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micahgchrisccoulson: any chance you can upload edbrowse?00:34
BUGabundom0rning09:10
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chrisccoulsonasac - ok, xulrunner is good to go. i can tag that for release when you are ready10:26
asacchrisccoulson: i am ready ... i trust you ;)11:24
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, i will tag that now11:24
chrisccoulsonthanks11:24
chrisccoulsonare you ok to do an ubufox upload today?11:24
asacchrisccoulson: we can surely do a rc2 today ;)11:25
asaci didnt fix one issue11:25
asacbut that has to come monday ;)11:25
asacthe "get ubuntu extension" link is missing in addons dialog11:25
chrisccoulsonasac - excellent, thanks. i think rick is quite keen to switch search providers before the weekend11:25
asacchrisccoulson: sure. that will be done11:25
asacchrisccoulson: did you try if the lockPref thing helps?11:27
asaci remember we also had another location added, but i think just that should be ok11:27
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, that's tagged now. i'm uploading the tarball to http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson but that may take another 5 minutes or so11:27
chrisccoulsoni've not tried the lockPref patch yet, i was going to do a build this morning and test that11:28
asacchrisccoulson: the tarball is a new one?11:28
asacok11:28
asacgive it to me ... or is that in some ppa already?11:28
chrisccoulsonyeah, it's for the 3.6.3 release11:28
asacchrisccoulson: oh11:29
asacchrisccoulson: we usually add - see USN-XXX too11:29
chrisccoulsoni'll have a look to see if it's in a PPA, but my connection is now going super slow, as i'm using all my uplink ;)11:29
asace.g. basically the same heading you have in stable updates11:29
asac+'the packaging changes11:29
chrisccoulsonah, ok. i'm not sure that i did that for the FF upload :-/11:29
chrisccoulsoni did it for all the stable updates though11:30
asacwell. next time. this thing you can uncommit ;)11:30
asacassuming you did the release commit in the last few minutes11:30
asacchrisccoulson: wanna do that still?11:31
chrisccoulsondo we have a USN for that already? i don't think i've got one11:31
asacok upload seems to be still going11:31
asacchrisccoulson: you dont? didnt we update xul in stable releases?11:31
asachmm11:31
asacchrisccoulson: you are right ;)11:31
asac1.9.2 isnt tracked yet11:31
asacsorry for the noise ;)11:31
chrisccoulsonheh, that's ok :)11:32
asacist just that often we release to dev release what goes to unstable. there we add the USN11:32
asac;)11:32
asacso next upload would have that11:32
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'll remember that11:32
asacassuming it goes everywhere11:32
chrisccoulsoni probably would have forgotten that anyway11:32
chrisccoulsonso, i'll make sure i do that next time11:32
asacchrisccoulson: did you check the gre-version etc. in the source tarball?11:33
asace.g. if its a real tagged checkout?11:33
chrisccoulsonasac - is that defined in config/milestone.txt? (that says 1.9.2.3 in there)11:36
chrisccoulsoni did the checkout myself anyway...11:36
asacyes11:36
asacright11:36
asacchrisccoulson: you didnt use mozclient?11:36
asace.g. ./debian/rules get-orig-source DEBIAN_TAG ... ?11:37
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's how i did it11:37
asackk11:37
chrisccoulsoncool, the tarball is copied across now11:37
asacchrisccoulson: upload finished?11:37
asackk11:37
chrisccoulsoni need a faster uplink :)11:37
asacchrisccoulson: have a signature?11:37
* asac paranoia ;)11:38
chrisccoulsonasac - the changes file has that in doesn't it?11:39
asacchrisccoulson: it has that if you upload .dsc etc.11:40
chrisccoulsonasac - the md5sum in the changes file is fe5d931b486569208ed400970cc796ab11:40
asackk i think thats good enough11:41
asacnot saying that this is a good channel to exchange such things ;)11:41
chrisccoulsonexcellent, xchat just crashed11:42
asacsure the md5sum comes from you?11:43
asacor are you still you?11:43
asac;)11:43
asacchrisccoulson: do you have your signed changes ;)?11:43
asacnevermind11:43
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, i uploaded the whole source package there now (including the signed changes)11:45
asacchrisccoulson: did you drop the search code from firefox yet?11:57
asacor did i do that already=?11:57
