[03:33] I just built a test box, and used grsync to load my home directory onto the box, but some files didn't make the trip, like .bashrc? I fixed it with gftp, but why did grsync miss it? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [03:55] gottto: I have questions [03:57] Well I think gottto has left I have a question for everyone I have a Windows Xp computer I want to install Xubuntu on a second drive in the windows computer is there a simplified way of doing this [03:59] ToStItOs: Have you formatted a linux drive yet? [04:00] ToStItOs: Have you formatted a linux drive yet? Tried an install? [04:01] not yet I still need to get the drive first I am just wondering if I should leave the windows drive connected or disconnected while I run the install [04:02] ToStItOs: Bingo, disconnect the Win drive, and have a few trial and errors with the linux drive, then tackle them together. [04:11] I just built a test box, and used grsync to load my home directory onto the box, but some files didn't make the trip, like .bashrc? I fixed it with gftp, but why did grsync miss it? [04:21] n2diy_ So disconnect the win box won't that make the windows drive being ignored during the install [04:24] another words after I install ubuntu and set up the boot sequence won't that make the Windows drive disappear? [04:25] ToStItOs: Just practice installing Ubuntu on the single Ubuntu drive, when you have confidence doing that, then try both drives together. [04:26] I know how install Ubuntu on a drive but just meshing them together is going to be interesting [04:27] But it may work out unplug one then installing the other then adding them together at least I hope it will [04:28] ToStItOs: Ok, I haven't tried that, yet, either. But, someday soon maybe? Right now I'm working on test box #2, so maybe this will be the victim? [04:29] I googled it for Jaunty and the person who wrote the article just made it sort of complicated [04:29] http://25yearsofprogramming.com/blog/2009/20091021.htm [04:33] ToStItOs: Fine business, that is why I would re-install Xubuntu, and let the partition manager deal with Grub. [04:34] ok I wonder if I should do a manual partition [04:35] ToStItOs: yes, yes, and yes. Practice on the single Xubuntu drive first! [04:36] ok so you think I should just do a normal install then try to install that drive as a slave [04:36] well I guess I'll need to play withit [04:36] ToStItOs: and practice making a seperate /home partition, you'll be happy in the long run if you do. [04:36] HDs can be finicky [04:37] ok I'll do that [04:37] and thats under the manual partition right? [04:38] ToStItOs: practice installing on the single drive, and then combine the two drives, and re-install Xubuntu, on the old Xubuntu drive, the partition manager, and grub will handle things from there. [04:39] ok I'll do that [04:39] So I will have to install Xubuntu again or just once? [04:40] Sorry for the confusion [04:46] Ok I get it now practice installing the drive with the manual partition then try both drives together ok sorry I am on the slow side [04:47] I getcha now [04:47] I just don't want to erase my windows drive [04:50] ToStItOs: yes, of course, unplug the Win drive, and practice on the Xubuntu drive, then try them together. [04:51] Ok I getcha now I will do that one more thing, when I do put them together which one should be the first to be bootable [04:51] Obviously I set the second drive as a slave right? [04:56] ToStItOs: Yes, setup master and slave, which order it is doesn't matter, as far as I know. [04:57] ok good deal I 'll mess with it and pray I don't erase my windows drive [04:58] ToStItOs: When you re-install Xubuntu, the manual partitioning will allow you to tell grub which drive and partion should hold the boot info. [04:59] that would be the secondary drive? [05:00] ToStItOs: Which ever drive you want to put it on, but I would put it on the Xubuntu drive, since it has a better chance of surviving an attack. [05:00] ok will do [05:01] ToStItOs: GL [05:01] Thanks my friend for your help appreciate that [05:01] ToStItOs: Nada [05:02] I must go to bed I have to work in the AM [05:02] thanks a lot [05:02] see you later [05:02] 73 [08:31] anybody here who can answer nitpicky technical questions? [08:31] always is [08:31] lol. ok. [08:32] should i just speak it in-channel? or do i need to private a specialist? [08:32] just here [08:33] ok. sorry, this is the first time i've had to do this - normally i figure things out on my own via trial and error. [08:33] i am using xubuntu 9.04 on an asus eeepc 1000 [08:34] i think it's 1000ha - the one that comes with XP installed. [08:34] under linux, my eeepc seems to have a problem with key repeating - often letters will type twice even though i am not holding them down [08:35] i have gone to settings > accessibility and used bounce keys, with the threshold set to minimum - which works [08:35] but after five or so minutes of inactivity, i get a message "bounce keys disabled" and the problem is back [08:35] is this a known issue? [08:47] ok that's cool. === nikolam__ is now known as nikolam [10:31] this morning I can only login to xterm but not my xfce session. Any way to repair that or at least check the error log as to what failed? [11:19] plouffe: ~/.xsessionerrors === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === gent_flossk is now known as ardian_flossk [17:20] Hi, [17:20] !hi [17:20] hi guys, i'm on karmic [17:20] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [17:21] I would use a sound theme for login screen and startup [17:22] okay [17:22] in jaunty I used to go in System->Login screen->Accessibility [17:22] and choose the sounds [17:23] in karmic Login window doesn't exist [17:23] How can I do to resolve this problem? [17:24] I don't think you can in karmic. Lucid will have the login screen again, and allow sounds to be turned on and off [17:25] We lost that in karmic (9.10) because of all the gdm changes [17:25] ok [17:25] charlie-tca, does that mean this version of gdm has integrated some of the