[00:00] <Pici> AK : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[00:00] <danand> sheeps10: Take a look in /var/log/messages for anything network related
[00:00] <Fishscene> Awesome. Thanks for your help mdg.
[00:00] <julikoko> pls whats the latest ubuntu apart from karmic 9.10?
[00:01] <mdg> Fishscene, your welcome and good luck
[00:01] <nss> hello
[00:01] <Pici> julikoko: 9.10 is the latest released version of Ubuntu.
[00:01] <danand> sheeps10: You could also try uninstalling the kernel package you installed as a last resort - the system should then revert to the last one you were using
[00:01] <nintnint> Hi everyone.
[00:02] <Sia-> julikoko, the next LTs is Lucid and for more infos join #ubuntu+1
[00:02] <mdg>  I'm looking for a weather app kind of like what Docky uses - any ideas?
[00:02] <markrian> LinuxGuy2009: thanks, that tells me the capabilities. But the news isn't what I wanted to hear :(
[00:02] <Sia-> mdg, that is docky?
[00:03] <LinuxGuy2009> markrian: drives are extremely cheap.
[00:03] <mdg> Sia-, http://wiki.go-docky.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[00:03] <mhh> unix
[00:03] <markrian> LinuxGuy2009: Absolutely
[00:03] <markrian> adios
[00:03] <mdg> Fishscene, let me know how that works for you
[00:03] <emes> can anyone give me a suggestion for a PCI 802.11n card with good native support?
[00:03] <Sia-> mdg, and what you want?
[00:03] <Fishscene> Will do.
[00:04] <mdg> Sia-, I'm looking for a standalone weather application that can show weather like Docky does
[00:04] <nintnint> Anybody use the M$ ergonomic keyboard 4k or 7k?
[00:04] <mhh> server /unixirc.org
[00:04] <mdg> Sia-, from weatherunderground info
[00:05] <Sia-> mdg, aha, srry i'm using minimal X on my linux machine in ubuntu is compiz available you can use it
[00:06] <mdg> Sia-, this was for an older computer with low ram/processor
[00:06] <latrine> turd
[00:07] <Trek> !language | latrine
[00:07] <bowser> hi all, in CCSM in Lucid, how can I "present all windows"?
[00:07] <Pici> bowser : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[00:08] <Trek> !lucid | bowser
[00:08] <st__> âûôâôûôûâôû
[00:08] <st__> dasdas
[00:08] <bowser> Pici but it is probably same as in Karmic, right?
[00:09] <draginxx> So I just aired my fans out and now my USB mouse wont work. Any idea why?
[00:09] <Pici> bowser: I don't know.
[00:09] <mdg> draginxx, dead batteries?
[00:09] <knoppies> draginxx, I assume you checked that its still plugged in properly? You might want to inspect the cable and see if it has any sharp twists/bends in it.
[00:09] <draginxx> mdg, its plugin usb
[00:09] <dabitpulla> !usb | browser
[00:09] <sheeps10> danand: when I removed linux-image-2.6.31-21 I get a large number of error messages starting with the "postrm hook", specifically: "error: cannot open `/dev/sdb' while attempting to get disk size" and then lower down:"The link /vmlinuz is a damaged link\nRemoving symbolic link /vmlinuz\n you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]
[00:10] <draginxx> knoppies, none whatsoever
[00:10] <draginxx> it works on another laptop
[00:10] <sheeps10> danand: and the same with /initrd.img
[00:10] <mdg> draginxx, lsusb in a terminal and see if it is seen
[00:10] <knoppies> draginxx, hmm, I would try restarting the PC, and if that doesnt help, then use lsusb.
[00:11] <bowser> wouldn't you somebody know how to present all windows in compiz (like exposé on mac)
[00:11] <mdg> draginxx, also try another USB plug on the computer
[00:11] <st__> sheeps10: had you removed your only kernel?
[00:11] <knoppies> bowser, I do, I forget the name of it but give me a sec and I will find it.
[00:11] <LinuxGuy2009>  bowser: Look on google and read about compiz plugins
[00:11] <draginxx> Bus 003 Device 008: ID 046d:c404 Logitech, Inc. TrackMan Wheel
[00:11] <sheeps10> st__: no, there's still linux-image-2.6.31-20
[00:12] <knoppies> bowser, the plugin is called "scale"
[00:12] <mdg> draginxx, okay, so just unplug, wait a second or two and plug back in
[00:12] <draginxx> mdg, thats whart lsusb gives me, and i did that
[00:12] <sheeps10> st__ and there is also thhe memtest86+ image
[00:12] <knoppies> bowser, you find it?
[00:12] <mdg> draginxx, the computer sees it
[00:12] <bowser> knoppies, looking for it
[00:13] <mdg> draginxx, have you logged out and back in?
[00:13] <knoppies> bowser, it should be near the bottom, near the "application switcher" and "Ring switcher"
[00:13] <TGP1994> Hi there everyone, I'm looking for a live access monitor for apache2, does anyone have a solution for that?
[00:13] <TGP1994> I'm trying to debug a fastdl application for source games...
[00:13] <draginxx> hmm havent logged out
[00:13] <draginxx> ill retry thanks
[00:14] <TGP1994> So can anyone help me?
[00:14] <sistemas> hola
[00:14] <TGP1994> Hi.
[00:14] <mdg> TGP1994, its all new to me - can I ask a question?
[00:15] <TGP1994> Ok?
[00:15] <Pici> TGP1994: What do you mean? You want to see who/what is acessing your apache server?
[00:15] <bowser> knoppies, thank you! it is called scale however
[00:15] <TGP1994> Pretty much, and if possible, what they're accessing, and at what speed.
[00:15] <knoppies> bowser, thats what I said, isnt it?
[00:15] <mdg> TGP1994, in essence you want something that monitors game players in a game right?
[00:15] <TGP1994> Well, not quite... see, I want them to download maps from my linux box here, but I'm having a little trouble there.
[00:16] <knoppies> bowser, anytime. Glad I could help.
[00:16] <mathieu__> Good evening. Is there any possibility for an NVIDIA display adapter to change the mode of its TV-OUT signal?
[00:16] <Pici> TGP1994: Well, just doing a tailf of /var/log/apache2/access.log would be a good start
[00:16] <LinuxGuy2009> bowser: You werent trying to get all windows shown on the screen together and choose the one you want?
[00:16] <TGP1994> Alright, I'll try that for abit, thanks.
[00:16] <bastid_raZor> bowser: there is a #compiz channel
[00:16] <knoppies> LinuxGuy2009, I thought he was trying that.
[00:16] <mathieu__> I can't find anything relevant in X Server Settings which point me in any direction.
[00:17] <bowser> LinuxGuy2009  that wouldn't do it when they overlap, the scale plugin can do that
[00:17] <mathieu__> Except on the Display tab its Mode Name is 'nvidia-auto-select'
[00:17] <knoppies> bowser, the downside to using the scale plugin, is that if a window is minimized, its not shown.
[00:18] <TGP1994> So Pici, is tailf supposed to notify me when that file is changed?
[00:18] <hanasaki> how can I get the sound volumen control back on the gnome panel?  its gone
[00:18] <knoppies> hanasaki, right click on the panel, choose add to panel, and look for it in the list.
[00:18] <Pici> TGP1994: it'll scroll when the file is updated.
[00:18] <LinuxGuy2009> bowser: scale plugin just allows compiz to allow you to resize windows.
[00:18] <knoppies> LinuxGuy2009, not on my setup.
[00:18] <TGP1994> Hmm... I just accessed my website, but nothing happened in the terminal running tailf.
[00:19] <Pici> TGP1994: Try tail -F instead then
[00:19] <knoppies> LinuxGuy2009, it is a window picker for me.
[00:19] <TGP1994> tailf -F?
[00:19] <Pici> TGP1994: tail -F /var/log/apache2/access.log
[00:19] <hanasaki> knoppies:  I don't see it... what is the specific name?
[00:19] <TGP1994> ok
[00:20] <bowser> knoppies, I see
[00:20] <LinuxGuy2009> Oh thats right. Thats what I was trying to think of. Uhh.......yeah ;-)
[00:20] <bowser> LinuxGuy2009 and you can assign screen corner/shortcut to present them
[00:20] <mdg> hanasaki, Menu, Preferences , Sound is what was on the panel
[00:20] <knoppies> hanasaki, Im still using 9.04, but on mine its called "Volume Control" if you type vol in the search bar it should appear.
[00:20] <TGP1994> Ermm... that's weird... apache isn't writing anything to the access.log file.
[00:21] <LinuxGuy2009> bowser: Yeah
[00:21] <sheeps10> hi, I upgraded the kernel image package this morning on my other pc, and now networking is broken/misbehaving, is there a file somewhere that I can delete to try and revert to defaults?
[00:21] <TGP1994> @Pici: Could I possibly have misconfigured apache?
[00:21] <knoppies> TGP1994, I would then look at your apache settings, and see if it is being logged, and what log its writing to.
[00:21] <bastid_raZor> !panels | hanasaki if all else fails you can reset the panels.
[00:21] <mdg> hanasaki, you can right click on the panel, add Application and navigate to Sound Preferences
[00:21] <TGP1994> @Pici: Any settings file in particular?
[00:21] <hanasaki> mdg:  knoppies right... I need the volumen applet not the configuration in the preferences
[00:21] <katycorp> I have a question on dual booting Ubuntu and windows 7. If I want to create a shared partition, what's the best (most stable) format to use? fat32, NTFS?
[00:22] <st__> katycorp: obviously ntfs
[00:22] <knoppies> katycorp, Im no guru at this, but I would go with ntfs.
[00:22] <bastid_raZor> katycorp: i would suggest ntfs
[00:22] <MikeH_> Hi guys, I'm using Ubuntu netbook edition, I've enabled GDM with update-rc.d gdm defaults 30, it started on the next boot, but hasn't started since
[00:22] <FF666> fat32 is useless
[00:22] <MikeH_> any suggestions?
[00:22] <bowser> LinuxGuy2009 btw viewport=desktop?
[00:22] <mdg> hanasaki, oh.  Not sure if the sound icon you can add to the panel is the same app
[00:22] <hanasaki> mdg:  its not.. but launches it
[00:22] <katycorp> I had read some posts that it was more stable than NTFS in terms of ubuntu reading/writing to it
[00:23] <katycorp> but I guess it's since been resolved
[00:23] <hanasaki> bastid_raZor: hmmm tried gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel   still no sound control
[00:23] <TGP1994> @Pici: There only seems to be an option for this VHosts access log file.
[00:23] <ZykoticK9> hanasaki, did you by change try to remove Pulse from your system?
[00:23] <bowser> knoppies, does viewport simply mean desktop?
[00:23] <TGP1994> @Pici: Do you know where I can find the option for general access logging?
[00:23] <vcollett> hey
[00:23] <Pici> TGP1994: It should be enabled by default.
[00:23] <st__> is there a way to make ubuntu smaller? or I have to seek another distro?
[00:23] <Pici> TGP1994: Is Apache actually serving pages to you?
[00:24] <knoppies> bowser, I think so. It might be referring to if you have multiple display monitors attached.
[00:24] <hanasaki> ZykoticK9: no. but.. I am tempted to... CD sound sucks and skps through pulse
[00:24] <TGP1994> @Pici: Yes, I can access them.
[00:24] <mdg> Fishscene, any luck?
[00:24] <TGP1994> @Pici: Although I remember reading in the log (before I cleared it) that apache was segfaulting... if it does, could it somehow be cached where it serves the pages regardless if it's running or not?
[00:24] <ZykoticK9> hanasaki, ok i was just asking - as removing Pulse will remove the volume control from panel.  Good luck.
[00:25] <Pici> TGP1994: If this is a separate vhost, you may be getting entries in /var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log
[00:25] <Pici> TGP1994: I'm not sure what the criteria for the separation of logfiles is though.
[00:25] <bowser> knoppies, okey, I came from KDE, there's a lot of settings in compiz...
[00:25] <mathieu__> katycorp: I use both Ubuntu 9.10 and Windows 6.1 at the same system and accessing an NTFS partition for my documents without any problems on both operating systems.
[00:25] <TGP1994> Pici: Ya, nothing in there either.
