| CIA-3 | wubi: Agostino Russo * r180 trunk/ (debian/changelog src/wubi/application.py): Fixed CD menu reboot (LP: #543032) | 01:25 |
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| CIA-3 | wubi: Agostino Russo * r181 trunk/ (data/grub.install.cfg debian/changelog): Safe graphic mode boot option was disabled (LP: #550539) | 02:15 |
| cjwatson | dmarkey: sure, it would need to be (hd0,1) or whatever in order to actually work, and it's probably worth fixing it up, but it really doesn't actually mattere | 05:08 |
| cjwatson | *matter | 05:08 |
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| kusum | can anyone here expalin me the preseed file | 06:11 |
| dmarkey | cjwatson: when instaling an ordinary ubuntu, it's (hd0,1), when installing paravirtualised under xen, its /dev/xvda. which unfortunately crashes pygrub | 08:05 |
| dmarkey | im pretty sure it was (hd0,1) in 9.10 under xen | 08:06 |
| dmarkey | what ever script populates that is trying to make the mapping from /dev/xvda to the disk number out of the bios, the paravirtualised xen doesnt have a bios | 08:15 |
| dmarkey | so i assume it falls back to xvda | 08:15 |
| ogra | cjwatson, i'm a bit lost with the OAMP images and could need some advice, the design is supposed to be as follows: install runs from SD (OAMP uboot cant boot from USB) targeting a USB disk but using SD for /boot, since the SD is mounted i cant format it but only replace uImage/uInitrd during install, but i need UUID->/boot for it in fstab after first boot | 10:32 |
| ogra | *OMAP | 10:33 |
| ogra | is there (hopefully not to intrusive) way to achieve that in ubiquity/d-i ? | 10:33 |
| ogra | i could use flash-kernel-installer for mangling fstab and putting the files in place but that feels very very ugly | 10:35 |
| cjwatson | the usual way to do that kind of thing is to have a partman fstab.d component that spits out the right line as appropriate | 10:43 |
| ogra | hmm, i couls use partman-uboot for that i suppose | 10:43 |
| ogra | *could | 10:43 |
| ogra | that still leaves the prob that the Sd cant be mounted on /boot at install time though | 10:44 |
| ogra | oh, wait, i could bind mount/umount it while flash-kernel-installer runs | 10:45 |
| dmarkey | cjwatson: hey, do you have a quick sec to talk about this root=(/dev/xvda,0) issue i've come across? | 10:50 |
| cjwatson | dmarkey: it's a consequence of not having device.map any more | 10:50 |
| cjwatson | it's not xen-specific or anything - it also shouldn't be harmful in any way | 10:50 |
| dmarkey | i tried to install 10.04 on a normal machine, and root=(hd0,0) | 10:51 |
| cjwatson | I do want to clean it up for 10.04 somehow, but essentially so that people stop asking about it rather than anything else :) | 10:51 |
| cjwatson | set root= is almost entirely irrelevant nowadays. the UUID search command immediately afterwards is what normally *actually* finds the root partition | 10:51 |
| cjwatson | set root= is basically just insurance fallback | 10:51 |
| dmarkey | hmm, you see, xen uses pygrub, which relies on root= to be the proper notation | 10:52 |
| cjwatson | (and yes, the current situation means that that insurance fallback won't work properly, but there are lots of situations where it would go wrong anyway) | 10:52 |
| cjwatson | pygrub is grub legacy only, is it not? | 10:52 |
| dmarkey | no, grub2 aswell | 10:52 |
| cjwatson | oh, that's news to me | 10:52 |
| dmarkey | very new patches | 10:52 |
| cjwatson | they haven't been mentioned on grub-devel@ | 10:52 |
| dmarkey | but they are in xen 4.0, which was released yesturday | 10:52 |
| cjwatson | anyway, I'll see if I can fix this up | 10:53 |
| dmarkey | that would be *great* | 10:53 |
| cjwatson | have been trying to get rid of device.map in general, and this is one of the bits of fallout | 10:54 |
| dmarkey | i see | 10:55 |
| dmarkey | having said that pygrub grub2 support is very limited, just enough to boot the system. | 10:59 |
| dmarkey | also, i'm ready to test that PAE image/initrd when you get the chance to build it | 11:11 |
| cjwatson | I can't do anything | 11:12 |
| cjwatson | I asked #ubuntu-kernel to apply an appropriate patch to build the udebs | 11:12 |
| cjwatson | but until that's applied, there's no point asking me I'm afraid | 11:12 |
| dmarkey | oh i see | 11:13 |
| dmarkey | sorry bout that | 11:13 |
| cjwatson | that's ok | 11:13 |
| ev | cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/410986/ | 11:50 |
| cjwatson | ev: out of sheer paranoia I'd put a DebconfError guard around the db.get as well, and maybe ret > 0 rather than != to match the code below (or change the code below?) | 11:53 |
