[03:43] <humphreybc> hey everyone
[03:52] <godbyk> hey, humphreybc
[03:52] <godbyk> did you see the etherpad work we did a bit earlier?
[03:52] <humphreybc> nope haven't got the link
[03:53] <godbyk> humphreybc: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/interviewswithhumphreybc
[03:56] <humphreybc> cheers, in a call atm
[03:56] <humphreybc> be with you in asec
[03:56] <godbyk> np.
[03:56] <godbyk> I'm watching some tv. :)
[03:57] <humphreybc> fair nuff'
[04:18] <godbyk> back now
[04:18] <humphreybc> me too
[04:24] <godbyk> Google just informed me of this (which was also posted to the forums): http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24334/
[04:25] <humphreybc> oH
[04:26] <humphreybc> lol @ solution 6
[04:31] <godbyk> just renaming 'help' to 'manual'?
[04:32] <humphreybc> apparently
[04:33] <humphreybc> or replacing the inbuilt help with the manual
[04:33] <humphreybc> that'd go down well hahaha
[04:33] <humphreybc> okay, let's create a persona for UMP that we're going to use
[04:33] <humphreybc> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UMPpersona
[04:56] <godbyk> humphreybc: You need to get the credits list written up pretty soon so I can get it in the PDF.
[04:56] <humphreybc> true
[04:56] <humphreybc> oka
[04:57] <godbyk> We need everyone's names (spelled correctly!), also if their name is usually written in a different language/script, it'd be cool if I had that.
[04:57] <godbyk> We need to know the source of any material that was copied from elsewhere so we can check the license and give proper attribution.
[05:11] <humphreybc> right
[05:11] <humphreybc> who's here at the moment?
[05:20] <godbyk> looks like it's just us.
[05:28] <humphreybc> hrm
[05:31] <humphreybc> i will be hanging out here more often from now on
[05:37] <godbyk> You miss us, doncha? :)
[05:53] <nisshh> humphreybc: leaving to go on my next holiday today
[05:53] <humphreybc> so that's where everyone is!
[05:53] <humphreybc> on holiday!
[06:01] <nisshh> hehe
[06:01] <nisshh> ill be gone for ages
[06:01] <nisshh> a week and a half
[06:07] <humphreybc> an
[06:07] <humphreybc> man*
[06:07] <humphreybc> oh well
[06:07] <humphreybc> you'll have to work extra hard when you come back
[06:07] <nisshh> lol
[06:07] <humphreybc> when do you get back?
[06:07] <nisshh> yea, that script is mostly done
[06:07] <nisshh> next sunday
[06:07] <humphreybc> ok
[06:07] <nisshh> not this one
[06:07] <humphreybc> is that the bzr script?
[06:08] <nisshh> yes
[06:08] <humphreybc> neat
[06:08] <humphreybc> so what does it do?
[06:08] <nisshh> it works but isnt very informative yet
[06:08] <humphreybc> just stick in a tonne of echo statements
[06:08] <nisshh> yea
[06:08] <humphreybc> what does it do?
[06:08] <nisshh> well, first it installs bzr
[06:09] <humphreybc> kay
[06:09] <nisshh> then asks for your name and email
[06:09] <nisshh> and uses them with bzr whoami
[06:09] <humphreybc> yup
[06:09] <nisshh> then it does: bzr launchpad-login <username>
[06:10] <nisshh> and then downloads the branch from lp
[06:10] <humphreybc> nice
[06:10] <humphreybc> SSH keys?
[06:10] <nisshh> yea, i have no idea how im going to check for an ssh key
[06:10] <nisshh> using bash anyway
[06:10] <humphreybc> lol
[06:11] <nisshh> godbyk will know
[06:11] <humphreybc> probably
[06:11] <nisshh> the all-knowing godbyk
[06:11] <humphreybc> all knowing godbyk
[06:11] <humphreybc> hahahaha
[06:11] <godbyk> :)
[06:11] <nisshh> hehe
[06:11] <godbyk> what are you wanting to do?
