[15:12] <harry-houdini1> hello i am using ubuntu 9.1 karmic with ubuntu-studio-audio installed and am trying to get jack working ...What I want to do is transmit the sound from a windows 7 box to a ubuntu box since sound is not fully supported with version 5 of the rdp protocol (version 7 has full support)
[15:13] <harry-houdini1> can anyone help?
[15:14] <holstein> hey harry-houdini1
[15:14] <holstein> SO
[15:14] <holstein> you have an ubuntubox
[15:14] <harry-houdini1> hi holstein
[15:14] <holstein> and a win7 box
[15:14] <harry-houdini1> yes
[15:15] <holstein> and you want what?
[15:15] <harry-houdini1> i want to stream the sound from the windows box to the ubuntu box
[15:15] <harry-houdini1> over the lan
[15:15] <holstein> OK
[15:15] <holstein> at what quality?
[15:15] <harry-houdini1> very good quality
[15:15] <harry-houdini1> i am watching training videos
[15:15] <harry-houdini1> its a 100MB ethernet
[15:16] <holstein> videos?
[15:16] <holstein> SO you want to stream the audio and video?
[15:16] <harry-houdini1> testout training videos....I have a remote desktop connection but sound isnt supported
[15:16] <holstein> i dont think jack is going to be the anser
[15:16] <holstein> answer*
[15:17] <harry-houdini1> so i figured i could use this as a stop gap measure
[15:17] <harry-houdini1> stream the audio separately
[15:17] <holstein> sure
[15:17] <holstein> but what will sync?
[15:17] <holstein> have you tried VLC
[15:17] <holstein> ?
[15:17] <harry-houdini1> I cant find any how too's on using vlc with testout..i dont think it will work
[15:18] <holstein> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[15:18] <holstein> hmmm
[15:19] <holstein> why dont you just watch the vids on the ubuntu box?
[15:19] <harry-houdini1> cause of the overhead of running a virtual machine
[15:19] <harry-houdini1> i wanted to offload the work
[15:20] <harry-houdini1> it wont run with wine
[15:20] <holstein> SO ubuntu is virtulized?
[15:20] <harry-houdini1> its its own self contained program
[15:20] <holstein> and testout has a proprietary piece of software
[15:20] <harry-houdini1> no windows is virtualized on the ubuntu box but its too much overhead so i wanted to stream from another workstation
[15:20] <holstein> that plays the vid?
[15:20] <harry-houdini1> yes exactly
[15:21] <holstein> to train you about opensource sofware ;)
[15:21] <holstein> lol
[15:21] <holstein> anyways
[15:21] <harry-houdini1> no actually cisco
[15:21] <harry-houdini1> CCNP stuff
[15:21] <holstein> hmm
[15:21] <holstein> well, jack is not the answer
[15:21] <holstein> pretty sure
[15:22] <holstein> you get jack running on ubuntu
[15:22] <holstein> and that doesnt help you get anything into it really
[15:22] <holstein> not from windows
[15:22] <harry-houdini1> sad thing is if rdesktop supported version 7 of rdp it would work
[15:22] <harry-houdini1> well jack runs on windows as well
[15:23] <holstein> so your thinking netjack?
[15:23] <harry-houdini1> yes
[15:23] <harry-houdini1> isnt that part of jack2
[15:23] <holstein> hmm
[15:24] <holstein> that would do it...
[15:24] <holstein> have you used jack before?
[15:24] <harry-houdini1> damn program is totally undocumented
[15:24] <holstein> even best case scenario for me
[15:24] <holstein> i had a little latency
[15:24] <harry-houdini1> no never used it cant get the deamons to start on either windows or linux get error #2
[15:24] <holstein> and some xruns
[15:25] <holstein> to many xruns for me to feel like i could use netjack proffesionally
[15:25] <harry-houdini1> whats xruns cause
[15:25] <holstein> clicks
[15:25] <harry-houdini1> hmmm
[15:25] <holstein> pops
[15:25] <holstein> or drop-outs
[15:25] <holstein> OR crashing
[15:25] <harry-houdini1> that would be anoying
[15:25] <holstein> yup
[15:25] <holstein> PLUS
[15:25] <holstein> its challenging to get running
[15:25] <harry-houdini1> you aint kidding
[15:25] <holstein> and your not going to ever do anything else with it
[15:26] <holstein> if your not an audio guy
[15:26] <harry-houdini1> does vlc some how work with non compliant programs
[15:26] <holstein> how about a really long headphone extension cable?
