| nigelb | vish, I just got busy in other areas. | 01:22 |
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| crimsun | nigelb: so is 5 May the actual date? I was confused between in being referred to as "Saturday" | 01:23 |
| nigelb | crimsun, yes... its May 5th, Wednesday | 01:23 |
| crimsun | also, I'm traveling internationally, so I have no idea what my schedule is like | 01:23 |
| crimsun | about the only time I know definitively is the following week | 01:24 |
| nigelb | aah, you can check out on the last few days if you can pitch in for an hour or so | 01:24 |
| nigelb | crimsun, if real life is getting in the way, no problem, I'll be asking lots of people :) | 01:25 |
| crimsun | also, I have a milestoned bug assigned to me that I can't easily debug due to lack of time, lack of hardware, and lack of in-depth knowledge of ARMv7 asm | 01:27 |
| nigelb | oooh. | 01:32 |
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| Joeseph64 | Metacity crashes periodically on my hardware in Lucid Beta 2. However, it gives no error message, so what information should I add for reproducibility? | 02:48 |
| dboy | 10.04B2...libjpeg62 found in respository, libjpeg NOT found...is this a bug? | 02:51 |
| micahg | dboy: does a package require libjpeg? | 02:55 |
| dboy | yes. I think this may have something to do with Deb move to libjpeg7 from libjpeg62 | 02:58 |
| micahg | dboy: which package? | 02:59 |
| dboy | Deb lists say dont build pkgs with libjpeg62 anymore...but thats the one still in lucid | 02:59 |
| micahg | dboy: we don't have libjpeg7 yet in ubuntu | 02:59 |
| dboy | well for instance konqueror (koq-plugins I think) | 03:00 |
| micahg | dboy: not the version in lucid | 03:01 |
| dboy | yea ok thats prolly it thx | 03:02 |
| micahg | dboy: transition, I would guess, would be in lucid + 1 | 03:02 |
| damascene | any one knows how to add a page to ubuntu wiki? | 03:45 |
| damascene | yoasif, | 03:45 |
| yoasif | ? | 03:47 |
| damascene | yoasif, pm? | 03:51 |
| yoasif | ok | 03:51 |
| mrburns | damascene: i think you just type in the address for the new page that you want to create then you can use select from a template or empty page | 03:54 |
| damascene | mrburns, couldn't do it. does not seem to have the choice | 03:54 |
| damascene | I just wanted to open a page with the name mlterm | 03:56 |
| damascene | so I can add some information on a project to implement it with the RTL languages | 03:57 |
| damascene | mrburns, could you start a page with the name Mlterm for me? | 03:57 |
| micahg | damascene: just navigate to it after logging in | 03:57 |
| mrburns | here i will walk you through it | 03:57 |
| mrburns | enter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mlterm | 03:58 |
| mrburns | then you can create a page from scratch by clicking on that link or select a link from one of the formatted pages from the list in the left column | 03:59 |
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| damascene | thanks | 03:59 |
| mrburns | no problem | 04:00 |
| damascene | what template should I chose for a program? | 04:00 |
| damascene | I want to put information about mlterm and the possibility to have it installed for RTL languages | 04:01 |
| mrburns | rtl team has a page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RTLTeam you could use their template | 04:02 |
| damascene | got it. but there should be a page to discuss mlterm | 04:03 |
| mrburns | yes you can create your page (mlterm) and create a link to each others page | 04:07 |
| Linux000 | First bug fix - Would a DEP-3 header go in the debdiff as plain-text, no marks or anything? | 04:08 |
| micahg | Linux000: it goes in as part of the patch | 04:09 |
| Linux000 | Thanks | 04:13 |
| damascene | is it possible to upload photo to the wikipage? | 04:14 |
| mrburns | damascene: i think so...click attachments toward the top of the page you are creating then file to upload see what that does | 04:17 |
| mrburns | damascene: then once that is uploaded enter code in the wiki page something to the effect [[Image:filename.jpg|thumb|alt=alt text for screen readers.]] depending on what you want | 04:20 |
| mrburns | damascene: this should give you a start http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_tutorial | 04:21 |
| damascene | thanks | 04:21 |
| mrburns | no problem...it just takes some getting use to | 04:23 |
| biff2kplus1 | So I just joined the bugsquad and I had a question about triaging a bug that is fixed in a newer version... | 04:23 |
| micahg | biff2kplus1: what's the question? | 04:24 |
| biff2kplus1 | A bug exists in the latest version of OpenOffice for 9.10 but testing it with the OO ppa or 10.04's OO the bug is fixed | 04:25 |
| biff2kplus1 | would one mark it Confirmed or Invalid? | 04:25 |
