[01:07] <telexl> hello room.  I've just booted the Xubuntu 9.10 live CD on my Compaq Presario notebook.  I needed to boot with 'safe graphics mode', or nothing appeared on the screen.  I've got a login prompt, which surprises me.  What do I login as?
[01:08] <hatake_kakashi> try ubuntu or live
[01:08] <telexl> hatake_kakashi: thanks.  i'll try it now.
[01:09] <telexl> it's rather slow - it's got a 500 MHz Celeron and 192MB RAM - takes a long time.
[01:10] <hatake_kakashi> yeah you do realise you are somewhat pushing the limits
[01:10] <hatake_kakashi> but probably the biggest bottleneck would be going through cd
[01:14] <telexl> hatake_kakashi: yes - it's quite slow.  I've tried various combinations of 'ubuntu' and 'live' as the username and password, and it's not accepting it.  I think something else is going on here.
[01:14] <telexl> Maybe I should try something 'leaner', such as Slackware?
[01:18] <hatake_kakashi> that or maybe something like puppylinux
[01:19] <telexl> hatake_kakashi: :)  Actually I have Puppy installed, but I needed a live environment to flash the firmware of a prism2 CF wireless card that is from a Zaurus SL-5500.  It's all got quite complicated.
[01:30] <telexl> thanks.  logging out
[02:45] <bearodactyl> anyone know how to adjust mouse DPI or otherwise lower the sensitivity in xfce?
[02:45] <bearodactyl> its killing me.  so sensitive
[02:45] <hatake_kakashi> Applications > Settings > Mouse
[02:49] <bearodactyl> Still crazy fast, I tried that two days ago lol.  xset m blah/blah has almost no effect even at crazy settings.  razertool-gtk doesn't work either.
[02:49] <bearodactyl> hang though, i think I found something o nthe forums...
[02:50] <hatake_kakashi> what, even at the lowest setting?
[02:50] <el3ment> hey :P
[02:50] <hatake_kakashi> hi
[02:52] <bearodactyl> hatake_kakashi: yes, it does make a difference, but its still outrageously fast
[02:52] <el3ment> i have a question - where can download ubuntu x64 cuz in official site is only x86
[02:52] <hatake_kakashi> bearodactyl, and you have a razor mouse? isn't there a profile setting on the bottom of the mouse which can be switched on the dial
[02:52] <hatake_kakashi> el3ment, its called amd64
[02:54] <el3ment> hmm
[02:54] <bearodactyl> hatake_kakashi: not on the one I have
[02:54] <el3ment> hatake_kakashi can u give me a link to this 64 bit distribution cant find it
[02:55] <bearodactyl> opps
[02:55] <bearodactyl> oops* lol
[02:55] <hatake_kakashi> bearodactyl, weird, older mouse I gather? the one I had was copperhead
[02:55] <hatake_kakashi> el3ment, you can't see amd64?
[02:56] <bearodactyl> yeah, its a razer pro|click, which is basically a white copperhead marketed at mac users.  few years old.
[02:56] <el3ment> nope oly lin 9.10 32 bit
[02:56] <el3ment> nope oly link 9.10 32 bit
[02:56] <bearodactyl> I have a ps/2 ball mouse that works fine...but its a freaking ball mouse.
[02:56] <bearodactyl> don't want to use it
[02:56] <hatake_kakashi> humm don't have that mouse but on mine its on the bottom of the mouse, there's a button on there
[02:57] <el3ment> hatake_kakashi see --> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[02:57] <el3ment> only 32 bit version
[02:59] <hatake_kakashi> el3ment, I can see 64 bit version for download, maybe you forgot to select advanced options or something
[02:59] <el3ment> im want to run home desktop ubuntu not server :)
[02:59] <el3ment> advanced option hmm
[03:00] <el3ment> not see any kind of option link on the page :)
[03:01] <hatake_kakashi> its on there, look for it or something similar
[03:02] <el3ment> im stupid or this site is one big mess :D
[03:02] <hatake_kakashi> see alternative download options
[03:03] <el3ment> ohh im find it :)
[03:03] <el3ment> ty :D
[03:03] <bearodactyl> hmmm, xinput list shows it as a diamondback
[03:03] <bearodactyl> with 15 buttons, loll
[03:04] <hatake_kakashi> gotta love autoprobe
[03:05] <bearodactyl> haha, it also thinks my usb headset is a keyboard...wtf
[03:07] <el3ment> can i run kde 4.0 on this ubuntu ? :)
[03:07] <el3ment> sry for my noobish questions :)
[03:07] <hatake_kakashi> its called kubuntu
[03:07] <bearodactyl> kubuntu
[03:08] <bearodactyl> If you're into that sort of thing.  Best thing I ever did with KDE was "apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop && apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[03:08] <el3ment> this is part from original 64bit.ubuntu.iso or i must download kubuntu verion specificaly ?