asacdebian/firefox.js11:57
chrisccoulsonasac - i've done that in bzr already (dropped the yahoo code and added the google ones)11:57
chrisccoulsoni just need to upload that today too11:58
asaclet me see11:58
asacchrisccoulson: what about the ie, params?11:59
chrisccoulsondo we have to keep those? i updated it to match the URL's we were sent12:00
asacnot sure12:00
asacthey probably are there for a reason ;)12:00
chrisccoulsonasac - "Optional. The ie parameter sets the character encoding scheme that should be used to interpret the query string. The default ie value is latin1."12:02
chrisccoulson(from http://www.google.com/cse/docs/resultsxml.html)12:02
asacchrisccoulson: i think we should keep iutf-8 then12:03
asacby default12:03
chrisccoulsonok, i can do that12:04
asacxul is slowly uploading12:10
asacmy uplink is in  bad mood today ;) ... guess needs a reset of modem or so12:10
chrisccoulsonwhat speed uplink do you have?12:11
chrisccoulsoni've added the character encoding parameters back to the search URL in bzr now12:11
chrisccoulsoni'm going to do a test build of firefox shortly, and then will get that uploaded too once i've checked everything is working12:12
chrisccoulsonasac - can you recreate bug 557640?12:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 557640 in firefox "[Lucid Beta2] nrf-003 testcase failed Default "Welcome to Ubuntu" page doesn't appear without connectivity" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55764012:16
chrisccoulsoni just tried it but it works fine here12:16
asacchrisccoulson: i think we dont have networkmanager integration12:17
asacthat makes folks not seeing the offline page12:17
asacswitch to offline and go to home12:17
asactp see what they want12:17
asaci think we had networkmanager enabled in the past12:18
asactoolkit.networkmanager.disable12:18
chrisccoulsonyeah, i just tried that. but i also tried opening firefox with my network off, and i saw the page i expected too12:18
asacalso our offline page mechanism doesnt send a real ping to the world12:18
asacanymore12:18
asacso we rely on offline12:18
asacchrisccoulson: it might hav been in cache12:18
asaccheck the offline page12:18
chrisccoulsonheh12:18
asacso you see its a different one (most likely)12:19
chrisccoulsonyeah, that might be it ;)12:19
asachttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9.2/1.9.2.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu112:19
chrisccoulsonone second, will try that again12:19
chrisccoulsonasac - thanks12:19
chrisccoulsonasac - is it enough just to change the value of toolkit.networkmanager.disable to false, or does it need something else to fix?12:24
chrisccoulson(i could recreate it with a fresh profile btw, so it was just cached) ;)12:24
chrisccoulsoni tried changing the value here, and firefox seems to correctly switch to offline mode when i disable the network12:25
asacchrisccoulson: i think we had that in firefox.js at some point12:27
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, i can add that back then if you think it's reasonably safe12:27
chrisccoulson(its not in firefox.js any more)12:27
BUGabundosee you all on Sunday!!12:31
BUGabundobye12:31
asacgood bye BUGabundo12:31
BUGabundoTRYYYYPPPPPPPPPPPINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGG12:31
BUGabundo:)12:31
* asac lunch13:03
rippsfta2: youtube html5 is working now, did you fix the build system?13:08
fta2ripps, yep13:08
fta2but i'm not sure my 1st tweak is required. the 2nd sure is but i want to try without the 1st one13:09
rippsthanks for keeping with it, now I can switch back to using chromium13:09
fta2ripps, if i give you a deb with just the 2nd fix, are you willing to try it?13:11
rippsfta2: what do mean? seperate package with no sse2?13:12
LLStarkswait13:26
LLStarkshtml5 video on youtube now works with the fox?13:27
rippsLLStarks: no chromium13:27
LLStarksoah13:27
rippsthose with cpus that didn't have sse2 crashed13:28
LLStarksi see lorentz beta came out today, is there a ppa of it?13:28
LLStarksthat's odd13:28
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, the network manager integration is not working that reliably anyway. when you turn off the networking, the browser goes in to offline mode, but browser.offline is not updated13:30
chrisccoulsonso, it still tries to load the online home-page :(13:30