| cjwatson | dmarkey: ok, (/dev/xvda,*) thing should be fixed shortly | 12:01 |
| dmarkey | cjwatson: good stuff, may i ask what logic you are using for that | 12:04 |
| cjwatson | probe all devices explicitly in 'grub-probe --target=drive' if /boot/grub/device.map is missing | 12:06 |
| cjwatson | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/lucid/grub2/lucid/revision/1963 | 12:07 |
| dmarkey | cool. will this be in the daily snapshot so i can test it? | 12:09 |
| cjwatson | dunno when I'll upload it exactly | 12:11 |
| cjwatson | sometime after beta-2 | 12:11 |
| dmarkey | ok i'll wait | 12:13 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: evand * r4057 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog debian/ubiquity.templates): | 12:27 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: Let the user know why we're starting a desktop session or rebooting | 12:27 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: when ubiquity in only mode crashes. If in automatic mode, the | 12:27 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: default is to reboot. Preseed ubiquity/reboot_on_failure to false | 12:27 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: to start a desktop session instead. | 12:27 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: evand * r4058 ubiquity/debian/changelog: Add LP freeze exception request bug for previous commit. | 12:40 |
| dmarkey | Kevin`: welcome | 12:42 |
| Kevin` | :/ | 12:49 |
| Kevin` | my cable died for a while, no sync at all | 12:49 |
| dmarkey | how much of this stuff is backported to the debian installer | 12:49 |
| Kevin` | I assume that wasn't a question to me | 12:50 |
| dmarkey | anyone really | 12:51 |
| Kevin` | if you mean xen, they have/had a dedicated installer for it. i'm not sure if now, with proper pvops support, they have integrated the two. i'm kinda stuck on lenny | 12:52 |
| dmarkey | if we have ubuntu xen/domu support, it should be easy to get debian/domu xen support | 12:52 |
| rgreening_ | ev: ping | 13:43 |
| ev | rgreening_: pong | 13:45 |
| rgreening_ | how are ya? | 13:46 |
| rgreening_ | ev: usb-creator seems to mount the partitions from my usb stick automatically. I guess this is ok, however, and interesting side effect is that if I now close usb-creator-kde without making the startup disk, it leaves the partitions mounted. This is problematic for current KDE as KDE's Solid back-end is still using HAL, and Solid/HAL cannot umount any device mounted by UDisks. This leaves the device hanging for the user. Thoughts? | 13:46 |
| ev | HAL is dead upstream. | 13:49 |
| ev | completely | 13:49 |
| ev | I'd say this is a bug in Solid more than anything else | 13:50 |
| ev | usb-creator leaves partitions mounted purposefully. I don't want to get into the corner cases of is this a partition we mounted or was it already, is the user still using the partition, and so on. | 13:51 |
| ev | oh, missed the start of that -- I'm good, thanks! How are you? | 13:52 |
| rgreening_ | ev: I agree, however, Solid does not have a proper way to deal with UDisks atm | 13:52 |
| rgreening_ | Im good. Going to UDS :) | 13:52 |
| ev | woohoo! | 13:52 |
| rgreening_ | hehe | 13:52 |
| * ev shrugs | 13:53 | |
| ev | so we definitely couldn't do anything about it for lucid - we're in hard freeze here, and I would hope that the Solid folks get their act together in the next six months. | 13:54 |
| rgreening_ | ev: yeah. true enuff. Im hoping they get the backend updated. | 13:54 |
| rgreening_ | ev: got any specific plans for maverick for the stuff you are working on? Anything I'd be interested in :) | 13:56 |
| ev | rgreening_: so we *may* have a summer of code student working on some usb-creator stuff. | 14:00 |
| rgreening_ | cool. for mac? win? something else? | 14:01 |
| ev | <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2010/Ideas#usb-creator Improvements> | 14:01 |
| * rgreening_ reads | 14:01 | |
| ev | in ubiquity-land we'll be doing a redesign | 14:02 |
| ev | we may also have a summer of code student to do wubi migration | 14:02 |
| rgreening_ | cool | 14:03 |
| rgreening_ | ev: we need to make sure that if the gtk frontend changes or any backend changes which could affect the kde frontend are taken into consideration for the GSOC project. | 14:04 |
| rgreening_ | sounds good otherwise :P | 14:04 |
| ev | yarp | 14:05 |
| * rgreening_ wishes I had time ot get the server piece done this cycle... stupid $work | 14:05 | |