[00:25] <TGP1994> Weird.
[00:25] <knoppies> bowser, yea I know. I love it. You could sit tweaking them for weeks.
[00:25] <mathieu__> of which that partition is formatted using default Windows settings
[00:26] <st__> mathieu__: except ubuntu screwing up file permissions?
[00:26] <mathieu__> st: not that I know of
[00:26] <alesan> hey
[00:26] <ZykoticK9> mathieu__, Windows 6.1 eh?  Haven't heard of that version before.  I'm assuming you mean Vista  :)
[00:26] <Fishscene> mdg: sorry took a while to download on the insanely slow and old computer. It's booting fromt he CD! :D
[00:26] <mathieu__> no. Windows 'Seven Ultimate'
[00:26] <alesan> how do I enable tcp connectoins with X? I need to remove the -nolisten tcp whwn gdm starts X
[00:26] <Fishscene> This computer is about 12 years old at least.
[00:26] <mdg> Fishscene, awesome!
[00:27] <alesan> it's so confusing, every Ubuntu version changes this
[00:27] <mdg> Fishscene, how old is your computerA?
[00:27] <bowser> knoppies, LOL that's why I'm trying Gnome, to not tweak for weaks .) so far the Lucid seems more polished nonetheless
[00:27] <mdg> computerA/computer
[00:27] <bowser> good night to all
[00:27] <mathieu__> see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7 - Windows 6.1.7600 actually ;)
[00:27] <LawG> Having issues with Karmic on an HP laptop. It is getting extremely hot, much hotter than when running windows 7 or XP. Any suggestions??
[00:28] <st__> is there a way to make ubuntu smaller? or I have to seek another distro?
[00:28] <vinnym3> run top in the console and see which process is using %%%
[00:28] <knoppies> LawG, does your HP laptop support CPU frequency scaling?
[00:28] <Pici> st__: smaller?
[00:29] <mathieu__> st__: uninstall stuff you don't need and it probably will free some disk space if that is what you mean
[00:29] <LawG> knoppies: I believe so
[00:29] <stercor> What's the package name for the apache web server, preferably with PHP?
[00:29] <Pici> st__: Start with the minimal CD and only add what you want?
[00:29] <Pici> !minimal
[00:29] <st__> in terms of disk size, I have just a base system + X + some basic stuff-- not even a gnome and it's 1.7GB
[00:29] <nintnint> Crunchbang 9.04 is based on ubuntu and is very lightweight.
[00:30] <SuperMiguel> is UCP staring to pick up?
[00:30] <mathieu__> and you care about using disk space ?
[00:30] <knoppies> LawG, I suggest you look at top (or htop) and see if something is causing it to use the higher frequency?
[00:30] <knoppies> LawG, on my setup, its xmms2d that does that, so I have to kill it if Im not using it.
[00:31] <LawG> knoppies: does that run off a normal install of Karmic? I'm on windows right now but I'll reboot and try that
[00:32] <knoppies> LawG, idk, I just installed 9.04 again, and had to install it myself.
[00:32] <knoppies> LawG, the GDM on my karmic seemed to crash when I was moving large files.
[00:33] <LawG> got ya
[00:33] <LawG> knoppies: thanks
[00:33] <knoppies> LawG, my pleasure.
[00:34] <st__> definitely I care
[00:35] <st__> is there some parts in base system which can be removed without scrificing functionality?
[00:35]  * fabio333 ping
[00:35] <DelphiWorld> hi dear all!
[00:35] <mathieu__> hmm... sorry I can't help you then except for using MS-DOS with Windows 3.1 (or something) but that is not even a decent alternative
[00:35] <DelphiWorld> any recomanded vm for ubuntu?
[00:36] <mathieu__> see above, minimal :)
[00:36] <fission6> hey, is it possible to get itunes running on ubuntu/wine?
[00:36] <knoppies> fission6, I dont know why you would want to use iTunes, in my opinion it is one of the worst (and slowest) media players around.
[00:37] <Yerzriknot> OK, I've got what might be a stupid question. If I install the 10.04 beta will it update eventually to the complete version?
[00:37] <DelphiWorld> knoppies: i use mplayer
[00:37] <st__> Yerzriknot: yes
[00:37] <fission6> it is, but how else can i get music and crap onto my iphone, i dont want it as a media player
[00:37] <mathieu__> I recently start using Ubuntu and its integrated Synaptic application manager is a bless... install and removal of applications (and its dependencies) is a piece of cake with that
[00:38] <Yerzriknot> So is it stable enough to install?
 the only way to get music on a ipod suffles was itune
 not yes i suppoe but i0m running it now withot problem
[00:38] <st__> Yerzriknot: yes... but you'll update each signle package eventually
[00:38] <fission6> so is there no hope to place / manage music on ubuntu/wine/
[00:38] <mdg> who was asking about minimal install?
[00:39] <knoppies> fission6, you could take a look at the Linux Alternative Project. I remember reading a report somewhere that (I think it was lucid) supported the iPod touch straight out of the box. fission6 All I can suggest is you google it, have a look on the ubuntu forums, and then give it a shot.
[00:39] <ziesemer_> I'm running xbuntu 9.10 on an old Dell Inspiron 7500.  The touchpad just stopped running after installing all the latest updates.  Any quick ideas?
[00:39] <Yerzriknot> Thanks guys
[00:39] <fission6> hmm ok
[00:39] <knoppies> ziesemer_, have you restarted since your updates?
[00:39] <st__> oh and btw are there alternatives for apt-get? it srives me crazy because it refuses to work if broken packages are present
[00:39] <ziesemer_> knoppies:  Yes.
[00:40] <mdg> ziesemer_, I have Dell Inspiron 8000 running Mint 8 and touchpad works great - I've heard about a lot of problems with 9.10 Ubuntu
[00:40] <DelphiWorld> any vm?
 synaptic
[00:40] <st__> fabio333: LOL synaptic is apt-get frontend
 you an handle broken pachages
[00:40] <knoppies> ziesemer_, then no. My touchpad has always worked.
[00:41] <st__> they don't need to be handled, they should be left in peace
[00:41] <st__> no need to throw a tantrum and abort because of them
[00:42] <mathieu__> !nvidia
[00:43] <mathieu__> one alternative: compile yourself from source
 i don't have any broken package
[00:43] <st__> (1) what can I throw away from base system and (2) which Ubuntu package manager works with broken packages?
[00:43] <themusicgod1> st__: aptitude is pretty tough usually imho
 deborphan for getting rid of libraries and stuff
[00:44] <Snadder> Ive installed ffmpeg.. And it says: Unknown encoder 'libx264'.. when I try to encode..
[00:44] <mathieu__> I don't know if there are any other alternatives for application trees who are one way or the other broken, sorry.
[00:44] <Snadder> Doesnt ffmpeg in ubuntu 9.10 have libx264 support?
 you need that library first
[00:45] <Snadder> fabio333, libx264-67 is already newest version.
[00:45] <Snadder> fabio333, ffmpeg -formats lists h264
[00:45] <vinnym3> join socom
[00:46] <fabio333> Snadder>: works for me
[00:46] <Snadder> fabio333, now I installed x264 too..
[00:46] <Snadder> fabio333, any more packages to install?
 try with avidemux or mencoder.... im using a newer version of libx264
[00:48] <Snadder> fabio333, in some forum threads they are saying I need to compile ffmpeg
[00:48] <Snadder> fabio333, my scripts works only with ffmpeg atm..
[00:48] <fabio333> ffmpeg -formats | grep x264
[00:48] <Guest24241> Hello, i'm going through a Linux tutorial in regards to runlevels.  I'm trying to look for /etc/inittab in Ubuntu 9.04, but can't seem to find it.  Does Ubuntu do this differently?
[00:48] <fabio333> if you have EV than it should work
[00:49] <natarajan> how to uninstall firefox in ubuntu
[00:49] <mdg> natarajan, Synaptic
[00:49] <fabio333> Snadder, EV    libx264         libx264 H.264 / AVC / MPEG-4 AVC / MPEG-4 part 10
[00:49] <Snadder> fabio333, I dont have that.
[00:49] <Snadder> fabio333, how did you get that?
[00:50] <fabio333> Snadder, i'm on lucid :)
[00:50] <fabio333> but maybe you need a different version
[00:50] <Snadder> DE h264            raw H.264 video format
[00:50] <Snadder>  D V D  h264            H.264 / AVC / MPEG-4 AVC / MPEG-4 part 10
[00:50] <israelito_solito> hello, for a couple of days now my external hard disk is not working. On Windows it takes sometime to mount but on Ubuntu it just doesnt
[00:50] <Trek> !paste | Snadder
[00:50] <fabio333> D stands for decodinng E for encoding, V video , etc
[00:51] <EdgEy> Hello, is there a way for me to check all files that are currently in use?
[00:51] <rsr> israelito_solito, you should probably bakup that drive since it is in an imminent fail
[00:51] <Snadder> fabio333, so which encoder option should I use then?
[00:51] <EdgEy> For example, show the music file I'm playing, + binaries running and so on
[00:51] <Snadder> like.. -vcodec libx264 am I using now.
[00:51] <fabio333> Snadder>: try with libxvid
[00:51] <fabio333> or mpeg4
[00:51] <israelito_solito> ok. thanks
[00:52] <mdg> anyone have any weatherunderground scripts to gather info?
[00:52] <Snadder> fabio333, unknown encoder.
[00:52] <rsr> EdgEy, do you mean system monitor?
[00:52] <EdgEy> rsr, that only shows running processes
[00:53] <fabio333> Snadder>: use  -vodec mpeg4
[00:53] <EdgEy> There is a terminal command that shows what files are currently in use I think
[00:53] <rsr> EdgEy, maybe ps aux on the terminal
[00:53] <mathieu__> Someone who has experience in forcing TV-OUT format for NVIDIA? In which section should I add this: Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"
[00:53] <rsr> now im not sure if it also shows only processes
[00:53] <EdgEy> rsr, nah i don't want the process list
[00:54] <laptop_> Hello, where can I find /etc/inittab in Ubuntu?  This Linux tutorial says it should exist, but I can't find it.
[00:54] <mathieu__> (in X server, from http://http.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8178/README/appendix-h.html)
[00:54] <EdgEy> rsr, think I might have found it anyway, 'lsof'
[00:54] <EdgEy> :)
[00:55] <rsr> nice
 /etc/init
[00:56] <Snadder> fabio333, now I get unknown audio encoder libfaac. And I have libfaac installed"!
[00:56] <mdg> laptop:  in a console type:  locate inittab
[00:56] <MikeH_> is there an onscreen keyboard built into ubuntu anywhere?
[00:56] <fabio333> Snadder>: this is not your lucky day
[00:57] <Snadder> fabio333, this is working on debian.
[00:57] <mdg> MikeH_, look in 'Assistive Technologies i.e.,menu, preferences and there is one there
[00:57] <thebruce> hey fellas what do you use for vnc/remote control on ubuntu?
[00:57] <Snadder> fabio333, got any audio encoder to use?
[00:57] <fabio333> try with libmp3lame
[00:57] <MikeH_> mdg: thats where I'm looking
[00:57] <rsr> thebruce, there is a built in application for that
[00:57] <MikeH_> but I don't see it?
[00:57] <thebruce> rsr
[00:57] <thebruce> yes i know
[00:57] <laptop_> locate inittab shows a listing for a man entry and one under /usr/lib .. highly doubt that's what i'm looking for
  /etc/init
[00:58] <rahduke> does anyone wanna help me or what? I've been in this room at least 20 times looking for help with the same problem and people just ignore me. I'm really getting fed up!!!
[00:58] <mdg> MikeH_, I can't think of the name of iat the moment - let me look in synaptic
[00:58] <darksider> does anyone know a thing or two about making a .deb installer? i have made a .deb to install my toolkit but it doesn't actually do anything...do i NEED to specify the stuff in postinst and prerm scripts? do i define in there where to copy my scripts to upon installation?
[00:58] <rahduke> im not asking some question that is rocket science im sure someone here knows the answer
[00:58] <rahduke> its total nonsense
[00:59] <mathieu__> Hmm... I should ditch my tree of stupidity. Appendix D contained the answer. Never mind.