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, the network manager integration is not working that reliably anyway. when you turn off the networking, the browser goes in to offline mode, but browser.offline is not updated13:31
chrisccoulsonso, it still tries to load the online home-page :(13:31
chrisccoulson(i hope i didn't send that twice. i think i tried to send it whilst i still had no network)13:32
asacwhat a pity13:34
asacbug :(13:34
LLStarksasac, any luck on getting bug 438868 elevated to papercut?13:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 438868 in firefox "Address bar autocomplete and search bar autocomplete doesn't always work after emerging from a screensaver or suspend" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43886813:35
chrisccoulsoni'm not sure that's a firefox issue13:35
chrisccoulsonmy gf keeps bugging me about that too13:35
fta2ripps, no. i have two workarounds: 1/ no ssse3/rint and 2/ no sse2. in the ppa, you now have both, but i think only the 2nd one is needed, so either i try without the 1st one, or i keep both13:44
rippsfta2: go ahead, I'll tell you if I get a crash13:45
fta2ripps, pushed to the ppa, give it some time to build.  thanks13:52
fta2i need to run now13:52
rippsfta2: is this for just the codecs or for the browser as well?13:53
ripps...13:53
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, it doesn't look like that's meant to work like we expect anyway (browser.offline is only set in browser/base/content/browser.js when toggling the checkbox in the menu)13:57
chrisccoulsonso, we could probably fix that in ubufox if i can figure out a more reliable way of checking the network status13:58
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, i fixed it in ubufox :)14:11
asacchrisccoulson: what diff?14:14
chrisccoulsonasac - http://paste.ubuntu.com/411608/14:15
asacgood14:15
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, i'll get that pushed to bzr in a second14:15
asacchrisccoulson: err14:17
asacchrisccoulson: i committed it to upstream branch14:17
asacasac@tinya:~/Development/upstream/asac/ubufox.main$ bzr commit -m "* fix online/offline detection by using nsIIOService rather than browser.offline pref14:17
asac>   - thx to Chris Coulson <chrisccoulson@ubuntu.com> for the patch"14:18
asacCommitting to: bzr+ssh://asac@bazaar.launchpad.net/~asac/ubufox/main/14:18
asacmodified components/aboutHome.js14:18
asacCommitted revision 211.14:18
asacplease test lp:ubufox if all is fine14:18
asacwant to do the rc2 release14:18
chrisccoulsonasac - thanks14:18
chrisccoulsoni'll pull it again and re-test it14:18
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, that's looking good14:22
asacchrisccoulson: uploaded etc.14:32
chrisccoulsonasac - excellent, thanks14:32
asac  Uploading ubufox_0.9~rc2-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.14:33
asacSuccessfully uploaded packages.14:33
ftaripps, the 32bit codecs are ready14:58
LLStarksfta, asac, are there any lorentz builds? i know the tarball is up, but i'd like to test how it interacts on a system level.15:01
LLStarksalso, more fundamentally, is lorentz pegged for lucid or lucid-updates?15:02
asacLLStarks: -updates from what we see now15:03
LLStarksgotcha15:04
asacjdstrand: can you bin NEW desktop-webmail ;)15:19
asac?15:19
jdstrandasac: done15:30
asacGREAT ;)15:30
jdstrandasac: is that to be launched from firefox (and therefore needs an apparmor profile addition?)15:31
asacjdstrand: no ... other apps run that15:31
jdstrandk15:31
asacjdstrand: this opens the browser15:31
asacwith a special url15:31
asacso the other way around15:31
jdstrandah, I see15:31
jdstrandcool15:31
micahgchrisccoulson: is it safe for me to bump the changelog to 3.6.4 for firefox to fix the dailies now?16:03
chrisccoulsonmicahg - it is now16:03
chrisccoulsoneerrrr16:03
chrisccoulsonactually, do we think there will be any more uploads before 3.6.3?16:03
chrisccoulsonsorry, i meant 3.6.416:04
chrisccoulsond'oh16:04
chrisccoulsoni haven't got anything else that needs doing, but i'm not sure if anybody else hs16:04
micahgchrisccoulson: idk, but I think maybe we could branch .lucid if we need too16:04
micahgcan we fix startup notifications on the next release?16:04
micahgI mean after release, teh patch is landed in 3.6.416:04
micahgbug 46975216:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 469752 in firefox "firefox,3.5/3.6 startup-notification bug" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46975216:05
