[00:07] night all [00:44] highvoltage: jdstrand uploaded 2 of my qimo packages [01:03] mhall119: what's left? [01:03] qimo-games, whichI believe was uploaded previously, but has had some changes done to it since then [01:03] and whatever needs to happen now to get an FFe [11:03] morning all [11:04] morning :) [13:18] highvoltage: is there a meeting tonight? because the agenda still has last weeks time/date and content [13:29] bencrisford: eek, I thought I had updated the time, will do so now... [13:30] highvoltage: i can if you want [13:30] bencrisford: yep, feel free to go ahead! [13:30] i have a couple of things to add to the agenda also if thats ok [13:30] bencrisford: yep, it is [13:31] highvoltage: i can just get rid of last weeks agenda? or is it archived somewhere? [13:35] or does it stay there? or what? [13:37] i got rid of it, but if it is meant to be anywhere i have it saved locally [13:39] bencrisford: depends, some things we discuss every week, if we don't have to discuss it again you can take it off [13:47] highvoltage: ok, ill put back the website stuff and maybe the artwork ? [14:08] what team can upload to edubuntu-docs? [14:24] edubuntu-dev can do that [14:48] stgraber: ok [14:48] stgraber: are edubuntu hosting any openweek sessions? because id be happy to help out [14:49] i hosted a gaming session last year so i know how it works [15:02] I haven't answered Amber's mail yet, though it shound like a good idea [15:02] I'll reply that we'll, I've been doing the one last year [15:09] Morning all [15:17] bencrisford: sent a talk proposal [15:17] hey sbalneav [15:17] long time no see ;) [15:20] Back from holidays :) [15:20] stgraber: could you review my qimo- packages in revu? [15:23] sbalneav: so, is everything ready for the Edubuntu hackfest ? ;) [15:23] mhall119: would be great if you could find someone else, I have a press conference here in a few minutes and I have the whole asterisk stack to look at in revu :( [15:24] mhall119: did you try poking people in -motu ? [15:25] stgraber: I'll hit up highvoltage [15:25] jdstrand in -motu reviewed and uploaded qimo-session and qimo-wallpaper [15:25] but he suggested I get others to review them as well [15:26] mhall119: I thought you said all but -games have already been uploaded? [15:26] also, I'm not sure what else I need to do to get a FFe [15:26] mhall119: or did you mean just to revu? [15:26] highvoltage: I uploaded to revu, jdstrand is marked in revu as having uploaded them (to where, I don't know) [15:29] mhall119: ok, sounds like you'll just need that FFE then so that the archive admins can approve them [15:30] mhall119: if I understood correctly you did file exceptions for them? [15:30] I filed bugs for them [15:30] according to the wiki guide for FFe [15:30] is there a separate place to file an FFe? [15:30] ok great [15:31] did somebody say hackfest?! [15:32] highvoltage: bug 522720, 522729 and 522731 [15:32] Launchpad bug 522720 in qimo/2.0 "[needs-packaging] qimo-session" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522720 [15:32] Launchpad bug 522729 in qimo/2.0 "[needs-packaging] qimo-games" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522729 [15:32] Launchpad bug 522731 in qimo/2.0 "[needs-packaging] qimo-wallpaper" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522731 [19:30] the meetings in half an hour right? [19:31] * bencrisford is wondering if he has time for a snooze [19:31] yep, meeting in 30min [19:33] * bencrisford sets alarm clock [19:33] if im late you guys'll know why :P [19:57] * Edubuntu meeting in about 3 minutes [19:58] highvoltage: okey doke [19:58] * bencrisford couldnt sleep [20:00] bencrisford: heh, had coffee again? :) [20:00] highvoltage: lol, not a drop, all day :/ [20:00] and im really tired [20:00] Lns, mhall119], sbalneav, stgraber: just in case you missed it, we're starting in #ubuntu-meeting [20:00] and i shant be going to sleep tonight, going to germany at 1am [20:01] bencrisford: sounds like fun! [20:01] (unless you're driving being that tired) [20:01] nah, is my brass band [20:01] were playing some