.
[04:57] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, identation is already tabs in the modularization, and will do with native python functions
[04:58] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: thanks
[04:59] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, btw... do you have any test cases for all the functionality of testdrive?
[04:59] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i don't :-(
[05:02] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, ok not a prob :) Whenever I have a cleaner modularized code we'll have to test to see what's broken, what's not working as it should and etc
[05:02] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: sounds good
[05:09] <Psi-Jack> Why does Ubuntu seem to have to overcomplicate things with kvm? heh
[05:33] <kobrien> zul: you around?
[05:36] <RoAkSoAx> kobrien, he's surely sleeping, ping him in like 8 hours or so
[05:36] <kobrien> oh right, different timezones, cool.
[05:38] <RoAkSoAx> kobrien, what timezone are you into?
[05:39] <kobrien> RoAkSoAx: IST
[05:39] <kobrien> which is UTC +1
[05:40] <RoAkSoAx> kobrien, wow so like 5am?
[05:40] <RoAkSoAx> or almost 6?
[05:40] <kobrien> 5:40am
[05:40] <kobrien> yes
[05:40] <RoAkSoAx> wow I would be going to be by that time :)
[05:40] <kobrien> I don't sleep
[05:41] <RoAkSoAx> wow
[05:41] <RoAkSoAx> anyways im off for the nday
[08:15] <Birmaan> morning all
[08:21] <lukehasnoname> It's quiet in here
[08:22] <kobrien> morning...i've been here all night :)
[08:33] <kobrien> and yes, it's quiet
[09:02] <maxagaz> how to do a fsck on a lvm parition from a live usb ?
[09:02] <maxagaz> what package needs to be installed on the usb ?
[09:04] <RoyK> lvm2 iirc
[09:37] <maxagaz> RoyK, but I still don't have fsck.lvm with this package
[09:37] <RoyK> huh?
[09:37] <RoyK> lvm isn't a filesystem
[09:38] <RoyK> use lvm to gain access to your lvm partition(s)
[09:38] <RoyK> on that or those, there is probably an ext3 filesystem
[09:43] <maxagaz> true...
[11:27] <maxagaz> lvdisplay gives me a path of my partition in VGName, but it's not listed in /dev when I check it, why ?
[11:28] <maxagaz> is there something else to do ?
[11:32] <RoyK> why don't you just boot into single?
[11:38] <maxagaz> RoyK, how ?
[11:38] <maxagaz> RoyK, btw I found my answer... => lvm lvchange -ay ?dev/Vol/Log
[11:39] <maxagaz> RoyK, then I can list the partition in dev
[11:39] <maxagaz> RoyK, can you explain me how and why I should run in single mode ?
[11:44] <RoyK> start ubuntu, hit escape when prompted (start of boot), choose linux ... system repair or whatever it's named (normally second choice)
[11:44] <RoyK> but if you have access to the fs already, just fsck it
[11:47] <maxagaz> RoyK, whatever I choose, I freezes quickly after my choice
[11:47] <RoyK> freezes??
[11:47] <RoyK> and usb boot works?
[11:48] <maxagaz> RoyK, yes, usb boot works
[11:48] <maxagaz> RoyK, I had a kernel panic
[11:48] <RoyK> hm
[11:49] <maxagaz> RoyK, run-init: /sbin/init: No such file or directory
[11:49] <RoyK> what sort of panic?
[11:49] <maxagaz> then,
[11:49] <RoyK> wtf
[11:49] <maxagaz> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[11:49] <RoyK> if it can't find init, something is pretty bad
[11:49] <RoyK> what did you do with the system?
[11:51] <maxagaz> I regularly freezes because of bond
[11:51] <maxagaz> It
[11:52] <maxagaz> I mean with some error about bond
[11:52] <jerbob92> hi all :)
[11:52] <maxagaz> RoyK, but I never figured out why
[11:53] <jerbob92> have some question, how can i do multiple backup versions, like 30 max
[11:53] <RoyK> bond?
