[12:37] <rauldipeas> hi, I'm Raul Dipeas from Brazil, (algum brasileiro ae?)
[12:53] <jussi01> hi rauldipeas. Just english here Im afraid
[12:54] <rauldipeas> hehe, OK
[12:54] <rauldipeas> my english is bad :S
[21:20]  * sobukus is desperate
[21:20] <sobukus> I really need to add the install DVD as source medium because mz internets is slow
[21:20] <sobukus> but that ******* system seems to be broken
[21:21] <sobukus> I remember a popup after inserting the dvd that prompts me to use it with synaptic, but that does not come anymore
[21:21] <sobukus> and any other way to use the dvd seems to be doomed
[21:21] <sobukus> I cannot add it as cdrom source
[21:21] <sobukus> Is there a foolproof way to get that damned pool on the dvd into apt?
[21:23] <sobukus> could it be that the system is totally confused between my two DVD drives and teh fact taht I installed from the ubuntu ludic live cd, then added stuff from the ubuntustudio lucid dvd?
[21:24] <sobukus> You see, the initial package adding worked with the dvd...
[21:31] <sobukus> Aha, managed to fool apt into using a custom mount of the DVD as a file source
[21:31] <sobukus> The cdrom stuff in apt seems to be broken with ubuntu (studio=
[21:31] <sobukus> Perhaps I can isntall the stuff now
[21:32] <sobukus> but I guess this error will persist:
[21:32]  * holstein reading
[21:32] <sobukus> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von ubuntustudio-plymouth-theme (--configure): Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 2 zurück
[21:32] <sobukus> (ubuntustudio-plymouth-theme fails to configure ... does that matter when plymouth crashes anyway after boot?)
[21:33] <holstein> sobukus: just dont install the theme
[21:33] <holstein> ubuntustudio-theme
[21:33] <holstein> you dont need that part
[21:34] <sobukus> when I uninstall it, ubuntustudio-desktop is uninstalled IMHO
[21:34] <holstein> yup
[21:34] <holstein> and thats fine too
[21:34]  * sobukus is relieved that synaptic now installes from the DVD when tricked into it not being a DVD
[21:35] <sobukus> hm
[21:35] <sobukus> So I suppose it's a known bug that is being fixed?
[21:35] <holstein> ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt
[21:35] <holstein> those are all the studio meta-packages
[21:35] <sobukus> I have to sort out my memories from today to figure out how manz bug reports I should try to do
[21:36] <sobukus> I'm installing most of them now ... linux-rt is already there...
[21:36] <holstein> -desktop is not really necessary
[21:36] <sobukus> ok
[21:36] <holstein> you can pick and choose
[21:36] <holstein> OR
[21:36] <holstein> you can install what you need
[21:36] <holstein> LIKE
[21:36] <holstein> you dont have to install ubuntustudio-audio
[21:37] <sobukus> Btw... the most blatant bug I experienced...
[21:37] <holstein> if all your going to use is JACK and ardor
[21:37] <holstein> ardour*
[21:37] <sobukus> reason for my curretn rage and that I'm still not at home where I should be sleeping now ...
[21:37] <holstein> you can always just get what you need from the repo
[21:37] <sobukus> I thought that plymouth is unneeded clutter...
[21:37] <sobukus> tried to remove it
[21:37] <sobukus> in the software center
[21:37] <holstein> nah
[21:37] <sobukus> I also removed plymouth-shared-lib
[21:38] <holstein> i think plymouth is a new thing
[21:38] <sobukus> and then... suddenly WITHOUT A WARNING
[21:38] <sobukus> X vanishes
[21:38] <holstein> yup
[21:38] <holstein> its needed now
[21:38] <sobukus> switching to the console...
[21:38] <sobukus> and about EVERYTHING has been silently removed
[21:38] <holstein> hmmm
[21:38] <sobukus> like, /bin/ls is not there anymore
[21:38] <sobukus> or hal, or reboot
[21:38] <sobukus> or shutdown
[21:38] <holstein> thats strange
[21:39] <holstein> are you SU
[21:39] <sobukus> it reaped the whole system
[21:39] <holstein> or sudo?
