[03:43] hey everyone [03:52] hey, humphreybc [03:52] did you see the etherpad work we did a bit earlier? [03:52] nope haven't got the link [03:53] humphreybc: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/interviewswithhumphreybc [03:56] cheers, in a call atm [03:56] be with you in asec [03:56] np. [03:56] I'm watching some tv. :) [03:57] fair nuff' [04:18] back now [04:18] me too [04:24] Google just informed me of this (which was also posted to the forums): http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24334/ [04:25] oH [04:26] lol @ solution 6 [04:31] just renaming 'help' to 'manual'? [04:32] apparently [04:33] or replacing the inbuilt help with the manual [04:33] that'd go down well hahaha [04:33] okay, let's create a persona for UMP that we're going to use [04:33] http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UMPpersona [04:56] humphreybc: You need to get the credits list written up pretty soon so I can get it in the PDF. [04:56] true [04:56] oka [04:57] We need everyone's names (spelled correctly!), also if their name is usually written in a different language/script, it'd be cool if I had that. [04:57] We need to know the source of any material that was copied from elsewhere so we can check the license and give proper attribution. [05:11] right [05:11] who's here at the moment? [05:20] looks like it's just us. [05:28] hrm [05:31] i will be hanging out here more often from now on [05:37] You miss us, doncha? :) [05:53] humphreybc: leaving to go on my next holiday today [05:53] so that's where everyone is! [05:53] on holiday! [06:01] hehe [06:01] ill be gone for ages [06:01] a week and a half [06:07] an [06:07] man* [06:07] oh well [06:07] you'll have to work extra hard when you come back [06:07] lol [06:07] when do you get back? [06:07] yea, that script is mostly done [06:07] next sunday [06:07] ok [06:07] not this one [06:07] is that the bzr script? [06:08] yes [06:08] neat [06:08] so what does it do? [06:08] it works but isnt very informative yet [06:08] just stick in a tonne of echo statements [06:08] yea [06:08] what does it do? [06:08] well, first it installs bzr [06:09] kay [06:09] then asks for your name and email [06:09] and uses them with bzr whoami [06:09] yup [06:09] then it does: bzr launchpad-login [06:10] and then downloads the branch from lp [06:10] nice [06:10] SSH keys? [06:10] yea, i have no idea how im going to check for an ssh key [06:10] using bash anyway [06:10] lol [06:11] godbyk will know [06:11] probably [06:11] the all-knowing godbyk [06:11] all knowing godbyk [06:11] hahahaha [06:11] :) [06:11] hehe [06:11] what are you wanting to do? [06:11] godbyk: is there a way to check if a user has an ssh key using the terminal? [06:11] or in a bash script [06:12] most likely. [06:12] what kind of key? [06:12] ssh key [06:12] humphreybc: how are we going to know if they have it uploaded to lp? [06:12] nisshh: upload it for them? [06:13] maybe [06:13] nisshh: well, you can check the default location and filename: ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub [06:13] the user model is that they've never used lp/bzr before [06:13] in bash it'd be: [06:13] humphreybc: true [06:13] if [ -f ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub ]; then echo "Key exists!"; else echo "Key is missing!"; fi [06:13] you might have to change it to python when you get back and then write it so it sets everything up [06:14] I'm not sure if gpg is aware of that key, or not. [06:14] running gpg --list-keys doesn't turn up that key. [06:14] on my box [06:14] we can have our setup script/program create a key and upload it? [06:14] yea [06:14] i wonder if launchpad has an API for registering a new account [06:14] humphreybc yes i can create an ssh key in the script [06:14] something to pester thumper about [06:14] :P [06:15] meh [06:15] focus is on doing everything for them :P [06:16] yea [06:17] but don't worry about it now, enjoy your holiday [06:17] humphreybc: launchpadlib doesnt have the ability to register new accounts i dont think [06:18] lol [06:18] going freediving [06:18] ALOT [06:18] is that just jumping off cliffs? [06:18] humphreybc: you NZ people are insane [06:19] what's freediving? [06:19] jumping off cliffs into water, right? [06:19] without a compressed air tank [06:19] oh [06:19] just normal snorkelling [06:19] lol [06:19] so just swimming and holding your breath [06:19] no [06:19] with a snorkell [06:19] you're lucky the water's warm [06:19] i did snorkelling in fiji, wasnice [06:20] nice! [06:20] yea i spear fish too [06:20] neat [06:20] kill dem fish [06:20] meh, die fishies! [06:21] how has the branch got 10mb bigger in the last 5 days [06:22] humphreybc: because bzr never forgets. :-( [06:22] at least from what I understand. [06:22] so it will only get bigger over time. [06:22] unless there's some way to flush stuff. [06:22] * godbyk knows nothing about bzr. [06:23] * nisshh