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[16:05] <mhall119> All 3 Qimo packages have been accepted into 10.04!!
[19:39] <mhall119> highvoltage: qimo-* packages made it through FFe!
[19:40] <pleia2> FFe?
[19:40] <pleia2> congrats mhall119 :)
[19:40] <mhall119> FFe=Feature Freeze Exception
[19:40] <mhall119> it means, despite being late, qimo-* packages will be in Universe for Luci
[19:41] <mhall119> Lucid
[19:41] <pleia2> aj. rogjt
[19:41] <pleia2> gah
[19:41] <pleia2> ah, right
[19:42] <mhall119> I'll be so happy to tell Ubuntu users "just apt-get install qimo-session"
[19:43] <highvoltage> mhall119: I saw the e-mails about the tarball problems, did you or jamie fix it?
[19:44] <mhall119> tarball problems?
[19:44] <mhall119> I haven't seen those emails yet, let me check
[19:44] <highvoltage> mhall119: I'm not sure whether it was my fault yet, I'll check in about 30 minutes after some people here leave
[19:45] <mhall119> ok, I'll check my end
[19:45] <mhall119> thanks for the heads up
[19:49] <mhall119> highvoltage: unless I screwed up how I was handling the .orig.tar.gz file, I'm not sure what's going on
[19:49] <mhall119> when I debuild -us -uc, the .deb I get doesn't have an archive within an archive
[19:50] <alkisg> Anyone with some experience in python packaging (setup.py, dist-utils etc) that cares to help in properly packaging sch-scripts? :)
[19:51]  * mhall119 needs to learn pythong packaging
[19:57] <mhall119> highvoltage: I did the dpkg-source -x 14:42 < mhall119> thanks for the heads up
[19:57] <mhall119> gah, dpkg-source -x qimo-session_2.0.0-ubuntu1.dsc
[19:57] <mhall119> and it didn't find the extra archive
[19:57] <mhall119> did you have to re-package it to upload it?
[20:01] <highvoltage> mhall119: nope, bit it is possible that something might have gone wrong on my side, I'll check and let you know within the hour or so
[20:03] <mhall119> thanks
[20:03] <mhall119> he said it won't effect the FFe grant at least
[20:31] <nubae> mhall119: I'm interested in python packaging, I have a python program I'd like to package..... did u write down your instructions somewhere?
[20:31] <mhall119> nubae: I said I need to learn it
[20:31] <mhall119> I have no idea how to properly package python apps
[20:33] <nubae> :-) ok... same boat then, however, I have been packagin pythong apps for opensuse for quite a while
[20:33] <nubae> but they are rpms
[20:33] <nubae> and I use buildservice for that
[20:34] <nubae> in theory, u can also cretedebs that way, but perhaps doing it the ubuntu prooopeer way would be better
[20:35] <mhall119> yeah, there's a difference between creating debs, and creating debs the ubuntu way
[20:35] <mhall119> if you want to get them into the repos, it's gotta be the ubuntu way
[21:12] <nubae> yah... :-(
[21:13] <nubae> I've been putting that off for far too long... I need to get into it though since I'm supposed to be at least moving towards a edubuntu membership position...
[21:16] <mhall119> heh, me too
[21:53] <Lns> Has anyone here looked into how skolelinux does user administration with lwat?
[21:54] <Lns> It seems to be something that edubuntu could really use..it's user/group/system administration based on an existing LDAP schema for schools specifically
[21:56] <alkisg> We should at least copy their ldap schema and make a package out of it, for easy ldap installation...
[21:58] <Lns> alkisg: check this out
[21:58] <Lns> http://maintainer.skolelinux.org/debian-edu-doc/en/debian-edu-lenny-manual.html#AEN792
[21:58] <Lns> it looks pretty mature
[21:59] <Lns> i'm talking to the skolelinux ppl right now and they say upstream lwat project is dying..maybe with a joint effort with us and skolelinux it could help maintain it
[21:59] <Lns> hehe, speak of the devil.. hi and1bm ;)
[21:59]  * alkisg doesn't really like web-based administration tools...
[21:59] <alkisg> I'd prefer if users-admin or some other tool was modified to support ldap, like kuser does
[22:00] <Lns> but this is much more..this does dns/dhcp and a lot of other things, and already has a schema built out
[22:00] <Lns> imho there's nothing wrong with web based admin tools as long as you secure them
[22:01] <alkisg> Nah I'm not worried about security, I don't like their interface
[22:01] <alkisg> Sure, having a default ldap schema in ubuntu (could be the same as skolelinux) would be great
[22:01] <Lns> well i'm just saying, there's a tool that already seems to do what edubuntu lacks for a school environment...it would be worth looking into collaborating on
[22:02] <alkisg> But it isn't actively maintained anymore?
[22:02] <alkisg> Why is that?
[22:04] <Lns> not sure..looking at the site right now
[22:04] <Lns> it looks like it was a project by a company at bzz.no
[22:07] <alkisg> Btw, for schools using thin & fat clients (not standalone PCs) ldap isn't really important... ldm ssh authentication works fine, and users-admin for creating/editing users accounts...
[22:10] <Lns> alkisg: i would really think that depends on the size of the infrastructure
[22:11] <Lns> and yikes...users-admin? Did they ever even fix the sorting by name bug?
[22:11] <alkisg> Sure, but if a school has some thousands of users, then it surely has a capable sysadmin that can install ldap manually... :)
[22:11] <Lns> alkisg: that's not a good assumption to make!
[22:12] <alkisg> Sure, I too want an easier ldap installation method - but I'd like it to be ubuntu-wide, not edubuntu-specific... so that it gets more support
[22:14] <Lns> alkisg: well of course, that's why I'm suggesting to both the edubuntu-devs and skolelinux teams that a possible collaboration might help everyone :)
[22:15] <alkisg> http://maintainer.skolelinux.org/debian-edu-doc/en/debian-edu-lenny-manual.html#AEN159 ==> "Dynamic desktop icons and menu options that adjust based on user group." - cool...
[22:17] <Lns> Yeah, there are tons of similarities between us and them
[22:55] <Lns> cheers all :)