lfaraone | porthose: hey, would you mind reacking on bug 555948 (if it is needed). I mistakenly requested a sync from unstable when I meant to perform one from sid. (that was what I had tested) | 00:16 |
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ubottu | Launchpad bug 555948 in wireshark "Sync wireshark 1.2.7-1 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/555948 | 00:16 |
crimsun | lfaraone: err... | 00:17 |
crimsun | unstable <-> sid. Did you mean testing for one of them? | 00:18 |
lfaraone | crimsun: squeeze/testing, sorry. | 00:19 |
lfaraone | porthose: s/unstable/testing/g | 00:19 |
crimsun | lfaraone: doesn't need a re-Ack, but I updated the description | 00:21 |
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crimsun | bdrung: WRT #555891, please use linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r) from ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev | 00:47 |
bdrung | crimsun: ok, i will try that tomorrow | 01:30 |
Semitones | hello guys! I was trying to install planetpenguin racer, and I found something curious | 04:14 |
persia | What? | 04:14 |
Semitones | Does it seem strange that planetpenguin-racer-extras is included in lucid and karmic | 04:15 |
Semitones | but planetpenguin-racer is not? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=planetpenguin-racer | 04:15 |
Semitones | it seems like you'd need the game for the -extras to be useful | 04:15 |
persia | Indeed. | 04:15 |
Semitones | so... any guesses to why the game isn't there? | 04:16 |
persia | You want to install extremetuxracer | 04:16 |
Semitones | oh, I didn't realize it was a continuation of tux racer, but I did see it | 04:16 |
Semitones | thanks persia | 04:16 |
dholbach | good morning | 08:17 |
geser | good morning | 08:17 |
stefanlsd | morning! | 08:17 |
dholbach | hey geser, hey stefanlsd | 08:18 |
\sh | moins | 08:44 |
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jetienne | q. is there a way to know the dependancy of a .deb ? i got only the .deb fiel | 09:38 |
Rhonda | jetienne: dpkg --info foo.deb | 09:39 |
jetienne | Rhonda: thanks | 09:39 |
m4rtin | hi all; I've written a bugfix patch for bash-completion, as requested by a member the sponsor team, but am struggling to get a debdiff up. I've got the lucid source package and it uses quilt. There is also a diff file listed. Should I apply this before running any quilt commands? | 10:50 |
Rhonda | m4rtin: I'd do a "quilt push -a" before starting to patch, and "quilt new my-bash-completion-fix" (or some more suiting name) before you start "quilt edit"ing the files. | 10:54 |
m4rtin | Rhonda: thanks; so: 1. untar apt source; 2. quilt push -a; 3. quilt new; 4. apply lucid source diff; 5. do my edits? | 10:58 |
m4rtin | hmm, seems not | 10:59 |
m4rtin | the lucid patch places the series patches in the dir | 10:59 |
persia | m4rtin: When you get the .dsc file, use dpkg-source -x to extract it. This will apply the diff.gz. Inside that, export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches and run quilt push -a | 11:03 |
persia | !patch | 11:03 |
ubottu | Patches are files describing the changes in code to achieve some results. There are a number of ways these can be produced, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems may provide some useful guidelines. | 11:03 |
persia | Check the second link for more details | 11:04 |
m4rtin | persia: thank you -- that's what I needed :) one further q if I may: does my changelog have to be inside the quilt edits, or is the packaging process outside of quilt? | 11:05 |
persia | Please *don't* put the stuff in debian/ inside quilt patches: this just confuses the next person. | 11:06 |
m4rtin | persia: excellent. So I've done my edit. quilt refresh; quilt pop -a; do the packaging | 11:06 |
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jetienne | q. i would like to create a user in the .deb, how can i do that ? "sudo adduser slotaaa" keeps asking for interactive question. i dont want interactive stuff | 11:33 |
joaopinto | jetienne, check on how it's done on other packages, eg. postfix | 11:41 |
persia | Or check debian policy 9.2: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s9.2 | 11:43 |
Rhonda | jetienne: … and sudo isn't needed, the maintainer scripts run as root. :) | 11:44 |
jetienne | ok trying to get postfix example | 11:46 |
m4rtin | could someone take a look at a patch I've attached and tell me if it looks ok please? It's at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/435055 ; last comment | 11:47 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 435055 in bash-completion "Bash completion for wget -o doesn't escape spaces." [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:47 |
