| rickspencer3 | wow gwibber_messages is a very bid database! | 00:28 |
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| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2010/04/todays-slip-cover-feature.html | 00:45 |
| pitti | Good morning | 06:48 |
| czajkowski | morning | 07:40 |
| baptistemm | bonjour | 08:11 |
| didrocks | good morning | 08:13 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, sorry for all the python import warning cron spam -- no idea why it started doing that :-( | 09:11 |
| pitti | seb128: but at least it's running reasonably stable now | 09:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, hello | 09:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, that's ok, I though you have been restarting a lot when first looking ;-) | 09:11 |
| * pitti accepts gnome-games and hopes the new pkgbinarymangler will behave | 09:12 | |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 09:12 |
| didrocks | hey pitti, seb128 | 09:13 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 09:13 |
| pitti | seb128: meh, seems pkgbinarymangler on i386 buildd was held back and disabled for some reason | 09:45 |
| * pitti pings lamont | 09:45 | |
| seb128 | pitti, :-( | 09:45 |
| vish | seb128: hi.. the humanity distribution upload was from last week or from the latest packagers branch.. | 09:49 |
| vish | ? | 09:49 |
| seb128 | vish, it was the one you asked me to upload one week ago which didn't get approved before beta2 | 09:50 |
| vish | hmm .. :( | 09:50 |
| seb128 | why ":("? | 09:50 |
| vish | seb128: well , i fixed a few others bugs in lp as well , after that , expecting them to be uploaded at the same time | 09:51 |
| seb128 | ? | 09:51 |
| seb128 | we can still do uploads | 09:51 |
| seb128 | I don't see the issue and why the ":(" | 09:51 |
| vish | ah , neat , then no problems | 09:51 |
| seb128 | what got uploaded was what was in bzr when you asked for upload | 09:52 |
| vish | :) | 09:52 |
| seb128 | I'm sure what else should have happened? | 09:52 |
| seb128 | ok, good ;-) | 09:52 |
| vish | seb128: i thought that was the last possible uplaod for Lucid , obviously i was wrong :) | 09:52 |
| seb128 | right | 09:53 |
| seb128 | there is still a week for fixing bugs | 09:53 |
| vish | neat.. thanks | 09:53 |
| al-maisan | err .. "apt-get dist-upgrade" on the other lucid laptop wants to remove the compiz and compiz-gnome packages. That's not right, is it? | 10:10 |
| mvo | al-maisan: no, wait a little bit | 10:13 |
| mvo | al-maisan: until a new compiz is build | 10:13 |
| al-maisan | mvo: ok .. thanks! | 10:13 |
| mvo | seb128: that is the issue btw, metacity breaks older compiz, but new compiz is not the in the archive yet | 10:13 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 10:14 |
| seb128 | mvo, thanks | 10:14 |
| didrocks | mvo: heh, I guess we ask for rebuilding in the same time (just got i386, you got the others :)) | 10:21 |
| mvo | didrocks: LP tells me "start in 12h" | 10:34 |
| mvo | didrocks: that is pretty bad | 10:34 |
| didrocks | mvo: yeah, I saw that too :( I think rescoring could be good if possible | 10:34 |
| mvo | I think seb128 has the magic for this | 10:35 |
| seb128 | those got accepted yesterday night | 10:35 |
| seb128 | I'm wondering what the buildds have been doing | 10:35 |
| seb128 | mvo, no, pitti has, slangasek already pinged him about it | 10:35 |
| didrocks | seb128: they have been dep wait, we just relaunch the ping | 10:35 |
| didrocks | s/ping/build | 10:35 |
| seb128 | mvo, I've archive admin powers, not buildds | 10:35 |
| seb128 | didrocks, depwait should automagically work | 10:36 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it's weird | 10:36 |
| seb128 | do you depwait on the wrong version? | 10:36 |
| pitti | didrocks: what do you need bumped? | 10:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, compiz | 10:36 |
| didrocks | seb128: I checked again, it seems not | 10:36 |
| pitti | yes, a failed build due to depwait will reset the build score to 0 | 10:36 |
| pitti | Rescoring build amd64 to 5000... | 10:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 10:38 |
| mvo | is LP lying to me? it looks like compiz/i386 is waiting too | 10:39 |
| didrocks | pitti: can you do the same for i386, please? | 10:39 |
| pitti | already done | 10:39 |
| pitti | except that LP timed out on me, bah | 10:39 |
| pitti | seems to be on the slow side today :/ | 10:40 |
| pitti | nope | 10:40 |
| pitti | didrocks: I'll keep trying | 10:40 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks | 10:40 |
| seb128 | why was the updated build-depends needed for there? | 10:40 |
| seb128 | do you statically use the lib? | 10:41 |
| seb128 | ie do you need compiz to be "built" with the change | 10:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: compiz seems to take some part of the button rendering layout from the -dev. and the patch "13_better_support_for_button_layout.patch" in metacity show that we have weird behavior in compiz if not rebuilt | 10:43 |
| seb128 | weird | 10:44 |
| pitti | . o O { nemiver is really nice } | 10:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, ;-) | 10:50 |
| geser | in which corner should the notifications bubbles show up? because right now I see it show up in the upper left corner for a fraction of a second before it jumps to right corner (but sometimes I have two notifications bubbles for a short time: one in left corner and one in the right corner) | 11:06 |
| seb128 | didn't change since karmic | 11:06 |
| seb128 | right corner | 11:07 |
| geser | hmm | 11:07 |
| seb128 | notify-osd code almost didn't change this cycle | 11:07 |
| geser | I guess I need to file a bug | 11:07 |
| seb128 | do you use a multiscreen setup or something? | 11:07 |
| geser | yes | 11:07 |
| seb128 | k, could be it | 11:09 |
| geser | I've a dual-screen setup and when there are 2 or more notifications event in the queue, I get two notification bubbles till the last event is shown (tested with notify send) | 11:11 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| === njpatel_ is now known as njpatel | ||