[11:53] <jerbob92> backup-1.tar.gz
[11:53] <jerbob92> backup-2.tar.gz
[11:53] <RoyK> jerbob92: use logrotate :)
[11:55] <maxagaz> RoyK, it allows to have a master and a slave server, when the master freezes, the slave acts like the master, taking its ips...
[11:55] <RoyK> you mean like heartbeat?
[11:56] <jerbob92> Royk, what is lograte?
[11:57] <jerbob92> cant find anything about it
[11:57] <RoyK> man logrotate_
[11:57] <RoyK> ?
[12:02] <usuario_> hola
[12:02] <usuario_> pruebas
[12:03] <usuario_> any question?
[12:34] <maxagaz> I can't mount my system (ext3 on lvm) with usb live, fsck detects no error, but still when I reboot the machine I get a kernel panic: run-init: /sbin/init: No such file or directory
[12:35] <maxagaz> although /sbin/init exists
[12:39] <jerbob92> RoyK your still here?
[12:40] <jerbob92> isnt logrotate only for log files?
[12:41] <jerbob92> i want to backup a database and 2 folders
[12:42] <jerbob92>  we want to be allowed to go 30 days back into the time
[12:42] <jerbob92> so 30 files
[12:42] <jerbob92> file1.tar.gz
[12:42] <jerbob92> file2.tar.gz
[12:42] <jerbob92> and
[12:42] <jerbob92> database1.sql
[12:42] <jerbob92> database2.sql
[13:11] <sherr> jerbob92: if you are comfortable writing your own backup scripts look at things like rsync, rdiff-backup etc.
[13:12] <sherr> Else : backuppc, bacula etc. Lots of programs around that help do backups.
[13:12] <jerbob92> ok :)
[13:12] <jerbob92> im now trying sbackup commandline
[13:13] <jerbob92> but its not that configurable
[13:17] <jerbob92> hmmm
[13:17] <jerbob92> backuppc wont install
[13:25] <jerbob92> got backuppc running now
[13:25] <jerbob92> but i cant acces the web panel
[13:42] <jerbob92> ahhhhhh
[14:01] <xperia> hello everybody. have installed dancer-ircd based on this howto here
[14:01] <xperia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dancer-IRCD
[14:01] <xperia> for some strange reason i have in my log
[14:01] <xperia> this error message printed all 20 seconds
[14:01] <xperia> Mon Apr  5 15:01:21 2010 Server Error: Closing Link: services. (No C/N conf lines)
[14:03] <xperia> the thing is that i have however this lines in my ircd.conf
[14:03] <xperia> here is the evidence
[14:03] <xperia> C:XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:password:services.
[14:03] <xperia> N:XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:password:services.
[14:03] <xperia> what could be the Problem ?
[14:13] <areay> after installing and removing the krb5-admin-server and krb5-kdc packages several times (and attempting to install them from souce), i am completely unable to install the krb5-kdc package with apt-get... it just hangs at "Setting up krb5-kdc (1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-5ubuntu2.2) ..." and does absolutely nothing until i press ctrl+c... i've looked at various logs and i can't see anything specific so i'm not really sure what to do now. i'm
[14:13] <areay> using jaunty btw
[14:14] <ScottK> How long did you wait?
[14:15] <areay> about 3mins? maybe i'm being impatient,..
[14:15] <areay> possibly longer
[14:16] <areay> it asks me all the configuration questions, and then just hangs... i just don't seem to remember it taking this long the first time (when it worked)
[14:17] <ScottK> Not sure, but I doubt there are many people running Jaunty here.
[14:17] <ScottK> Most either run LTS or the current release.
[14:18] <areay> hmm...