chrisccoulsonyeah, it might be a good time. i don't have any more release targetted bugs for firefox (except for the startup notification bug, but i will wait for 3.6.4 for that)16:05
chrisccoulsonso, i don't have any plans to do another 3.6.3 upload16:05
micahgchrisccoulson: asac wants to get early adoption of 3.6.4 anyways, so we'll be pushing to security PPA next week when it hits the beta channels16:06
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's fine16:06
micahgchrisccoulson: it contains OOPP for 3.6 branch16:06
chrisccoulsonexcellent :)16:07
chrisccoulsoni wonder how much will break? ;)16:07
chrisccoulsonthat's going to need some serious testing effort16:08
micahgchrisccoulson: yes, but luckily, since we have in source xul, there should be less problems for firefox, but potentially more for the other xul based apps :-/16:09
micahgchrisccoulson: upstream's working to fix the remaining xul issues with OOPP before release though16:09
micahgchrisccoulson: if you have a minute, can you upload edbrowse :)16:10
chrisccoulsonmicahg - yeah, sorry, i forgot about edbrowse16:18
chrisccoulsonok, i'm just grabbing a drink and then i will do that16:19
micahgchrisccoulson: no worries, I'd just like to get a little testing from the users before final freeze :)16:19
chrisccoulsonyeah, that would be good ;)16:19
chrisccoulsonalthough, being a universe app there is still some scope for uploading at the start of the freeze (not that i would encourage that anyway)16:20
chrisccoulsonbut, it's easier to get stuff approved in universe rather than main16:20
chrisccoulsoni'll get that done in a few minutes anyway16:20
asacbug 54266216:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 542662 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] x-loader for omap needs to be packaged to build beagleboard images" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54266216:39
micahgasac: do you have time to package pyxpcom?16:43
asacno ;)16:50
asaci dont hav etime by definition :)16:50
asacfeel free to package it ... but be sure that its maintainable across major version upgrades16:51
micahgasac: fun, well, I guess we'll see just how many things I can do this weekend :)16:51
asacmicahg: dont do that for lucid16:51
asacits too late16:51
asacnothing goes in that wasnt planned yet16:51
micahgasac: some apps need python-xpcom16:51
micahgasac: which was dropped from xul191 and xul19216:52
micahgasac: virtualbox specifically16:52
asacwhere is the virtualbox bug?16:52
asacimo it should be possible to ship tha twithout pyxpcom16:53
asaceverything that uses pyxpcom now needs to get removed imo16:53
micahgasac: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/480407/comments/516:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 480407 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] pyxpcom" [Wishlist,New]16:53
asacvirtualbox is still in archive ;)16:53
micahgasac: oh, maybe the user was mistaken then...16:55
* micahg doesn't see anything that needs it16:55
micahgand I still need to chat with upstream about it, so I'm going to de-milestone it then16:56
asacthanks16:56
asacif virtual box needs it, server team should escalate that bug16:56
micahgI'll add a note in my comment too that if there's anything critical relying on it, to speak up now16:57
micahgchrisccoulson: that's why you couldn't see my sponsor bugs ;)17:01
chrisccoulsonmicahg - we don't get notified of them anyway ;)17:01
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cwillu_at_workwhen building firefox via "apt-get source; ...; fakeroot debian/rules binary", is it sufficient to just dump a patch into debian/patches + append the patch name into debian/patches/series + fakeroot debian/rules binary?17:28
cwillu_at_workor do I need to touch something to ensure that the patch is applied?17:29
* cwillu_at_work starts bouncing17:46
* cwillu_at_work heads off, but will read the scrollback18:04
asaccwillu_at_work: we use quilt18:34
asaccwillu_at_work: you dump patch in patches18:34
asacand add it to debian/patches/series18:34
asacthen build18:34
ftaripps, did you try the last build?18:56
rippsfta: yep, worked perfectly :)18:56
rippsAlthough, I'm not going to keep up2date with the daily ppa, I'm going back to dev ppa.18:56
ftaripps, sure, you can use -dev or lucid (same as -beta)18:58
