[00:03] <kklimonda> hey, is there any way of gettin checkbox data or are you planning some offline tool to check how well the hardware is supported?
[00:44] <slangasek> kubuntu DVDs posted; that's the end of the expected respin sequence
[00:44] <bladernr> slangasek:  cool!
[01:22] <colorlessprism> hello everyone
[01:58] <Andre_Gondim> How can I help with test?
[02:57] <bladernr> Andre_Gondim:  in case you didn't get an answer elsewhere: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[02:57] <bladernr> You can get the ISO images here: cdimages.ubuntu.com
[02:57] <Andre_Gondim> bladernr, thanks
[02:58] <Andre_Gondim> bladernr, like http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20100406/ ?
[03:00] <bladernr> yep.  You can also look in the 'current' dir as well (same as the date dir)
[03:00] <bladernr> Andre_Gondim:  and if you find bugs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[03:01] <bladernr> the first link lists the isos, under each of those are the test cases.  Most of them are simply "Install from the latest ISO, report any bugs you find in the installer"
[03:02] <bladernr> some of them have special instructions, and there is usually a link pointing you to the special instructions like this one: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3926/34
[06:56] <ara> good morning all
[07:00] <grantbow> good morning ara
[07:03] <ara> hey grantbow!
[07:06] <grantbow> hey!
[09:43] <czajkowski> ara: if a person is loggig bugs and their machine was hardy and have upgraded to lucid do they tag them hardy2lucid?
[09:43] <ara> czajkowski, hey
[09:43] <ara> czajkowski, yes, that's correct
[09:43] <czajkowski> lovely jubbly cheers
[09:44] <ara> czajkowski, but only if they are upgrade bugs or regressions
[09:45] <czajkowski> *nods*
[10:12] <davmor2> morning all
[10:17] <sbeattie> wow, the kubuntu splash looks appalling under virtualbox.
[10:22] <ara> morning davmor2
[10:23] <ara> hey sbeattie
[10:24] <sbeattie> good morning ara, davmor2
[10:27] <Daviey> sbeattie: ahh i wanted to speak to you :)
[10:27] <sbeattie> ruh roh.
[10:42] <davmor2> morning sbeattie steve have you seen ubuntu's too it's not pretty, nor is it on a nvidia based machine with the nvidia binary applied
[10:43] <sbeattie> davmor2: unless it's changed very recently, the ubuntu one has some artifacts that are ugly, but don't even come close to the kubuntu one.
[10:44] <davmor2> sbeattie: they should of stuck to the plain text over the 16bit I think it was much cleaner
[10:45] <sbeattie> Yeah, I like the plain text version, too.
[10:47] <davmor2> sbeattie: right lets pick on keybuk till he puts it back then :)
[10:47] <sbeattie> I suspect keybuk didn't have a choice in what to implement there.
[10:52] <davmor2> sbeattie: did you see his blog post on the subject?
[10:52] <sbeattie> davmor2: no, I didn't, will take a look.
[10:54] <davmor2> sbeattie: http://www.netsplit.com/2010/03/30/all-about-kernel-mode-setting/
[10:56] <ara> it does look horrible...
[12:48] <charlie-tca> Is it a planned thing that if there is a backup on the drive used to install on with any system directory name in it, it gets erased and the user loses the backup?
[12:51] <persia> Unlikely: it's more likely failed detection code.
[13:08] <charlie-tca> It intentional reformats any partition that it detects system directory names
[13:09] <persia> Right, but I think it's intentionally overwriting a prior install and not intentionally overwriting backups.
[13:11] <charlie-tca> I see.
[13:13] <persia> I may be mistaken of course, but I think the idea was to support reinstallation for folks that don't believe that upgrade really works.
[13:24] <charlie-tca> Great idea, bad implementation... I had backups of three systems that were erased
[13:25] <charlie-tca> All I did was ask for no format, mount as /usr/bak/system
[13:32]  * fader_ cranks up zsync to make sure everything is up to date.
[13:32] <fader_> How are the images looking today?