| pitti | chrisccoulson, fta: wrt. bug 527138, should we just remove enigmail from the archive? it might better suited to install from tbird's extension manager? | 11:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 527138 in enigmail "enigmail is uninstallable in lucid, needs update to 1.0 - blocked by missing thunderbird-config" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527138 | 11:40 |
| pitti | (tbird should be fine now) | 11:40 |
| pitti | seb128: bug 530605 has a million tasks; should they really be all open against lucid? or is the libgnome-keyring fix sufficient? | 11:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 530605 in desktopcouch "gvfs-mount doesn't always work. gvfsd-smb starts using 100% cpu." [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/530605 | 11:46 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i'm not sure. i thought we were going to fix that actually (but i need to check) | 11:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, it has been used as a collector for all cpu eating issues | 11:46 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - should bug 544139 be milestoned? it doesn't appear on the RC bugs, but i'm not sure who it should be assigned to... | 11:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 544139 in consolekit "Active VT tracking can fail at startup" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/544139 | 11:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, I would close it and ask people who still have a bug to open new bugs | 11:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, the gvfs cpu issue has been fixed in libgnome-keyring or should have been | 11:47 |
| pitti | seb128: ack | 11:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, other bugs are mainly design issue as discussion this way, now that libgnome-keyring uses dbus it runs in new class of interesting issues if used out of the mainloop etc | 11:48 |
| seb128 | discussion this way -> discussed this week | 11:48 |
| pitti | seb128: FYI, I reenabled karmic in the retracers, it's catching up now (it caught up with lucid) | 11:49 |
| seb128 | \o/ on lucid catching | 11:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 11:50 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I assigned bug 557640 to you, which seems related to the other search engine changes you were working on | 11:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 557640 in firefox "[Lucid Beta2] nrf-003 testcase failed Default "Welcome to Ubuntu" page doesn't appear without connectivity" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557640 | 11:55 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: it sounds like it'd magically fix itself once you switch back to google? | 11:55 |
| seb128 | pitti, schedule seems tighter than usual this cycle to get GNOME .1 in lucid, is that still something we should count on? | 11:56 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i'm not sure the switch back to google will fix that | 11:56 |
| chrisccoulson | that's probably an issue with ubufox actually | 11:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, or should we rather play backporting git changes | 11:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, or do .1 in sru updates? | 11:56 |
| pitti | seb128: like hardy, we should probably put point releases into SRUs either way (up to .2 or .3?) | 11:57 |
| pitti | seb128: when will .1 be released? | 11:57 |
| cassidy | seb128, what's the deadline for a next Empathy stable release? | 11:57 |
| seb128 | cassidy, wednesday next week | 11:57 |
| pitti | seb128: for bugs >= high I'd backport either way | 11:57 |
| seb128 | if I read the calendar correctly | 11:57 |
| cassidy | seb128, ok, I'll release it this afternoon or at the beginning of next week | 11:57 |
| pitti | seb128: we can still accept some .1 packages during final freeze (the first week, anyway) | 11:58 |
| seb128 | pitti, tarballs due on the 26 | 11:58 |
| pitti | seb128: ugh, that's definitively outside the lucid final range | 11:58 |
| pitti | seb128: so, I guess .1 in SRU (so that they'll be in 10.04.1) and backporting important stuff? | 11:59 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - did you recreate bug 557640? it's working as expected here (ie, it redirects to a local start page) | 11:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 557640 in firefox "[Lucid Beta2] nrf-003 testcase failed Default "Welcome to Ubuntu" page doesn't appear without connectivity" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557640 | 11:59 |
| seb128 | right, I wouldn't have asked if it was the week before | 11:59 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: no, I just saw it on the RC bug list | 11:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, was my though too, I wanted to mention it and check with you | 11:59 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm :-/ | 11:59 |
| pitti | seb128: thanks | 11:59 |
| pitti | seb128: weird; we don't seem to release earlier than usual; does GNOME release later? | 11:59 |
| seb128 | cassidy, thanks | 11:59 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: if it's not reproducible, set it to incomplete and lower priority | 12:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, I think they are one week off compared to usual | 12:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, they did some schedules change for GNOME3 | 12:00 |
| pitti | seb128: I remember that we usually even uploaded them right after RC | 12:00 |
| seb128 | ie respinned a bit things around | 12:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, it's usually one week earlier | 12:00 |
| seb128 | which is tight but doable | 12:00 |
| seb128 | one week later is out of scope | 12:01 |
| seb128 | it will avoid the rush before rc | 12:01 |
| seb128 | which is at least something ;-) | 12:01 |
| seb128 | hum, lunch ready | 12:01 |
| * seb128 bbl | 12:01 | |
