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ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (17))00:47
rwwHello. fujisan is ban-evading in #ubuntu-offtopic, per the following ban:01:20
rww17:19:28 -!- 134 - #ubuntu-offtopic: ban fujisan!*@*.ftth.xms.internl.net [by bartol.freenode.net, 912563 secs ago]01:20
rwwalso:01:23
rww17:19:28 -!- 86 - #ubuntu-offtopic: ban *!*@unaffiliated/fujisan [by bartol.freenode.net, 912563 secs ago]01:23
rwwThanks Seeker` :)01:23
winXPuserhello can I invite ubottu to my channel?01:32
Seeker`what channel would that be?01:32
winXPusersome unrelated to Ubuntu, one opensource project01:33
winXPuserso?01:33
winXPuserSeeker`: ^01:33
fujisanCan someone help me please?01:34
winXPuserok help with what?01:34
Seeker`winXPuser: no, ubottu is only for Ubuntu core channels; I believe the source is available somewhere if you wish to host your own though01:34
fujisanIt appears my old bans wont dissapear i have been hanging around ubuntu-nl and ubuntu-nl-offtopic for a long time now without getting banned on good behaviour why dont i get another chance in the other rooms01:35
fujisani dont want to be the 'famous' troll anymore i have grownup will i ever get a chance to prove this01:36
fujisanor am i now some sort of victim of my adolescence?01:36
fujisanand Seeker`  i really didnt know the bans were still in place sorry i didnt left ubuntu-uk earlier i am a bit shocked01:37
fujisanto say the least of bans lasting this long01:37
Seeker`we typically have a policy of people having to speak to the op that banned them to get them removed, so that they actually gain an understanding of why they were banned01:38
fujisanwith the amount of bans i had in the past i have no idea who set the bans01:39
Seeker`I have no idea who set them either01:39
fujisani have an extremely bad reputation you have no idea01:39
fujisanany advise on what to do then?01:39
knomeSeeker`, bot doesn't tell you that?01:39
Seeker`knome: depends, sometimes it does01:39
Seeker`@btlogin01:39
Seeker`@whoami01:40
fujisani would just like to be unbanned in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel if possible01:40
Seeker`@login01:40
ubottuThe operation succeeded.01:40
Seeker`@btlogin01:40
Seeker`it is just a little difficult to work out who exactly banned you last01:46
Seeker`as far as I can tell, ikonia in -ot01:47
fujisanokay01:47
fujisanwell nvm then01:47
fujisani will just accept that i am banned as long as he/she is admin , i know this person hates me with a passion01:48
fujisanok bye01:48
macoO_o01:49
elkyhi Paradox, can we help with something?02:02
Paradoxhey, i have a question about the various supybot mods made for #ubuntu. Should i ask in some other channel? Basically i want to know whats newer. Niko's supybot-ircd-seven or https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak02:02
elkyThis is the first i've heard of supybot-ircd-seven. Is it in a VCS which you can compare timestamps to tsimpson's code?02:03
Paradoxits on bzr too02:04
Paradoxhold on a sec, let me get the url02:04
Paradoxhttps://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fr/+junk/supybot-ircd-seven02:04
Paradoxi've been using it for quite a while, and niko has been most helpful02:04
Paradoxbut i want to look into forwarding plugins, ex .time > paradox would say Paradox: Time02:05
elkycompare the dates under the "recent revisions" heading.02:05
Paradoxi guess what i really meant to say was which one functions better02:05
elkyInstall both and compare against your specific needs?02:07
elkyI can't answer to which is "better", as "better" isn't a definitive thing.02:08
Paradoxwell thanks for the help02:08
Paradox:)02:08
tsimpsonthey have different plugins, I don't really know anything about what ubotu-fr does differently, but ubottu runs code from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bots/ubuntu-bots/devel (moved from https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak)02:09
elkytsimpson, you might want to make that more clear on the ~tsimpson page then02:10
