| Some_Person | I just uploaded a bunch of crap to a PPA that depends on one another (but not necessarily the versions in the PPA). Will it build those packages against one another or against the official packages? | 00:49 |
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| micahg | Some_Person: if you set the PPA as a dependency and the versions in the PPA are higher it will use the PPA | 00:53 |
| Some_Person | I have to set the PPA as a dependency? | 00:54 |
| lifeless | Some_Person: builds will build in the ppa | 01:01 |
| lifeless | using the versions in the ppa of the things they depend on | 01:01 |
| lifeless | if the dep is older in the ppa than in the official distro, the official distro version is used. | 01:01 |
| Some_Person | But it isn't doing that | 01:02 |
| Some_Person | It's using the official versions, which are failing because of dependency problems | 01:02 |
| Some_Person | example: libticalcs2-dev: Depends: libticalcs2-7 (= 1.1.3-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed | 01:03 |
| wgrant | Some_Person: Are the others built and published yet? | 01:03 |
| Some_Person | they can't be, they depend on each other | 01:03 |
| lifeless | Some_Person: so, you have a transition to deal with | 01:03 |
| wgrant | So you have circular dependencies? | 01:03 |
| Some_Person | wgrant: I believe so | 01:04 |
| Some_Person | https://launchpad.net/~stownsend42/+archive/tilp2/+packages | 01:04 |
| wgrant | Well, they can't build-depend on another if they cannot build. | 01:04 |
| lifeless | Some_Person: if you have two packages A and B that mutually depend on each other, and are version locked, you are screwed. | 01:04 |
| wgrant | This is nothing specific to PPAs -- it's by definition impossible. | 01:04 |
| lifeless | Some_Person: you need to patch one of them to be able to build with an older other. Also find the authors of this software and slap some sense into them. | 01:04 |
| wgrant | Unless you are a compiler, you have no excuse. | 01:05 |
| lifeless | if you have a cycle in your dependencies, its *very very* important, as an upstream, to release on thing at a time, able to build on the existing releases you have. | 01:05 |
| wgrant | And even if you are a compiler, it's still inadvisable. | 01:05 |
| lifeless | s/on/one/ | 01:05 |
| persia | compilers that don't have a handy --bootstrap build option just cause pain. | 01:06 |
| lifeless | indeed | 01:07 |
| Some_Person | Actually, I think you're right | 01:07 |
| Some_Person | It built them in the wrong order | 01:07 |
| lifeless | if thats the case, just upload the first one that should build | 01:07 |
| lifeless | and wait. | 01:07 |
| lifeless | then when its build upload the other. | 01:07 |
| persia | Isn't there a handy-dandy "build this one now" button on PPAs for failed builds? | 01:08 |
| Some_Person | I uploaded everything at the same time | 01:08 |
| lifeless | persia: there is a rebuild button yes. | 01:08 |
| wgrant | Or upload both, and if the build-dependencies are set properly then one will depwait. | 01:08 |
| Some_Person | I chose to build it again, but now it has a build score of ZERO | 01:08 |
| wgrant | Normally the depwait would be retried as soon as the dependencies were fulfilled. | 01:08 |
| lifeless | 10:03 < Some_Person> example: libticalcs2-dev: Depends: libticalcs2-7 (= 1.1.3-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed | 01:08 |
| wgrant | But that's been broken for a few days. | 01:08 |
| lifeless | was the error | 01:08 |
| wgrant | Some_Person: Yes, that's what happens to retries. | 01:08 |
| lifeless | libticalcs2-dev is built | 01:09 |
| lifeless | the library on that arch isn't built though | 01:09 |
| lifeless | -dev is built and installed I mean. | 01:09 |
| wgrant | .... | 01:09 |
| wgrant | .......... | 01:09 |
| lifeless | its possible the depwait code isn't picking up that transitive dev properly | 01:09 |
| wgrant | ................ | 01:09 |
| * wgrant looks at the PPA build queue. | 01:09 | |
| persia | For lucid, wasn't kamalm doing a transition to ti* and dropping half the packages? | 01:09 |
| wgrant | lifeless: That sort of situation requires debcheck. | 01:09 |
| lifeless | wgrant: it does? why | 01:10 |
| lifeless | its totally normal | 01:10 |
| wgrant | lifeless: It's not a matter of a missing direct build-dep. | 01:10 |
| wgrant | apt doesn't even tell us what is missing. | 01:11 |
| Some_Person | The packages in lucid are totally broken. tilp2 isn't even installable | 01:11 |