ftai will update the codecs everywhere18:58
rippsgreat18:58
ftaripps, so you said -extra ~ucd3 is fine for you now, right?18:59
rippsfta: yes19:00
rippsI think it actually looks better than google-chrome's html5. Their's was more grainy/pixelated19:01
* ripps watches some muppets youtube videos19:06
micahgasac: please check response on bug 480407 and let me know if it needs to be done, I'll fit it in somehow if yes19:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 480407 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] pyxpcom" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48040719:09
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ftaweird, liferea is no longer auto-updating my feeds, i have to manually ask for updates20:12
ftakenvandine, ^^20:12
kenvandineno idea, i haven't used liferea in years20:12
kenvandinerecent upload?20:13
ftanot sure, started a few days ago20:15
ftawhy do we have an old acroread in the partner repo??20:19
fta9.1.0-7jaunty2 in lucid :(20:19
ftaupstream ships 9.3.220:19
micahgfta: partner forgot?20:20
ftano update in a year20:21
micahgfta: there are probably 2 dozen CVEs for it20:21
ftaindeed20:22
ftai wonder who should update that20:45
ftajdstrand, ^^20:50
jdstrandI don't have the status on that, but I'll poke someone about it21:27
jdstrandwait21:28
jdstrandI show:21:28
jdstrandhardy: 9.3.1-1hardy2, Pocket: release, Component: partner21:28
jdstrandintrepid: 9.3.1-1intrepid1, Pocket: release, Component: partner21:28
jdstrandjaunty: 9.3.1-1jaunty1, Pocket: release, Component: partner21:28
jdstrandkarmic: 9.3.1-1karmic1, Pocket: release, Component: partner21:28
micahgchrisccoulson: did we not push the 3.0.19/3.5.9 updates?21:28
jdstrandoh, lucid21:28
jdstrandyeah, partner doesn't get updated for the devel release until (or very near) the actual release21:28
[reed]jdstrand: that seems like a great way to pwn devs with access to push packages to tons of users21:36
[reed]compromised packages full of backdoors21:36
micahg[reed]: +1 :)21:36
jdstrandI didn't make the policy! :)21:37
jdstrandwe've discussed it several times21:37
jdstrandpeople can install the one in the latest stable and it should work21:37
chrisccoulsonmicahg - all the updates are pushed and in the ums ppa21:39
jdstrandand by 'we' I mean our team has suggested that the partner maintainers do it. my understanding is that the upstreams (in this case adobe) doesn't want it in there, since it may be broken21:41
micahgchrisccoulson: so any reason not to move to stable/security?21:41
jdstrandI might be wrong on that. filing a bug against acroread will get the most accurate answer21:41
jdstrandmicahg, chrisccoulson: I am working on them as we speak21:41
micahgjdstrand: ok, great, thanks21:42
chrisccoulsonbah, i just locked Xorg21:43
jdstrandfyi, nss and 3.5 are getting published within minutes. ff3 will be a little longer21:44
fta  acroread | 9.1.0-7jaunty2 | http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ lucid/partner Packages21:49
ftawhat am i missing??21:49
fta$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/partner.list21:50
ftadeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner21:50
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, excellent, thanks21:50
ftaoh, there's no lucid version of 9.3.1 :(21:52
jdstrandyeah, just get the karmic one21:53
ftait's bad, lucid has the old one, plenty of CVEs21:54
cwilluasac, I got that far, but will a debian/rules binary take apply the new patch, or do I have to clean first?23:07
ddecator(since this is related to nightingale): i'm using a rules file that pulls source using bzr. i have "bzr checkout [branch] [dir]" setup. the dir is defined as '$(TMP)/nightingale' which automatically puts '/tmp-#####/nightingale' but bzr only recognizes 'tmp-#####/nightingale' so is there i way i can have $(TMP) not include the first '/'?23:08
asaccwillu: clean is easiest23:22
cwilluasac, a build takes 4 hours23:22
cwillu(building for arm)23:23
asacgo in build-tree/mozilla23:23
asacln -s ../../debian/patches23:23
asacquilt push23:23
asac(to apply new patch)23:23
asacthen23:23
asacmake23:23
asaccd ../..23:23
asacdebuild -nc23:23
asacto finish incremental packaging23:23
* cwillu huggles asac23:23
asacassuming you appended it to series ;)23:23
asac(not prepended)23:23
cwilluwhich I did23:23
