[00:28] <ToStItOs> I cannot load windows with grub
[00:31] <ToStItOs> I tried to install two drives and now grub will not load windows
[00:31] <ToStItOs> I am in a bind I need to restore the boot loader to normal is there a way to do this
[00:32] <ToStItOs> I tried to disconnect the Xubuntu drive
[00:32] <ToStItOs> but that won't
[00:33] <ToStItOs> work
[00:33] <ToStItOs> if there is anyone who can help me with this I really would appreciate this
[00:56] <Sachse_Siechtum> hello anybody home?
[01:31] <kathleenlepirate> does xubuntu 9.10 use grub2?
[01:37] <Sachse_Siechtum> kathleenlepirate, yes
[01:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> kathleenlepirate, well it uses grub1 by default but you can install grub 2in smp
[01:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> spm
[01:42] <kathleenlepirate> so then I would have grub1 if i never opted in
[01:45] <Sachse_Siechtum> opted in?
[01:46] <kathleenlepirate> like, if i just did a normal install, it would be grub1 or 2?
[01:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> well you'd have some version of grub....just take a look in  synaptic
[01:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> you'd have grub 1.97 beta4
[01:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> it shows when your computer is booting and you are in the grub boot menu
[01:48] <kathleenlepirate> well, i'm on a live cd
[01:48] <kathleenlepirate> something's wrong with it
[01:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> something's wrong with the live cd?
[01:49] <kathleenlepirate> no, grub
[01:50] <kathleenlepirate> and my partitions apparently
[01:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> xubuntu won't boot?
[01:51] <kathleenlepirate> right
[01:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> what message comes up?
[01:53] <kathleenlepirate> i think it was a read error. i have it written down, but i don't have it with me, i'm at work. but that doesn't show up anymore anyway. now when i start the computer without the live cd, nothing happens after the BIOS screen. just a bliniing underscore
[01:54] <kathleenlepirate> blinking*
[01:54] <Sachse_Siechtum> does the bios recognizes the hard disk=
[01:54] <Sachse_Siechtum> ?
[01:54] <kathleenlepirate> yes
[01:55] <kathleenlepirate> i mean, it's listed there
[01:55] <kathleenlepirate> i have to leave work now, i'll be back in like 10 minutes with what the error was
[01:55] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm hard to say whats wrong,,,
[01:55] <Balsaq> is bios set to boot from the correct place?
[01:56] <kathleenlepirate> i believe so. that would be a stupid mistake haha
[01:57] <kathleenlepirate> i'll check....like i said, i'll be back in like 10 minutes.
[01:57] <Balsaq> once i was in a similar situation...when the cursor was blinking as you say...i hit f1 or f2 and the desktop appeared.
[01:58] <kathleenlepirate> haha wow
[01:59] <Balsaq> are you ultimately trying to install it tothe HD...or run from live CD?
[01:59] <kathleenlepirate> it is installed to the hd
[01:59] <kathleenlepirate> im trying to boot from that
[02:00] <Balsaq> is windows involved?
[02:02] <kathleenlepirate> yep
[02:02] <kathleenlepirate> source of the problem
[02:03] <kathleenlepirate> right well, i'll reboot and check the bios first
[02:03] <Balsaq> did you try find/boot/grub/stage1
[02:06] <Balsaq> sounds like grub is looking at the wrong partition during boot
[02:07] <Balsaq> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[02:09] <Balsaq> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[02:09] <Balsaq> actually the 2nd link seems to be the correct one
[02:18] <kathleenlepirate> umm
[02:19] <kathleenlepirate> well it booted into xubuntu just fine, out of nowhere
[02:19] <kathleenlepirate> but didn't give me a choice
[02:20] <Sachse_Siechtum> bad bad Xubuntu *g*
[02:21] <Sachse_Siechtum> ;-)
[02:22] <kathleenlepirate> and i think in self-preservation, removed gparted from applications?
[02:22] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm dont guess so...
[02:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> just restart the computer... to test if it still does boot...
[02:24] <kathleenlepirate> it does, directly into xubuntu
[02:32] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok
[02:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> so, problem solved?
[02:34] <kathleenlepirate> problem transfigured. i still want the option to boot into windows occasionally
[02:36] <kathleenlepirate> also, i'm pretty sure it's not seeing a partition it should
[02:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmmm..is the missing partition a ntfs one?
[02:36] <kathleenlepirate> yes
[02:38] <Sachse_Siechtum> look if you got the package for supporting ntfs installed...