| micahg | biff2kplus1: did you confirm the bug in 9.10? | 04:27 |
| biff2kplus1 | yes | 04:27 |
| micahg | biff2kplus1: well, then, if it's fixed in Lucid, then probably Fix Released | 04:28 |
| micahg | biff2kplus1: it's preferable if you have an upstream bug that's shown as fixed when marking it fix released, though | 04:28 |
| biff2kplus1 | ok i didnt find a duplicate but i'll do some more checking around | 04:29 |
| micahg | biff2kplus1: well, you could check the changelog upstream for 3.2 to see if it was listed | 04:30 |
| biff2kplus1 | ah good idea | 04:30 |
| drclue | Howdy all, trying to curry a little interest in Bug 518608 that I filed back in February. At one point the drive caddy in question actually worked, then after some upgrades it did not. I figure this had something to do with a special devices entry to correct an errant device reporting type SCSI when it was actually IDE. | 04:36 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 518608 in linux (Ubuntu) "unable to mount ID 04ce:0002 ScanLogic Corp. SL11R-IDE IDE Bridge (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518608 | 04:36 |
| drclue | I did not know that bringing up an actual bug report in a channel about bugs was such a conversation killer ;) | 04:47 |
| drclue | All right friends romans and countrymen , I have an old piece of gear , an IDE drive caddy (as described in bug 518608) | 05:03 |
| drclue | This caddy apparently returns a bogus inquiry value indicating a SCSI device. At one time this device was supported I expect | 05:03 |
| drclue | that there was some sort of special device entry that remapped it back to ID (just a guess) and somewhere along the line this entry got retired or superseded. I could I guess hack my OS , but in my school bus out here in the middle of nowhere I have a dozen computer bricks and a few mid towers and it would be a real time burner to make the hack and keep the hack | 05:03 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 518608 in linux (Ubuntu) "unable to mount ID 04ce:0002 ScanLogic Corp. SL11R-IDE IDE Bridge (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518608 | 05:03 |
| drclue | The bug report has been there for a couple of months with no interest and I just want to give the bug a nudge as the cure is already in the code pile somewhere and I think just needs to be pushed back into the distro update stream | 05:06 |
| drclue | This is on of those bugs that should require absolutely NO NEW CODING , but rather simply some copy-n-paste somewhere | 05:09 |
| zeroseven0183 | I have a question. I've come up on a bug report that suggests a correct Russian translation for Pidgin. This should be handled upstream, right? Or do we have a translation team for this package? Thank you | 05:11 |
| zeroseven0183 | The bug report is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/377233 | 05:11 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 377233 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "Russian language characters not displayed correctly (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New] | 05:11 |
| drclue | The special devices cure for (bug 518608) had existed for a long time, and either simply got dropped or a subsequent version of the device caused the entry to be superseded | 05:11 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 518608 in linux (Ubuntu) "unable to mount ID 04ce:0002 ScanLogic Corp. SL11R-IDE IDE Bridge (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518608 | 05:11 |
| micahg | zeroseven0183: add the ubuntu-translations project | 05:12 |
| zeroseven0183 | Thank you! | 05:13 |
| drclue | I'm more than happy to trade coding , as while I have been coding for over 30 years those areas I work in do not focus on this area and although I could code it myself it would not be the best application of my skills | 05:14 |
| micahg | drclue: you're more likely to get an answer for this in #ubuntu-kernel , might not get a response for another 6 hours though | 05:14 |
| micahg | drclue: or at least until the start of european business hours | 05:15 |
| drclue | [micahg] Thanks for the suggestion, I'll make some noise over there too. I'm not looking for a fast food drive through cure. Being one who donates thousands of hours each year , I know better than to wish for instant gratification | 05:16 |
| damascene | it this good https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mlterm | 05:32 |
| damascene | :) | 05:36 |
| damascene | * is it | 05:36 |
| zeroseven0183 | Is there a feature in Launchpad or an application that summarizes the bug reports you're subscribed to or have been triaging so you can easily monitor them? | 06:55 |
