| bencrisford | highvoltage: todays the day :) | 11:00 |
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| highvoltage | bencrisford: cool! I'm just catching up on a few things but I'll be around the whole day and give a bunch of bugs attention as well! | 12:36 |
| highvoltage | (ps: I'm awake during more or less EDT timezome so day is more or less starting for me now :p) | 12:37 |
| bencrisford | highvoltage: ok awesome :), #ubuntu-bugs is looking a bit dead at the moment, but hopefully a little later there'll be plenty of people around helping us squash some bugs :) | 12:40 |
| bencrisford | and EDT? :P I thought you lived in south africa? | 12:40 |
| bencrisford | i'm gonna make some lunch, back soon | 12:42 |
| highvoltage | bencrisford: I do, but I work for a canadian company | 12:43 |
| bencrisford | highvoltage: ah | 12:59 |
| mgariepy | good morning everyone | 13:41 |
| highvoltage | good morning mgariepy | 13:44 |
| bencrisford | mgariepy: good morning, and happy bug day! :) | 13:45 |
| mgariepy | highvoltage, will you be over here by the summer ? | 13:45 |
| highvoltage | mgariepy: sheesh. who knows. | 13:45 |
| highvoltage | mgariepy: my visa can come any day... but it's been like that for the past 3 weeks, I don't know anymore | 13:46 |
| mgariepy | ok ;) | 13:46 |
| highvoltage | mgariepy: I check my postbox every day, as soon as I have it I'll be there in less than two weeks | 13:46 |
| mgariepy | ok | 13:47 |
| mgariepy | so shall we schedule a beer somewhere for 2012 ? | 13:47 |
| mgariepy | ;) | 13:47 |
| highvoltage | mgariepy: to make things worse, I can't even apply for a visa for the UDS because the canadian embassy has my passport | 13:47 |
| highvoltage | mgariepy: hehe, yes, before the world ends :) | 13:47 |
| mgariepy | yeah the day before then haha | 13:48 |
| bencrisford | is there anything more depressing than slow downloads... | 14:10 |
| mhall119 | good morning | 14:18 |
| mhall119 | highvoltage: were you guys on holiday yesterday? | 14:18 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: yep, isn't it a holiday in the US too? | 14:26 |
| mhall119 | no | 14:26 |
| mhall119 | even Good Friday isn't a holiday for most people | 14:27 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: ok, wow. I always thought that it's a public holiday in most of the world | 14:27 |
| mhall119 | in most of the world | 14:27 |
| mhall119 | we're backward when it comes to these things | 14:27 |
| highvoltage | well, most countries where there's lots of christian people, at least :) | 14:27 |
| mhall119 | If I'm lucky, I'll get a full week of vacation time this year | 14:28 |
| mhall119 | highvoltage: well now that you're back, can you look over my new qimo packages in revu? | 14:29 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: yep! | 14:31 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: did you talk to anybody about a freeze exception yet? | 14:32 |
| mhall119 | I made the bug reports according top the FFe request guidelines | 14:32 |
| mhall119 | sispoty was helping me with that | 14:33 |
| mhall119 | I was told they were on the FFe queue, but I needed to have developer review and approval of the packages first | 14:33 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: ok great | 14:35 |
| sbalneav | Morning all | 14:58 |
| mhall119 | morning sbalneav | 15:02 |
| JackLD | morning, I'm just lurking while I try and get some work done. | 15:02 |
| bencrisford | JackLD: hi :) | 15:13 |
| bencrisford | hello sbalneav :) | 15:13 |
| sbalneav | Morning bencrisford | 15:13 |
| sbalneav | I see highvoltage approved you! | 15:13 |
| bencrisford | sbalneav: for..? | 15:13 |
| sbalneav | I was off on Holidays last week, was going to do it, then saw that it had already been done. | 15:13 |
| sbalneav | bugsquad, I beleive | 15:13 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: probably website team? | 15:14 |
| sbalneav | So, good piece of news, due to some hard work by DtkrKranz and myself, Sabayon's back in Debian Unstable! | 15:15 |
| sbalneav | bencrisford: Didn't you apply for bugsquad? | 15:15 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: cool :) | 15:15 |
| sbalneav | I may be confused. | 15:15 |
| sbalneav | First day back after 10 off, and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet :) | 15:16 |
| bencrisford | sbalneav: lp says ive been a member since november | 15:16 |
| bencrisford | :S | 15:16 |
| sbalneav | lol | 15:16 |
| sbalneav | never mind me then. Carry on Seargent Major! | 15:16 |
| bencrisford | and dont talk about coffee! im trying to stop drinking it :( | 15:16 |
| sbalneav | Whatever for?! | 15:17 |
