| newz2000 | Anyone here ever make a facebook app before? | 14:54 |
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| thorwil | newz2000: are you considering to write a farmville contender? :) | 15:07 |
| knome | newz2000, how can you make a facebook app before you make one? | 15:07 |
| newz2000 | Someone suggested making a facebook app for the countdown | 15:07 |
| newz2000 | I'd support someone in the community if they wanted to do it | 15:08 |
| * thorwil hands knome a better parser | 15:08 | |
| * newz2000 doesn't define support yet | 15:08 | |
| knome | thorwil, :P why better parser | 15:08 |
| knome | i'm not even on facebook! | 15:08 |
| * thorwil -> coffee | 15:09 | |
| ofirk | newz2000: do you have a sec? | 15:42 |
| newz2000 | ofirk: yes, I will make one for you | 15:43 |
| * newz2000 has been ignoring ofirk too long | 15:43 | |
| ofirk | newz2000: thanks :) | 15:43 |
| ofirk | newz2000: can you give me an update about the download page? | 15:43 |
| newz2000 | No changes yet, and to make matters worse I'm fearful that something drastic may need to be done | 15:44 |
| newz2000 | As in, the ability to manage it through www.ubuntu.com (even using an iframe) may vanish | 15:44 |
| newz2000 | I was thinking about this last night as I laid in bed actually | 15:44 |
| ofirk | wow :) | 15:45 |
| ofirk | is there something I can help with? | 15:45 |
| ofirk | I really want it to go smooth | 15:45 |
| newz2000 | yeah, smooth is good | 15:45 |
| ofirk | so, what are your thoughts? | 15:46 |
| stas | newz2000: i wrote a facebook app some time ago | 15:46 |
| newz2000 | what you proposed, as in the html you suggested, looks fine. But I think we should have a fall-back plan | 15:46 |
| newz2000 | ofirk: something clever, ideally that doesn't use php | 15:47 |
| newz2000 | stas: and you loved it so much that you wanted to write another one? | 15:47 |
| ofirk | why we need php for? the mirror list? | 15:47 |
| newz2000 | yes, it gets pulled in the form of an RSS feed from launchpad | 15:47 |
| stas | actually i got the code i used under gpl, so yeah, I would love to make another one :) | 15:47 |
| ofirk | what about using js to do all the processing? | 15:48 |
| newz2000 | stas: will you be around for a bit? I'm wondering if we can talk through it after ofirk? | 15:48 |
| ofirk | we can pull the mirror list, just like a JSON request | 15:49 |
| newz2000 | requires xss to grab an rss/xml feed across domains | 15:49 |
| stas | newz2000: may i prv you to tell you my email, I think its the best way to stay in touch, though I'm lurking around often | 15:49 |
| newz2000 | stas: yep, sounds good | 15:50 |
| newz2000 | ofirk: I'm ok with that line of thought, but lets take a step back | 15:50 |
| newz2000 | what's the best experience we can provide w/ no code other than html/css? | 15:50 |
| ofirk | no mirrors | 15:50 |
| ofirk | we can link only to ubuntu's main server | 15:51 |
| newz2000 | Hmm... even something like this would be impossible: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#mirrors | 15:51 |
| ofirk | a list of mirrors is scary | 15:52 |
| ofirk | it should be simple | 15:52 |
| newz2000 | yeah, that too | 15:52 |
| * newz2000 has an idea, just a moment | 15:52 | |
| jpds | Let's put in the mirror redirect magic. | 15:52 |
| newz2000 | jpds: have you seen the code (or know how it works) for the new download page? | 15:53 |
| jpds | newz2000: No... | 15:53 |
| newz2000 | jpds: what were you referring to? | 15:53 |
| jpds | newz2000: The redirection for downloads at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download | 15:54 |
| newz2000 | ofirk is trying to do this for kubuntu.org | 15:55 |
| newz2000 | and they have no php access on that site | 15:55 |
| ofirk | mirror redirect requires some short of php | 15:55 |
| ofirk | newz2000: you said you had an idea | 15:56 |
| newz2000 | I do actually... I'm looking at the code for the new download page and it looks like it could be easily extended to work for kubuntu | 15:56 |
| ofirk | can you send it to me so we both can take a look of it? | 15:57 |
| newz2000 | no, but here's how I imagine it working | 15:57 |
| newz2000 | there will be a form that submits (using post) to a special URL on ubuntu.com | 15:57 |
| newz2000 | and it redirects to the iso image | 15:58 |
| newz2000 | so people don't even leave the page they're on when they start the download | 15:59 |
| ofirk | sounds fine | 15:59 |
| ofirk | can ubuntu.com also pick the closest mirror? | 16:00 |
| ofirk | so we can remove the mirror list from the download form... | 16:00 |
| newz2000 | yes, it does that magically. :-) | 16:00 |
| newz2000 | ofirk: in the kubuntu admin area do you see the list of modules that are enabled? | 16:01 |
| ofirk | i don't have access to the production site | 16:01 |
| newz2000 | ofirk: oh, who would be able to check? | 16:02 |
| ofirk | I will ask Riddell | 16:02 |
| newz2000 | ok. have him look to see if there's a module called "Ubuntu" | 16:02 |