[13:32] <fader_> Also, good morning/afternoon/evening/night/whatever :)
[13:32] <cr3> fader_: merry christmas to you too
[13:33] <cyphermox> cr3: doesn't look like christmas weather unfortunately :/
[13:33] <persia> regionalist!
[13:36]  * fader_ is ready for an Australian Christmas at this point.
[13:38] <davmor2> fader_: cr3 Morning guys
[13:38] <fader_> davmor2: yo dude
[15:06] <kermiac> mvo ping re bug 523714. Did you get a chance to look into the script that was causing this? ubuntuone-client changelogs are being affected by this atm - at least the last 2 releases don't have changelogs - http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/u/ubuntuone-client/
[15:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 523714 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "[lucid] update-manager shows no changelog for various packages (affects: 4) (dups: 9) (heat: 76)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523714
[15:11]  * persia suspects that the fix requires installing backported dpkg on whatever server runs the changelog-collection-job
[15:16] <mvo> kermiac: I have not, sorry. but persia is probably right in his analysis
[15:16] <persia> mvo: There was a DC-safe backport made to solve bugs with LP and format: 3.0 packages, so it's probably just verification that these are format: 3.0 packages, and then an RT to get it installed somewhere.
[15:18] <kermiac> mvo: could i ping someone else to look into this if you're to busy with other things? I understand things are very hectic at this time in the cycle :)
[15:18] <mvo> dpkg-source: error: Unsupported format of .dsc file (3.0 (quilt))
[15:19] <mvo> so thats the issue
[15:31] <kermiac> mvo: I'm about to go get some sleep. are you looking into this or should I ping you some other time (like after lucid release) when you're hopefully not as busy? As I said earlier, I understand if things are too busy right now & I don't want to be a pita ;) I just want to give the ubuntuone guys an answer before I go?
[15:32] <persia> kermiac: I'll suggest you tell them it's being investigated.  If I'm right about the cause (and I believe I am), it may take a few days for the right folk to make the infrastructure changes.
[15:32] <mvo> kermiac: I'm looking into it now
[15:32] <kermiac> ok, thanks persia, mvo. I appreciate  it :)
[15:33] <mvo> thanks for raising it
[15:33] <kermiac> no problem at all :)
[15:33] <kermiac> g'night
[17:11] <fader_> grr, the KDE crash reporter is really evil :(
[17:11] <cr3> fader_: do you happen to have kubuntu running right now?
[17:13] <fader_> cr3: Just did an OEM install and am finishing that up, so I should have a working kubuntu system in a few minutes
[17:13] <fader_> (in theory)
[17:15] <cr3> fader_: if you could run checkbox and let me know if it works, I'd really appreciate
[17:15] <fader_> cr3: Heh, no such luck -- OEM install seems to be broken
[17:16] <fader_> I'll try a different test case after filing the appropriate bugs for this and test checkbox
[17:17] <cr3> fader_: running an install myself, so I'll have a go too
[17:27] <bladernr> has anyone tried the wubi install yet?
[17:28] <fader_> bladernr: I think davmor2 usually hits those... not sure if he's had time or not though
[17:28] <fader_> I'm sure he'd appreciate the help if you're offering ;)
[17:28] <bladernr> heh... fail
[17:29] <davmor2> bladernr: I did yesterday bit busy today but I will try hit some today if I can otherwise it'll be tomorrow first thing
[17:29] <bladernr> I'll write bugs in a bit... after launchpad stops giving me 500 errors
[17:29] <bladernr> davmor2:  I'm doing one now on 64bit... got a couple issues, one minor, one probably pretty bad
[17:29] <bladernr> be back in a bit
[17:58] <fader_> cr3: checkbox isn't installed, and command-not-found doesn't know about it:
[17:58] <fader_> ubuntu@ubuntu-laptop:~$ checkbox
[17:58] <fader_> No command 'checkbox' found, did you mean:
[17:58] <fader_>  Command 'checkbot' from package 'checkbot' (universe)
[17:58] <fader_> checkbox: command not found
[17:58] <fader_> ubuntu@ubuntu-laptop:~$
[17:58] <fader_> cr3: There's no checkbox-qt is there?