tsimpsonhttps://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fr/+junk/supybot-ircd-seven seems to be a modified version of supybot02:10
tsimpsondone02:12
Paradoxwhat im really looking for is just the ability to redirect a command02:17
Paradoxthe best demonstration i can give is in #wordpress, you can run command > user02:17
Paradoxand it highlights the user and displays the output of the command02:18
Paradoxi tried to use an alias+echo02:18
Paradoxbut thats prone to abuse02:18
tsimpsonwe use Encyclopedia for that02:18
elky!bots | Paradox02:21
ubottuParadox: Hi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots02:21
elky!hi > Paradox02:21
ubottuParadox, please see my private message02:21
elkyWhich of those pieces of functionality is what you're talking about?02:22
Paradoxelky, the latter02:24
Paradoxalthough the former would work too02:24
Paradoxso i guess both02:24
knomewhat a paradox!02:24
knome;)02:24
elkyThey're both in the mutated Encyclopedia plugin, iirc.02:25
Paradox!time | elky02:25
ubottuelky: Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)02:25
Paradoxoh so thats all the encyclopedia02:25
Paradoxhrm02:25
Paradoxno way to make it for normal supybot plugins, like .google?02:25
elkyThere probably is. You probably need to put in some work though.02:26
Paradoxi was hoping for a lazy solution, but thanks anyways02:26
elkyWell the lazy solution would be cutting-pasting. We don't use .google, so hence we've not mutated it to our requirements.02:27
Paradoxmy current solution has been alias @ echo $*02:27
Paradoxbut that can be used for other problems02:28
Paradoxusers use it to .google blah | @ paradox02:28
Paradoxor something similar02:28
knomethat's complex02:28
tsimpsonif you want custom behaviour, you need to make custom plugins02:29
tsimpsonthat's why ubottu uses custom plugins02:29
Paradoxi'm aware, problem is im not very good with python, and the reddit devs have too much other stuff to work on to develop plugins02:29
elkyReddit is a big community. Surely this is something it can crowdsource new contributors for. Really.02:31
Paradoxreddit is, #reddit is only 217 users02:32
Paradoxi guess i could go post a call for help on /r/python02:32
elkyIf you haven't already, then you might surprise yourself with the result.02:32
elkyParadox, if mere kudos alone doesn't work, you'd be surprised at how much can be achieved with a free tshirt.02:34
ParadoxMeh, ill get Keysers to stick it to the frontpage02:35
Paradoxlol02:35
elky(no seriously, GSoC is about the tshirts, not the $5k)02:35
macoif youre not accepted and do the project anyway, you still get a shirt02:36
elkyYup.02:36
elkyWhich is where most of the tshirts go, i hear.02:36
knomewhich is not a bad thing.02:36
elkyWhich is utterly adorable.02:36
knomeand cute02:37
macosynonym time?02:37
elkymaco, something can be cute without being adorable.02:37
knomeno, the time when you realize the upgrade you started 45 mins ago is a suicide02:37
knome(because it's way too late and you should be able to work tomorrow)02:38
Azlan3hello03:36
persiahi03:36
Azlan3i'm banned from #ubuntu ?03:36
Azlan3i dn't know hy03:36
Azlan3hi03:39
Azlan3why am ibanned03:39
persiaJust wait around a bit, and one of the #ubuntu ops will look up the reason in the bantracker, and let you know.03:44
* persia can't actually help with this specific issue03:44
Azlan3alright. thank you.03:45
* Azlan3 is sad persia cannot help with this specific issue03:45
nhandler@login03:49
nhandlerHmm...ubottu isn't responding03:51
ubottuThe operation succeeded.03:51
nhandlerAzlan3: The web gateway is banned. Follow the instructions in #ubuntu-proxy-users03:52
nhandlerHmm...Actually, ignore the /topic. I thought it had info03:53
nhandlerAzlan3: Try now03:54
tsimpsonthis ircd seems broken...03:55
tsimpsonseems we periodically need to undo/redo the gateway ban03:57
tsimpsonit's happened a couple of times now since the new ircd03:58
nhandlerAzlan3: Is there anything else we can help you with?03:58
