[00:00] <yofel> benkay86: most framebuffer modules are blacklisted by default, I'm surprised yours isn't
[00:00] <DanaG> Must be the new gwibber stuff using the keyring.
[00:01] <yofel> benkay86: and don't forget to update the bug description with what you know now
[00:01] <benkay86> yofel: Hah! No, it's missing from blacklist-framebuffer.conf.
[00:01] <yofel> yep
[00:01] <ninjai> arrrr how come you cant use the RIGHT control and alt to switch screens anymore!?!?
[00:02] <benkay86> yofel: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf is owned by module-init-tools, so I think I'll reassign to that package.
[00:02] <LinuxGuy2009> ninjai: you mean CTRL+ALT+-> ?
[00:02] <benkay86> yofel: But first I'm going to put plymouth back (can't leave apt in a broken state forever) and make sure that doesn't break things again.
[00:03] <yofel> oh yes... already forgot we did that... :S
[00:03] <ninjai> linuxguy2009: yes, if i use the right side control and alt it wont work, but it works wit hthe control and alt on the left side of my keyboard
[00:03] <LinuxGuy2009> ninjai: I just tried the right side and it worked just fine
[00:04] <LinuxGuy2009> compiz running
[00:04] <odinsbane> Does anybody here know why the pkgs in the kernel-ppa don't have the linux-headers xxx generic if they are a distro specific package?
[00:04] <ninjai> linuxguy2009: wth? it does nothing for me :(.  I chose US standard keyboard..
[00:05] <matmatmat> wireshark doesnt list any network interfaces, what can i do about that?
[00:05] <LinuxGuy2009> ninjai: compiz running on yours?
[00:05] <ninjai> linuxguy2009: yes
[00:06] <DanaG> dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 (used by debian/xserver-xephyr/usr/bin/Xephyr).
[00:06] <DanaG> trying to build an xorg-edgers xorg with backclear patch.
[00:06] <DanaG> Stupid Xorg.. why the frack do you need to READ video memory to create a new window?
[00:14] <mpontillo> matmatmat: you likely want to press alt-f2, then type "gksu wireshark"
[00:15] <mpontillo> ninjai: I'd go to "System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts", slect "Switch to workspace on the right of the current workspace", then try redefining the shortcut. See what it reports... right ctrl/alt work for me
[00:17] <ninjai> mpontillo: .... uh... when i try using my right control alt it says "Ctrl + ISO Level3 Shift"
[00:18] <matmatmat> yeah mpontillo, figured that out myself already :)
[00:20] <matmatmat> its a little weird. windows machine, same network cable, rtp streams with vlc work, but the ubuntu computer doesnt do a thing
[00:21] <mpontillo> ninjai: Cool. =) So it's a keyboard layout issue. Not sure what to do next though, other than verify everything in System > Preferences > Keyboard > Layouts. I notice that some non-US keyboard layouts say "ISO-something" on the right alt key.
[00:21] <matmatmat> on the other hand, when i run the stream on the windows machine, wiresharks sees that traffic on the ubuntu machine
[00:22] <ninjai> mpontillo: what is the regular layout? currently mine is set to "generic 105-key (intl)
[00:23] <DanaG> I usually use US International (AltGr Deadkeys).
[00:23] <DanaG> Lets me use right-alt to enable deadkeys, to get things like: Öö
[00:23] <mpontillo> ninjai: that's what mine is set to for "keyboard model", and in the multi-select box up top there is a single "USA" entry selected, which I think is the important part
[00:23] <DanaG> Model should be "evdev managed keyboard"
[00:24] <ninjai> mpontillo: mine is the same :(
[00:25] <ninjai> Danag: If I go to add a new keyboard layout no matter what I change it to, it always has the function keys (control, alt, etc) greyed out.... it remains the same no matter waht i choose!
[00:26] <markl_> anyone here using an apple xserve?
[00:27] <alazyworkaholic> Skype (static) doesn't pick up input from my microphone. Sounds - Input also doesn't register any sound in. However, Sound & Video - Sound Recorder works without any trouble. Any idea what the problem may be?
[00:29] <mpontillo> ninjai: odd, heh - changing the layout settings broke the right-alt+right-ctrl desktop switching for me.
[00:36] <benkay86> yofel: Miss me?
[00:37] <benkay86> I can't seem to use apport-collect in text mode, because w3m can't log me into Launchpad (the "Continue" button on the login page doesn't work, probably some javascript issue).
[00:38] <benkay86> I'm about to report this as a bug against Launchpad, but am I missing something obvious here?
[00:38] <shane2peru> I don't have a battery indicator by my clock???  shouldn't there be one there for my laptop??
[00:40] <arand> benkay86: Yea, it's the openid login that's the issue, I've tried in all links2, lynx and w3m, with no success, I wonder if it's simply launchpad login that has a weird unfriendly interface..
[00:41] <shane2peru> hmm, no one know about a battery indicator or power indicator by the clock
[00:42] <mpontillo> shane2peru: try unplugging your laptop from its power source
[00:42] <mpontillo> shane2peru: I believe they changed it to disappear if the battery is at 100% and plugged in
[00:42] <shane2peru> mpontillo, that is what I did, and nothing showed up, am I missing a package?  Do I need to enable an applet?
[00:43] <mpontillo> shane2peru, it's part of the indicator applet
[00:43] <benkay86> arand: Just submitted Bug #556927
[00:44] <shane2peru> mpontillo, ok, perhaps I need to re-install that or something
[00:44] <mpontillo> shane2peru: right click an empty spot in the panel, scroll down, and see if "Indicator Applet" is in the list. If so, you can re-add it
[00:45] <mpontillo> (sorry, I meant right-click and choose "Add to panel..."_
[00:45] <shane2peru> mpontillo, lol, ok added it and now I have two mail things, and two volume things, and no battery indicator
[00:45] <shane2peru> mpontillo, I guess that means my battery is not being picked up?
[00:47] <mpontillo> shane2peru: well, as I said if your battery is at 100% and your laptop is plugged in, it won't appear. =) but if you press alt-f2, then type "gnome-power-statistics" you can see if you can see your battery in there.
[00:48] <shane2peru> mpontillo, cool trick, thanks.  I guess I have a bug, because it shows my battery at 100% and it has been unplugged now for about 15 minutes
[00:49] <mpontillo> shane2peru: ah, yeah, that would do it.
[00:49] <shane2peru> oh, wait, mpontillo I see it is at 97%, ok, it is fine
[00:50] <mpontillo> great.
[00:50] <shane2peru> mpontillo, ok, thanks for the info, I didn't know about that gnome-power-statistics
[00:51] <mpontillo> well, that's the app that comes up if you click on the (non-full) battery and click the percentage. I guess it's new in Lucid; I hadn't seen it before at least.
[00:51] <shane2peru> mpontillo, yeah, it is new to me, and I have been around since Breezy days
[00:51] <shane2peru> mpontillo, ok, gotta run, thanks
[00:52] <mpontillo> np, cya.
[01:09] <_stink_> anyone else having crackly sound recently in lucid?
[01:09] <_stink_> i and a friend do now - worked fine before, now crackly.
[01:09] <_stink_> glanced through bug search and the lucid forum and didn't see anything immediately.
[01:10] <mpontillo> _stink_: I think this has been happening since Jaunty; were you on Jaunty before? see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/301755
[01:12] <_stink_> mpontillo: naw, this is an install from a daily from about 3 weeks ago...  mine's a vm
[01:12] <_stink_> but my pal's is on real hardware
[01:14] <mpontillo> _stink_: did you try the workaround mentioned in the bug? that is, change the line in /etc/pulse/default.pa that reads "load-module module-udev-detect" to read "load-module module-udev-detect tsched=0" and reboot?
[01:15] <_stink_> mpontillo: i will next time i fire up the vm :) thanks for the pointer
[01:15] <mpontillo> let us know if it solves the problem.
[01:16] <_stink_> will do
[01:20] <bisby> so the 10.04 live CD wont show anything on my screen (on a radeon 5870) when i boot. my 9.10 upgrade did the same thing. i went to recovery shell and removed fglrx and everything related to it... but still doesnt work. I got nothing sides a shell, how do i get the open source driver to load properly?
[01:22] <BUGa_vacations> "Practically all of Canonical's previous and ongoing efforts to  monetize the distro have been met with a certain degree of concern by  some users and contributors. The volunteers who have helped to make  Ubuntu a success are wary of being exploited and are slow to accept  Canonical's monetization strategies.  "
[01:23] <BUGa_vacations> ohhhh how I review myself in this words
[01:24] <virtuald> bisby: if you properly uninstalled fglrx then the open source driver should load automatically.. can't say if it actually works right now
[01:25] <bisby> virtuald: k. thanks. ive heard that fglrx doesnt work at all (though ive heard reports of people using it) and that the open source driver "should work just fine"
[01:26] <bisby> if its not in beta2 it SHOULD be fixed by RC right?
[01:27] <kklimonda> BUGa_vacations: oh?
[01:28] <ZykoticK9> bisby, I'm not personally up-to-date with ATI but you might want to have a look at bug #494699
[01:29] <bisby> yeah. ive had troubles with the fglrx installer which is why i completely removed it
[01:30] <bisby> zykotick9: the workaround says to use the open-source ati driver, but that wont load for me either
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> bisby, sorry I'm no help at all - I'm a nvidia-guy myself, but that bug i sent is the Lucid/ATI driver issue - so thought you should be aware of it's contents.  best of luck man.
[01:32] <MTughan> bisby: What GPU?
[01:32] <bisby> zykotick9: yeah. thanks for sure. im mostly nvidia guy too, just couldnt wait for fermi about 6 months ago lol. Maybe i should just find my old card for the mean time
[01:32] <bisby> MTughan: radeon 5870
[01:33] <MTughan> Yeah, the radeon driver only supports up to the 4970.
[01:33] <MTughan> And the 4890.
[01:33] <bisby> so for now theres not any option for the 5870?
[01:33] <MTughan> Not open source yet, no.
[01:34] <bisby> well that makes more sense. the official one is broke, and the open source one is not up to date.
[01:34] <MTughan> It's being worked on, and you might get some preliminary support from a source build of radeon, but it's not ready for primetime yet.
[01:35] <bisby> Cool. thanks a ton
[01:36] <pepee> mpontillo, are you there?
[01:37] <MTughan> bisby: Seems the radeon driver guys have a channel here too. You can ask them on progress on drivers for Cypress. #radeon
[01:37] <bisby> MTughan: youre just making my evening. Thanks ^_^
[01:39] <mpontillo> pepee: hey, I'm here. fyi, the bug we were looking at last night was filed already; I added a comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gupnp-tools/+bug/390011
[01:45] <pepee> mpontillo, ok
[01:47] <pepee> mpontillo, I have news on that: after purging gnome-control-center, I got the same errors, so I reinstalled the lib* packages associated to gnome-control-center and now it runs fine
[01:48] <Lars_G> !artbatista Kim Harrison - [Hollows 8] - Black Magic Sanction.epub
[01:48] <Lars_G> Oh shit
[01:48] <randomusr_> Could I safely delete kernels that are not being used by my system? and edit grub.conf to not display them?
[01:48] <Lars_G> I mean, sorry, wrong channel
[01:49] <MTughan> randomusr_: Yes to the first, although if Ubuntu works like Fedora, removing the kernels using the package manager automatically removes them from GRUB too. I haven't used Ubuntu enough to say whether that's true here as well.
[01:49] <MTughan> GRUB 2 may automatically remove the kernels itself.
[01:50] <randomusr_> nice
[01:50] <mpontillo> pepee: thanks; can you update the bug I linked with that information?
[01:50] <randomusr_> the original kernel that shipped with 10.04 will not load my graphics driver any longer so I figure time to dump it
[01:51] <pepee> ok, but I'll do some tests
[01:51] <pepee> I'm having some stability issues
[01:51] <randomusr_> MTughan, also what's the normal time between disk/filesystem checks?
[01:52] <MTughan> randomusr_: Sorry, no idea.
[01:52] <randomusr_> it's all good
[01:52] <zekoZeko> randomusr_: dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-x.x.x gives you the package name of the kernel, then you remove it with dpkg --purge packagename. everything else is automatic.
[01:52] <pepee> (not related to gupnp...)
[01:52] <BUGa_vacations> guud night guys
[01:52] <randomusr_> zekoZeko: I'll prolly just use synaptic to remove
[01:53] <zekoZeko> randomusr_: whatever suits you :) i prefer command line for this stuff.
[01:53] <nullbeat> how do i run update-initramfs -u from live cd?
[01:53] <randomusr_> i see that
[01:53] <mpontillo> randomusr_: sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | grep interval
[01:54] <mpontillo> randomusr_: mine is 6 months on a default Lucid/ext4 install
[01:54] <randomusr_> mpontillo, mine did this about a week after being installed
[01:55] <nullbeat> how do i run update-initramfs -u from live cd?
[01:56] <randomusr_> mpontillo, on my fedora box it's 0.... to funny
[01:56] <mpontillo> randomusr_, yeah, 0 means no checking ;)
[01:57] <randomusr_> I know, but that's sad
[01:57] <randomusr_> kinda like, screw you filesystem, who cares if you brake
[01:58] <randomusr_> break rather
[02:05] <holmser> so I'm messing with gwibber, but it won't let me log into my chat accounts
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> holmser, log in, or add new accounts?  If it's the later, check bug #552410
[02:09] <holmser> I have all of my accounts set up, but none of my chats will log in
[02:09] <holmser> nevermind
[02:16] <bsmith093> is there a way to be notified the INSTANT the repos update
[02:17] <bsmith093> or just apt get update
[02:23] <mpuser> Does anyone know if 10.04's VALGRIND works on 64-bit binaries? (NOTE: this is not the same as VALGRIND itself being 64-bit)
[02:30] <DasEi> nullbeat:
[02:30] <nullbeat> DasEi:
[02:30] <DasEi> nullbeat: lets start the whole over : exit
[02:30] <nullbeat> i tried to change the theme of plymouth, but it didn't work out too well
[02:31] <DasEi> mount, where's hd mounted ?
[02:31] <DasEi> /dev/sd ??
[02:31] <nullbeat> /media/212313eqae......
[02:31] <DasEi> unmount it, sudo umount /dev/whatever
[02:32] <DasEi> sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt
[02:32] <nullbeat> ok, hold on...
[02:32] <DasEi> sudo mount -o bind /dev  /mnt/dev
[02:33] <DasEi> sudo mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc
[02:33] <nullbeat> i did this: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[02:33] <nullbeat>   sudo update-initramfs -u
[02:33] <DasEi> sudo mount -o bind /sys  /mnt/sys
[02:33] <DasEi> sudo chroot /mnt
[02:33] <nullbeat> then this: Append video=vesafb to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[02:33] <nullbeat> then this: echo FRAMEBUFFER=y | sudo tee /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash
[02:34] <nullbeat> how do i un chroot? i can't unmount
[02:34] <DasEi> see above, line by line,  exit
[02:37] <nullbeat> ok, got it all done
[02:37] <DasEi> cd /boot
[02:37] <DasEi> ls
[02:37] <DasEi> images there ?