| didrocks | seb128: enjoy | 12:01 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm sure people will cry for things like http://git.gnome.org/browse/gvfs/commit/?id=1cb5861795d375719b196ecf93fb0a10397414d3 :-) | 12:02 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm happy to do and test git snapshots of gvfs/gdu and some other bits if you want me to | 12:03 |
| didrocks | pitti: well, I mean, seeing the price of the iPad, they deserve to see "iPad" as a title :-) | 12:05 |
| pitti | kenvandine: can you please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus for DX/OLS? | 12:06 |
| pitti | hm, where is our favourite Kubutu rocker today? | 12:06 |
| al-maisan | Is there any chance of getting the enigmail plugin to work with thunderbird3 btw? | 12:11 |
| pitti | al-maisan: that's the point of that bug | 12:13 |
| al-maisan | pitti: ah, I see. | 12:16 |
| didrocks | some users have an unique UNE interface: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43533691/The%20Blue%20Screenshots.png (that's a bug, still can't find it, he will try with a cleaned /home) | 12:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will review all git changes next week | 12:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, but I think we should "snapshot" git for some of the things | 12:17 |
| seb128 | or git diff between stable and current and use that as a patch | 12:17 |
| pitti | seb128: yeah, whatever you prefer | 12:18 |
| seb128 | gvfs being one | 12:18 |
| didrocks | seb128: will you need some help for the review? | 12:18 |
| pitti | seb128: but usually there are tons of translation updates, so a make distcheck in git trunk seems easier | 12:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I can use help for this yes ;-) | 12:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, right | 12:18 |
| * seb128 dessert and coffee, brb | 12:18 | |
| * pitti -> lunch | 12:20 | |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - ok, i reproduced that bug now (i had to clear my cache) ;) | 12:28 |
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| Laney | is it worth deviating from Debian just to add an lpi patch? | 12:54 |
| seb128 | Laney, depends | 12:57 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's the case for quite some GNOME components | 12:58 |
| seb128 | out of the fact that we package those before debian since we track unstable series where they don't | 12:58 |
| Laney | seb128: not this one (gbrainy) | 12:58 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell wanted to work on an upstream vendor lib | 12:59 |
| seb128 | which would make those deltas be reduced | 12:59 |
| Laney | I'm doing the merge anyway | 12:59 |
| Laney | just wondered whether we could sync it instead | 12:59 |
| seb128 | I've no strong opinion on whether those entries are worth the diff for games | 13:00 |
| seb128 | I would say it's low cost to keep it for lucid now | 13:00 |
| Laney | it needs some porting to the new upstream release | 13:00 |
| Laney | lets see if it worked | 13:00 |
| seb128 | didrocks, how busy are you for lucid? looking to bug to work on still? | 13:21 |
| didrocks | seb128: I'm doing nothing important right now (update testing and minor things). So if you have something, I can handle it :) | 13:22 |
| seb128 | didrocks, would you like to look at the desktop effects option hang issue? | 13:22 |
| didrocks | (btw, reinstalling karmic with the old theme seems *so ugly* now :)) | 13:22 |
| didrocks | seb128: sure, is there a bug report for that? | 13:23 |
| didrocks | (noticed that but didn't look at g-c-c bug) | 13:23 |
| seb128 | yes | 13:23 |
| seb128 | one with quite some duplicates, let me get the number | 13:23 |
| didrocks | seb128: bug #554106 ? | 13:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 554106 in gnome-control-center "Gnome Appearance Properties dialog hangs when changing desktop effects" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554106 | 13:24 |
| seb128 | right | 13:24 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you start being faster than me it seems ;-) | 13:25 |
| * seb128 hugs didrocks | 13:25 | |
| didrocks | seb128: I will never be, don't be afraid :) | 13:25 |
| * didrocks hugs seb128 | 13:25 | |
| seb128 | hey pedro_ | 13:26 |
| pedro_ | bonjour seb128! | 13:26 |
| seb128 | pedro_, how are you? | 13:27 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I would not be surprised if that was another sideeffect of gtk-threading there | 13:28 |
| pedro_ | seb128, good, thanks , what about you? | 13:28 |
| seb128 | 2.30 had fixes for this which lead to look when things are not hanlded as they should | 13:28 |
| seb128 | pedro_, I'm good thanks! | 13:28 |
| seb128 | pedro_, how is lucid looking for you? | 13:29 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, I just saw "mutex" in the bt and become to be frigthened. Let's take it as a good exercice :) | 13:29 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hehe | 13:29 |
| pedro_ | seb128, is looking great here, can't wait for the final release :-) | 13:29 |
| pedro_ | salut didrocks | 13:30 |
| seb128 | didrocks, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614256 too | 13:30 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 614256 in Appearance "crashes when installing icon themes by dnd" [Normal,New] | 13:30 |
| didrocks | hey pedro_ | 13:30 |
| baptistemm | olà Pedro | 13:30 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes, I saw you discussed about that yesterday. Having a look too | 13:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks, obviously the capplet still has locking issues, maybe looking at the recent changes as an inspiration and apply that where it needs to be still done would be a good start | 13:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks, as you said a good learning experience too if you never looked at such issues ;-) | 13:31 |
| pedro_ | bonjour baptistemm! | 13:31 |
| seb128 | lut baptistemm | 13:31 |
| baptistemm | salut seb128 | 13:31 |
| baptistemm | I feel better to have some power to triage all those blueooth bugs | 13:31 |
| didrocks | seb128: definitely :) | 13:31 |
| kenvandine | pitti, will do | 13:32 |
