=== BUGa_vacations is now known as BUGa_sleeping [01:02] why don't they just buy Yahoo!? [01:02] mahfouz: M$, Google, or Canonical? [01:02] M$ had their chance, now it's our time! [01:03] let's all chip in :) [01:03] mahfouz: Canonical Yahoo! powered by M$? [01:03] powered by bing [01:05] micahg - did you do any work to disable the test suite for xulrunner on ia64? [01:05] chrisccoulson: only research that it's hard code disabled on FF and the same would probably work for xul [01:06] micahg - so, it's not a build-time option then? [01:06] chrisccoulson: it is [01:06] but it's hard coded in the options ATM [01:06] oh, that's ok then [01:06] in addition to the flag [01:07] micahg - do you want me to do that? [01:07] i might do that before i finish for the evening [01:07] chrisccoulson: yes, please, and update the bug, probably better if you use the flag and check for IA64 arch if you can [01:07] otherwise disable and we'll fix after release [01:10] chrisccoulson: take a look at at lines 30-35 in debian/rules and line 163 for the arch test [01:11] micahg - thanks, just looking there [01:49] asac - did you have a look at the xulrunner ia64 build failure at all? [01:50] i think i understand why it doesn't work now [01:51] bdrung - thanks for fixing some of those extensions [02:24] hi .. how to check the ff default player? [02:25] * e-jat since my ff cant work streaming video using totem but my chromium can === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | ML: http://is.gd/83fnr | to get firefox 3.6 run: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable" - then use update-manager to update your system | whats up with firefox + search + lucid: was Yahoo! http://is.gd/83e8U now Google again http://is.gd/bjmtS | Next Meeting: TBA [03:15] chrisccoulson: you really think we should keep noscript even though they release a new version every week? [03:15] micahg - i'm not sure really. asac seems quite keen to keep that one [03:15] chrisccoulson: I'll talk to him about it again in the morning [03:15] cool, thanks [03:16] right, bed time for me now [03:16] chrisccoulson: k, in the morning, can you push edbrowse? [03:16] micahg - yeah, no problem [03:16] chrisccoulson: k, thanks, there's a bug and you're subscribed [05:09] [reed]: is there any way to edit an attachment in bugzilla or I just add another patch? [07:47] - xulrunner-1.9.2 (1.9.2.4~hg20100406r33809+nobinonly -> 1.9.2.4~hg20100408r34017+nobinonly) [49.00MB (+2583kB, +5.27%)] [07:47] - firefox (3.6.4~hg20100406r33809+nobinonly -> 3.6.4~hg20100408r34017+nobinonly) [49.70MB (+2528kB, +5.08%)] [07:47] asac, ^^ 5% ?? [07:47] micahg, ^^ [07:48] fta: ugh [07:48] * micahg looks [07:48] * micahg needs to pay mroe attention to those logs [07:48] fta: yep, that's right, lorentz landed [07:50] firefox has broken patches ATM though, will try to fix this weekend [07:50] earlier if I need a distraction :) [07:50] they landed such a big thing in 1.9.2 but not in trunk? weird.. and scary [07:50] fta: was already in trunk, it's the OOPP code [07:51] oh, ok [07:51] n-m then [07:52] * micahg could probably fix the firefox patches on the bus... [09:09] fta: they want to add features in security updates now ;) [09:09] thats mozs new model based on chromium ;) [09:10] yep [09:13] grrr, we now need to login to get the plain text version from a paste.ubuntu.com url [09:18] jdstrand: so should we add a new section like "# package management integration" ... where we whitelist apturl? [09:18] fta: they change that all the time [09:19] i complained a few times, and they changed it back [09:19] not sure why they started doing it now again ;) [09:22] it's just for the plain text download part [09:41] fta: yes. someone hosted warez on pastebin iirc [09:41] lol [09:42] or virusses or something ... dont remember [09:45] !info libnss3-dev jaunty [09:45] libnss3-dev (source: nss): Development files for the Network Security Service libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 3.12.3.1-0ubuntu0.9.04.2 (jaunty), package size 249 kB, installed size 1416 kB [09:45] fta: we are going to bump that sooner or later i guess [09:47] i'm trying to fix the long lasting ftbfs of chromium on jaunty/amd64.. need a pbuilder for that [09:47] pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: libnss3-dev (>= 3.12.3) but it is not installable [09:48] hmm [09:48] odd [09:48] maybe something in