[00:01] jcastro: hey? [00:01] yo [00:01] normally you have some line in your invite about [reply to so-and-so with ACK] [00:02] it's in there. [00:02] with a deadline of the 16th [00:02] ah. marianna. [00:02] gotcha. thanks :) [00:02] do i also discuss rooming with her? [00:03] yep [00:03] cheers [00:03] very odd. the new claire is not named claire. [00:05] rickspencer3: that's a thread I don't want to pull at any further tonight, there's more refactoring than I would like. [00:05] ? [00:05] sure [00:05] using another process to replace glib signals [00:06] right [00:06] we'll have to do *something* [00:06] it works for notifications I think, but not for how he is using it to imitate a dict for some of the settings [00:06] but let's call it a day [00:06] so I would have to restructure that bit as well [00:06] aargh [00:06] I can't repro getting the CPU to pin with Nafail [00:06] 's code now [00:07] though it seems rather resource intensive at time [00:07] s [00:08] hrm [00:10] http://osdir.com/ml/svn-commits-list/2010-01/msg03809.html [00:11] wow, that may make my approach pretty much impossible anyway [00:11] Nafai, I'm not getting the pegging issue again [00:12] seems dobey was pretty much there with https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~dobey/gwibber/gwibber-keyring-unthreaded/+merge/22704 but I'm not sure it will have worked [00:12] ok, I'll work on the changes stuff [00:12] rickspencer3: does starting gwibber-service as "./bin/gwibber-service -d -o" give any hint as to what it is doing? [00:13] good question [00:13] I can for sure try [00:14] if it's beam.smp that's pinning it then it's a different issue, but may just be something like we are accessing it more now [00:15] james_w, well, it only pinned once [00:15] I can't reproduce it now [00:15] but, yeah [00:16] if it keeps happening then I would suggest hitting up chad or something to find if it's possible to get a debug log from couch [00:16] but now I must slee [00:16] p [00:16] good night james_w [00:16] good night [00:18] night james_w [00:18] Nafai, so I think your approach is going to be preferred [00:18] ok [00:18] changing from threading to processes seems to involved [00:18] I think so [00:18] yup [00:19] once I clean this up a bit, should I propose it for merging and let kenvandine look at it in the morning? [00:19] with Nafai's branch, I think we are closer to something we can ship [00:19] we just need to be very careful what is run in the subprocesses that are currently there [00:19] Nafai, yes [00:19] awesome [00:19] james_w, any help looking at that would be great [00:19] (tomorrow of course) [00:19] ;) [00:19] sure [00:19] link me up and I'll take a look tomorrow [00:20] wow, gwibber is just a resource hog [00:20] james_w: What's your email and I'll send a link? [00:20] s/?// [00:20] I wonder if we can sleep it for longer [00:20] Nafai: request a review from me on the merge proposal, that's the easiest way [00:20] ah, cool [00:20] learning more about launchpad [00:20] "Request another review" when you have done it, I'm james-w [00:20] :) [00:20] otherwise I'm in the directory [00:20] will do [00:20] Nafai, may I dent a link to your branch? [00:21] sure :) [00:22] Nafai, are you @nafai? [00:22] travisbhartwell [00:22] I decided to go different [00:24] ok, my legions of followers will see your branch [00:24] by legions, like 100 [00:24] ;) [00:25] Nafai, good job [00:25] thanks! [00:25] it's an excellent start, and you got it done in the one day time frame [00:25] except we still need to the mlocking, of course [00:25] Nafai, was pitti going to help with the mlock part? [00:26] yeah, I'll send an email to him when I'm done pointing him to the branch [00:29] break time for me [00:39] bzr merge-upstream rocks [00:52] Nafai, fwiw, gwibber still running fine for me [00:52] yay [00:52] I hope the mlock implementation proves tractable [00:52] taking a break for dinner and will finish up later tonight [00:53] Google is quite mum on the topic [00:53] yeah, I hope so too [00:53] bye Nafai [01:04] is anyone else here using bindwood? [01:15] rickspencer3: oh my gosh, is it true?! is Nafai our hero? [01:15] not sure yet [01:16] still have to figure out how to mlock the passwords from Python [01:16] and need