| seb128 | bah | 14:03 |
| seb128 | g-s-d is crash land on launchpad | 14:03 |
| seb128 | it should really not crash because any of the .so is crashing | 14:03 |
| seb128 | ie lot of those are due to keyboard or libgnomekbd issues | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, i just noticed all those crashes in my inbox :( | 14:05 |
| pitti | shouldn't crash> hm, it's all in-process, isn't it? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, "shouldn"t was a "would be nice if it was redesigned to not be this way" | 14:11 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - ok, we figured out bug 557640 in the end | 14:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 557640 in firefox "[Lucid Beta2] nrf-003 testcase failed Default "Welcome to Ubuntu" page doesn't appear without connectivity" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557640 | 14:26 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: \o/ | 14:26 |
| * kenvandine hugs rodrigo_ for always using a NEWS file :) | 14:26 | |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, I do it because I know you like it :D | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | :) | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | i wish tedg cared what i liked :) | 14:27 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | he makes me guess what's changed | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | with ted was around for me to harass :) | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | s/with/wish | 14:28 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, talking about this, do you know how to see the bug# for bzr commits you used 'bzr commit --fixes lp:..." for? | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, nope | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | there must be a way though | 14:29 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, that's the only thing preventing me from generating NEWS automatically :D | 14:30 |
| pitti | it's in bzr log | 14:33 |
| pitti | revno: 1757 | 14:33 |
| pitti | fixes bug(s): https://launchpad.net/bugs/539427 | 14:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 539427 in apport "apport-collect gives apport-gtk help" [Low,Fix released] | 14:33 |
| pitti | committer: Martin Pitt <martin.pitt@canonical.com> | 14:33 |
| pitti | branch nick: trunk | 14:33 |
| pitti | [...] | 14:33 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, it's in the bzr log of the branch, but not in trunk it seems | 14:41 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: ah, it won't be kept across merging, I guess | 14:42 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, yeah, seems so, and when doing the release I just branch from trunk | 14:42 |
| pitti | rodrigo_: bzr log -n 2 might help | 14:42 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, btw, how can I know rhythmbox was started because a device was connected? | 14:42 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, it's called with the device as argument on the command line I guess | 14:43 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ie "rhythmbox <device>" | 14:43 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, I can't get the command line of rhytmbox from the plugin, except via /proc, afaik, right? | 14:44 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I don't know, better asking on #rhythmbox I guess | 14:44 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, ah, cool, that shows it indeed | 14:44 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm going to have hardly any bugs left after today! | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | pitti, see that mail i sent with the U1 bugs? | 14:53 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: sounds great! | 14:53 |
| pitti | kenvandine: didn't get to it yet, sorry | 14:53 |
| kenvandine | pitti, no worries... it's a long list | 14:54 |
| kenvandine | pitti, should we put anything about those on the release status page? | 14:54 |
| kenvandine | or wait until they get targeted ? | 14:54 |
| pitti | kenvandine: feel free to add them | 14:55 |
| kenvandine | ok, will do | 14:55 |
| kenvandine | pitti, put them under RC bugs, Triaged problems? | 14:55 |
| pitti | yes | 14:56 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, on a bug fixing rampage today? ;-) | 15:04 |
| pitti | go, chrisccoulson, go! | 15:04 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - the firefox upload which i will do later closes 5 bugs | 15:05 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, do you still have the xulrunner startup notification one on your lucid list btw? | 15:05 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, that's been fixed upstream in the 1.9.2 branch, and will be in the FF3.6.4 update | 15:05 |
| pitti | kenvandine: looked at it now -- it's just accepting the nominations? doing that now | 15:05 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, is that coming before lucid? | 15:06 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - that will come as a security update right after lucid | 15:07 |
| chrisccoulson | in fact, i'll probably be doing the update from UDS ;) | 15:07 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, fair enough, still looks weird to have that extra tasklist entry when you start your browser but I guess I'm picky there | 15:07 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I expect that we need to drop the milestones for most/many of them; but those can all be fixed in SRUs as well, so the lucid targetting still makes sense | 15:08 |
| pitti | kenvandine: ok, all nominations accepted | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | pitti, thx | 15:10 |
| kenvandine | saving wiki page now | 15:10 |
| pitti | kenvandine: hm, you added all of them? only high/critical should be on that list | 15:11 |
| pitti | (the release blockers) | 15:11 |
| kenvandine | oh... damn | 15:11 |
| * kenvandine edits | 15:11 | |
| pitti | kenvandine: also, since these are by and large done by OLS, I don't think we need to track all of them on our status page | 15:12 |