universe? [09:48] adding -updates [09:48] fta: do you have security and -updates enabled? [09:49] yeah [09:56] damn ... apparmor is busted [09:56] have to reboot as i have no clue how to get back to start [09:58] diæs ! [10:02] fta: there it goes again... out of nowhere, chromium puffs! how can I run this in debug ? [10:02] -g [10:03] or let it crash and use apport [10:03] apport didn't kick [10:03] sigh [10:03] i think i made firefox not start ;) [10:04] hmm what did i do? [10:04] chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra-dbgsym: [10:04] Depends: chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra (=0.5+svn20100326r42726+42573+42890-0ubuntu1) but 0.5+svn20100406r43776+43809+43834-0ubuntu1~ucd1 is to be installed [10:04] fta: ^^^ [10:05] -dbg not -dbgsym [10:05] ok [10:05] BUGabundo, ^^ [10:05] installing [10:05] strange ... aa isnt loaded at all now [10:06] fta: seems to be SSL related [10:08] i doubt it [10:08] I get it almost everytime I open brainbird.net with a self signed cert [10:08] but we will know more once this installs [10:09] kenvandine: can we get a patch to NOT limit to 140 chars, and read the proper API site limit for SN ? [10:15] fta: HEELLLPPPPP the bookmark toolbar is not showing when pressing ctrl+B [10:15] bug 552531 ? [10:15] Launchpad bug 552531 in chromium-browser "Bookmark is cut" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/552531 [10:15] :(((( [10:15] i'm busy right now, sorry. file bugs please [10:19] err LP fail :( [11:06] asac: are you around? [11:07] gnomefreak: no :) [11:07] :) we are changing back to google as default search? [11:07] fta: can we talk about debian when you are back? [11:08] fta: can you help me and make the copyright gen use properly sorted order, so we can update stuff and get good diffs? [11:08] i would like to do an update run and push current thing to debian [11:16] gnomefreak: yes, we changed... to please users migrating [11:16] makes sense but that means the $ wont be there [11:16] or not :) [11:17] do you play poker? [11:17] ever heard of a bluff check to see ? [11:17] yep [11:30] asac - i switched off the xulrunner test suite for ia64 now, but i looked at it last night and it should be easy to fix (bug 555127) [11:30] Launchpad bug 555127 in xulrunner-1.9.2 "build failure on ia64" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/555127 [11:30] but [11:30] i'm not sure where to find the information that i need ;) [11:33] I was helping a friend of mine Tuesday and i will tell this is a nasty fucking thing, http://www.malwarehelp.org/virus-protector-removal-2010.html i didnt have the sites until today, but its fixed :) [11:33] ill be back i need to make coffee [11:35] fta: asac: gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/410981/ [11:35] chromium crash [11:36] bahh /lib/libdbus-1.so.3 [11:39] erk [11:39] $ dpkg -S libdbus-1.so.3 [11:39] ia32-libs: /lib32/libdbus-1.so.3 [11:39] libdbus-1-3: /lib/libdbus-1.so.3 [11:39] no dbg package for ia32? [11:39] :\ [11:42] i guess songbird is still FTBFS but im still not here waiting for coffee so i can think [11:43] BUGabundo, it's not the ia32 one, try libdbus-1-3-dbgsym [11:45] chrisccoulson: br.ret ... we need the hex for that i guess [11:45] asac - yeah, that's the bit i'm stuck at. i'm not sure how to find that out [11:46] fta: instaled and running [11:46] trying to see what's making it crash [11:46] chrisccoulson: disassemble something [11:46] check what the hexcode for the br.ret you get is ;) [11:47] asac - ok, that's one way [11:47] or looking at compiler code or so ;) [11:47] maybe see if someone in -devel knows ;) [11:48] i guess its too early for me to check email or TB hates me today. [11:48] The RETR command did not succeed. Error retrieving a message. Mail server pop.gmail.com responded: Please reconnect and try again. [11:48] asac - i'm not sure what IA64 is really. i have the intel instruction set reference for Intel(R) 64 and IA-32 architectures, but i'm not sure if IA64 is the same ;) [11:49] but, i will try disassembling something anyway [11:50] yeah [11:51] better than disabling all tests [11:51] would be to add upstream patch to disable this test for all archs not defined in there ;) [11:52] yeah, that would probably be better [11:53] ah [11:54] chrisccoulson: can you please resurrect debian/patches/bzXXX_plugin_for_mimetype_pref.patch [11:54] from xulrunner 1.9.1 to ffox 3.6? [11:54] asac - is it possible to disassemble for a different architecture? (i just did objdump -d on the binary, and i get "objdump: Can't disassemble for architecture UNKNOWN!") [11:54] asac - yeah, i can do that [11:54] seems that was forgotten [11:55] chrisccoulson: good question. probably needs a cross toolchain thing? ... hmm [11:55] chrisccoulson: we have ia64 porter boxes [11:55] you can log in there [11:55] that might be better [11:55] chrisccoulson: machineoverview on internal wiki [11:56] seems its halley [11:56] yeah ... and one can even log in ;) [11:58] asac - thanks, i found that now. but i need to get an account on it first [11:58] chrisccoulson: hmm. afaik we all should have porter box access [11:58] e.g. whole platform [11:58] asac - hmmm, i get "Permission denied (publickey)" [11:58] chrisccoulson: check with #is [11:59] asac - will do, thanks [11:59] chrisccoulson: did you do all your "starter" tasks ;) [11:59] ? [11:59] i think so ;) [11:59] * asac has no idea what that involves atm [12:30] !info zlib1g [12:30] zlib1g (source: zlib): compression library - runtime. In component main, is required. Version 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-15ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 74 kB, installed size 164 kB [12:30] !info zlib1g unstable [12:30] 'unstable' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner [12:30] damn old [12:31] fta: check with debian maintainer whats going on ;) [12:32] http://zlib.net/ChangeLog.txt we missed 1.2.3.{4,5,6,7,8,9} and 1.2.4 [12:32] unstable has 1.2.3.4 and experimental 1.2.3.5 [12:34] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=38073 === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_lunch [13:27] asac - is there any reason why firefox doesn't provide an alternative for gnome-www-browser (bug 408238)? [13:27] Launchpad bug 408238 in firefox-3.5 "does not provide gnome-www-browser" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408238 [13:27] (apparently it used to, but doesn't anymore) [13:32] ok this is really starting to get to me. Is there a way to set how many chars per line in TB? [13:33] chrisccoulson: gnome-www-browser [13:34] is that still used somewhere? [13:34] thought it was dead ;) [13:34] asac - i'm not sure. some other browsers still provide alternatives for it, and firefox-gnome-support has a "Provides: gnome-www-browser" but doesn't create the alternative [13:35] so, i think we should either drop the provides or create the alternative. i'm just not sure which ;) [13:42] from what i can see it is used by galeon epiphany-browser and kazehakase at least the ones i have installed (most gtk browsers [13:42] ) [13:42] and text based but they are under diff. cat. [13:44] x-www-browser has alot more listed than the ones i gave above [13:44] looks like all of them (7 of them) [13:44] gnomefreak, yeah, firefox does provide x-www-browser, just not gnome-www-browser [13:45] seems like most dont use gnome-www-browser [13:47] chrisccoulson: also on the bug do we really need 3.0 and 3.5 tasks since we are changin to "firefox" for all releases? however i dont think we updated/changed in any other release except Lucid atm [13:47] gnomefreak- the older tasks should be wontfix really [13:48] ok im there ill change them [13:49] thanks [13:49] chrisccoulson: np === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGa_vacations === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [14:52] micahg: 1.9.2.* [14:58] asac: apturl added. too late to create a new abstraction in AppArmor, but I added apturl to the 'should maybe be in an abstraction' area of the profile and made a note to investigate abstracting it [15:03] asac: http://noscript.net/changelog [15:03] jdstrand: sure. thats fine [15:03] thanks [15:03] jdstrand: committed to our branch? [15:06] asac: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/722 [15:20] asac: yeah-- committed to 3.6.head and trunk [15:20] thx [15:21] tbh, I've never used apturl. it is kinda spiffy [15:22] bug 556549 [15:22] Launchpad bug 556549 in openjdk-6 "PCKS11 security provider not working" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/556549 [16:44] fta: yet another [16:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/411108/ [17:29] BUGa_vacations, doesn't ring a bell. please file a bug (upstream), i'll Cc some devs [17:30] ok [17:33] fta: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=40803 