tsimpsonAzlan3: try joining #ubuntu again, you should be sent to #ubuntu-proxy-users and then invited to #ubuntu03:59
nhandlertsimpson: The exempt was set03:59
tsimpsonit should have been unset though...03:59
tsimpsonoh well03:59
tsimpsonthose +e's should be cleared sometime04:00
ubottuGnea called the ops in #ubuntu (Brauzer is trolling)06:04
elkybazhang, what are they trying to say, exactly?06:07
bazhangelky, no clue, they were not using utf-806:08
bazhangthey are in -ru now however06:08
elkygood06:10
bazhangnow in -ot06:17
ubottuDamascene called the ops in #ubuntu-desktop ()06:58
ubottuvalorie called the ops in #ubuntu-women ()07:09
ubotturww called the ops in #ubuntu-women (GlennBeck)07:29
dholbachgood morning08:17
ubottumaginot called the ops in #ubuntu ()10:24
ubottulorenzosu called the ops in #ubuntu (Ragnar)10:25
jussi01!staff | [12:23:50] <Ragnar> loled hard http://cli.gs/5hNRye10:26
jussi01!staff10:26
ubottuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)10:26
jussi01dumb bot10:27
jpdsYes.11:00
jussi01Ops! please remember to comment on the wiki's of potential operators (or send an email to the ircc if you prefer privacy). You can see who has applied via the teams in LP!12:43
PiciFolks, SpaceGhostC2C wants to be a part of -offtopic, so if he comes here or asks any of you about his own or someone elses behavior in that channel, please be nice, he isn't trolling.13:23
bazhanghe is very unpleasant though.13:24
PiciYou don't need to like him to be nice.13:25
bazhangplacing someone on /ignore when he has repeatedly been asked to stop a certain discussion is not a way forward.13:26
PiciI'm talking to him about that.13:34
elkyI take somewhat of an exception when he comes in sniffing for us to "confess" loopholes in the syntax of conversation that he can exploit to be a pain.13:47
elkyI also take exception to him needing to ask permission to do things like sleep. I hope he's grown out of that one since last week.13:47
PiciI'll be honest that I've been a bit out of the loop lately, so I'm not really up-to-date on his or anyone elses's recent issues.13:48
jussi01ooh, nice. fix has been released for the guadalinux #ubuntu issue. :)13:59
persia\o/14:00
gordwoo, roll on the next issue with $thing!14:03
jussi01so while Ive got some attention here... please read up to my comment about an hour back14:17
persiaIs there some nice master reference page that links to them all?14:20
jussi01persia: kinda - the applicants should have it listed on their LP page, so just go to the LP teams page and see who the applicants for that team are.14:22
persiaYou describe a process sufficiently complex that I'm not going to do it whilst participating in two meetings :)  Make it simple, and everyone will do it.14:23
jussi01persia: click here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~irc-ubuntu-ops/+members then click the profile of the person you want to see their wiki. then click the wiki link.14:25
jussi01persia: here also: https://edge.launchpad.net/~irc-kubuntu-ops/+members14:26
jussi01and strangely... or not so strangely, there are none for: https://edge.launchpad.net/~irc-ubuntu-offtopic-ops/+members14:26
bazhangno need at this point imo14:27
jussi01bazhang: ?14:27
bazhangthe spaceghost situation jussi0114:27
jussi01oh14:27
jussi01did anyone else get an invite to a ## channel?15:05
Picinhandler: any reason y15:31
Trekis there a way to find what the "lart" factoid said before LART was disabled?15:31
Trekfrom Ubottu15:31
Picinhandler: any reason you're opped in #ubuntu?15:31
jussi01Trek: no. but it said nothing - I added it.15:31
Trekah15:32
Trekunderstandable...15:32
PiciTrek: <ubottu> L.A.R.T. is a development tool used for social engineering. [Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool]15:32
Trekah THERE we go15:32
Trekthanks pici15:32
Picijussi01: no, it said that.15:32
jussi01oh. My memory is going. my apologies.15:33
Picijussi01: its okay, mine is too ;)15:33
Myrttijussi01: atleast I can't see anything else than Approved members on that page15:57
Myrttioh, nevermind15:58