[14:18] <jerbob92> im running jaunty
[14:18] <areay> it's the last server running jaunty, and i haven't had any problems with the karmic servers... so i might upgrade and see if that fixes the problem
[14:18] <jerbob92> i just had a similar problem
[14:19] <jerbob92> then i checked in webmin, the package was installed but nut fully
[14:19] <jerbob92> so i did apt-get --purge remove [package]
[14:19] <jerbob92> then i did a install in webmin, it was succesful
[14:19] <tyska> hello guys
[14:19] <areay> fair enough... yeah i've been pretty liberal with --purge... but to no avail
[14:20] <tyska> im trying to use the ubuntu enterprise cloud and im having some problems, someone can help me?
[14:20] <areay> i think canonical/the ubuntu community should work closer with the developers of stuff like openldap/kerberos/openafs to make the installation and configuration process less like driving nails into your own skull
[14:24] <ScottK> areay: krb5-kdc is in Universe which means it's primarily supported by the community, so when you say "Ubuntu should ..." that could be you.
[14:25] <ahasenack> mit kerberos is in universe? wow, didn't realize that
[14:25] <ahasenack> even heimdal
[14:25] <ahasenack> so there is no kerberos implementation in main?
[14:26] <areay> ScottK, the only ubuntu documentation for openldap and kerberos is incomplete... i would love to contribute, but i actually have no idea how either work (mainly because of a lack of clear documentation)... the only well-documented way of networking ubuntu machines is with NIS and NFS (which any sysadmin will tell you is insecure and outdated)
[14:27] <ScottK> areay: sommer is the documentation lead.  If you can experiment and make progress, he can help you get it into the documentation.
[14:29] <areay> ScottK, sounds good... well i can tell this is something that would benefit a lot of people, so as soon as I get it working i'll get back to you guys... i'd need to make a guide just to remember what the hell to do next time ;)
[14:30] <ScottK> areay: Excellent.  There's a wiki based community section of help.ubuntu.com that you can use to document interim progress.
[14:33] <areay> ScottK, i'll upgrade to karmic first --don't wanna be posting the wrong instructions
[14:33] <ScottK> Sounds reasonable.  Good luck.
[14:34] <areay> thanks for your help tho.... and if there's anyone else in here that knows *anything* about kerberos/openldap/openafs in relation to ubuntu and wants to contribute, drop me an email at alistair<dot>reay<at>gmail<dot>com
[15:27] <ihernandez> alvin,  hello. you where looking for a way to use ldap + nss ?
[15:27] <ihernandez>  + nfs?
[15:44] <wack479> anyone have any suggestions for website uptime monitoring?
[15:46] <joschi> wack479: pingdom.com
[15:46] <joschi> wack479: or if self-hosted and small-scale: monit
[15:46] <joschi> otherwise the usual suspects like nagios
[15:48] <wack479> joschi: ok cool thanks
[15:57] <RoAkSoAx> ivo
[16:29] <ryanakca> Can someone enlighten me as to why /sbin/init and /sbin/runlevel's permissions randomly change to 000, which requires me to take a rescue disk and switch it back?
[16:29] <ryanakca> This started right after a fresh Lucid install
[16:46] <kobrien> zul?
[16:48] <zul> yes?
[16:49] <kobrien> i had an php patch to show you, just trying to dig it up now
[16:49] <zul> kobrien: ok
[17:01] <kobrien> zul: it's gone from launchpad, although there is a bug describing exactly the same thing. it's to do with apache2 not serving php from userdirs by default. my patch enabled it as it's expected behavior, but i see the debian guys don't like the idea for security reasons.
[17:05] <zul> kobrien: i dont like it either btw i am going to do the same way as the debian patch does
[17:06] <kobrien> zul: allow them to re-enable?
[17:06] <zul> kobrien: users can do whatever they want i was just going to document it
[17:07] <kobrien> I find it odd that, the bug and my patch with it, is gone.
[17:08] <RoAkSoAx> kobrien, probably because it is marked as fix released or invalid. Do you have the bug number?
[17:08] <kobrien> i don't :( it'll be on my other machine, I'll find it later
[17:12] <kobrien> RoAkSoAx: found it, fix released.