[02:37] <hassanakevazir> whats the package that includes the ubuntu menu ( Application System Places (
[02:37] <nullbeat> yes, there's 16, 18, and 19
[02:38] <DasEi> nullbeat: sudo update-initramfs -u
[02:38] <DasEi> hassanakevazir: gdm
[02:39] <nullbeat> ok, it generated it
[02:39] <hassanakevazir> There is annoying problem in Lucid where when a menu is too long and you have to scroll to the bottom, it snaps back to the top before you can select anything
[02:39] <DasEi> nullbeat: thatwas you initial question
[02:40] <nullbeat> yes, it was booting into a black screen because i turned framebuffer mode off
[02:40] <DasEi> nullbeat: why do you use framebuffer ?
[02:40] <DasEi> nullbeat: which g-card ?
[02:40] <nullbeat> i was trying to increase the resolution of the plymouth boot screen while running proprietary drivers
[02:40] <nullbeat> nvidia 8600 GT
[02:41] <antistrange> Asus K50 laptop.. can't figure out how to disable tap on trackpad.
[02:41] <ZykoticK9> nullbeat, proprietary nvidia only recently got graphical plymouth - we all had text plymouth for most of lucid development, but i think the nvidia one is currently locked at a low resolution
[02:41] <nullbeat> i tried to do what was in the /usr/share/doc/plymouth/README.debian file
[02:41] <DasEi> nullbeat: why do you need it ? the propitary works fine for that card, framebuffer is - I think _ a bad idea on that
[02:41] <nullbeat> DasEi: i can see how bad of an idea it is
[02:41]  * DasEi reading
[02:42] <antistrange> also touchfreeze doesn't seem to function
[02:43] <hassanakevazir> DasEi, nope not gdm , thats the login manage, nothing to do with the menus
[02:43] <antistrange> i'm assuming this is related to the HAL removal
[02:44] <DasEi> hassanakevazir: that is what gave my headless minimal installs the menu, whole package is ubuntu-desktop
[02:45] <DasEi> nullbeat: I don't think it's needed
[02:45] <ZykoticK9> antistrange, is hal really not running on your system?  It's certainly running on mine "ps aux | grep hal"
[02:46] <nullbeat> DasEi: so did i undo everything that i just did?
[02:46] <antistrange> only gives me the grep line
[02:46] <antistrange> so yes, i believe there is no hal
[02:47] <antistrange> i believe i need to create a new udev rules file to disable tap but i have no idea how
[02:47] <ZykoticK9> antistrange, i may have installed it to get vbox usb working
[02:48] <antistrange> ZykoticK9, probably.. it's supposed to be removed completely by default
[02:49] <DasEi> nullbeat: I don't know what the update.plymouth command did, for grub : gksudo /etc/default/grub    and check it
[02:49] <hassanakevazir> ah, found it. It was gnome-main-menu (pretty obvious )   :/
[02:55] <nullbeat> DasEi: ok, I'm going to try to reboot, and see if it works. brb
[02:55] <DasEi> k
[02:55] <MikeLu> Where did sun java go in 10.04?
[02:56] <DasEi> !java
[02:57] <MikeLu> sun-java isn't in the multiverse repos
[02:58] <MikeLu> I guess it's not available in the repos anymore..
[02:59] <MikeLu> I wish there was just one version of java that could work perfect that everyone else could use :(
[03:04] <DanaG> argh, ubuntuone sync client is using 100% CPU.
[03:06] <DasEi> !info sun-java6-jdk
[03:08] <ZykoticK9> sun-java6-jdk (and jre and plugin) are in the partner repository
[03:18] <Balrog_> hi, the current Folding@Home client doesn't seem to work with the version of libc in Ubuntu 10.04
[03:18] <Balrog_> fah6: relocation error: /lib/libnss_files.so.2: symbol __rawmemchr, version GLIBC_2.2.5 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[03:19] <EruditeHermit> hey, does anyone know how to work around this bug when upgrading to lucid? http://pastebin.com/JP4ANNCm
[03:20] <randomusr> how can I display the user list on the right side of xchat?
[03:28] <Balrog_> ahha, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/505265
[03:36] <NoelJB> randomusr, what's the problem?  It is working fine for me.
[03:36] <NoelJB> randomusr, view->user list
[03:39] <randomusr> anyone know of a distro that has more of a video game/cartoon look to it?
[03:40] <IdleOne> randomusr: distrowatch probably knows
[03:40] <IdleOne> I mean you could check out different distro web sites and see
[03:41] <randomusr> this is likely true
[03:41] <randomusr> IdleOne, I'm not asking for me but someone else
[03:41] <IdleOne> randomusr: same answer still applies :)
[03:41] <Meroe> Howdy all - anyone have a link or info regarding known boot problems with 10.04 beta?  It installs fine, but won't boot.  I get to the Ubuntu purple background with the 4-5 dots under it and then it just sits there.  I let it go all night.
[03:42] <Meroe> 9.10 works just fine btw
[03:45] <nonameNN> Meroe: try bootin with vga=vesa
[03:45] <randomusr> lame
[03:45] <nonameNN> Meroe: then upgrade
[03:45] <Meroe> nonameNN alright I'll give that a whirl.  As it typically works as soona as I asked I found a page detailing my same issue so I'm reading throught that now.
[03:47] <Meroe> nonameNN going to reboot now wish me luck :)
[03:47] <randomusr> so long long and good luck
[03:53] <MTughan> Word to the wise: Don't put too many G's on a hard drive by hitting it hard, even accidentally. I have an unknown number of new bad sectors on my hard drive now, and have to reinstall ~30 packages to get them off bad sectors.
[04:04] <hassanakevazir> can someone reproduce this minor annoyance: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/556999
[04:06] <antistrange> how can i disable trackpad tap?
[04:07] <holstein> antistrange: system preferenses mouse
[04:07] <holstein> hmm
[04:07] <holstein> maybe not
[04:07] <holstein> that got updated looks like
[04:07] <antistrange> yup :(
[04:07] <antistrange> touchfreeze doesn't work either
[04:08] <holstein> OH
[04:08] <DanaG> I've found scrolling in menus in firefox to be buggy:
[04:08] <holstein> i got 2 'mouse'
[04:08] <holstein> entries
[04:08] <nullbeat> hello, neither gdm nor xserver will start
[04:08] <DanaG> if I have a livemark and click to expand it, it acts as if up-scroller is active, even when I'm over down-scroller.
[04:08] <holstein> in system - preferences
[04:08] <DanaG> So it'll scroll down... and then go right back up.
[04:09] <nullbeat> hello, neither gdm nor xserver will start, i regenerated initramfs, and returned grub back to default settings... not sure what else to do
[04:10] <MTughan> antistrange: I have an option in System->Preferences->Mouse under the Touchpad tab to "Enable mouse clicks with touchpad". Just uncheck that.
[04:10] <antistrange> i have no touchpad tab
[04:11] <MTughan> But your laptop has a trackpad?
[04:11] <antistrange> yes and functions.. two finger scrolling works as well
[04:11] <holstein> antistrange: i havnt restarted since my last update
[04:11] <antistrange> it's an asus k50 laptop
[04:11] <holstein> maybe i got something thats going to go away
[04:11] <holstein> :/
[04:11] <MTughan> Huh. Sounds like it's emulating a mouse internally then, and Ubuntu doesn't know how to detect it.
[04:11] <antistrange> possibly
[04:12] <antistrange> hmm
[04:12] <MTughan> The trackpad on my Lenovo T400 is definitely detected.
[04:13] <nullbeat> hello, neither gdm nor xserver will start, i regenerated initramfs, and returned grub back to default settings... not sure what else to do
[04:13] <holstein> hey nullbeat
[04:13] <holstein> did you do that in the revovery console?
[04:14] <nullbeat> no, i mounted my hdd from live cd, which i'm running now
[04:14] <nullbeat> then chrooted and binded all the nec. stuff
[04:14] <nullbeat> then update-initramfs -u
[04:14] <nishanth> my lucid stopped detecting my volume controller . can someone help me?
[04:15] <holstein> ??
[04:15] <nullbeat> basically i screwed up my system by following the instructions in: /usr/share/doc/plymouth/README.Debian
[04:15] <holstein> nishanth: soundcard?
[04:15] <nullbeat> and now i'm trying to undo it all, but it's not working
[04:15] <holstein> or the volume controls are gone?
[04:16] <nullbeat> first it wouldn't show anything after grub, but it would boot up... then i got it to show the boot screen after i generated a new initramfs
[04:16] <nishanth> holstein: my volume controller is not detected (manual volume adjuster) the physical device . i can use the mouse and do it on the computer
[04:16] <nullbeat> and now i'm not really sure how to proceed... i'm sure it's something simple that i'm missing...
[04:16] <holstein> nishanth: OH, like the shortcut keys on the keyboard?
[04:16] <nishanth> i mean i can adjust use the mouse to do it
[04:17] <holstein> or the buttons on the side?
[04:17] <nishanth> but there is this scroll thing on my keyboard that does it when i move my hand over it
[04:17] <nishanth> yes
[04:18] <holstein> nishanth: so, whats the problem? ;)
[04:18] <holstein> nah, i dont know...
[04:18] <nishanth> well i move my hand over it and does not change the volume
[04:18] <holstein> you might want to try booting into the older kernel or something
[04:18] <holstein> try and narrow down what could be causing it
[04:18] <holstein> and report
[04:19] <nishanth> well this started from yesterday after i turned off acpi
[04:19] <holstein> hmmm
[04:19] <nishanth> i dont know how i can get it back on
[04:20] <nishanth> someone gave me a command to type in the terminal and i did it.. but now i dont know how to undo it
[04:20] <MTughan> Do you remember what command it was?
[04:20] <holstein> you can use 'history'
[04:20] <holstein> to see what it was
[04:21] <nishanth> it was some thing to edit some file
[04:21] <nishanth> i had to update grub after that
[04:21] <nishanth> then reebot it
[04:22] <nishanth> holstein: i used the up arrow in the terminal to see if the command was visible again but i did not find it
[04:22] <nishanth> is there another way to find it?
[04:22] <holstein> nishanth: type 'history'
[04:22] <holstein> and see
[04:23] <nishanth> no it is not there
[04:23] <nishanth> it was something like gksu edit.....does not remember
[04:23] <nishanth> well it was to set acpi=off
[04:24] <nishanth> where do you do it?
[04:25] <holstein> !grub2
[04:25] <ZykoticK9> nishanth, would "gksu gedit /etc/default/grub" seem like the command you ran?
[04:25] <nishanth> yes that is it
[04:25] <nullbeat> i botched my system by following the instructions to get high color/resolution graphics with nvidia drivers in: /usr/share/doc/plymouth/README.Debian, can anyone help me?
[04:26] <nishanth> my system does not detect my sound increase and decrease device after turning acpi off
[04:28] <holstein> nishanth: you should read that grub2 link
[04:28] <holstein> and go in and see what you added there
[04:28] <nishanth> ZykoticK9 : do you know how to make the sound controller work?
[04:28] <holstein> if it was /etc/defautlt/grub that you edited
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> nishanth, no idea man.  Best of luck.
[04:29] <nishanth> holstein: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=off"
[04:30] <holstein> i bet thats the one
[04:30] <holstein> just remember what you do
[04:30] <MTughan> nishanth: You should just be able to remove "acpi=off" from there.
[04:30] <holstein> and you can always undo it
[04:30] <holstein> you should be able to put a '#' in front of that
[04:31] <nishanth> well the reason i did that is becoz my system used to freeze in between stuff for no reason
[04:31] <holstein> 'comment it out'
[04:31] <ZykoticK9> holstein, no - don't put a # infront of it!
[04:31] <holstein> ZykoticK9: no?
[04:31] <holstein> did that change too?
[04:31] <holstein> OH
[04:31] <ZykoticK9> holstein, nishanth just change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[04:31] <holstein> its a changed param
[04:31] <holstein> gotcha
[04:31] <nullbeat> i botched my system by following the instructions to get high color/resolution graphics with nvidia drivers in: /usr/share/doc/plymouth/README.Debian, can anyone help me?
[04:32]  * holstein thought it was a whole new line
[04:32] <holstein> thats how much ive messed around with grub2 ;)
[04:32] <nishanth> no it was already there...just added acpi=off
[04:33] <nishanth> do i have to update grub before i restart?
[04:33] <holstein> yup
[04:33] <ZykoticK9> nishanth, sudo update-grub - i think
[04:34] <nishanth> last time i just did update-grub there was no -i
[04:34] <ZykoticK9> no that was just a comment "- i think"
[04:34] <costre> After a system update, the computer reaches graphics mode, displayes the login background, but stops. The mouse and keyboard is responsive, but the harddrive light is on constantly. I can't login on another prompt, only enter username, then nothing. Is it some heavy updating procedure going on in the background, or does it seem something is fubar?
[04:34] <holstein> sudo update-grub
[04:34] <nishanth> lol
[04:35] <nishanth> done let me restart
[04:35] <nishanth> and see if it works
[04:37] <nishanth> it worked
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> costre, assuming the update was a kernel change -- hold shift as computer boots, and select an older kernel and see if it still occurs
[04:37] <costre> will do
[04:38] <nishanth> but is there a way to get around this by fixing my computer freeze at random times?
[04:41] <costre> well, there i go ... logged in without problems after a cold reboot, nothing else :)
[04:43] <MTecknology> I'm getting my first look at the new desktop for 10.04
[04:43] <MTecknology> one word - wow
[04:43] <holstein> MTecknology: slick right?
[04:43] <MTecknology> I'm not sure how well the colors blend together, but everything else is pretty dang neat
[04:44] <holstein> nishanth: do you have a launchpad account?
[04:44] <MTughan> I frankly like it better than the brown tones.
[04:44] <holstein> you could just file a bug for it
[04:44] <MTecknology> me too
[04:44] <nishanth> holstein: yes i do
[04:44] <nishanth> holstein: how can i do that?
[04:44] <MTecknology> I don't personally use gnome so I don't see this much - I usually stick down aroudn openbox
[04:45] <holstein> nishanth: if you dont get a message about reporting automatically
[04:45] <holstein> you can just search around
[04:45] <holstein> and see if you find one already filed
[04:45] <edgy> Hi, my laptop has a label saying ATI HD 5730 but lspci shows 5600 series, is this correct?
[04:45] <holstein> you can usually google it with decent results
[04:45] <holstein> if not, make a new one
[04:46] <holstein> edgy: that should be fine
[04:46] <nishanth> well what do i search? like device not detected when acpi set to off?
[04:46] <holstein> is it working OK edgy ?
[04:46] <MTughan> holstein: That card's not supported on anything other than fallback drivers anyway.
[04:46] <holstein> nishanth: i would search, on computer X, system crashes for X reason
[04:46] <edgy> holstein: unfortunately it's not working when I install fglrx
[04:47] <edgy> holstein: should I file a bug or is it a known issue?
[04:47] <nishanth> holstein; i have no idea why it freezes? so what might X be?
[04:48] <edgy> holstein: I thought 57300 would be 5700 series not 5600 series!!
[04:48] <holstein> edgy: not sure..
[04:48] <MTughan> edgy: Yeah, the Mobility Radeon HD 5650 and the Mobility Radeon HD 5730 have similar specs and the same core, so it's nothing to worry about.
