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[01:03] <arand> How can I force apport-cli to use lynx?
[01:08] <mpontillo> arand, I'd try doing: sudo aptitude install lynx-cur && sudo update-alternatives --set www-browser /usr/bin/lynx.cur
[01:30] <arand> mpontillo: cheers I just messed with preferred applications in gnome temporarily.
[01:38] <mpontillo> ah, arand, thought that only changed x-www-browser, not www-browser
[01:38] <mpontillo> (actually the gnome one likely doesn't affect the system-wide alternative, does it?)
[01:40] <arand> mpontillo: actually none of those are set to firefox, which is my default, x- is set to chromium, www- is set to lynx (works in tty as it should), and gnome- isnt' "installed" at all.
[01:41] <mpontillo> arand: huh. so apport doesn't use the alternative, I guess?
[01:42] <arand> mpontillo: apport-cli uses whatever is set in gnome, or www- it seems, and the one set in gnome is independent of all those vars.
[01:45] <mpontillo> arand, I see. the comments in apport-cli state that w3m and lynx do not work, but elinks works. looking at apport/ui.py, there is a somewhat complex bit of logic to select the browser in open_url()
[01:46] <arand> mpontillo: ah, so it explicitly says the don't work.. hmm
[01:50] <mpontillo> right, and it looks like if DISPLAY is not set it will try to use www-browser (whatever that alternative happens to be set to)
[01:54] <arand> Anyhow, seems like elinks works alright, so that's at least an available alternative...
[02:12] <kevin_barresi> Can someone change Bug #555923 to "Wishlist"?
[02:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 555923 in hundredpapercuts "Can't change instant messenger in indicator appllet (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/555923
[02:13] <kevin_barresi> It is asking for a new feature rather than reporting a bug
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[05:34] <crimsun> greg-g: please see my latest comment in your bug report on sound
[05:34] <crimsun> greg-g: namely, the position_fix=1
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[06:00] <bbordwell> ddecator, do you have any bugs that a backtrace would be useful? I have little to do tonight and doing some backtraces sounds alright
[06:00] <ddecator> bbordwell: is firefox crashing for you at all?
[06:01] <bbordwell> ddecator, nope
[06:01] <ddecator> bbordwell: if you type in the search window specifically/
[06:02] <bbordwell> ddecator, no but i remember someone talking about that the other day
[06:02] <ddecator> oh really? interesting...
[06:03] <ddecator> bbordwell: you could try to reproduce bug 510548 for me (i can't reproduce it on my system)
[06:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 510548 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Crash on certain websites (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510548
[06:03] <bbordwell> ddecator, I will give it a try
[06:03] <bbordwell> ddecator, hmm I am on firefox 3.6 though
[06:04] <ddecator> bbordwell: the op got it with FF 3.6.3
[06:05] <bbordwell> ddecator, Does he have a certain website that works reliably at all?
[06:06] <ddecator> bbordwell: comment #5
[06:10] <bbordwell> ddecator, I have been just clicking random links on the page for a few min. and nothing
[06:10] <ddecator> bbordwell: ok, thanks
[06:11] <ddecator> those are the only two bugs i'm having trouble with atm...
[06:14] <micahg> ddecator: have the user submit an apport crash report
[06:15] <ddecator> micahg: by having them enable apport? i can't remember the command for that, haha
[06:23] <micahg> ddecator: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/410421/
[06:23] <ddecator> micahg: thanks
[06:27] <Damascene> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/557041
[06:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 557041 in ubuntu "ubuntu-desktop mail-list is so paranoid killing every messeag reach it by the assasin spam-assasin (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[06:27] <Damascene> you should check this guys
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[08:00] <Damascene> bug 557041
[08:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 557041 in ubuntu "ubuntu-desktop mail-list is so paranoid killing every messeag reach it by the assasin spam-assasin (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557041
[08:00] <Damascene> please
[08:17] <vish> Damascene: have you tried asking in -desktop about your language bug?
[08:36] <Damascene> vish, no I thought the e-mail should work and it's better as you adviced I guess
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[08:52] <Damascene> bug 557041
[08:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 557041 in ubuntu "ubuntu-desktop mail-list is so paranoid killing every messeag reach it by the assasin spam-assasin (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557041
[08:53] <Damascene> who can help please?
[08:55] <andol> Damascene: Well, can hardly concider that a bug in the Ubuntu distribution, more lika a potential issue with the commmunity infrastructure.
[08:56] <andol> Damascene: Question from https://lists.ubuntu.com/ - "If you are having trouble using the lists themselves, please contact mailman@lists.ubuntu.com."
[08:58] <Ciemon> cd
[08:58] <Ciemon> apologies
[09:36] <genux> is anybody here.
[09:36] <genux> ?