[17:12] <RoAkSoAx> kobrien, could you give us the link
[17:12] <RoAkSoAx> or bug number?
[17:13] <kobrien> Bug: 554903
[17:13] <kobrien> It was marked invalid for ubuntu
[17:13] <RoAkSoAx> bug #554903
[17:13] <kobrien> can people take a look at it?
[17:14] <kobrien> zul?
[17:14] <RoAkSoAx> kobrien, have you tried to reproduce this bug?
[17:14] <kobrien> I couldn't view php files in my public_html through firefox
[17:15] <kobrien> i patched and it fixed
[17:15] <kobrien> there's the patch
[17:16] <kobrien> Stefan Fritz has a point though.
[17:17] <RoAkSoAx> kobrien, i would suggest you to talk to mathiaz since he marked it as invalid :).
[17:19] <kobrien> hmm, yes. I just assume it expected behavior that if you allow a user to have a public_html on a lamp server, they should have php
[17:20] <kobrien> zul: what you think?
[17:20] <zul> i can see both sides but Im thinking of putting a note in the conf file
[17:21] <zul> if it isnt already there
[17:23] <kobrien> right, seems reasonable.
[17:24] <kobrien> RoyK: you around?
[17:25] <RoyK> yeah
[17:26] <kobrien> bug #551211
[17:26] <kobrien> which patch didn't fix it? were both tried?
[17:27] <RoyK> erm - both?
[17:27]  * RoyK checks
[17:28] <kobrien> cheers
[17:29] <RoyK> the patch fixes the problem for IPv4, but it makes lighttpd listen to ::1 only for IPv6, rendering it quite useless for anything but testing
[17:29] <kobrien> RoyK: fair enough, thanks.
[17:34] <rbdyck> Hello everyone. Hopefully this is the right channel. I'm having trouble installing. This should be simple, but after installing from CD when I try to boot for the first time I get the "boot: " prompt. What do I do there?
[17:35] <AndyGraybeal> hi guys, i'm trying to get ntp to work, i'm trying to get 'windows' client to pickup time from the ntp server (i'm running ubuntu 8.10).  the windows client is saying roughly: the peer's stratum is less than the host's stratum.
[17:35] <AndyGraybeal> it's windowsxp
[17:35] <AndyGraybeal> any thoughts would be helpful
[17:37] <pmatulis> AndyGraybeal: any special reason you're running 8.10?
[17:38] <AndyGraybeal> well, not entirely, accept tht's what was around when i first started doing this.  i plan on upgrading to 10.4 when i have tested everything; pmatulis any thoughts on this are welcome.
[17:40] <AndyGraybeal> 8.04 didn't have everything that 8.10 did at the time.  and honestly i'm afraid to do distro-upgrade at this point -- i'd rather install from scratch.  i'm running LTSP and KVM/Libvirt... i spent a lot of time getting it all to work - i'd hate for it to all break after i did a distro upgrade.
[17:44] <pmatulis> AndyGraybeal: google the winxp error i guess, a quick search showed others seeing the same thing
[17:45] <AndyGraybeal> thank you pmatulis
[17:45] <AndyGraybeal> i looked at most fot he articles.... i'll re-read them.
[17:46]  * pmatulis always uses openntpd
[17:46] <AndyGraybeal> debian doesn't automatically use openntpd ?
[17:46] <AndyGraybeal> er i mean ubuntu
[17:47] <ScottK> AndyGraybeal: Server upgrades are usually pretty safe.  As long as you use do-release-upgrade, it should be fine.
[17:47] <AndyGraybeal> ScottK: thank you for the re-assurance; i'm still worried
[17:48] <AndyGraybeal> ScottK: but i'll take what you said into consideration.
[17:48] <ScottK> AndyGraybeal: Back up your data (you'll do this in any case) and if the upgrade doesn't go well, reinstall.  There's no downside risk except a little time.