| lifeless | hang on, what is debcheck | 01:11 |
| lifeless | wgrant: right, but this will happen *every time* (assuming we publish -all builds immediately) | 01:11 |
| wgrant | lifeless: It looks at a package's (build-)deps, and verifies that they are satisfiable (taking into account Conflicts and Depends of all involved packages). | 01:11 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Yes. | 01:12 |
| lifeless | wgrant: what package? | 01:12 |
| wgrant | lifeless: What package is what? | 01:12 |
| Some_Person | So with a build score of 0, I'm guessing it's going to take a frickin' long time to build it | 01:12 |
| lifeless | debcheck in | 01:12 |
| persia | lifeless: There's a debcheck instance running on qa.ubuntuwire.com if you want to look. | 01:12 |
| wgrant | lifeless: It's not. http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/debcheck/ | 01:12 |
| persia | .org! Excellent. | 01:13 |
| wgrant | Some_Person: Unlikely. | 01:13 |
| * persia missed that announcement | 01:13 | |
| wgrant | It's been that way for a while. | 01:13 |
| Some_Person | wgrant: Why unlikely? | 01:13 |
| lifeless | wgrant: doesn't do conflicts AFAICT | 01:13 |
| lifeless | conflictchecker does | 01:13 |
| wgrant | Some_Person: Because the PPA build queue is not large, once you exclude the rebuilds which have a score of -10. | 01:14 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Doesn't that do file conflicts? | 01:14 |
| lifeless | wgrant: more than, yes. | 01:14 |
| lifeless | it checks that things the package metadata claim are installable together are. | 01:14 |
| wgrant | Right. | 01:15 |
| wgrant | debcheck relies on declared relationships. | 01:15 |
| lifeless | right | 01:15 |
| lifeless | anyhow | 01:15 |
| lifeless | you don't need debcheck to find out trivial cases like this | 01:15 |
| lifeless | its a small graph problem that python-apt can answer very reliably | 01:15 |
| wgrant | Well, OK. You need something way more complex than our current depwait mechanism. And Debian now uses debcheck for that. | 01:16 |
| wgrant | (the current one doesn't even handle virtual packages!) | 01:16 |
| lifeless | ok, so you *can* use debcheck. | 01:18 |
| lifeless | just saying it looks like overkill; we'd need one per ppa! | 01:18 |
| wgrant | debcheck is a more complete solution. | 01:18 |
| wgrant | Right. | 01:18 |
| lifeless | wgrant: like a tank is a more complete moped ? | 01:18 |
| wgrant | lifeless: How easily can python-apt operate like this on arbitrary non-system sources.list entries? | 01:19 |
| lifeless | all we really need is the dep install in the build process to signal depwait as a failure mode | 01:19 |
| lifeless | wgrant: fairly easily, though I'd have to look up the voodoo needed | 01:19 |
| Some_Person | Has one of my builds stalled or something? It's been going for 21 minutes and still shows the same exact stuff in the log | 02:44 |
| Some_Person | The i386 build of the same package took just over 5 minutes | 02:45 |
| wgrant | Some_Person: There's been a problem for a few days now where builds will appear to stall for a little over 20 minutes. | 02:46 |
| wgrant | If it doesn't resolve itself in the next 10 minutes, then you can start to worry. | 02:46 |
| Some_Person | The builder is lemon | 02:46 |
| Some_Person | ok, it finally finished | 02:50 |
| Some_Person | aww crap, one of them published too late and now i have to rebuild one of them | 02:56 |
| BiosElement | Hmm, Any idea why launchpad shows the correction revision info but the wrong loggerhead link? Technical revision number is around 420, but the branch revision is 3. >.> https://code.launchpad.net/~biosinteractive/biosingine/main | 04:32 |
| thumper | BiosElement: hi | 04:37 |
| BiosElement | Ahh, hey thumper ^_^ | 04:38 |
| thumper | all I can say is something is f@$%d up | 04:38 |
| mwhudson | BiosElement: it's a bzr bug | 04:38 |
| thumper | mwhudson: which one? | 04:38 |
| mwhudson | the branch is a bit damaged (though not in too bad a way, fortunately) | 04:38 |
| thumper | mwhudson: do we have a bug for this? | 04:39 |
| BiosElement | Ahh, I was kinda guessing that. >.> Any suggestions for a workaround? I haven't used this branch much so dumping it wouldn't be a big deal. | 04:39 |
| mwhudson | BiosElement: do "bzr log -l 1" and "bzr log -n0 -l 1" show different things in your local copy? | 04:42 |
| BiosElement | One sec, I'll check... | 04:43 |
| BiosElement | Nope, they're the same. Both show my latest commit. | 04:43 |