[03:08] <bearodactyl> If there's not a version for download, just get whatever is there and you can change it later
[03:08] <el3ment> whats the diferents ?
[03:08] <hatake_kakashi> different frontend
[03:08] <bearodactyl> different desktop environments
[03:09] <bearodactyl> Just preference mostly.  XFCE (xubuntu) is very lightweight, Gnome and KDE are a little more full featured.
[03:09] <bearodactyl> A lot of people don't like KDE4 though.
[03:10] <bearodactyl> 3 was usable.  4 makes me want to throw up on my computer
[03:10] <el3ment> why cuz everything is shiny in kde 4 ?
[03:10] <hatake_kakashi> there's lxde which to me looks similar to kde3 but someone else said more like kde2
[03:10] <el3ment> and cartoon ? :)
[03:10] <hatake_kakashi> different people different tastes
[03:10] <el3ment> yea thats true
[03:13] <el3ment> i will install ubuntu with windows installer and i see only ubuntu Graphic environments
[03:13] <el3ment> can i change this late with kde4 ?
[03:14] <hatake_kakashi> its called kubuntu-desktop, you have to download and install it, similar to what bearodactyl said
[03:14] <el3ment> ahh
[03:15] <el3ment> this is after im install ubuntu with defoult desktop
[03:15] <hatake_kakashi> or you could have simply downloaded kubuntu
[03:16] <el3ment> hmm
[03:16] <hatake_kakashi> and seriously why aren't you asking these questions in #kubuntu? why here when its not really related to xfce?
[03:18] <el3ment> sry im new ind this area and asking questions everywhere :)
[03:19] <bearodactyl> if you have default, you can do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:19] <bearodactyl> best bet is to just download the one you want to begin with
[03:19] <bearodactyl> so long as it is available
[03:19] <el3ment> ok ty :)
[03:20] <el3ment> i will try first kubuntu :) then others :)
[03:21] <bearodactyl> ok.  Personally I use the minimal iso.  That way you can pick and choose what you want while installing
[03:21] <bearodactyl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:22] <bearodactyl> plus it saves time on updating everything after the install is finished
[03:22] <bearodactyl> and your disc is always up to date
[03:25] <el3ment> what i must choose for instalation size there have option between 5 and 20 GB
[03:28] <bearodactyl> are you using the windows installer?
[03:29] <hatake_kakashi> he left
[03:30] <bearodactyl> oh yeah lol.  I didn't look that closely
[04:09] <robertzaccour> thinkin about the xfce switch. any pros or cons compared to gnome?
[04:26] <robertzaccour> anyone here?
[06:10] <Balsaq> good morning...Lords of the Qode.
[06:20] <moetunes> is there an preferred method of adding to the application menu?
[06:21] <Balsaq> please elaborate moetunes
[06:22] <moetunes> I just installed xvnc4viewer and didn't end up with a menu entry for it in network or anywhere - I want one
[06:22] <moetunes> so I figured I would add it
[07:56] <Balsaq> -FoogatzPipe- if you are good we may be able to use you...but i have a funny feeling you are a numbskull :(
[08:03] <_Techie_> umm, bal wrong channel
[08:03] <moetunes> I had to check my ignore page...