| pitti | (but if it helps you, please do) | 15:12 |
| pitti | kenvandine: but usually those have an associated status | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | humm... do they have their own status for the release meeting? | 15:12 |
| pitti | usually yes, so that we can see at a glance where we are | 15:13 |
| pitti | i. e. which ones are well on track (some are also "fix committed" upstream, btw), which ones are difficult because they lack reproducers, etc. | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | pitti, ok moved the fixed committed ones and dropped < high | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | also FYI, the desktopcouch run_couchdb() bug is not fixed | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | bug 530541 | 15:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 530541 in desktopcouch "desktopcouch-service crashed with RuntimeError in run_couchdb()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/530541 | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | chad is working on it still, he thought it was fixed, but not so much :/ | 15:22 |
| pitti | kenvandine: yes, I thought I said so on the wiki page | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | you did | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | just making sure that wasn't stale info :) | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | it really is still broken | 15:23 |
| pitti | kenvandine: thanks for the info | 15:23 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - is there any way to avoid uploading a tarball again when uploading a new revision of a package with dput? | 15:49 |
| chrisccoulson | (i should probably know the answer to that already) | 15:49 |
| chrisccoulson | but uploading 50MB tarballs takes a long time | 15:50 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: not with dput, but you can specify -sd on debuild or dpkg-buildpackage | 15:50 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - oh, i didn't know that. i'll give that a try, thanks | 15:50 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: you can also drop it from the source_changes an re-debsign | 15:50 |
| pitti | (if building the source takes long) | 15:50 |
| chrisccoulson | building the source doesn't take long, but uploading the 50MB tarball that i only uploaded a week ago takes a long time ;) | 15:50 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, that was much quicker | 15:53 |
| chrisccoulson | about 3 seconds :) | 15:53 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, does uploading a new revision with tarball work? | 15:59 |
| pitti | yes, it does, as long as it's identical | 15:59 |
| seb128 | usually you get an error saying the tarball is already there no? | 15:59 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 15:59 |
| seb128 | I didn't do that for years | 15:59 |
| seb128 | I though it would complain that you try to overwrite the tarball ;-) | 15:59 |
| seb128 | I've a sucking ul, I avoid uploading tarballs twice ;-) | 15:59 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, it works. i always did that before just because i didn't know how to do it without the tarball ;) | 15:59 |
| chrisccoulson | but that's ok for small tarballs | 16:00 |
| chrisccoulson | but for 50MB firefox uploads, it's not so great ;) | 16:00 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: the default behaviour should be quite fine | 16:00 |
| pitti | i. e. with tar for -1 and -0ubuntu1, and without tar otherwise | 16:00 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: wow, you rock (just read the changelog) | 16:01 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - heh, it got a few bugs closed :) | 16:01 |
| * pitti updates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus for the one RC bug | 16:02 | |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, nice update indeed ;-) | 16:04 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine: bug #559151 may become a heavy duplicate bug soon. Introduced in Gwibber with the 2.29.95.0ubuntu1 just released (sorry if you're not the gwibber guy) | 16:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 559151 in gwibber "gwibber-service crashed with KeyError in get_records()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559151 | 16:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, when is the meeting today? | 16:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, dst changes confused my calendar | 16:05 |
| pitti | seb128: just started | 16:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 16:05 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, looking | 16:06 |
| pitti | seb128: but our turn is still some 45 to 60 minutes out | 16:10 |
| Nafai | Good morning guys | 16:10 |
| pitti | good morning Nafai, how are you? | 16:11 |
| Nafai | pretty well | 16:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, I'm just hanging there, end of week mood now :p | 16:11 |
| seb128 | hey Nafai | 16:11 |
| bcurtiswx | hi Nafai | 16:11 |
| pitti | seb128: speaking of good moods: http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html :-) | 16:12 |
| pitti | really nice | 16:12 |
| seb128 | waouh | 16:12 |
| didrocks | good :) | 16:14 |
| bcurtiswx | that is nice | 16:14 |
| pitti | so, lamont fixed the buildd chroots, let's give gnome-games another spin | 16:14 |
| seb128 | pedro_, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/528299 | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 528299 in nautilus "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in g_mount_spec_match_with_path()" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:15 |
| seb128 | pedro_, did you bug watch the wrong bug? | 16:15 |
| pedro_ | seb128, let me check | 16:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, nice! what was the issue on the buildd? | 16:15 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, pkgbinarymangler is on hold and only gets updated manually | 16:15 |