[06:11] <nisshh> godbyk: is there a way to check if a user has an ssh key using the terminal?
[06:11] <nisshh> or in a bash script
[06:12] <godbyk> most likely.
[06:12] <godbyk> what kind of key?
[06:12] <nisshh> ssh key
[06:12] <nisshh> humphreybc: how are we going to know if they have it uploaded to lp?
[06:12] <humphreybc> nisshh: upload it for them?
[06:13] <nisshh> maybe
[06:13] <godbyk> nisshh: well, you can check the default location and filename: ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[06:13] <humphreybc> the user model is that they've never used lp/bzr before
[06:13] <godbyk> in bash it'd be:
[06:13] <nisshh> humphreybc: true
[06:13] <godbyk> if [ -f ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub ]; then echo "Key exists!"; else echo "Key is missing!"; fi
[06:13] <humphreybc> you might have to change it to python when you get back and then write it so it sets everything up
[06:14] <godbyk> I'm not sure if gpg is aware of that key, or not.
[06:14] <godbyk> running gpg --list-keys doesn't turn up that key.
[06:14] <godbyk> on my box
[06:14] <humphreybc> we can have our setup script/program create a key and upload it?
[06:14] <nisshh> yea
[06:14] <humphreybc> i wonder if launchpad has an API for registering a new account
[06:14] <nisshh> humphreybc yes i can create an ssh key in the script
[06:14] <humphreybc> something to pester thumper about
[06:14] <humphreybc> :P
[06:15] <nisshh> meh
[06:15] <humphreybc> focus is on doing everything for them :P
[06:16] <nisshh> yea
[06:17] <humphreybc> but don't worry about it now, enjoy your holiday
[06:17] <nisshh> humphreybc: launchpadlib doesnt have the ability to register new accounts i dont think
[06:18] <nisshh> lol
[06:18] <nisshh> going freediving
[06:18] <nisshh> ALOT
[06:18] <humphreybc> is that just jumping off cliffs?
[06:18] <nisshh> humphreybc: you NZ people are insane
[06:19] <humphreybc> what's freediving?
[06:19] <humphreybc> jumping off cliffs into water, right?
[06:19] <nisshh> without a compressed air tank
[06:19] <humphreybc> oh
[06:19] <nisshh> just normal snorkelling
[06:19] <nisshh> lol
[06:19] <humphreybc> so just swimming and holding your breath
[06:19] <nisshh> no
[06:19] <nisshh> with a snorkell
[06:19] <humphreybc> you're lucky the water's warm
[06:19] <humphreybc> i did snorkelling in fiji, wasnice
[06:20] <nisshh> nice!
[06:20] <nisshh> yea i spear fish too
[06:20] <humphreybc> neat
[06:20] <humphreybc> kill dem fish
[06:20] <nisshh> meh, die fishies!
[06:21] <humphreybc> how has the branch got 10mb bigger in the last 5 days
[06:22] <godbyk> humphreybc: because bzr never forgets. :-(
[06:22] <godbyk> at least from what I understand.
[06:22] <godbyk> so it will only get bigger over time.
[06:22] <godbyk> unless there's some way to flush stuff.
[06:22]  * godbyk knows nothing about bzr.
[06:23]  * nisshh knows enough to get him by
[06:24] <nisshh> i still cant beleive my computer refuses to boot from my SATA drive!
[06:24] <nisshh> unbelievable!
[06:27] <nisshh> humphreybc: your not going to show everyone what you have been working on with the mugshots till i get back are you?
[06:28] <nisshh> coz that would be mean!
[06:43] <humphreybc> lol
[06:43] <humphreybc> probably not
[06:43] <humphreybc> it isn't finished yet
[06:43] <humphreybc> anyway
[06:43] <humphreybc> work
[06:43] <humphreybc> g2g
[09:52] <ubuntujenkins> morning all
[09:55] <thorwil> morning!