| ofirk | I think he is here, I will try... | 16:02 |
| newz2000 | don't change anything yet, just check | 16:02 |
| newz2000 | no rush, I'm still thinking of plan "b" stuff | 16:03 |
| ofirk | Riddell says there is no such module called Ubuntu | 16:05 |
| newz2000 | bummer | 16:05 |
| ofirk | what is this module? | 16:06 |
| newz2000 | it's custom code for the ubuntu website | 16:06 |
| ofirk | I really don't understand how the kubuntu website is running | 16:07 |
| ofirk | if it is based on drupal, how it can't have php? | 16:07 |
| newz2000 | It's a hardened version of Drupal 6, basically | 16:07 |
| ofirk | each theme comes with a php file | 16:08 |
| newz2000 | the ability to add PHP code through the browser interface has been removed | 16:08 |
| ofirk | but if we include a php file with the theme, which does the mirror listing form launchpad, will that work? | 16:08 |
| newz2000 | yes | 16:10 |
| newz2000 | but the theme isn't really the right place to do this I think | 16:10 |
| newz2000 | because you don't want it to happen on each page view | 16:10 |
| ofirk | we can include it inside template.php and execute it only through the download page | 16:11 |
| ofirk | actually, it will be run everytime, but only do something when the download page is accessed | 16:11 |
| newz2000 | ok, lets consider that an act of desperation | 16:12 |
| ofirk | the proper way is to implement it through a module, but I guess that is too complicated | 16:13 |
| newz2000 | We'll see | 16:16 |
| ofirk | do you have something more on your mind? | 16:17 |
| newz2000 | I'm still hoping that Plan A will work, basically reusing ubuntu.com's solution | 16:17 |
| newz2000 | I'm going to focus my energy there | 16:18 |
| ofirk | Do you need me for Plan A? Alter the download page or something else? | 16:19 |
| newz2000 | It will take some re-thinking of the download page a bit | 16:19 |
| newz2000 | I've marked your message in my inbox, I will try to follow up with you by about this time tomorrow | 16:20 |
| ofirk | OK | 16:21 |
| ofirk | thanks! | 16:21 |
| cjohnston | howdy | 17:30 |
| newz2000 | stas: still around? | 17:58 |
| stas | newz2000: yep | 17:59 |
| newz2000 | Someone suggested making a facebook app /sidebar for the countdown | 18:00 |
| newz2000 | seems like a cool idea to me | 18:00 |
| newz2000 | I don't have time to do it though | 18:00 |
| newz2000 | Does that sound like something that you'd like to try to pull off? | 18:01 |
| stas | yes that doesn't sount like too complicated | 18:03 |
| stas | i think i can write it quick | 18:03 |
| newz2000 | what is needed to do it? | 18:03 |
| stas | hmm, some informations, It would be cool to have the banners location URI persistent and change the pics once a new release is coming | 18:04 |
| newz2000 | right now the banner's img tag is written w/ js | 18:04 |
| newz2000 | and the path to the js file is persistent | 18:04 |
| stas | thats not good, fb proxies the html you send to him and you might not get the same html ids after | 18:05 |
| stas | I would go plain php rotation | 18:05 |
| newz2000 | Currently we do a very simple document.write() | 18:05 |
| stas | i'll try with js | 18:06 |
| newz2000 | do any files need to be hosted? | 18:06 |
| stas | but my experience with fb and third-party js files was not that successful | 18:06 |
| stas | newz2000: nope, I will host it on ubuntu.ro until its reviewed | 18:06 |
| stas | if it's ok | 18:06 |
| stas | you can move it | 18:07 |
| newz2000 | will it be PHP or will it just be plain HTML? | 18:07 |
| stas | ill publish also the code on lp | 18:07 |
| stas | php, i need that to connect to fb api | 18:07 |
| newz2000 | ok, I thought so. That will be an interesting problem to solve. | 18:08 |
| stas | although, i didnt try with plain html, maybe it will work | 18:08 |
| stas | ill play with both approaches | 18:08 |
| newz2000 | ok, static content == easy to deploy for us | 18:08 |
| stas | +1 for that too | 18:08 |
| newz2000 | but if it's not possible, so be it | 18:08 |
| stas | if the js take won't work, php will be required | 18:09 |
| stas | for image rotation | 18:09 |
| newz2000 | yeah | 18:09 |
| stas | oky give some time, maybe until tomorrow i'll get it up | 18:10 |
| stas | the idea is to have a landing page | 18:10 |
| stas | where user will be able to push a button that will add a widget to his profile | 18:10 |
| newz2000 | yeah | 18:10 |
| stas | the widget will contain the countdown banner image thats all | 18:11 |
| stas | good :) | 18:11 |
| newz2000 | Thanks for explorign this... | 18:11 |
| newz2000 | it'll be interesting to see if we can pull it together | 18:11 |
| stas | btw, newz2000 I wont get into the design part, so you'll have to take care of it :) | 18:11 |
| newz2000 | no prob | 18:12 |
| stas | great, lets see if we make it together | 18:12 |
| ofirk | -*- what | 20:58 |
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