[00:07] <bencrisford> night all
[00:44] <mhall119> highvoltage: jdstrand uploaded 2 of my qimo packages
[01:03] <highvoltage> mhall119: what's left?
[01:03] <mhall119> qimo-games, whichI believe was uploaded previously, but has had some changes done to it since then
[01:03] <mhall119> and whatever needs to happen now to get an FFe
[11:03] <bencrisford> morning all
[11:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> morning :)
[13:18] <bencrisford> highvoltage: is there a meeting tonight?  because the agenda still has last weeks time/date and content
[13:29] <highvoltage> bencrisford: eek, I thought I had updated the time, will do so now...
[13:30] <bencrisford> highvoltage: i can if you want
[13:30] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep, feel free to go ahead!
[13:30] <bencrisford> i have a couple of things to add to the agenda also if thats ok
[13:30] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep, it is
[13:31] <bencrisford> highvoltage: i can just get rid of last weeks agenda?  or is it archived somewhere?
[13:35] <bencrisford> or does it stay there?  or what?
[13:37] <bencrisford> i got rid of it, but if it is meant to be anywhere i have it saved locally
[13:39] <highvoltage> bencrisford: depends, some things we discuss every week, if we don't have to discuss it again you can take it off
[13:47] <bencrisford> highvoltage: ok, ill put back the website stuff and maybe the artwork ?
[14:08] <bencrisford> what team can upload to edubuntu-docs?
[14:24] <stgraber> edubuntu-dev can do that
[14:48] <bencrisford> stgraber: ok
[14:48] <bencrisford> stgraber: are edubuntu hosting any openweek sessions?  because id be happy to help out
[14:49] <bencrisford> i hosted a gaming session last year so i know how it works
[15:02] <stgraber> I haven't answered Amber's mail yet, though it shound like a good idea
[15:02] <stgraber> I'll reply that we'll, I've been doing the one last year
[15:09] <sbalneav> Morning all
[15:17] <stgraber> bencrisford: sent a talk proposal
[15:17] <stgraber> hey sbalneav
[15:17] <stgraber> long time no see ;)
[15:20] <sbalneav> Back from holidays :)
[15:20] <mhall119> stgraber: could you review my qimo- packages in revu?
[15:23] <stgraber> sbalneav: so, is everything ready for the Edubuntu hackfest ? ;)
[15:23] <stgraber> mhall119: would be great if you could find someone else, I have a press conference here in a few minutes and I have the whole asterisk stack to look at in revu :(
[15:24] <stgraber> mhall119: did you try poking people in -motu ?
[15:25] <mhall119> stgraber: I'll hit up highvoltage
[15:25] <mhall119> jdstrand in -motu reviewed and uploaded qimo-session and qimo-wallpaper
[15:25] <mhall119> but he suggested I get others to review them as well
[15:26] <highvoltage> mhall119: I thought you said all but -games have already been uploaded?
[15:26] <mhall119> also, I'm not sure what else I need to do to get a FFe
[15:26] <highvoltage> mhall119: or did you mean just to revu?
[15:26] <mhall119> highvoltage: I uploaded to revu, jdstrand is marked in revu as having uploaded them (to where, I don't know)
[15:29] <highvoltage> mhall119: ok, sounds like you'll just need that FFE then so that the archive admins can approve them
[15:30] <highvoltage> mhall119: if I understood correctly you did file exceptions for them?
[15:30] <mhall119> I filed bugs for them
[15:30] <mhall119> according to the wiki guide for FFe
[15:30] <mhall119> is there a separate place to file an FFe?
[15:30] <highvoltage> ok great
[15:31] <bencrisford> did somebody say hackfest?!
[15:32] <mhall119> highvoltage: bug 522720, 522729 and 522731
[19:30] <bencrisford> the meetings in half an hour right?
[19:31]  * bencrisford is wondering if he has time for a snooze
[19:31] <stgraber> yep, meeting in 30min
[19:33]  * bencrisford sets alarm clock
[19:33] <bencrisford> if im late you guys'll know why :P
[19:57] <highvoltage>  * Edubuntu meeting in about 3 minutes
[19:58] <bencrisford> highvoltage: okey doke
[19:58]  * bencrisford couldnt sleep
[20:00] <highvoltage> bencrisford: heh, had coffee again? :)
[20:00] <bencrisford> highvoltage: lol, not a drop, all day :/
[20:00] <bencrisford> and im really tired
[20:00] <highvoltage> Lns, mhall119], sbalneav, stgraber: just in case you missed it, we're starting in #ubuntu-meeting
[20:00] <bencrisford> and i shant be going to sleep tonight, going to germany at 1am
[20:01] <highvoltage> bencrisford: sounds like fun!
