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rauldipeashi, I'm Raul Dipeas from Brazil, (algum brasileiro ae?)12:37
jussi01hi rauldipeas. Just english here Im afraid12:53
rauldipeashehe, OK12:54
rauldipeasmy english is bad :S12:54
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* sobukus is desperate21:20
sobukusI really need to add the install DVD as source medium because mz internets is slow21:20
sobukusbut that ******* system seems to be broken21:20
sobukusI remember a popup after inserting the dvd that prompts me to use it with synaptic, but that does not come anymore21:21
sobukusand any other way to use the dvd seems to be doomed21:21
sobukusI cannot add it as cdrom source21:21
sobukusIs there a foolproof way to get that damned pool on the dvd into apt?21:21
sobukuscould it be that the system is totally confused between my two DVD drives and teh fact taht I installed from the ubuntu ludic live cd, then added stuff from the ubuntustudio lucid dvd?21:23
sobukusYou see, the initial package adding worked with the dvd...21:24
sobukusAha, managed to fool apt into using a custom mount of the DVD as a file source21:31
sobukusThe cdrom stuff in apt seems to be broken with ubuntu (studio=21:31
sobukusPerhaps I can isntall the stuff now21:31
sobukusbut I guess this error will persist:21:32
* holstein reading21:32
sobukusdpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von ubuntustudio-plymouth-theme (--configure): Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 2 zurück21:32
sobukus(ubuntustudio-plymouth-theme fails to configure ... does that matter when plymouth crashes anyway after boot?)21:32
holsteinsobukus: just dont install the theme21:33
holsteinubuntustudio-theme21:33
holsteinyou dont need that part21:33
sobukuswhen I uninstall it, ubuntustudio-desktop is uninstalled IMHO21:34
holsteinyup21:34
holsteinand thats fine too21:34
* sobukus is relieved that synaptic now installes from the DVD when tricked into it not being a DVD21:34
sobukushm21:35
sobukusSo I suppose it's a known bug that is being fixed?21:35
holsteinubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt21:35
holsteinthose are all the studio meta-packages21:35
sobukusI have to sort out my memories from today to figure out how manz bug reports I should try to do21:35
sobukusI'm installing most of them now ... linux-rt is already there...21:36
holstein-desktop is not really necessary21:36
sobukusok21:36
holsteinyou can pick and choose21:36
holsteinOR21:36
holsteinyou can install what you need21:36
holsteinLIKE21:36
holsteinyou dont have to install ubuntustudio-audio21:36
sobukusBtw... the most blatant bug I experienced...21:37
holsteinif all your going to use is JACK and ardor21:37
holsteinardour*21:37
sobukusreason for my curretn rage and that I'm still not at home where I should be sleeping now ...21:37
holsteinyou can always just get what you need from the repo21:37
sobukusI thought that plymouth is unneeded clutter...21:37
sobukustried to remove it21:37
sobukusin the software center21:37
holsteinnah21:37
sobukusI also removed plymouth-shared-lib21:37
holsteini think plymouth is a new thing21:38
sobukusand then... suddenly WITHOUT A WARNING21:38
sobukusX vanishes21:38
holsteinyup21:38
holsteinits needed now21:38
sobukusswitching to the console...21:38
sobukusand about EVERYTHING has been silently removed21:38
holsteinhmmm21:38
sobukuslike, /bin/ls is not there anymore21:38
sobukusor hal, or reboot21:38
sobukusor shutdown21:38
holsteinthats strange21:38
holsteinare you SU21:39
sobukusit reaped the whole system21:39
holsteinor sudo?21:39
sobukusI was, yes21:39
sobukussudo su21:39
holsteininteresting21:39
holsteini guess that all could be a plymouth bug21:39
sobukusthe software center was ran as normal user21:39
holsteinthis is lucid?21:39
holsteinright?21:39
sobukusyes21:39
holsteinhmmm21:39
holsteini suppose that could be the deal21:39
holsteinyou might want to try #ubuntu+121:40
holsteinand see if thats a bug or whatever21:40
sobukusWhat I don't get: synaptic warns you about stuff that gets removed because you are removing a dependency.21:40
holsteinim not sure21:40
holsteinsobukus: you would think21:40
holsteinit should21:40
sobukusbut the software center is supposed to rip the whole system apart without a warning?21:40
holsteinim not sure21:40
holsteini havent used it yet21:40
sobukusI won't use it again that soon, too21:41
holsteinlol21:41
holsteinyeah, im just use to synaptic21:41
sobukusso... should I jump over launchpad for this?21:41
holsteinyou could try21:41
sobukusor yel in that other channel?21:41
sobukusWell.. I really hope that the trouble stops after installing21:42
holsteinsomeone should be aware of what happened by removing plymouth in the software center21:42
sobukusbtw... are you successful in configuring the system to route all audio to jack?21:42
sobukusthere is both pulse jack plugin and alsa jack plugin21:42
* sobukus actually would like jack to be started and used automatically with the firwire audio21:44
holsteinsobukus: JACK turns pulse off21:44
holsteinwhen im ready to track or mix21:44
holsteinand thats enough for me21:44
sobukusalso in lucid?21:44
sobukusah, in your setup21:44
holsteini have a seperate studio box21:44
holsteinand i dont even have flash installed on it21:44
holsteinsobukus: i have not updated to lucid yet21:45
sobukuswell, people tend to want to peek into the internet on the only box that's here21:45
sobukuswhen showing you some song they found... it has to be a video on youtube:-/21:45
wirelessdreamerholstein: what about when you have 2 soundcards and want jack to run one and pulse to run the other?21:46
sobukusEhw... ubuntustudio-audio depends on mpg32121:47
sobukuswhy not mpg123, that's faster and currently maintained21:48
* sobukus happens to maintain it;-)21:48
holsteinwirelessdreamer: w0w21:48
holsteindoes that work for you?21:48
wirelessdreamernope, I tried with 10.4 for a week or so21:49
wirelessdreamerusing gentoo on my pro audio box21:49
holsteinfor me, as long as pulse gets out of the way21:49
wirelessdreamerhave ubuntu on my non audio boxes so thought i'd give it a try21:49
holsteinand my firewire device works21:49
holsteinim happy21:49
holsteinBUT i can see the appeal21:49
wirelessdreamerall ubuntu studio boxes with rt kernels i've tried don't behave for me with zynaddsubfx21:49
holsteinwirelessdreamer: there was an issue21:50
wirelessdreamerroute headphone out on proaudio card to line on on pulse card out to bt headphones21:50
holsteinthe new package is called yoshimi?21:50
wirelessdreameryea i've been using yoshimi and another fork on and off21:50
holsteinOH ok21:51
holsteinsobukus: you should join the dev mailinglist21:51
holsteinand shout out about mpg12321:51
holsteinthere is a lot to keep track of up and down stream i bet21:51
sobukusyeah... but now I need to care about my stream carrying me home from teh stdudio21:53

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