[12:44] <mazda01> anyone know why mythweb isn't being upgraded like the other mythtv packages in lucid yet? i just did a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and I don't see mythweb listed as being updated.
[12:46] <mazda01> then when I went to my mythweb webpage from another computer, I see this all over the place and it doesn't really work: Incompatible protocol version (mythweb=56, backend=50)
[12:47] <mazda01> OH!! nevermind, it appears as though mythweb was upgraded before (days ago) but the backend wasn't now that I read the protocol numbers more closely. hopefully this dist-upgrade sorts it out. I knew I shouldn't have tried to go to Lucid to early, well I am paying for it now!
[15:43] <superm1> mazda01, the two should be in sync, just make sure you restart the back (or the system)
[21:39]  * C-P facepalms
[21:39] <C-P> can someone explain why mplayer was given the shiv in 9.10
[21:40] <rhpot1991> C-P: meaning?
[21:40] <C-P> "External Video Players (mplayer, xine, VLC) will not work with videos hosted on an SG " from http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_.22_Transition_Guide
[21:40] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] MythVideo - MythTV
[21:41] <rhpot1991> don't use a storage group for them
[21:41] <rhpot1991> internal player is more than capable anymore
[21:41] <rhpot1991> so you really shouldn't need an external player
[21:41] <C-P> one sec.
[21:44] <C-P> internal player is more capable than mplayer? that hasnt been my experience really
[21:45] <C-P> additionally, to switch from using storage groups to not using storage groups, do I need to reinstall from disk?
[21:45] <rhpot1991> C-P: I haven't had any issues with internal player in a while, I used to use xine but thats not really needed anymore IMO
[21:46] <rhpot1991> C-P: nope, just delete the storage group in mythtv-setup and then map out your directory as mentioned here:
[21:46] <rhpot1991> !iso
[21:46] <Zinn> Storage Groups are a streaming method of transmitting material to a frontend, meaning they don't provide block-level access to the file in question. An ISO is a disk image, and requires block-level access. Upstream has a plan to simulate a block device across the network using NBD for 0.24. Until then you can use the following workaround: http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/7
[21:46] <C-P> I suppose my main problem is the keyboard input for controlling playback
[21:46] <C-P> (for internal player)
[21:46] <rhpot1991> all that is modifyable
[21:54] <C-P> rhpot1991: how does one delete the storage groups?
[21:54] <rhpot1991> mythtv-setup, navigate to storage groups (option 6 I believe), find the one for videos and delete it
[21:55] <C-P> Right, no, I'm at that point, I just don't see a way to delete
[21:55] <tgm4883> hit the delete key?
[21:55] <rhpot1991> d
[21:56] <rhpot1991> or m then delete or maybe its i then delete
[21:56] <C-P> ah the d key worked
[22:06] <C-P> so I deleted the storage group, altered the path for the videos in the setup, but mythtv is still trying to open videos over MRL
[22:12] <rhpot1991> check that the player associated with those files is correct
[22:13] <rhpot1991> and did you scan for change
[22:15] <C-P> scan for changes, that got it
[22:15] <C-P> thanks the
[22:15] <C-P> then*
[23:09] <edomeda> hey guys, can anyone tell me if the EEE BOX (EB1012) Intel Atom 330 would use 64bit or 32 bit mythbuntu installer?
[23:11] <Daviey> edomeda: either, you can use 64 bit if you want to
[23:12] <edomeda> Daviey, thanks
[23:23] <edomeda> does the mythbuntu installer support linux software raid (md) ?
[23:25] <Daviey> edomeda: no
[23:25] <Daviey> (because ubuntu graphical installer doesn't)
[23:25] <Daviey> you can convert to raid post installation
[23:25] <edomeda> so I'd have to use something like ubuntu-alt and then install the repo?
[23:25] <Daviey> edomeda: all the mythbuntu stuff is in the ubuntu repositories
[23:25] <tgm4883> well everything is in the official repos
[23:26] <edomeda> oh, I thought I'd need a mythbuntu repo to get it. :)
[23:26] <tgm4883> nope
[23:27] <tgm4883> we do have auto-build
[23:27] <tgm4883> which I would recommend enabling
[23:27] <tgm4883> !auto%
[23:27] <Zinn> Auto builds contain more recent bug fixes than the normal Ubuntu repository contains.  It is available for the latest released MythTV (0.23) on Karmic and Lucid, as well as unstable trunk on Lucid.  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[23:28] <edomeda> ah, well I'm in New Zealand and my download will take me 13hours 45mins for installer...   so I could save time using that + ubuntu-alt (9.10), right?