[04:49] <holstein> ive seen strange jumps like that
[04:49] <holstein> in numbers
[04:49] <edgy> thanks a lot MTughan, and holstein, I just want to make sure I was not cheated ;)
[04:49] <holstein> and all was fine
[04:49] <MTecknology> I learned one thing from Gentoo after all my use.... I know off the top of my head to setup an awesome chroot
[04:49] <MTughan> edgy: As for the fglrx drivers, they've had troubles with recent versions of X. ATI's finally getting on it, but the current stable drivers don't support it.
[04:50] <edgy> MTughan: but the one included in lucid now should work fine, no?
[04:50] <MTughan> edgy: No. It's not necessarily tested beforehand.
[04:51] <MTecknology> :'( I think I just lost A LOT of data.... like shared keys, pgp keys, all my pictures, I thought I backed it up but I'm looking at the backup and not seeing it...
[04:52] <edgy> MTughan: to report a bug there is a command, what is it?
[04:52] <MTughan> edgy: I don't know a command line tool to do that... I know Ubuntu uses Launchpad for a bug tracker.
[04:52] <edgy> MTughan: ok I figured it now: ubuntu-bug
[04:58] <bbordwell> edgy, ubuntu-bug <package name>
[04:59] <bbordwell> edgy, what it the bug you are reporting?
[05:02] <Zenker> ola everyone
[05:04] <Zenker> holstein wats the word man?
[05:06] <holstein> hey Zenker
[05:12] <Out_Cold> so is there a bug where a usb iso cannot mount because the computer thinks it's a cd drive?
[05:12] <Out_Cold> ** during fresh install
[05:22] <edgy> bbordwell: that my ATI 5730 is not recognized by fglrx
[05:24] <MTughan> edgy: I don't think it's a problem with fglrx detecting your 5730, just that fglrx can't actually drive Xorg.
[05:25] <bbordwell> MTughan, fgrlx in lucid now should be working AFAIK
[05:25] <MTughan> bbordwell: It's using the beta of Catalyst? Because I don't think the stable works yet.
[05:25] <bbordwell> edgy, yes
[05:26] <bbordwell> MTughan, yes
[05:26] <MTughan> Oh, okay.
[05:26] <MTughan> I'll stick with radeon on my machine though. Compiz works fine with my 3470.
[05:28] <bbordwell> MTughan, you mean the open source driver?
[05:28] <MTughan> Yes.\
[05:28] <MTughan> It's called radeon, is it not?
[05:28] <bbordwell> MTughan, I am not sure, i have a nvidia card
[05:28] <MTughan> Ah.
[05:29] <bbordwell> MTughan, next will be ATI though due to AMD's efforts to help with open source drivers
[05:29] <MTughan> Well, radeonhd is apparently deprecated now, so that leaves me with radeon.
[05:29] <MTughan> bbordwell: Really? How long has AMD owned ATI now?
[05:30] <bbordwell> MTughan, 2006?
[05:30] <MTughan> Sounds about right. So it took them 3+ years to get on OSS stuff?
[05:31] <ermc77> Interesting question. I just installed Lucid, and it doesn't want to seem to recognize any wifi networks that windows does. It also shows programs like gnome partition editor installed, but I can't find it. Any suggestions?
[05:32] <bbordwell> ermc77, I would install gparted for partitioning
[05:32] <bbordwell> ermc77, Are you not getting any wireless networks or are just some missing?
[05:32] <ermc77> I can't. wifi won't recognize my wifi network.
[05:32] <ermc77> I'm only getting 1 or 2 out of the 6 or 7 that my ipod lists.
[05:33] <bbordwell> ermc77, I have heard some people talking about secured wifi not being detected on some cards, are the ones that show up the unsecured ones?
[05:33] <MTughan> bbordwell: I have my WPA2 networks showing up fine.
[05:34] <bbordwell> MTughan, me too, but i have heard people here and there and seen bug reports about it
[05:34] <MTughan> In fact, Ubuntu's detecting more networks than the MacBook beside it.
[05:35] <ermc77> nope. the one that won't show that I need is a secured WEP
[05:35] <bbordwell> ermc77, are you just upgrading or is this your first time using ubuntu?
[05:36] <AutoBot> is it safe to upgrade gnome yet?
[05:36] <bbordwell> AutoBot, yes
[05:36] <AutoBot> bbordwell: cool thanks
[05:37] <AutoBot> I have been waiting paitiently :)
[05:37] <bbordwell> AutoBot, you are talking about the channel topic posted a while back about not upgrading because gnome packages were in flux correct?
[05:37] <AutoBot> yea
[05:37] <ermc77> Just a new install of Lucid. I've used 9.04 and 9.10 for awhile.
[05:37] <AutoBot> bbordwell: yea @ you
[05:38] <AutoBot> bbordwell: I had started and left myself with a half-assed update
[05:38] <ermc77> can I use terminal to fix my problem? Right now I only have net access via win7.
[05:39] <AutoBot> ermc77: I missed the front end of your conversation. what do you need to do from the cli?
[05:39] <MTughan> AutoBot: He's missing some wireless networks from NM that are detected from Win7.
[05:40] <bbordwell> ermc77, have you looked to see if the 1 or 2 networks that do show up are unsecured? this would narrow down the problem
[05:40] <AutoBot> MTughan: you mean the SSID aren't showing?
[05:40] <MTughan> AutoBot: Presumably.
[05:40] <AutoBot> force them
[05:40] <ermc77> The one that I did see was a secured wpa.
[05:40] <bbordwell> ermc77, hmm odd
[05:40] <MTughan> ermc77: You can try adding in the network manually and see if Ubuntu connects. You can get to there by right-clicking on the network manager icon and clicking Edit Connections.
[05:40] <MTughan> Go to the Wireless tab and add a new network.
[05:41] <bbordwell> +1 good idea ^^^
[05:41] <AutoBot> use the connect to a hidden network if you know the SSID
[05:41] <ermc77> I tried connecting to a hidden network and doing it that way.
[05:41] <ermc77> What's an ssid?
[05:41] <AutoBot> ermc77: no dice huh
[05:41] <bbordwell> ermc77, the name of the network
[05:41] <ermc77> ah, ok
[05:42] <bbordwell> AutoBot, do you have a launchpad id?
[05:42] <AutoBot> ermc77: what application are you using
[05:42] <AutoBot> bbordwell: I'm in Windows currenly
[05:43] <bbordwell> AutoBot, So is that a no?
[05:43] <AutoBot> bbordwell: I am not sure what launchpad is, so I guess no lol
[05:44] <AutoBot> bbordwell: is it ubuntu related?
[05:44] <bbordwell> AutoBot, very
[05:44] <bbordwell> AutoBot, all development/bugs are cordinated through it
[05:44] <AutoBot> bbordwell: I'm on old gentoo user, not up on ubuntu yet
[05:44] <ermc77> application? for what?
[05:44] <AutoBot> old debian user also
[05:45] <AutoBot> ermc77: to connect to wifi networks
[05:45] <ermc77> oh yeah. Launchpad.
[05:45] <bbordwell> MTughan, do you have a launchpad id?
[05:45] <ermc77>  I know nothing about gentoo
[05:45] <MTughan> bbordwell: No.
[05:45] <AutoBot> bbordwell: I probably do have an account, if it's dev/bug related
[05:46] <ermc77> so what's the ssid? is it the name of the desired network?
[05:46] <AutoBot> ermc77: yes
[05:46] <AutoBot> ermc77: plain text
[05:46] <ermc77> ah, okay. well. there's a space in between two words, so do I need to do any special characters for that?
[05:46] <AutoBot> ermc77: like the name your router/AP broadcasts out
[05:46] <bbordwell> AutoBot, no i was just going to look through any of your related bugs and see if i could help triage them but if you do not know what it is then you prob dont have any bugs related to you
[05:46] <ermc77> right, okay.
[05:46] <AutoBot> ermc77: thats your problem probably
[05:47] <ermc77> ?
[05:47] <AutoBot> bbordwell: no bugs here, I can usually iron them out...or stomp on them if need be ;)
[05:48] <AutoBot> ermc77: I'm not sure you can connect to an SSID with whitespaces
[05:48] <AutoBot> try some_name
[05:48] <ermc77> so then can I use an _ instead?
[05:48] <AutoBot> underscore
[05:48] <AutoBot> ermc77: yes
[05:49] <ermc77> okay, then I'll try that instead. Thank you all.
[05:49] <ermc77> :)
[05:51] <bbordwell> MTughan, Do you have any easily reproducible bugs that are bothering you?
[05:51] <MTughan> bbordwell: Not right now.
[05:51] <MTughan> Only things are hardware related.
[05:51] <bbordwell> MTughan, lucky....
[05:51] <MTughan> Eg, 26 bad sectors on my HDD.
[05:53] <bbordwell> MTughan, 0 on all three of my drives :) how old is that drive?
[05:54] <MTughan> bbordwell: Not that old actually, but I have a bit of a temper. :P
[05:54] <MTughan> I think it's coming up on around 1.5 years.
[05:54] <bbordwell> MTughan, ahh well thats what warranty is for if you get too many more
[05:55] <MTughan> bbordwell: I'm skipping mechanical's. Getting an SSD for this thing.
[05:55]  * bbordwell loves the 5 year warranty on my hdd
[05:55] <MTughan> Should make it quite a bit faster too.
[05:55] <MTughan> Actually, it was just 7 bad sectors before from when I dropped it on a concrete floor. The other 19 were added today when I was having wireless problems.
[05:57] <ddecator> anything interesting going on in here?
[05:58] <bbordwell> ddecator, nope
[05:59] <bbordwell> ddecator, are you in ubuntu-bugs as well?
[05:59] <ddecator> bbordwell: yes
[06:00] <ermc77> Interestingly enough, my network applet informs me that the wifi and etho are both disconnected.
[06:01] <ermc77> Blah, I'm so tired. I shouldn't even be messing with this now.
[06:02] <ermc77> And I've got a Realtek wifi card.
[06:14] <nishanth> any one know how to install GDL on lucid?
[06:15] <nishanth> any one know how to install GDL on lucid?
[06:17] <om26er> nishanth, there is a package python-gdl that might be what your are looking for
[06:18] <nishanth> do you know if it is compatible with GDL stuff?
[06:20] <nishanth> om26er : i tried python-gdl and it gives me this msg
[06:21] <nishanth> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:21] <nishanth> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[06:21] <om26er> nishanth, this means any other app is using root privelges
[06:21] <nishanth> oh ok
[06:21] <nishanth> i think i know
[06:22] <nishanth> om26er: why cant i download the actual gnudatalanguage?
[06:23] <nishanth> it gives me this msg when i do that
[06:23] <om26er> nishanth, dont know
[06:23] <nishanth> http://pastebin.com/BL6rMSc4
[06:23] <nishanth> it is a different msg
[06:32] <om26er> nishanth, I get the same error
[06:33] <Y0Z> omg another ubunto chanhel
[06:33] <nishanth> om26er : is there a way to fix
[06:33] <Y0Z> no
[06:33] <Y0Z> sorry
[06:33] <Y0Z> win xp rules
[06:33] <Y0Z> btw
[06:33] <bazhang> Y0Z, please stop that
[06:33] <Y0Z> haha
[06:34] <Y0Z> you should try msdos
[06:34] <bazhang> !ot > Y0Z
[06:35] <Y0Z> sudo mudo fudo
[06:35] <Y0Z> try that
[06:36] <nishanth> anyone know how to get a .iso file running without first writting it to a disk?
[06:36] <om26er> nishanth, explain
[06:36] <Y0Z> yeah
[06:36] <nishanth> well say i downloaded a .iso file i want to open it what do i do?
[06:37] <om26er> nishanth, double click
[06:37] <om26er> nishanth, right click and mount
[06:37] <Y0Z> good advice
[06:37] <nishanth> ok i right click ....and then choose open with archive mounter but it does not work
[06:38] <bazhang> nishanth, iso of what
[06:38] <Y0Z> meh, try windows 98
[06:38] <nishanth> bazhang; well it is a game
[06:38] <Y0Z> cya
[06:40] <nishanth> any clues ?
[06:49] <nishanth> anyone know to fix archive mounter?
[06:51] <om26er> nishanth, you can try to mount that ISO from terminal if archive mounter is not working
[06:51] <czr_> any hints on how to get lucid working on a poulsbo ("intel" GMA-500/PowerVR mess)
[06:51] <nishanth> om26er ; how?
[06:53] <nishanth> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/557050
[06:53] <Amaranth> czr_: Yeah, use the vesa driver
[06:53] <nishanth> any one know a fix?
[06:53] <czr_> Amaranth, funny :-).
[06:53] <czr_> it's so slow it's painful.
[06:53] <om26er> nishanth, sudo mount filename /mnt --loop
[06:53] <om26er> I think
[06:53] <czr_> and yes, I know that the whole mess is non-trivial and .. but just wondering whether there is any way of getting at least decent 2D.
[06:57] <nishanth> om26er ; http://pastebin.com/Y3hDju9v
[06:58] <nishanth> wat is even stranger is that it works fine with some other .iso file
[06:58] <nishanth> when i try to open this file it gives me a error report
[06:58] <nishanth> actually it tells me to report a bug
[06:59] <EdgEy> nishanth, read the first line
[06:59] <om26er> nishanth, sudo mount -o loop isoname
[07:00] <EdgEy> you probably want to use "sudo mount -o loop war3.iso /mnt/whatever"
[07:00] <EdgEy> yes
[07:01] <nishanth> so i need to type " sudo mount -o loop war3.iso " is that it?
[07:01] <nishanth> is it the right syntax?
[07:01] <EdgEy> nishanth, need a folder at the end
[07:01] <EdgEy> to mount it to
[07:02] <frewsxcv> what's the difference between rsa and gpg?
[07:07] <nishanth> nishanth@nishanth-laptop:~/Desktop$ "sudo mount -o loop war3.iso /mnt/Desktop
[07:07] <om26er> nishanth, is there a Directory /mnt/Desktop?
[07:08] <nishanth> no
[07:08] <om26er> nishanth, create it
[07:08] <om26er> nishanth, sudo mkdir /mnt/Desktop
[07:09] <nishanth> ok that worked but now how do i get to this directory
[07:10] <om26er> nishanth, open file managerr> Filesystem>mnt>Desktop
[07:19] <mpontillo> om26er, nishanth: isn't this unlikely to work? wouldn't you have to do "sudo mount -o loop,user=<your-username> <image-file> <directory>"? that way you can access the contents as your normal user.
[07:19] <nishanth> it worked
[07:20] <om26er> nishanth, If you had mounted this in /media/directory I think it would also appear in the sidebar of nautilus (if its not already there not sure)
[07:20] <mpontillo> nishanth: ah, I was probably thinking of when you'd want to mount a loop device read/write.
[07:24] <nishanth> does any one know how to run a program that keeps giving the msg the cd-rom not detected...i actually dont have a cd-rom for this instead i installed it using iso image
[07:26] <hellyeah> hey
[07:26] <hellyeah> someone there
[07:26] <om26er> hellyeah, I am
[07:27] <hellyeah> okey i have a problem with compiz in ubuntu lucid
[07:27] <hellyeah> actually two problems
[07:27] <hellyeah> first problem is i cannot enable all plugins in compiz
[07:28] <hellyeah> i install all compiz package from ubuntu repo
[07:29] <hellyeah> you have an idea about this problem
[07:39] <ddecator> i'm at a loss
[07:51] <bazhang> johndee, you mean unetbootin? usb-creator?
