[02:07] <__mikem> Hey, I have an improved version of the Radiance theme that i called Briliance. I want to show it to you guys and see if you would be willing to include it in the final release of Lucid
[02:08] <__mikem> anyone?
[02:08] <troy_s> __mikem: Not really the decision of anyone hwere.
[02:09] <troy_s> __mikem: And 'improved' is, as I am sure you are aware, relative.
[02:09] <__mikem> well, wanna just give the theme a spin, and see if you like it?
[02:09] <troy_s> __mikem: No. I don't really mind either way.
[02:12] <__mikem> http://www.mediafire.com/?itjeujdyz45 <-- heres the .tar.gz file that contains my theme if you want to have a look
[02:16] <mrandrzejak> Hi all! Was there a decision made on the Lucid countdown banners?
[11:00] <vish> darkmatter: the green progress bar , seems stuck in between neither being light-n-shiny or being dark'n'sexy ;)
[11:01] <vish> have you tried making it similar to the top bar?
[11:01] <darkmatter> no. not yet. still mucking around with other widgets
[11:02] <vish> darkmatter: the rest look good though :)
[11:02] <darkmatter> neat. even zune goes 'metro' (aesthetically). I'm suspecting windows 8 will be the most metro thing since unisex handbags :P
[11:04] <vish> darkmatter: zune was metro actually , they hadnt mentioned it as metro , probably since it was not as complete as the phone
[11:04] <darkmatter> ahh
[11:04] <vish> heh , probably no one bought a zune ;p
[11:05] <vish> darkmatter: if you had seen the links troy had been posting for a long time , the phone wouldnt have been very surprising ;)
[11:05] <darkmatter> the newest version of the zune desktop looks smokin' hot
[11:05] <darkmatter> the phone wasn't surprising. it was sex in pixels :P
[11:07] <darkmatter> microsoft finally came up with a design direction I like ;)
[11:13] <darkmatter> vish: you know my views about aesthetic minimalism and maximum immersion. I've ranted you into migraines about that crap for years :P
[11:14] <vish> oh , not that again !
[11:14]  * vish runs
[11:14] <knome> :P
[11:14] <vish> ;p
[11:17] <darkmatter> vish: but yeah, I'll have to dig through my irc logs for troy_s "what, you actually _like_ that look?" (rough translation of his wtf reaction to something we discussed ages ago), then I can send him a "kiss my ass, everyone else likes it now too! c'mon, pucker up! :D" IM bomb xD
[11:21] <vish> darkmatter: oh , did you mention it ?  /me doesnt recall ... not documented , no credit ;p
[11:22] <vish> darkmatter: someone must have read the channel logs , and ripped you off ;)
[11:23] <darkmatter> vish: it was about "the next trend in aesthetics" troy_s was all "woodgrain or bust!!". I was more rational, after years of plastic and glass, big flat and chunky seemed a more logical progression
[11:23] <darkmatter> vish: did I say ripped of? no, I said 'wood my ass" :P
[11:24] <vish> darkmatter: damn! troy isnt here to reply :s
[11:24]  * vish  mails channel logs to troy
[11:26] <darkmatter> I had linked a dA screenshot or something like that. must search teh google
[11:26] <darkmatter> vish: awwww... c'mon. admit it. you love it when you're right too ;)
[11:28] <vish> darkmatter: if troy were here, it would be more fun to watch you slug it out with him! ;)  no matter who is right or not ;p
[11:29] <darkmatter> vish: I wish he was. I'm in a playful "in your face!" mood :D that's what happens when I consume WAYYY too much coffee :P
[11:32] <darkmatter> don't get me wrong. troy_s is awesome. but he's more opinionated than the opinion committee, which is why I want to pick on him right now xD
[11:34]  * darkmatter stuffs a hyperactive hamster down the back of vishs undies :O
[12:51] <darkmatter> vish: I have mastered themeing the new nautilus :O
[12:56] <vish>  new nautilus is ?$@
[13:00] <zniavre_> good afternoon
[13:10] <darkmatter> vish: 2.30.0 has some pretty funky changes. thus the "new" comment
[13:11] <darkmatter> vish: anyway. no more "Nautilus looks like crap" :D  http://www.flickr.com/photos/92826085@N00/4499915830/
[13:16] <vish> ah , nice
[13:17]  * vish will steal darkmatter's gtkrc once he is done ;)
[13:17] <darkmatter> ;o
[13:23] <darkmatter> vish: that's technically what this gtkrc is for, and it's why I'm currently just tweaking sonar instead of spending a bazillion hours finish up all of my themes. basically it's to create a generic template
[14:13] <darkmatter> vish: because I wuv you you get the nautilus code ;p http://pastebin.ca/1857769
[14:23] <vish> darkmatter: thanks :)
[14:24] <darkmatter> vish: np. just maintain the class orders. nautilus is a picky bugger. but otherwise season to taste :P
[14:27] <vish> hehe , it has been literally nearly more than 3months since i tweaked a theme
[14:27]  * vish needs more than 48hrs in a day :/
[14:28] <darkmatter> lol
[16:32] <thorwil> kwwii: in general, though i don't know how easy metacity would make that, the alternative to vector window buttons would be to do the same as with icons: a set of sizes
[17:22] <kwwii> thorwil: indeed
[18:47] <thorwil> hmm. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown
[18:49] <thorwil> all perfect examples for the CoF-in-circle scaling problem. there should be another approach for small sizes
[18:50] <thorwil> even just leaving the circle/CoF out would be better
[19:25] <darkmatter> vish: now I'm playing with text styles http://www.flickr.com/photos/92826085@N00/4500093647/ :P
[19:52] <vish> darkmatter: nice wallpaper :)
[19:54] <darkmatter> ty
[20:20] <islington> thorwil: would leaving it out even be allowed? wouldnt that be tampering with a logo?
[20:25] <thorwil> islington: there is a problem, there should be a solution. ideally an official one, of course, bu there's nothing sacred about this still not wrapped up logo-type
[20:36] <kwwii> the honest to goodness truth is that things are simply not completely ready yet
[20:36] <kwwii> we do not want to start putting things out in bits and pieces without the information on usage, etc