| zeroseven0183 | Something like a program that will list all the bug reports you're involved, those that were updated within 4 weeks, those that does not have replies for some time other than manually going to Launchpad and checking the bug reports...? | 06:56 |
| zeroseven0183 | Anyway... just a thought. Perhaps suscribing to the bug report is the best way to monitor the bug report as of now. | 06:59 |
| micahg | zeroseven0183: yes, subscribing is goof | 06:59 |
| micahg | *good | 07:00 |
| micahg | :-/ | 07:00 |
| zeroseven0183 | The only concern I have when subscribing is that replies will fill up my inbox. Although it's not a big problem when you're using Gmail | 07:01 |
| micahg | zeroseven0183: filters :) | 07:02 |
| zeroseven0183 | Yup. I was just thinking of summarizing the bug reports. | 07:02 |
| micahg | zeroseven0183: set your gmail contact on LP to youraddy+lp@gmail | 07:02 |
| micahg | zeroseven0183: that's the easy filter | 07:02 |
| zeroseven0183 | I mean, a summary or a list which includes last modified | 07:02 |
| micahg | zeroseven0183: you can also filter on header | 07:02 |
| zeroseven0183 | Yes. I already applied filters to bugs and it's fun | 07:03 |
| zeroseven0183 | Gmail is really a big help to bug triagers :-) | 07:03 |
| micahg | zeroseven0183: thunderbird works fine :) | 07:03 |
| zeroseven0183 | I might try it some time | 07:04 |
| zeroseven0183 | I just have to improve my triaging skills for now | 07:04 |
| zeroseven0183 | By the way, Ubuntu Countdown timer is now available. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown 20 days to go! | 07:06 |
| anoteng | Can a bug controller please set Bug #554695 to triaged for me? I'm suggesting medium importance. | 07:30 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 554695 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[ubuntu lucid] both suspend and hibernate fail on netbook (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554695 | 07:30 |
| anoteng | Could a bug controller please set status on bug #554627 to triaged, I'm in doubt about importance but I'm suggesting high: "Makes a default Ubuntu installation generally unusable for some users" | 08:34 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 554627 in linux (Ubuntu) "boot freeze on "Starting up ..." with generic kernel (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554627 | 08:34 |
| BUGabundo | m0rning | 09:10 |
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| xteejx | bug 559054 noticed this just now, could be an upgrade issue with beta 2!!! | 09:53 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 559054 in ubuntu "compiz-gnome needs to be removed during partial upgrade (affects: 1)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559054 | 09:53 |
| xteejx | bug 559054 anyone? | 09:56 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 559054 in ubuntu "compiz-gnome needs to be removed during partial upgrade (affects: 1)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559054 | 09:56 |
| anoteng | Could a bug controller please set status on bug #554627 to triaged, I'm in doubt about importance but I'm suggesting high: "Makes a default Ubuntu installation generally unusable for some users" | 11:50 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 554627 in linux (Ubuntu) "boot freeze on "Starting up ..." with generic kernel (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554627 | 11:50 |
| jj1983 | my Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC worked fine with ubuntu 9.10 but did not show up with live cd of beta 1 10.04 | 12:40 |
| jj1983 | please do rectify this bug | 12:41 |
| jj1983 | to the concerned | 12:41 |
| yofel | !bug | jj1983 | 12:42 |
| ubot4` | jj1983: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 12:42 |
| jj1983 | ubot4`:actaully am running irc from windows so not able to report the bug as per launchpad though i have logged in | 12:45 |
| ubot4` | jj1983: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 12:45 |
| yofel | jj1983: the page explains too how to report a bug from launchpad directly, but can't you use a wired connection in ubuntu? or save the report and report it from 9.10? we'll need some information from the live disk to find the issue | 12:54 |
| baptistemm | it's strange that RTL8139 doesn't work, this is one of the most common NIC i see out there | 12:54 |
| yofel | jibel: also, you said beta1 disk, can you please try it with the beta2 disk? | 12:55 |
| yofel | jj1983: ^ | 12:58 |
| yofel | jj1983: sry | 12:58 |
| yofel | jibel: sry | 12:59 |
| thekorn | hey bugsquad, | 13:21 |
| thekorn | if someone feels like doing a quick bugpattern review, feel free to look at | 13:21 |
| thekorn | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thekorn/apport/ubuntu-bugpattern/+merge/23091 | 13:21 |
| thekorn | thanks ;) | 13:21 |