| mwhudson | BiosElement: are the revision numbers the same? | 04:44 |
| BiosElement | Yeah, same thing launchpad reads, Revno: 3 | 04:45 |
| mwhudson | ok, try running 'bzr reconcile' | 04:45 |
| BiosElement | mwhudson: Running now. | 04:46 |
| BiosElement | mwhudson: I'm guessing this fixed it. "Fixing last revision info 3 => 422". I'll push it to launchpad and see if it does the trick. | 04:48 |
| mwhudson | BiosElement: you'll probably need to delete the branch on launchpad an re-push | 04:49 |
| mwhudson | i don't think the metadata fix is propagated by push | 04:49 |
| BiosElement | Aight, easy enough to do. Thanks for you'll help. ^_^ I'll do that and let you know how it goes. | 04:50 |
| mwhudson | cool | 04:51 |
| spiv | mwhudson: I wonder if https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/556132 is another case of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/537116 ? | 05:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 556132 in bzr "bzr: ERROR: paramiko.SSHException:" [Medium,Confirmed] | 05:14 |
| BiosElement | mwhudson: That did the trick, thanks. | 05:15 |
| mwhudson | spiv: if non-idle connections are getting cut off by the timeoutprotocol that's a bug in twisted you're just as capable of fixing as me :-p | 05:16 |
| mwhudson | SSHException: Key-exchange timed out waiting for key negotiation is an odd error message to be sure | 05:17 |
| mwhudson | does ssh re-key the connection every so often? | 05:17 |
| spiv | mwhudson: well, partly I was just nagging because 537116 seemed to have stalled :P | 05:18 |
| spiv | mwhudson: besides, while I may have wrote TimeoutProtocol, therve touched it last :P | 05:19 |
| mwhudson | hmm, i wouldn't be exactly surprised it conch had bugs in its rekeying implementation | 05:19 |
| mwhudson | or paramiko for that matter | 05:20 |
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| NCommander | Is there any known issues with Soyuz? Everytime I try to rescore a build, LP explodes | 11:54 |
| * noodles775 tries | 11:55 | |
| noodles775 | NCommander: works for me... are you getting an OOPS id? | 11:57 |
| noodles775 | Actually, worked for me on edge... I assume it works also on non-edge. Trying now. | 11:57 |
| NCommander | noodles775: no, just the "Cannot communicate with LP" Can you try rescoring https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktop-webmail/001-0ubuntu1 | 11:58 |
| NCommander | noodles775: It didn't work with either for me | 11:58 |
| wgrant | That sounds like the similar Builder:+edit issue -- completely inexplicable. | 12:00 |
| NCommander | wgrant: so noodles775's can do it since he's ~admin, but since I'm just ~launchpad-buildd-admin, no go? | 12:01 |
| wgrant | NCommander: noodles775 is no ~admin. | 12:01 |
| NCommander | ? | 12:01 |
| wgrant | And the Builder:+edit timeout happens for admins too. | 12:01 |
| wgrant | As long as you can access the page, it can time out. | 12:01 |
| noodles775 | It's timing out for me on those builds too. | 12:01 |
| NCommander | wgrant: oh, I thought he rescored the package. | 12:02 |
| NCommander | noodles775: ugh.......... | 12:02 |
| NCommander | noodles775: I tried using the web UI since ubuntu-build didn't see the package | 12:02 |
| wgrant | It's a 502? | 12:02 |
| noodles775 | I rescored some other builds of my own without a problem. | 12:02 |
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| wgrant | It could be the locking issue that is plaguing buildd-manager again. | 12:02 |
| noodles775 | Yep "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server", it's disappointing that there's no oops :/ | 12:03 |
| noodles775 | NCommander: have you tried via the api? | 12:03 |
| noodles775 | (it may give the same error, but just wondering). | 12:03 |
| NCommander | noodles775: the API doesn't even see the source package | 12:03 |
| NCommander | noodles775: (which isn't that unusual, sometimes there appears to be a lag from when a package is NEW and the API can see it) | 12:04 |
| wgrant | NCommander: How are you trying to see it? | 12:04 |
| wgrant | It should be there immediately. | 12:04 |
| NCommander | wgrant: ubuntu-build | 12:05 |
| noodles775 | NCommander: I managed to rescore the second one (very quick response). I'll try the others. | 12:05 |
| NCommander | which uses launchpadlib last time I checked | 12:05 |
| noodles775 | (armel) | 12:05 |
| NCommander | noodles775: I managed to get it to rescore, but if you refresh, the build score won't change | 12:05 |