[07:52] <johndee> bazhang: i hd-media installer. boot.img.gz for example
[07:52] <johndee> s/i/i mean/
[07:52] <bazhang> johndee, you are trying to install lucid via usb flash key, correct?
[07:52] <johndee> bazhang: yep
[07:53] <bazhang> johndee, never heard of hd-media installer; is that a windows application? unetbootin can be used on windows systems btw
[07:54] <bazhang> unetbootin.sourceforge.net should have it
[07:54] <johndee> bazhang: that's a bootable image for flash drives
[07:55] <johndee> bazhang: you copy it to a drive along with iso image. and installer is supposed to use that image
[07:55] <bazhang> johndee, windows application? I'd try with unetbootin tbh
[07:57] <johndee> bazhang: not an application. image file. like iso :) thanks for the tip but i'd rather find out how to fix this thing
[07:58] <johndee> the thing is that Release file on the cd points to some files that are not on the cd, which doesn't allow installation to continue
[07:59] <papegaaij> hi all
[07:59] <johndee> yet, i've just installed it in a VM from iso just fine :\
[07:59] <papegaaij> can someone tell me how to customize my synaptics touchpad with 10.4?
[08:00] <papegaaij> i made a udev rules file, which worked for a few days, but not anymore
[08:01] <papegaaij> i do see the settings like 'ENV{x11_options.MaxTapTime}="0"' in /var/log/udev
[08:01] <papegaaij> but they don't seem to effect the xorg input driver anymore
[08:01] <Berzerker> anyone experience a bug where the system freezes after logging in?
[08:02] <papegaaij>  /lib/udev/rules.d/66-xorg-synaptics.rules used to set some x11_options, but now it only sets ID_INPUT.tags
[08:07] <johndee> don't mean to be annoying but still
[08:08] <johndee> i'm trying to install lucid beta 1 from usb flash using hd-media boot image. when the installer finds the iso (from the second try) it says it can
[08:09] <johndee> 't copy some files from the cd. even though md5sum of the image matches
[08:09] <johndee> am i the only one who tried it? :)
[08:09] <DasEi> johndee: I dont' that app hd-media boot image, startup creator ? use unetbootin
[08:09] <DasEi> know*
[08:10] <johndee> DasEi: it's not an app
[08:10] <johndee> just a sec
[08:10] <johndee> :)
[08:11] <johndee> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[08:11] <johndee> DasEi: same thing as netboot but for network-less installations
[08:12] <DasEi> johndee: that was for 9.04, and it's quite complicated, use unetbootin, I can  tell it work  with this beta
[08:14] <DasEi> johndee: what's the os you're on now ?
[08:14] <papegaaij> ah, it seems the configuration has moved once again, back to the xorg.conf :/
[08:15] <DasEi> papegaaij: y and n, by default it's empty since karmic, but still can be used
[08:16] <johndee> DasEi: the steps are the same for lucid. so are the installer files. i guess it's not very popular scenario among ubuntu people
[08:16] <johndee> DasEi: thanks for unetbootin tip but i'm not going to use a program for a simple two commands task
[08:17] <DasEi> johndee: there are lots ways to achieve a usb install, but proven simple ones are often favourite, yes
[08:18] <johndee> DasEi: os'es are slackware and winxp i have at hand now
[08:18] <johndee> DasEi: well, this time i'll get by with cd-rw i guess
[08:19] <DasEi> johndee: use unetbootin for win,  format the stick with fat before, when it says finished, let it sit for 2~min and cleanly unmount tthe stick then
[08:19] <johndee> DasEi: ty
[08:19] <Kow> question with regard to iso testing: debian-installer = installing in text mode from boot menu?
[08:20] <DasEi> johndee: do I start an argue .. huh, cd is saved, usb is faster
[08:20] <johndee> rewritable won't get hurt much :)
[08:20] <DasEi> Kow : desktop cd ?
[08:20] <Kow> alternate
[08:20] <Kow> http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/AlternateWhole
[08:21] <DasEi> Kow : .. is always textbased, yes way to install with that
[08:23] <Kow> is ubiquity not just a frontend to debian-installer, or a replacement?
[08:24] <Badasskow> i thought i had one of these names registered... might have been dropped though
[08:25] <DasEi> Kow: ubiquity is the graphical pendant to textinstaller
[08:26] <DasEi> .. as found on the desktop-cd
[08:30] <DasEi> LordKow: do a whois, and you see, dropped happens only in a loong time of off-net, see #freenode for more
[08:45] <johe|work> hi all, i have a problem with do-release-upgrade -d, it tells  RROR IOError/SystemError in cache.update(): 'W:Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 141.30.13.10 80]
[08:50] <LordKow> johe|work: it appears that the de.archive.ubuntu.com lucid repos do not have the binary-amd64 available at the moment... Either change the ubuntu mirror you use or wait a few hours and then the problem should resolve itself.
[08:51] <LordKow> johe|work: in fact... i refreshed and now the link is good.
[08:52] <LordKow> try it again :)
[09:01] <johe|work> LordKow, thx
[09:12] <johe|work> now it fails on 2010-04-07 10:02:57,760 WARNING updateStatus: dlFailed on 'http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2'
[09:15] <johe|work> LordKow, now it fails on 2010-04-07 10:02:57,760 WARNING updateStatus: dlFailed on 'http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2'
[09:15] <LordKow> seems to me that you need to wait a bit longer
[09:16] <johe|work> :-)
[09:26] <storola> Are there some known problems with python / cython in Lucid?
[09:26] <storola> I can't run our python / cython scripts anymore after upgrading. I get different kind of problems like, *** glibc detected *** python: double free or corruption (out): 0xb16b0008 ***
[09:32] <hceylan> Hello I am trying the packages from ppa:xorg-edgers I upgraded the packages and installed nouveau-back-ports but I get "KMS not enabled" any ideas?
[09:33] <ricotz> hceylan, you should ask in #ubuntu-x
[09:33] <hceylan> ricotz: thx....
[09:33] <brainproxy> anyone had any luck getting xenserver tools running with 10.04 beta1 as a guest os?
[10:27] <Vaibhav_Mishra> is there any way to run real time kernel on lucid
[10:41] <cwillu_at_work> bind '"\C-W": "foo"'  inserts "foo" when hitting control-w
[10:42] <cwillu_at_work> bind '"\C-W": forward-char'  deletes backwards when hitting control-w
[10:42] <cwillu_at_work> what's the difference?
[10:43] <cwillu_at_work> oops, wrong channel
[10:47] <Vaibhav_Mishra> can someone tell me how to get the initial grub menu in ubuntu lucid, my system directly boots to generic kernel , without allowing me to select the which kernel I want ot run
[10:48] <bbordwell> Vaibhav_Mishra, hold shift during boot i belive
[10:48] <Vaibhav_Mishra> ok
[10:49] <Vaibhav_Mishra> that worked thanx
[10:49] <bbordwell> Vaibhav_Mishra, or do you want it to come up everytime?
[11:14] <xerophyte> does anybody know how can i get flash workig  with chrome .. i mean i have create plugins folder and put the libflashplayer in the plugin folder and started the chrome /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome --enable-plugins %U its still not working i am running 10.04
[11:18] <Vaibhav_Mishra> bborwell:no it works fine with me
[11:21] <arand> xerophyte: I have flashplugin-installer in, and just now installed chrmoium-browser, works fine
[11:22] <arand> xerophyte: No moving of files even.
[11:26] <xerophyte> arand hmmm
[11:29] <linuxrevolution> Keyboard layout error!
[11:29] <cwillu_at_work> \o/
[11:31] <linuxrevolution> :p
[11:31] <xerophyte> arand: its not working i have installed both too
[11:31] <linuxrevolution> I can't install gnome-shell because of a package!!
[11:32] <dyllan> Hi all.
[11:32] <bbordwell> dyllan, hey
[11:32] <linuxrevolution>  Depends: libgjs0 but it is not going to be installed
[11:32] <dyllan> Has anyone experienced/ resolved the Network Manager Applet problem?
[11:32] <kklimonda> linuxrevolution: gnome-shell package is pretty outdated
[11:32] <dyllan> struggling my ass off here ;)
[11:32] <linuxrevolution> :(
[11:32] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, ya they need to update it to the 2.29 version
[11:33] <bbordwell> dyllan, what network manager applet problem exactly?
[11:33] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: yep that's 2.28
[11:33] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, you have a launchpad id?
[11:34] <linuxrevolution> bbya
[11:34] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: ya
[11:34] <dyllan> bbordwell: Well my Network Manager Applet appears on my panel but the wireless icon has a red exclamation mark on it. When hovering over it, "Network Manager not running..." appears, however I can confirm it is running.
[11:34] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, what is it?
[11:35] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: https://launchpad.net/~ashkan-shahrokhinejad
[11:35] <bbordwell> dyllan, is your wireless internet working?
[11:35] <kklimonda> dyllan: kill nm-applet and run it from terminal
[11:35] <dyllan> bbordwell: If i plug in a wired connection and give it static ip via /etc/networking/interfaces I get connectivity, but there is still no change on the applet. I tried install wicd and it picks up wireless networks but cant connect, says it is unable to obtain ip.
[11:36] <dyllan> kklimonda: I did so, no help, killed and ran it again, got some strange errors in the terminal if your interested.
[11:36] <dyllan> bbordwell: most certainly.
[11:36] <kklimonda> dyllan: the strange errors are probably important
[11:36] <kklimonda> heh, most likely*
[11:36] <dyllan> kklimonda: sure.
[11:38] <bbordwell> dyllan, is this a fresh install or an upgrade?
[11:38] <dyllan> bbordwell: it's an upgrade.
[11:39] <bbordwell> dyllan, You should see if it works on a livecd/flash drive
[11:39] <dyllan> kklimonda: killed nm-applet from shell and started it again as root with the following information: "old state indicates that this was not a disconnect 0" (Differs from previous error that i recall.)
[11:39] <kklimonda> dyllan: not as root
[11:39] <linuxrevolution> guys do you really believe in Change is coming??
[11:39] <kklimonda> dyllan: nm-applet is run as your user
[11:39] <dyllan> bbordwell: good idea
[11:39] <dyllan> kklimonda: of course.
[11:40] <bbordwell> dyllan, I always do fresh installs, seems to be less buggy
[11:40] <dyllan> kklimonda: Ok ran from user, same output as above with additional info pertaining to my gsm connection "WARNING **: Tried to set depricated property gsm/band"
[11:41] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, what are you talking about?
[11:41] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: about ubuntu 10.04
[11:41] <dyllan> kklimonda: However still no icon for the applet on my panel.
[11:41] <dyllan> I have uninstalled/ resinstalled it numerous times just fyi.
[11:42] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, oh the ubuntu website...
[11:42] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: ya
[11:42] <kklimonda> linuxrevolution: no, it's too early for the change
[11:42] <conb123> Does beta 2 release tomorrow?
[11:42] <kklimonda> conb123: yes
[11:42] <linuxrevolution> kklimonda: agree
[11:43] <conb123> kklimonda:thanks
[11:43] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, most likely talking about the new theme/logos and such
[11:43] <dyllan> bbordwell: Just a mission to do a fresh install, save docs/ files/ profiles etc.. . everything else is working OK, just the network manager applet, and i have googled my ass off to no avail :(
[11:44] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: you know? i'm a really ubuntu lover but I think ubuntu must look at Fedora a bit
[11:44] <kklimonda> linuxrevolution: why?
[11:45] <linuxrevolution> kklimonda: I see some important change in Fedora that isn't in ubuntu
[11:45] <linuxrevolution> kklimonda: for example package downloading
[11:45] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, fedora is always running the latest packages
[11:45] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: ya
[11:45] <kklimonda> linuxrevolution: what do you mean ?
[11:45] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, not know for being the most stable though...
[11:46] <linuxrevolution> kklimonda: in ubuntu when there is an update you have to download whole of the packages again butin fedora
[11:46] <linuxrevolution> kklimonda: you just download updated parts
[11:46] <conb123> linuxrevolution: Yes by having the very latest packages you sacrifice support for proprietary drivers etc
[11:47] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: ya that's not a good reason too be stable
[11:47] <kklimonda> linuxrevolution: it's a minor difference at best
[11:48] <linuxrevolution> kklimonda: I think ubuntu can do something like this so easily
[11:48] <kklimonda> linuxrevolution: not easily
[11:48] <linuxrevolution> kklimonda: but it can do
[11:48] <kklimonda> linuxrevolution: sure - you interested in helping us out?
[11:48] <conb123> lol
[11:49] <linuxrevolution> kklimonda: anybody must be interested in it
[11:49] <linuxrevolution> kklimonda: for example zsync make this for ISO
[11:49] <kklimonda> linuxrevolution: a lot of people are interested in it but when it comes to actually doing some work they all just disappear
[11:49] <linuxrevolution> kklimonda: me not
[11:50] <linuxrevolution> kklimonda: even reporting a bug is a help
[11:50] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, A well reported bug :)
[11:51] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: of course you are right
[11:51] <conb123> What is that package from the multiverse called? The one that contains loads of packages to support restricted formats.
[11:51] <conb123> I always forget
[11:51] <kklimonda> conb123: ubuntu-restricted-extras or something like that?
[11:52] <conb123> That's the one thank you very much
[11:52] <arand> apt-sync was on the whiteboard for a while, kinda dissapeared since.
[11:52] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, I once came across a bug report and its entire contents was "gdm is broke"
[11:52] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: hehehe just it?
[11:53] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, yep marked it as incomplete asked for more info but the person never responded
[11:54] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: unfortunately!
[11:57] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: after releasing BETA 2 you suggest a fresh install or... ?
[11:58] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, you are not running lucid now?
[11:58] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: i do
[11:58] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: beta 1
[11:58] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, no do not do a fresh install
[11:58] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: ok
[11:59] <mungojerry> anyone having trouble adding the nvidia restricted drivers from the ubuntu hardware drivers menu? keeps crashing on me
[12:00] <mungojerry> running lucid beta 1
[12:00] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, is quadrapassel working for you?
[12:01] <AbortD> is there a list of bugs that will be fixed in beta 2 by any chance?
[12:01] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: yes
[12:02] <bbordwell> AbortD, would that be useful to you?
[12:02] <AbortD> yeah
[12:02] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, hmm it won't even open for me
[12:02] <kklimonda> AbortD: not really - you can get a list of bugs milestoned for beta-2 though
[12:02] <kklimonda> AbortD: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-10.04-beta-2
[12:02] <bbordwell> AbortD, haha I just cant think of how it would be
[12:03] <linuxrevolution> bbordwell: but I can play it well , what's the error when run in terminal ?
[12:03] <kklimonda> AbortD: this is a list of bugs important enough to commit canonical resources to fix before beta-2 release
[12:03] <bbordwell> linuxrevolution, failed to create drawable
[12:03] <bbordwell> Failed to initialise clutter: Unable to select the newly created GLX context
[12:03] <yofel> mungojerry: have you installed all updates? And does it crash or tell you that it failed?
[12:04] <mungojerry> crashes & fails with a crash report - just wondering if it was a known issue, or i will report it
[12:04] <AbortD> bbordwell, well i would like to sift through it so i can see if bugs will be fixed that i have experienced
[12:04] <AbortD> thanks kklimonda
[12:04] <yofel> mungojerry: if you have installed all updates, report it
[12:04] <mungojerry> yofel, ok
[12:05] <bbordwell> AbortD, oh are you not running lucid now?