[08:35] <moetunes> how do I get a static ip address on my lan - there's no option in network manager
[08:36] <hatake_kakashi> under IPv4 settings
[08:37] <hatake_kakashi> and no you can't get one, you must set one, to get one you need to configure your router to lease you a static type IP
[08:38] <moetunes> I've always set one in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:38] <moetunes> can I remove network manager since it is so limited
[08:38] <hatake_kakashi> yeah you could still probably do it the old fashioned way, just remove network manager
[08:39] <hatake_kakashi> probably could or better yet make it not manage any device
[08:39] <moetunes> I'll try that thnx
[08:49] <moetunes> woot! - static ip for me :)
[10:45] <_Techie_> moetunes, good to see another user sticking to the good ol' config files
[12:22] <_Techie_> how can i pull cpu information from command line, information such as FSB clock speed, L2 cache size
[12:23] <Sysi> cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[12:24] <_Techie_> works a charm
[12:24] <_Techie_> once again you save my hide
[12:25] <_Techie_> however not my sanity
[12:27] <_Techie_> does anyone have any spare CPU's about?
[12:27] <_Techie_> most likely someone whose upgraded from a p4 to a dual core of the same socket type
[13:25] <IlmariL> win 8
[13:25] <IlmariL> sorry :)
[13:27] <Sysi> luckily not win 7 :P
[13:39] <moetunes> I just installed 9.10 alongside a dapper server based install - vlc in 9.10 uses 40% cpu to play an avi and vlc on dapper uses 0-1% to play the same file?
[14:31] <xubuntu278> I have just tried installing xubuntu 10.4 beta 1. But on rebooting grub couldn't find the primary hard disk. Anything I could do?
[14:31] <charlie-tca> !grub
[14:31] <charlie-tca> !grub2
[15:01] <Arpad2> hello
[15:01] <charlie-tca> !hi
[15:02] <Arpad2> ok, thx!
[15:02] <Arpad2> can I add a program icon to my xubuntu desktop, for instance the icon of the opera browser?
[15:03] <charlie-tca> sure, but if you want to run opera from the desktop, you need to add a launcher
[15:03] <Arpad2> thx, and how can I get the launcher?
[15:03] <charlie-tca> just right click the desktop, left click create launcher
[15:04] <Arpad2> ok , I will try this, Thx!:)
[15:04] <Sysi> btw. it's fun that xfce is "wiser" adding launchers to desktop than panel
[15:05]  * charlie-tca thinks adding to the panel was an after the facts thing
[15:06] <Arpad2> I did it ! it works ! thank you charlie-tca!
[15:06] <Sysi> charlie-tca: but on desktop you get suggestions while starting to type
[15:06] <charlie-tca> Arpad2: You are welcome
[15:07] <Arpad2> next question. How can I play mp3 files without converting them to ogg files?
[15:07] <charlie-tca> Sysi: you do? I have not used that in a very long time
[15:07] <charlie-tca> Arpad2: should be able to use exaile
[15:07] <Arpad2> but it doesnt like mp3
[15:08] <Sysi> install xubuntu-restricted-extras (which also contais other useful stuff)
[15:08] <Arpad2> ok, where can I fins these xtras?
[15:08] <Arpad2> find
[15:09] <Arpad2> sorry, Im barely I week old linus user
[15:09] <Sysi> synaptic
[15:09] <Arpad2> ok
[15:09] <Arpad2> i look into it
[15:09] <Sysi> in menu under system
[15:09] <Arpad2> thx
[15:11] <moetunes> g++ doesn't support shared libraries - what am I missing pls?
[15:55] <Arpad2> can I copy files from Drive C on which is XP, to drive E on which is xubuntu, the file manager doest see the drive c nor d
[15:55] <Arpad2> ?
[15:56] <charlie-tca> yes, you should be able to, if you can see the files already on E
[15:56] <moetunes> Arpad2: those drives prob aren't mounted in xubuntu
[15:57] <Arpad2> which means what exactly? i installed the linux on on drive e
[15:57] <Arpad2> drives c and d are still left for microsoft
[15:58] <Sysi> did you use wubi?
[15:58] <moetunes> the file manager doesn't see the drive c nor d - is that what you meant?
[15:58] <Arpad2> yes
[15:59] <Arpad2> but i didnt use wubi
[15:59] <Arpad2> should I try?
[15:59] <moetunes> no you did a better thing installing to a partition
[16:00] <moetunes> are the windows partitions ntfs?
[16:00] <Arpad2> interesting that neither the xp sees now the drive e
[16:01] <moetunes> windows never sees the linux partitions
[16:01] <Arpad2> hello moetunes
[16:01] <Arpad2> ok
[16:01] <moetunes> hi there Arpad2
[16:01] <Arpad2> what is ntfs?