[09:36] <ddecator> nope
[09:36] <genux> I am just wondering.. I have joined the bugsquad team.. is there like a testing bug to test with to see what to do ?
[09:36] <genux> I have read the triage..
[09:36] <genux> btw
[09:37] <ddecator> not really, just take a look at untriaged bugs, find something you're comfortable with doing, and dig in =)
[09:37] <ddecator> usually, it's good to start out by testing bugs to see if you can confirm, looking for duplicates, stuff like that
[09:37] <genux> k cheers.
[09:38] <ddecator> genux: and always feel free to ask questions in here
[09:38] <genux> k cheers.. :).
[09:38] <ddecator> good luck =)
[09:38] <genux> I shall have a look at some of the bugs to see if I can figure it out :).
[09:43] <kermiac> genux: ddecator: that's what https://staging.launchpad.net/ is for :)
[09:43] <genux> thanks very much Kermiac :)
[09:43] <ddecator> kermiac: what the...i've never heard of this o.o
[09:49] <kermiac> np genux
[10:09] <bbordwell> I feel this bug is ready to marked as triaged with an importance of low, could a member of BC please do so? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openoffice/+bug/541919
[10:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 541919 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Impress hangs while importing a single powerpoint slide (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[10:13] <ddecator> hm, the upstream report was closed a couple days ago
[10:14] <bbordwell> ddecator, yes, because they wanted it tested on 3.2 which i did
[10:15] <bbordwell> This is my first bug with them though so I am not sure of exactly how they work
[10:15] <ddecator> i'm not sure either, i haven't dealt with openoffic devs
[10:16] <ddecator> openoffice*
[10:16] <bbordwell> ddecator, the guy that closed it is on the cc list
[10:16] <bbordwell> ddecator, nvm i was wrong
[10:18] <bbordwell> ddecator, I am installing the version from their site to make sure it is not ubuntu specific
[10:18] <ddecator> i'm guessing the devs will still get an email, but idk how their site is setup
[10:18] <ddecator> bbordwell: sounds good, that will help
[10:18] <ddecator> unfortunately, i really need to get to bed, so someone else will have to help you from here
[10:19] <bbordwell> ddecator, alright thanks
[11:12] <Laibsch> something is odd with adding upstream tickets to kernel bugs (such as bug 512567)
[11:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 512567 in linux (Ubuntu) "hotkeys adjust brightness non-monotonically on new Asus pinetrail netbooks (1001P, 1005P, 1005PE) (affects: 14) (dups: 1) (heat: 90)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512567
[11:13] <Laibsch> This used to work just fine, but I don't see how to do it now.  Any hints?
[11:17] <bbordwell> Laibsch, do you have the link to the upstream bug?
[11:17] <Laibsch> yes
[11:18] <Laibsch> it's from the duplicate
[11:18] <Laibsch> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15182
[11:18] <ubot4> bugzilla.kernel.org bug 15182 in Platform-Drivers "keys for adjusting display brightness don't work as expected on ASUS 1005p netbook" [Normal,Needinfo]
[11:18] <Laibsch> how do you add this to the ticket?
[11:19] <bbordwell> Laibsch, wow i just did this earlier tonight but it is different now
[11:19] <Laibsch> OK
[11:19] <Laibsch> I used to do this as well a few times (including above link)
[11:19] <Laibsch> but it seems to have changed indeed
[13:00] <baptistemm> hello there, when incomplete bugs are closed?
[13:00] <baptistemm> https://help.launchpad.net/BugExpiry doesn't define a precise schedule
[13:01] <baptistemm> and is it possible to have https://bugs.launchpad.net/<yourproject>/+expirable-bugs for packages in ubuntu ?
[13:03] <persia> baptistemm: There is intentionally no precise schedule: and they tend to get closed when the person triaging that set of bugs gets frustrated with them.
[13:03] <persia> And they won't auto-expire in Ubuntu, because when that was turned on, lots of folk complained lots and lots.
[13:04] <baptistemm> okay
[13:04] <baptistemm> hi persia
[14:02] <liam> i found a bug in the nm-applet its set to automatically connect at startup but does not do so
[14:03] <liam> this is on lucid beta 1
[14:03] <yofel> liam: report a bug against network-manager-gnome, and if you have the time report it in the gnome bugzilla too
[14:03] <yofel> liam: you do have all updates installed?
[14:04] <liam> yofel, yes
[14:04] <yofel> liam: then file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug network-manager-gnome' please
[14:10] <liam> yofel, ok i will do
[14:17] <bencrisford> bug 536975
[14:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 536975 in qcad (Ubuntu) "Qcad menu entry lacks a category in lucid 10.04 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/536975
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[15:53] <pedro_> is dako3256 around?
[16:04] <Damascene> pedro_, hello
[16:05] <pedro_> hello there Damascene, how's everything going?