| noodles775 | NCommander: it is showing as 500000 | 12:06 |
| NCommander | noodles775: looks like you had more luck than I did | 12:06 |
| noodles775 | (Start in 1 minute). | 12:06 |
| noodles775 | NCommander, wgrant : weird, seems to have been a temporary issue, I could rescore them all without problem now. | 12:07 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Did queue-builder just finish? | 12:07 |
| NCommander | noodles775: weird indeed. Thanks | 12:07 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: which would fit your locking... | 12:07 |
| noodles775 | theory. | 12:07 |
| BlueT_ | hmm wasn't able to connect to launchpad server, but fine now :) | 12:07 |
| wgrant | Or maybe it was just a coincidence, and LP was aving general issues. | 12:08 |
| Boobek | hi | 12:11 |
| jelmer | hi Boobek | 12:11 |
| Boobek | :) | 12:12 |
| Boobek | hi | 12:12 |
| Boobek | I have the same problem | 12:12 |
| Boobek | http://paste.ubuntu.com/411559/plain/ | 12:12 |
| Boobek | I can't get a branch from launchpad | 12:12 |
| geser | hmm, is edge having problems currently? it looks like it's missing CSS styles | 12:13 |
| Boobek | I forget to doing something? | 12:13 |
| wgrant | It looks like it's half-upgraded. | 12:14 |
| jelmer | Boobek: Do you have a ssh key registered on Launchpad and present on your local machine ? | 12:14 |
| Boobek | yes. | 12:14 |
| jelmer | wgrant, geser: mthaddon is working on it | 12:15 |
| Boobek | ohh.. wait | 12:15 |
| jelmer | Boobek: Can you try 'ssh -v bkanyo@bazaar.launchpad.net' ? | 12:16 |
| noodles775 | Did edge just update? I'm not seeing *any* style. | 12:16 |
| noodles775 | losa ^^ | 12:16 |
| mthaddon | noodles775: yes, that's the problem I pasted in channel | 12:17 |
| Boobek | jelmer, output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/411562/plain/ | 12:17 |
| Boobek | I'm reinstall my system. | 12:18 |
| Boobek | for a week ago | 12:18 |
| jelmer | Boobek: It looks like it accepted none of your ssh keys - does launchpad have any of the keys mentioned in the log file? | 12:18 |
| wgrant | edge looks happy now. | 12:18 |
| Boobek | where can I find the log file? | 12:19 |
| Boobek | jelmer, where can I find the log file? | 12:19 |
| jelmer | Boobek: I mean the output from 'ssh -v' you just pasted | 12:20 |
| Boobek | jelmer, ssh -v? -v is an unknown argument | 12:23 |
| jelmer | Boobek: You've just pasted the output of 'ssh -v bkanyo@bazaar.launchpad.net'... | 12:24 |
| NCommander | Build can not be retried | 12:28 |
| NCommander | WTF?! | 12:28 |
| wgrant | NCommander: It's already Needs Building. | 12:28 |
| wgrant | Or Successfully built. | 12:28 |
| NCommander | wgrant: no, it did that when it was Failed | 12:28 |
| NCommander | wgrant: it then became needs building | 12:29 |
| wgrant | ARGH | 12:32 |
| wgrant | Somebody broke the build API massively. | 12:32 |
| wgrant | Changed all the status titles. | 12:33 |
| wgrant | Hm, I wonder if that was related to the recipe stuff that landed recently. | 12:34 |
| wgrant | Anyway, yay, broken scripts. | 12:34 |
| jelmer | Boobek: Still there? | 12:39 |
| Boobek | yes | 12:41 |
| Boobek | I see the help pages | 12:41 |
| Boobek | on LP | 12:41 |
| wgrant | (Bug #559143) | 12:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 559143 in soyuz "Build status title changes break API and uglify forms" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559143 | 12:42 |
| Boobek | jelmer, i solve my problem. First I can't find the sshedit link on LP ( https://launchpad.net/~bkanyo/+editsshkeys ) | 12:45 |
| Boobek | now it's work, sorry for wasting your time | 12:45 |
| Boobek | and thx;) | 12:46 |
| jelmer | Boobek: You're welcome :-) | 12:50 |
| radoe | If I like to refer to a particular commit (like 99505) of lp:emacs branch in a bug comment, ist there some shortcut or do I need to copy the full URL like http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/emacs/trunk/revision/99502? | 13:05 |
| jelmer | radoe: as far as I know there's no easy way to link to a specific commit | 13:06 |
| jelmer | for branches something like lp:~vcs-imports/emacs/trunk should work | 13:07 |
| radoe | jelmer: thanks, I will use the full URL then, as I like to add which upstream commit fixes a bug reported against the version in Ubuntu. | 13:10 |
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| humphreybc | Heya guys, I'm trying to create a session blueprint for UDS | 13:30 |
| humphreybc | I'm not sure what I project I should assign it to - "ubuntu" or the project(s) it affects | 13:30 |