persia | m4rtin: It looks sane, but you may want to advertise in #ubuntu-devel, as there's a better chance someone there will be able to upload. Also, did you submit the bare patch (not debdiff) to Debian? | 11:49 |
hyperair | bash completion? i remember it failed for spaces for everything sometime back. | 11:49 |
m4rtin | hyperair: no, I didn't... should I have? | 11:50 |
m4rtin | hyperair: it still fails that for scp; that's my next task | 11:50 |
hyperair | m4rtin: didn't what? | 11:50 |
hyperair | m4rtin: oh i mean cat blah<tab> didn't work, for example. | 11:50 |
m4rtin | sorry that was to persia | 11:50 |
hyperair | i mean it'd complete up to the first space and stall | 11:50 |
* hyperair goes back into lurk mode | 11:51 | |
m4rtin | persia: I didn't submit to debian... should I (and how?) | 11:51 |
hyperair | mentors.debian.net | 11:52 |
persia | m4rtin: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian/Bugs and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian/Usertagging : short form "use submittodebian" | 11:53 |
persia | hyperair: Not best for a well-maintained package, usually, unless one has a prior relationship with the maintainers. | 11:54 |
hyperair | persia: oh whoops. sorry i wasn't thinking (my mind was thinking new package) | 11:54 |
hyperair | m4rtin: regarding bash-completion perhaps it's best to poke some people in #bash-completion on irc.oftc.net | 11:54 |
persia | Indeed. | 11:55 |
persia | Getting the patch there helps *everyone*. | 11:55 |
m4rtin | the problem is that they have fixed most of these bugs with a massive rewrite in their version control | 11:55 |
m4rtin | however, they don't release frequently | 11:56 |
m4rtin | it seems better to fix these bugs for lucid/debian and then when bash-completion team decide to release their next stable it will be solved anyway | 11:56 |
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NCommander | ScottK: ping, do you think a FFE for openttd would possibly fly? I'd like to see if we can sync it from sid | 16:17 |
ScottK | Depends on why and what the differences are. | 16:17 |
NCommander | ScottK: loads of bug fixes, and its now possible to put it in universe versus multiverse | 16:19 |
ScottK | Any new features? | 16:19 |
ScottK | Sounds promising. | 16:19 |
NCommander | ScottK: better AI I think, haven't compiled it yet | 16:20 |
NCommander | ScottK: the version in Ubuntu is fairly old compared to the version in sid | 16:20 |
NCommander | 0.7.5 to 1.0 | 16:20 |
ScottK | It sounds worth looking into. | 16:20 |
NCommander | ScottK: that's what I thought, hence why I wanted to ask if a FFE was out of the world of possibility | 16:21 |
ScottK | It's not. | 16:21 |
slytherin | Any archive admins present here? | 16:27 |
persia | slytherin: Usually, but except in special cases, it's best to ask archive-admin questions in #ubuntu-devel | 16:31 |
slytherin | Ok. Will ask there. | 16:32 |
slytherin | ScottK: Hi. Can you please explain what was the reason behind adding explicit libtalloc-dev build-dep to evolution-mapi? | 17:00 |
ScottK | slytherin: It uses the talloc headers (as evidenced by the shlibs generated runtime depends) | 17:06 |
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slytherin | ScottK: A simple grep -r talloc.h in source yields nothing. Also check this text from build log - warning: dependency on libtalloc.so.2 could be avoided if **** were not uselessly linked against it (they use none of its symbols). | 17:12 |
ScottK | slytherin: The fact is that it is linked. | 17:12 |
ScottK | slytherin: It's possible it's not needed. | 17:13 |
persia | That would involve a buildsystem patch. Adding another build-dependency is the easy (and safe) way out at this point in the release cycle. | 17:13 |
persia | File a bug and fix it right for maverick. | 17:13 |
slytherin | ScottK: Right. That is what I meant. It may be unnecessarily linked. | 17:14 |
slytherin | ScottK: I was actually planning to file a sync request for version in Debian (2.28.3) which a bug-fix update. Hence I was checking with you if Ubuntu changes are important to keep. | 17:15 |
* ScottK isn't saying that's the best solution, just made sense as part of doing the NBS rebuilds for libtalloc0 | 17:15 | |
ScottK | slytherin: I'll leave it for you to decide. | 17:15 |
slytherin | In any case libtalloc-dev gets pulled in because of other build-deps. | 17:15 |
ScottK | Yes, but one shouldn't rely on that | 17:18 |
ari-tczew | jdong: did you talk with SRU team about my objections? | 17:22 |
slytherin | ScottK: In this case the (build)dependency seems unnecessary, so I suggest we drop this and make it a sync. | 17:22 |
ScottK | slytherin: Your call. | 17:52 |