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:32] asac - for adding bzXXX_plugin_for_mimetype_pref.patch to firefox - was there a bug reported for that (so I can close it in the changelog)? [18:35] fta: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/969355 [18:36] heh [18:36] i've seen that posted a few times today ;) [18:38] chrisccoulson: I wonder by whom [18:48] chrisccoulson: no. it was part of a spec [18:48] asac - ok, no worries [18:48] chrisccoulson: we should add a bugtask for firefox to 520166 [18:48] and close that [18:50] asac - ok, i will do that. did you have any opinion on using bz467738_att351145_lockPref_everywhere.patch in firefox? (i can't remember if you said that needed other changes or not) [19:04] ripps, just sent the codecs without sse3/llrint to the daily ppa, could you please try (once it's built) and let me know? [19:04] fta: will do [19:05] So the only difference between between google-chrome and chromium-codecs was that chromium-codecs was built with extra cpu instructions my cpu doesn't use? [19:06] This might have been the cause of a number of crashes I got using chromium [19:09] well, no. we're supposed to use the same build flags [19:09] if it didn't crash using chrome, then it's another issue [19:30] asac: we've had a few people with bug 558620 [19:30] Launchpad bug 558620 in thunderbird "Thunderbird moves profile folder to .thunderbird.upstream" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/558620 [19:31] asac: should I modify the script not to move it by default or add something to the profile folder to say don't move again? [20:20] micahg: question is why they explain [20:20] err complain ;) [20:21] asac: well, I think some extensions have the profile dir hard coded [20:21] so ... is it 1) that they used upstream builds, but not our build? [20:21] asac: and once it starts, it creates the old dir again [20:21] or 2) that they had an old .thunderbird for whatever reason lying around [20:21] asac: none of the above [20:21] micahg: not sure what you mean with "creates the old dir again" [20:21] what is the problem? [20:21] asac: those were the use cases we planned for [20:21] they dont get their expected profile? [20:22] asac: it seems like some extensions create the .mozilla-thunderbird directory [20:22] micahg: if thunderbird.upstream exists, we dont migrate .mozilla-thunderbird anymore [20:22] thats what we should do imo [20:22] thought we already did that [20:23] asac: I need to look into it further to figure out whether it's something in the extension or something in TB [20:23] asac: yeah, we did that already [20:23] micahg: oh the other reason why they have .mozilla-thunderbird is probably that if they upgrade [20:23] and run thunderbird while its running, we migrate the profile [20:23] but then when they close thunderbird it writes stuff to .mozilla-thunderbird still [20:23] asac: ah, that could be it [20:24] let me think [20:25] asac: it seems to happen after the start of thunderbird 3 and the migration [20:25] asac: we already had another case where an extension was at fault, maybe it's a setting in the profile for the profile dir that needs to be updated [20:31] !ddeb [20:32] fta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [20:35] micahg: can you try to reproduce it the way i said? [20:35] if that works we can try if migrating + creating a link to the new location will fix that [20:36] asac: we don't migrate until it's run, not on install [20:36] sure [20:36] asac: I can create a symlink once the migration occurs [20:36] so on first run ... migrate if .thunderbird.upstream doesnt exist and create a link ... ln -s $HOME/.thunderbird $HOME/.mozilla-thunderbird [20:36] that would probably solve the problem [20:37] asac: profile paths shouldn't be hard coded anywhere in the sqlite DBs or prefs IMHO :) [20:39] well. as i said i am sure quite a lot of problems come from shutting down running instances [20:39] but i just checked and -remote "PING()" wouldnt really help us here [20:39] so we should use the symlink approach [20:39] asac: ah, your theory is that it doesn't actually close when the new version is started [20:39] missed that ebfore [20:39] well it doesnt [20:39] if you click on tbird a second time it will just raise to front [20:39] unless that feature regressed ;) [20:40] but we will just migrate the profile and then raise it to