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ograslangasek, arm images dont use OO.o, we need to make sure OO.o gets built on one of the new machines, the old ones segfault randomly00:00
slangasekwhich ones are the new ones?00:01
ograslangasek, but that shouldnt hold up beta00:01
ograubuntu-netbook and ubuntu-server are the ones we test00:01
ogranetbook has the new weboffice stuff in the image, while its important that we have OO.o building and running for final it doesnt impact the milestones anymore00:02
ScottKIt's still on the KNR armel images.00:03
ograslangasek, oh, you mean the new builders ? (sorry, i'm very tired) lamont should be able to tell, i think gourd is one of the new ones00:03
ogracushaw sounds new as well00:03
slangasekprevious build was on buttercup - do you know if that's new or old?00:04
ogranot of the top of my head, lamont is really the safest person to ask here, he just set up a set of new builders00:05
slangaseklamont: ping00:05
* ogra is totally swamped in omap stuff since a while 00:06
ograslangasek, do you plan a d-i upload before beta ? (i saw you bumped the ABI for armel arches and the commit i did today for omap would be helpful for server images)00:08
slangasekserver images?00:08
ograwe build netbook, servar and netinst images for all arm arches00:09
lamontogra: new (bbg3): buttercup, cushaw, gourd00:09
ogra*server00:09
slangasekogra: ^^ then OOo is FTBFS on the new armel buildds.00:10
lamontogra: and to come: acorn crabapple satinash hubbard sycamore hawthorn00:10
lamontthough one of those will be livecd builds00:10
ograslangasek, given the kernel is only half way there (still waiting on amit here to do teh final fixes) i'd be fine to have at least a server image atm00:10
ogralamont, can you give back OO.o to build on one of the old buildds to check if its probably an issue with the new setup ?00:11
slangasekogra: building server images is an artifact of how the cronjobs are set up, no one has mentioned to me that we're supposed to support armel server images; why do you care if those are working?00:12
lamontogra: with some sobbing, yes00:12
slangasek(I had no plans to upload d-i because I was unaware anyone cared - you can upload it, though)00:12
ograslangasek, we dont *suuport* them per se :) they are just the easiest thing to get working to have something at all00:12
ograslangasek, currentl kernel prob with omap is that HID is screwed, so live images are a no go on an arch that only has USB input00:13
ogra*current00:13
slangasekheh00:13
lamontogra: so we know it'll fail on buttercup?00:13
ogralamont, apparently00:13
slangaseklamont: yes00:13
lamontjust for the record, this isn't trivial.00:14
slangasekwhat isn't?00:14
lamontforcing the m achine it lands on00:14
slangasekoh, giving back on an old one00:14
ograwell, its not urgent that we have oo.o for beta, but i think it seems to show a potential buildd prob00:14
slangasekI don't see the point in doing it00:14
wgrantlamont: I suppose you have to flip them all onto manual, tweak a build score, and flip one back onto auto? Ew.00:14
ograwell, probably something for next week anyway, given that all old machines are totally busy atm00:15
lamontwgrant: step 0: nuke the current build to get it back into failed00:15
ograyeah, dont nuke gcc00:16
lamontwhich actually is just a matter of waiting for the build to get to that step00:16
wgrantTrue.00:16
lamontthe easy part is landing it on an old machine - I have some of those that are trying to be retired00:16
ograslangasek, when did you give it back last time ?00:22
ograthe log i checked today seems to have failed in a different place00:23
ogra(today like about 12-14h ago)00:23
lamontit does help to have a spare buildd in your back pocket.00:24
lamonthuito is building it, but ogra... I'm thinking you really want it to fail there, too.00:25
ograyeah, i really hope it does00:25
slangasekogra: I think I last gave it back before that00:25
ograhmm, k, then i might misremember, i cant remember seeing anything about localedata around the segfault line00:26
ograslangasek, d-i is in the queue00:32
slangasekok00:32
lamontat any rate,  afk for a goodly while, I think00:32