[20:01] <highvoltage> (unless you're driving being that tired)
[20:01] <bencrisford> nah, is my brass band
[20:01] <bencrisford> were playing some concerts in the rhineland
[20:01] <bencrisford> we got a coach and everything :D
[20:03]  * stgraber waves
[20:03]  * bencrisford waves back at stgraber in the wrong channel
[20:33] <highvoltage> hey mgariepy :)
[20:34]  * bencrisford will be back in 25 minutes
[20:35] <mgariepy> hey
[20:36] <Lns> So has anyone given any thoughts to the new panel applets in lucid? as in, ubuntu one, all the im/email/individual stuff that schools probably don't need?
[20:37] <alkisg> See? we could upload a package that hides those panels, and any team that wants to, they could include it in their metapackages... :D
[20:37] <alkisg> *applets
[20:37] <stgraber> sorry for not being around much at this meting
[20:37] <stgraber> was caught in a few internal meetings :(
[20:37] <Lns> stgraber, hehe, stupid work =p
[20:37] <Lns> alkisg, that would be cool
[20:42] <Lns> I think it might be a good idea to look at some projects debian edu is doing - check this out, I never even seen this before.. http://wiki.debian.org/CipUX
[20:42] <highvoltage> stgraber: np, we kept it short
[20:43] <Lns> sbalneav, ^^^
[20:53] <mgariepy> i guess i missed the meeting too hehe, i only catched the line when highvoltage said "ok that's it for this meeting then, thanks everyone"
[21:08] <highvoltage> mgariepy: heh, we basically had a quick summary of where we are technically (will post to the list) and a discussion on how to get more contributors and how to make edubuntu more interesting for contributors
[21:11] <bencrisford> and a little bit of discussing the advocacy team and how marketing materials coule be effectively shared and distributed
[21:15] <highvoltage> bencrisford: are you going to create that branch?
[21:15] <bencrisford> it would be easier if it was created by the advocacy team though right?  because then members could upload to it
[21:15] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep, you're a member of it right?
[21:16] <bencrisford> highvoltage: yeah but i thought only admins could make branches for teams?
[21:16] <bencrisford> admins of said team i mean
[21:17] <highvoltage> bencrisford: I guess we'll have to make you an admin then
[21:18] <bencrisford> highvoltage: is that easy to do?
[21:18] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep, it's done
[21:18] <bencrisford> wow, i never knew you could do stuff like that so quickly on lp
[21:19] <highvoltage> bencrisford: ~edubuntu-council has to be admin in all of our teams, but it doesn't have to be the only one
[21:19] <bencrisford> highvoltage: im pretty sure ive seen a couple of teams where edubuntu council isnt admin
[21:19] <bencrisford> and i thought it looked a bit dodgy
[21:19] <highvoltage> bencrisford: for some of the sub-teams that doesn't affect packages or other code we can make quick changes without having to vote or anything formal like that
[21:19] <highvoltage> bencrisford: then it's not an official edubuntu team :)
[21:19] <highvoltage> (or a bug)
[21:20]  * bencrisford points to https://edge.launchpad.net/~edubuntu-doc
[21:20] <bencrisford> highvoltage: ^
[21:20] <highvoltage> eek, that one is still owned by Will van der Leij
[21:20] <bencrisford> yep
[21:21] <bencrisford> some recent membership applications and an apparently inactive admin
[21:21] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yes that would be a bug then :)
[21:21] <bencrisford> highvoltage: i think i might have seen one owned by pygi at some point as well
[21:21] <bencrisford> im not sure though
[21:22] <bencrisford> maybe not...
[21:22] <bencrisford> there must be some reason why i thought that, but im not sure what it is
[21:23] <bencrisford> highvoltage: shall i register that branch then?
[21:24] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep, it's your baby :)
[21:24] <bencrisford> woo :) a hosted branch right?
[21:24] <bencrisford> this is the first time ive registered one i think
[21:26] <bencrisford> highvoltage: ok, i think its all done :)
[21:27] <bencrisford> shall i do a readme file in there somewhere explaining it?
[21:28] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep, lots, I think the LP help links to it
[21:29] <bencrisford> ok, ill check it out, thanks :)
[21:32]  * bencrisford 's bzr doesnt want to find the edubuntu-advocacy branch :/
[21:38] <bencrisford> ohh
[21:38]  * bencrisford needs to push it ?
[21:45] <bencrisford> highvoltage: http://pastebin.com/iAqLUrst - is that ok for a readme file
[21:46] <bencrisford> i didnt want canonical to be sued by some graphic designer :P
[21:48] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep
[21:48] <bencrisford> ok
[21:48] <bencrisford> ill add some of the official logo files and then push it
[21:48] <highvoltage> bencrisford: I guess ideally we'd want material under a free license, more than just being redistributable, but redistributable ate least keeps it legal
[21:49] <bencrisford> highvoltage: i think if we just work on keeping it legal for now
[21:50] <bencrisford> because at the moment it will just be our little edubuntu "crew" contributing anyway, and thats if any of us get the time
[21:50] <bencrisford> once we get a more active team
[21:50] <bencrisford> then we can work on more complex licensing
[21:51] <bencrisford> is that ok with you?  because if its not then i dont mind looking in to free licensing ideas..