[16:06] <Damascene> well, can you help with the ubuntu-desktop mail list? there is someone named pedro owen it
[16:07] <Damascene> pedro_,
[16:08] <pedro_> Damascene, looking at it now, next time just ping me on IRC i've tons of emails to read and i don't look at the moderation queue everyday
[16:08] <Damascene> ok thank you. I didn't know that was you
[16:09] <Damascene> I think there is a problem with the spam filter
[16:10] <pedro_> Damascene, subject is "RTL languages having their own terminal" ?
[16:11] <Damascene> pedro_, yes
[16:11] <Damascene> thanks pedro, could you help with the bug it self?
[16:11] <pedro_> Damascene, ok approved, i'm deleting the others you send it though, they look more like a 'ping' ;-)
[16:12] <pedro_> Damascene, i'm not a developer, but the desktop devs are on that list so
[16:12] <Damascene> will nothing passed the spam filter though
[16:12] <Damascene> ok thanks
[16:14] <pedro_> you're welcome
[16:14] <pedro_> hello bencrisford
[16:14] <bencrisford> pedro_: hey
[16:16] <bencrisford> pedro_: how did your indicator applet day go? :)
[16:17] <pedro_> bencrisford, was good a few folks were helping with the triage, what about the edubuntu one?
[16:18] <bencrisford> pedro_: i think it went well :), we had quite a few people participating and even though there's plenty of bugs left, i think it helped show people where we are and how much we need help!
[16:18] <bencrisford> which is an achievement in my opinion :)
[16:18] <pedro_> bencrisford, btw next time you want to run one for an specific package or a project just add it to the planning page so we can coordinate a little bit better ;-)
[16:18] <pedro_> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning <-
[16:19] <pedro_> bencrisford, glad to hear that! ;-)
[16:19] <bencrisford> pedro_: i did add i there :S, but probably a little late! :P
[16:19] <bencrisford> next time ill add it there as soon as its confirmed
[16:20] <pedro_> bencrisford, awesome! ping me when you decide it so we can start working on it, creating a wiki page and all that
[16:20] <bencrisford> pedro_: ok :), thanks for all your help over the last few days btw
[16:20] <pedro_> my pleasure ;-)
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[16:42] <vish> Damascene: the mail you sent has arrived
[16:42] <vish> to the desktop ml*
[16:51] <bencrisford> pedro_: just got the email about the rythmbox bugday, but i wont be able to participate, im away until monday as of 1am this evening.
[16:51] <bencrisford> which is annoying
[16:51] <bencrisford> i really want to give something back to you guys after you're help with the edu day
[16:51] <pedro_> bencrisford, no worries, we're having a software-center one next week if you're around ;-)
[16:52] <pedro_> its scheduled for Thursday 15th
[16:52] <bencrisford> pedro_: i should be :D, leaving tonight for germany back sunday or monday not sure
[16:52] <pedro_> bencrisford, where are you now?
[16:54] <alvin> Maybe someone here knows. Is there a new policy about using UUID for LVM volumes in /etc/fstab in Lucid?
[16:55] <bencrisford> pedro_: UK
[16:55] <alvin> Because I just ended up with mounted snapshots instead of real volumes after the upgrade.
[16:55] <bencrisford> pedro_: im in a brass band and where playing a few concerts in the rhineland
[16:55] <bencrisford> should be fun :)
[16:55] <bencrisford> were*
[16:55] <yofel> alvin: for lucid you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:55] <alvin> yofel: Thanks
[16:58] <pedro_> bencrisford, sounds exciting!, which instrument do you play there?
[16:59] <pedro_> bencrisford, i tried to play a trombone once, omg you really need to have good lungs
[17:04] <bencrisford> pedro_: haha yeah, i play trumpet/cornet :)
[17:05] <bencrisford> i got a bit scared earlier when it wasnt working, but i dis and re-assembled it and its fine
[17:05]  * bencrisford thinks hes being a bit off topic :P
[17:05] <pedro_> bencrisford, heh cool :-)
[17:08] <bencrisford> pedro_: ill see if i can check out some r-box bugs tommorrow, depends if my nokia likes launchpad or not
[17:18] <charlie-tca> pedro_: I need a little help
[17:19] <charlie-tca> Has the policy for importance changed? Since when is critical only for bugs in main?
[17:20] <charlie-tca> Could you take a look at bug 519541 please
[17:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 519541 in abiword (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "Abiword 2.8.1 freezes with document lost when help is clicked or F1 is pressed (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 32)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/519541
[17:20] <pedro_> charlie-tca, hello!, not that i know of
[17:20] <pedro_> charlie-tca, looking at it
[17:20] <charlie-tca> I got two bug control members that think it has
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[17:33] <pedro_> charlie-tca, sorry i was looking to the popcon stats, abiword is on the place #312 of installations with 134428, I'd say High because of that
[17:33] <pedro_> charlie-tca, did you tracked it back to debian?