[12:05] <AbortD> i am beta 1
[12:05] <bbordwell> AbortD, you do not update your system?
[12:05] <AbortD> i did yesterday
[12:05] <bbordwell> AbortD, then you are running beta2
[12:05] <AbortD> or the day before
[12:05] <kklimonda> AbortD: well, to check that you have to actually report bugs
[12:05] <AbortD> beta2 is out?
[12:05] <AbortD> i do
[12:06] <kklimonda> AbortD: or check whole launchpad if they were already reported
[12:06] <AbortD> well i have tried
[12:06] <bbordwell> AbortD, no, but it is in package freeze now so if you system is up to date you are running beta2
[12:15] <The_Toxic_Mite> Hello everyone
[12:16] <bbordwell> The_Toxic_Mite, helo
[12:19] <dyllan> exit
[12:30] <pshr> Now So I have nvidia and I managed after buring my hands lot many times.. Should I consider Upgrading / Marking All upgrades or does any one have any suggestions on what to do ?
[12:31] <chandru_in> I have a compaq laptop but I'm unable to use its external speakers for audio
[12:32] <chandru_in> I tried the adding options snd-hda-intel model=mobile to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf but didn't help
[12:32] <chandru_in> What else do I need to do to fix it?
[12:46] <boxocide> hey guys, have any of you had the same problem as me with Google Chrome on Ubuntu Lucid Lynx? The problem is when you install the package, after you shutdown or restart its no longer installed?
[12:50] <eoke> #join #arduino
[12:51] <arand> boxocide: I can't reproduce that... seems like something very weird going on..
[12:53] <boxocide> yes
[12:53] <boxocide> google chrome 64 bit ubuntu lucid lynx
[12:53] <boxocide> installed it with the .deb package manager and under my "Internet" there is no google chrome icon
[12:54] <boxocide> i searched my synaptic package manager and it says it is installed but there is no shortcut icon
[12:54] <arvind_khadri> restart X and see
[12:55] <boxocide> what do you mean? i logged off, logged back in, and i even shutdown/restart my system
[12:55] <bazhang> !find seamonkey2
[12:55] <arvind_khadri> press Alt+f2 and see if you can run it
[12:59] <boxocide> what is the command to run chrome in it?
[13:01] <IdleOne> opt/google/chrome/google-chrome %U
[13:36] <liam> i need assistance to file a bug
[13:37] <liam> well 3
[13:38] <kklimonda> !reporting
[13:38] <kklimonda> !bug
[13:38] <kklimonda> liam: ^
[13:46] <Pici> liam: if you need any more help just ask (or ask in #ubuntu-bugs, they're very helpful)
[13:52] <liam> Pici, thanks
[14:02] <kwtm> Hi.  Is Lucid Beta1 or Beta2 available as a torrent?  And if I install it, will it auto-upgrade to the Final Release with the usual apt-get upgrade commands?
[14:02] <kwtm> I'll be visiting family mid-Apr to mid-May, and would love to show off Ubuntu on my laptop, but I want to do it with Lucid (I have Hardy right now).
[14:04] <cirwin> I was attempting an upgrade using `update-manager -d`, but it seems that X failed while configuring packages, then froze while trying to restart gdm (probably due to unconfigured packages). Is there any way to resume the update-manager process?
[14:05] <mvo> cirwin: if the machine is still running, the upgrader is in /tmp, you can run it from there again
[14:05] <yofel> kwtm: the beta2 images should be available as torrents when they are released tomorrow
[14:05] <mvo> cirwin: it does support text mode
[14:05] <mvo> cirwin: could you please file a bug with all the logs attached?
[14:05] <mvo> cirwin: logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade/* ?
[14:05] <yofel> kwtm: but you can just get a daily image (http or zsync) today though, there won't change much
[14:06] <cirwin> mvo it is not still running.
[14:06] <yofel> kwtm: and you can just update to the final if you have the beta installed, no need to upgrade or reinstall
[14:06] <mvo> cirwin: the recovery mode also has a "fix package" option
[14:07] <Vigo> mve: Is that the 'fix' for fglrx or older Radeon cards?
[14:07] <cirwin> mvo, I could do it with dpkg, I just knew that update-manager does more foo than that. Didn't want to miss out.
[14:07] <kwtm> yofel: Wonderful.  I'll install it on a separate partition tomorrow.  I'll only have spotty Internet access by the time the RC1 comes out, unfortunately.
[14:09] <mvo> cirwin: it does do a bit more, like removing obsolete packages and auto-removable ones, but if you are fluent with synpatic/apt/dpkg you can just do that yourself e.g. with the synaptic obsoeletes and auto-removable status in synaptic
[14:09] <mvo> cirwin: but please send the logs so that the failure can be analyized
[14:10] <cirwin> mvo, will do. `ubuntu-bug update-manager`?
[14:10] <mvo> cirwin: that should work
[14:12] <Vigo> I upgraded, like the site said, Alt-F2, this is not correct, yet, I sent all crash and bug reports to Launchpad, re-installing now.
[14:28] <Jesper84> Hi. Are any of you using eee-control in Lucid beta1 ?
[14:29]  * holstein installed eee-applet
[14:29] <holstein> on an older 900
[14:30] <Jesper84> Ok. I have an 1005HA, and I really like the eee-control applet, but I'm having trouble getting it to work in Lucid
[14:32] <mrenouf> have there been any reports of spontaneous poweroff/reboot (kernel related?) if not it's likely hardware related but I *just* upgraded to lucid so, very suspicious ;-)
[14:39] <bjsnider> !info gstreamer-ffmpeg
[14:39] <bjsnider> !info gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10
[14:39] <bjsnider> !info gstreamer-ffmpeg0.10
[14:40] <bjsnider> !info gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[14:43] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:49] <mrenouf> Yeah, think I have a nouveau crasher on an install of Lucid from yesterday
[14:49] <mrenouf> just switched to nvidia and system has been up for 10 minutes now without problems
[14:52] <muszek> hi... I'm thinking about upgrading to lucid... are there any serious reasons not to do this just yet?
[14:53] <holstein> muszek: you could always get a live CD
[14:53] <coz_> muszek,  well I am not sure how the upgrade will go... I clean installed lucid on one system here and there are still issues
[14:53] <holstein> and run it on your hardware
[14:54] <muszek> i ran a live-pendrive a week ago or so and everything seemed to be fine
[14:54] <holstein> you never know at this stage
[14:55] <holstein> but i had an upgrade go well
[14:55] <muszek> I'll give it a go.  thanks for your help.
[14:55] <holstein> i did a fresh install, and an upgrade
[14:55] <holstein> on an EEEpc
[14:55] <holstein> i always prefer the fresh install
[14:56] <holstein> but the upgrade worked fine
[14:56] <holstein> it took a LONG time
[14:56] <Korcia> hi, can anybody tell me how come my pc used to boot in 13 seconds in  jaunty and now in lucid takes 39 seconds?
[14:57] <yofel> Korcia: use bootchart and check where it hangs
[14:57] <yofel> !bootchart | Korcia
[14:57] <Korcia> I used bootchart already
[14:58] <joaopinto> so you are in a better position to tell instead of asking :P
[14:58] <Korcia> in jaunty I had 2 DB: postgres and mysql, 2 webserver: apache2 and lighttpd, in ludic is a fresh installation with nothing except the defaults programs
[14:58] <yofel> so? got a bootchart from it? as we don't know your setup we can only gues what's wrong
[14:59] <yofel> *guess
[14:59] <Korcia> in jaunty I used LVM which add overhead
[14:59] <yofel> Korcia: can you pastebin your latest graph?
[14:59] <Korcia> where can I publish the bootchart so you can see it?
[14:59] <yofel> !paste
[15:00] <Korcia> ok, thanks, I am going to paste it
[15:03] <Korcia> http://imagebin.org/92051
[15:04] <MTecknology> Do any of you know if you can let a random user sign up for an announcement only group in google apps?
[15:04] <yofel> Korcia: hm... you could try to disable the plymouth splash screen and see if that helps, and you have a fsck run in there that takes time
[15:05] <Korcia> even thought in the bootchart the date is April 1, I did it yesterday, I don't know what went wrong with the date
[15:06] <Korcia> yofel: you mean to delete splash in boot options, right?
[15:08] <yofel> that *might* help, here's my desktop bootchart with a bit lower specs than your pc as a reference: http://yofel.dyndns.org/ext/bootchart/yofel-desktop-lucid-20100407-1.png
[15:08] <yofel> but I think the fsck in your bootchart should have taken the most time, without it your boot seems to be pretty fast (17 s until X)
[15:09] <yofel> after that comes gnome startup and it seems like one postgresql process runs
[15:10] <Korcia> yes, I can see that fsck it takes almost 10 seconds, what dou you think it would be the reason?
[15:12] <yofel> not sure, we have a bunch of mountall and fsck related issues at the moment it seems, maybe check if you don't have a stale /forcefsck (?) file lying around
[15:12] <yofel> or maybe the volume doesn't get properly unmounted on shutdown, we had reports about that too which causes fsck to run on every boot
[15:13] <Korcia> maybe it is something wrong with my hard disks?
[15:14] <yofel> could be, but if it worked before you installed lucid I doubt that
[15:14] <tomek_> Witam
[15:14] <Korcia> I have to tell you that I have 3 partitions, one for /boot in ext2, one for / in ext4 and another for /home in ext4, /home is in a different hard disk
[15:15] <yofel> hm, I have / and /home seperate too and it works fine
[15:15] <tomek_> Hello anyone have a problem with NTFS configuration Tool in Lucid ?
[15:16] <yofel> the only reason my boot seems slow in the chart is mountall waiting for nfs4 for a few seconds
[15:18] <Korcia> yofel: should I try to change the frequency of disk checking?
[15:19] <yofel> Korcia: not sure, check if the chart of your next boot shows a fsck again, if not it was a routine check I guess, if you have a fsck run on *every* boot something's wrong
[15:20] <Korcia> ok, thanks a lot for your time, I am going to disable the splash and reboot, I'll be back in 5 minutes.
[15:23] <kwtm> !pastebinit
[15:24] <kwtm> ubottu: !pastbinit
[15:24] <kwtm> ubottu: !pastebinit
[15:32] <kingtiger> Anyone active?
[15:32] <ihernandez> hello!
[15:33] <ihernandez> i'm using 10.04beta1
[15:33] <ihernandez> really liking it, but i would like to know if there is a way to use thunderbird with the Indicator Applet 0.3.6
[15:33] <ihernandez> to avoid having to deal with evolution
[15:33] <kingtiger> server is as well... i was going to ask anyone opinions on some 56.k complaint modems for a PBX
[15:34] <dum> sudo apt-get install package not working from commandline.. i sit behind a http proxy server
[15:34] <ihernandez> dum, strange
[15:34] <kingtiger> @Dum: What prompt you using? Bash?
[15:34] <ihernandez> doing an export http_proxy=http://myproxy:port can help?
[15:35] <kingtiger> @ihernandez: dont know, without compiling Thunderbird yourself.
[15:35] <adalal> hey, im trying to install the fglrx, but it says SystemError: InstallArchives () failed
[15:36] <kingtiger> @adalal: via ubuntu repository or from ATI directy
[15:36] <yofel> dum: I think in 'man apt.conf' it's explained how to set apt up to use proxy settings
[15:37] <ihernandez> kingtiger, should be easier
[15:37] <Korcia> hello again
[15:37] <adalal> kingtiger: from the ubuntu repository, specifically from System > Adminitration > Hardware Drivers
[15:37] <Korcia> yofel: here it is my new bootchart: http://imagebin.org/92057
[15:38] <yofel> that looks better
[15:39] <Korcia> yes, but you can see that either plymouthd or ureadahead are taking so long
[15:39] <adalal> kingtiger: ? any suggestions ?
[15:39] <dum> yofel: it says to keep using export http_proxy=" "
[15:40] <Korcia> I understand that ureadahead it is recommendable
[15:40] <dum> yofel: and i have to do that each time i open a new console.. that just doesn't seem the proper way to do things
[15:41] <kingtiger> not really, other that sudo apt-get clean and then try it again. if it fails for a second time download the driver from ATI's site, then service gdm stop and install the driver from the terminal
[15:41] <yofel> dum: add the 'export...' line to your ~/.bashrc ? And the manpage says for http: ... If no one of the above settings is specified, http_proxy environment variable will be used
[15:41] <yofel> dum: just set it up in apt.conf ?
[15:42] <dum> yofel: huh.. i had set it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[15:42] <dum> yofel: but it didn't work for me
[15:42] <dum> yofel: i still have to manually do it in each console
[15:43] <yofel> Korcia: I'm really not sure how plymouth gets loaded sry, ureadahead is boot profiling and supposed to make it faster, but for me it's just broken
[15:43] <yofel> dum: really? let me test here
[15:44] <yofel> dum: maybe it gets unset somewhere after bash.bashrc gets loaded? if I add export foo=bar in bash.bashrc it IS set in every shell I open
[15:48] <adalal> right.. kingtiger, http://paste.ubuntu.com/410576/
[15:48] <adalal> if you dont mind
[15:48] <dum> yofel: did you check by simply doing an apt-get or is there some other way of checking if its set in my console?
[15:49] <yofel> dum: I can't test proxy settings as I don't have a proxy here, but you can just run 'echo $http_proxy' that should give the contents
[15:49] <vbundi> any idea what's going on with my boot? http://imagebin.org/92060
[15:50] <kingtiger> Adalal: pm me
[15:50] <adalal> ok
[15:50] <dum> yofel: it seems fine in my console.. not sure whats up..
[15:50] <yofel> dum: argh
[15:50] <yofel> dum: I think sudo throws env vars away...
[15:51] <dum> oops.. i see
[15:51] <yofel> yes, in sudoers: Defaults        env_reset
[15:52] <yofel> so either set it in apt.conf or make an alias for sudo http_proxy=... apt-get ...'
[15:53] <dum> yofel: where is apt.conf located
[15:53] <dum> ?
[15:53] <thomc> yo if I install this beta release, will it be easy to upgrade to the final version when it is released?
[15:54] <adalal> april 30
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> thomc:  update normally and it will be updated.
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> in theory. ;)
[15:54] <yofel> dum: /etc/apt/apt.conf or split in seperate files in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[15:54] <adalal> dum: /etc/apt/apt.conf .. or somewhere there
[15:54] <thomc> Dr_Willis: ok, so I won't have to reinstall or anything?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> thomc:  i often DO a new clean install to remove all the stuff ive been beta testing.. but it shouldent be required
[15:55] <Sensiva> thomc just keep your installation updated, eventually you will endup with the final release... seamlessly
[15:55] <vbundi> any experienced bootchart readers wanna take a whack at this? http://imagebin.org/92060
[15:55] <thomc> Dr_Willis, Sensiva: ok, thanks, I'll give it a spin.
[15:55] <Sensiva> good luck
[15:56] <yofel> dum: it would be best if you just add a new file with your proxy settings... like 99proxy
[15:59] <Korcia> yofel: I think, I might be wrong, that people that we have installed lucid since alpha1 or alpha2 with all the upgrades that we have done the boot has become heavily fragmented, so unreadahead takes a while to put everything in ram
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> every so often while testing the betas i will do a total clean install anyway. just to  keep things tidy.