cwilluokay, I'll give that a shot tonight (left work early after firing off that build)23:24
cwilluincidently, if the patches in question cause a dramatic improvement in performance on arm like the bugs in questions claim they do, is there any chance they would be pulled in, at least for the arm port?23:25
asaccwillu: would need to see the patches23:25
cwilluof course23:25
asaccwillu: any idea about our frame issue?23:25
cwilluframe issue?23:26
asacbug 44314723:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443147 in firefox "Firefox on ARM inappropriately adds scroll bars to many frames and images" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44314723:26
* cwillu scrolls up23:26
asacdo you see that too?23:26
cwilluhaven't seen it myself, although I've only looked at a very few number of pages23:27
cwillusec, let me read the bug23:27
asacright. open gmaps23:27
asacits always there for us23:27
asacgoogle maps that is23:27
asacsee the screenshot there23:27
cwilluI'll check it tonight, I don't have any boards here23:27
cwillumy data point might be interesting though, as I'm running at high resolutions (1024x768, 1280x1024), probably uncommon for arm I'd imagine23:28
asacwell. i see it over ssh even ;=)23:29
asacso not related to xserver23:29
cwilluit's still using the local pixman and such though, and arm's resolution is generally set at boot time, not by xorg23:30
cwilludo you see it in qemu-arm?23:30
cwilluasac, don't suppose anybody's figured out the exact repo case?23:31
cwilluI could check against my source to see if I _should_ see it23:32
asaccwillu: good question. i havent checked in qemu23:45
asacmight be worth a try23:45
cwilluI'll be able to check that tonight too :p23:45
asacif you have a qemu running with lucid etc.23:45
asaccool23:45
cwilluoh, is this lucid only?23:45
asacnot sure23:46
asaci dont think so23:46
cwilluokay, I can check both easily enough23:46
asacbut lucid is where we saw it as thats where we shipped 3.623:46
cwilluoh, is this 3.6 only? :p23:46
asacnot sure23:46
asac3.6 and above i would think ;)23:46
asacbut really not sure either. thats why i want more data ;)23:46
cwillubut not 3.5?23:47
asaci dont think we saw it there23:47
asac3.6 is better for arm anyway23:47
asacexcept those frames ;23:47
asac)23:47
cwillummm23:47
cwilluwhat in particular is 3.6 better for in that way?23:48
cwilluI've got a hacked up pixman that I've been using23:48
cwilluand none of the arm performance bugs I've been following have patches commited23:48
asaccwillu: performance wise its better for arm23:49
cwillucan you be more specific?23:49
asacalso its armv7 + thumb2 ready23:50
asac;)23:50
asacalso 3.5 is kind of EOL23:50
cwilluthe _only_ thing that matters for arm performance in my opinion is the memory bandwidth usage23:50
asacwell. upstream said they did most arm work on 3.6 ;)23:50
cwilluwell, upstream is full of crap :p23:50
asacand since we moved there we didnt bother much about 3.523:50
asacwe had some javascript tests ... those were definitly better23:51
cwilluheh23:51
asacbut we also changed other things like moving away from xulrunner23:51
cwillusee, these things don't matter in my experience :)23:51
asacso cant say that improvmeents i due to that or the arm improvements or whatever ;)23:51
cwilluI get 5 frames per second scrolling a page consisting of a single element23:51
asacwhat spec has your board?23:52
cwilluomap 3530's iirc23:52
cwillubeagles and overos23:52
asackk23:52
cwilluthere's enough there to push 60fps to the screen23:52
asacdo you have proper accell?23:53
asace.g. drivers etc.?23:53
cwilludefine proper acceleration :)23:53
asacguess the free drivers in the archive?23:53
asac;)23:53
cwilluI'm running the latest and greatest neon code for graphics, yes23:53
cwilluthe issues are memory bandwidth23:53
cwillumoving to 16bits internally is supposed to help dramatically, which is what I'm testing now23:54
cwilluneon pixman helps significantly, but still not enough for things to be smooth23:54
maxbWhat is the outlook for enigmail at this point? Is it likely to make it into lucid?23:55
asacmaxb: likely atm23:55
asaclet me check something ;)23:55
asacare the ppa builders empty?23:57
* asac cecks http://launchpad.net/builders23:58
asacok seem busy ;)23:58
asacrebuild test :(23:58
asacok going for pbuilder to check this build-depends out23:58

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