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| softwayer | Hey guys! When I try to install Ubuntu 10.04 beta 2 (Desktop), I boot from the CD, see the new Ubuntu logo... And that's all! My monitor says me "No signal". Is this bug reported yet? | 13:44 |
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| vish | kamusin: no need to apologize ;) | 16:00 |
| kamusin | vish, :) | 16:50 |
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| thekorn | bdmurray, hggdh, hi, can one of you please do a quick review of | 18:46 |
| thekorn | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thekorn/apport/ubuntu-bugpattern/+merge/23091 | 18:46 |
| thekorn | I think it is working correctly | 18:47 |
| bdmurray | well then | 18:51 |
| bdmurray | thekorn: I don't think escaping the - in the Title is necessary | 18:51 |
| bdmurray | thekorn: otherwise looks great | 18:53 |
| thekorn | bdmurray, ok, will check on this again, thanks for the review | 18:53 |
| bdmurray | thekorn: I tested it without the \- and it worked fine | 18:54 |
| thekorn | ok, will change it, as it is more readable without it | 18:54 |
| thekorn | ok, changed and pushed | 19:05 |
| bdmurray | thekorn: how did you set the commit message in the mp? | 19:06 |
| thekorn | bdmurray, when creating a merge proposal in the web UI expand "Extra Options", | 19:07 |
| thekorn | there is an optional commit message test-field | 19:07 |
| thekorn | s/test/text | 19:07 |
| bdmurray | okay so it wasn't part of a bzr command then? | 19:08 |
| thekorn | no | 19:08 |
| xteejx | bug 559447 - more dependency problems in today's updates, have notified motu, but don't think they deal with it...it hasn't been reported yet | 19:08 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 559447 in samba (Ubuntu) "[lucid] samba is to be removed during update (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559447 | 19:08 |
| xteejx | btw Hi all!! | 19:09 |
| thekorn | hey xteejx | 19:09 |
| xteejx | hey thekorn | 19:10 |
| xteejx | btw ignore the above it isn't built completely yet...didn't realise ;) | 19:10 |
| jcastro | duanedesign: ping | 19:24 |
| duanedesign | hello jcastro | 19:25 |
| jcastro | your mail got stuck in the queue but I approved it | 19:25 |
| jcastro | can you just mail me your application directly and I'll process it now | 19:25 |
| duanedesign | jcastro: wow. that is great news | 19:25 |
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| jcastro | duanedesign: well I haven't read it yet. :D | 19:26 |
| jcastro | but I'm sure it will be impressive! | 19:26 |
| duanedesign | jcastro: ha ha. i see you approved the email in the queue | 19:26 |
| jcastro | right | 19:26 |
| duanedesign | jcastro: well that is still good news ;) | 19:27 |
| jcastro | can you send it to me to jorge@ubuntu.com real quick? | 19:27 |
| duanedesign | yes sir | 19:28 |
| jcastro | duanedesign: done, thanks! Your work on ubuntu one has been impressive! | 19:32 |
| minutti | i want to learn how to use JTR | 19:32 |
| minutti | quit | 19:33 |
| Mic-R | I've got a question concerning bug #1, ie "Microsoft has a majority market share": why was it chosen? | 19:34 |
| duanedesign | jcastro: i love the project. it utilizes a lot of the techologies I am interested in. Plus the devs are really nice and helpful | 19:34 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 1 in tilix (and 16 other projects) "Microsoft has a majority market share (affects: 256) (heat: 1688)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 19:34 |
| Mic-R | Wouldn't something like "Best Apple in usuability" be more target-aimed? Just having marketshare doesn't necessarily mean that you're good at something | 19:34 |
| kklimonda | Mic-R: but it is also a goal | 19:34 |
| bcurtiswx_laptop | anyone here know the program that calibrates touchscreens? | 19:41 |
| vish | duanedesign: you also need to mention what importance you would assign to the bugs you listed | 19:44 |
| vish | duanedesign: in the mail application for BC ^ , | 19:45 |
| vish | bcurtiswx_laptop: GNOME Color Manager | 19:47 |
| vish | i havent used it though.. | 19:48 |
| duanedesign | vish: ahh, ok | 19:50 |
| baptistemm | persia, around? | 19:50 |
| persia | Hey baptistemm | 19:52 |
| bcurtiswx_laptop | vish: i don't see a touchscreen calibration tool there | 19:52 |
| baptistemm | persia, I have a question about rfcomm, pand and dund, why there is not init.d script provided in the bluez package? | 19:53 |
| baptistemm | how people are supposed to have these daemon started? | 19:54 |
| persia | baptistemm: My personal opinion is that the right way to handle those is to add udev hooks, so that the services start when the hardware is detected. | 19:55 |
| baptistemm | but currently there is nothing :) | 19:56 |
| yofel | baptistemm: which release are you talking about? | 19:57 |