| pitti | seb128: there were two catastrophes within 4 weeks, and both outside lamont's core hours :) | 16:16 |
| seb128 | I see | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, ok, testing a fix | 16:17 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine: good, thank you | 16:17 |
| pedro_ | seb128, all fixed now, thank you for checking ;-) | 16:22 |
| seb128 | pedro_, np, thanks | 16:23 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: you don't happen to have an updated idea about bug 447431 yet, do you? | 16:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 447431 in gnome-desktop "gnome-settings-daemon dies with BadMatch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/447431 | 16:30 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - not yet, i thought the upstream change would have fixed the crash | 16:31 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i'll see if i can still reproduce that in a bit | 16:31 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: ah, you could in the past? | 16:31 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: if not, perhaps you can arrange ssh access to slangasek's machine | 16:32 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, it crashed for me before | 16:32 |
| pitti | it's a good SRU candidate, too, though | 16:32 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: just mentioning in case you run out of RC bugs :) | 16:32 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i don't think i'll run out, but my list of assigned bugs is quite a bit shorter than it was this morning :) | 16:33 |
| seb128 | bah this g-c-c hand on desktop effects change is weird | 16:34 |
| seb128 | I'm wondering if that's another gtk locking issue similar to the crasher on theme dnd | 16:34 |
| mclasen | seb128: did you look more into that ? | 16:35 |
| Nafai | Has anyone filed a bug about the latest metacity? I can't use alt-space to bring up the window menu and I get the following output in ~/.xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/411659/ | 16:35 |
| seb128 | mclasen, didrocks is trying to look into it right now | 16:35 |
| seb128 | mclasen, I'm wondering if it would not be easier to just do the theme install in an callback | 16:36 |
| seb128 | or in a idle function or something | 16:36 |
| seb128 | but that's maybe because I don't know how to debug locking issues | 16:37 |
| didrocks | I confirm that reverting this commit (http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-control-center/commit/?id=e34e6b4eebbb957107e88334faef2ed8a02d5eea) workaround the lock issue | 16:38 |
| seb128 | shrug | 16:39 |
| didrocks | I still don't see why, we have one thread, not two… it's certainly a code path where a lock isn't freed before we try to get a new lock | 16:40 |
| mclasen | didrocks: 'the lock issue' ? are you seeing deadlocks ? | 16:40 |
| seb128 | mclasen, our "desktop effects" is an extra tab in the same capplet, and it locks when closing the dialog displayed after wm change now | 16:41 |
| seb128 | it being the capplet | 16:41 |
| didrocks | mclasen: the hang in selecting the desktop effect seems to be due to a deadlock | 16:42 |
| mclasen | of course, removing the locking will 'prevent' the deadlocks | 16:42 |
| didrocks | mclasen: it was for checking that the those locks were the one to blame there | 16:42 |
| didrocks | not a solution, for sure | 16:42 |
| mclasen | does your code ever take the gdk lock ? | 16:43 |
| seb128 | no | 16:44 |
| seb128 | mclasen, the code is basically the same as your desktop-effects one was some cyles ago | 16:48 |
| seb128 | we didn't resync on what you did since but it was inspired of it | 16:48 |
| seb128 | mclasen, we have a gtk_dialog_run() after selecting the option in the dialog | 16:48 |
| seb128 | + a gtimeout for the default choice | 16:49 |
| seb128 | and the capplet freezes when clicking on one of the buttons | 16:49 |
| chrisccoulson | if you need any help looking at this, then just let me know. i might have slightly more free cycles now ;) | 16:52 |
| pitti | seb128: our turn now, in case you want to join the meeting and bring up the thawing? | 16:53 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, we do yes | 16:53 |
| seb128 | neither me of didrocks have experience with those locking issues | 16:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok | 16:54 |
| didrocks | so, removing only the gdk_threads_{enter,leave} don't fix that gdk_threads_init (); has to be removed too | 16:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, let me know when,if I should speak up there ;-) | 16:54 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: ^ in capplets/appearance/appearance-main.c | 16:54 |
| pitti | seb128: the guys are just digesting my reports | 16:54 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - ok, thanks. i will take a look at that shortly and see if i can figure it out | 16:55 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I'll just give a quick look at the path we take from your patch to see if we recall the function making the gdk_threads_init call | 16:55 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614256 too | 16:56 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 614256 in Appearance "crashes when installing icon themes by dnd" [Normal,New] | 16:56 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, if you feel like looking at it | 16:56 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - ok, thanks :) | 16:56 |
| pitti | seb128: new gnome-games built, and got a nice diet :) | 17:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, \o/ | 17:08 |
| didrocks | bah, I don't see how gdk_thread_init() can be called twice (the first being at the capplet initialization) :/ | 17:10 |
| didrocks | well, we have two process during the hang, maybe the second one? | 17:11 |
| seb128 | didrocks, want a change from that while chrisccoulson look at it? | 17:16 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you can do the empathy update if you want ;-) | 17:16 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, at least, I will have the impression to do something useful :) | 17:16 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, on it! | 17:16 |