jussi01G*16:01
ubottuardchoille called the ops in #ubuntu (Martiini)16:44
ubottugtklocker called the ops in #ubuntu ()16:44
Myrttihim again...16:46
ubottugtklocker called the ops in #ubuntu (TontitoSoundSyst)16:46
gtklocker@jpds16:48
gtklockerTontitoSoundSyst16:48
gtklockerIs this right?16:48
jpdsHe hasn't sent me anything.16:48
gtklockerFull message: "<TontitoSoundSyst> Hello gtklocker I am a Victoria's Secret employee that notices how great you would look in one of our bras so what is your bra size?"16:48
jpdsPici: Hi.16:49
Picijpds: oh16:49
Myrttithere is no such nick in the whole network16:49
Piciuh16:50
Myrttiand he wasn't in #ubuntu at any point16:50
jpdsFun.16:50
gtklockerHm, and so. Sorry.16:51
jpdsAmaranth: Nice.16:51
Picigtklocker: Looks like some other people were reporting similar issues in #freenode anyway though.16:52
PiciI'm getting some odd spam from people that I don't share any channels with as well.16:53
persiaIt's the new fashion: grep logs to get nicks, so the links cannot be traced.16:55
ubottuSeveas called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (Apokal)17:57
jussi01!staff | please have a look at apokal18:00
ubottuplease have a look at apokal: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)18:00
ubottuTrek called the ops in #ubuntu (er is spamming)18:14
mneptokdare: i'm curious as to why you persisted in discussing a topic that you were told was inappropriate.18:29
darehallo niko18:29
darewie geht es dir?18:29
mneptokdare: if you do not want to discuss your #ubuntu ban, please /part this channel.18:31
darevielen danke18:31
mneptoktschuess18:31
dareoh, i'm suffering from an unappropriate redirect18:32
mneptokyou're banforwarded here from #ubuntu18:32
mneptokuntil you discuss the issue and convince us your behavior will not be repeated, the banforward will not be removed.18:33
mneptokdare: if you do not want to discuss your #ubuntu ban, please /part this channel.18:37
dareI do for it to be undone18:37
Myrttithat's not really discussing18:38
dareYou misunderstood, I /part to be force-joined afterwards18:40
Myrttiit's still not discussing18:41
mneptokdare: stop trying to join #ubuntu and you will not be forwarded here18:45
persiaOr turn off auto-join, if you have that enabled.18:54
ikoniacan we now assume dare is idle after not saying anything for 15 minutes18:59
dareyes, stop playing with me + neutralize the forced joins please18:59
persiadare: We can't: it's a client thing.19:00
dareif I am banned here, there will be a forced join to #ubuntu-ops-ops? :-(19:00
Pici(Hes talking about the banforward)19:00
dareeternal hell?19:00
dareetc, etc19:00
Picidare: mneptok asked you a question earlier, you still have not addressed it.19:01
darethe issue is too sensitive for public eyes19:01
jussi01dare: Im sure mneptok would be happy to discuss in PM.19:02
dareunfortunately it's too important to discuss over IRC19:03
Myrttiright...19:07
ikoniais there anything else that needs to be discussed ?19:12
ikoniadare: do you have anything else to say ?19:16
daretoodle pip? .......19:17
ikoniaok then, bye19:17
mneptokPici: what question?20:24
mneptokoh, NM20:25
Picidare: i'm curious as to why you persisted in discussing a topic that you were told was inappropriate.20:25
* mneptok is dyslexic20:25
Pici^^20:25
mneptoki read it as dare asking me a question20:25
mneptoksorry, bad week.20:25
PiciI know the feeling.20:25
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ubottuIn ubottu, neoraj said: who is ubottu20:50
Pici!bot > neoraj20:50
jpdsNOOOOOOOOOO20:54
jussi01oh bugger :(20:54
jpdsPici: WHAT DID YOU DO?20:54
jpds;)20:55
knomeit was me20:55
PiciYOU BLEW IT ALL UP20:55
* knome hides20:55
jussi01err20:59
jussi01ok...20:59
jussi01@nick ubottu21:01
ubott2In ubott2, ChanServ said: [#xubuntu] This channel is officially logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/21:01
ubott2Error: Someone else is already using that nick.21:02
knomehaha21:03
knomegood work21:03
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