to test test test [01:16] I think pitti is going to try his hand at the mlocking tomorrow [01:16] Is this all to fix the keyring CPU bug? [01:17] TheMuso well ... [01:17] sort of [01:17] heh right. [01:17] it's a "key ring bug" per se [01:17] ah. [01:17] so much as using the keyring exposes certain incompatibilities between different APIs [01:18] Oh lovely. [01:19] perhaps if gnome-keyring was forged in the bowels of Mount Doom..... [01:29] LaserJock, I don't think it has to do with gnome-keyring per se [01:29] I think that a lot of apps were kind of lucky that they worked, and gnome-keyring just kind of caused their flaws to cause bugs [01:29] I know I know, just trying to insert some humor [01:29] threading and async programming in genreal is just super buggy [01:29] LaserJock, I know [01:30] so do you want people to test the branch now or wait a bit? [01:30] I just didn't want the gnome-keyring guys to think we were calling them out [01:30] LaserJock, might as well test Nafai's branch [01:34] bah, stupid gwibber build system [01:35] build? [01:35] LaserJock, I just branched, and ran bin/gwibber-service [01:35] then bin/gwibber [01:36] still no cpu pegging after like an hour or so [01:36] it won't start here [01:37] the INSTALL files said sudo python setup.py install which *should* put it in /usr/local [01:37] but of course even though I told them not to do that they still install to /usr by default [01:38] *anyway*, I get some dbus-related error and it won't start up [01:38] LaserJock, don't installit [01:38] just run the code [01:38] tried that too [01:38] but of course now it's a little hard to figure out what's from the .deb and what's not [01:39] do I need any magic commands to set up gwibber-related services? [01:39] I get: [01:39] dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 [01:40] deb? [01:40] laser jock, I just branched the code and ran it from the cl [01:41] right [01:41] but I have the .debs already installed [01:41] when I ran the gwibber installer it overwrote that [01:41] sometimes you get weirdnesses when you do things like that [01:42] ok, after reinstalling the .debs it seems to start [01:45] * rickspencer3 steps away for dinner, family time [01:46] rickspencer3: hmm, I seemed to just peg it [01:46] *to have just [01:46] worked the first few times though [01:52] LaserJock, are you 100% confident you are running Nafai's branch? [01:53] not 100% so I'm doing it again [01:53] I mean, before it was *every* time I did a refresh [01:53] this time I closed the gwibber window, opened it again, and then did the refresh [01:56] hmm, now I'm just getting the pegged CPU every time [01:59] rickspencer3: yeah, it's not working for me, I get the same behavior as the current gwibber [02:01] rickspencer3: this is what I get from CLI http://paste.ubuntu.com/410797/ [02:06] Hi [02:06] * Nafai looks at LaserJock's paste [02:07] LaserJock: Did you run bin/gwibber-service before running gwibber? [02:08] no [02:08] nobody told me that one :-) [02:09] yeah, that way it will run the new service [02:09] :) [02:10] well that seems to work a bit better [02:11] :) [02:18] hehe [02:18] LaserJock, working now? [02:25] every time my fan turns on, I have to check gwibber [02:27] heh [02:34] rickspencer3: looking good, I even added a new account [02:34] nice [02:34] LaserJock, so it pegged with the old service, and not the new one? [02:34] that's great so far [02:36] anyone know how to restart a dbus service from another process? [02:37] If the dbus service provides a .service file in the appropriate place, just try to call one of the methods. [02:37] Nafai - not sure. i know how to start a service, but i'm not sure if you can restart one [02:38] * Nafai nods [02:38] you actually want to restart an already running service? [02:38] well, I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle this -- the changes I've made to gwibber-service load the passwords from gnome-keyring when gwibber-service starts up [02:39] so a solution to handle password changes would be to restart the service [02:39] Nafai: call StartServiceByName on org.freedesktop.DBus [02:39] walters - does that restart an already running service though? [02:39] walters: so if it is already running, that will do it? [02:40] chrisccoulson: no [02:40] Nafai - you would probably need to add a Restart() method to gwibber-service [02:40] * walters should have read from the bottom up rather than top down [02:40] heh ;) [02:41] * Nafai nods [02:52] hyperair: hi [02:52] hyperair: the b-c-e app indicator patch is working great! [02:52] the icon is wrong though, is that just me or a known bug? [02:56] rickspencer3, Nafai: yeah, gwibber is running better than it has in weeks for sure [02:56] sweet [02:59] man, when gwibber is doing it's work, it works *hard* [03:02] I tried closing just gwibber (not -service) and restarting and refreshing as that was causing problems [03:02] all good now [03:02] rickspencer3: gwibber is the biggest CPU user on my machine, and the biggest single RAM user [03:02] it's a pretty heavy app [03:02] *sigh* [03:03] I hope we can optimize it for Maverick [03:03] I've become wary that any desktop client of webapps are hopelessly bad performing [03:04] getting the data takes a whole lot of effort, along with auth, sync, etc. [04:00] Nafai, hey [04:00] HI rickspencer3 [04:00] so I have both my twitter and my identica passwords in the keyring now [04:01] and I've been running gwibber for like an hour [04:01] and it [04:01] s not pegged yet [04:01] yay [04:01] though in 10.10, we really have to put it on a diet [04:01] I mean, it's going to kill your netbook battery [04:01] I haven't figured out the best way to handle changes to passwords, but I think kenvandine will be able to figure out that part easily [04:01] I'm going to put some ideas in the merge request [04:02] Nafai, just stop and start the service seems like a reasonable back up plan [04:02] this will only happen in the unusual cases when you change or set your password [04:02] yeah [04:02] or add an account [04:03] yeah [04:03] hmm [04:03] that code must be in there, I guess [04:03] anyway, I gotsa run [04:03] c'ya tomorrow [04:04] later [04:24] Nafai, got a fix? [04:25] Think so! [04:25] just sent a merge request [04:27] woot [04:27] lp:~nafai/gwibber/gnomekeyring-fix ? [04:27] yup [04:28] I listed an explanation and some todos on the merge request comments [04:29] cool, thanks man! [04:29] np [04:30] Have fun with the tigers? Lose any kids? (re: your tweet) [04:30] :) [04:32] well, I better get ready for bed. I'll see y'all in the morning [04:49] hehe... no left with all 3 :) === robbiew is now known as robbiew_ === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [07:37] Good morning [07:38] Nafai: great work, you figured it out? [08:23] heya pitti [08:28] hey there [08:29] good morning seb128 [08:29] lut didrocks [08:29] hey pitti [08:29] ca va ? [08:29] ça va, bien dormi :) et toi? [08:29] un peu fatigué mais sinon ca va [08:30] couché tard? [08:30] oui, 3h [08:30] didrocks: hey, good morning! I see there is a compiz -ubuntu14 in bzr, is that uploaded and in the queue? or accidently not set to UNRELEASED? [08:30] didn't get too lucky with evening hacking which frustrated me and I didn't want to go to bed before fixing one of the issues I had on my evening todolist [08:30] which took me a while [08:31] hey mvo, how are you? [08:31] bonjour seb128, didrocks, baptistemm; ca va? [08:31] hey pitti [08:31] hey seb128 [08:31] oui, et toi ? [08:31] seb128: good, thanks! [08:31] mvo: it's in the queue from a week [08:31] mvo: good morning [08:31] didrocks: heh :) ok [08:32] whoever managed to bring fr back on the i386 iso thanks [08:32] sweet :) [08:32] do you think I should send upstream the patch from bug 529734 [08:32] Launchpad bug 529734 in gnome-bluetooth "Please add LXDE to bluetooth-properties" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529734 [08:32] I don't know LXDE :) [08:32] baptistemm, yes [08:33] it's a light desktop [08:33] it has been added to fd.o specs etc too I think [08:33] it's gonna be a pain to add an entry for every desktop that exist [08:34] seb128: I tried on Tuesday evening to fix the preview to show the right button layout order in g-c-c. Didn't managed to get that without copying bunch of code and hackish solution. Furthermore, as there are some discussion upstream about removing most of g-c-c features like theme choice in the appeareance capplet, I told myself we'll see next cycle. [08:34] so james_w, if