[02:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> or maybe the partition is not mounted
[02:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> but it should be showing in "harddisk drives management"
[02:48] <kathleenlepirate> how is it that it can format a partition to a format it can't read
[03:04] <Sachse_Siechtum> well...I think its the only option it gives to you...
[03:05] <kathleenlepirate> what option?
[03:05] <Sachse_Siechtum> same in windows....plugin a usb stick...and if the filesystem in damaged or not readable...it says "....cant be read...do you want to format it?"
[03:05] <Sachse_Siechtum> well  to format that partition
[03:06] <Sachse_Siechtum> but I dont know so much about part. management in Xubuntu
[03:06] <kathleenlepirate> i don't either, which is my problem
[03:09] <Sachse_Siechtum> maybe go to #ubuntu and ask there
[03:49] <kathleenlepirate> ugh, why would gparted tell me "failed to mount '59G Volume'. The enclosing drive for the volume is locked." when i don't have a 5gb partition?
[03:50] <kathleenlepirate> ...*59gb
[20:27] <Sachse_Siechtum> I finally saved my sound problem with WINE! *yay*
[20:27] <Sachse_Siechtum> solved
[20:28] <charlie-tca> Yay!
[20:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> solution was: Winepulse!
[20:31] <charlie-tca> really?
[20:31] <Sachse_Siechtum> yes
[20:31] <Sachse_Siechtum> I just had alsa/esound/jack/..../ to choose from...no pulse in the list
[20:32] <Sachse_Siechtum> after changing pulse audio package to 1.2 ....
[20:32] <Sachse_Siechtum> bingo...pulse audio in the list..
[20:32] <Sachse_Siechtum> half-life finally has sound now :-)
[20:32] <Sachse_Siechtum> the alternative would have been: removing pulse packages...but that would have meant: no 5.1. sound...
[20:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> and I need my 5.1 sound *g*
[20:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> now I'm curious if I gonna have real 5.1 surround sound with Max payne 2
[20:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> *gonna install it later* :-)
[20:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> to bad I wasted several hours today, to get company of heroes running....
[20:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> which ended in a c++ error message
[20:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> :-(
[20:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> I hope I just get all my steam games running...
[20:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> so another step away from XP *g*
[20:38] <charlie-tca> :-)
[20:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> When I have my new computer, I hopefully have enough performance to leave Win XP xompletely :-)
[20:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> charlie-tca, oh yeah how are you today? *laugh*
[20:41] <charlie-tca> doing just fine
[20:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> good :-)
[20:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> just had 2 cheeseburgers and a cup of cappu :)
[20:41] <charlie-tca> Hello, Sachse_Siechtum
[20:41] <charlie-tca> Start over?
[20:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> charlie-tca, hello :-)
[20:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> what do you mean?
[20:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> or...pardon me?
[20:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> I really need a new computer...
[20:44] <charlie-tca> heh
[20:44] <Sachse_Siechtum> most of my components are from....2005...
[20:45] <Sachse_Siechtum> exceot the gfx card
[20:45] <Sachse_Siechtum> -o+p
[20:48] <charlie-tca> preoccupied here. Running 8.04 to Lucid upgrade again
[20:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> why 8.04 and not 9.04?
[20:50] <Sysi> lts
[20:50] <Sachse_Siechtum> Ic
[20:50] <Sachse_Siechtum> lucid is the next lts, right?
[20:51] <Arpad2> hello
[20:51] <Sysi> Sachse_Siechtum: yes
[20:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> Arpad2, hello
[20:52] <Sachse_Siechtum> Sysi, copy
[21:01] <charlie-tca> Have to be able to upgrade from both 8.04 and 9.10 to lucid
[21:03] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok
[21:25] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah I found a tool to change netspeed :-)
[21:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> damn just for ethernet cards
[21:53] <charlie-tca> What are you using?
[22:27] <Sachse_Siechtum> I was trying ethtool
[22:27] <Sachse_Siechtum> but it just recognizes the ethernet card
[22:30] <charlie-tca> I never learn how to use that thing
[22:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> well I dont need "this" , I need one for wlan0 ...damn! *g*
[22:36] <charlie-tca> oooops...
[22:37] <Sachse_Siechtum> charlie-tca, not your fault *g*
[22:50] <Sachse_Siechtum> damn I was so busy, I forgot to drink the rest of my cappu *laugh*
[23:11] <charlie-tca> Well, enough fun for today
[23:12] <charlie-tca> See you later