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| mhall119 | All 3 Qimo packages have been accepted into 10.04!! | 16:05 |
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| mhall119 | highvoltage: qimo-* packages made it through FFe! | 19:39 |
| pleia2 | FFe? | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | congrats mhall119 :) | 19:40 |
| mhall119 | FFe=Feature Freeze Exception | 19:40 |
| mhall119 | it means, despite being late, qimo-* packages will be in Universe for Luci | 19:40 |
| mhall119 | Lucid | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | aj. rogjt | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | gah | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | ah, right | 19:41 |
| mhall119 | I'll be so happy to tell Ubuntu users "just apt-get install qimo-session" | 19:42 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: I saw the e-mails about the tarball problems, did you or jamie fix it? | 19:43 |
| mhall119 | tarball problems? | 19:44 |
| mhall119 | I haven't seen those emails yet, let me check | 19:44 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: I'm not sure whether it was my fault yet, I'll check in about 30 minutes after some people here leave | 19:44 |
| mhall119 | ok, I'll check my end | 19:45 |
| mhall119 | thanks for the heads up | 19:45 |
| mhall119 | highvoltage: unless I screwed up how I was handling the .orig.tar.gz file, I'm not sure what's going on | 19:49 |
| mhall119 | when I debuild -us -uc, the .deb I get doesn't have an archive within an archive | 19:49 |
| alkisg | Anyone with some experience in python packaging (setup.py, dist-utils etc) that cares to help in properly packaging sch-scripts? :) | 19:50 |
| * mhall119 needs to learn pythong packaging | 19:51 | |
| mhall119 | highvoltage: I did the dpkg-source -x 14:42 < mhall119> thanks for the heads up | 19:57 |
| mhall119 | gah, dpkg-source -x qimo-session_2.0.0-ubuntu1.dsc | 19:57 |
| mhall119 | and it didn't find the extra archive | 19:57 |
| mhall119 | did you have to re-package it to upload it? | 19:57 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: nope, bit it is possible that something might have gone wrong on my side, I'll check and let you know within the hour or so | 20:01 |
| mhall119 | thanks | 20:03 |
| mhall119 | he said it won't effect the FFe grant at least | 20:03 |
| nubae | mhall119: I'm interested in python packaging, I have a python program I'd like to package..... did u write down your instructions somewhere? | 20:31 |
| mhall119 | nubae: I said I need to learn it | 20:31 |
| mhall119 | I have no idea how to properly package python apps | 20:31 |
| nubae | :-) ok... same boat then, however, I have been packagin pythong apps for opensuse for quite a while | 20:33 |
| nubae | but they are rpms | 20:33 |
| nubae | and I use buildservice for that | 20:33 |
| nubae | in theory, u can also cretedebs that way, but perhaps doing it the ubuntu prooopeer way would be better | 20:34 |
| mhall119 | yeah, there's a difference between creating debs, and creating debs the ubuntu way | 20:35 |
| mhall119 | if you want to get them into the repos, it's gotta be the ubuntu way | 20:35 |
| nubae | yah... :-( | 21:12 |
| nubae | I've been putting that off for far too long... I need to get into it though since I'm supposed to be at least moving towards a edubuntu membership position... | 21:13 |
| mhall119 | heh, me too | 21:16 |
| Lns | Has anyone here looked into how skolelinux does user administration with lwat? | 21:53 |
| Lns | It seems to be something that edubuntu could really use..it's user/group/system administration based on an existing LDAP schema for schools specifically | 21:54 |
| alkisg | We should at least copy their ldap schema and make a package out of it, for easy ldap installation... | 21:56 |
| Lns | alkisg: check this out | 21:58 |
| Lns | http://maintainer.skolelinux.org/debian-edu-doc/en/debian-edu-lenny-manual.html#AEN792 | 21:58 |
| Lns | it looks pretty mature | 21:58 |
| Lns | i'm talking to the skolelinux ppl right now and they say upstream lwat project is dying..maybe with a joint effort with us and skolelinux it could help maintain it | 21:59 |
| Lns | hehe, speak of the devil.. hi and1bm ;) | 21:59 |
| * alkisg doesn't really like web-based administration tools... | 21:59 | |
| alkisg | I'd prefer if users-admin or some other tool was modified to support ldap, like kuser does | 21:59 |
| Lns | but this is much more..this does dns/dhcp and a lot of other things, and already has a schema built out | 22:00 |
| Lns | imho there's nothing wrong with web based admin tools as long as you secure them | 22:00 |
| alkisg | Nah I'm not worried about security, I don't like their interface | 22:01 |
| alkisg | Sure, having a default ldap schema in ubuntu (could be the same as skolelinux) would be great | 22:01 |
| Lns | well i'm just saying, there's a tool that already seems to do what edubuntu lacks for a school environment...it would be worth looking into collaborating on | 22:01 |
| alkisg | But it isn't actively maintained anymore? | 22:02 |
| alkisg | Why is that? | 22:02 |
| Lns | not sure..looking at the site right now | 22:04 |
| Lns | it looks like it was a project by a company at bzz.no | 22:04 |
| alkisg | Btw, for schools using thin & fat clients (not standalone PCs) ldap isn't really important... ldm ssh authentication works fine, and users-admin for creating/editing users accounts... | 22:07 |
| Lns | alkisg: i would really think that depends on the size of the infrastructure | 22:10 |
| Lns | and yikes...users-admin? Did they ever even fix the sorting by name bug? | 22:11 |
| alkisg | Sure, but if a school has some thousands of users, then it surely has a capable sysadmin that can install ldap manually... :) | 22:11 |
| Lns | alkisg: that's not a good assumption to make! | 22:11 |
| alkisg | Sure, I too want an easier ldap installation method - but I'd like it to be ubuntu-wide, not edubuntu-specific... so that it gets more support | 22:12 |
| Lns | alkisg: well of course, that's why I'm suggesting to both the edubuntu-devs and skolelinux teams that a possible collaboration might help everyone :) | 22:14 |
| alkisg | http://maintainer.skolelinux.org/debian-edu-doc/en/debian-edu-lenny-manual.html#AEN159 ==> "Dynamic desktop icons and menu options that adjust based on user group." - cool... | 22:15 |
| Lns | Yeah, there are tons of similarities between us and them | 22:17 |
| Lns | cheers all :) | 22:55 |
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