| mhall119 | blasphemy | 15:17 |
| bencrisford | ive been drinking too much coffee.. | 15:17 |
| bencrisford | now i get headaches if i go a day without it | 15:18 |
| bencrisford | so i think its time to cut down on my caffeine in-take | 15:18 |
| bencrisford | im not doing very well though | 15:18 |
| bencrisford | im ready to give up giving up already | 15:18 |
| sbalneav | Well. moderation in all things. | 15:19 |
| bencrisford | yeah | 15:19 |
| highvoltage | bencrisford: that's been happening to me too recently, it took me a while to figure out that it was the headaches was caused by withdrawel | 15:19 |
| sbalneav | Do like I do. No more than 3 cups a day, all before 2 PM :) | 15:19 |
| bencrisford | highvoltage: yeah, yesterday evening i had a splitting headache, and then i realised i hadnt had any coffee that day | 15:20 |
| bencrisford | and the last few days ive been really craving chocolate, which has caffeine in right? | 15:20 |
| bencrisford | i wasnt hungry at all, just really wanted some choco :P | 15:20 |
| * bencrisford wonders what makes old monitors so heavy | 15:21 | |
| highvoltage | bencrisford: transformers! | 15:32 |
| bencrisford | highvoltage: :/ | 15:34 |
| highvoltage | (well and big tubes :) ) | 15:34 |
| bencrisford | i have never actually looked inside a monitor | 15:34 |
| bencrisford | i was planning on turning one into a fish tank once | 15:34 |
| highvoltage | if you do, just be careful, some parts keep a high charge even when it's unplugged and turned off | 15:35 |
| bencrisford | but didnt know how id seal up the vents | 15:35 |
| bencrisford | maybe i wont.. | 15:35 |
| bencrisford | :P | 15:35 |
| * bencrisford is getting angry with his dell optiplex gx110 | 15:35 | |
| bencrisford | i dont want to boot from hdd, cd OR diskette | 15:36 |
| highvoltage | I think what people do is basically build a fish tank that can fit inside the monitor, instead of turning the monitor itself into a fish tank | 15:36 |
| bencrisford | i want to boot from usb | 15:36 |
| bencrisford | highvoltage: oh | 15:36 |
| bencrisford | i never got around to looking in to it | 15:36 |
| bencrisford | i just thought it would be cool :P | 15:36 |
| bencrisford | :@ how am i meant to boot from usb when apparently my box hasnt even heard of it | 15:38 |
| bencrisford | i want to install edubuntu on it so i have a low spec testing platform | 15:39 |
| bencrisford | but the cd drives jammed and i cba to fix it | 15:39 |
| alkisg | bencrisford: why don't you want to boot from a diskette, and install edubuntu over the network? | 15:42 |
| alkisg | (if your motherboard doesn't support usb booting, that is...) | 15:42 |
| bencrisford | alkisg: i didnt know that was possible | 15:42 |
| bencrisford | diskettes can fit an iso on? :S | 15:42 |
| alkisg | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot#line-75 | 15:43 |
| sbalneav | No, but you can fit etherboot on 'em. | 15:43 |
| alkisg | And you'll need the diskette from rom-o-matic to netboot | 15:43 |
| bencrisford | i cant get internet on my dell box | 15:43 |
| sbalneav | Or, just pop in a pci network card that does support pxe. | 15:43 |
| bencrisford | well i could ethernet | 15:43 |
| bencrisford | but im miles away from the router | 15:43 |
| alkisg | Hey sbalneav, we missed you :) | 15:43 |
| bencrisford | and im not that bothered about installing edu | 15:43 |
| sbalneav | Back from hollydays :) | 15:43 |
| alkisg | True holidays, with no net... :D | 15:44 |
| sbalneav | yes | 15:46 |
| sbalneav | Sometimes, I just need a break :) | 15:46 |
| bencrisford | whoa floppys are slow | 15:49 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: I'll do a review on those packages in about 2 hours | 16:30 |
| mhall119 | thanks | 16:46 |
| sbalneav | So, I've got a 32 bit Ubuntu install here. How do I turn it into a 64 bit install? Just install a different kernel? | 18:42 |
| bencrisford | sbalneav: ive never really thought about that... | 18:47 |
| bencrisford | is there an ubuntu amd64 channel? | 18:47 |
| sbalneav | ubuntu-server'd probably be the people to ask. | 18:47 |
| sbalneav | I'd really rather not re-install. | 18:48 |
| mgariepy | sbalneav, if you find out i would like to know :) | 18:48 |
| bencrisford | id be interested as well, i dont need to know, but it could come in useful at some point | 18:50 |
| highvoltage | bencrisford: syncing to the latest edbuntu build so that I can check latest issue statusses, about 82% done syncing | 18:57 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: there's no real supported way to do it, you could replace the kernel and then re-install the packages, but some packages break on re-installation and it's probably best to just re-install | 18:58 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, kvm's busted on 32 bit karmic. | 18:59 |