[16:01] <moetunes> a choice of file system for windows - it's the default
[16:02] <moetunes> most linux is on ext3 filesystem
[16:03] <Arpad2> sorry I dont know the answer, which kind of filesystem the OS is using
[16:03] <moetunes> more than likely it is ntfs - I have never used ntfs so maybe someone with windows experience will speak up...
[16:05] <Arpad2> interestingly if i search for files than the two windows drives appear
[16:06] <moetunes> be interesting to know if your /etc/fstab file shows those drives
[16:06] <charlie-tca> I would guess xp and vista will be ntfs
[16:06] <Arpad2> ok
[16:07] <charlie-tca> That is what they default to
[16:08] <Arpad2> no fstab folder
[16:08] <moetunes> isn't ntfs-3g needed then?
[16:08] <moetunes> fstab is a file in /etc
[16:08] <Arpad2> ok
[16:08] <moetunes> further down
[16:09] <Arpad2> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[16:09] <Arpad2> #
[16:09] <Arpad2> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[16:09] <Arpad2> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
[16:09] <Arpad2> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[16:09] <Arpad2> #
[16:09] <Arpad2> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[16:09] <Arpad2> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[16:09] <Arpad2> # / was on /dev/sdb1 during installation
[16:09] <Arpad2> UUID=5dc16851-0f57-4645-88e1-94a3d3d20714 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[16:09] <Arpad2> # swap was on /dev/sdb5 during installation
[16:09] <Arpad2> UUID=10b52446-4652-4366-86de-251582d21d5d none            swap    sw              0       0
[16:09] <Arpad2> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[16:09] <Arpad2> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[16:09] <Arpad2> this is it :)
[16:10] <charlie-tca> !pastebin
[16:10] <moetunes> hehe - doesn't seem like they are
[16:10] <moetunes> isn't ntfs-3g needed then? - charlie-tca
[16:10] <charlie-tca> It is needed in the mount command, yes
[16:11] <charlie-tca> something like 'sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/??? /media/???
[16:12] <moetunes> be good to put it in fstab for Arpad2
[16:12] <charlie-tca> or in fstab "/dev/sd? /media/window-c ntfs-3g,user,auto     0     0
[16:12] <moetunes> thnx :)
[16:12] <charlie-tca> without the quotes
[16:13] <charlie-tca> You also have to create the directories to mount in /media
[16:13] <Arpad2> i should type sth in the terminal?
[16:13] <charlie-tca> Windows should be on sda1
[16:13] <Arpad2> correct
[16:14] <charlie-tca> in terminal, type    sudo mkdir /media/windows-c
[16:14] <Arpad2> ok
[16:14] <charlie-tca> Then type       sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/windows-c
[16:15] <charlie-tca> then try to look at the drive in thunar
[16:15] <charlie-tca> now that I think of it, you could use gigolo to see the windows drives, too
[16:16] <charlie-tca> Applications -> system -> shared drives  or  Gigolo ?
[16:16] <Arpad2> ok
[16:16] <Arpad2> i did the two sudo commands
[16:17] <charlie-tca> any errors?
[16:17] <Misio> Hello to everyone and happy easter
[16:17] <Arpad2> arpad@arpad-desktop:~/Desktop$  sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/windows-cThe disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[16:17] <Arpad2> The file system wasn't safely closed on Windows. Fixing.
[16:17] <Arpad2> arpad@arpad-desktop:~/Desktop$
[16:17] <charlie-tca> !hi | Misio
[16:18] <charlie-tca> okay
[16:18] <Misio> I don't know if this is the right place but I wish to understand why 3D acceleration doesn't seems to work for me
[16:18] <charlie-tca> Arpad2: you should be able to see the windows files in the file manager now
[16:18] <Misio> Could anyone help me?
[16:18] <charlie-tca> Misio: what kind of video card?
[16:19] <charlie-tca> Did you install the hardware drivers?
[16:19] <Misio> I've a ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x
[16:19] <Misio> It should use the Mesa drivers, already installed
[16:19] <charlie-tca> Hardware drivers installed? applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers
[16:20] <Misio> none listed
[16:20] <Misio> I don't understand that application... there is nothing listed...