knows enough to get him by [06:24] i still cant beleive my computer refuses to boot from my SATA drive! [06:24] unbelievable! [06:27] humphreybc: your not going to show everyone what you have been working on with the mugshots till i get back are you? [06:28] coz that would be mean! [06:43] lol [06:43] probably not [06:43] it isn't finished yet [06:43] anyway [06:43] work [06:43] g2g [09:52] morning all [09:55] morning! [09:58] Morning everyone but one of you all! [11:03] godbyk: are you there? [11:28] heads up guys! screenshots involving folders would need an update , folder colors have changed ! [11:28] vish: what! [11:28] * ubuntujenkins AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG [11:28] before people start swearing , it was granted a UIFe [11:28] ;) [11:29] * ubuntujenkins we have been conoicaled again [11:29] * vish tickles humphreybc [11:30] are they in lucid yet vish,I don't see a difference [11:31] ubuntujenkins: just now it was uploaded , humanity-icon-theme (0.5.1.9) will be the one [11:33] thanks vish I think i may do all those screenshots my self [11:36] vish: have you got a freeze exceptions link please [11:37] ubuntujenkins: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mono/+bug/556024 [11:37] Launchpad bug 556024 in ubuntu-mono "freeze exception for humanity-icon-theme in lucid" [High,New] [11:37] thanks vish just want soemthing to link to in my bug report [11:37] * vish suspects we would be doing a few more changes as well [11:38] this is the third time we have had a problem [11:40] vish which e-mail do the freeze exceptions get anounched on? [11:41] * ubuntujenkins obviously isn't subscribed to enough mailing lists [11:42] ubuntujenkins: dont know , i just saw the upload in > http://feeds.ubuntu-nl.org/LucidChanges?format=xml [11:43] ok thanks vish [11:44] np... it was actually done a week ago , but wasnt sure it would be granted UIFe [11:45] any idea how much has changed? [12:00] guess there's need for a clever image-part search-and-replace :/ [12:03] thorwil: we have a script that replaces the window buttons already so i expect thats the way to go with this as well [12:04] it just depends on the changes, different langauges may have the folders in different orders [13:49] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/doc-collaboration [13:50] i *think* i figured it out [13:50] oh wait [13:50] wrong channel :P [14:56] * ubuntujenkins all the screenshots are only 26% done [17:08] * ubuntujenkins trying to understand code that you haven't been part of writing is hard [19:24] Red_HamsterX: ping [19:30] evening channel how are we all feeling? [19:49] 25% turquoise with a shot of leftward reification [19:49] lol, always random thorwil [20:59] we should have project cloaks for irc [21:12] * ubuntujenkins must be the only person here tonight [21:18] * dutchie is in a Belgian hotel [21:18] hello dutchie o/ how was rowing? [21:18] not hard [21:18] yet [21:19] we're going to the belgian national regatta tomorrow and sunday [21:19] good luck [21:20] cheers [22:08] Hi, ubuntujenkins. [22:08] hello Red_HamsterX how do? [22:09] Still busy with the seeking of jobs. Also the development of 3D modelling techniques. [22:09] mice, I pinged you to say they have changed the icons in lucid today [22:09] *nice [22:10] This seems somehow bad. [22:10] Which icons? [22:10] The button order or the artwork? [22:10] as far as i can tell all they have done is made them a darker orange. so i was thinking of ignoring it. Its the folders [22:10] art work [22:12] Red_HamsterX: http://imagebin.org/92405 is an after [22:12] picture [22:12] Was the nm-WiFi icon always Apple-like? [22:13] Or was it sideways before? [22:13] before http://imagebin.org/92406 [22:13] wifi has been like that for a while [22:14] I don't think it makes much of a difference. The shapes and positions are identical. [22:14] As is the gradient. [22:15] that was my thought I just wanted a second opinion. you wouldn't notice if your screen was set up to a different brightness etc [22:16] Well, you would, but it couldn't possibly confuse anyone. [22:16] We should probably overwrite the en screencap, though. [22:16] And any screencaps taken in other languages, if we're working in them anyway. [22:17] But I can't see it being a condition for rejecting an image. [22:17] yea that can be done, we have 26% of the images done. [22:17] can we make it so that we can get an archive before a language is finished? [22:17] Yep. [22:18] get_files.php?language=?? [22:18] Just go there and it'll build an archive. [22:18] It'll appear in data/ so you can download it without making the server rebuild anything. [22:19] legend that saves allot of clicking [22:19] http://screenshots.ubuntu-manual.org/get_files.php?language=fr -> http://screenshots.ubuntu-manual.org/data/fr.zip [22:19] It's a dumb script, though. It'll replace the archive every time that page is