you're have some times to merge my request linked in the bug 529734, I'd appreciate :) [08:34] Launchpad bug 529734 in gnome-bluetooth "Please add LXDE to bluetooth-properties" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/529734 [08:36] I try to clean all bluetooth related bugs (bluez, bluez-gnome, gnome-bluetooth) but this is really difficult.. [08:36] hum [08:36] * seb128 does french iso testing [08:36] * seb128 looks at pitti now [08:37] "item = gtk.MenuItem('Install Drivers')" [08:37] in gtk/jockey-gtk [08:37] * pitti blames ronoc :) [08:37] seb128: fixing in trunk [08:38] pitti, danke [08:38] pitti, bug #542552 [08:38] Launchpad bug 542552 in jockey ""Install Drivers" indicator shortcut not translatable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542552 [08:38] if you need a bug reference [08:38] perfect, thanks [08:42] seems redhat has crash bug reporting now [08:42] seb128: yes, with ABRT [08:42] but not dup detection with it... [08:42] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=gvfs&query_format=advanced&order=bug_id&query_based_on= [08:42] look at their bug list [08:42] * seb128 hugs pitti for apport and retracers [08:42] they rewrote ABRT from scratch instead of using Apport.. :-( [08:43] they pay for it now [08:44] hey MacSlow, njpatel [08:44] pitti, seb128, oh you're kidding. [08:44] *sigh* [08:44] hey seb128, njpatel, njpatel [08:44] hey bryceh [08:44] guten Morgen MacSlow [08:44] bryceh, [08:44] hi pitti [08:44] bryceh: what about? ABRT? [08:46] seb128, MacSlow hey guys [08:46] pitti, yeah [08:46] heya MacSlow [08:46] bryceh, hey [08:46] hey njpatel [08:47] bryceh, found a mail from you from a couple of weeks back, it got filtered incorrectly hence no reply, sorry :) [08:47] bryceh, basic answer to the mail is: I'm still on square one, and nearing defeat ;-) [08:48] * MacSlow wonders why the mouse won't move the cursor on the screen [08:55] pitti, they definitely knew of apport - https://fedorahosted.org/abrt/wiki/AbrtOthers [08:55] pitti, so why didn't they just contribute the needed improvements/changes to apport? [08:57] njpatel, aha, yeah I was afraid of that [08:57] njpatel, yeah seems wayland is a tough nut to crack. Glad it's not just me having troubles. [08:58] seb128, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Features/ABRT heh [08:59] bryceh, I think they just don't want to use somebody we did, they would need to admit to do useful things [09:00] somebody -> something [09:00] * seb128 not awake yet, coffee! [09:01] seb128, I think you may be right [09:01] to do -> we do [09:01] I should really start reading what I type [09:02] seb128, guess we have something to point to now next time they level accusations [09:02] they do what they want but it's a shame for them [09:03] looking through their bugzilla they are the ones who get the troubles [09:06] seb128, I'm sure Jef will spin it as a pro for fedora to have so many [09:09] My lord, that's a lot of [abrt] bugs. [09:14] RAOF, it is [09:14] RAOF, hey btw, did you have a good day? [09:15] Yeah, a fine day. [09:15] X bugs are less fun than hacking on C# code, though :) [09:15] lol [09:17] bryceh: I heard rumours that it's due to our contributor agreement requirement [09:17] ahh [09:31] does upstart have the same contrib agreement req? [09:31] I guess so [09:40] pitti, bug #551712 [09:40] Launchpad bug 551712 in gdm "slow transition from gdm to gnome desktop in ubuntu lucid" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/551712 [09:40] seb128: "ERROR: Broken attachment on bug, ignoring" -> hah, at least that part is working now in the retracers :) [09:40] what do you think would be to blame for it? [09:40] pitti, "The reason was that i had in the BIOS an inexistent floppy drive enabled. After disabling it the load takes about 3 seconds, in contrast to the 15~25secs before. " [09:41] pitti, that's the bug summary [09:41] pitti, oh, nice ;-) [09:41] seb128: udisks or gvfs, I think [09:42] but udisks shoudn't block, at most its udev probers (but they are async) [09:42] do you have any hint on what to ask to figure what is doing that? [09:43] seb128: (will respond in a bit, still busy with other IRC chats) [09:44] pitti, ok [09:44] pitti, no hurry [09:44] morning folks [09:44] seb128: this morning, latest lot of updates has my software center in the correct location :) [09:44] hey czajkowski [09:45] czajkowski, weird [09:45] very [09:45] it's probably some mvo magic there [09:45] but nice to see it there :) [09:46] seb128: I'd ask for a bootchart [09:46] seb128: it's the easiest thing where you can see where time is spent on [09:48] pitti, see the bug there is already bootcharts there [09:48] .png.tar.gz? [09:48] oh come on [09:49] why not .png.tar.gz.asc.zip.rar, to make it even more comfortable.. [09:49] I can't see anything weird in the charts though [09:50] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42500603/lance-desktop-lucid-20100330-5.png.tar.gz seems fine to me [09:50] it's a slow VIA CPU, apparently [09:50] but no hang [09:51] well no nautilus, etc either [09:51] hm, right [09:52] seb128: you could compare it with a second login after logigng out, when udisks etc. is already running [09:52] pitti, thanks for the hint [09:53] I've a similar issue on a box I think, I don't have access to this one right now but will check later the bios floppy hint [09:53] seb128: or drop gnome-panel from /etc/init.d/bootchart, so that it goes on for a minute [09:53] if that's the same bug will be easier to debug locally [09:54] hum [09:54] * seb128 subscribes pitti to bug #557669 [09:54] Launchpad bug 557669 in nautilus "nautilus missing eject option for cd/dvd-rom" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557669 [09:55] * seb128 stops bothering pitti then, enough IRC ping for a morning there [09:55] heh, NP :) [09:55] I'm wondering if this one is a side effect of you usb eject change [09:57] seb128, do you know if webkit in lucid is getting an upgrade to 1.2.0? [09:57] rodrigo_, I plan to do sync the new one after beta2 yes [09:58] rodrigo_, hey btw ;-) [09:58] seb128, ah, ok [09:58] rodrigo_, do you want the update or you want to make sure we don't update for a reason? ;-) [09:58] seb128, well, there's a crash on the music store that happens in webkit, and I'm just looking at what produces it [09:59] ok [09:59] debian has 1.2 if that can be useful to you [10:00] rodrigo_, http://incoming.debian.org/ [10:00] you can find debs there [10:00] oh, ok, will try that [10:03] its strange ... have solid color in gnome-terminal but its always transparent :/ [10:04] RAOF, bug #557747 [10:04] Launchpad bug 557747 in f-spot "f-spot crashes when trying to export photos to smugmug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557747 [10:04] RAOF, could be a gnome-keyring-sharp issue? [10:05] asac, right, known bug, you need to set transparent and the slider on the limit [10:05] asac, solid means = what theme defines right now [10:06] ah ok. cool [10:07] That does look like a gnome-keyring(-sharp) bug. [10:08] But that looks like the gnome-keyring daemon has died, too, so raising an I/O exception seems to be the right response. [10:19] mvo: oh [10:20] mvo: apturl doesnt block anymore? [10:20] ;) [10:20] how can i see if the install succeeded or failed? [10:20] asac: hey, did you try copying UNE config for -efl? (in other terms, do we need the new package?) [10:21] asac: it should be the same as in karmic, that code has not really changed [10:21] asac: and it works for me(tm) [10:22] mvo: i run " apturl apt:mozilla-plugin-gnash?section=universe" [10:22] that just returns [10:22] and then the dialog pops up [10:23] didrocks: UNE config is in which package? [10:23] i have to ask someone to test it as i have no install for that here atm [10:24] asac: as told yesterday, ubuntu-netbook-default-settings, and change all "une" to "une-efl" or whatever you called the .destkop session file [10:25] didrocks: you didnt say the package name yesterday ;) [10:25] thx [10:25] asac: is universe disabled for you? still no luck reporudcing [10:25] mvo: hmm. no its definitly enabled [10:25] i have a huge sources.list ;) [10:26] maybe something is running that is then used ? [10:26] 2010-04-08 09:28:51 didrocks 16:56:21> asac: for testing, you can copy every files (but netbook-launcher) containing "une" in the path and replace them with "une-efl" (/etc/xdg-efl mostly and gconf related stuff) from the ubuntu-netbook-default-settings package [10:26] like update-manager etc.? [10:26]