[16:20] <charlie-tca> That is why you don't have 3d
[16:21] <charlie-tca> It doesn't see any ati specific hardware drivers for that card. It may be too old now
[16:21] <Misio> :s
[16:21] <moetunes> I thought the 2x meant agp at 2x - too slow for dri
[16:21] <charlie-tca> ati mobility is quite an old card
[16:21] <Misio> hmmm
[16:21] <charlie-tca> no, ati rage
[16:22] <Misio> glxinfo reports direct rendering enabled however
[16:22] <charlie-tca> hardware or software?
[16:22] <charlie-tca> doesn't matter
[16:22] <charlie-tca> you can have software direct rendering enabled without having 3d support
[16:22] <Arpad2> charlie-tca: I have shared folder only, not shared drives, and it says sharing services are not installed
[16:22] <Misio> so... there is nothing to do?
[16:23] <charlie-tca> Arpad2: doesn't it ask if you want to install them?
[16:23] <Arpad2> i does
[16:23] <charlie-tca> Misio: I don't have answers for ati, all my cards are nvidia
[16:23] <charlie-tca> !ati | Misio
[16:23] <Arpad2> it does
[16:23] <Misio> oh... thank you ubottu
[16:24] <charlie-tca> Arpad2: install samba
[16:24] <charlie-tca> ubottu is a robot
[16:24] <charlie-tca> ubottu, tell Misio about yourself
[16:24] <Arpad2> ok
[16:25] <Misio> oh... :D
[16:25] <charlie-tca> :-)
[16:29] <Arpad2> charlie-tca: samba has been installed
[16:30] <charlie-tca> okay. I think you can use the drive now, but if you want it permanent, you should add the mount to /etc/fstab
[16:31] <charlie-tca> I don't really use windows at all. Have not had a copy since windows 3.1
[16:31] <Arpad2> ok
[16:31] <Arpad2> :)
[16:31] <Arpad2> I have some password in keepass on windows
[16:31] <charlie-tca> been a year or two, I guess
[16:32] <Arpad2> is it possible to retrieve these from linux?
[16:32] <charlie-tca> I believe keepassx is compatible in ubuntu
[16:32] <charlie-tca> !keepassx
[16:32] <charlie-tca> broke it
[16:32] <charlie-tca> !info keepassx
[16:33] <charlie-tca> There is some documentation in /usr/share/doc/keepassx after you install it
[16:33] <Arpad2> ok, thank you!
[16:33] <charlie-tca> You should be able to use the same password file in both Xubuntu and Windows
[16:35] <Arpad2> ok
[16:44] <Arpad2> the exaile now plas the mp3s:), but file manager doest see the win
[16:45] <Misio> It seems that I'm unlucky
[16:46] <Misio> I already should have the best driver installed
[16:52] <charlie-tca> !gigolo | Arpad2
[16:52] <charlie-tca> !samba | Arpad2
[16:54] <Arpad2> ok
[16:54] <Arpad2> thank you charlie-tca
[16:55] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[16:56] <Arpad2> where can I find gigolo?
[16:57] <Arpad2>  :(
[16:57] <charlie-tca> applications -> System -> Gigolo  or  Applications -> System -> Shared ...
[16:59] <schlaftier> Applications -> System -> Remote Filesystems
[17:00] <charlie-tca> that too
[17:01] <Arpad2> ok
[17:06] <Arpad2> in remote is the gigolo:)
[17:07] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:07] <Arpad2> however it sees c only
[17:07] <charlie-tca> You never mounted d:
[17:07] <Arpad2> which means?
[17:08] <Arpad2> im still dummy... :(
[17:08] <charlie-tca> you created a directory in /media called windows-c, and then mounted it with sudo mount ...
[17:08] <charlie-tca> What drive is d: ? sda?
[17:08] <charlie-tca> maybe that is sda2
[17:08] <Misio> just another question... is it possible to configure HAL to force Xorg to load a specific driver?