concerts in the rhineland [20:01] we got a coach and everything :D [20:03] * stgraber waves [20:03] * bencrisford waves back at stgraber in the wrong channel [20:33] hey mgariepy :) [20:34] * bencrisford will be back in 25 minutes [20:35] hey [20:36] So has anyone given any thoughts to the new panel applets in lucid? as in, ubuntu one, all the im/email/individual stuff that schools probably don't need? [20:37] See? we could upload a package that hides those panels, and any team that wants to, they could include it in their metapackages... :D [20:37] *applets [20:37] sorry for not being around much at this meting [20:37] was caught in a few internal meetings :( [20:37] stgraber, hehe, stupid work =p [20:37] alkisg, that would be cool [20:42] I think it might be a good idea to look at some projects debian edu is doing - check this out, I never even seen this before.. http://wiki.debian.org/CipUX [20:42] stgraber: np, we kept it short [20:43] sbalneav, ^^^ [20:53] i guess i missed the meeting too hehe, i only catched the line when highvoltage said "ok that's it for this meeting then, thanks everyone" [21:08] mgariepy: heh, we basically had a quick summary of where we are technically (will post to the list) and a discussion on how to get more contributors and how to make edubuntu more interesting for contributors [21:11] and a little bit of discussing the advocacy team and how marketing materials coule be effectively shared and distributed [21:15] bencrisford: are you going to create that branch? [21:15] it would be easier if it was created by the advocacy team though right? because then members could upload to it [21:15] bencrisford: yep, you're a member of it right? [21:16] highvoltage: yeah but i thought only admins could make branches for teams? [21:16] admins of said team i mean [21:17] bencrisford: I guess we'll have to make you an admin then [21:18] highvoltage: is that easy to do? [21:18] bencrisford: yep, it's done [21:18] wow, i never knew you could do stuff like that so quickly on lp [21:19] bencrisford: ~edubuntu-council has to be admin in all of our teams, but it doesn't have to be the only one [21:19] highvoltage: im pretty sure ive seen a couple of teams where edubuntu council isnt admin [21:19] and i thought it looked a bit dodgy [21:19] bencrisford: for some of the sub-teams that doesn't affect packages or other code we can make quick changes without having to vote or anything formal like that [21:19] bencrisford: then it's not an official edubuntu team :) [21:19] (or a bug) [21:20] * bencrisford points to https://edge.launchpad.net/~edubuntu-doc [21:20] highvoltage: ^ [21:20] eek, that one is still owned by Will van der Leij [21:20] yep [21:21] some recent membership applications and an apparently inactive admin [21:21] bencrisford: yes that would be a bug then :) [21:21] highvoltage: i think i might have seen one owned by pygi at some point as well [21:21] im not sure though [21:22] maybe not... [21:22] there must be some reason why i thought that, but im not sure what it is [21:23] highvoltage: shall i register that branch then? [21:24] bencrisford: yep, it's your baby :) [21:24] woo :) a hosted branch right? [21:24] this is the first time ive registered one i think [21:26] highvoltage: ok, i think its all done :) [21:27] shall i do a readme file in there somewhere explaining it? [21:28] bencrisford: yep, lots, I think the LP help links to it [21:29] ok, ill check it out, thanks :) [21:32] * bencrisford 's bzr doesnt want to find the edubuntu-advocacy branch :/ [21:38] ohh [21:38] * bencrisford needs to push it ? [21:45] highvoltage: http://pastebin.com/iAqLUrst - is that ok for a readme file [21:46] i didnt want canonical to be sued by some graphic designer :P [21:48] bencrisford: yep [21:48] ok [21:48] ill add some of the official logo files and then push it [21:48] bencrisford: I guess ideally we'd want material under a free license, more than just being redistributable, but redistributable ate least keeps it legal [21:49] highvoltage: i think if we just work on keeping it legal for now [21:50] because