front [20:40] asac: should we do anything for current installs? [20:40] so the current running instance is still using old profile and when shutdown it saves state to old location [20:40] no [20:40] i.e. preinst checks for tb3 and creates symlink [20:40] i think there is nothing needed besides making the migration better with symlink [20:41] dont see what preinst should do [20:41] just migrator script [20:41] asac: add the symlink for people that alredy migrated [20:41] nah [20:41] or shoul dI do that in the sheel script? [20:41] even that would be in the migrator script [20:42] if .mozilla-thunderbird doesnt exist we can create the link [20:42] asac: -d won't register true for a symlink, right? [20:42] so we cover those old installs that worked well [20:42] -L it is afaik [20:42] check manpage ;) [20:42] asac: k, just want to make sure on next run the symlink isn't migrated [20:43] asac: I'll work on it this weekend amongst everything else [20:43] -h file True if file exists and is a symbolic link. [20:43] so actually -h [20:43] -L seems to be not portable [20:43] asac: I'll add it to the end of the script [20:44] not sure [20:45] imo should be coded where current migration logic is [20:45] I was going to add it right after the migration logic [20:46] dont have it in front of me [20:46] do it ... and show [20:46] have to review [20:46] asac: k [20:46] asac: are we planning on backporting mozilla-devscripts to hardy? [20:46] *latest [20:52] guess we need it for a bunch of extensions [20:53] do we need it for anything else? [20:54] asac: prism and fennec will be using it for the clean target for xulrunner, but that's not critical [20:54] yeh [20:58] asac: I don't know anything else offhand [21:33] fta: I'm still getting the same crash in chromium, are you sure it's not using sse2/3 anymore? [21:33] which version? [21:33] fta: daily ppa [21:33] 0.5+svn20100406r43776+43809+43834-0ubuntu1~ucd2 [21:34] 5.0.371.0~svn20100408r43913-0ubuntu1~ucd2 [21:34] hm, 0.5+svn20100406r43776+43809+43834-0ubuntu1~ucd2 is the one i patched [21:36] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43464869/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.chromium-codecs-ffmpeg_0.5%2Bsvn20100406r43776%2B43809%2B43834-0ubuntu1~ucd2_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz [21:36] look for HAVE_SSSE3 [21:37] did you fully restart the browser? [21:38] fta: first start since reboot, I've been using google-chrome [21:39] is the crash the same? [21:39] could you let apport resolve it? so we have the asm too [21:39] fta: how do I do that? apport doesn't seem to react when it crashes [21:40] do you have a file in /var/crash? [21:40] if so, click on it (in nautilus) [21:41] it should complain it's not a genuine package at some point but after it has modified that crash file [21:41] fta: yeah, but it's pretty old [21:41] not the one then [21:41] is it enabled? /etc/default/apport [21:43] I have to run it as --single-process, otherwise the only the tab crashes, and chromium won't flag apport [21:43] okay, what do I do with the .crash? [21:44] once resolved by apport, i extract it manually: apport-unpack /var/crash/something /tmp/foo [21:44] if the trace is correct, i post it on a bug [21:45] otherwise, i install the missing dbg/dbgsym, edit the crash file to remove the end (added during resolve) and re-resolve again [21:49] fta: apport says I don't have enough memory to analyze to send to developers [21:49] doh [21:51] then go back to -g --single-process [21:51] make it crash [21:52] and; [21:52] (gdb) backtrace full [21:52] (gdb) info registers [21:52] (gdb) x/16i $pc [21:52] (gdb) thread apply all backtrace [21:52] as mentioned in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace [21:53] yeah, I know how to this [21:53] i meant it for the registers part [21:54] in fact, we need the asm part [22:00] fta: okay, uploaded it to the bug [22:09] fta: wait, so the codecs are still building with sse3 code, despite them being disabled? [22:09] seems so [22:11] asac - are you available to do a xulrunner upload at all? [22:12] on a call [22:12] chrisccoulson: is all done? [22:12] gimme details [22:12] i can upload after or tomorrow morning [22:12] do you know if archive opens early? [22:12] asac - i'll do another test build tonight and have it ready for tomorrow morning [22:12] sure that works [22:12] i'm not sure when the archive opens again