[17:09] <Misio> I see that Xorg uses MATCH64
[17:09] <Misio> but it should use Rage128
[17:09] <charlie-tca> in terminal, type    sudo mkdir /media/windows-d
[17:09] <Arpad2> ok
[17:09] <Arpad2> :)
[17:09] <Arpad2> this i understand:)
[17:09] <charlie-tca> Then type       sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/windows-d
[17:10] <Arpad2> ok
[17:10] <Misio> I don't think that it will help but it's just to try
[17:10] <charlie-tca> Misio: I think it can be done using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:10] <charlie-tca> !xorg.conf
[17:11] <charlie-tca> Misio: or maybe google to find an example
[17:11] <Misio> Yes, I know but I've no xorg.conf because I use HAL
[17:11] <charlie-tca> You can create one
[17:11] <Misio> Yes charlie-tca... I was just wandering if it is possibile through HAL
[17:12] <charlie-tca> Yes, you can create it and it will work
[17:12] <Arpad2> ....
[17:13] <Arpad2> arpad@arpad-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/windows-d
[17:13] <Arpad2> NTFS signature is missing.
[17:13] <Arpad2> Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Invalid argument
[17:13] <Arpad2> The device '/dev/sda2' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[17:13] <Arpad2> Maybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a
[17:13] <Arpad2> partition (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1)? Or the other way around?
[17:13] <Arpad2> arpad@arpad-desktop:~/Desktop$
[17:14] <charlie-tca> okay, that is not the right number
[17:14] <Arpad2> :)
[17:14] <charlie-tca> how many hard drives do you have?
[17:14] <Arpad2> i thought so
[17:14] <Misio> well.. thank you charlie, happy easter to all... see you
[17:14] <Arpad2> 2
[17:14] <Arpad2> 3
[17:14] <Arpad2> rhree
[17:14] <Arpad2> three
[17:15] <Arpad2> sprry
[17:15] <Arpad2> sorry
[17:15] <charlie-tca> ah-ha
[17:15] <charlie-tca> and Xubuntu is on ?
[17:15] <Arpad2> two partitions( c,d) on one drive
[17:15] <Arpad2> on the second drive
[17:15] <Arpad2> drive E
[17:16] <Arpad2> that has ubuntu
[17:16] <charlie-tca> What is the third drive?
[17:16] <charlie-tca> two drives
[17:16] <Arpad2> I think im confusing the terms
[17:16] <Arpad2> i have two psisical HDD s
[17:17] <Arpad2> and one hdd has two partitions  ie c and d
[17:17] <Arpad2> and the other hdd has xubuntu
[17:18] <charlie-tca> okay
[17:19] <charlie-tca> go to /dev/disk/by-id and look at them
[17:19] <Arpad2> ok
[17:19] <charlie-tca> if you right click, left click properties, you can see the sd?? numbers
[17:19] <charlie-tca> what is there besides sda1 and sdb1  ?
[17:19] <Arpad2> just a sec
[17:22] <Arpad2> there is no mention of sda at all
[17:23] <charlie-tca> look at each one, in properties will be 'Link Target: ../../sd?
[17:24] <charlie-tca> every drive and partition should be listed
[17:25] <Arpad2> for first folder is sdb
[17:25] <Arpad2> but there are 16 folders
[17:25] <Arpad2> in by-id
[17:26] <charlie-tca> got to look at each one
[17:26] <Arpad2> in 2nd sdb1
[17:28] <charlie-tca> okay
[17:28] <Arpad2> shell i look into all 16?
[17:28] <charlie-tca> there will be sda, sda1, sdb, sdb1, sdb2
[17:28] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:28] <charlie-tca> each one is different
[17:29] <Arpad2> ok
[17:29] <Arpad2> what are these files?
[17:29] <Arpad2> (too comlicated?)
[17:29] <charlie-tca> you hard drives are sda and sdb
[17:29] <Arpad2> yea
[17:29] <charlie-tca> your partitions are the sdb1, sda1, etc
[17:29] <Arpad2> ok
[17:30] <charlie-tca> in linux, you will have a designator for each hard drive and for each partition and for each usb drive and each cd/dvd drive
[17:30] <Arpad2> ok
[17:31] <Arpad2> I have cd in my odd at the moment:)
[17:31] <charlie-tca> heh
[17:31] <charlie-tca> sda1 will be the first partition of the first hard drive
[17:31] <charlie-tca> sdb1 is the first partition of the second hard drive
[17:32] <charlie-tca> maybe you have sda1, sda2, sda3
[17:32] <charlie-tca> for windows?