[16:01] <dum> yofel:  do you know where can i add a start up script in ubuntu.. i would like to run a script each time my PC starts up
[16:01] <mrenouf> yofel, /etc/init.d/rc.local
[16:02] <yofel> dum: well, if it's a simple command just add it to /etc/rc.local
[16:02] <mrenouf> this is #ubuntu+1 ?
[16:02] <yofel> mrenouf: wrong, that's the script that runs rc.local, not the file itself
[16:02] <yofel> mrenouf: it is
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> Yes it is ubuntu +1
[16:03] <mrenouf> yofel, my bad
[16:03] <yofel> dum: if you need the script to run at a specific time you should create an init script for it in /etc/init
[16:04] <yofel> dum: rc.local should be run when everything else is already started
[16:05] <Korcia> vbundi: one problem in your bootchart is the disk throughput
[16:06] <dum> yofel:  i want it to run soon after booting just to set network interface parameters.. and run an applicaiton i wrote
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> appliocation with out a gui = rc.local
[16:07] <vbundi> Korcia: what would explain the poor disk throughput? it's not a very old laptop, the hard drive is 7200rpm sata
[16:08] <Korcia> vbundi:  I have no idea, I have also a 7200rpm sata but my disk throughput is 121 MB/s
[16:09] <vbundi> Korcia: yes but not a laptop right
[16:09] <Korcia> vbundi: that's right, mine is a desktop
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. would a 7200rpm desktop hd be faster then a laptop hd? ive never really noticed.
[16:09] <yofel> dum: well, try it with rc.local first
[16:10] <vbundi> Dr_Willis: not sure, was just mentioning it
[16:10] <vbundi> Korcia: but if you look at the bootchart itself it looks really.... 'long'
[16:10] <vbundi> Korcia: err tall..
[16:10] <Korcia> I agree with Dr_Willis, there should not be any differences
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> laptop hd is smaller.. but for the same rpm.. Hmm.. not sure if it would be faster.. or slower..
[16:11] <vbundi> Korcia: wondering if it's because it's using a PAE kernel... it chose it automatically on an update
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> desktop hd could have more platters.. making reads faster..
[16:12] <yofel> I think rpms don't matter as much as the place that data is located at on the disk...
[16:12] <yofel> so you won't notica much of a difference between 2.5" and 3.5" disks I think
[16:13] <Korcia> so  fragmentation could be one of the reasons
[16:13] <vbundi> data placement eh.. hmm wondering if the fact that this system is dual boot is the issue
[16:14] <vbundi> my other laptop seems to boot faster and it's not dual boot
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> my other laptop is a netbook.. so thats not a good comparison :)
[16:15] <zekoZeko> anyone knows how pulseaudio starts in Karmic? It doesn't start automatically on my laptop, i have to run pulseaudio --daemon from terminal and then it's OK. It's a pain doing it on every login.
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> should be part of the gnome-session i would imagine.
[16:15] <vbundi> netbook != laptop ;P
[16:15] <yofel> dunno, afaik sectors are mapped by the disk to other places anyway to optimise reading a bit, so it could get slower the more data you have on the disk
[16:16] <vbundi> I don't think EXT disks really 'fragment' the way that fat/ntfs ones do though
[16:16] <Korcia> there must be something, I do not know, I have an 8 years old toshiba laptod, a celeron, and boots up in half time that my core Quad desktop
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> ntfs/vfat fragment if you look at them funny.. or do somthing 'weird'; like.. copy a single file to a totally empty hd...
[16:17] <Korcia> both with lucid
[16:17] <yofel> Dr_Willis: haha, true...
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> copied a 5 gb file to a empty hd once.. checked defrag tools... it was allready fraggmented...
[16:18] <zekoZeko> err, i meant Lucid, i upgraded from Karmic and now pulseaudio doesn't start. I'll have a look at gnome-session config.
[16:18] <yofel> well, thanks to extends fragmentation is even lower with ext4 than it was with ext3
[16:19] <yofel> zekoZeko: I do remember a few others having the same issues, but I don't know how to solve it
[16:25] <zekoZeko> yofel: it's a minor nuisance really... my experience with these is that filing a bug report is useless... it only gets closed after a year or so for "no activity" :)
[16:26] <yofel> zekoZeko: heh, the audio team is busy. You could contact crimsun in here later, he's from the audio team, but should be asleep right now
[16:30] <vbundi> aha... I uninstalled the PAE kernel and switched to generic and I'm booting in 27 seconds
[16:31] <Korcia> does anybody know what the new "radical" changes would be in 10.10?
[16:31] <Vigo> Hello, I am back, install went perfect.
[16:31] <Korcia> vbundi: congratulations
[16:32] <vbundi> my disk speed is still 50MB/s so that's another story
[16:32] <Pici> Korcia: Once UDS happens we'll have a better idea of what to expect in 10.10
[16:32] <vbundi> I think it might be the disk itself...
[16:32] <Pici> !uds
[16:33] <charlie-tca> Korcia: the last radical changes were fiesty 6.10, and I never did get it to run on my system
[16:34] <arthurlu> hi, i'm having trouble getting a preseed to work with the new installer
[16:34] <arthurlu> I believe the partition recipe is failling
[16:34] <Vigo> This is nice, I noticed some BSD things installed, do I need to install SELinux or is it redundant/overkill for a simple desktop?
[16:34] <arthurlu> it used to work on 9.04, now I get a "Missing filesystem.size." from ubiquity
[16:35] <arthurlu> is it a bug or am I coding the preseed wrong ?
[16:35] <arthurlu> if my preseed is wrong can you direct me towards uptodate documentation ?
[16:36] <scott_ino2> Ughh.... They changed GUFW sheild so that it looks like an italian flag... what's with that?
[16:36] <vbundi> after installing the proprietary nvidia driver, the plymouth splash screen is really low resolution and low color... anyone else experience this?
[16:37] <vbundi> nm think I've found a fix online here
[16:38] <Vigo> vbundi: I had to look that up also.
[16:38] <ZykoticK9> vbundi, business as usual for proprietary nvidia and plymouth i'm affraid -- we only recently got a graphical plymouth, it's been text-plymouth for most of Luicd development
[16:38] <vbundi> lol
[16:39] <vbundi> I would normally prefer text.... but the new splash is really nice looking so I'm on the fence ;)
[16:39] <scott_ino2> Correction on gufw, it changes colors depending on your configuration so the colors are indicators... heh. nice
[16:40] <ZykoticK9> vbundi, until a week or so ago - this is all us nvidia proprietary users got to see http://imagebin.org/92066
[16:40] <Vigo> scott_ino2: That is sweet.
[16:41] <nobuto> Lucid daily build has no "safe graphics mode" option on boot. Is there any document which explains why it was removed?
[16:42] <vbundi> ZykoticK9: awesome ;D
[16:48] <vbundi> doh, I hate it when I go through and change a bunch of settings --- on the wrong computer
[16:49] <Pici> I hate when that happens.
[16:51] <scott_ino2> Oh man... OpenOffice3.2 has the oracle logo now.... that really threw me off
[16:51] <scott_ino2> forgot about that little guy ;)
[16:51] <Vigo> Is the bottom Panel always scattered.borked when moved to another side?
[16:52] <scott_ino2> Vigo I can check for you ;)
[16:52] <scott_ino2> and yes
[16:52] <scott_ino2> definitely glitched
[16:53] <Vigo> scott_ino2: Thank you, I used Clearbooks or something to resolve it, but that is not a fix.
[16:53] <scott_ino2> no it's really not, this is already reported I'm guessing?
[16:54] <Vigo> On the default install it has always been scattered, since Aplhas
[16:54] <Vigo> And, yes, it is on Launchpad, I would have to log in and look for it again.
[16:55] <Vigo> What is this version up to now?
[16:56] <alvin> Is there a new policy about using UUID for LVM volumes in /etc/fstab in Lucid?
[16:58] <Vigo> I will run with this now, push it to the limits and see what occurs, having a large time, Thank you.
[17:00] <nobuto> self reply: I have found why safe graphics mode removed here. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/525966/comments/1
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> i noticed vga16fb always getting loaded.. i normally always disable the frameabuffer stuff. But i guess a 'pretty boot sequence' trumps that.
[17:02] <vbundi> Vigo: no success after doing the fix located here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1446132
[17:02] <vbundi> Vigo: did you follow anything different?
[17:02] <mawst> How do I get sun java in Lucid?
[17:03] <ZykoticK9> mawst, if you are looking for Sun java - just add the Partner repo
[17:04] <bipolar> Has anyone sucessfuly used a gsm network card (I have a sierra wireless 885) with knetworkmanager?
[17:04] <bipolar> mawst: does openjdk not work for you?
[17:04] <mawst> IT works for some things.
[17:05] <bipolar> mawst: since openjdk is java6, perhaps what's not working requires an older version. in that case the older sun java is the only way to go. :(
[17:06] <yofel> mawst: please don't remember to make sure there's a report filed for your bug in openjdk before you switch to sun
[17:06] <yofel> bipolar: we only have java 6 in lucid, sun or not
[17:06] <mawst> jdownloader is completely unreadable.
[17:07] <bipolar> yofel: ouch.
[17:07] <bipolar> yofel: I suppose those with that kind of issue can always do a manual install
[17:07] <Korcia> mawst: I have jdownloader and works perfectly with openjkd except that I have to exit through the menu
[17:07] <yofel> mawst: the gui? that might be something gtk/swt or theme related though
[17:07] <yofel> well, have to go, bbl
[17:10] <Korcia> the truth is jdownloader worked almost smoothly with openjdk in jaunty, I have not tried in  lucid but I will try this evening
[17:11] <nawst2> heh
[17:11] <mawst> Korcia: odd.
[17:11] <mawst> I might do a reinstall or delete config info then
[17:12] <_James_> hey
[17:12] <_James_> i installed ubuntu 10.04 beta and now it won't boot due to a missing file in /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[17:12] <_James_> i guess i need to correct the UUID for my hdd in grub
[17:12] <_James_> but how do i do that since there's no menu.lst
[17:12] <mawst> That seems to have fixed it.
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> Thats odd that it would mess up _James_
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | James147
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | _James_
[17:13] <_James_> Dr_Willis: well i installed it via the live CD and it all went well, i just cant boot into it
[17:13] <mawst> Never did get my splash working for grub2 I should read that page. :D
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> Ive never heard of a missing file in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[17:13] <_James_> thats another thing, i couldn't run anything from the live cd without skipping the splash (pressing esc)
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> You could boot live cd, chroot in, and try to reinstall grub
[17:14] <_James_> well thats what im trying to do now
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> actyally you may want to chroot in  and update/upgrade then try to reinstall grub.
[17:14] <_James_> but i assumed i'd have to correct the UUID
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> the 'update-grub' command should do that automatically
[17:15] <_James_> hmm
[17:16] <mawst> Korcia: Tucan would be better if they'd tweak the ui a little and add more services. TOo bad it doesn't seem like they're in a hurry to support new sites.
[17:16] <mawst> Takes much less memory to run tucan than a java app.
[17:17] <_James_> Dr_Willis: grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[17:17] <Korcia> mawst: I also use Tucan, I like it but the developers don't have upgraded the version since a year or more
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> _James_:  are you on a live cd now?
[17:18] <_James_> yes
[17:18] <_James_> i mounted the drive containing the installation and chrooted to it
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> I would guess you missed some step mentined in the 'fix grub' wiki guides.
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> I recall some way to reinstall it without chrooting. by proper options to update-grub. or grub-install.. but ive not done that in weeks
[17:19] <_James_> considering i wasn't following any guide, just general knowledge..
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> you dont have /dev/ setup in the chroot then.  its seing an empty /dev/ dir
[17:20] <mawst> Weird. I just deleted all my config data... while jdownloader was updating it looked ok after the update, fonts are unreadable again
[17:20] <ZykoticK9> _James_, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 about steps for chrooting
[17:21] <_James_> im reading that now
[17:21] <_James_> dr_willis: I gathered that
[17:24] <_James_> http://pastebin.com/DgZ1NPnf
[17:25] <_James_> cannot find list of partitions?
[17:25] <_James_> yay more errors
[17:25] <cnd> in the ubuntu netbook edition, how do you manage the panel? there isn't any extra space available because of the title bar of the current window...
[17:26] <Korcia> mawst: I think it can be fixed editing fontconfig.properties
[17:27] <Korcia> it is under /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/jre/lib
[17:27] <mawst> I changed themes and language around a couple times that seems to have corrected it.
[17:28] <mawst> I don't have a tray icon though.
[17:28] <mawst> That's strange,.
[17:30] <mawst> Just a note... installed some extra cursor-themes... When I switched to crystal now when I select another one it won't switch back.
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> cnd:  you can unlock the panel applets and move them around a bit i recall.
[17:30] <mawst> Dunno if anyone is aware of that
[17:31] <cnd> Dr_Willis: I found the solution: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuNetbookEdition/ConvertGnomeSession
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> mawst:  ive seen it where cursor them4es dont change on the fly in thepast. Had to log out/back in.
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> mawst:  ive also noticed some times they halfway change.. some new apps show the new cursors.. and allready running apps showed the old..
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> it was very confuseing.. :)
[17:31] <mawst> Yeah going to restart x here see if that does it
[17:31] <muszek> hi... i'm testing lucid on my laptop and the sound is not working... would someone please help me troubleshoot it?
[17:31] <mawst> brb
[17:32] <muszek> don't want to file a non-descriptive bug
[17:32] <muszek> it's creative sound blaster mp3+, an external usb soundcard
[17:33] <ninjai> anybody know if its still possible to have ubuntu one client mount in the places menu? It did this for me in 9.10 now it just opens my browser :(
[17:33] <muszek> been using it since feisty with varying luck.  currently (in 9.10) it works
[17:34] <kklimonda> muszek: use ubuntu-bug audio
[17:35] <muszek> kklimonda, thanks
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-netbook
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-netbook-remix
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. so the names been changed from "ubuntu netbook remix' to just 'Ubuntu netbook' now eh?
[17:39] <muszek> hmmm... this is an auto-generated title for a bug report: "[USB-Audio - Sound Blaster MP3+] pactl stat failed to find default card."  I have blacklisted a built-in's card driver in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf (audio out jack physically broken).  Maybe I should just run some command to assign the usb card as a default one?
[17:41] <atrus> muszek: you can select which device you want sound to go to in the volume control dialog
[17:42] <bindaas> hi,i can't find initlocation command for postgresql,what package do i need to install? ,i am using postgres-8.4 and ubuntu 10.04 beta
[17:43] <muszek> atrus, I can see it in a "hardware" tab.  It is selected.
[17:43] <atrus> muszek: then afaik, that should be the device sound goes to.
[17:44] <muszek> atrus, the input/output tabs don't have a correct content though
[17:44] <muszek> in output, there's only a "dummy output" option.
[17:45] <muszek> On my 9.10 install, the same device (and settings for it) is used.
[17:45] <muszek> and it works
[17:46] <atrus> sorry, that's beyond what i know about it.