[17:34] <charlie-tca> no
[17:34] <charlie-tca> wait, maybe
[17:34] <charlie-tca> I think I did
[17:36] <charlie-tca> So, every user affected doesn't come into it?
[17:36] <pedro_> charlie-tca, would be nice as well if you can get a backtrace and send it upstream or ping the folks there by a mailing list or IRC, there's no movement on the bug for more than two months at the upstream bts...
[17:36] <charlie-tca> Can't get a backtrace. It just freezes up
[17:36] <pedro_> let me try here
[17:36] <charlie-tca> Well, couldn't before. I will try again
[17:37] <charlie-tca> Had a while when no backtrace would work; I'll run one today
[17:43] <pedro_> charlie-tca, http://paste.ubuntu.com/410628/
[17:44] <charlie-tca> Thanks!
[17:44] <pedro_> you're welcome
[17:45] <pedro_> for such issues what you can do is to attach gdb to the process
[17:45] <pedro_> just search for the pid of the application and run gdb as: gdb command pid
[17:46] <charlie-tca> I will try that
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[18:20] <Damascene> thanks, vish it was very nice of you to tell me :)
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[20:09] <BUGabundo> bRoas
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[20:19] <damascene> hello, calling from windows cause empathy hung in gtalk
[20:19] <damascene> any one want to test it?
[20:34] <om26er> damascene, now get online
[20:35] <damascene> om26er: pm
[20:35] <damascene> om26er: add my launchpad email
[20:49] <cjohnston> hggdh: looks like I'll get to meet you in Brussels
[20:51] <hggdh> cjohnston: you are going! Great!
[20:51] <cjohnston> yup
[20:51] <hggdh> and we will have some nice beers...
[20:52] <cjohnston> I sure hope so
[20:53] <hggdh> heh. trippel karmeliet, gunden draak, and others
[20:53] <cjohnston> Never heard of any of em.. heh...
[20:53] <hggdh> /gunden/gulden
[20:53] <cjohnston> Wife is coming too..
[20:54] <hggdh> cool
[20:55] <cjohnston> trying to get my new laptop before the trip too
[21:05] <hggdh> I hope it is a light one, carrying a heavy beast is hard
[21:05]  * hggdh knows very well...
[21:06] <cjohnston> ya
[21:06] <cjohnston> right now mine is ~9 lbs
[21:07] <cjohnston> im thinking about a dell inspiron
[21:07] <cjohnston> but still dont know
[21:07] <cjohnston> ive heard there are issues with the new intel i cores
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[21:10] <charlie-tca> vish around?
[21:11] <vish> charlie-tca: hi..
[21:11] <charlie-tca> bug 546477
[21:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 546477 in ubuntu-mono (Ubuntu) "Battery level should deplete to the right (affects: 2) (dups: 1)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546477
[21:11] <charlie-tca> he wants it reverted
[21:11] <vish> oh great!
[21:12] <charlie-tca> Knew you would like that idea ;-)
[21:49] <decoder> hi there
[21:49] <decoder> i just added comment to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-backports-modules-2.6.31/+bug/404575
[21:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 404575 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.31 (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "iwlagn creates cpu hog (affects: 26) (heat: 150)" [Undecided,New]
[21:49] <decoder> but I wasnt able to link it to 2.6.32
[21:49] <decoder> if someone could do that, that'd be great
[21:50] <decoder> I'm testing lucid beta atm and this bug just occurred again as described
[21:50] <decoder> it was fixed in linux mainstream 2.6.33-rc3
[22:52] <hggdh> decoder: add a comment in the description: LAST TESTED: linux-2.6.32-??"
[23:14] <atrus> bug 498182 is a regression that can make karmic desktops break when they move to lucid, right now ranked "medium" importance. should that be higher since it a) breaks migration, and b) is a regression vs previous releases?
[23:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 498182 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Indicator-application does not support vertical panels (affects: 10) (heat: 58)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/498182
[23:15] <seb128> atrus, changing the settings will not really be useful there
[23:16] <seb128> the issue is not going to change for lucid
[23:16] <atrus> hrm. that's unfortunate.
[23:18] <atrus> what about a warning or something at least? if the applet finds itself on a panel it's incompatible with, it could at least say "hey, this isn't going to do what you expect, move me to an appropriate panel", or something worded slightly more professionally?
[23:31] <mrand> atrus: If it is truly serious and not going to be fixed, it should be considered for the release notes.
[23:31] <atrus> maybe. should it be tagged that way?
[23:37] <mrand> atrus: yeah.  If memory serves, there is a project for it, actually.  Take a look around and see what google turns up.