| nigelb | hyperair, hey :) | 02:39 |
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| nigelb | nhandler, can you sign up on the wiki for the hours that you can ... helps me when i try to convince another person :) | 02:56 |
| nhandler | I'll take a few more. | 03:10 |
| nigelb | perfect. | 03:18 |
| * nigelb moves to next target :D | 03:18 | |
| nhandler | I might need to reschedule a slot, but I'll leave it the way it is for now | 03:23 |
| nigelb | ah, thanks, so thats less slots to fill in | 03:24 |
| nigelb | I think I'll make it standard format to put IRC nick as display :) | 03:25 |
| nigelb | maco, um... if your schedule permits, can you sign up for a few hours on the patch wiki? If its too undecided, later is fine too :) | 03:30 |
| nigelb | but it would really help me when I'm trying to recruit when a few people have already signed up | 03:33 |
| maco | nigelb: saturday may 5th? | 03:41 |
| maco | nigelb: check your calendar | 03:41 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:07 |
| dholbach | wow | 10:44 |
| dholbach | the patch day is getting more and more publicity | 10:44 |
| dholbach | it's on major german news sites | 10:44 |
| dholbach | we better ramp up docs and stuff a bit | 10:44 |
| nigelb | dholbach, you wanted a rewrite of the review guide (was reading logs earlier today) ? | 14:17 |
| nigelb | maco, oops. thanks, I'll correct it now :) | 14:17 |
| dholbach | nigelb: not rewrite it, but add examples, etc | 14:24 |
| nigelb | dholbach, ah, I'll try to work it in today :) | 14:25 |
| nigelb | dholbach, I need some help with rectruiting too | 14:26 |
| dholbach | nigelb: I suggest that before we start recruiting, we have a look at the docs together | 14:26 |
| dholbach | like all of us | 14:26 |
| nigelb | dholbach, I already started. I'll put the docs into an etherpad :) | 14:27 |
| dholbach | I would have preferred them to be in tiptop shape before we announce, so that people who look at it directly get it and get all their questions answered | 14:27 |
| dholbach | but hey, we can always send another announce :) | 14:27 |
| nigelb | I did the announce hoping I'd get to work on the wiki in a few hours | 14:28 |
| nigelb | but yday was a bad day at work + no power here | 14:28 |
| nigelb | and yes we can do another announce, since I missed the last classroom session I planned due to now power :( | 14:28 |
| persia | Docs first. Another announce later. | 14:30 |
| nigelb | yup | 14:30 |
| nigelb | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/qIEl4uiI8v | 14:30 |
| persia | Saturday, May 5th needs some help though :) | 14:30 |
| nigelb | here's the etherpad.. lets dive in | 14:30 |
| nigelb | I'm getting to the saturday thing | 14:30 |
| nigelb | I lost power before I saw her reply | 14:30 |
| persia | heh. You're good at that, but you can't catch me this evening. | 14:30 |
| nigelb | persia, busy evening? | 14:31 |
| persia | I have a few things I want to get done for tomorrow. | 14:31 |
| nigelb | sure, daniel's around :) | 14:32 |
| dholbach | errr :) | 14:32 |
| dholbach | I'll try, need to get a few other things out of the way first | 14:32 |
| nigelb | I'll work on it, you folks can review when you get the time :) | 14:32 |
| dholbach | super :) | 14:32 |
| nigelb | persia, i'm so sorry I wasn't around for the class last night | 14:44 |
| persia | Happens sometimes. No worries. Just reschedule it. | 14:46 |
| nigelb | yea, I have reschedule around some uncertain power situations. | 14:46 |
| nigelb | btw, did you get time to take a look at the script? | 14:46 |
| nigelb | I have so many things to change in that... | 14:47 |
| nigelb | ok, I'm still unsure. do we edit the script to make sure it recognizes patch-* tag (now that I can see the script code) or we dont do it? | 14:51 |
| persia | I thought the decision was that we didn't bother, and changed the process, since LP was cooler than previously thought. | 14:51 |
| nigelb | what irks me is since I can see the code, why not change it | 14:52 |
| persia | Extra work for no extra value? | 14:53 |
| nigelb | I need to get a few changes in anyway | 14:53 |
| nigelb | like that pacakge bryce said we can ignore | 14:54 |
| persia | Either way. | 14:54 |
| nigelb | so, the thing is... I want to know comments on this line | 15:06 |
| nigelb | As you complete each step of the process, you will mark your process by adding an appropriate 'patch-*' tag and removing the old one, however the 'patch' tag is NEVER removed from the bug. Make sure to ALWAYS include a comment when you change the tag just like you would if you changed the bug status, so it's clear to later reviewers what happened. | 15:06 |
| nigelb | does the last bit stay or go? | 15:06 |
| persia | I like it, but I tend to be over-verbose when concision would be more effective. | 15:08 |
| nigelb | um.. the last bit of first line :D | 15:09 |
| nigelb | motu-sru is kinda gone right? | 15:09 |
| nigelb | also is ubuntu-ma-sponsors? | 15:10 |
| nigelb | so, can I have the script ignore redudant teams? | 15:12 |
| persia | nigelb: Rather than ignoring outdated teams, we especally want to know about those so we can move stuff to the right teams (and then ignore them). | 15:59 |
| persia | Workflow there is probably: subscribe the right team, remove the patch tag. | 15:59 |
| nigelb | persia, ouch | 15:59 |