[09:58] <donri> Morning everyone but one of you all!
[11:03] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk: are you there?
[11:28] <vish> heads up guys! screenshots involving folders would need an update , folder colors have changed !
[11:28] <ubuntujenkins> vish: what!
[11:28]  * ubuntujenkins AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
[11:28] <vish> before people start swearing , it was granted a UIFe
[11:28] <vish> ;)
[11:29]  * ubuntujenkins we have been conoicaled again
[11:29]  * vish tickles humphreybc 
[11:30] <ubuntujenkins> are they in lucid yet vish,I don't see a difference
[11:31] <vish> ubuntujenkins: just now it was uploaded  , humanity-icon-theme (0.5.1.9) will be the one
[11:33] <ubuntujenkins> thanks vish I think i may do all those screenshots my self
[11:36] <ubuntujenkins> vish: have you got a freeze exceptions link please
[11:37] <vish> ubuntujenkins: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mono/+bug/556024
[11:37] <manualbot> Launchpad bug 556024 in ubuntu-mono "freeze exception for humanity-icon-theme in lucid" [High,New]
[11:37] <ubuntujenkins> thanks vish just want soemthing to link to in my bug report
[11:37]  * vish suspects we would be doing a few more changes as well
[11:38] <ubuntujenkins> this is the third time we have had a problem
[11:40] <ubuntujenkins> vish which e-mail do the freeze exceptions get anounched on?
[11:41]  * ubuntujenkins obviously isn't subscribed to enough mailing lists
[11:42] <vish> ubuntujenkins: dont know , i just saw the upload in > http://feeds.ubuntu-nl.org/LucidChanges?format=xml
[11:43] <ubuntujenkins> ok thanks vish
[11:44] <vish> np... it was actually done a week ago , but wasnt sure it would be granted UIFe
[11:45] <ubuntujenkins> any idea how much has changed?
[12:00] <thorwil> guess there's need for a clever image-part search-and-replace :/
[12:03] <ubuntujenkins> thorwil: we have a script that replaces the window buttons already so i expect thats the way to go with this as well
[12:04] <ubuntujenkins> it just depends on the changes, different langauges may have the folders in different orders
[13:49] <humphreybc> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/doc-collaboration
[13:50] <humphreybc> i *think* i figured it out
[13:50] <humphreybc> oh wait
[13:50] <humphreybc> wrong channel :P
[14:56]  * ubuntujenkins all the screenshots are only 26% done
[17:08]  * ubuntujenkins trying to understand code that you haven't been part of writing is hard
[19:24] <ubuntujenkins> Red_HamsterX: ping
[19:30] <ubuntujenkins> evening channel how are we all feeling?
[19:49] <thorwil> 25% turquoise with a shot of leftward reification
[19:49] <ubuntujenkins> lol, always random thorwil
[20:59] <ubuntujenkins> we should have project cloaks for irc
[21:12]  * ubuntujenkins must be the only person here tonight
[21:18]  * dutchie is in a Belgian hotel
[21:18] <ubuntujenkins> hello dutchie o/ how was rowing?
[21:18] <dutchie> not hard
[21:18] <dutchie> yet
[21:19] <dutchie> we're going to the belgian national regatta tomorrow and sunday
[21:19] <ubuntujenkins> good luck
[21:20] <dutchie> cheers
[22:08] <Red_HamsterX> Hi, ubuntujenkins.
[22:08] <ubuntujenkins> hello Red_HamsterX how do?
[22:09] <Red_HamsterX> Still busy with the seeking of jobs. Also the development of 3D modelling techniques.
[22:09] <ubuntujenkins> mice, I pinged you to say they have changed the icons in lucid today
[22:09] <ubuntujenkins> *nice
[22:10] <Red_HamsterX> This seems somehow bad.
[22:10] <Red_HamsterX> Which icons?
[22:10] <Red_HamsterX> The button order or the artwork?