[17:59] <cr3> fader_: nope, haven't gotten around to that
[17:59] <cr3> fader_: I expect checkbox to not be installed by default, it is only a dependency of ubuntu-desktop
[18:00] <fader_> cr3: Ah, makes sense.
[18:01] <davmor2> bladernr: what's up?
[18:02] <fader_> cr3: Want me to test checkbox-cli or -gtk?
[18:02] <bladernr> davmor2:  minor: wubi didn't reboot the VM after I clicked the "restart now" button
[18:02] <bladernr> davmor2:  had to manually restart.
[18:02] <davmor2> it did on hw so that might be a vm issue
[18:02] <cr3> fader_: either, but I think I just reproduced the issue
[18:02] <davmor2> bladernr: what was the other?
[18:03] <bladernr> davmor2:  major: on restart, chose ubuntu from the Windows boot menu, it started up with a black screen that said "Completing the Ubuntu installation" then just hung
[18:04] <davmor2> I'll try and hit it on hw tonight but I've not got much time left so it might have to be in the am
[18:04] <bladernr> davmor2:  no worries... I'll open bugs and attach them to the test case (it's the wubi one for amd64)
[18:05] <davmor2> bladernr: nice one
[18:05] <bladernr> grr... and every time I try filing a bug through Launchpad... it gives me a 500 error :(
[18:06] <bladernr> ^^ s/Timeout Error/500 error/
[18:07] <davmor2> bladernr: zzzzzz
[18:07] <davmor2> for the bug description
[18:08] <bladernr> ??
[18:08] <davmor2> bladernr: in the bug description type zzzzzz hit enter then modify it on the next page.
[18:09] <bladernr> ahh... magic!
[18:09] <davmor2> :D
[18:09] <bladernr> do you know what component wubi falls under?  I can't seem to find one, and LP doesn't like wubi
[18:09] <davmor2> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bugs
[18:10] <davmor2> bladernr: sorry I thought you were doing a general bug for wubi use the link above
[18:10] <bladernr> oh...  Wubi, not wubi... sigh...
[18:12] <davmor2> bladernr: I haz a million and one bookmarks I think ;)
[18:12] <bladernr> davmor2:  awesome! I have a couple hundred, but need to make more...
[18:12] <bladernr> though most of mine are most definitely OT for this ;-)
[18:13] <fader_> cr3: Was the issue related to checkbox and sudo on kde?
[18:13] <cr3> fader_: kdesudo misbehaving
[18:13] <fader_> cr3: Yeah, I think I'm getting the same thing
[18:13] <cr3> the command fails and there's no output at all, just a dialog box that appears for a fraction of a second
[18:13] <fader_> cr3: Oh, no -- different behavior then
[18:14] <fader_> It prompted for my password, I entered it, and then it is hung on 'Gathering information from your system...'
[18:14] <fader_> There are some complaints about ibus-daemon in the terminal
[18:15] <cr3> aha! the problem is that kdesudo doesn't run the given command in a shell but uses execv* instead, so "kdesudo -- PATH=/foo date" doesn't even work
[18:15] <cr3> fader_: yeah, the behavior after prompting for a password is to just block everything
[18:15] <fader_> Okay, sounds like I can safely kill checkbox then
[18:15] <fader_> cr3: Do you need me to keep a KDE image around to test things later today, or can I blow it away?
[18:16] <fader_> (No worries either way; I have HDD space for it at the moment)
[18:17] <cr3> fader_: reported bug #557443
[18:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 557443 in checkbox "Checkbox on Kubuntu stalls when gathering information (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557443
[18:17] <cr3> fader_: nope, I'm all good
[18:17] <fader_> cr3: Thanks
[19:14] <mote> Hi there. I Just bought a new Asus eee 1005p netbook. would i be a good idea to sign up for test?