[00:59] <fabio333> /etc/inittab is for old-timers : no more in ubuntu
[00:59] <darksider> rahduke, people aren't ignoring you- maybe nobody knows the answer?
[00:59] <darksider> or maybe nobody has the time to help
[00:59] <t_pol> hey there i would like to post binaries in the newsgroup could you give me the name of a software that can do that?
[00:59] <j3rg> yo
[00:59] <j3rg> wats up
[00:59] <rahduke> WHEN I MINIMIZE STUFF THE ANIMATION HAS it minimize to my top panel not my Docky Dock
[00:59] <darksider> all i know is that bitching about it isn't going to help you get helped
[00:59] <rahduke> does that make any sense to anyone?
[00:59] <mdg> MikeH_, its called gok
[00:59] <darksider> nope
[00:59] <fission6> so how are people managing their iphones content on ubuntu
[00:59] <laptop_> fabio333, how can I find out what runlevel ubuntu starts in, and how can I change that?  there must be a replacement for it
[00:59] <j3rg> anyone in here is a video camera junkie
[01:00] <j3rg> ?
[01:00] <rahduke> darksider: that doesnt make sense to u ?
[01:00] <MikeH_> mdg: is it there by default?
[01:00] <mdg> MikeH_, that is if you are using gnome
[01:00] <Kre10s> so I have a 14.7Mb NEF image that opens up as 160X120 in gimp... how is this possible? Fspot show much higher resolution
[01:00] <Snadder> fabio333, didnt work with libmp3lame
[01:00] <MikeH_> mdg: I believe so, I'm actually using Netbook edition
[01:00] <mdg> MikeH_, there is at the login window - not sure what that is
[01:00] <rahduke> darksider: I'm using the sidekick animation in compiz for minimization, for watever reason sometimes the animation looks as if its minimizing to my panel instead of my dock, its a ticky tack thing but its really effing annoying
[01:01] <aj00200> Can anyone recommend a graphical undelete tool?
 so use mp2
 use runlevel command in order to know what runlevel you are in
[01:01] <darksider> rahduke, sorry but i have a big problem myself with something more important to me
[01:01] <rsr> rahduke, google it
[01:01] <darksider> yeah, try google
[01:01] <rahduke> darksider: ill fix ur problem, what is it?
[01:02] <CloudLevi> So...I has a little problem. My CD drive's out, externals don't work, I just got done installing this from Windows through UltraISO, and now I need to repartition my hard drive considering I *THOUGHT* this would be a temporary install so I could get a permanent one up and running.
[01:02] <rahduke> rsr: google what
[01:02] <rsr> rahduke, nevermind
[01:02] <rahduke> how can google help me i can barely explain the problem
[01:02] <CloudLevi> Or I just need my optical drive working =/
[01:02] <Snadder> fabio333, that works.. but this wont be h264..
[01:02] <Snadder> I assume
[01:02] <darksider> rahduke, im trying to make a .deb installer to install my toolkit onto the comp of whoever wants to have my toolkit. but i cant get the .deb to do anything. it syas its installed but doesnt do anything
[01:02] <onats> hey guys, i upgraded my thunderbird to 3.0, now i lost all my emails. i think it overwrote some of the files coz i was running two versions at some time
[01:02] <rahduke> darksider: what kind of toolkit?
[01:03] <Snadder> fabio333,  Its working with SVN-r20602 (debian lenny multimedia.org mirror) but not SVN-r19352-4:0.5+svn20090706-2ubuntu2,
[01:03] <onats> is there a thunderbird/mozilla support channel?
[01:03] <Snadder> not working on ubuntu 9.10
[01:03] <rahduke> if you made a deb of a cli program u wont see it in your appliations or anything
[01:03] <mdg> MikeH_, there is gnome onscreen-keyboard you can activate via assistive devices
[01:03] <fabio333> Snadder>: you need the latest version like the one i'm using
[01:03] <darksider> rahduke, just a mixture of different scripts and apps i have made. currently just contains my backup and restoring system
[01:03] <CloudLevi> help? e-e
[01:03] <Snadder> fabio333, and how do I get that precompiled for ubuntu 9.10?
[01:03] <rahduke> darksider: how are you creating the .deb?
[01:04] <mdg> MikeH_, look in Assistive Technologies and choose preferred applications and then you can choose to enable Gnome on-screen keyboard
[01:04] <darksider> rahduke, with dpkg - can you help me?
[01:04] <darksider> using 'dpkg -b /source/tree output.deb'
[01:05] <mdg> MikeH_, make sure you toggle the "enable assistive techonologies"  box to have a checkmard
[01:05] <rahduke> darksider: sounds right to me....
[01:05] <mdg> MikeH_, then you need to lot out and back in
[01:05]  * CloudLevi facedesks.
[01:05] <rahduke> darksider: since i dont know what your packaging its tough to determine if i could help
[01:05] <MikeH_> mdg: I've done that, but under preferred applications, I only have visual and mobility
[01:05] <MikeH_> mobility is set to onboard and run at start
[01:05] <darksider> rahduke, do i NEED to specify postinst & prerm SCRIPTS to install my package, because i still can't run it after installing
[01:05] <fabio333> Snadder>: the version from medibuntu "is built with the "risky" option, to enable mp3/mp4/h264/amr support" ....
[01:06] <rahduke> darksider: if your packaging scripts you do
[01:06] <mdg> MikeH_, Under Mobility?
[01:06] <shox> hi
[01:06] <darksider> rahduke, where will the .deb install the contents of it to ?
[01:06] <MikeH_> mdg: yes
[01:06] <Snadder> fabio333, ok.. Ill try that
[01:06] <mdg> MikeH_, Accessibility Tab, under Mobility?
 not sure, that was on old version...
[01:07] <MikeH_> mdg: yep, set to onboard
[01:07] <maple1> I'm a talented musician as you can see from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf68vCaFYkE - is there an ubuntu solution for amp simulation that will give me that same rich tone?
[01:07] <rahduke> darksider: it depends on the paramaters, i've never deb packaged scripts, i don't know why you would
[01:07] <shox> hi someway to set enviroment variables for providers ?
[01:07] <maple1> guitar rig 4 btw
[01:07] <MikeH_> thats the only option, other than custom
[01:07] <mdg> MikeH_, I thought you wanted onscreen keyboard?
[01:07] <MikeH_> mdg: I do
[01:07] <rahduke> darksider: why not just tar the files and scripts you want to include and then put them whereever u want
[01:07] <CloudLevi> =-=
[01:07] <darksider> rahduke, how would you suggest i package my toolkit then?
[01:07] <darksider> rahduke, yeah..
[01:07] <adalal> anyone know of a touchscreen calibrating tool? since my touch now works out of hte box with lucid?
[01:07] <mdg> MikeH_, is this a really fresh install?  Have you updated?
[01:08] <Beyondinferno> anyone feel like helping me out with some samba issues?
[01:08] <darksider> rahduke, okay. thanks
[01:08] <darksider> i will try that maybe if i can't get .deb to work
[01:08] <MikeH_> mdg: Can't update until I get a working keyboard :/
[01:08] <shox> i need the i neet to set SUDO_FORCE_YES in apt provider
[01:08] <rahduke> darksider: the only way i know to deb packages installs the bins to usr/bin or usr/share/
[01:08] <MikeH_> mdg: touchscreen only :/
[01:08] <raul> is there the version of the game "cashflow 101" or "cashflow 202" for linux?
[01:08] <mdg> MikeH_, cool!  What kind of 'puter?
[01:08] <knoppies> raul, I would be interested to find out. Should I do some searching on it?
[01:08] <MikeH_> mdg: Its a Joggler
[01:09] <mdg> MikeH_, whats that?
[01:09] <mezimezim> does anyone know about GNUenterprise?
[01:09] <MikeH_> a 7" photoframe, atom based
[01:09] <Beyondinferno> Anyone know of a channel that i might be able to get some at?
[01:09] <raul> knoppies Please... I am also looking for it...
[01:09] <mdg> MikeH_, you built this?
[01:09] <mezimezim> is it a real, usable set of programs, or just a project?
[01:10] <Beyondinferno> anyone?
[01:10] <maple1> I'm a talented musician as you can see from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf68vCaFYkE - is there an ubuntu solution for amp simulation that will give me that same rich tone?
[01:10] <MikeH_> mdg: no, its available in the uk for £50 :P
[01:10] <Gnea> Beyondinferno: get some what?
[01:10] <ZykoticK9> raul, it appears to run under wine http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3130&iTestingId=25688
[01:10] <knoppies> maple1, I would be interested to find out.
[01:10] <mdg> MikeH_, can it use a bluetooth keyboard?
[01:10] <knoppies> raul, Ok, I will start looking.
[01:10] <Beyondinferno> help with samba... I've got some issues
[01:11] <CloudLevi> Roomba!!!
[01:11] <MikeH_> mdg: nope :/
[01:11] <raul> knoppies thanks
[01:11] <Gnea> !samba | Beyondinferno
[01:11] <mdg> MikeH_, bummer
[01:11] <MikeH_> I think my only option is to bite the bullet and buy a powered usb hub
[01:11] <Gnea> Beyondinferno: there's also #samba
[01:11] <Beyondinferno> awsome, thanks.
[01:11] <Kre10s> someone please look at this and tell me why gimp opens the imge in 160X120 http://imagebin.org/92281
[01:11] <mdg> MikeH_, so basically you have a stylus and are using menu entries right now?
[01:11] <CloudLevi> Ham and cheese =_= need help
[01:12] <CloudLevi> Faulty gellatin wiring makes supernova go critical...
[01:12] <Gnea> Kre10s: the 'NEF' image format?
[01:12] <MikeH_> mdg: kind of
[01:12] <Snadder> fabio333, I cant see latest ffmpeg in medibuntu
[01:12] <mathieu__> Which command should I invoke in tty1 to restart X (tty7) ?
[01:12] <maco> Gnea: nikon RAW
[01:12] <Kre10s> yes NEF
[01:13] <Kre10s> right
[01:13] <mdg> MikeH_, what else can this thing do?
[01:13] <Gnea> maco: I realize that
[01:13] <Snadder> fabio333, Well.. I dont know how to check for sure..
[01:13] <Snadder> fabio333, since its already in 9.10
[01:13] <mdg> MikeH_, how did you manage to get ubuntu on it?
[01:13] <SuperMiguel> when the kernel chashes the memory does it really make the system run faster? like will i see a speed improvement from 8gb to 16gb of ram??
[01:13] <Gnea> Kre10s: hrm, I've gone through the menus on a few nikons... isn't there a selection to change the image file format?
[01:13] <MikeH_> mdg:usb stick
[01:14] <MikeH_> mdg: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler
[01:14] <Snadder> How do I search for packags only in one repository?
[01:14] <fabio333> Snadder>: not sure but you can't stick with ffmpeg... use avidemux is a lot simpler
[01:14] <Snadder> fabio333, why cant I use ffmpeg?
[01:14] <mdg> I have a Nokia N770 tablet PC running a special linux
[01:14] <fabio333> Snadder> : it wont work for you
[01:14] <markl_> is there any way to bring back xscreensaver after it died without restarting my X session?
[01:15] <Snadder> fabio333, how can you say that?
[01:15] <Snadder> Why?
[01:15] <Gnea> Kre10s: just found this... are you famliar with ufraw?
[01:15] <MikeH_> mdg: I'm pretty much giving up on UNR now, People are starting to make android work
[01:15] <foxmulder881> Anyone in here use JDownloader?
[01:15] <Kre10s> I don't know what ufraw is...
[01:15] <fabio333> Snadder>: have a look at avidemux you will love it, the ffmpeg yu are using is compiled with mp3 and x264 disabled.
[01:15] <hoban> hello, can someone tell me what package is responsible for the plymouth splash? mine shows the kubuntu splash and while I have both ubuntu and kubuntu desktop installed, I'd like the ubuntu splash
[01:16] <mdg> MikeH_, have you tried android?