[17:46] <Korcia> bindaas: in postgres 8.4 there in no initlocation
[17:47] <Korcia> bindaas: in official docs -> Remove initlocation; not needed anymore
[17:47] <nevoeiro> hello. installed 10.04 beta 1 in my eeepc 1000he and at start everything was working fine. but now, after making the usual updates, can't connect to wireless. it's always asking for authentication and never connects... help? :(
[17:49] <nevoeiro> is this a known bug...?
[17:50] <bindaas> Korcia: just noticed it,thank you !
[17:50] <ninjai> nobody know about my problem with ubuntu one?
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> ninjai:  thers alwyas #ubuntu-one
[18:01] <ninjai> dr_willis: thanks!
[18:25] <ermc77> Anyone else in here having trouble getting there their wifi card to recognize neworks?
[18:26] <adalal> anyone aware as to why after using the official ati installer, the computer complains about no dri drivers?
[18:27] <adalal> bump?
[18:29] <ermc77> skip and hump?
[18:30] <nemo> http://jboriss.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/that-pesky-design-process/
[18:31] <QueenZ> hey, what do you think about GNOME 3.0?
[18:31] <ninjai> ermc77: only in kubuntu 10.04 beta.  works fine in 10.04 ubuntu.  what wireless card?
[18:31] <ermc77> I think it's fine so far. Except my wifi doesn't work.
[18:31] <ermc77> It's a REaltek
[18:43] <bjsnider> !find npapi.h
[18:44] <Nalf> Where can I look for updated information on the proprietary ATI drivers?
[18:45] <QueenZ> have you seen this Ubuntu 10.04 fail?
[18:45] <QueenZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOF9ftS_LD4
[18:51] <Vigo> This is a fun system.
[18:57] <avis> i noticed apache was a requirement for personal file sharing.  would that mean those thing could be shared over the WAN ?
[18:59] <bjsnider> !find vector
[19:02] <alvin> just tested it. Lucid converts your LVM fstab entries to UUID
[19:12] <ermc77> So has anyone managed to get a Realtek wifi card to work?
[19:15] <nonameNN> !realtek
[19:16] <nonameNN> !realtek | ermc77
[19:18] <sharky> I have 2 Realtek card  they like .33 and .34 kernels best
[19:18] <ermc77> thank you.
[19:19] <ermc77> And I just bought a new toshba laptop..
[19:19] <sharky>  i had problems on .32
[19:21] <nonameNN> does any one know if lucid is coming out with kernel 2.6.34?
[19:21] <Pici> Er, no.
[19:22] <Pici> We're on 2.6.32 now and its very very unlikely that we'll ship with anything higher than that.
[19:24] <nonameNN> i would love to see 2.6.33.2 at least...
[19:26] <alvin> why?
[19:26] <nonameNN> there are some good upgrades for some hardware on 2.6.33 plus its stable...
[19:27] <nonameNN> sabayon guys are using it... im using it on other pcs and its ok...
[19:28] <avis> any way to know if this device is working ?  i dont have backports or proposed enabled Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)  when i enable bluetooth i see no icon
[19:29] <avis> i suppose i could not enable backports if it interferes with ubuntu-audio-dev
[19:31] <avis> the bluetooth app was disabled in start up.  i'm not sure if it'll stay enabled though
[19:32] <avis> everytime i click on bluetooth icon it says bluetooth is disabled.  thats after i've enabled it
[19:32] <yofel> nonameNN: it might be stable for you but there are quite a few regressions in 2.6.33 in other places, and I think the kernel team backported quite a bit from 33 to 32, like the new drm for nouveau
[19:32] <avis> if i click it once, it says bluetooth enabled
[19:32] <Nece228> hey, anybody has problem with evince that it always forgets its settings after closing it
[19:32] <Nece228> i mean, open document, disable sidebar, close evince and open different document
[19:32] <Nece228> then sidebar is back
[19:33] <yofel> nonameNN: if there's something more specific you have questions about you could ask the kernel team in #ubuntu-kernel
[19:36] <Nece228> please, anyone can test?
[19:37] <avis> evince works fine to me it doesn't auto open last document but it remembers last document i opened
[19:38] <yofel> Nece228: you're right, checked if ther's a bug report about it already?
[19:39] <avis> apparently bluetooth icon in my systray says its enabled if i go to bluetooth preferences i see nothing but the "turn on bluetooth" large box it appears it doesn't know its already enabled, and i'd hope to have gui to add a device to it
[19:41] <Nece228> heres a bug:
[19:41] <Nece228> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606090
[19:42] <avis> does one enable bluetooth devices in lucid by editing certain files manually ?  i'll try and find a bluetooth mouse
[19:42] <Nece228> it says that its caused by a metadata system regression
[19:42] <Nece228> but developer also says that he will fix this only when gnome migrates to gsettings
[19:43] <Nece228> but isnt it planned for gnome 3.0
[19:43] <Nece228> so now i will have to wait at least 6 months  :-(
[19:44] <Nece228> this bug annoys me so much that im going to leave gnome
[19:46] <jbwiv> is anyone successfully running Lucid on a GeForce 9800 GT?
[19:46] <billybigrigger> jbwiv, yup
[19:47] <billybigrigger> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GTX+] (rev a2)
[19:47] <billybigrigger> nvidia driver version 195.36.15
[19:48] <jbwiv> billybigrigger, did you fresh install or upgrade?
[19:49] <jbwiv> and are you running the official beta or a daily build?
[19:51] <billybigrigger> there's no difference in official beta or daily build
[19:51] <billybigrigger> it's all the same packages my friend :)
[19:52] <videorechner> hi, pushing  alt + F2 makes plymouth disappear, is there a combination, that shows the boot messages?
[19:52] <billybigrigger> and to be honest, i'm %80 sure this was an upgrade from lucid
[19:52] <billybigrigger> i know my laptop was a fresh install for sure
[20:00] <avis> i have a bluetooth mouse that i'd like to connect to lucid can anyone direct me in the formal manner in which it should be set up ?
[20:01] <avis> i'm not sure if i need to buy another adaptor, or if configuration is only done through cli
[20:02] <avis> my adaptor came from hong kong, in startup programs bluetooth is selected and lsusb see's the device
[20:03] <avis> my device is now also set discoverable, bluetooth is shown as "on" but if i select prefernces, i just get a dialog box asking me if i want to enable bluetooth
[20:06] <billybigrigger> anyone know the ubuntu mozilla channel?
[20:06] <pionar> ok, here's the situation: I just upgraded to 10.04 beta 1 today.  I rebooted, everything started fine, then my screen goes blank and then this displays: "Could not write bytes: broken pipe".  It flashes for three or for times to this written on the screen and a black screen, then the monitor shuts off, but the computer is still running.  Any suggestions?
[20:09] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[20:10] <avis> BUGabundo, would you happen to know of the correct manner in which i can check if mu bluetooth adaptor is supported under lucid ?
[20:10] <BUGabundo> not really
[20:10] <avis> np
[20:10] <pionar> anyone?
[20:10] <BUGabundo> asac should know. ask him in #ubuntu-mozillateam
[20:10] <avis> seems lsusb see's it, but i can't get the GUI to detect discoverable devices
[20:10] <avis> ok
[20:11] <BUGabundo> avis: humm
[20:11] <BUGabundo> gnome-bt ?
[20:11] <BUGabundo> or bt-applet ?
[20:11] <BUGabundo> something like that
[20:11] <pionar> ok, here's the situation: I just upgraded to 10.04 beta 1 today.  I rebooted, everything started fine, then my screen goes blank and then this displays: "Could not write bytes: broken pipe".  It flashes for three or for times to this written on the screen and a black screen, then the monitor shuts off, but the computer is still running.  Any suggestions?
[20:12] <avis> BUGabundo, i'll try those thank you very much
[20:13] <billybigrigger> pionar, that broken pipe message sounds familiar to some broken pipe messages i had earlier with plymouth when i would shutdown
[20:13] <billybigrigger> pionar, not sure if that's your problem though
[20:13] <billybigrigger> BUGabundo, you just back from vacation?
[20:13] <BUGabundo> nope
[20:13] <BUGabundo> just came home from a trip
[20:13] <BUGabundo> still in hollidays
[20:13] <BUGabundo> now that you mention it
[20:13] <billybigrigger> avis, bluetooth-agent       bluetooth-applet      bluetoothd            bluetooth-properties  bluetooth-sendto      bluetooth-wizard
[20:13] <billybigrigger> any of those might be a good start
[20:14] <billybigrigger> BUGa_vacations, haha are you on vacation or at home?
[20:14] <BUGa_vacations> I'll upload my photos from today in a few minutes
[20:14] <BUGa_vacations> if you want to check them out billybigrigger
[20:14] <pionar> billybigrigger thanks, i'll look into that
[20:14] <billybigrigger> BUGa_vacations, where are you? and ya i'll check them out
[20:15] <avis> billybigrigger, bluetooth wizard look like what i needed it wasn't very apparent to the bluetooth system tray though
[20:15] <billybigrigger> avis, maybe you should point that out to the devs then :P
[20:15] <BUGa_vacations> billybigrigger: p.bugabundo.net
[20:15] <BUGa_vacations> my blog has them, location (and GPS) too
[20:16] <avis> billybigrigger, , i'm intimidated by launchpad.  i never know what information i should report.  is there a user online i can make aware of the issue -- btw, it worked great.  indeed my hong kong bluetooth dongle works fine
[20:16] <pionar> billybigrigger, it's not happening when i boot up, though, I can use the system for anywhere from 15-20 mins before it happens.
[20:17] <billybigrigger> BUGa_vacations, your too easy on the throttle haha, crack that thing wide open next time your riding :P
[20:17] <BUGa_vacations> billybigrigger: I wasn't driving
[20:17] <avis> billybigrigger, btw, bluetooth-wizard was already installed on my system, no app needed, and yet it wasn't in anyway connected to the bluetooth systray icon up top
[20:17] <BUGa_vacations> I was MOUNTED in the front of it
[20:18] <BUGa_vacations> if the guy hited the brakes any faster I would be thrown in the air
[20:18] <billybigrigger> avis, sign up for the mailing lists if your intimidated by launchpad, it's a great discussion tool that dev's actually respond to
[20:18] <avis> billybigrigger, would you happen to have an email address for that mailing list ?
[20:18] <billybigrigger> avis, ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
[20:18] <avis> thank you
[20:18] <billybigrigger> search ubuntu-devel-discuss on google, and sign up
[20:19] <billybigrigger> BUGa_vacations, hahaha
[20:19] <billybigrigger> BUGa_vacations, good thing he was taking it easy then :)
[20:19] <billybigrigger> pionar, so just randomly your screen blanks in the middle of your session?
[20:20] <billybigrigger> pionar, lspci |grep VGA
[20:20] <pionar> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[20:21] <billybigrigger> BUGa_vacations, what are you using for your blog? WP? i'm trying to find out how to embed video like that on mine
[20:21] <pionar> yeah, that's what it does
[20:21] <billybigrigger> pionar, a good place to start might be the lucid forums....and start looking for intel problems, i have nvidia on the desktop and ati on my laptop, no such problems like that...
[20:22] <billybigrigger> pionar, /var/log is also a good place to start scouring
[20:22] <BUGa_vacations> billybigrigger: best of them, I've found so far: posterous.com
[20:22] <pionar> billybigrigger, thanks, i'll look into that
[20:23] <billybigrigger> pionar, more specifically /var/log/dmesg .... messages .... maybe deamon.log or debug.log aswell that's a good start, if you use nano or gedit search for your error message in those log files
[20:23] <billybigrigger> kern.log
[20:23] <billybigrigger> pionar, sorry i'm being pretty vauge but that error message isn't too helpful
[20:24] <billybigrigger> alrighty then......
[20:24] <billybigrigger> BUGa_vacations, any way you can pastebin that code snippet for your embedded video?
[20:25] <BUGa_vacations> no code
[20:26] <BUGa_vacations> doesn't work like that
[20:26] <BUGa_vacations> its all based on email
[20:26] <BUGa_vacations> I _emailed_ that video, and was converted and posted automaticly
[20:26] <billybigrigger> hmmmm
[20:26] <billybigrigger> really
[20:26] <BUGa_vacations> also, for known video sites, all you need is the link
[20:26] <billybigrigger> yeah, i have them hosted on my VPS
[20:28] <billybigrigger> BUGa_vacations, thefrozencanuck.ca there's a pic of my new bike i just picked up on sunday :)
[20:29] <billybigrigger> came across a 2 stroke 400cc last night too for $400, that bike is rank
[20:29] <avis> thank you billybigrigger sir.  your help was what i needed
[20:29] <billybigrigger> avis, no problem friend
[20:30] <billybigrigger> BUGa_vacations, you live in portugal, why are you vacationing there? :)
[20:30] <billybigrigger> i guess it's always nice to explore the backyard eh?
[20:30] <avis> that sounds like someone who had never been to a spanish speaking country :)  i had been to colombia on one occasion, i was really young, but life were was nice there in that small town my mom grew up in :)
[20:31] <avis> sorry to be off-topic
[20:31] <BUGa_vacations> billybigrigger: I don't really like traveling a lot
[20:31] <BUGa_vacations> plus, where else could I go that is better then Portugal?
[20:31] <billybigrigger> canada? :)
[20:31] <cjohnston> Does anyone use lucid on an intel i core system?
[20:32] <avis> i hear a dear friend in canada, she's sounds cold 80% of the year :)
[20:32] <avis> have
[20:32] <avis> great country though
[20:33] <avis> canada that is
[20:33] <billybigrigger> beautiful here
[20:33] <avis> sure is
[20:36] <BUGa_vacations> billybigrigger: who knows. maybe one day!
[20:36] <billybigrigger> tell ned your looking for me, he'll point you in the right direction
[20:37] <BUGa_vacations> ahahaahahah
[20:40] <billybigrigger> pionar, any luck?
[20:40] <billybigrigger> i left you some hints but i think you left too soon
 pionar, more specifically /var/log/dmesg .... messages .... maybe deamon.log or debug.log aswell that's a good start, if you use nano or gedit search for your error message in those log files
[20:41] <billybigrigger> kern.log too
[20:41] <billybigrigger> anywho...i'll see you guys later, need to go wash my bike and bust out the wrenches :)
[20:42]  * BUGa_vacations checks out billybigrigger blog
[20:42] <billybigrigger> too nice of a day to be stuck on this comfy leather chair... :P
[20:42] <pionar> i'm looking into it still, it did it again :(
[20:43] <billybigrigger> BUGa_vacations, haha my last real post was about a year ago, about this time with 9.10 was coming out :) just some random pic's n' vid's the last couple of days
[20:47] <adalal> can i get any help with install fglrx?
[20:48] <pionar> billybigrigger, it's not in any of those logs, tried syslog too, looking on the forums now
[20:55] <adalal> anyone here familiar with fglrx
[20:55] <adalal> ?
[21:06] <jbwiv> billybigrigger, ok, thanks. I had a problem doing a fresh install and I'm not entirely sure it's not related to the gfx card. that's why I asked
[21:10] <vbundi> adalal: from what I have seen, by the time people get fglrx working they are 'quite' familiar with it....
[21:11] <adalal> yeah,
[21:11] <adalal> i guess im going the hardway then
[21:11] <vbundi> it's doable though
[21:12] <vbundi> luckily ATI keeps releasing new drivers for their ubuntu customers
[21:19] <jmcantrell> where does empathy store account information? i checked gconf, but it doesn't appear to be there.