[17:32] <charlie-tca> windows creates partitions you don't always know about
[17:32] <Arpad2> ok
[17:33] <charlie-tca> so, in the terminal, an up arrow will show the last commands, go up and change the sda2 to sda3
[17:33] <Arpad2> ok
[17:36] <Arpad2> is seems i dont have sda3
[17:37] <charlie-tca> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/windows-d
[17:38] <charlie-tca> it isn't ntfs, maybe
[17:39] <Arpad2>  you must specify the filesystem type
[17:39] <charlie-tca> I don't know  the filesystem type. I am at a loss now
[17:39] <Arpad2> ok
[17:39] <Arpad2> im sorry
[17:40] <Arpad2> i didnt want to confuse you
[17:40] <charlie-tca> anyone else know how to mount the windows drives?
[17:40] <charlie-tca> doesn't confuse me, I just don't have the knowledge
[17:41] <Sysi> i think it should work without specifing
[17:41] <charlie-tca> I haven't used windows since 2000
[17:41] <Sysi> easiest is to use nautilus :S
[19:55] <craigbass1976> I'm running xub alongside an xp box and using an usb kvm switch.  XP can't seem to figure out how to work correctly with this setup by default, but I've managed to get it so that both computers consistently use the same resolution.  Windows is kicked over to the left about a half an inch in relation to xubuntu though.  Is there a way to adjust this in xfce?
[19:55] <craigbass1976> I worry that trying to fix it in windows will break stuff... typical windows scenario
[19:56] <charlie-tca> Don't know any way in Xubuntu
[19:57] <charlie-tca> My monitors have a one-button alignment; push the button and the screen redraws to fit
[19:58] <craigbass1976> If I hit the auto button (on the monitor) everything is fine in linux.  Hit it when I'm lokoing at windows though, and everything kicks over about six inches
[19:58] <charlie-tca> weird. Gotta be something windows does wrong
[19:58] <craigbass1976> Are you kidding me?  Windows is perfect in every way.
[19:59] <craigbass1976> ;)
[19:59] <charlie-tca> Isn't there a windows channel? like ##windows?
[20:00] <Sysi> !windows
[20:01] <charlie-tca> That's the one. Thanks, Sysi
[20:02] <Sysi> i haven't tried that one but commonly it's very hard to get good help with windows.
[20:02] <charlie-tca> heh
[20:02] <charlie-tca> yup
[20:03] <craigbass1976> Lost cause.  If I could get a kitchen design program for linux, I'd not be needing this kvm switch in the first place
[20:04] <charlie-tca> like this? http://www.isoftwarereviews.com/interior-design-software-free-and-paid-solution/
[20:06] <charlie-tca> or maybe this: http://groups.google.fr/group/z1IiwS/web/free-kitchen-design-software
[20:07] <craigbass1976> No, like those on steroids.  It needs to have the different manufacturers spec books and prices.  I ofund one that's written in java, and so might work, but I haven't tried it out yet.
[20:35] <zoredache> on some systems if you press alt-f2 a dialog box will come up and you can enter a command to be ran?  What is path to the program that displays that box?  Is that part of the windows manager, or is it a seperate program?
[20:38] <craigbass1976> zoredache,  xfrun4 I think
[20:38] <craigbass1976> /usr/bin/xfrun4
[20:39] <charlie-tca> which is part of xfce4-utils
[20:40] <zoredache> craigbass1976, excelent, thanks.  I was trying to make a launcher to it
[20:40] <charlie-tca> zoredache: for xfce it is a separate module
[20:41] <craigbass1976> zoredache, why not just make a keyboard shortcut for a terminal?
[20:41] <zoredache> craigbass1976: because I am doing something very weird and keyboard shortcuts doesn't work with my setup
[20:41] <craigbass1976> Ctrl+k on my box opens up xfce4-terminal
[20:41] <Sysi> in xubuntu alt+f2 works by default
[20:42] <craigbass1976> zoredache, ok, well just stop being so weird.  ;)
[20:42] <knome> hello people.
[20:42] <Sysi> hello knome
[20:42] <zoredache> I would love to, but the requiments of my job make it necessary
[21:40] <kewkies> Hey everyone
[21:40] <Sysi> o hai
[21:40] <kewkies> heh
[22:29] <ramier> hi
[22:29] <ramier> im on xubuntu, and recently, i don't know how, but two volume controls appear in the panel, and my sound is having issues
[22:30] <ramier> two speaker like things, that look different, a new one just appeared recently