features we lost? [17:25] what version? [17:25] thanks [17:25] You are welcome [17:25] Sorry, Lucid [17:26] sort of. It means the developers were able to put some of the features back [17:27] Looks like I will have to fire up Lucid once the RC drops.... [17:45] hi [19:09] hm, anyone have a suggestion when ubiquity crashes? [19:10] start it with debug-ubiquity as a boot parameter (you can edit boot parameters by pressing F6 then Escape at the CD boot menu [19:10] Then you can pull the logs and file the bug? [19:10] Or, from the live desktop: [19:10] please start the installer with 'ubiquity -d' from a terminal window, and reproduce this problem [19:11] Once you've done that, please attach /var/log/syslog, /var/log/partman, and /var/log/installer/debug to the bug report. It's important that you attach all those files. [19:11] Which image is crashing? [19:12] charlie-tca, thanks will do after memtest [19:12] 9.10-amd64-desktop [19:13] MIght need to use the alternate image for that version [19:13] what do you mean? [19:13] oh, right, the alternate image. but why? [19:13] There are two images for each version, desktop and alternate [19:14] I think that image had problems with a lot of systems [19:14] Oh boy, and it got never updated? [19:14] but thanks for the note [19:15] it won't after the release [19:15] ouch [19:15] so is it really worth my time then to create a bug report? [19:15] I don't mind if it's useful, but if it's a well known problem, then I'm not sure it is [19:15] I reported issues with hardy and they did not cut a new image, even when ubuntu got a new one [19:16] It might be useful to keep the issues out of lucid [19:16] k [19:17] The developers do check the existing bug reports to try to keep any old/regression issues out of the new release [19:33] Damn, I'm in dependency hell right now [19:33] can't install UCK [19:35] is there any way to install UCK? [19:36] what is it? [19:41] ubuntu customization kit [19:41] sounds like CLI to me :P [19:41] Not familiar with it, at all [19:42] because yesterday I crashed my previous xubuntu install...and I was very unhappy how Xubuntu comes out of the box (or the live cd ;-) [19:42] But I wouldn't mind getting the 64bit install to actually do something with hardware drivers, nvidia [19:42] It keeps shutting the monitor off [19:42] you mean livecd customization? [19:42] Sachse_siechtum: separate partition for /home [19:43] Sachse_siechtum: no, just a normal installation of lucid [19:43] then you only need to install programs [19:43] I see [19:44] well luzid is not officially out yet. Is it stable? [19:44] lucid [19:44] sort of stable [19:44] at least on the 386 [19:44] alright [19:44] I gonna wait til 28th ;-) [19:44] beta2 pre-release testing [19:45] many people say that ubuntu is stable two weeks after release.. [19:45] will I be able to get it over spm? [19:46] should [19:47] what I was just saying.....the only things Xubuntu can do out of the box is: screen pictures, play wave files, word proccessing, some simple games...and thats about it... [19:48] yeah, pretty much what is needed to use it [19:48] Sachse_siechtum, it's called a "base install" [19:48] ah I see [19:49] seems pretty sensible to me :) [19:49] thats why the liveCD just takes up a cd rom _:-) [19:49] It is enough for any beginner to get started with [19:50] well...I was enough for me...its just....well I gonna have to take a look into this customization thing... [19:50] afk eating spicy chinese soup [19:51] hey :P [19:51] Sachse_siechtum, what are you trying to achieve? I simply install the software I need after the install.... [19:51] I'm lazy ;-) [19:51] it's one line to apt [19:52] you can write .sh script :) [19:52] not familiar with that yet [19:52] that's easy actually [19:52] can i ask u something ? :) [19:52] is it something like a *.bat file? [19:52] el3ment: sure [19:53] in wine channel no one respond i cant run games audio with wine ? [19:53] any solution ? :) [19:53] Sachse_siechtum: bash(commnd line) script, so yes [19:53] just type in your question. If anyone knows, they will answer [19:53] what drivers did you choose? [19:53] alsa [19:53] el3ment, in prinicple, yes, but in practice it depends on the game. appdb.winehq.org is the place to look [19:53] intel_realtek [19:54] have you tested both emulation and full to hw-thing? [19:54] for example in max payne 2 alsa is just scramble [19:54] yes not sound [19:54] oss and esound work fine [19:54] ...on my machine [19:55] i have another strange problem when start mp3 player not hear anything but when im start video player then sound works on both [19:55] ;) [19:55] o_O [19:55] sounds like the video player is adjusting your mixer [19:56] how i can fix that ? [19:56] :) [19:56] while just running the mp3 player, go for example into alsa-mixer and make sure everything is turned up [19:57] yea i try this but not succes [19:57] everything is on and mp3 not work [19:57] then starting video player and sound work again :) [19:57] hmm, not sure then [19:58] my sound is intel realtek but im not sure what to chouse snd_intel or Snd_realtek :) [19:58] for codec [20:12] charlie-tca, uff, with ubiquity -d it did not crash, of course (before it crashed during two attempts, and once before I event started) [20:13] it is trying to start too much at once for the system, then. The "really fast startup" fails on the system [20:50] hello [20:51] hello [20:51] !hi | Arpad2 [20:51] ubottu, wake up [20:51] hi everybody!:) [20:51] how can I limit the incoming packets on wlan0? (my wlan adapter) [20:52] like limit the 365 kbyte/s line to 150 for example [20:53] Sachse_siechtum, that's a firewall's job... I know shorewall can do that, but it's not the easiest one to use [20:53] squisher, is it line based? [20:54] you mean commandline? Yes [20:54] i can not establish dsl connection with network manager only with sudo pppoe command, does anybody know how to solve this? === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [21:52] what was the command for compiz fusion to put into auto start? [21:52] to be put