| baptistemm | but yes I could add an event for those (actually I was looking to bug 416056) | 19:57 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 416056 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Automatic rfcomm binding at startup doesn't work in Karmic (affects: 17) (dups: 1) (heat: 102)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416056 | 19:57 |
| yofel | I was looking at the package descriptions, and it seems that both pand and dund are deprecated in bluez 4 | 19:58 |
| persia | baptistemm: Yeah. I think we had an init.d script in jaunty, and that got lots of bugs about pan0 being defined when the hardware had no bluetooth support. | 19:58 |
| yofel | I have rfcommd running here though (Kubuntu) | 19:58 |
| baptistemm | yes there are but actually there is not even init.d scripts for then, which is a real bug IMHO | 19:59 |
| yofel | well, if you add one it should be a upstart script anyway | 19:59 |
| baptistemm | persia, which upstart we could perhaps do something | 20:00 |
| baptistemm | yes | 20:00 |
| baptistemm | s/which/with/ | 20:00 |
| baptistemm | yofel, I wonder how rfcommd was started | 20:00 |
| baptistemm | hmm, actually bluez provides rfcomm and not rfcommd | 20:00 |
| persia | baptistemm: No, really, I think it should be udev scripts, not upstart or init. Essentially, we only want to start the services when the hardware is present. | 20:01 |
| yofel | ah, correction, I have krfcommd running | 20:01 |
| baptistemm | persia, as bluetoothd starts only on udev, we could rely on it to start the other deamon (actually i don't know a lot about udev rules) | 20:03 |
| persia | baptistemm: That makes sense to me: just use the same mechanism. | 20:04 |
| persia | yofel: Do you have bluetooth or IR hardware available for krfcommd? | 20:05 |
| yofel | if you mean if I have a bluetooth chip here yes: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0b05:b700 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. Broadcom Bluetooth 2.1 | 20:07 |
| Ciemon | ls | 20:07 |
| persia | OK. Then you *should* have a daemon running :) Just wanted to make sure kbluetooth didn't have the same issue gnome-bluetooth had in jaunty. | 20:08 |
| xteejx | Ciemon: / directory listing: | 20:08 |
| xteejx | / root | 20:08 |
| xteejx | /junk no virus | 20:08 |
| xteejx | /virus still no virus | 20:08 |
| xteejx | lol ;) | 20:08 |
| yofel | ^^ | 20:08 |
| Ciemon | xteejx: thanks.. a reply to a gaff that I've not seen before :D | 20:09 |
| Ciemon | sorry about that | 20:09 |
| xteejx | lol its cool I've done it plenty of times :) | 20:09 |
| Damascene | + | 20:15 |
| duanedesign | vish: jcastro i resent the email with the Importance I would set for the bugs that had 'Undecided' | 20:30 |
| xteejx | Has anyone noticed how empathy doesn't make any sounds even when it is set to? Is this a know issue with empathy and pulseaudio or something? | 20:31 |
| yofel | oh, I know that one, I tried that once too after someone in +1 complained about that, didn't manage to get it to work | 20:33 |
| xteejx | yofel: It's annoying, keep missing messages lol | 20:36 |
| xteejx | people begin to think I'm ignorant | 20:36 |
| baptistemm | persia, actually bluetooth deamon use again an init script... | 20:56 |
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| persia | baptistemm: I think that's a bug :) | 21:00 |
| baptistemm | persia, grep 'start)' -A5 /etc/init.d/bluetooth | 21:01 |
| persia | baptistemm: Looking at the init script, it seems to only exist to work around a udev issue, and just triggers the udev event. | 21:06 |
| baptistemm | perhaps "start on (startup and filesystem and started udev and stopped udevtrigger and stoppedudevmonitor and started dbus)" could do the trick | 21:10 |
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| baptistemm | persia, release 4.45-0ubuntu1 has the explanation | 21:13 |
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| baptistemm | so we can now use use udev rules | 21:13 |
| persia | Right. | 21:16 |
| baptistemm | but I guess I waked up too late :) | 21:17 |
| baptistemm | it's over for lucid | 21:17 |
| xteejx | Is the PS3 and ppc64 not supported anymore? | 21:19 |
| xteejx | How do I grab source for a different Ubuntu version than what I have? | 22:30 |
| yofel | xteejx: pull-lp-source <pkg> <release> I think. That will get you the latest source for that release | 22:33 |
| crimsun | clarification: that will retrieve the latest *accepted* source package | 22:33 |
| yofel | ah | 22:33 |
| xteejx | thats cool thanks | 22:33 |
| crimsun | you should generally make sure that debcheckout works, as it honors the Vcs-Bzr line in debian/control | 22:34 |
| crimsun | (and file a bug against the Lucid version if it doesn't!) | 22:34 |
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