[21:54] <bencrisford> i guess i could have a word with the #ubuntu-marketing folks about it
[22:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> arguably using 'non-free' works makes licencing more complex :)
[22:29] <bencrisford> Kamping_Kaiser: i dont like thinking that far ahead :S
[22:29] <bencrisford> it confuses me
[22:29] <bencrisford> for now, distribution rights keep it legal
[22:29] <bencrisford> but i am asking some docs and marketing people about licenses
[22:29] <bencrisford> i wont push the branch until its sorted
[22:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey :)
[22:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> licencing confuses everyone :(
[22:31]  * Kamping_Kaiser -> work. 'later
[22:34] <bencrisford> later Kamping_Kaiser :)
[23:21] <bencrisford> highvoltage: mdke recommended a cc-by-sa license
[23:21] <bencrisford> should i put that?  or leave it as re-distributable
[23:25] <highvoltage> bencrisford: we can reccomend that license, it's a good free license, but I wouldn't explicitely want to exclude content released under other free licenses
[23:25] <bencrisford> highvoltage: ok, ill mention it in the readme
[23:26] <bencrisford> what i could ask is that materials are uploaded in their own folder with a .txt file explaining the licenses etc
[23:26] <bencrisford> maybe
[23:32] <bencrisford> or ask for details in the commit message
[23:32] <bencrisford> that would make more sense perhaps
[23:36] <bencrisford> highvoltage: im gonna snooze for a bit
[23:36] <bencrisford> i think the branch is set up and pushed properly :)
[23:36] <highvoltage> bencrisford: not a bad idea! I might join you... erm... so to speak
[23:36] <bencrisford> hehe
[23:36] <bencrisford> were leaving for germany in 1hr and 25 minutes
[23:36] <bencrisford> and im already tired
[23:37] <bencrisford> if i dont sleep now i wont until tommorrow night :S
[23:38] <highvoltage> how long will you be there?
[23:38] <bencrisford> 4 days..?
[23:38] <highvoltage> ok cool.
[23:39] <bencrisford> ill be back monday i think
[23:39] <bencrisford> even if im just in bed all day
[23:39] <bencrisford> if the hotel has wifi then i can be on irc on my nokia
[23:39] <bencrisford> but im not gonna pay the extortionate european internet rates on my phone
[23:39] <highvoltage> ah you're not taking along a notebook?
[23:39] <highvoltage> ouch.
[23:39] <bencrisford> nah, i figured it wouldnt be worth the hassle..
[23:40] <bencrisford> and if it got stolen
[23:40] <bencrisford> then that wouldnt be good :/
[23:40] <highvoltage> that's one thing at least about South Africa, mobile internet is cheap and plentiful :)
[23:40] <bencrisford> :)
[23:40] <bencrisford> i pay 15 pounds a month for unlimited internet on my nokia e63
[23:40] <bencrisford> i get unlimited texts and 75 minutes too
[23:40] <bencrisford> which is good
[23:40] <highvoltage> not bad.
[23:40] <bencrisford> but in europe i dont think my contract works :/
[23:41] <highvoltage> on MTN here, you pay around £0.01/MB
[23:41] <bencrisford> wow
[23:41] <highvoltage> I guess lots of international people will be using that when they visit for the soccer world cup later this year :)
[23:42] <bencrisford> PAYG mobile internet is expensive here
[23:42] <bencrisford> oh yeah, world cup
[23:42] <bencrisford> football isnt really my thing
[23:42] <highvoltage> yeah that's on MTN Pay as you go :)
[23:42] <highvoltage> yeah I'm not into it either, but there's lots of hype atm so it's hard to miss
[23:42] <bencrisford> footballs alright
[23:42] <bencrisford> for the first 10 minutes
[23:43] <bencrisford> then it gets boring
[23:43] <bencrisford> rugby's good
[23:44] <bencrisford> but i like to have my laptop around when im watching
[23:45] <highvoltage> yeah people are rugby crazy here too
[23:45] <bencrisford> its the springboks right?
[23:45] <bencrisford> i didnt know what one was until i went to namibia
[23:50] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep
[23:51] <bencrisford> highvoltage: anyway ill be saying goodnight and goodbye to my lappy any minute, so i might as well say farewell now
[23:51] <bencrisford> ill try and check in on irc if i can
[23:52] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep, keep well hope you don't get ripped off too much on internet charges!
[23:52] <bencrisford> if not i should be around next week, during which i can hopefully work on some marketing material and market the marketing team :)
[23:52] <bencrisford> i think ill stick to wifi as soon as im on european soil
[23:52] <highvoltage> cool, have fun!
[23:52] <highvoltage> and goodnight
[23:53] <bencrisford> ogra: whats the wifi like in germany?
[23:54] <bencrisford> obviously i dont expect you to know every hotspot, but some countries have more coverage than others
[23:54] <bencrisford> :)
[23:55] <bencrisford> highvoltage: i should stop being such a geek and enjoy the time i have without internet :)
[23:55] <bencrisford> farewell everyone :)