[15:26] <harry-houdini1> hmmm..lol maybe thats the answer
[15:26] <holstein> if you can get VLC to play the vid
[15:26] <holstein> it'll stream it
[15:27] <holstein> and thats something you can use for other purposes
[15:27] <harry-houdini1> nah it  wont play the vid they are encrypted
[15:27] <holstein> hmmm
[15:27] <harry-houdini1> its a whole simulator and stuff besides videos
[15:28] <holstein> well
[15:28] <holstein> it seems like something you want to be running native
[15:28] <holstein> in windows
[15:28] <harry-houdini1> wine wont run the internet explorer with the web rdp client either
[15:28] <harry-houdini1> I guess this is a no go and i give up maybe in 10 years it will work..
[15:28] <holstein> i believe a strongly worded email is in order
[15:29] <harry-houdini1> what do you suggest holstein
[15:29] <holstein> an email to testout
[15:29] <holstein> about linux support
[15:30] <harry-houdini1> yeah right like thats going to happen...good idea..not a chance in hell i am afraid..maybe i should send an email to the makers of rdesktop
[15:30] <holstein> both
[15:30] <holstein> at least rdesktop has a good reason
[15:31] <holstein> the same reason
[15:31] <holstein> proprietary
[15:31] <harry-houdini1> your right...thanks..I will leave ya alone now ...thanks for you help...
[15:31] <holstein> harry-houdini1: anytime
[15:31] <holstein> good luck
[15:31] <harry-houdini1> you too!
[19:13] <tucemiux> im trying to figure out how to go from logic to protools, anyone have any suggestions??
[19:16] <holstein> tucemiux: you mean files?
[19:16] <holstein> can you just export/import?
[19:16] <holstein> wavs or whatever they both support?
[23:06] <sobukus> Man, this system is cursed
[23:06] <holstein> sobukus: lol
[23:06] <holstein> whats up?
[23:06] <sobukus> I had working network manager on monday, including 3G dialup in nm-applet.
[23:06] <holstein> i remember talking to you, but i forget
[23:07] <holstein> OH
[23:07] <holstein> and no good now
[23:07] <holstein> sobukus: did you get a kernel update?
[23:08] <holstein> i have to say
[23:08] <holstein> on my studio machine/install
[23:08] <holstein> i dont just go willie-nillie on the updates
[23:10] <sobukus> Now today, the modem won't show anymore..
[23:10] <sobukus> it's still the same kernel
[23:10] <holstein> hmmm
[23:10] <sobukus> The modem _works_
[23:10] <holstein> did you do anything in the bios?
[23:10] <holstein> hmm
[23:10] <sobukus> but it does not show in network manager
[23:11] <sobukus> I can go online with svdial and a custom script to register in the network
[23:11] <sobukus> wvdial
[23:11] <holstein> OH
[23:11] <holstein> thats probable the way to go anyways
[23:11] <holstein> i dont know how well dial-up is supported in NM
[23:11] <holstein> i tried a while back
[23:11] <holstein> hardy or so
[23:11] <holstein> and i gave up pretty quick
[23:11] <sobukus> and actually, nm-applet was gone on first boot today
[23:12] <holstein> and went to something like wvdial
[23:12] <sobukus> dialup worked fine for me in older ubuntu installs
[23:12] <holstein> i think it was the modem i was using
[23:12] <sobukus> and it actually worksed initially ... but something beinhd the scenese broke the communication with network manager
[23:13] <sobukus> I don't see the point in ubuntu if these clicky-thingies don't work
[23:13] <holstein> bbl... dinner-time
[23:13] <sobukus> well, it's midnight here, so ... too;-)
[23:13]  * sobukus hopes someone will reply to the post on ubuntustudio users mailing list
[23:14] <sobukus> perhaps it's just some dbus crap going wrong ...
[23:14] <sobukus> but exactly this mysterious works/does not work of the fancy stuff on top of the basics is very disconcerning
[23:15]  * sobukus prepares to leave the train ... while on 3G dialup from the laptop ... using Source Mage GNU/Linux with custom script
[23:16] <sobukus> I am still giving ubuntu a chance here... but I really want to see some progress from the beta ... the shiny stuff should work (besides the other issues like SCSI root disk).
[23:17]  * sobukus off, too