| mhall119 | I think reinstalling is the easiest way to get from 32 to 64 | 18:59 |
| sbalneav | So far, the only way proffered by ubuntu is to move to 64 bit | 19:00 |
| bencrisford | highvoltage: :) | 19:05 |
| bencrisford | i have to go out for two hours.. brass band rehearsal :P | 19:05 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | sbalneav: ur migrating ur users on the upgrade? | 19:47 |
| sbalneav | Ahmuck-Sr: This is just my own personal box. | 20:00 |
| sbalneav | I'm looking at trying out davical: www.davical.org | 20:00 |
| sbalneav | I have 3 choices: | 20:01 |
| sbalneav | 1) repackage the latest source release ---> time consuming | 20:01 |
| sbalneav | 2) Just "install the source, luke!" ---> Easy, but not-easily-upgradable | 20:02 |
| alkisg | (08:42:41 μμ) sbalneav: So, I've got a 32 bit Ubuntu install here. How do I turn it into a 64 bit install? Just install a different kernel? ==> afaik the only way is to reinstall :) | 20:02 |
| sbalneav | 3) Run a Debian Lenny box under KVM and use his upstream released .debs ---> ran into KVM issue. | 20:02 |
| sbalneav | So, it's looking like 2) at the moment ;) | 20:03 |
| ogra | sbalneav, 4) ask upstream to also provide i386 debs :) | 20:05 |
| sbalneav | Well, they're _all | 20:05 |
| sbalneav | I'm just going to try installing the debian lenny debs, for a laugh | 20:05 |
| sbalneav | it's all in php | 20:06 |
| ogra | if they are _all you can install them on i386 anyway | 20:06 |
| sbalneav | Preparing to replace libawl-php 0.37 (using libawl-php_0.42-0_all.deb) ... | 20:07 |
| sbalneav | Unpacking replacement libawl-php ... | 20:07 |
| sbalneav | Preparing to replace davical 0.9.7-0 (using davical_0.9.8.4-0_all.deb) ... | 20:07 |
| sbalneav | Unpacking replacement davical ... | 20:07 |
| sbalneav | Setting up libawl-php (0.42-0) ... | 20:07 |
| sbalneav | Setting up davical (0.9.8.4-0) ... | 20:07 |
| sbalneav | huh | 20:07 |
| sbalneav | Well, so far so good :) | 20:07 |
| sbalneav | Huh! Well, after I updated the database schema, away it goes. | 20:09 |
| sbalneav | So: | 20:09 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | i looked at ical, and calandering solutions. there are few that are actually compliant. | 20:09 |
| sbalneav | Davical seems to be the only one that's even trying. | 20:10 |
| sbalneav | works with iPhone's right out of the box | 20:10 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | one was bedework, the other was sojo(?) | 20:10 |
| ogra | if y'all woulödnt be so evophobic you could just use evo :) | 20:10 |
| sbalneav | I will | 20:10 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | compliant via webcal, devcal, and groupcal | 20:10 |
| sbalneav | We're looking at moving to evo | 20:10 |
| ogra | sweet | 20:10 |
| sbalneav | with davical on the backend. | 20:10 |
| ogra | ah | 20:10 |
| vmlintu | The calendaring stuff is a big mess.. | 20:10 |
| sbalneav | I absolutely, positively MUST have group/shared calendaring. | 20:11 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | sorry, sogo | 20:11 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | http://www.scalableogo.org/english.html | 20:11 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | i'd consider one that is standards compliant imho | 20:11 |
| vmlintu | I went through everything I could possibly find two years ago and it seemed like every solution supported half of the clients.. | 20:12 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | http://www.groupdav.org/implementations.html | 20:12 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | http://caldav.calconnect.org/implementations/servers.html | 20:14 |
| vmlintu | What I learnt was that if you need to sync with mobiles, you have to check those first.. | 20:14 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | looks like davical is caldav compliant | 20:14 |
| sbalneav | What I'd love to find, even if I had to pay, is a blackberry caldav client. | 20:14 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | The Funambol SOGo Connector allows any SyncML enabled devices to fully synchronize contacts, events and tasks with SOGo. The connector is fast and reliable. It features : | 20:14 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | anywho, i settled upon sogo | 20:15 |