[23:30] <edomeda> I've got two boxes, BE that needs raid, and FE eeebox.  Both will work well with 9.10 alternate CD + auto build?
[23:31] <mrand> edomeda: do you know about zsync?
[23:32] <edomeda> nope, I know rsync. :)
[23:32] <mrand> Use any Ubuntu based CD and zsync to the one you want.
[23:32] <mrand> Basically only downloads the difference
[23:32] <edomeda> sounds cool, googling for it now
[23:36] <mrand> edomeda: Take whatever iso you believe would be closest to the iso that you want. and copy/rename it to the one you do want.  For example: rename old .iso to mythbuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso and then run "zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/releases/karmic/release/mythbuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.zsync"
[23:36] <Zinn> [cdimage.ubuntu.com]
[23:36] <edomeda> mrand, wouldn't I need a zsync link for mediabuntu?
[23:36] <mrand> mediabuntu isn't a distro, just a package, right?
[23:36] <edomeda> mrand, ah, thanks
[23:36] <tgm4883> it's a repo
[23:36] <tgm4883> but you shouldn't need it anymore
[23:37] <edomeda> tgm4883, so I'd get the same stuff using the 9.10alt + auto builder?
[23:38] <tgm4883> well, 9.10 alt, add auto-builds, then install mythbuntu-desktop
[23:38] <tgm4883> then configure using MCC
[23:38] <mrand> yep.  edomeda, I'm basically running exactly that.
[23:39] <edomeda> great, that will save me 14 hours of download time. :)
[23:39] <mrand> Except it wasn't 9.10 alt, but 7.10 alt that has been upgraded 4 times since.
[23:39] <mrand> for exactly the same reason as you too: RAID config
[23:39] <edomeda> I don't need alt for the eeebox, just my BE
[23:39] <edomeda> shame that md raid isn't supported with the desktop cd.
[23:40] <mrand> ah.  yeah.  might try zsync the desktop based on the alt when you go to bed.  It'll be a big download, but still less than a full one.
[23:41] <edomeda> ISP here suck, they traffic manage everything to dial-up speeds. :(
[23:42] <mrand> When I had dialup, I used to download a lot of stuff as I slept.
[23:42] <mrand> I'm lucky to have a hugely fast link now.
[23:43] <edomeda> NZ is really behind, we have monthly caps from 5-40GB per month.  Only one plan by one ISP has unlimited, but it's managed to horrible speeds for anything useful.
[23:43] <mrand> unfortunate
[23:44] <edomeda> yeah, I mean I've got a 14Mbit ADSL, but anything outside the country is horrible.  Which, is 99.999999% of everything I do, lol.
[23:45] <edomeda> ah well, at least we get some good things.   Freeview is nice here, all our channels are HD and unencrypted DVB-T
[23:46] <edomeda> been looking forward to building a myth setup for a few months.  Finally got the wife to "buy in." :)
[23:47] <mrand> hehehe I slowly planned my mythtv setup for nearly a year.
[23:47] <mrand> Around the end of the year and new year, bought stuff while it was on sale.
[23:48] <mrand> Didn't want to sink money into something I wasn't sure would work out, but it worked great.
[23:48] <edomeda> I tried for days to find a setup that compared to the eeebox EB1012, but couldn't match it.  dual core Atom 330 with nvidia Ion/9400, HDMI, 5.1 audio, and only uses 40watts with almost no space.
[23:50] <edomeda> for BE I've got a core2duo @2.93, HVR-2200 PCIe dual tuner, and 4x 1.5TB drives.
[23:51] <edomeda> my only concern is the network, I have gigabit for desktops and BE server, but 802.11n for FE eeebox.
[23:52] <mrand> I've heard the 802.11n nic's can vary drastically, but I'm guessing you won't have any problems - especially won't have lots of machines running wireless.
[23:53] <mrand> Your machine is pretty beefy.  My FE + BE + server is 2.2 GHz low-cache Core2duo with 2x750 GB (only doing SD).
[23:53] <edomeda> I have a higher end WAP (dlink extreme gaming router)
[23:53] <edomeda> yeah, but I'm going to be doing 1080p HD with my setup
[23:54] <mrand> yeah
[23:54] <edomeda> most of our programming here is HD, some 720p, but most 1080p
[23:56] <edomeda> does the MCC work for doing a FE only install?
[23:56] <tgm4883> yea
[23:57] <edomeda> cool.  Is that what I'd use on my desktops to watch videos from BE as well?
[23:57] <tgm4883> yea you would use the FE
[23:59] <mrand> MCC is an installer/configurator
[23:59] <edomeda> wow, 0.23 has a 15% faster h264 decoder, that's huge.