[01:16] <Gnea> Kre10s: http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/  basically, the image format that nikon uses doesn't automagically work with gimp
[01:16] <MikeH_> mdg: On a phone
[01:17] <mdg> MikeH_,  or this:http://talk.maemo.org/
[01:17] <Gnea> !info ufraw
[01:17] <Beyondinferno> whelp, both samba channels are dead (no one there)
[01:17] <CloudLevi> I'll have COMPLETELY forgotten my problem by the time someone GETS to me...
[01:17] <mdg> MikeH_, Android on a phone - you bet!
[01:17] <CloudLevi> Already started
[01:17] <Snadder> fabio333, can you give me a line which works to h264/mp3?
[01:17] <foxmulder881> ufraw is basically a tool that allows you to work with raw images from digital cams.
[01:17] <Gnea> Beyondinferno: they're not dead, you just have to wait and be patient. it can take minutes or hours sometimes.
[01:17] <Snadder> with avidemux
[01:18] <bigtom21485> i have acquired a second computer, how do i get it wifi drivers if i dont have access to the wireless router (say to plug in an ethernet cable)?
[01:18] <Beyondinferno> someone feel like helping a poor n00b
[01:18] <fabio333> Snadder>: avidemux is cool, no lime to mess with
[01:18] <CloudLevi> Gnea: What about this channel? =_=
[01:18] <MikeH_> mdg: I've used Maemo on the N900, and tried Mer on this device, but I really want android on it to be honest
[01:18] <sloopy> Beyondinferno, many people do...
[01:18] <Beyondinferno> :)
[01:18] <foxmulder881> Beyondinferno, what's your issues?
[01:18] <CloudLevi> Gnea: I reeeeally don't care to wait hours...
[01:18] <Beyondinferno> be prepared, this is my 2nd day with linux
[01:18] <AlienDK> Can I mount /root using "cd" in terminal?
[01:18] <mdg> MikeH_, Itried android on a desktop - it kept going to sleep
[01:18] <Beyondinferno> lol
[01:18] <ToStItOs> Status if you are here I have questions
[01:18] <Gnea> CloudLevi: didn't see your problem
[01:19] <doctorZeus> I've been running ubuntu 9.1 for a week or so now, and thinking about trying out xubuntu.  Does this channel support (not kde or gnome related) xubuntu questions?  I guess I'm trying to determine just how different the two are..I understand that there is also a #xubuntu channel
[01:19] <CloudLevi> Gnea: no one did ... e-e
[01:19] <SuperMiguel> when the kernel chashes the memory does it really make the system run faster? like will i see a speed improvement from 8gb to 16gb of ram??
[01:19] <foxmulder881> Beyondinferno, we all started somewhere. ;-)
[01:19] <Gnea> !ask | CloudLevi
[01:19] <Beyondinferno> i just got done switching my home server over to karmic and my main desktop aswell
[01:19] <fabio333> Snadder, http://blog.taragana.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/avidemux.jpg
[01:19] <Gnea> CloudLevi: see that part... "If anyone knows the answer..."
[01:19] <ToStItOs> Status:
[01:20] <foxmulder881> Well done Beyondinferno . That's something.
[01:20] <Beyondinferno> i'm trying to share about 1.5TB of media across the network to all ubuntu boxs
[01:20] <Gnea> CloudLevi: but feel free to ask again
[01:20] <mdg> MikeH_, http://code.google.com/p/live-android/
[01:20] <Snadder> fabio333, I need to do it by command line.
[01:20] <Gnea> Beyondinferno: how are you configuring samba?
[01:20] <mdg> MikeH_, you can try an android USB
[01:20] <knoppies> raul, Ive found some things with google, dont know if its promising, can I PM you?
[01:20] <sloopy> Beyondinferno, and the issue is?
[01:20] <Beyondinferno> I've got it setup using the gui and have the shares set as "share"
[01:21] <CloudLevi> Gnea: My CD/DVD drive is dead =/ Windows 7 was giving me Code 13 and Linux is reading -nothing- from it... then there's the little issue that I ran a Linux In Windows installation and now have only 3 gigs of HDD partition space because I expected it to be a temporary install in hopes that it would restore my optical drive. Externals don't work either...
[01:21] <MikeH_> mdg: its not that simple, this device uses EFI, and a 32bit framebuffer - people have it booting, just need to figure touchscreen and wifi support
[01:21] <fabio333> Snadder, http://avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Command_line_usage
[01:21] <Gnea> Beyondinferno: what is "the gui", exactly?
[01:21] <CloudLevi> ubottu: Yeah...I tried just asking. =/ no response
[01:21] <Beyondinferno> I can see the server on the network from the client but can't open the server
[01:21] <mdg> MikeH_, you say it has a USB port, only one?
[01:21] <foxmulder881> Beyondinferno, you mean it's not sharing even though you have sets the files to share?
[01:21] <raul> knoppies I'm sorry, but... what is PM?
[01:21] <Gnea> CloudLevi: so you have a hardware problem, not a software problem?
[01:21] <MikeH_> mdg: yes
[01:22] <knoppies> raul, /msg you
[01:22] <omegadarkest> ubuntu 9.10 vid card is a geforce 6800 xt. When i try to install the picture is all lines,  I tried xdriver=vesa but no luck any idea?
[01:22] <CloudLevi> Gnea: software...registry of all things
[01:22] <MikeH_> but that runs the usb stick, which is its primary drive
[01:22] <Beyondinferno> Gnea, the gui setting program (can't remmeber the name ATM)
[01:22] <Gnea> CloudLevi: Ubuntu doesn't have a registry, windows does.
[01:22] <sloopy> Beyondinferno, all the shares have unique names? you dont have several disks labeled 'share' ?
[01:22] <CloudLevi> Gnea: Code 13 means "configuration in the registry is corrupt or missing" =/ which is retarded
[01:22] <Beyondinferno> foxmulder: yes
[01:22] <mdg> MikeH_, wonder if you could use a USB hub so you can have a USB keyboard, but does it have a card slot....
[01:22] <Beyondinferno> sloopy: yeah they do
[01:22] <foxmulder881> Your server is obviously not allowing access for some reason.
[01:22] <Gnea> CloudLevi: let's back away from usage of the r-word, please?  how is this an Ubuntu issue?
[01:22] <raul> knoppies yes... please
[01:23] <MikeH_> mdg: yes, I can use a usb hub, but it needs to be powered one, and I don't have one :/
[01:23] <mdg> MikeH_, did it come with an operating system?
[01:23] <MikeH_> I'll need to buy one
[01:23] <foxmulder881> Beyondinferno, can you access the client boxes from your server?
[01:23] <Beyondinferno> 1 sec i'll check
[01:23] <MikeH_> mdg: Yes, it comes with its own linux based os with a flash based front end, it doesn't do much though
[01:23] <sloopy> Beyondinferno, each filesystem you share needs a different name
[01:23] <Gnea> Beyondinferno: I suggest installing and using SWAT to configure samba with, at some point
[01:24] <mdg> MikeH_, wow, that's kind of a pickel you are in.... let me think
[01:24] <Beyondinferno> sloopy, sorry i worded that poorly. They all have unique names
[01:24] <MikeH_> mdg: There is no way around it really, apart from getting a usb hub
[01:24] <Beyondinferno> from the server i can see everything fine
[01:25] <Beyondinferno> and access it as well
[01:25] <CloudLevi> Gnea: This brick computer was working fine until I got Win7...then I got the Release Candidate in 09 and my DVD functionality dropped. It picked up Oblivion and Shivering Isles some of the time, but after I downloaded the hardware manufacturer's driver and registry update when I upgraded to the Win7 retail, the optical drive completely BRICKED
[01:25] <MikeH_> mdg: If I can be bothered, I can pull it apart, unplug the usb wireless that is internal, plug the keyboard into that, then run a cat5 for network while i setup the onscreen keyboard
[01:25] <MikeH_> but I really can't be bothered now :P
[01:25] <MikeH_> I'm just going to buy a hub
[01:25] <Beyondinferno> i don't see the server at all in network just in windows network etc.
[01:25] <Beyondinferno> from the client
[01:25] <Gnea> CloudLevi: who built the computer in the first place?
[01:25] <foxmulder881> I wonder what you done that's different on the server as opposed to your clients?!?
[01:25] <CloudLevi> Gnea: In -and- out of Windows...and the wonderful thing wouldn't even take a USB external... now I'm having the same problem in Ubuntu...
[01:26] <Beyondinferno> lol good question!
[01:26] <CloudLevi> Gnea: Sony...VAIO model VGN-NR220E
[01:26] <foxmulder881> Beyondinferno, wtf is it doing in WIndows Network?
[01:26] <Gnea> CloudLevi: is it still under warranty?
[01:26] <bsmith093> when i joined just now i think a bot spammed me
[01:26] <CloudLevi> Gnea: '08
[01:26] <mdg> MikeH_, you would pull it apart?
[01:26] <CloudLevi> Gnea: so no...
[01:26] <Beyondinferno> is there an easy way to start from scratch with the samba settings?
[01:26] <MikeH_> mdg: I already have
[01:26] <hoban> hello, can someone tell me what package is responsible for the plymouth splash? mine shows the kubuntu splash and while I have both ubuntu and kubuntu desktop installed, I'd like the ubuntu splash
[01:26] <MikeH_> I had to to install UNR
[01:26] <nintnint> Advice: I try to install majesty, its a game. I go to the iso dir and do '. setup.sh' and get something that flashes tool not found then the terminal closes.
[01:27] <CloudLevi> Gnea: It was Vista native anyway, so the software warranty died when I went with the Win7 beta in early '09
[01:27] <foxmulder881> Beyondinferno, probably. But I'm no samba expert as my server runs WIndows.
[01:27] <Beyondinferno> i've been doing ALOT of trying and may have just totally mucked it up
[01:27] <Gnea> CloudLevi: well, if the CD/DVD drive won't bootup a LiveCD, then yeah, I'd say it's toast and you need to hit up ebay or pricwatch.com and get a new drive for it
[01:27] <CloudLevi> Gnea: like I said, even a USB optical drive won't take...
[01:27] <AlienDK> How do I access /root?
[01:27] <bsmith093> how do i set it up so my public key is added whenever people read an email i send them
[01:27] <Kre10s> Gnea: Thanks! its working now :D
[01:27] <foxmulder881> AlienDK, cd / as su
[01:28] <bsmith093> basically so i can get them to use encryption with as little hassle as possible
[01:28] <Beyondinferno> i was thinking it might be a port issue but port 139 is open on the server
[01:28] <Gnea> Kre10s: cheers
[01:28] <Beyondinferno> and it's lan ip is static
[01:28] <CloudLevi> AlienDK: Hehe...that one's fun. You boot up terminal, punch in "sudo passwd root", set a password, log in as root, and have fun.
[01:28] <Gnea> CloudLevi: what about a thumbdrive?
[01:28] <mdg> MikeH_, back at the Assistive technologies - your only option was onboard keyboard in the Preferred application> Accessibility Tab,Mobility section?
[01:28] <CloudLevi> AlienDK: I -just- got done having to do it myself. lol
[01:28] <bsmith093> cloudlevi is that really that east
[01:28] <foxmulder881> Beyondinferno, can you access it via //ipaddress/sharename in terminal?
[01:28] <bsmith093> easy to bypass the login
[01:28] <Gnea> CloudLevi: that's wrong. sudo -i  works just as well and doesn't create a security hole
[01:29] <distatica> I'm not crazy, this is a valid scp command, right? ahiscox@netbook:/var/lib/docdump$ scp docdump-0.1.1.tar.gz fnadmin@10.0.0.222
[01:29] <MikeH_> mdg: nothing said keyboard
[01:29] <CloudLevi> bsmith093: Yes. Easy, but it's horribly roundabout...
[01:29] <MikeH_> it was just an option called "onboard" under mobility
[01:29] <CloudLevi> Gnea: Security hole? e-e;
[01:29] <distatica> it just exits, 0 code, nothing copied.
[01:29] <distatica> ssh works.
[01:29] <Gnea> CloudLevi: just don't give out that sort of advice again in here, please.
[01:30] <mdg> MikeH_, what does your accessibility tab show for Visual and Mobility?
[01:30] <Beyondinferno> foxmulder881, nope....