| persia | (because with the right team subscribed, the script would then ignore the bug) | 15:59 |
| * nigelb doesn't know enough of LP API to get this right :) | 15:59 | |
| persia | ouch? | 15:59 |
| nigelb | but we could probably have another script based on this one to subscribe new teams for the old bugs? | 16:00 |
| persia | I think dholbach has a script that does that: maybe we should extend that, and have the reviewers team script continue to ignore the old teams. | 16:01 |
| dholbach | http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/resubscribe maybe? | 16:02 |
| persia | That'd be it :) | 16:02 |
| nigelb | well, if that works, then I can remove the old teams? | 16:02 |
| nigelb | dholbach, or you can have that run with this script too :) | 16:03 |
| persia | I'd check with the team owners. I'd be pleased if ubuntu-universe-sponsors was automatically unsubscribed when ubuntu-sponsors was subscribed. | 16:03 |
| persia | I can't say for other teams. | 16:03 |
| nigelb | I thought dholbach 's script did that? | 16:03 |
| dholbach | if ubuntu-{universe,main}-sponsors are subscribed to an open bug, they'll be unsubscribed and ubuntu-sponsors will be subscribed instead | 16:05 |
| persia | Right, but the trick is to check with other potentially obsolete team owners before doing the same thing to those teams. | 16:06 |
| dholbach | oh sure, it's just for that use-case | 16:06 |
| nigelb | persia, ah. that way, so talk to other obsolete team owners and get their teams to work the same way, gotcha :) | 16:06 |
| persia | But I think it's sharable to e.g. motu-release or motu-sru, assuming someone does the porting and legwork to communicate with the team owners. | 16:06 |
| persia | nigelb: You probably want to get the other team owners to run the script themselves every once in the while. | 16:07 |
| persia | dholbach: IN case I haven't said so recently: thanks for including u-u-s in your script :) | 16:07 |
| nigelb | persia, I'll add that to my things to do :D | 16:08 |
| dholbach | persia: it was since the beginning - it just wasn't executed because of a bug :) | 16:09 |
| persia | dholbach: Still, I appreciate you running it so I needn't :) | 16:10 |
| nigelb | I've pushed my changes, so take a look | 16:11 |
| dholbach | no worries :-) | 16:11 |
| nigelb | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/ubuntu-qa-tools/patch-review-script/annotate/head%3A/launchpadlib-scripts/patch-subscriber.py | 16:12 |
| persia | nigelb: You might also want to add linux-ti-omap to the subscribe-JFo set. | 16:16 |
| nigelb | aha, getting done.. minute | 16:16 |
| * persia hopes we have a good plan for kernel reduction for one of the next cycles: too many trees is too confusing | 16:17 | |
| * nigelb refuses to go into kernel, even though tempting | 16:18 | |
| persia | No, leave that to the kernel folks. We just have *lots* of different kernel trees. Last UDS we managed to kill one (linux-lpia), but we got more. | 16:20 |
| nigelb | the temptation to fix broken stuff is highly tempting | 16:21 |
| nigelb | wonder how core-devs manage to control the impulse :D | 16:21 |
| nigelb | ok, so added and new revision | 16:21 |
| nigelb | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/ubuntu-qa-tools/patch-review-script/annotate/head%3A/launchpadlib-scripts/patch-subscriber.py | 16:21 |
| nigelb | dholbach, ok, I need some idea of what kind of examples you're looking for... | 16:27 |
| nigelb | like add a test scenario to each case? | 16:27 |
| dholbach | nigelb: like bug X with a patch that needed some work, like bug Y with a patch that needed to go to debian, was forwarded there, etc. | 16:31 |
| dholbach | if you've never done it it will be hard to figure out for you what you need to do | 16:31 |
| nigelb | dholbach, um, those statuses are sort of dynamic | 16:31 |
| nigelb | so by the time someone actually looks into it patch-needswork will be patch-forwarded-upstream or patch-accepted-upstream | 16:31 |
| dholbach | yes | 16:31 |
| dholbach | I thought that a bug which tells a story of "here's what happened" might be helpful in teaching that | 16:32 |
| nigelb | ah, I'll look for those | 16:32 |
| dholbach | I'll have a look over it tomorrow | 16:33 |
| nigelb | so, I'll add specific examples below the current ones | 16:33 |
| nigelb | i.e. the current rule-stlyle ;) | 16:33 |
| nigelb | dholbach, I'll nag persia to look at it today :D | 16:33 |
| dholbach | awesome | 16:33 |
| * dholbach has to head out and tend to a few other things | 16:33 | |
| dholbach | so have a great rest of your day | 16:33 |
| dholbach | and see you soon again! :) | 16:34 |
| nigelb | later dholbach :) | 16:34 |
| dholbach | rock on | 16:34 |
| nigelb | persia, how long more will you be up? | 16:36 |
| persia | longer than you. | 16:36 |
| nigelb | can talk to brian about my edits? I'm dead on sleep already. | 16:37 |
| nigelb | james_w, can you sign up for a few hours of review leading? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatchDay | 16:37 |
| james_w | not right now | 16:37 |
| nigelb | well 1 hour is fine too :) | 16:37 |
| james_w | I'll look closer to the time | 16:38 |
| nigelb | sure, thank you :) | 16:38 |
| persia | nigelb: Sure. | 16:38 |
| nigelb | persia, thank you :) | 16:38 |
| * nigelb is off. rest of wiki edits in the morning | 16:38 | |
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