* slangasek gets the isotracker a-movin'03:40
ScottKAh my, he's not done.04:08
ScottKAh/Oh04:12
slangasekwho?04:15
ScottKslangasek: zul.  This big slew of Universe uploads is all zul doing mysql rebuilds.04:27
slangasekah04:28
slangasekwhy are mysql rebuilds needed, OOI?04:28
slangasek(I don't see anything on NBS)04:28
ScottKMaybe he's trying to get everything to 5.1.04:36
ScottKNot sure.04:36
slangasekmmk04:38
slangasekGrueMaster: FWIW, ARM candidate images for beta2 have started building, but with the addition of omap, I guess that'll take another 2 hours longer so won't be ready 'til morning04:39
ScottKIf stuff isn't seeded, I'm just pushing Universe through.  I view needing the push as a workaround to an LP limitation because the unseeded part of Universe isn't frozen.04:39
* slangasek nods04:40
slangasekspeaking of which, is there a reason chromium-browser is still in the queue?  Does somebody have that seeded somewhere?04:41
* wgrant points at the augmented queue, with package sets.04:42
ScottKI thought it was seeded on armel, but I wasnt' sure04:42
* slangasek chuckles04:42
ScottKwgrant: Very helpful.04:42
ScottKUnfortunately I've discovered as a result that package sets are manually maintained at the moment and not always in sync with the seeds.04:42
wgrantYAY04:43
ScottKThat's a limitation of the current initial implementation.  Not "the plan".04:43
slangasekScottK: chromium-browser was investigated for armel this cycle, and in the end they stuck with firefox04:43
wgrantAh, good.04:43
ScottKslangasek: OK.  Thanks.  I'll accept it then.04:43
ScottKslangasek: I left twm there because it's a pending MIR issue.  I'm not sure Depends -> Suggests for menu is a great idea.04:44
ScottKI didn't get a chance to see what twm uses it for.04:45
slangasektwitch04:45
slangasekhas someone opened an MIR bug, or is it just currently in components-mismatches?04:45
ScottKThere's a MIR bug.  It's referenced in debian/changelog04:45
ScottKThe MIR is ~approved too.04:46
ScottKRead the bug and then double twitch.04:46
slangasekmeh, I think the right answer is to b-d on metacity instead of twm04:47
slangasekpromoting a wm just to have it for a java test suite seems absurd to me04:47
ScottKThus the double twitch.04:47
ScottKslangasek: Are you going to write in the bug and reject it?04:51
slangasekScottK: I've commented the bug, but I'm not ubuntu-mir04:51
slangasekso I'll wait for their decision before accepting/rejecting the package04:52
ScottKOK.04:52
slangasekin the meantime, AFK04:52
GrueMasterslangasek: What, you mean I can't start testing until after midnight?  Aww.  :P05:42
aramorning all!07:23
* slangasek waves07:46
arahey slangasek07:48
ttxslangasek, ara: o/07:58
mvottx: good morning, not sure you have noticed, I added the server-tasks upgrade test profile. karmic->lucid seems to have a conffile prompt in bind9, otherwise it looks good08:05
ttxmvo: no, haven't had a look yet. That sounds good, thanks. Do we have a bug about the bind9 thing or do you want me to look into it ?08:06
mvottx: I have not checked for bugs or details yet, I do a app-install-data update now, then I can check it out08:06
slangasekGrueMaster: arm netbook is up08:27
slangasekara: should the UbuntuGlobalJam milestone be hidden on the tracker?08:28
araslangasek, indeed, I'll do it08:29
slangasekthanks08:29
pittislangasek: still okay to sync a new tzdata into lucid at this point, or shall I do it after beta-2? (just two simple DST rule updates, bug 550157)09:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 550157 in tzdata "DST time is cancelled in Tunisia - 2010h available" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55015709:19
slangasekpitti: if it's not urgent, please wait until after beta2 or until we have to reroll for something else09:35
slangasekhttp://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/weatherreport.html is a lot easier to read when it lists 0s instead of 1s09:35
pittislangasek: not that urgent; time will be wrong in Tunesia and Pakistan, but it's certainly not worth a re-roll09:35
pittiyes, understood09:36
slangasekwill be wrong immediately?09:36