at the moment it will just be our little edubuntu "crew" contributing anyway, and thats if any of us get the time [21:50] once we get a more active team [21:50] then we can work on more complex licensing [21:51] is that ok with you? because if its not then i dont mind looking in to free licensing ideas.. [21:54] i guess i could have a word with the #ubuntu-marketing folks about it [22:28] arguably using 'non-free' works makes licencing more complex :) [22:29] Kamping_Kaiser: i dont like thinking that far ahead :S [22:29] it confuses me [22:29] for now, distribution rights keep it legal [22:29] but i am asking some docs and marketing people about licenses [22:29] i wont push the branch until its sorted [22:30] hey :) [22:30] licencing confuses everyone :( [22:31] * Kamping_Kaiser -> work. 'later [22:34] later Kamping_Kaiser :) [23:21] highvoltage: mdke recommended a cc-by-sa license [23:21] should i put that? or leave it as re-distributable [23:25] bencrisford: we can reccomend that license, it's a good free license, but I wouldn't explicitely want to exclude content released under other free licenses [23:25] highvoltage: ok, ill mention it in the readme [23:26] what i could ask is that materials are uploaded in their own folder with a .txt file explaining the licenses etc [23:26] maybe [23:32] or ask for details in the commit message [23:32] that would make more sense perhaps [23:36] highvoltage: im gonna snooze for a bit [23:36] i think the branch is set up and pushed properly :) [23:36] bencrisford: not a bad idea! I might join you... erm... so to speak [23:36] hehe [23:36] were leaving for germany in 1hr and 25 minutes [23:36] and im already tired [23:37] if i dont sleep now i wont until tommorrow night :S [23:38] how long will you be there? [23:38] 4 days..? [23:38] ok cool. [23:39] ill be back monday i think [23:39] even if im just in bed all day [23:39] if the hotel has wifi then i can be on irc on my nokia [23:39] but im not gonna pay the extortionate european internet rates on my phone [23:39] ah you're not taking along a notebook? [23:39] ouch. [23:39] nah, i figured it wouldnt be worth the hassle.. [23:40] and if it got stolen [23:40] then that wouldnt be good :/ [23:40] that's one thing at least about South Africa, mobile internet is cheap and plentiful :) [23:40] :) [23:40] i pay 15 pounds a month for unlimited internet on my nokia e63 [23:40] i get unlimited texts and 75 minutes too [23:40] which is good [23:40] not bad. [23:40] but in europe i dont think my contract works :/ [23:41] on MTN here, you pay around £0.01/MB [23:41] wow [23:41] I guess lots of international people will be using that when they visit for the soccer world cup later this year :) [23:42] PAYG mobile internet is expensive here [23:42] oh yeah, world cup [23:42] football isnt really my thing [23:42] yeah that's on MTN Pay as you go :) [23:42] yeah I'm not into it either, but there's lots of hype atm so it's hard to miss [23:42] footballs alright [23:42] for the first 10 minutes [23:43] then it gets boring [23:43] rugby's good [23:44] but i like to have my laptop around when im watching [23:45] yeah people are rugby crazy here too [23:45] its the springboks right? [23:45] i didnt know what one was until i went to namibia [23:50] bencrisford: yep [23:51] highvoltage: anyway ill be saying goodnight and goodbye to my lappy any minute, so i might as well say farewell now [23:51] ill try and check in on irc if i can [23:52] bencrisford: yep, keep well hope you don't get ripped off too much on internet charges! [23:52] if not i should be around next week, during which i can hopefully work on some marketing material and market the marketing team :) [23:52] i think ill stick to wifi as soon as im on european soil [23:52] cool, have fun! [23:52] and goodnight [23:53] ogra: whats the wifi like in germany? [23:54] obviously i dont expect you to know every hotspot, but some countries have more coverage than others [23:54] :) [23:55] highvoltage: i should stop being such a geek and enjoy the time i have without internet :) [23:55] farewell everyone :)