[03:08] <akgraner> pleia2, I added the pages that were created over the last week to the all pages wiki - you can do your thing with them :-)  Thanks!
[03:08] <pleia2> akgraner: thanks :)
[03:14] <akgraner> It's only 3 or pages that need the symbols added not too many :-)
[03:14] <akgraner> or for even
[03:14] <akgraner> :-)
[03:14] <akgraner> 4
[03:14] <akgraner> dang it
[03:15]  * akgraner gives up  - typing fail :-(
[03:16] <pleia2> :)
[03:16] <pleia2> so, I never did get a copy of ubuntu user
[03:16] <pleia2> got tired of waiting so I bought one ;)
[03:16] <pleia2> great article
[03:20]  * elky replies to mdke's email
[03:20] <pleia2> thanks elky
[03:20] <elky> I'm not sure he's quite understanding what we're trying to achieve with the licence and waiver, so hopefully this will clear things up
[03:23] <pleia2> good email :)
[03:24] <elky> Thanks :)
[07:26] <MarkDude> http://www.google.com/search?q=CPE000d88c30c46-CM00407b862c36&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a    <<<
[07:28] <MarkDude> gentoo - just being paranoid :)
[07:39] <MarkDude> Is marcho  known deal?
[07:40] <maco> no idea
[07:40] <MarkDude> His mask produces some interesting results in Google
[07:42] <MarkDude> I will let the experts deal with it. Sigh.
[07:44] <valorie> I'm pretty sure marcho and glenn beck are a team
[07:45] <valorie> he's enjoying the drama
[07:45] <valorie> and feeding info
[07:45] <MarkDude> I think so to - his mask is also in gentoo log
[07:45] <elky> They all came in together.
[07:45] <MarkDude> he is the 3rd of the group.
[07:46] <valorie> yup
[07:46] <valorie> such a fun lil troop
[07:46] <valorie> just like evil Brownies or something
[07:47] <maco> kicked off unfairly? riiiight
[07:49] <elky> the codeword being?
[07:49] <MarkDude> it's an old High School trick, 2 people cause a scene. the 3rd slips in & trys to be a part of the group
[07:49] <maco> elky: well im not gonna say it in the logged channel!
[07:50] <elky> maco, PM was invented for a reason.
[07:50] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:50] <rww> hi czajkowski
[07:50] <maco> elky: and now youve been pm'd
[07:51] <czajkowski> rww: morning
[07:59] <elky> I'm kinda wondering why we're getting these gentoo folk the past few days.
[08:03] <rww> elky: well, they wanted to come troll us when the channel opened, but it took them over four years to compile an IRC client.
[08:04] <pleia2> hahahah
[08:04] <pleia2> rww <3
[08:04] <MarkDude> lol
[08:05] <hypa7ia> o snap :)
[08:05] <MarkDude> Someone suggested that a group I am part of start teaching Gentoo also. I just kindof shook my head NO.
[08:05] <MarkDude> I hope they dont bring it up again
[08:05] <pleia2> gentoo isn't really something you teach
[08:05] <pleia2> it's used by people who want to get their hands dirty and really fine tune things
[08:06] <MarkDude> Gentoo needs to be taught
[08:06] <pleia2> if you need to be taught it, you shouldn't use it
[08:06] <MarkDude> Manners
[08:06] <pleia2> :)
[08:07] <MarkDude> Cool. pleia2 - I'll use your excuse if it is brought up gain
[08:07] <rww> I tried installing it as part of the "don't make fun of stuff you haven't tried" rule, but I gave up after two hours of trying to figure it out. I'm not sure whether this is due to Gentoo sucking or user incompetence :S
[08:07] <pleia2> I used gentoo for about 8 months back in 2003
[08:08] <pleia2> it had newer stuff than debian, which was neat, but I ended up going back to debian
[08:08] <pleia2> it broke every time I did an upgrade, I wasn't keen on hitting the forums every time I typed emerge
[08:09] <MarkDude> I really like Puppy Linux - but have always thought that they were slightly dysfunctional. They just annoy each other tho, not everyone else. Barry (the founder) ended up having to *lock down his site*
[08:09]  * rww pokes us in the direction of #ubuntu-women
[08:09] <pleia2> thanks rww ;)
[08:10] <MarkDude> marcho is still there-- icky
[08:10] <hypa7ia> MarkDude: ouch
[08:11] <hypa7ia> re puppy, that is
[08:12] <MarkDude> Its sad. They have a version that works with Ubuntu's repos- Karmic Puppy had a low footprint & worked on older hardware
[08:13] <MarkDude> Barry sounds like a real nice person also. Supposedly, he is leaving his project to leave the drama, and focusing on Woof
[08:13]  * elky clears throat.