[22:10] <ubuntujenkins> as far as i can tell all they have done is made them a darker orange. so i was thinking of ignoring it. Its the folders
[22:10] <ubuntujenkins> art work
[22:12] <ubuntujenkins> Red_HamsterX: http://imagebin.org/92405 is an after
[22:12] <ubuntujenkins> picture
[22:12] <Red_HamsterX> Was the nm-WiFi icon always Apple-like?
[22:13] <Red_HamsterX> Or was it sideways before?
[22:13] <ubuntujenkins> before http://imagebin.org/92406
[22:13] <ubuntujenkins> wifi has been like that for a while
[22:14] <Red_HamsterX> I don't think it makes much of a difference. The shapes and positions are identical.
[22:14] <Red_HamsterX> As is the gradient.
[22:15] <ubuntujenkins> that was my thought I just wanted a second opinion. you wouldn't notice if your screen was set up to a different brightness etc
[22:16] <Red_HamsterX> Well, you would, but it couldn't possibly confuse anyone.
[22:16] <Red_HamsterX> We should probably overwrite the en screencap, though.
[22:16] <Red_HamsterX> And any screencaps taken in other languages, if we're working in them anyway.
[22:17] <Red_HamsterX> But I can't see it being a condition for rejecting an image.
[22:17] <ubuntujenkins> yea that can be done, we have 26% of the images done.
[22:17] <ubuntujenkins> can we make it so that we can get an archive before a language is finished?
[22:17] <Red_HamsterX> Yep.
[22:18] <Red_HamsterX> get_files.php?language=??
[22:18] <Red_HamsterX> Just go there and it'll build an archive.
[22:18] <Red_HamsterX> It'll appear in data/ so you can download it without making the server rebuild anything.
[22:19] <ubuntujenkins> legend that saves allot of clicking
[22:19] <Red_HamsterX> http://screenshots.ubuntu-manual.org/get_files.php?language=fr -> http://screenshots.ubuntu-manual.org/data/fr.zip
[22:19] <Red_HamsterX> It's a dumb script, though. It'll replace the archive every time that page is accessed.
[22:19] <Red_HamsterX> Which shouldn't be a problem.
[22:20] <Red_HamsterX> If there are no files to archive, it does nothing.
[22:21] <Red_HamsterX> I'll be active in here again next week.
[22:21] <ubuntujenkins> nope thats fine. the button script works btw. we need to make it replace the default search engine
[22:21] <Red_HamsterX> I'm just taking this week off to job-hunt and learn.
[22:21] <ubuntujenkins> you haven't missed much tbh
[22:21] <ubuntujenkins> thats cool
[22:21] <Red_HamsterX> I've been lurking.
[22:21] <ubuntujenkins> i have found a project to fill the time http://blogs.sun.com/erwann/entry/zfs_on_the_desktop_zfs i would like it working in backintime for gnome
[22:22] <ubuntujenkins> the etherpad is looking full we should have a meeting next weekend sometime
[22:22] <Red_HamsterX> Probably a good idea.
[22:22] <ubuntujenkins> what utc time suits you?
[22:23] <Red_HamsterX> I'm in North America, without any real commitments to anything else, so I'm pretty open.
[22:23] <Red_HamsterX> UTC-6
[22:24] <Red_HamsterX> That seems like an interesting project.
[22:24] <ubuntujenkins> ok so utc evening might be good as titeuf is utc +1 and he works. I am utc +1 as the uk is on daylight saving
[22:24] <Red_HamsterX> As a means of luring some Apple users, I mean.
[22:25] <ubuntujenkins> if i get anywhere with it is another matter. Well i orignaly found a project that was dead. then found out about the mac thing.
[22:26] <ubuntujenkins> they have the backup system right though all the linux ui are rubbish
[22:26] <ubuntujenkins> timevault was the project i found
[22:27] <Red_HamsterX> Nothing will make me change from having a local VCS server for my backup needs.