[01:30] <Beyondinferno> cd //localip/Music not found
[01:30] <Myrtti> distatica: you haven't defined a path on where you want that to be saved
[01:30] <Gnea> !sudo | AlienDK
[01:31] <AK> Guys, anyone knows wot is the command to check
[01:31] <AK> linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r) from ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev
[01:31] <AlienDK> I know what sudo is :)
[01:31] <foxmulder881> It's obviously a samba issue or config setting somewhere. But like I said, I'm no samba expert.
[01:31] <AlienDK> basicly :P
[01:31] <Beyondinferno> well, hell....
[01:31] <distatica> Myrtti: *facepalm* of course. Thanks.
[01:31] <CloudLevi> AlienDK: 'till today I only knew of sudoKU
[01:31] <Gnea> CloudLevi: anyhow, if none of the USB ports work then maybe the motherboard is fried
[01:31] <Beyondinferno> thanks for the effort!
[01:31] <foxmulder881> Post on the UbuntuForums.org perhaps?!?
[01:31] <AlienDK> CloudLevi: Ok
[01:32] <nintnint> Advice: I try to install majesty, its a game. I go to the iso dir and do '. setup.sh' and get something that flashes tool not found then the terminal closes.[1;2C[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D
[01:32] <CloudLevi> AlienDK: ...you do know what sudoku is, right?
[01:32] <mdg> MikeH_, maybe you can log out and click the assistive technology icon on the login screen and see if anything happens
[01:32] <AlienDK> Yes
[01:32] <AlienDK> CloudLevi: Yes
[01:32] <magaio> Does transmission-bt have any other command-lin interface other than just starting/stopping torrents?
[01:32] <Beyondinferno> i'm hoping i can get it solved sooner than it would take for that :p
[01:32] <AlienDK> CloudLevi: The retarded number game
[01:32] <nintnint> Advice: I try to install majesty, its a game. I go to the iso dir and do '. setup.sh' and get something that flashes tool not found then the terminal closes.[1;2C[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D[1;2D
[01:32] <Gnea> !repeat | nintnint
[01:32] <foxmulder881> Beyondinferno, yeah true.
[01:33] <bsmith093> if i change the passphrase for my private key do i need to revopke my public key
[01:33] <nintnint> no, I was trying to copy what I said but finch is stupid.
[01:33] <CloudLevi> AlienDK: the "r" word isn't allowed here, apparently. =_=;;;
[01:33] <Gnea> nintnint: ah, sorry
[01:33] <AlienDK> CloudLevi: going off topic isn't either
[01:33] <CloudLevi> Gnea: they work. no idea how to install off a Flash, though.
[01:33] <Beyondinferno> one other thing, I noticed that even though I changed the server name the name in the network is unchanged...
[01:33] <CloudLevi> Gnea: outside the OS, that is...
[01:34] <Gnea> !usb | CloudLevi
[01:34] <Gnea> CloudLevi: ^_^
[01:34] <Beyondinferno> might be a clue to the real problem
[01:34] <Vigo> How do I set different wallpapers for each Workspace, like Workspace 1 (is a cow), Workspace 2 (is a duck) and so on?
[01:35] <CloudLevi> Gnea: thanks. Is there a !spine by any chance? lol
[01:35] <bsmith093> !spine
[01:35] <Gnea> CloudLevi: helps if there's a !vertebrae ;)
[01:35] <CloudLevi> Gnea: xDD
[01:36] <CloudLevi> how big a drive I need? Straight one gig work?
[01:36] <CloudLevi> erm...does an SD card and built in reader work by any chance? o_O
[01:36] <mdg> MikeH_, for $75 or so, that could be fun little gadget.  I hope you get something figured out
[01:36] <Gnea> if you can get the vaio's bios to see it as a boot device, yes
[01:36] <Beyondinferno> foxmulder881: I think it's client side. I can't even see my own shares from the client (shares based from the client)
[01:37] <Gnea> CloudLevi: most cd iso's are under 1gig, so yeah
[01:37] <CloudLevi> Gnea: *vomit* it's not there...I'd remember if it were... ;-; No SD card or MStick boot DXXX
[01:37] <mdg> MikeH_, sorry I couldn't be helpful.  Good luck!
[01:38] <Gnea> CloudLevi: on my netbook, it isn't there unless it's already plugged in when the system gets turned on
[01:38] <CloudLevi> Yaiyaiyai! Got it!!! *Holds up his 1GB DaneElec flash drive* =D
[01:38]  * Gnea facepalms at the thought of a pokemonster
[01:38] <CloudLevi> Gnea: Windows ReadyBoost =/ so it was in there 24/7... DX
[01:39] <CloudLevi> Gnea: o.o Pokemon? Where'd THAT come from? xD
[01:39] <foxmulder881> Beyondinferno, sorry I can't help you more as I have to go to work now. Send me an email mate. foxmulder881@gmail.com
[01:39] <Beyondinferno> Thanks a bunch!
[01:40] <Kre10s> prolly something like [2010-04-08 21:13] <DONNIE0984> list of my favorite pokemon: garchomp.....
[01:40] <Gnea> CloudLevi: nvm
[01:40] <nsh> apt-get keeps trying to install nautilus which i no longer want as it requires shittons of other packages,  but i can't convince it not to try anymore. it keeps complaining of unmet dependencies
[01:40] <CloudLevi> Gnea: lol loon
[01:40] <Gnea> o.O
[01:40] <nsh> how can you make it give up?
[01:40] <CloudLevi> Gnea: nothing xD
[01:40] <Gnea> old battery: 2 hours. new batter: 12.5 hours >:)
[01:40] <CloudLevi> Gnea: ?!?!
[01:40] <Kre10s> wow!
[01:41] <Gnea> yeah.
[01:41] <Gnea> eeepc ftw
[01:41] <aiakeng> 12.5h......good!
[01:41] <Gnea> it just finished charging. yeah, it's pretty sweet.
[01:42] <nsh> nm, sorted i think
[01:42] <mdg> hey MikeH_ , you said you didn't like UNR?  Its the same as regular ubuntu, except with a netbook launcher
[01:42] <dhanesh> how can i record live audio streams from internet
[01:42] <mdg> MikeH_, you can get the regular desktop
[01:43] <Gnea> !info streamripper
[01:43] <dhanesh>  mdg how can i record live audio streams from internet
[01:43] <mdg> dhanesh, ????
[01:44] <Gnea> dhanesh: streamtuner provides a gui to it
[01:44] <Freeaqingme> vlc can do it as well
[01:44] <aiakeng> Do you want to test the batter between win7 and ubuntu ?
[01:44]  * Gnea doesn't run win7
[01:44] <Gnea> only Ubuntu, Elive and XP
[01:45] <CloudLevi> Gnea: do you have Chrome per chance? DX
[01:45] <CloudLevi> Gnea: I stupidly left Ubuntu in my default Downloads folder for Chrome =_=;
[01:46] <Gnea> CloudLevi: why would I use that?
[01:46] <CloudLevi> Gnea: Because it's a lightweight browser and some people think it rules?
[01:46] <bsmith093> how do i export my public key
[01:46] <Gnea> CloudLevi: heh, I don't care much about what other people think
[01:46] <aiakeng> I think ubuntu good at  energy control .
[01:47] <Gnea> !pgp | bsmith093
[01:47] <CloudLevi> Gnea: >.> I meant that to suggest my assumption that perhaps you were of the same opinion...
[01:47] <dhanesh> how can i record internet live audio streams
[01:47] <Gnea> dhanesh: I already told you what programs can do it
[01:48] <dhanesh> gnea that program is not working
[01:48] <aj00200> dhanesh: did you install it properly?
[01:48] <Gnea> dhanesh: then you need to learn how to use it
[01:48] <Vigo> bsmith093: Bring up the Passwords and Encryption Keys, should be there.
[01:48] <bsmith093> yes but that says its my private key
[01:49] <bsmith093> i would like to backup my public key
[01:49] <Vigo> bsmith093: I use a USB for that, I also use some backup programs
[01:49] <alokito> how to recover a deleted file in ext4?
[01:49] <dhanesh> gnea i have selected one stream an click on tune it . the player has dissappeared
[01:49] <bsmith093> what specifically so i need to do to backup my keys
[01:50] <CloudLevi> Gnea: well you've been lots of help. I am now forced to return to windows to locate that blasted folder...
[01:50] <Gnea> dhanesh: it helps to choose a stream that's actually up
[01:50] <Gnea> CloudLevi: which folder?
[01:50] <dhanesh> what do you mean gnea
[01:51] <Gnea> if the stream is offline, it might crash
[01:52] <sirninja> Is there a way to make ubuntu automatically scale the cpu to powersave when it is running off battery power?
[01:52] <andre__> hey
[01:52] <Vigo> bsmih093: Here>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1202524&highlight=pgp+keys
[01:53] <__ka__> In 8.04, is there a way to get around the plugdev usergroup requirement for pmount? I'm using Hardy as an NIS client, and none of the clients can use their USB flash drives right now
[01:56] <bailebob> Hello..I am a newbie to Ubuntu..I recently upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and no longer have sound
[01:57] <bailebob> I tried various things to correct but I have not been able to fix it so far
[01:57] <UFRN_Andre>  #ubuntu-br
[02:00] <trelane> ok this is odd, I just upgraded to 10.4 beta and the window decorations (close maximize minimize) are now on the left instead of the right, this is highly disconcerting and I think I'm losing my mind. How do I fix it?
[02:00] <bigtom21485> good evening everyone
[02:01] <bailebob> good evening
[02:02] <bigtom21485> i have acquired a second laptop, one without drivers, i installed ubuntu from my livecd, but i dont have access to the wifi router (say via ethernet)...how do i use my existing machine that is already set up to get the drivers for the second computer?
[02:02] <bigtom21485> i mean i can copy it via my external hdd
[02:03] <crashdata> hi
[02:03] <storrgie> I am using 9.10 server, would like an up to date KVM install anyone know of any good PPAs?
[02:03] <crashdata> i installed netbook remix on my msi u135 netbook...i cant seem to get the wireless to work
[02:03] <crashdata> i've installed wicd already
[02:03] <dhanesh> how can i record online radio streams
[02:03] <crashdata> but still no go
[02:03] <maco> storrgie: for a new kernel?
[02:04] <maco> storrgie: the kernel team has a testing ppa...
[02:04] <storrgie> maco: no, the version of qemu-kvm and libvirt and virt-manager is REALLY far behind
[02:04] <crashdata> someone please point  me to the right direction
[02:05] <abstrakt> how can i query a file of a package to see which package installed it?
[02:05] <abstrakt> i want to remember which package i used to install python mod_wsgi
[02:06] <crashdata> hello how do i get my wireless to work on my netbook
[02:07] <mc_> abstrakt dpkg -S <filename>
[02:07] <bigtom21485> crashdata have you tried doing system-->administration-->update manager?
[02:08] <crashdata> bigtom21485, yes
[02:08] <ziesemer_> Xbuntu 9.10 on a Dell Inspiron 7500.  After installing the latest updates, the touchpad (Synaptics?) is no longer working.  dmesg|grep mouse shows:  input: Macintosh mouse button emulation as /devices/virtual/input/input3 .  It's not a mac!
[02:08] <bigtom21485> crashdata: how about system-->administration-->hardware drivers
[02:08] <ziesemer_> Other than the updates, it is a clean install.
[02:08] <crashdata> bigtom21485, i'll try that one
[02:09] <patrik> Hi
[02:09] <crashdata> no driver updates
[02:10] <crashdata> bigtom21485,  i check update manager again to there were new updates available
[02:10] <crashdata> i'll try this forst hopefully this will solve the problem
[02:10] <Guest76571> I need help installing a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG card on Ubuntu 8.04.
[02:10] <bigtom21485> crashdata: good ol' linux :-)
[02:10] <bigtom21485> crashdata: i abandoned windows and ill never go back ;-)
[02:10] <sirninja> What are some ways to improve battery life in ubuntu?
[02:11] <bigtom21485> siminja: right click your top panel, click "add to panel..." then add the "cpu frequency scaling monitor"
[02:12] <shiro_> is the new beta ready ?