pittiyes, the changes got effective two weeks ago in Tunis09:36
slangasekyuck :/09:36
pittioh, Pakistan only changes April 15, so that's still ok09:36
pittislangasek: but we'll provide an updated tzdata in lucid, so on an installed system you can just upgrade09:37
slangasekyeah09:37
pittislangasek: I'd only sync it if you were planning a re-roll anyway09:37
slangasekI guess the SRUs are more important for production09:37
pittiright, I'm doing them right now09:37
pitti+# > On Thursday (2010-03-25) it was announced that DST would start in09:37
pitti+# > Pakistan on 2010-04-01.09:37
pittiHow the heck can governments do things like that??09:37
* pitti stops grumbling and continues to fire SRUs09:38
slangasekthey can do things like that because there's no physical law that ensures good sense in government :)09:39
pittiright, and instead we get bug comments "24 hours later, still not assigned... and importance "undecided".... Viva Ubuntu ! Pfffffff...... :-(" ...09:40
pittislangasek: want me to process those SRUs myself?09:41
slangasekyeah, feel free09:42
slangasekcomments> those are the kind of people I tell that they should be complaining to their government for being irresponsible09:43
ttxcjwatson: "splash" is still present on the beta2 candidate server install09:45
ttxpitti: sounds like an april 1st joke09:45
pittittx: sadly not; many countries do that unfortunately09:45
ttxslangasek: for some reasons, the samba-server task installs winbind, so the pam_winbind profile borkenage affects the resulting install -- I'm looking at where that comes from09:47
slangasekttx: I would expect a samba server task to include winbind09:48
slangasekI'd rather focus on understanding the profile error, which I have yet to reproduce here despite having pam_winbind configured09:49
ttxslangasek: right09:49
slangasekI really need someone who's seeing this problem to post me their full /etc/pam.d/common-* for analysis09:49
ttxI can reproduce on a bare ISO+samba-server task install, cannot log in09:49
ttxI can provide that info09:50
slangasekincluding on console?09:50
ttxyes.09:50
slangasekok09:50
ttxjust a sec, booting single-user mode and packing that up for you09:51
slangasekthanks09:51
ttxthe missing piece of the puzzle might be that pam_smbpass is also active09:54
ttx(or not)09:54
slangasekI've been running with both pam_winbind and pam_smbpass active for months09:55
slangasekno errors09:55
slangasekI've just stripped it down to unix+winbind; still no errors09:55
* ttx grumbles -- for some reason I can't login even with winbind disabled10:00
* ttx digs deeper10:00
slangasekah :)10:01
ttxhmm, I must have forgotten the password I used in my ISO install (or mistyped it... twice??!), let me re-reproduce cleanly :)10:06
ttxor.. maybe the password was not set correctly at the end of the install on top of the borken stack.10:07
ttxew, and the primary user is not added to sudoers group either10:09
slangasekcheck for a password hash in /etc/shadow?10:10
slangasek(if you haven't already clobbered it)10:10
ttxI clobbered it10:10
ttxbut I'm reproducing on another box10:10
slangasekok10:10
slangasekI was musing that this might be a possibility10:10
slangasekbut that means the installer isn't letting the user know about failures setting the password?10:11
ttxI'll have a look at the install console and see if there is something showing, but yes, I'd suspect the installer wouldn't let you know about it10:12
* ttx reboots in single-user mode to get sufficient privileges to access that profiles tarball10:13
slangasekI expect better than that of the installer :)10:14
ttxtook longer than expected, but here you go:10:18
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/546874/comments/1710:18
ubottuUbuntu bug 546874 in samba "passwd - can't login, change password (pam_winbind pam-auth-update profile)" [High,Triaged]10:18
ttxI'm reproducing on an unclobbered new install to look at the state of the passwd file10:18
ttxslangasek: confirmed, no passwd hash entry on the regular user in /etc/shadow at the end of the install10:20
slangasekyay10:20
ttxalso the installer logs show that it fails10:22