[08:14]  * MarkDude moves to UW proper
[08:17] <czajkowski> propper ?
[08:17] <dholbach> good morning
[08:19] <MarkDude> czajkowski, - the proper channel to talk about stuff that is not Ubuntu Women related.
[08:20] <elky> also, mdke has responded
[14:15] <akgraner> hey do you all know about it's all text for firefox?
[14:15] <akgraner> it's awesome!
[14:15] <czajkowski> akgraner: morning
[14:16] <akgraner> you can work on wiki's and if your browser crashes you still have your page
[14:16] <akgraner> czajkowski, good morning
[14:16] <czajkowski> there is a susprise in the post on its way to you
[14:16] <czajkowski> akgraner: ^^
[14:16] <akgraner> czajkowski, oh?  me has to look now :-)
[14:17] <akgraner> and if you use emacs you can install the moinmin mode module and it has syntax highlighting so you can see before you save if you broke the wiki formating
[14:17] <akgraner> pretty cool stuffs
[14:17] <czajkowski> akgraner: tis ages away it just went int the post
[14:17] <czajkowski> akgraner: http://pix.ie/czajkowski/1605210/in/album/352090
[14:17] <akgraner> awww
[14:18] <czajkowski> bigcalm: aye my wee cousin
[14:18] <akgraner> czajkowski, oh post as in mail - DOH! I am such a geek I was thinking email :-/
[14:18] <czajkowski> akgraner: yer very special at times
[14:21] <akgraner> czajkowski, at times??
[14:21] <akgraner> I thought I was *all* the time :-D
[14:21] <czajkowski> I'm trying to be nice today
[14:22] <akgraner> czajkowski, that does not become you - I like bold/cheeky you...:-P
[14:24] <czajkowski> akgraner: did you not get enough of that on skype last nigh
[14:24] <czajkowski> *night!
[14:25] <akgraner> haha well ok you have a point
[14:26] <czajkowski> my poor father was wondering what I was on
[14:26] <czajkowski> and where was the accent coming from
[14:26] <akgraner> oops  - I was colorful too
[14:26] <akgraner> sorry
[14:27] <czajkowski> the man is used to me and lived in Ireland over 30 years
[14:27] <czajkowski> I'd say he's well used to colourful language
[14:28] <akgraner> I love the accents!
[15:19] <czajkowski> akgraner: you're the one who has the accent!
[15:26] <maco> akgraner: you're an emacs user now?
[15:26] <maco> :(
[15:27] <nigelbabu> maco, wrong smiley?