[02:12] <bigtom21485> siminja: you can vary your cpu's processing frequency (and therefore power) to whatever you'd like depending on how much work you wanna get done and how much battery you wanna save
[02:12] <crashdata> bigtom21485, me to long time ago :)
[02:12] <Guest76571> I need help installing a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG card on Ubuntu 8.04. Nothing I've tried works...
[02:13] <crashdata> bigtom21485,  if this doesnt work do i need to work with ndiswrapper then? to get my wireless going
[02:13] <dhanesh>  bigtom21485 : recording live audio streams from internet
[02:13] <bigtom21485> crashdata: i had a friend tell me to try windows 7...i laughed. i was sick of the lies.  "its better this time" they said.  windows is like an ex girlfriend that keeps lying to get back with you.
[02:13] <shiro_> what's the newest linux kernel under ubuntu ? I'm waiting for the 2.6.33
[02:13] <bigtom21485> shiro_: what do we get that we didnt have before?
[02:13] <crashdata> but this doesnt make sense cause some of this model are ship with linux in it
[02:13] <bigtom21485> crashdata: you're venturing into unknown territory for me
[02:13] <sirninja> bigtom21485: I've been doing that and it helps, but is there a way for it to automatically switch to powersave mode when on battery power and I can adjust it up as needed?
[02:14] <crashdata> bigtom21485, k np
[02:14] <shiro_> bigtom21485: a driver for a marvell yukon NIC, the driver is already available but you have to compile it yourself each time a new kernel is installed
[02:14] <bigtom21485> siminja: you'll wanna google that because theres several ways to do it.  linux defaults to run "on demand," i prefer performance because i have a double-capacity battery
[02:15] <bigtom21485> siminja: *"performance"
[02:15] <jasonjm> have a email question
[02:15] <jasonjm> wondering if anyone might be able to answer
[02:15] <sirninja> bigtom21485: I'll look into that. Just curious, how much battery life do you get with yours?
[02:16] <shiro_> can anyone post the result of 'uname -r' on ubuntu ?
[02:16] <random75> I am trying to make it so users and read and write files to a mounted FAT32 partition and it isn't working. Is chmod 777 -R /mountpoint the right command?
[02:17] <bigtom21485> sirninja: i get an hour or two, but im always working on stuff and its running full-speed all the time...i dont like worrying about it speeding up and slowing down so i jsut set it run fast so its always ready for whatever i throw at it
[02:17] <jasonjm> -r will tell what kern your using
[02:17] <shiro_> random75: not sure fat32 has the same rights system as other filesystem in the unix world
[02:17] <jasonjm> will be different depending on your arch and or vm or not
[02:17] <random75> shiro_, do you know how I would make it read/write than?
[02:17] <bigtom21485> sirninja: i would definately recommend a higher-capacity battery from ebay or craig's list
[02:18] <jasonjm> fat32 has diff rights
[02:18] <sirninja> bigtom21485: I currently have a 9 cell... I by no means have a "short" battery life. I just want to maximize what I get
[02:18] <random75> jasonjm, how would I make it read/write?
[02:18] <shiro_> random75: you may have to create an interface suid root, as far as I know only root can write on mounted fat32 partitions
[02:19] <hiexpo> hello all
[02:19] <jasonjm> random75, stick with fstab
[02:19] <shiro_> random75: if you let gnome mount the device, your local user can write on it too.
[02:19] <random75> jasonjm, I have it auto-mounting in fstab, but I can't write to the partition
[02:20] <ziesemer_> Maybe, where is xorg.conf under xbuntu ?
[02:20] <leonardo21> Hi people, I have a problem on ubuntu: I installed adobe flash player from ubuntu repository and after I installed gnash plugin. Gnash "replaced" adobe.. On Firefox. I don't see adobe plugin listed anymore
[02:20] <leonardo21> Adobe is installed but doesn't show on browser plugins
[02:21] <leonardo21> because I installed gnash too
[02:21] <leonardo21> I filled a bug report on Google Chrome and they said is ubuntu problem
[02:21] <leonardo21> I'll find the bug report and post here
[02:21] <Guest76571> *Sigh* Ubuntu and laptops....
[02:22] <Guest76571> cant get this crap to work
[02:22] <jasonjm> for the record, Ubuntu drains my 'old' P4M laptop
[02:22] <jasonjm> and a few macbooks
[02:22] <jasonjm> (older)
[02:22] <hiexpo> leonardo21, it is an easy fix just open your firefox click add ons searck type adobe and run thru the list and get flash bac
[02:22] <leela> hi
[02:23] <SuperMiguel> when the kernel chashes the memory does it really make the system run faster? like will i see a speed improvement from 8gb to 16gb of ram??
[02:23] <leonardo21> hiexpo: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=40732
[02:23] <Guest76571> anyone here who's good at drivers and crap in ubuntu 8.04 in here? need some brainstorming.
[02:23] <SuperMiguel> caches*
[02:23] <leela> i'm a girl
[02:24] <mc_> hi leela ;D
[02:24] <maco> leela: good for you?
[02:24] <shiro_> random75: mount_msdosfs -u user -g group may be what you want too
[02:24] <leonardo21> hiexpo: see comment 5
[02:24] <Snackfood> noone? dammit...
[02:24] <maco> leela: would you like to join #ubuntu-women?
[02:24] <leela> ok ok
[02:24] <lepine> Do you need the alternate install CD to install on a RAID/LVM?
[02:24] <leela> :D
[02:24] <sirninja> Guest76571: ask your question, somebody may be able to help
[02:25] <shiro_> random75: check the man of fstab if you have it (the freebsd version will give you an example on how to insert it in /etc/fstab)
[02:25] <hiexpo> leonardo21, yes was gonna tell you that
[02:25] <leela> only me in ubuntu women
[02:25] <Planetary> help. a power surge happened now my computer (xubuntu) boots in to terminal. How do I start xfce? I rebooted and same thing. I hit control alt f7 and it just gets rid of the text in teh terminal
[02:26] <leonardo21> hiexpo: what to do?
[02:26] <leonardo21> hiexpo: it's a ubuntu bug?
[02:26] <hiexpo> go like i said and reinstall through firefox
[02:27] <leonardo21> hiexpo: But I want a solution to Google Chrome
[02:27] <hiexpo> but disable the other first
[02:27] <Snackfood> I need help installing a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG card on Ubuntu 8.04. Nothing I've tried works...
[02:28] <dhanesh>  shiro how can i record internet live audio streams
[02:28] <hiexpo> oh sorry misunderstood dont know
[02:28] <sirninja> Snackfood: do you see anything under hardware drivers?
[02:28] <mc_> Planetary, try service gdm restart
[02:28] <leonardo21> hiexpo: no answer?
[02:28] <hiexpo> !illegal
[02:28] <mc_> or logon in the console and try "startx"
[02:28] <hiexpo> sorry nope
[02:28] <shiro_> dhanesh: i suppose that you want me to answer ? Try Wireshark
[02:29] <Planetary> mc_. for xubuntu with xfce?
[02:29] <leonardo21> ok
[02:29] <hiexpo> i will find one though a little later relaxing right now
[02:29] <mc_> well these are standard comments
[02:29] <mc_> commands*
[02:29] <Snackfood> sirninja, nothing useful
[02:30] <Snackfood> sirninja, the network card works fine and autoinstalls on newer ubuntu versions but not this one, too old i guess. Found the drivers and a guide how to install but...It doesn't work.
[02:31] <hiexpo> shiro_,  - that gut was doing that last night and i actuallt got in trouble in the forums for posting a fix for youtube-dl got suspended
[02:31] <hiexpo> guy
[02:31] <sirninja> Snackfood: maybe install a newer kernel? I've never done anything like that before, but it might work. Is there any reason you don't want to use a newer version of ubuntu?
[02:31] <scott_ino2> any transcode/mencoder users in here? It hangs using dvdrip.
[02:32] <Snackfood> sirninja, well I've got this crappy nx9420 with a x1600 ati card that doesn't work on never distros.
[02:32] <Coburn> Heya peeps
[02:33] <hiexpo> dhanesh, do not ask people in here how to do something illegal downloading live streams could be illegal depending on policies of the site no one is going to tell you how so quit asking people to commit a crime
[02:33] <sirninja> Snackfood: I see. So they fix one thing and break another. This is probably off topic here, but have you tried any other linux distros?
[02:34] <Coburn> I'm having issues with a MacBook 6,1. Sound isn't working, and I've installed the lastest alsa backport as described in the wiki. Alsamixer says "no mixer elems" found, and I have done the alsa-base.conf model=mbp5 hack. I'm kinda on the borderline of giving up on Ubuntu, any help would be great so I can restore my sanity! :)
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> Coburn:  try the beta release yet? it might fix some of the issues..
[02:35] <Snackfood> sirninja, Yeah I tried 9.10 just the other day, the graphics card doesn't work but the Wireless network card works :P kinda pisses one of.
[02:35] <Coburn> Beta release? Which one is that?
[02:36] <JasonGiedymin> if your macbook can do VT-X then just go with a vm like virtualbox
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> Coburn:  10.04 is out in beta now.. final reelease expected near the end of april
[02:36] <sirninja> Snackfood: I mean have you tried a linux distro besides ubuntu? Ubuntu usually does a pretty good job with hardware support, but if it doesn't work for your hardware, there are dozens of alternatives
[02:36] <Coburn> Also, I got my Macbook's GeForce 9400M GPU working.... Slick as oil compiz FXs!
[02:37] <Coburn> Dr_Willis: I also heard the .32 kernel fixes some issues
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> Coburn:  I find that a lot with newerr kernels. :)
[02:37] <Snackfood> sirninja, Oh, no i havn't I'm not familliar with any other Linux so I'm not sure i can handle anything else.
[02:37] <Coburn> I just really don't like running around in circles! I got Wifi working and the GPU working, just don't want to have to update the whole thing again! :P
[02:38] <Coburn> Just for sound, that is
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> Coburn:  try the latest daily build live cd.
[02:38] <Snackfood> sirninja,  now....I just tried something.
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> Coburn:  if it has an issue. file a bug report on it.  Otherwise it may never get fixed.
[02:38] <Coburn> Dr_Willis: alright, but 700MB takes a while to download...
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> Coburn:  about 15 min here. :)
[02:39] <shiro_> funny, irssi has just crashed because of my malloc function
[02:39] <Coburn> There's no LiveCD Torrent?
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> Coburn:  there proberly are. but yopu proberly want the latest DailyBuild. it will be the most up to date
[02:39] <Snackfood> sirninja, tryed typing "dmesg | grep -i 3945" just for fun to see if anything had changed.
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> Coburn:  Beta2 was due out today also (or tomorrow)
[02:39] <Snackfood> sirninja, and it has.
[02:40] <Coburn> Hm, okay.
[02:40] <Coburn> Should I upgrade my ALSA in the meantime?
[02:40] <Snackfood> sirninja, [   27.265443] iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux, 1.2.0] last time i checked it was nothing.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> Coburn:  No idea on alsa upgrades. ive rarely ever had sound issues. Beta2 out today -> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=05999   test to see if it works.
[02:40] <shiro_> by the way, can someone post the output of uname -r on a up-to-date ubuntu ?
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Coburn:  if nothing else.. test it to see if it works..if not..file a bug. so perhaps it will get fixed in thefinal release.
[02:41] <sirninja> Snackfood: Is it working now?
[02:41] <ne7work> please someone help me with phpmyadmin
[02:42] <sloopy> shiro_,  mine says 2.6.31-20-generic  and i just checked updates about an hour ago
[02:42] <n1md4> Hello.   I'd like to install Ubuntu Hardy server edition on 1TB HDDs, but the installer fails to recognise the disks.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[02:42] <shiro_> sloopy: thank you very much
[02:42] <sloopy> np
[02:42] <Planetary> how do i get out of terminal it keeps booting in there. i have xubuntu with xfce
[02:43] <mc_> Planetary, so it didn't work?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> Planetary:  if the Login manager is not startingproperly - thers some issue going on. You could try the 'startx' command to see if X starts up
[02:43] <mc_> start x?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> no space.. -> 'startx'
[02:43] <mc_> yeah
[02:44] <Planetary> i get faitale error no screens found
[02:44] <chris78945> Hello! I need help setting up personal file sharing, the box tells me that i dont have the correct packages installed. I do not know what packages to install.  I am on a fresh install of 10.04
[02:44] <Planetary> concult xorg
[02:44] <patrik_> sirninja, now it's working ^
[02:45] <shiro_> Planetary: what did you do ? At least you have a shell, you won't lose your data
[02:45] <patrik_> sirninja, damn that was exhausting =P
[02:45] <Planetary> no such file or directory
[02:45] <Babalabon> does anyone here know, what is the differece between ubuntu 32bit and 64bit?