ttxchpasswd pam_winbind failure10:22
ttxWBC_ERR_WINBIND_NOT_AVAILABLE10:22
ttxwarning: /usr/lib/finish-install.d/06user-setup returned error code 110:23
* slangasek nods10:23
ttxbut that's apparently not a blocking error.10:23
ttxslangasek: so the "even on console" answer above might be biased: doing it "from ISO" like this will end up with no passwd set, so you obviously can't login even on console.10:26
ttxthat doesn't mean the pam stack would prevent you from doing so, given that there is a good passwd entry set.10:27
* ttx checks on an already-installed system10:27
slangasekttx: so the fix to winbind is pretty straightforward, I think10:30
slangasek1) call pam-auth-update in winbind.postinst10:30
ttx(and prerm)10:30
slangasek2) Password-Type: Primary instead of Password-Type: Additional in debian/winbind.pam-config10:31
ttxah, so the auth stack was never wrong, just the password stack10:32
ttxwith the ISo installs blurring the line10:32
ttxslangasek: if that's all it takes, I'll assign me and target to beta2, if that's ok with you10:34
mvottx: bug #556332 - bind9 is acting strange here, feedback welcome10:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 556332 in bind9 "leftover /etc/init.d/bind9.dpkg-dist on 9.10 -> 10.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55633210:35
mvottx: not a showstopper or anything, but really odd IMO10:35
ttxmvo: I'll add it to the hit list10:35
ttxmvo: thanks10:35
slangasekttx: sure, go ahead10:36
slangasek(still doesn't explain some people who are reporting *recent* problems being able to log in, but we can at least fix the installer case this way)10:37
ttxmost people report passwd-changing issues. The ones with login problems are usually beta ISo testers10:38
ttxso that seems coherent10:38
slangasekre: the prerm, I've already committed the fix for that in Debian Samba svn; but it's bound up now with the question of whether Debian is doing 3.4 or 3.5 for squeeze, so you'll need to cherry-pick10:39
ttxok10:40
mvottx: and bug #55634310:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 556343 in bind9 "upgrade error on 8.04 -> 10.04 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55634310:49
mvottx: more important as it causes a real failure10:49
slangasekttx: bug #546874's submitter claimed that logins were broken, only after an upgrade, and he installed from a desktop - I don't see any way that winbind would get pulled in immediately as part of a desktop install so the initial password setting should still be correct, and anyway we have his statement that it broke only after upgrade11:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 546874 in samba "passwd - can't login, change password (pam_winbind pam-auth-update profile)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54687411:01
slangasekso there's some other bug here, still11:01
ttxah, yes, got lost in duplicates.11:03
ttxslangasek: did you get some answer about removing the wine rdepends ?11:06
cjwatsonttx: still catching up from holiday - syncing and having a look, may take a while11:11
ttxcjwatson: ack11:20
slangasekttx: no11:20
slangasekttx: I also didn't file a bug about it; would you care to, or should I do so in the morning?11:21
ttxslangasek: I'll do it11:21
cjwatsonthat winbind failure in user-setup above might well cause some odd knock-on effects, despite not blocking11:21
slangasekpython-pkg-resources> curses, one o-o-d package on all ISOs now11:21
slangasekcjwatson: it causes knock-on effects like a successful install w/o an authenticatable user, apparently...11:22
cjwatsonyes, I can believe that.  needs rather better error handling, but for now we need to fix the failure anyway ...11:24
slangasekyep11:24
ttxslangasek: here is the winbind fix ^12:42
ScottKslangasek: Last week you removed libannodex, but left pyannodex.  Would you please remove that too?13:17
* ScottK reports a bug.13:17
cjwatsonttx: is there a bug open for the server splash still not working?  (if not, don't bother filing one, just want to check if I should be closing one)13:19
ttxcjwatson: no, I just commented on the existing one, wasn't sure which task I should reopen, if any13:21