accessed. [22:19] Which shouldn't be a problem. [22:20] If there are no files to archive, it does nothing. [22:21] I'll be active in here again next week. [22:21] nope thats fine. the button script works btw. we need to make it replace the default search engine [22:21] I'm just taking this week off to job-hunt and learn. [22:21] you haven't missed much tbh [22:21] thats cool [22:21] I've been lurking. [22:21] i have found a project to fill the time http://blogs.sun.com/erwann/entry/zfs_on_the_desktop_zfs i would like it working in backintime for gnome [22:22] the etherpad is looking full we should have a meeting next weekend sometime [22:22] Probably a good idea. [22:22] what utc time suits you? [22:23] I'm in North America, without any real commitments to anything else, so I'm pretty open. [22:23] UTC-6 [22:24] That seems like an interesting project. [22:24] ok so utc evening might be good as titeuf is utc +1 and he works. I am utc +1 as the uk is on daylight saving [22:24] As a means of luring some Apple users, I mean. [22:25] if i get anywhere with it is another matter. Well i orignaly found a project that was dead. then found out about the mac thing. [22:26] they have the backup system right though all the linux ui are rubbish [22:26] timevault was the project i found [22:27] Nothing will make me change from having a local VCS server for my backup needs. [22:27] But, then, most of what I do wouldn't benefit from binary backups anyway. [22:29] I don't have the joys of a server unfortunaley. I would like one but have no real use for it so there is no point. [22:32] I'm back. ubuntujenkins, you needed me? [22:33] godbyk: nothing important, I was going to ask how to set up files so that i can give people a link like ben does. I have apache but thats as far as i got [22:34] i guessed you would know [22:34] ubuntujenkins: once you've installed apache, you have two more basic steps: 1. configure your router to port forward port 80 to the PC with apache on it; and 2. sign up for a (free) account at dyndns.org to get a name to point to your computer. [22:35] o thats rather easy. I may not be able to do it when at uni as i have no control over the router. [22:36] thanks kevin [22:36] you only need to worry about the router if it's blocking port 80 (firewall) or you have an internal (non-Internet-routable) IP addrewss. [22:37] If your PC at uni gives you a real IP, you can ignore the router step. [22:37] i will have to find out i go back in a week, where do i save the files for people to view? [22:38] Usually the default location for apache is something like /var/www/, but it varies from distro to distro. [22:39] You can also configure apache to look for a WWW/ dir in each user's home directory. [22:39] then you can host those as http://www.example.com/~ubuntujenkins/ [22:39] that would be a good idea, i will have a play [22:40] on a unrealted topic Red_HamsterX or godbyk any idea how i download this http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/jds/time-slider/ [22:40] its like a bzr repo [22:41] godbyk: i was thinking of having a quickshot meeting next weekend what utc time suits you best? [22:41] ubuntujenkins: I'll look at it in a sec. installing updates now and my computer is grinding away on something. dragging the whole system. down. [22:41] kk [22:41] ubuntujenkins: I'm pretty much free whenever. my timezone is utf-5 right now, though (due to DST) [22:42] ok so far utc evening appears to make sense [22:43] sounds good to me. [22:47] this is funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA [22:48] ubuntujenkins: this maybe, http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/p5i/0/SUNWgnome-time-slider.p5i [22:52] godbyk: that does apear to be the open solaris deb equivilent. any idea how would i get the source directory that i linked to? [22:55] ubuntujenkins: http://blogs.sun.com/erwann/ scroll all the way to the bottom and read 'where is the source?'. [22:55] links to an hg repository. [22:55] there are also some screencasts of time-slider on his blog there. [22:56] thats were i got it from, but how do i get a hg repo? [22:57] I'm not sure, I don't use hg much. [22:58] maybe just "hg clone URL"? [22:58] I'd find an hg tutorial and see. [22:58] ok thanks godbyk , i will have a look in the morning [22:58] night all [22:58] ubuntujenkins: g'night. [23:37] hi [23:38] Hello, JuanMarquez. [23:39] the ubuntu manual is avaliable in spanish righ now? [23:39] JuanMarquez: It's currently being translated. [23:40] You can track the progress of the translations here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual [23:40] And look at the translations in the manual here: http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/ [23:40] godbyk, wuoo, thank [23:41] JuanMarquez: Feel free to help out with the translations, too. :) [23:42] i see [23:42] see you, thank [23:43] bye [23:43] JuanMarquez: See you later.