[17:48] <ScottK> Server upgrades usually go really fast.
[17:49] <AndyGraybeal> yea, okay thank you.
[19:04] <Zider> is there a good firewall/iptables-manager with webinterface?
[19:08] <tsimpson> Zider: I think ebox has a firewall management module
[19:08] <tsimpson> !ebox
[19:09] <Zider> well, webmin has a module too, I was thinking more of a standalone system, like a router has
[19:09] <Zider> and less bloated :P
[19:26] <rbdyck> I re-installed Ubuntu server, it did install grub2. I still get a "boot: " prompt. When I press Enter I hear it loading, it displays "Loading /vmlinuz...". Then after a bunch of messages that scroll off the screen, I get
[19:26] <rbdyck> VFS: Cannot open root device "sr0" or unknown-block(11,0)
[19:26] <rbdyck> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
[19:27] <rbdyck> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(11,0)
[19:31] <_ruben> sr0 .. that's cdrom iirc, is the install cd still in the drive?
[19:37] <xperia> hello to all. i have setup successful dancer-ircd on my ubuntu-server based on this howto here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dancer-IRCD
[19:37] <xperia> but for some strange reason i am having a little problems with the dns lookup.
[19:37] <xperia> in my dancer-ircd log i have this line here several times
[19:38] <xperia> [2010/04/05 18.24] DNS lookup timed out, new timeout 3, retries 2
[19:38] <xperia> and in the dancer-service this 3 Lines are trashing my log file every 20 seconds
[19:38] <xperia> Mon Apr  5 20:34:40 2010 Connected tomydomain.com:6667
[19:38] <xperia> Mon Apr  5 20:34:40 2010 Server Error: Closing Link: services. (No C/N conf lines)
[19:38] <xperia> Mon Apr  5 20:34:40 2010 Read error from server: Operation now in progress
[19:38] <xperia> The C/N conf lines exist however in my Config files so this is 100% related for some strange reason to the dns problem
[19:39] <rbdyck> No. I removed it. I also got messages about sdb, which is the second logical SCSI drive. I have 2 RAID arrays: one is a pair of drives configured as RAID 1 (mirrored) which I set up as logical drive 0. That shows as devicd sda. The other is a pair of drives configured as RAID 0 (concatonated) which is logical drive 1. That shows as sdb. There are messages about sdb, but the messages about sda scrolled off.
[19:41] <_ruben> rbdyck: odd .. my experience with grub2 is nearly none, so im afraid i cant help on this one
[19:43] <rbdyck> I didn't select individual programs, just standard packages. I didn't get an option to choose a boot loader, it just went ahead with grub. Not that I have any experience with others anyway.
[19:44] <_ruben> grub(2) is default unless / is on lvm, then it takes lilo
[19:44] <_ruben> could try booting from the install media and select "boot from first hdd", tho that'd leave you at the same spot most likely
[19:44] <rbdyck> I chose to install with LVM. But I saw a message that grub2 was installed.
[19:45] <rbdyck> Ah!
[19:45] <_ruben> grub2 might support / (or in fact /boot) on lvm though
[19:51] <rbdyck> Got a message "GRUB loading"... Was able to log on.
[19:52] <rbdyck> Since this is a first time install, I can reload Ubuntu. Should I choose not to install VLM?
[19:52] <rbdyck> LVM
[19:52] <_ruben> rbdyck: i prefer lvm .. but i also put /boot on a seperate non-lvm partition
[19:53] <_ruben> 128MB or so usually
[19:54] <rbdyck> I have a pair of 4.2GB hard drives, mirrored, that I intend to load /boot onto. The data will go on a separate RAID 5 array. Should I install Ubuntu without LVM just to get it going?
[19:58] <soren> rbdyck: Is it hardware raid?
[19:58] <soren> rbdyck: Oh, never mind. I see what you mean now.