ttxI was wondering if something wasn't just waiting for a respin to trigger13:21
cjwatsonno, it's a bug13:23
cjwatsonI'll reopen the existing bug, then13:24
cjwatsonthe "could not write bytes: broken pipe" bit is unrelated, but I think there's already a bug somewhere for that13:24
cjwatsonparted: not needed for beta-213:29
cjwatsoncould somebody please review grub-installer?  RC IMO, to fix ttx's problem above13:57
ttxyes, we definitely need the potentially-final server boot experience in beta2 for testing :)13:59
cjwatsonit also needs another debian-cd change, which I have prepared and ready to go13:59
ScottKcjwatson: Looks good to me.  Accepting.14:09
ScottKDone.14:10
cjwatsonScottK: thanks14:12
ScottKcjwatson: I know there isn't any documentation in the package to be affected, but is there online documentation about customization that needs updating for splash=false instead of nosplash?14:15
cjwatsonScottK: I wouldn't expect so - nosplash is very new, on the order of days14:17
ScottKOK.  Thanks.14:17
ScottK"If your documentation is that bleeding edge, you need to be paying attention"14:18
ttxcjwatson: could you respin a Server ISO / beta2 candidate whenever that fix lands ? Also the samba in the queue (unbreaking the samba-server task) would be good to have in the next candidate.14:24
cjwatsonplanning to14:29
cjwatsonwould prefer somebody more domain-competent to review samba, though14:29
* ScottK is fixing quediff to work with .bz2 orig 14:35
ScottKDone, so it can be used by whoever has the domain-competence to review it.14:37
james_wany thoughts on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xpdf/+bug/556483?16:02
ubottuUbuntu bug 556483 in xpdf "Merge xpdf 3.02-2 from Debian Unstable" [Wishlist,New]16:02
james_wno new features, but rewritten packaging, would that require an exception?16:02
ScottKjames_w: Generally yes.16:05
Riddellev: thanks for fixing bug 55618016:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 556180 in ubiquity "Buttons on ubiquity partition page doesn't work" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55618016:49
evsure thing16:49
Riddellev: planning a ubiquity upload at some point?16:59
evRiddell: yeah.  I was hoping to get Ken's timezone map changes in, but as those will require an exception, I might as well do an upload now so that your fixes don't block on that.17:00
Riddellev: changing the SVG requires a UI freeze exception?17:01
evI had assumed so17:01
Riddelldoesn't seem like a big enough change to need that, I doubt we have many screenshots of the map with India or Pakistan selected17:02
evRussia as well, but noted17:03
RiddellRussia claims Kashmir?17:03
cjwatsonsome of Russia's timezones changed a bit recently17:03
cjwatsonI agree, I think it's worth notifying the doc team but I don't think it needs freeze paperwork really17:04
evokay cool, I'll take care of this first then17:04
ScottKBug #556629 is potentially significant.17:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 556629 in update-manager "Upgrade fails due to no video driver - Intel removed during upgrade" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55662917:10
evif anyone has some free cycles, I'd appreciate a review of bug 554570 and bug 55497617:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 554570 in ubiquity "Freeze exception request: only show update installer link when an update is available." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55457017:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 554976 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu "UI freeze exception request: adjusting icons and CSS style" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55497617:27
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evRiddell: ubiquity 2.2.15 is in the queue17:45
Riddellev: accepted!17:51
mvohttp://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/ looks not that great currently (but server-tasks and lts-ubuntu should really only be WARN and not FAIL, the bugs are not that serious)18:21
GrueMasterRiddell: Does this mean there will be a respin for Ubiquity 2.2.15?18:25