[21:22] <ubuntujenkins> has anyone managed to get amazon mp3 downloader working on 64bit lucid
[21:24] <LordKow> jmcantrell: it's probably stored in the gnome keyring, ie encrypted.
[21:25] <jmcantrell> LordKow: that would make sense. i'm trying to figure out how to backup all the empathy settings.
[21:28] <kklimonda> jmcantrell: password is stored in gnome-keyring and account informations somewhere in dotfiles.. hmm..
[21:29] <kklimonda> jmcantrell: $HOME/.mission-control/accounts/
[21:29] <LordKow> jmcantrell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8223198
[21:29] <LordKow> forums are your best friend
[21:30] <jmcantrell> LordKow: I've actually been digging through them.
[21:31] <jmcantrell> kklimonda: if i backed up that directory and tried to restore it to another machine, would i just need to reset the passwords in empathy?
[21:31] <kklimonda> jmcantrell: they would be empty I think
[21:31] <kklimonda> jmcantrell: you should get asked for a password when you try to log in..
[21:31] <jmcantrell> ok
[21:32] <mfraz74> anyone tried skype in lucid?
[21:32] <Vigo> jmcantrell: Did you locate it?
[21:32] <jmcantrell> Vigo: i did with kklimonda's help
[21:32] <Vigo> okee dokee
[21:33] <jmcantrell> can i actually backup the keyring and restore it to another machine?
[21:35] <Vigo> jmcantrell: I am uncertain on that, is it the same spin?
[21:35] <jmcantrell> Vigo: spin?
[21:36] <Vigo> jmcantrell: The same Install Media.
[21:37] <jmcantrell> Vigo: still not following you
[21:39] <Vigo> jmcantrell: You downloaded the Media, it has a Hash on it, if you used the same Media , well the IP is different and other things, I am still looking.
[21:41] <Vigo> jmcantrell: I would think it is do=able, but I am unsure if it is acceptable, still looking,,,
[21:43] <Vigo> jmcantrell: It could be a bad idea to do that,,,https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-March/212311.html
[21:43] <jmcantrell> Vigo: ok. it's not a huge deal.
[21:44] <Vigo> jmcantrell: I would hate to see you loose two systems over one key issue.
[21:45] <jmcantrell> Vigo: heh. understood
[21:52] <Vigo> I may have this screen edge figured out, let me try a re-install or install on another box and see if it works.
[21:59] <Vigo> Nope, still have to work on it,,,,
[22:12] <avis> could someone tell me what ports on my GUFW need to be opened, both TCP & UDP for samba and printer sharing to be completely functional on the lan, with a layer of protection against WAN side access.  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1506474/Screenshot-Firewall-GUFW.png
[22:12] <dvheumen> Hi, I've got this problem during the installation using the Alternative installer with disappearing partition "devices" when the 'Detecting disks' section is started. It seems that, even though the partition table still has the information, partition devices are disappearing which then causes the Partitioning section to show incorrect information and which disables the use of RAID configurations. (No it is not the bug reported on the
[22:12] <dvheumen> ubuntu beta page.)
[22:13] <dvheumen> (and the same bug occurs in Karmic btw)
[22:13] <avis> that url shows what ports i had opened the last time i tried, but often times, i had to disable my firewall completely for full functionality to and from
[22:26] <BUGa_vacations> [OT] billybigrigger: in case you want to see todays pics: http://p.bugabundo.net/tag/pontedabarca
[22:34] <grobda24> I seem to be in a trap with Lucid. It does not have a full version of Vim and installing older versions from other releases is not working. Any suggestions ?
[22:35] <Vigo> Gvim?
[22:37] <Vigo> grobda24: Have you installed or tried GVim?
[22:37] <grobda24> Vigo, no. Can I use vim @ CLI with that ?
[22:37] <Vigo> There are a few, yes you can
[22:38] <grobda24> of course, yes it's only a GUI sitting over vim. Thanks.
[22:38] <Vigo> netrik is available
[22:39] <revlar> is this channel for kubuntu 10.04 as well?
[22:39] <Vigo> grobda24: Np, I found it kinda funny at first.
[22:40] <Vigo> revlar: Did #kubuntu send you here? because I am uncertain if it is.
[22:41] <revlar> Vigo: well you could say that, the topic in there did
[22:41] <Vigo> All are welcome to join though, I guess.
[22:41] <grobda24> Hmmm, the GUI just iinstalls the same runtime as I had before.
[22:42] <Vigo> But it is pretty!
[22:42] <grobda24> Installing from previous Ubuntu releases seems to conflict with ubuntu-minimal package which can't be removed.
[22:42] <revlar> what i'm about to ask is most likely not related to the differences between kubuntu and ubuntu anyway
[22:42] <grobda24> Vigo, but it's not compiled with +visualextra so I can't use visual blockwise editing
[22:42] <Vigo> grobda24: Have you tried a side by side install?
[22:43] <revlar> i got an encrypted partition, specified in /etc/crypttab, but i'm not being asked for my passphrase during bootup
[22:43] <grobda24> what's that ?
[22:43] <revlar> anyone got an idea? yes, splash and quiet are both disabled
[22:43] <grobda24> ^^^ to Vigo
[22:43] <revlar> grobda24: sorry for interrupting ;)
[22:43] <grobda24> s'ok
[22:44] <atrus> in lucid, empathy is open, but i "closed" it, which in karmic minimzed, so you'd open the indicator menu to bring it up again. how to i restore it in lucid?
[22:44] <Vigo> revlar: It is not a boot sector , so I see no need for a prompt, then again I could be very very wrong, let me look at the documentations on that.
[22:45] <atrus> i'm assuming this is a really stupid question, and i'm going to hit myself when i figure it out...
[22:45] <Vigo> grobda24: Like do another install next to the Minimal? But I did see a Minimal option on Lucid, will have to look at logs for that...
[22:46] <KurtKraut> Is there a webpage with further details on what the Firefox' default search engine on Lucid changed from Yahoo! to Google?
[22:47] <dvheumen> I've got a problem with configuring RAID during an Alternative installation. It occurs before installing the boot sector, so I don't think it is related to the bug mentioned on the beta page
[22:47] <revlar> Vigo: well my swapped partition is mounted, the difference is though that it does not require a passphrase
[22:47] <grobda24> Vigo, well this is what I was trying to do. I'll try more versions of vim / vim-full. Maybe one will work
[22:48] <Vigo> revlar: Is SWAP encrypted?
[22:48] <revlar> Vigo: yes
[22:50] <Vigo> revlar: Is it an LVM or RAID?
[22:50] <revlar> the partition that is _not_ mounted is /home. This one does require a passphrase. It should normally be mounted during the init process.
[22:50] <revlar> neither
[22:50] <Vigo> revlar: Are they LUKS?
[22:51] <revlar> yes
[22:51] <Vigo> revlar: Found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=837416&highlight=encrypted+swap+boot , maybe some reverse engineering is needed.
[22:53] <Vigo> KurtKraut: That is sorta covered at Launchpad.
[22:54] <venger> i removed the nvidia binary drivers (--uninstall) and now everytime i startx my window borders are missing and i can fix it by running metacity --replace.  what needs to be done so it will do i automatically ?  i see gconf-editor->desktop->gnome>applications->window_manager keys are deprecated since gnome 2.12
[22:54] <atrus> is there something i'm missing on my panel? The applet that used to be an envelope icon? it used to be able to open empathy, or other indicator-supporting applications...
[22:54] <revlar> Vigo: yeah well that one still requires the partition containing the keyfile to be opened before it can be used which in turn requires that you can enter a passrphase somewhere
[22:54] <revlar> and that's exactly where i'm coming from right now :)
[22:55] <revlar> the need for a passphrase prompt
[22:55] <atrus> i have an "indicator applet", which right now just has the xrandr applet, and a "indicator applet session", which has my name, and lets me reboot/shudown, or change my status.... but i can't figure out how to actually open the applications any more, or where the icon saying i have a new message would have gone.
[22:56] <atrus> am i supposed to just go through the applications menu, instead of through the indicator now?
[22:57] <Vigo> atrus: Have you tried the System>Prefs>Main Menu?
[22:57] <atrus> Vigo: well, that lets you edit what's in the main menu...
[22:58] <Vigo> atrus: It may also show you if it is active or not, is worth a look.
[22:58] <tembrae> hi guys any news on when plymouth will be working as it should? without black screen weird shady looking ubuntu logo and broken pipelines
[22:58] <atrus> but it used to be that the indicator applet would tell you if empathy was running, or evolution, etc. i can't find that UI any more.
[22:58] <revlar> if i'm not mistaken, scripts/local-top/cryptroot from initramfs should take care of that hm
[22:58] <atrus> Vigo:  it doesn't
[22:58] <Vigo> atrus: Do you see the option to enable it?
[22:59] <atrus> Vigo: no.
[22:59] <atrus> Vigo: do you (or anyone else) have the "Mail envelope" icon on your panels somewhere?
[22:59] <Vigo> atrus: Yes I do
[22:59] <atrus> Vigo: if you right-click and click about, what do you get?
[23:00] <git__> anybody able to get Windows 7 / 2008 to run on kvm?
[23:00] <atrus> Vigo: like, what product name and version?
[23:00] <Vigo> atrus: Xchat, Connection, Sound and Evolution
[23:00] <Berzerker> anyone have a problem with ubuntu freezing on login?
[23:00] <atrus> Vigo: no, right-click
[23:00] <atrus> Vigo: that's the applet i want, but i need to know its name so I can figure out why i don't have it on my panel :)
[23:01] <Vigo> atrus: Indicator Applet 0.3.6
[23:02] <Vigo> atrus: https://launchpad.net/indicator-applet
[23:02] <atrus> Vigo: shoot. that's the applet i've got, but it doesn't have the mail envelope in it..... there must be a process missing from my session.
[23:02] <dkg> are there differences in upgrading to the beta1 from karmic to installing the beta1 "-fresh"? if not, are there differences between trying beta1 and upgrading to "real" lucid when it's announced? I mean in the long run.... not my data, security etc, as an end result, would upgrading be worse than just fresh-installing when Lucid is out?
[23:03] <atrus> Vigo: AUGhhughhh. i figured it out.
[23:04] <atrus> i have it on a vertical panel. all the content was there, but it cut off.
[23:04] <Vigo> dkg: I tried the upgrade from 9.10, it did not take well, I had the B1 downloaded, it seems to work fine now.
[23:04] <avis> dkg i recommend doing a fresh install.  if your /home is on a seperate directory, its no sweat, if not, backup and don't miss a thing
[23:04] <atrus> crap, this means my entire desktop arrangement doesn't work in lucid.
[23:04] <dkg> Vigo: Fresh it is I guess.
[23:05] <Vigo> atrus: I had to change mine to Sand or Clearbooks for it to function correctly.
[23:05] <dkg> avis: Both different partition ADN disk AND backed up
[23:05] <Vigo> That is not a fix, it is a workaround, I am testing fixes on a different box. no luck,,yet.
[23:07] <Vigo> My dinner is done and I am getting sleepy, you all have a swell moment in time.
[23:08] <atrus> this is a nasty regression. i couldn't even see what was wrong.
[23:10] <vbundi> hey I've made a bash script and I want to make it so that when someone double clicks it, it doesn't ask 'run in terminal, dispay, edit, etc'
[23:11] <vbundi> I just want to double click and display (exectute commands outside of a terminal)
[23:12] <atrus> how important are regressions supposed to be in ubuntu's launchpad?
[23:28] <tracer> just upraded from karmic to lucid everything went well except my video playback is jerky and i have lost nice boot up graphics. any ideas. i jst tried removing and reinstalling proprietary drivers and rebooting but no difference
[23:33] <mazda01_> anyone know how to get into lucid (current as of now) when I had the nvidia-96-glx driver installed? i removed the xorg.conf, hoping it would fallback on a failsafe graphics mode using vesa but it didn't?
[23:36] <magaio> Is anyone else having issues installing ATI Catalyst 10.3 on 64 bit? I keep getting messages about missing libatiuki.so.1 even after linking them in the lib directories
[23:40] <arand> Hmm, yahoo→google, just out of the blue like that... Hehe, I do hope that it was all a great canonical con to make google outbid yahoo...
[23:40] <BUGa_vacations> heh
[23:41] <BUGa_vacations> I tried to dig into it
[23:41] <BUGa_vacations> but came out black
[23:41] <BUGa_vacations> *blank
[23:41] <BUGa_vacations> _they_ are not revealing anything why the change
[23:41] <BUGa_vacations> other then a pseudo lame justification to help users with the upgrade migration
[23:41] <BUGa_vacations> "be familiar to everybody upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04"
[23:42] <danyR> BUGa_vacations: money, my friend, money. google paid well
[23:42] <arand> Well, they'd probably have to keep things locked up pretty well in order for The GOOG not finding out if it was indeed a con.
[23:43] <BUGa_vacations> you think it was a bluff?
[23:43] <BUGa_vacations> to pressure google to out bid yahoo ?
[23:43] <arand> I hope it was.
[23:44] <arand> Since I saw no other valid reasons for yahoo than monetary in the first place (privacy,
[23:44] <danyR> Canonical has to win some money w/ Ubuntu, shuttleworth fortune's isn't endless. they need to start lucrating...
[23:44] <arand> ... heh, not likely)
[23:45] <danyR> lucrating? oh my english -> earning...
[23:45] <yofel> rick didn't explain much more in -devel either :/ http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/04/07/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t21:39
[23:47] <KenBW2> has anything changed with cron that would stop subversion committing every minute, when the exact same cron file works fine on my karmic PC?
[23:47] <BUGa_vacations> danyR: ahahahaha
[23:48] <Korcia> mawst: now I know how to configure jdownloader so is readable with openjdk
[23:48] <BUGa_vacations> rickspencer3there are a lot of parties involved
[23:48] <BUGa_vacations> rickspencer3so I can't be as transparent as I'd like
[23:48] <BUGa_vacations> yofel: I find it funny he keeps asking the same thing: "which do you prefer"
[23:49] <yofel> heh
[23:49]  * danyR has Ubuntu One Music Store in Banshee
[23:49] <BUGa_vacations> no idea if it is a counter argument, of if their user test failed to provide a consece
[23:49] <BUGa_vacations> so they just reverted to the most used one
[23:49] <charlie-tca> or are they both paying now?
[23:49] <BUGa_vacations> did anyone here actually used yahoo ?
[23:50] <charlie-tca> couple of times
[23:50] <yofel> I guess we'll have to wait until there are enough rumours for Mark to explain it...
[23:50] <BUGa_vacations> I almost only use chromium, so its google all the way
[23:53] <Oxymoron> yofel: Problem once again with video output :S
[23:53] <Oxymoron> yofel:
[23:53] <Oxymoron> QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /home/oxymoron/.config/ibus/bus
[23:53] <Oxymoron> Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address.
[23:53] <Oxymoron> IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon
[23:53] <Oxymoron> ~/.config/ibus/bus doesnt even exist
[23:54] <KenBW2> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=32483 <-- is there any reason that should fail to run the second command? It runs fine when run on its own
[23:55] <Oxymoron> [mpeg4 @ 0x8c03980]Invalid and inefficient vfw-avi packed B frames detected
[23:57] <yofel> Oxymoron: tried to run 'ibus-daemon' from a terminal? with --daemonize maybe?