| sbalneav | Ahmuck-Sr: Know of any BB caldav clients? | 20:15 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | http://nexthaus.com/ | 20:15 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | http://nexthaus.com/products_b_blackBerry.html | 20:15 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | now you too can have your crackberry :) | 20:16 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | and sync it too | 20:16 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | anywho, it connects with sogo. i'm out for a bit, need to complete a magazine | 20:16 |
| sbalneav | thanks. | 20:16 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | anywho, bedework is more on the educational side vs the commercial side, but it's java | 20:17 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | and iirc, bedework was intergratable with moodle or some type of online classroom software | 20:18 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | bedework was specifically built for education, and is used in colleges | 20:18 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | https://www.forge.funambol.org/download/ - the open source edition(?) | 20:19 |
| vmlintu | Zimbra has also caldav, but you have to pay for the mobile stuff.. | 20:19 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | Funambol is the leading mobile open source project and leading provider of open source mobile ... The Funambol Sync Client for Mac OS X adds SyncML capabilities to the Apple OS, ... Funambol JavaME/BlackBerry Email Client (ALL VERSIONS) . | 20:20 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | one of them, i i dont' recall which wrote the file out in xml and a standard form, rather than some crazy dev's idea of what it should be :) | 20:21 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | fwiw, i dumped tbird & sbird in favor of evolution | 20:24 |
| sbalneav | Ideally, what I'd like is just some BB app that I can install directly on the BB and just point it at the caldav server, and voila! | 20:43 |
| sbalneav | Thanks for all the info. | 20:44 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | BB == bulliten board? | 20:45 |
| sbalneav | BlackBerry | 20:47 |
| vmlintu | sbalneav: are you looking something that is fully open source? | 20:48 |
| sbalneav | On the blackberry side? No, don't care about that. I'll gladly buy something. | 20:49 |
| vmlintu | I mean for the server | 20:49 |
| sbalneav | On the server side? Yes, since we need to interact with our case management application, so I need to be able to dig into the guts so I can have the application add calendar entries for court dates, etc. | 20:50 |
| vmlintu | Blackberries are not sold here, so I have no idea how they work.. | 20:50 |
| sbalneav | They're closed source, so I have no idea how they work either. I'm forced to carry one around, and I can tell you, they suck :) | 20:51 |
| sbalneav | However, if you're in business, you have to support the crackberries :) | 20:52 |
| vmlintu | I had to get syncing working with nokia's symbian phones and I doubt that anything can suck more.. | 20:52 |
| vmlintu | I went for zimbra as at the time it had the only working implementation for mail for exchange clients on symbian | 20:53 |
| vmlintu | It's not fully open source either, so it's probably not for you | 20:54 |
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| vmlintu | This calendar stuff reminds me of the fact that we'd need some kind of calendars also for schools.. | 21:23 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | well ... yes | 21:31 |
| * Ahmuck-Sr picks up the dead fish he's been beating for a while | 21:31 | |
| Ahmuck-Sr | sorry, i'l go back to lurking. i did not arrive here to be onery | 21:33 |
| bencrisford-E63 | Finally got Irc working on my mobile | 22:26 |
| bencrisford | bencrisford-E63: :) | 22:27 |
| Lns | Hi guys | 22:27 |
| Lns | how's bug day going? Sorry I'm coming in late here | 22:27 |
| Lns | guess not very active eh? | 22:37 |
| bencrisford | Lns: hasnt been as "epic" a bug day as i would have hoped :), but weve had a few bugs triaged successfully | 22:37 |
| bencrisford | pedro_ has been working very hard on the gimp bugs :) | 22:38 |
| Lns | cool :) Are we including Gimp with default install? | 22:38 |
| bencrisford | Lns: im not sure | 22:38 |
| bencrisford | but its been lited at the tinyurl/EduBugs since i can remember | 22:38 |
| bencrisford | listed* | 22:38 |
| bencrisford | hopefully we'll get some more participants before the end of the day | 22:39 |
| bencrisford | if nothing else i think weve made people realise where we are and how much we need help | 22:39 |
| bencrisford | the 300 open bugs says that quite nicely | 22:40 |
| Lns | That is a very good thing in and of itself | 22:40 |
| bencrisford | yep | 22:43 |
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