RiddellGrueMaster: for Kubuntu yes, probably the rest too if we want to keep the Kashmir lobby happy18:25
GrueMastersigh.  I'm doing the ubuntu-armel testing.  Takes a lot longer than desktop or netbook due to limited resources.18:26
GrueMasterAnd I hate having to recompile my bug lists.18:27
Riddellsuch is the world of ISO testing, slow and painful18:32
Riddellsurely launchpad can handle bug lists18:32
ttxslangasek: please review the samba (winbind) fix whenever you have the time, and respin server ISo / refresh beta2 server candidate when it lands18:33
ttxslangasek: ping smoser when done so that he can generate EC2 cloud image candidates18:34
Riddellttx: not sure if slangasek is around just now, maybe another release team member should help?18:35
ttxRiddell: iirc most of them declined to review the samba as not being in their domain, but yes, anyone can help :)18:36
Riddellttx: I accepted samba18:40
ttxRiddell: ok, so when it lands, we could use a server ISo respin/ candidate refresh, the sooner the better18:41
Riddelldisabled current images in tracker18:41
Riddellev: we want new ubuntu desktop images I take it?  I should disable those in tracker too?18:42
slangasekttx, Riddell: samba> thanks19:06
slangasekScottK: libannodex> yes, was going to file that bug myself prior to removal19:07
* cjwatson writes an interactive version of packageset-push in the hope that that will enable him to keep up with packageset changes a bit more effectively19:25
charlie-tcaAre you going to respin xubuntu?19:47
charlie-tca7q83+TKbzFN19:47
slangasekthe ubiquity changes would also apply to xubuntu, but I wouldn't think it's critical19:50
charlie-tcaokay19:51
cjwatsoncharlie-tca: might want to change that password :)19:51
charlie-tcayeah, good thing it is for testing, huh19:51
slangasekso bug #519541 keeps getting reported as a serious bug in all the xubuntu tests, but it has no assignee?19:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 519541 in abiword "Abiword 2.8.1 freezes with document lost when help is clicked or F1 is pressed" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51954119:53
charlie-tcayup19:54
charlie-tcaIt completely freezes abiword, the Xubuntu default word processor. If the document is not already saved, it is lost19:54
slangasekyes, I understand it's a serious bug, that's not the question - the question is why no xubuntu dev has taken responsibility for it19:55
charlie-tcaI don't know. I keep telling them about it, too.19:56
slangasekRiddell: what did kubuntu alternate need respun for?20:15
Riddellslangasek: I don't think it did, did I mark that in iso tracker?20:15
Riddellfixed20:16
slangasekok, cheers20:16
slangasekI'm going to start the respins now20:16
slangasekassuming I'm not colliding with you :)20:16
Riddellgo ahead20:16
Riddellalthough `ls cdimage/ftp/pool/main/u/ubiquity/*2.2.15*` is empty on antimony, I take it that's not what counts?20:17
slangasekGrueMaster: I don't think I'll respin armel netbook for the ubiquity change; I don't imagine there are a lot of ARM hardware vendors is Kashmir that are going to come after us for an inaccurate beta map20:18
GrueMastercool20:18
slangasekRiddell: nope, antimony's mirror is updated /by/ the ISO job20:18
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slangasekev, cjwatson: any other installer issues on the horizon that look like they could be beta blockers?21:37
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slangasekall respins done/posted except for DVD22:05
cjwatsonslangasek: not that I've seen so far, but I've been feeling ill this evening so am not as on top of bugs as I'd like :-/22:10
slangasekunderstood22:12
slangasekaside from the last kubuntu issues, the ISO tracker looks (deceptively?) calm22:12
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keesScottK: are you around to push selinux and refpolicy-ubuntu for me?22:59
* kees thanks mystery pusher23:08
mdeslaurlol23:15
slangaseklamont, elmo: old-releases.u.c requires a manual push, is that right?23:18
slangasek(I've dropped intrepid from releases.u.c, but I don't see it showing up on old-releases)23:18

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