[21:39] <sobukus> I was, yes
[21:39] <sobukus> sudo su
[21:39] <holstein> interesting
[21:39] <holstein> i guess that all could be a plymouth bug
[21:39] <sobukus> the software center was ran as normal user
[21:39] <holstein> this is lucid?
[21:39] <holstein> right?
[21:39] <sobukus> yes
[21:39] <holstein> hmmm
[21:39] <holstein> i suppose that could be the deal
[21:40] <holstein> you might want to try #ubuntu+1
[21:40] <holstein> and see if thats a bug or whatever
[21:40] <sobukus> What I don't get: synaptic warns you about stuff that gets removed because you are removing a dependency.
[21:40] <holstein> im not sure
[21:40] <holstein> sobukus: you would think
[21:40] <holstein> it should
[21:40] <sobukus> but the software center is supposed to rip the whole system apart without a warning?
[21:40] <holstein> im not sure
[21:40] <holstein> i havent used it yet
[21:41] <sobukus> I won't use it again that soon, too
[21:41] <holstein> lol
[21:41] <holstein> yeah, im just use to synaptic
[21:41] <sobukus> so... should I jump over launchpad for this?
[21:41] <holstein> you could try
[21:41] <sobukus> or yel in that other channel?
[21:42] <sobukus> Well.. I really hope that the trouble stops after installing
[21:42] <holstein> someone should be aware of what happened by removing plymouth in the software center
[21:42] <sobukus> btw... are you successful in configuring the system to route all audio to jack?
[21:42] <sobukus> there is both pulse jack plugin and alsa jack plugin
[21:44]  * sobukus actually would like jack to be started and used automatically with the firwire audio
[21:44] <holstein> sobukus: JACK turns pulse off
[21:44] <holstein> when im ready to track or mix
[21:44] <holstein> and thats enough for me
[21:44] <sobukus> also in lucid?
[21:44] <sobukus> ah, in your setup
[21:44] <holstein> i have a seperate studio box
[21:44] <holstein> and i dont even have flash installed on it
[21:45] <holstein> sobukus: i have not updated to lucid yet
[21:45] <sobukus> well, people tend to want to peek into the internet on the only box that's here
[21:45] <sobukus> when showing you some song they found... it has to be a video on youtube:-/
[21:46] <wirelessdreamer> holstein: what about when you have 2 soundcards and want jack to run one and pulse to run the other?
[21:47] <sobukus> Ehw... ubuntustudio-audio depends on mpg321
[21:48] <sobukus> why not mpg123, that's faster and currently maintained
[21:48]  * sobukus happens to maintain it;-)
[21:48] <holstein> wirelessdreamer: w0w
[21:48] <holstein> does that work for you?
[21:49] <wirelessdreamer> nope, I tried with 10.4 for a week or so
[21:49] <wirelessdreamer> using gentoo on my pro audio box
[21:49] <holstein> for me, as long as pulse gets out of the way
[21:49] <wirelessdreamer> have ubuntu on my non audio boxes so thought i'd give it a try
[21:49] <holstein> and my firewire device works
[21:49] <holstein> im happy
[21:49] <holstein> BUT i can see the appeal
[21:49] <wirelessdreamer> all ubuntu studio boxes with rt kernels i've tried don't behave for me with zynaddsubfx
[21:50] <holstein> wirelessdreamer: there was an issue
[21:50] <wirelessdreamer> route headphone out on proaudio card to line on on pulse card out to bt headphones
[21:50] <holstein> the new package is called yoshimi?
[21:50] <wirelessdreamer> yea i've been using yoshimi and another fork on and off
[21:51] <holstein> OH ok
[21:51] <holstein> sobukus: you should join the dev mailinglist
[21:51] <holstein> and shout out about mpg123
[21:51] <holstein> there is a lot to keep track of up and down stream i bet
[21:53] <sobukus> yeah... but now I need to care about my stream carrying me home from teh stdudio