[02:45] <sirninja> patrik: lol, if you like ubuntu, you will pick your next laptop so that it will work perfectly. :P
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Babalabon:  one is for 64bit machines.. other for 32bit machines.
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Babalabon:  so what cpu do you have?
[02:46] <shiro_> Babalabon: captain obvious ?
[02:46] <mc_> either your card is pooched or config, try X -configure, should create new config ,which you can try , if it works copy it to /etc/X11
[02:46] <hiexpo> Lydia`, hello
[02:46] <bsmith093> i have ubuntu and xp dualbooting off the sam hd and i suddenly cant unmount the xp partition
[02:46] <Lydia`> hiya hiexpo
[02:47] <Babalabon> shiro: you dickhead, I needed know alittle more info than that
[02:47] <hiexpo> Lydia`, did ya get your new to
[02:47] <hiexpo> toy
[02:47] <Coburn> Babalabon, hey! LANGUAGE!
[02:47] <__ka__> bsmith093, is it complaining about a cleanly unmounted drive?
[02:47] <bsmith093> afaik yes
[02:47] <mc_> bsmith093, check your consoles/ xterm windows, you likely have some file opened
[02:47] <Planetary> well its my aunts computer talking on the phone with her. she lives in florida and the power flicked off then on then booted up into terminal.
[02:47] <Babalabon> coburn: well tell shiro to shut up and quit being such a duche
[02:48] <dboy> lib question on 10.04B2...libjpeg62 available libjpeg not..is this a bug?
[02:48] <Planetary> i guesss a power surge or drop or somethign
[02:48] <shiro_> Babalabon: You mean that you know what's the difference between 32 and 64 bits processors ? why do you ask then ? i don't get it, sorry
[02:48] <Coburn> 64bit = Better addressing >4GB RAM
[02:48] <shiro_> Babalabon: My bad if i misunderstood you
[02:48] <mc_> good luck... :/
[02:48] <chris78945> Hello! I need help setting up personal file sharing, the box tells me that i dont have the correct packages installed. I do not know what packages to install.  I am on a fresh install of 10.04
[02:48] <hiexpo> omg
[02:49] <Coburn> chris78945, we heard you the first time
[02:49] <Coburn> chris78945, spill the beans
[02:49] <dhanesh> coburn how can i convert a software running in windows to ubuntu
[02:49] <patrik_> Coburn, Wine?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[02:49] <Coburn> dhanesh, I used to use  Wine-Doors
[02:50] <hiexpo> Lydia`, how are you doing today ?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> chris78945:  see the samba factoid/docs/guides
[02:50] <Babalabon> shiro: I know. can 64bit ver. do things the 32bit ver cannot, thats what Im asking.
[02:50] <Nik_> Does anyone triple boot here with xp 7 and ubuntu?
[02:50] <Coburn> I dual boot Mac and Ubuntu
[02:50] <patrik_> Nik_, I do.
[02:50] <chris78945> Dr_Willis, where is that?
[02:50] <shiro_> !rtfm
[02:50] <Coburn> I could run both at the same time, if I wanted ... :P
[02:50] <shiro_> just testing
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> chris78945:  the bot just gave it to the channel
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> !samba > chris78945
[02:50] <coll> is there a quicktime player to watch a video on apple's website?
[02:50] <Kidd> so many
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> chris78945:  also 10.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[02:51] <sirninja> Nik_: I did at one time
[02:51] <Coburn> coll, install mplayer and then libw32codecs
[02:51] <Coburn> mplayer = win
[02:51] <hiexpo> ya quicktime
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> coll:  you have to download them I belive. then play them locally  last i heard. but ive neer really messed withit.
[02:51] <coll> let me see.
[02:51] <Planetary> shire_ , well its my aunts computer, i am talking on the phone with her. she lives in florida and the power flicked off then on then booted up into terminal. so i guess apower sureg or something.
[02:51] <patrik_> mplayer...yuck..=P
[02:51] <chris78945> that you very much
[02:51] <Nik_> patrik_: If I install 7 after I already have my dual boot working, you think a reinstall of grub will recreate the menu for me and not crash my system?
[02:52] <sirninja> Nik_: it will regenerate the menu for you
[02:52] <Coburn> Planetary, tell her to read the info on the screen.
[02:52] <Coburn> Planetary, if it says something like root filesystem, do
[02:52] <coll> Dr_Willis, i see.. let me give it a try.
[02:52] <Babalabon> How long is ubuntu and mircosoft going to support 32bit mechines?
[02:52] <Coburn> e2fsck /
[02:52] <patrik_> Nik_, If it can locate the previous installs then yes, no problem.
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Babalabon:  most netbooks are 32bit. so i imagine for quite a long time.
[02:53] <Coburn> Babalabon, 32bit will be around for ages...
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> Babalabon:  i imagine most linux disrtos will support 32bit for a VERY long time.
[02:53] <Nik_> sirninja: So I shouldn't have any fears of installing 7 then (I lost my xp disk so if I lose that I'll be in sad shape
[02:53] <Babalabon> Ok thank you all for your input
[02:53] <hiexpo> i actually like 32 bit better
[02:53] <patrik_> Nik_, If it cant, u might have to edit the grub manually. It's easy though.
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> Babalabon:  MS could drop 32bit much sooner then linux would. I would imagine.
[02:53] <coll> Coburn, is the libw32codecs on the Ubuntu Software Center?
[02:53] <Babalabon> Sorry shiro
[02:53] <Planetary> it has: i get faitale error no screens found
[02:53] <Planetary> i get faitale server error no screens found
[02:54] <Planetary> concult xorg
[02:54] <Planetary> no such file or directory
[02:54] <shiro_> Babalabon: no problem, see you
[02:54] <captain-obvious> <shiro_> Babalabon: captain obvious ?
[02:54] <captain-obvious> ?
[02:55]  * n1md4 leave
[02:55] <mc_> Planetary, ask your aunt to run X -configure as root
[02:56] <mc_> should create a config file locally and say how to run it
[02:56] <mc_> for test
[02:56] <Planetary> type 'X -configure as root' ?
[02:56] <mc_> yeah
[02:56] <IdleOne> sudo X -configure
[02:57] <mc_> it seems that /etc/X11/xorg.conf is pooched
[02:57] <mc_> but could be something else
[02:57] <IdleOne> I doubt that X -configure as root will work
[02:57] <IdleOne> as a command that is
[02:57] <mc_> I'mean logon as root
[02:57] <mc_> then run "X -configure"
[02:57] <mc_> or run "sudo X -configure"
[02:58] <mc_> as IdleOne proposed
[02:58] <mc_> sorry
[02:58] <IdleOne> mc_: I think you might need to be more precise with the commands you are asking Planetary to run. :)
[02:58] <IdleOne> just a suggestion
[02:58] <mc_> I know ...
[02:58] <Planetary> would it be: sudo -i X -configure
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> I was thinking it was more complex then X -configure also.. but in THEORY  just removing the xorg.conf should work also.
[02:59] <Circs> I have a very weird request. I'm trying to get ubuntu onto a laptop with a broken screen to use as a desktop. I have managed to get it to boot, but is there a "blind" walkthrough (hit tab 3 times, hit enter, type this) to get ubuntu UNR 9.10 going?
[02:59] <aframester> lol
[02:59] <IdleOne> Dr_Willis: I have no idea what the issue is to be honest just saw what he asked to run and noticed that it seemed to literal
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> IdleOne:  yep.
[03:00] <Circs> NVM Just got HDMI out working through sheer luck. You guys are at the very least awesome good luck charms
[03:02] <hiexpo> Lydia`,  - i see u wrote a few theme's   :)
[03:02] <Lydia`> What themes?
[03:02] <Lydia`> i'm confused
[03:03] <hiexpo> Lydia`,  - i typed your name and it can up in graffics and and themes or something ?
[03:04] <Lydia`> hiexpo, no idea, I use Xchat
[03:04] <Lydia`> hiexpo, nothing special
[03:04] <vexati0n> help, please! i installed KDE then uninstalled it, now there is no audio coming from the speakers. i reinstalled pulseaudio and alsa, checked alsamixer, the pulseaudio volume meter shows audio playing, but nothing is going to the speakers.
[03:04] <knoppies> Lydia`, I think he is referring to gnome-look or something similar.
[03:05] <Planetary> sudo -i X -configure does. list i think something like xorg conf and says no kernal load setting
[03:05] <Planetary> what the hell
[03:05] <turminder> Hi, when I do df -h, I see a bunch of /dev/sys, /dev/shm, /var/run, /var/lock mounted
[03:05] <turminder> and they are apparently using ram, is that right?
[03:06] <Banshee_> I just installed ubuntu latest version and it installed and what not, but when I try to boot it just brings me to the sh:grub> command line, when i type boot it says unknown kernel or something along those lines, any help?
[03:06] <Golumm> I was upgrading my ubuntu to 9.10 but suddently my network disconnected. How can I resume the upgrade???
[03:07] <hiexpo> Lydia`,  - sorry i was mistaken thought u were someone else i talked to last night named lydia    :)
[03:07] <ne7work> please someone help me with phpmyadmin
[03:07] <mc_> Planetary, I think this was an important error message , can you quote it exactly (note: no promises I can help)
[03:07] <hiexpo> !ask
[03:08] <turminder> How is the amount of ram allocated to /dev/shm, /var/run, /var/lock, etc. detemined?
[03:08] <Banshee_> Anybody know the answer to my question =P
[03:08] <turminder> it seems to be variable.
[03:08] <mc_> Banshee just reinstall, good advise
[03:09] <mc_> you don't wanna mess with grub
[03:09] <Banshee_> Ok thanks
[03:09] <Circs> Is there a way to tell a laptop to only ever use the external display?
[03:10] <mc_>  definitely, there should be a key combination (all the IBM laptops have it at least)
[03:10] <mc_> try toggling Fn-F7
[03:11] <Circs> mc_, As soon as it starts behaving itself enough I'll try it
[03:15] <Planetary> i740 chip voodoo i128 ( bunch of letters) VESA. using config file: (/root/xorg.conf.new). (II) [ms} no DRIC reat C (bunch of letters).
[03:15] <Tohuw> bug 514950 is marked as "fix committed". how can i get my hands on this fix? I don't see it attached...
[03:16] <IdleOne> Tohuw: update/upgrade
[03:16] <IdleOne> and it should update whatever package it is that bug affects
[03:16] <Tohuw> IdleOne: I thought so, but I didn't see it in the latest dist-upgrade
[03:16] <Planetary> she will email me tomorrow with it exactly. i we can t figure it out  i will reinstall the /boo and / partitions
[03:17] <IdleOne> Tohuw: don't know :/
[03:17] <IdleOne> sorry
[03:17] <randomusr_> how can I reset my nagios password from bash?
[03:17] <Golumm> I was upgrading my ubuntu to 9.10 but suddently my network disconnected. How can I resume the upgrade???
[03:17] <mc_> Planetary, the scary thing is that X is usually pretty good at recognizing the hardware and creating working config file
[03:17] <mc_> This could be a hardware issue
[03:18] <ToStItOs> I installed Ubuntu 9.10 in my secondary slave drive with the Windows Xp drive plugged in. One problem is Windows is not loading. I have read you can restore Windows to the bootloader. Would it be a wise decision?
[03:18] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, how did you configure grub upon install?
[03:18] <mc_> but obviously it run the new config (hence /root/xorg.conf.new)
[03:18] <IdleOne> Tohuw: that is a Lucid bug I haven't received any updates today either
[03:19] <IdleOne> wait till morning it will probably be pushed then to all the servers
[03:19] <Tohuw> ok. Hmm, why isn't Pidgin playing the highlight sound? Odd. Well, thanks.