| ev | entirely understandable | 14:05 |
| rgreening_ | work wouldn't be a problem if I had been hired for the foundations team ;) | 14:05 |
| rgreening_ | ha | 14:05 |
| ev | heh, indeed | 14:05 |
| * rgreening_ is still interested in a job with canonical though | 14:06 | |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: evand * r4059 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog oem-config.templates): | 14:15 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: Make oem-config/install-language-support false by default. OEMs | 14:15 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: should only be turning this on if they've provided all the possible | 14:15 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: langpacks in oem-config/repository or can guarantee an Internet | 14:15 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: connection (LP: #539710). | 14:15 |
| ev | they're always hiring :) | 14:18 |
| rgreening_ | yup | 14:40 |
| rgreening_ | just not in the right area .. foundations would have been awesome... and Im not into ARM as such... | 14:41 |
| kusum | Could somebody explain me the lines in preseed.cfg file please | 14:43 |
| cjwatson | kusum: not in such general terms | 14:59 |
| cjwatson | kusum: you need to ask specific questions | 15:00 |
| dmarkey | kusum: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=site:ubuntu.com+ubuntu+preseed&meta=&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= | 15:02 |
| kusum | cjwatson: dmarkey : How is the wubildr.mbr handled when we select ubuntu on the grub | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | wubildr.mbr is a grub image that's configured to load the appropriate disk image using grub's loopback module, and then chain through to the grub.cfg in that image | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | see data/wubildr.cfg in wubi | 15:21 |
| shtylman | ev: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/04/digital-economy-bill-passes-in-the-uk.ars < --- looks like you guys have it worse than us | 15:57 |
| ev | shtylman: not at all | 15:58 |
| shtylman | heh | 15:58 |
| ev | there's a lot of shouting going on over something that's not all that bad | 15:58 |
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| shtylman | sounds pretty bad from the article | 15:58 |
| ev | the big thing that everyone is complaining about is that if you get caught breaking copyright three times, they can disconnect you from the internet | 15:58 |
| shtylman | sounds like the matrix :) | 15:59 |
| shtylman | if you die online... do you die in real life? | 15:59 |
| ev | that's already the case in the states, only they can do it on the first occurrence | 15:59 |
| shtylman | :( | 15:59 |
| ev | Keybuk pointed out something interesting though | 16:00 |
| ev | from his reading of the bill, he gathered that you could have someone disconnected from the internet if they violated the GPL | 16:00 |
| shtylman | oh... man... | 16:01 |
| shtylman | that would be epic | 16:01 |
| ev | hahahaha | 16:01 |
| superm1 | ev, re r4057, would it be possible to call the fail late command before rebooting if it were preseeded to provide consistency with what happens if the failure occurs later? | 17:32 |
| ev | absolutely | 17:32 |
| superm1 | (of ubiquity that is) | 17:32 |
| ev | sorry for the oversight there | 17:32 |
| superm1 | great thanks | 17:33 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: evand * r4060 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog): Call ubiquity/failure_command if we crash in only ubiquity mode. | 17:40 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r4061 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py): | 17:50 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: * GTK frontend: | 17:50 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: - Re-fetch translations before calling plugin_translate (LP: #552673). | 17:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 552673 in ubiquity "Inactive labels on user setup page appear untranslated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/552673 | 17:50 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: evand * r3922 ubiquity.testing/ (3 files in 2 dirs): | 19:16 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: * Clean up tests/run, only recgenerate templates if modified. | 19:16 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: * Provide testPluginsLoadProperly and testReturnToPartitioning tests. | 19:16 |
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