[20:00] <_ruben> 4G should be enough for the complete OS usualy
[20:08] <rbdyck> Ok, I disabled the pair of 8GB drives that I was going to remove anyway. I got messages about sda. One said "sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 >" "sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda"
[20:09] <rbdyck> Since the RAID controller is presenting the drives as a single logical drive, I shouldn't need LVM. Since it will not boot without the install CD, I guess I should reformat and reinstall without LVM.
[20:15] <hggdh> mathiaz_: go for the UEC test rig
[20:15] <mathiaz> hggdh: great - thanks
[20:16] <hggdh> mathiaz: tell me when you are done, I would like to check the daily
[20:21] <xperia> hello does anbody know where i can find the server package "flashpolicyd" for ubuntu ?
[20:32] <rbdyck> While that is running I removed the pair of 9GB data drives (they weren't 8GB) and installed the 6 18.2GB drives into drive trays.
[20:36] <sherr> xperia: flashpolicyd ... ughh. Doesn't appear to exist in Ubuntu repos.
[20:38] <xperia> sherr: yeah it looks like. have found the repo http://code.google.com/p/flashpolicyd/
[20:38] <xperia> it is more and more needed for the flex apllication
[20:49] <zul> kees: ping there is a new apache module that is suppose to prevent the slowloris bug for apache that im in the midle of backporting for lucid
[20:50] <mathiaz> zul: hi - what's the state of remove mysql-5.0 from the lucid universe archive?
[20:50] <zul> mathiaz: there shouldnt be depending on libmysqlclient15
[20:51] <zul> mathiaz: so it should be ok to get rid of mysql 5.0 from the archve
[20:51] <mathiaz> zul: apt-cache rdepends libmysqlclient15off still shows a lot of packages
[20:52] <kees> zul: neato
[20:52] <zul> mathiaz: no one made me aware of libmysqlicnet15off i guess thats what im doing tomorrow then
[20:53] <mathiaz> zul: libpam-mysql for example
[20:54] <zul> mathiaz: ill have a look at it when I get back tonight
[20:54] <mathiaz> zul: ok
[21:13] <rbdyck> Hmm, no difference.
[21:15] <rbdyck> There is an odd thing with SCSI boot messages. This server has an onboard SCSI controller, and a separate RAID SCSI card. The backlplane is served by the card, but the CD-ROM by the onboard controller. There is a message that SCSI BIOS is not loaded when there isn't a boot CD in place, but the boot sequence can find sda anyway.
[22:27] <jongbergs> !hi
[22:29] <jongbergs> hi, i've recently installed 9.10 server but forgot to install the LAMP stack..at this moment my server do not have an internet connection..how do i install LAMP directly from the Server CD?
[22:38] <UnixDawg> hey guys
[22:39] <UnixDawg> what is the easiest way to configure the server install to  add a install script.
[22:39] <UnixDawg> we want to make a install iso that installs freeswitch+fusion +apache22 + sqlite and php5
[22:40] <UnixDawg> I started a script but need help making it do it on install
[22:40] <UnixDawg> any help ?
[23:15] <rbdyck> I couldn't log onto the root account after new install. The install script asked me for a user account, and a password for the email server root account, but not a password for the OS root account. It isn't accepting any password I can think of. In case something had been carried forward from a previous install, I even low-level formatted both drives, re-established the RAID 1 (mirror) array, and fully reinstalled Ubuntu.
[23:17] <ScottK> rbdyck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:19] <rbdyck> thanks
[23:29] <jongbergs> hi, i've recently installed 9.10 server but forgot to install the LAMP stack..at this moment my server do not have an internet connection..how do i install LAMP directly from the Server CD?
[23:42] <Tallken> jongbergs: completely with no knowledge if this works: try apt-cdrom add, apt-get install apache2 (...)
[23:45] <ScottK> sudo tasksel will take you back to where you can select LAMP after you add the CDROM.
[23:51] <ChmEarl> bug in python xml module. The parsers obj. is expat - xmlrpc is missing