| pitti | bryceh: there are still three beta-2 WIs left on https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-xorg-multitouch -- do you know whether they are on track? | 17:16 |
| pitti | four, actually; I moved them to final | 17:18 |
| pitti | good night and nice weekend everyone! | 17:38 |
| * pitti goes to prepare for his wife moving to Munich tomorrow for her summer internship | 17:39 | |
| seb128 | pitti, same, enjoy! | 17:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh, good luck and say hello to her too ;-) | 17:42 |
| pitti | will do | 17:42 |
| didrocks | pitti: enjoy your week-end! | 17:48 |
| didrocks | grr, empathy code changed a lot and that's the second patch that doesn't apply at all | 17:51 |
| seb128 | :-( | 17:52 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I didn't know that when I gave you the update, sorry about it | 17:52 |
| didrocks | seb128: no pb, I just try to not break everything but as I don't really know the notification and indicator patches, I'll probably ask for a double check | 17:53 |
| seb128 | pedro_, bug #559205 or similar are probably users who uninstalled compiz by dist-upgrading earlier today when it was not installable | 17:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 559205 in gedit "Title bar missing from all windows" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559205 | 17:59 |
| pedro_ | seb128, okay, will check that with the reporters, thanks! | 18:00 |
| didrocks | the NotificationData structure has been removed and we use it quite heavily in our patch | 18:01 |
| seb128 | didrocks, check with cassidy or kenvandine if they have an hint maybe there? | 18:01 |
| didrocks | right | 18:01 |
| seb128 | cassidy, not nice to do architectural changes in stable updates :p | 18:02 |
| mclasen | seb128: well, thats what you sign up for when you patch the world... | 18:02 |
| seb128 | mclasen, right ;-) | 18:02 |
| didrocks | cassidy: kenvandine: empathy 2.30.0.1 removed NotificationData which is heavily used in both our indicator and notification patch. What do you think? Should we reintroduce them (commit db7ff361a82a72d0bcef94c82877ffc1e783e8ee in upstream git)? | 18:03 |
| seb128 | we tried to get that change upstream but everybody disagrees on how compiz should be actived or not etc | 18:03 |
| seb128 | mclasen, oh, speaking about the empathy change? my note was about the desktop effect change | 18:03 |
| didrocks | well, let's do something easy now. Updating metacity :) | 18:04 |
| Nafai | didrocks: Hopefully it will fix the bug I found this morning! :) | 18:05 |
| didrocks | Nafai: right clicking on the window bar? for some users, that crashes | 18:05 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmmm, my buttons have re-ordered themselves since i updated today :-/ | 18:05 |
| Nafai | didrocks: no, alt-space no longer works | 18:05 |
| didrocks | Nafai: didn't saw that in upstream git | 18:06 |
| chrisccoulson | that might explain why i keep closing windows accidentally when i try to maximise them | 18:06 |
| Nafai | http://paste.ubuntu.com/411659/ <- I get this in ~/.xsession-errors | 18:06 |
| didrocks | Nafai: yeah, it's related so | 18:06 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, right, theme updates, close in the corner is what lucid will use | 18:08 |
| Nafai | lunching | 18:11 |
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| kenvandine | didrocks, eek | 18:15 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: well, you know this patch more than I, let's wait for cassidy reply? | 18:17 |
| kenvandine | i wonder why they removed it | 18:18 |
| * kenvandine is cloning | 18:18 | |
| kenvandine | didrocks, it might not be a big deal, i'll look at it after lunch | 18:22 |
| * kenvandine just uploaded fix for the gwibber first run bug... whew | 18:22 | |
| * kenvandine runs out to lunch | 18:30 | |
| didrocks | kenvandine: enjoy | 18:46 |
| didrocks | taking my dinner now | 18:46 |
| seb128 | dinner! | 18:49 |
| alphaelectric | Hi there | 19:09 |
| seb128 | weekend now, have fun everybody | 20:57 |
| didrocks | have a good week-end seb128! | 20:57 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks, you too! | 20:57 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, i have updated the patch for empathy | 21:15 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: sweet, what did you do? | 21:15 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, gonna do some testing before upload though | 21:15 |
| kenvandine | dropped all the NotificationData stuff | 21:15 |
| kenvandine | it wasn't that bad | 21:15 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: so, no more NotificationData? it wasn't used? | 21:16 |
| kenvandine | not really | 21:16 |
| kenvandine | we were using it to get references to EmpathyChat | 21:16 |
| kenvandine | but we don't need to | 21:16 |
| kenvandine | and now we don't have to free as much stuff | 21:16 |
| kenvandine | so probably better | 21:17 |
| didrocks | what is the EmpathyChat object? | 21:17 |
| didrocks | (sorry, not familiar with that stuff) | 21:17 |
| kenvandine | the reference to the chat | 21:17 |
| kenvandine | like which chat to raise | 21:17 |
| kenvandine | etc | 21:17 |
| kenvandine | so a couple places i had to change args from cb_data->chat to chat | 21:18 |
| didrocks | and so, the indicator used that to be able to raise the right chat window? | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 21:18 |
| didrocks | oh, you still have the reference so | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | i don't think it used to | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | had to get it from NotificationData | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | but that seems to have been ported | 21:19 |
| didrocks | understood, sweet :) | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | the indicator stuff all just piggy backs off notifications | 21:19 |