| humphreybc | i've tried to assign it to ubuntu and create it, it takes me to this page, but it's not listed | 13:31 |
| humphreybc | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-m | 13:31 |
| jelmer | humphreybc: hi | 13:49 |
| rye | Hello, is there known bug about e.g. https://launchpad.net/bugs/556687 returning "Not allowed here" but https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/556877 is completely available ? | 13:49 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/556687) | 13:49 |
| humphreybc | hey jelmer | 13:49 |
| wgrant | rye: Different number. | 13:49 |
| rye | oops | 13:50 |
| humphreybc | i *think* i figured it out | 13:50 |
| humphreybc | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/doc-collaboration | 13:50 |
| humphreybc | could you have a quick look just to check? | 13:50 |
| jelmer | humphreybc: That appears to be associated with UDS-M ok. | 13:51 |
| humphreybc | jelmer: fantastic | 13:52 |
| humphreybc | :) | 13:52 |
| NCommander | can anyone tell me what x-lazr-oopsid: OOPS-1560EB1428 is? | 14:18 |
| ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1560EB1428 | 14:18 |
| NCommander | oh | 14:18 |
| NCommander | wow | 14:18 |
| NCommander | handy | 14:19 |
| NCommander | except I can't access that page :-/ | 14:19 |
| NCommander | the armel apport retracer keeps getting that oops | 14:19 |
| * maxb wonders why there's no help contact today | 14:20 | |
| jelmer | maxb: I am the help contact today | 14:33 |
| jelmer | Oh, I hadn't noticed I should put myself in the topic | 14:33 |
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| jelmer | sorry | 14:33 |
| * maxb points jelmer and NCommander at each other | 14:34 | |
| NCommander | jelmer: can you make heads and/or tails of my oops? | 14:39 |
| jelmer | NCommander: I'm looking at the moment, trying to find back my credentials first | 14:39 |
| james_w | NCommander: you are trying to edit e.g. a package task when there is a lucid targeted task for that package | 14:57 |
| james_w | NCommander: are you getting 500 or 4XX response code? | 14:57 |
| wgrant | Bug 556515 | 14:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 556515 in malone "OOPS when editing conjoined bugtasks via API" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/556515 | 14:58 |
| wgrant | It'd be a 500. | 14:58 |
| jelmer | james_w: that's what we just found out, based on the backtrace | 14:58 |
| jelmer | wgrant: thanks | 14:58 |
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| NCommander | james_w: 500 | 15:09 |
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| ahasenack | hey guys, just got a "server internal error" with login.launchpad.net, thought I should let you know: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/411672/ | 17:02 |
| ahasenack | it's actually the 2nd or 3rd time in the past few days | 17:02 |
| ahasenack | right when I'm trying to login, give my credentials and hit login | 17:02 |
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| ahasenack | I opened a bug about it, have fun | 17:14 |
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| mtaylor | internal server error: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~eraser029/boots/cursesui/files | 21:18 |
| maxb | LOSAs: Loggerhead in need of a kicking ^^^ | 21:19 |
| Chex | maxb: on it, thanks | 21:20 |
| mtaylor | thanks Chex ! | 21:24 |
| dickelbeck | Hi, I have a few simple requests | 21:38 |
| dickelbeck | There are 3 branches as part of project Kicad. They are being updated every 6 hours from sourceforge.net. I need this to stop for all 3 branches. | 21:39 |
| dickelbeck | We are about to complete our switchover, I just did the final sync from there manually by clicking the nice button. | 21:40 |
| dickelbeck | Is this better asked on the launchpad "questions" tracker, everyone out drinking already? | 21:41 |
| zyga | dickelbeck: I think it depends on the timezone you are in, no | 21:42 |
| dickelbeck | Not so much, there are bloody Marys. | 21:43 |
| dickelbeck | I know its still too early in Australia even for that, lightweights. | 21:45 |
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| Zarathoustra | hi chan! | 23:18 |
| Zarathoustra | Is there somebody that can access to the launchpad registry database? | 23:20 |
| Zarathoustra | I'm still waiting for somebody fix the problem I get to create my account to join a project... | 23:22 |
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