[15:27] <maco> nigelbabu: no, i'm a vim user :)
[15:27] <nigelbabu> maco, ah, that way.  (I'm vim user too)
[15:27] <nigelbabu> maco, I thought we should be glad she's turning into quite a hacker :D
[15:31] <akgraner> maco, I use gedit - but pete is helping me with emacs - not ready to go that route completely yet
[15:32] <Pendulum> a couple weeks ago I was at a pub watching rugby and had a very odd moment with a guy where he went "wow, you use Ubuntu? that's hardcore" and then went on to talk about how much he loved emacs, but has never managed to successfully install ubuntu and get it working
[15:33] <Pendulum> I kinda feel like if you can use emacs, you should be able to install Ubuntu successfully
[15:33] <maco> akgraner: type "vimtutor" and the computer will teach you to use vim. and then you'll have a nice little holy war in the house ;-)
[15:34] <maco> Pendulum: i know some people like that
[15:34] <akgraner> oh we already have that going on  - I don't need help there
[15:34] <akgraner> after 18 years of marriage we have plenty of topics for that
[15:34] <maco> one of the TAs was tasked with teaching us all emacs one day because the prof wanted us to be able to use a cli editor
[15:34] <maco> but most of the students have never installed linux. they were just using emacs inside cygwin
[15:34] <maco> or putty
[15:35] <Pendulum> akgraner: did you listen to the Shot of Jaq from last week about the editor war?
[15:35] <akgraner> Pendulum, no :-( I need to catch up
[15:35] <akgraner> I think Pete listened to it though - he mentioned something about it
[15:36] <Pendulum> akgraner: you only have to listen to the first 2 minutes or so
[15:36] <maco> (i erm...refused to learn. i know vim and thats command line, so good nuff for me. there was a shouting match in the class. the gui users (most of the class) saying that cli editors suck because pico is no more powerful than a gui one. the vim & emacs users agreeing that pico was *not* the thing to use if you want power, and then the vim and emacs users arguing over exactly *what* to use if you want power)
[15:38] <akgraner> maco, wow - now that sounds like a class with some great personalities
[16:12] <elky> Butterflies, of course.
[19:35] <akgraner> MarkDude, ping
[19:35] <akgraner> does Gidget Kitchen have a logo?
[19:35] <MarkDude> Yes.
[19:35] <akgraner> link? I must have just overlooked it
[19:36] <akgraner> the fosscon folks are going to add it to their site with link  - since we used your the pic from GK
[19:37] <MarkDude> http://gidgetkitchen.org/wiki/Art_and_Music_for_Open_Source
[19:37] <MarkDude> upper left of wiki
[19:37] <MarkDude> Im looking for larger res now.
[19:38] <akgraner> MarkDude, thanks :-)
[19:40] <MarkDude> Sure. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2424094/%24wgLogo.jpeg   <<<its missing the .org part tho. Im going to ask Sunshine if he has the other version. If not the other will work. We are mulling some new logos, it's holding up us getting cards.
[19:44] <akgraner> MarkDude, you want it linked to http://www.gidgetkitchen.org/
[19:45] <akgraner> right
[19:49] <MarkDude> Yep.
[19:49] <MarkDude> It still needs to be cleaned up, We finally got a better theme :)
[19:50]  * MarkDude just realized that redoing the GK site is at the top of the list now.
[20:38] <akgraner> MarkDude, glad I could help with your todo list :-)
[20:45] <Aiween> hi
[21:08]  * czajkowski just got confirmation she's being sponsored to attend UDS
[21:11] <Aiween> congratulations czajkowski
[21:11] <czajkowski> Aiween: cheers :)
[21:12] <MichelleQ> congrats, czajkowski
[21:12] <pleia2> czajkowski: hooray, see you there! :)
[21:12]  * czajkowski high fives pleia2 
[21:12] <pleia2> ^5
[21:14] <Pendulum> so there are at least 3 of us...
[21:15] <maco> Pendulum: you're going?
[21:15] <Pendulum> yes
[21:15] <maco> cool! have fun
[21:15] <pleia2> jcastro said they aren't done sending out emails, so people might still get them yet
[21:23] <czajkowski> pleia2: see pm
[22:11] <Aiween> bye everyone
[22:18]  * AlanBell is going to UDS :-)
[22:19] <pleia2> AlanBell: yay :)
[22:23] <Daviey> AlanBell: oh noes!
[23:51] <akgraner> AlanBell, UDS will not be same :-)
[23:52] <akgraner> pleia2, heard you were going too
[23:52] <akgraner> woo hoo!