| didrocks | right, I saw that. It's just difficult to dive into this if you don't have any reference :/ | 21:20 |
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| crimsun | pitti: the delaying of PA startup has revealed a race in two PA modules that now result in some desktop sessions falling back to a dummy/null sink, i.e., inaudible audio by default. I'm unsure whether to milestone it, but it is a rather poor user experience. | 21:50 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - ok, this gnome-appearance-properties locking is giving me a headache ;) | 21:50 |
| crimsun | pitti: this is bug 557421 | 21:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 557421 in pulseaudio "module-udev-detect races with module-default-device-restore" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557421 | 21:50 |
| chrisccoulson | i won't sleep now until it is fixed though | 21:50 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: please, take some sleep :) | 21:50 |
| didrocks | (I will have some soon ^^) | 21:51 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, i can't now i've started looking at it ;) | 21:51 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I'm particularly interested in the way you will debug/solve this, as a case study :) | 21:51 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: you see, there are two process? | 21:51 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, i haven't figured out the best way of debugging it yet, but when i have, i will let you know ;) | 21:51 |
| didrocks | sweet :) | 21:52 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, there's 2 processes? | 21:52 |
| chrisccoulson | i see a single thread in gdb | 21:52 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: yeah, when it hangs | 21:52 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: so do I | 21:52 |
| didrocks | but ps aux | grep gnome-app | 21:52 |
| didrocks | you will see two processes, one being the son of the other | 21:52 |
| chrisccoulson | 1 second, i will just break on fork | 21:53 |
| didrocks | (I tried to add some g_printf() before the gdk_thread_init()) | 21:53 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 21:53 |
| didrocks | but it seems just to be used by the parent process on window initialization | 21:53 |
| chrisccoulson | one process is for the thumbnailing | 21:53 |
| didrocks | ah, ok | 21:54 |
| didrocks | how did you see that? | 21:54 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - http://paste.ubuntu.com/411799/ | 21:54 |
| chrisccoulson | that's a guess anyway ;) | 21:54 |
| chrisccoulson | if it doesn't exec() another binary, then it will keep the same process name | 21:55 |
| didrocks | ok, "catch fork", right? | 21:55 |
| chrisccoulson | break fork | 21:55 |
| didrocks | never new the difference :) | 21:56 |
| didrocks | knew* | 21:56 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i'm not sure if there's a difference either ;) | 21:56 |
| chrisccoulson | i never used catch before | 21:56 |
| didrocks | there are "catchpoints" and "breakpoint" | 21:56 |
| didrocks | "A catchpoint is another special breakpoint that stops your program when a certain kind of event occurs" | 21:57 |
| Nafai | Hi guys, I'm back around if anyone needs me. Kind of was ill for a bit during lunch. | 21:57 |
| didrocks | seems like a breakpoint to me :) | 21:57 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah, it seems similar | 21:58 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, uploaded.... | 21:58 |
| * kenvandine heads out for a bit | 21:58 | |
| kenvandine | :) | 21:58 |
| chrisccoulson | hey Nafai, i hope you feel better now ;) | 21:58 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: sweet :) | 21:58 |
| Nafai | yeah, I do, thanks | 21:58 |
| didrocks | Nafai: hey, time for week-end to me. If you don't know what to do, you can still read some triaging guide stuff and look at incoming bugs on UNE ;) | 21:58 |
| didrocks | me -> tired -> week-end -> will connect a little this week-end | 21:59 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: think to sleep ;) | 21:59 |
| Nafai | thanks, I might do that a bit. I've got a bug to look at in the meantime | 21:59 |
| Nafai | have a great weekend | 21:59 |
| didrocks | thanks Nafai ;) you too! | 21:59 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - i'm trying to figure out if i can get gdb to break when this particular mutex is locked/unlocked | 22:00 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: in fact, it should be the same, you can't break on "event" | 22:00 |
| didrocks | so, I guess it's an alias for those case | 22:00 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not too sure how to do that yet, but i'm having a go with watch / rwatch on various memory locations at the moment | 22:00 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: in fact, if you want it to hang, you can even removed the locks, just keep gdk_thread_init() | 22:01 |
| didrocks | remove* | 22:01 |
| chrisccoulson | setting a watch on mutex->__data.__lock seems to be what i want to get gdb to break at the right place | 22:05 |
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| chrisccoulson | didrocks - ok, now i've seen it with my own eyes in GDB (it attempts to lock the mutex when it's already locked) | 22:25 |
| chrisccoulson | i just need to figure out how it happens now :-/ | 22:25 |
| chrisccoulson | it doesn't look like there's any other threads involved | 22:25 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, time for some ice cream, i will carry on debugging that in a bit | 22:27 |
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| chrisccoulson | didrocks - fixed it :-) | 23:41 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - it seems that gtk_dialog_run needs to be guarded by a gdk_threads_enter/gdk_threads_leave (just like gtk_main, which also runs a main loop) | 23:45 |
| chrisccoulson | anyway, i really am going to get some food this time :) | 23:46 |
| mclasen | any gtk call needs to be protected by gdk_threads_enter | 23:49 |
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