[22:27] <Red_HamsterX> But, then, most of what I do wouldn't benefit from binary backups anyway.
[22:29] <ubuntujenkins> I don't have the joys of a server unfortunaley. I would like one but have no real use for it so there is no point.
[22:32] <godbyk> I'm back. ubuntujenkins, you needed me?
[22:33] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk: nothing important, I was going to ask how to set up files so that i can give people a link like ben does. I have apache but thats as far as i got
[22:34] <ubuntujenkins> i guessed you would know
[22:34] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: once you've installed apache, you have two more basic steps: 1. configure your router to port forward port 80 to the PC with apache on it; and 2. sign up for a (free) account at dyndns.org to get a name to point to your computer.
[22:35] <ubuntujenkins> o thats rather easy. I may not be able to do it when at uni as i have no control over the router.
[22:36] <ubuntujenkins> thanks kevin
[22:36] <godbyk> you only need to worry about the router if it's blocking port 80 (firewall) or you have an internal (non-Internet-routable) IP addrewss.
[22:37] <godbyk> If your PC at uni gives you a real IP, you can ignore the router step.
[22:37] <ubuntujenkins> i will have to find out i go back in a week, where do i save the files for people to view?
[22:38] <godbyk> Usually the default location for apache is something like /var/www/, but it varies from distro to distro.
[22:39] <godbyk> You can also configure apache to look for a WWW/ dir in each user's home directory.
[22:39] <godbyk> then you can host those as http://www.example.com/~ubuntujenkins/
[22:39] <ubuntujenkins> that would be a good idea, i will have a play
[22:40] <ubuntujenkins> on a unrealted topic Red_HamsterX or godbyk any idea how i download this http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/jds/time-slider/
[22:40] <ubuntujenkins> its like a bzr repo
[22:41] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk: i was thinking of having a quickshot meeting next weekend what utc time suits you best?
[22:41] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: I'll look at it in a sec. installing updates now and my computer is grinding away on something. dragging the whole system. down.
[22:41] <ubuntujenkins> kk
[22:41] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: I'm pretty much free whenever. my timezone is utf-5 right now, though (due to DST)
[22:42] <ubuntujenkins> ok so far utc evening appears to make sense
[22:43] <godbyk> sounds good to me.
[22:47] <ubuntujenkins> this is funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
[22:48] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: this maybe, http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/p5i/0/SUNWgnome-time-slider.p5i
[22:52] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk: that does apear to be the open solaris deb equivilent. any idea how would i get the source directory that i linked to?
[22:55] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: http://blogs.sun.com/erwann/ scroll all the way to the bottom and read 'where is the source?'.
[22:55] <godbyk> links to an hg repository.
[22:55] <godbyk> there are also some screencasts of time-slider on his blog there.
[22:56] <ubuntujenkins> thats were i got it from, but how do i get a hg repo?
[22:57] <godbyk> I'm not sure, I don't use hg much.
[22:58] <godbyk> maybe just "hg clone URL"?
[22:58] <godbyk> I'd find an hg tutorial and see.
[22:58] <ubuntujenkins> ok thanks godbyk , i will have a look in the morning
[22:58] <ubuntujenkins> night all
[22:58] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: g'night.
[23:37] <JuanMarquez> hi
[23:38] <godbyk> Hello, JuanMarquez.
[23:39] <JuanMarquez> the ubuntu manual is avaliable in spanish righ now?
[23:39] <godbyk> JuanMarquez: It's currently being translated.
[23:40] <godbyk> You can track the progress of the translations here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual
[23:40] <godbyk> And look at the translations in the manual here: http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/
[23:40] <JuanMarquez> godbyk, wuoo, thank
[23:41] <godbyk> JuanMarquez: Feel free to help out with the translations, too. :)
[23:42] <JuanMarquez> i see
[23:42] <JuanMarquez> see you, thank
[23:43] <JuanMarquez> bye
[23:43] <godbyk> JuanMarquez: See you later.