lfaraone | ScottK: would you be willing to review bug 556483? james_w said you felt that it might need a FFE. | 17:55 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 556483 in xpdf "Merge xpdf 3.02-2 from Debian Unstable" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/556483 | 17:55 |
lfaraone | ScottK: (it already has the debian changelog attached, there were no upstream changes) | 17:56 |
lfaraone | jdstrand: bug 552720 in squeak-vm needs a FFE, right? | 17:58 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 552720 in squeak-vm "please merge 3.11.3+svn2147-1 from Debian testing" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/552720 | 17:58 |
jdstrand | lfaraone: squeak-vm is in universe, so based on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess I'd say 'no' | 18:01 |
jdstrand | lfaraone: plus, as it stands, it is totally unuseable | 18:02 |
james_w | lfaraone: please make the request. Unusable as it is will probably make it very likely to get it, but we shouldn't circumvent the process. | 18:05 |
lfaraone | james_w, okay. | 18:06 |
* jdstrand (re)rereads FreezeExceptionProcess and sees it would need it | 18:15 | |
lfaraone | jdstrand: I can't seem to find the upstream changelog for that revision, the best I could find was http://squeakvm.org/unix/platforms/unix/doc/RELEASE_NOTES_3.11.3.2135 | 18:18 |
jdstrand | lfaraone: I see platforms/unix/ChangeLog in the source | 18:20 |
jdong | ari-tczew: I was under the understanding you were going to write something up to us | 18:24 |
ari-tczew | jdong: [Sunday 28 March 2010] [19:51:51] <jdong> ari-tczew: I'd start with mailing the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list, cc'ing the SRU team members, about your concern that the related bugs display in launchpad isn't a satisfactory radar map for what SRU tasks remain needing attention. | 18:27 |
jdong | ari-tczew: poor wording, I meant if I were you, I'd start with.. | 18:28 |
persia | That looks like a request to receive mail to me | 18:28 |
jdong | sorry | 18:28 |
jdong | language barrier, lost in translation :) | 18:29 |
ari-tczew | jdong: so what's the final decision? | 18:31 |
jdong | ari-tczew: you start mail, please :) | 18:32 |
jdong | it is your concern, so I think you'd be the best to voice it | 18:32 |
ari-tczew | jdong: okay, but currect I don't have time, maybe in the second half of april | 18:33 |
ari-tczew | s/currect/current | 18:33 |
jdong | I am similarly scheduled :) | 18:35 |
ari-tczew | hehe | 18:36 |
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kklimonda | how to request a removal of the unbuildable package? | 21:13 |
geser | file a removal bug | 21:16 |
geser | why is the package unbuildable? | 21:16 |
mhall119 | jdstrand: can you check the copyright files in the qimo-* packages in revu please? | 21:19 |
kklimonda | geser: it depends on evo 2.30 | 21:23 |
kklimonda | I | 21:24 |
kklimonda | I'm trying to find out if any previous package builds on lucid | 21:24 |
geser | kklimonda: what about the last build debs which are still published? do they still work? | 21:28 |
kklimonda | geser: they don't install | 21:29 |
kklimonda | geser: it's anjal | 21:29 |
geser | I assumed it's anjal as there aren't that many packages in depwait on evo 2.30 | 21:29 |
kklimonda | geser: the ubuntu3 package that is build doesn't install, it has to be rebuilt - I should (1) request package removal and then.. ask to upload no-change ubuntu4 to rebuild it? | 21:31 |
kklimonda | (there is another option - to remove anjal from lucid completely as the 0.0.1 release we have is old one) | 21:33 |
geser | kklimonda: I'm not sure if LP would allow that and the next question is if the archive admins are OK with this solution as they have to NEW the source again | 21:33 |
kklimonda | mhm | 21:35 |
kklimonda | I'll ask on #-devel then | 21:35 |
kklimonda | ah, you are already on it ;) | 21:36 |
geser | it's only related to this | 21:37 |
geser | as I've noticed that the old debs are still published but only the new source version | 21:38 |
kklimonda | right, that's also a problem - well, there is 0.0.1...ubuntu3 source downloadable but you have to dig -changes list for the link | 21:39 |
kklimonda | probably not easy enough | 21:39 |
geser | yeah, LP has still the old source but it's not on archive.u.c anymore | 21:41 |
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jdstrand | mhall119: done | 22:07 |
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lfaraone | Hm. Does http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=548551 look severe enough to justify a sync? | 23:17 |
ubottu | Debian bug 548551 in dancer-services "dancer-services: Incorrect dependencies in init.d LSB header" [Serious,Fixed] | 23:18 |
bobbo | evening MOTUs! | 23:29 |
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