[03:19] <Planetary> yaa it doesnt surprise me. I sent a care package with ram and a graphics card and xubuntu 9.10 after her windows 2000 system got infected. its a sortof goofy card but more powerful than what she had. its a radeon 7500 diablotech
[03:20] <IdleOne> Tohuw: see #ubuntu+1 for more support since you are running Lucid
[03:20] <mc_> Planetary, hmm, why then it used a voodoo driver
[03:20] <mc_> isn't it what I read?
[03:20] <Planetary> i mean a diablotek radeon 7500. she had a tnt2
[03:20] <ToStItOs> randomusr_: I apparently did not configure it correctly you see I am not very familiar with partitioning so I screwed that up
[03:21] <Planetary> mc_: well she also has  her resolution stuck at 800x600 and i tried to switch teh driver. stupid ati
[03:21] <mc_> ooh
[03:21] <ToStItOs> I did not add windows to the bootloader
[03:21] <ToStItOs> thats what i forgot to do
[03:21] <mc_> should'va edit xorg.conf
[03:22] <Planetary> mc_: i wonder if putting the TNT 2 in would be better even though it slower...
[03:22] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, no need to be brash, just trying to help. Why not try re-installing grub?
[03:22] <randal> How do you update your Bios in Linux plz help
[03:22] <mc_> just remember you will have to recreate xorg.conf as it's different chipset
[03:23] <randomusr_> randal, um do what?
[03:23] <Planetary> mc_: I edited the xorg.conf file and changed the driver to vesa to radeon and it didnt seem to work
[03:23] <themusicgod1> randal: why do you need to do that?
[03:23] <randal> randomusr_,  Update my laptop bios
[03:23] <ToStItOs> I am just upset with the whole thing
[03:23] <randomusr_> randal, most manufacturers allow you to create a bootcd or bootfloppy to flash the bios
[03:23] <Planetary> its one thing i miss from 7.04 is an easy way to chang ethe driver
[03:24] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, do you not want assistance then?
[03:24] <randal> themusicgod1,  It has some fixes for my wifi and booting up its a eee pc
[03:24] <Circs> I just purchased a wireless keyboard touchpad combo and mysteriously the touchpad works but the keyboard does not. Any thoughts?
[03:24] <randomusr_> randal, are you 100% confident that you understand the risks of updating the bios?
[03:24] <ToStItOs> randomusr_: I do
[03:25] <ToStItOs> I am trying to see my options
[03:25] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, being upset does nothing to fix the problem
[03:25] <randal> randomusr_,  its usually not that hard yes i understand the risks
[03:25] <ToStItOs> I know I was frustrated last night
[03:26] <randal> randomusr_,  is there a program for linux to flsh the bios or something
[03:26] <mc_> from vesa to radeon?
[03:26] <mc_> try ati
[03:26] <randomusr_> randal, go to a windows machine and download the iso image or boot floppy for your computer then boot from that
[03:26] <ToStItOs> sorry for the rage
[03:26] <randomusr_> or google.com/linux flash bios
[03:26] <mc_> but it's best to make X create it and later just tweak things like mouse or default resolution
[03:26] <ToStItOs> My mind is better today
[03:26] <randal> randomusr_,  the think is its a netbook i dont have a cd drive or floppy
[03:26] <mc_> I was writing on the vim channel to you, they must have been scratching their heads wtf I'm talking about xD
[03:27] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, the best way to get help is ask what you want to accomplish
[03:27] <Jonathanch> Hay i have 4 demonoid invitation codes if any one is interested
[03:27] <sebsebseb> !piracy | Jonathanch
[03:27] <randal> randomusr_, thing*
[03:27] <randomusr_> randal, I believe those offer a usb flash drive option, or you can use a 2.5 usb floppy drive
[03:28] <themusicgod1> !o4o
[03:28] <Planetary> thanks for the help everyone. have a good night
[03:28] <ToStItOs> randomusr_: I know I had a thought now you said reinstall grub
[03:28] <mc_> gnite
[03:28] <laurus> Has anyone here tried GNOME Shell?
[03:29] <randomusr_> yes, probably from a live cd
[03:29] <sebsebseb> !ot | laurus
[03:29] <taesoo> is there anyone running oprofiler at karmic?
[03:29] <Coburn> Terminal? Yes?
[03:29] <Circs> I cannot get my keyboard to work with ubuntu, any help?
[03:30] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, pull up a terminal please
[03:30] <hiexpo> Lydia`,  - did ya get your new hack box? :)
[03:30] <ToStItOs> what if reinstalled 9.10 and added windows
[03:30] <taesoo> oprofile (opreport) is simply saying (opreport error: No sample file found)
[03:30] <randal> randomusr_,  im on the asus support website i cant find any prgoram that can flash bios exept for windows
[03:30] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, that's bold and cumbersome, but i guess it could work. it helps to know what you're doing
[03:31] <randomusr_> randal, give me a moment and I'll see if I can pull it up
[03:31] <ToStItOs> that will be a problem that computer does not have the internet configured
[03:32] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, I don't understand, what does that have to do with anything?
[03:32] <W43372> Where can I locate smb.conf?
[03:32] <randomusr_> randal, is that just eee or is there a model or something?
[03:32] <ToStItOs> brb let me check something
[03:32] <themusicgod1> W43372: try "locate smb.conf"
[03:32] <randomusr_> W43372, did you install samba?
[03:33] <W43372> yes.
[03:33] <IdleOne> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[03:33] <randomusr_> how about ls -l /etc/ | grep smb
[03:33] <randomusr_> or that
[03:33] <Golumm> I was upgrading my ubuntu to 9.10 but suddently my network disconnected. How can I resume the upgrade???
[03:33] <themusicgod1> Golumm: at what point did it stop??
[03:34] <Baram> I'm trying to recover data from a failed disk via  liveCD, how can I backup/copy the files but save the permissions?
[03:34] <Golumm> themusicgod1 when it was downloading the packages
[03:34] <IdleOne> Golumm: restarting the upgrade and letting it calculate what it needs to download would probably be best
[03:34] <SuspectZero> hey there, is there a software i can use to see if my bluetooth works or not?
[03:34] <randomusr_> randal, is that just eee pc?
[03:34] <randomusr_> randal, what country did you buy it in?
[03:34] <Golumm> Idle0ne there is no upgrade button in the update manager and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade didn't work
[03:35] <h00k> SuspectZero: the icon should show up if bluetooth is enabled
[03:35] <IdleOne> Golumm: try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:35] <SuspectZero> h00k, the funny thing is, i have a bluetooth symbol on my laptop but i dont know if its a button or something
[03:35] <IdleOne> Golumm: is apt-get upgrade giving any errors?
[03:36] <Golumm> Idle0ne no.
[03:36] <randal> randomusr_, its a eee pc 1008 ha
[03:36] <IdleOne> Golumm: it's an O not a 0
[03:36] <avner1> hi, iam looking for a vpn client to install on an ubuntu 9.10 server, that can connet to checkpoint firewall, can anyone recomend such a software?
[03:36] <h00k> SuspectZero: Yeah, some are vague about that.  Check your BIOS. If you have it and it's enabled/available, you'll see an icon in your notification area
[03:36] <randal> #flashrom on irc.freenode.net
[03:36] <Golumm> IdleOne sudo apt-get -f install didn't work as well
[03:36] <SuspectZero> h00k, awesome, i'll check that, thanks
[03:36] <IdleOne> Golumm: didn't work? in what sense?
[03:37] <Golumm> IdleOne zero packets updated.
[03:37] <IdleOne> Golumm: ok you went from 9.04 to 9.10?
[03:38] <Golumm> No, I'm still in 9.04
[03:38] <IdleOne> Golumm: do lsb_release -a make sure
[03:38] <h00k> SuspectZero: good luck!
[03:38] <Lydia`> hiexpo, yes i did, it runs fine, but took all afternoon to setup
[03:38] <Golumm> IdleOne yeah, Jaunty 9.04
[03:38] <IdleOne> hmmm
[03:39] <ToStItOs> randomusr_: Let me explain the issue more clearly:  I have two computers one has Xubuntu alone the other has Windows Xp and I added a second drive which now contains 9.10. What happened is I believe I did not configure the bootloader towards the end of install but again this is my first time adding a second drive with Windows Xp
[03:39] <randomusr_> randal, I was able to find it without issue
[03:39] <d0wngrade> Hello room. This is my first time in a IRC room. :P
[03:39] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, hold a moment
[03:39] <Guest76007> hello.
[03:39] <ToStItOs> pk
[03:39] <ToStItOs> ok
[03:40] <randomusr_> randal, still here?
[03:40] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, open a terminal
[03:40] <IdleOne> Golumm: not sure what to suggest.
[03:41] <botakedan> hallo...
[03:41] <hiexpo> Lydia`,  - oh wow so is it worth it ?
[03:41] <botakedan> any support in here ?
[03:41] <d0wngrade> Is anyone here into exploit development? I've been getting into it and it's very interesting. I was wondering if anyone could help me learn more?
[03:41] <ToStItOs> the computer is in another room
[03:41] <IdleOne> Golumm: sudo do-release-upgrade
[03:42] <IdleOne> see what it says
[03:42] <h00k> d0wngrade: this isn't the place for that
[03:42] <IdleOne> !ot | d0wngrade
[03:42] <IdleOne> and neither is -offtopic
[03:42] <Kenthree> when I click Set System Time in the date and time config it asks me to authenticate but does nothing, is this known bug or just me?
[03:42] <d0wngrade> Oh, I'm sorry...
[03:42] <crucialhoax> Kenthree: Just you. my system works
[03:43] <Golumm> IdleOne seems that it works. Thanks
[03:43] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, do this from the command line "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[03:43] <IdleOne> Golumm: sure thing. let me know how it works out :)
[03:43] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, tell me if windows is listed
[03:44] <Kenthree> crucialhoax: any idea what the problem could be?
[03:44] <ToStItOs> randomusr_: I configured that last night windows is in there but for some reason when I select windows i get a black blank screen
[03:44] <Lydia`> hiexpo, it's okay i can't say yet
[03:44] <ToStItOs> in the boot sequence when I restart
[03:45] <Baram> !grub2
[03:45] <hiexpo> Lydia`,  - what kind of wireless card does it have ?
[03:45] <MK-BB> +OK yM0kY1XMlay1zAQRz/Ls8.z13cL7T/oL7NC.Q3RS70SR4pO.
[03:45] <ToStItOs> Now one thing that may be causing a problem
[03:45] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, could you copy the lines for windows and pastebin it?
[03:45] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, then give me the link to the pastebin?
[03:45] <damascene> hello, any one knows how to add page to ubuntu wiki?
[03:46] <Circs> I was hoping someone could help get my new keyboard/touchpad working with 9.10, any help?
[03:46] <crucialhoax> Circs: What laptop is it?
[03:47] <ToStItOs> Brb
[03:47] <randomusr_> ToStItOs, ubottu, lists the official page for grub above
[03:47] <Lydia`> hiexpo, some sort of Marvel wifi chip that goes with the Marvel xScale CPU
[03:47] <Circs> crucialhoax, Well I'm actually trying to get a wireless keyboard working so I can use it in my living room
[03:47] <ToStItOs> ok give me a minute and I'll look at that
[03:47] <crucialhoax> Circs: So it is USB?
[03:48] <SuperMiguel> when the kernel chaches the memory (RAM) does it really make the system run faster? like will i see a speed improvement from 8gb to 16gb of ram??
[03:48] <crucialhoax> Lydia`: type sudo lshw -C Network
[03:48] <Circs> crucialhoax, Yes, and the touchpad portion works just fine, and the little receiver blinks when I touch keys but no text is produced
[03:48] <crucialhoax> SuperMiguel: Probably not
[03:48] <randomusr_> it is very important that you know what you want to do before starting and know what you hope to accomplish
[03:48] <hiexpo> damascene, ya what ya wanna add just click lick new user than theres a buttonon the bottom that says new ? someting
[03:49] <crucialhoax> Circs: Type lsusb in a terminal and see if the system recognizes the keyboard
[03:49] <damascene> hiexpo, found it thanks, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/PageCreation
[03:49] <randomusr_> how can I reset my nagios admin password, the one I set isn't working
[03:49] <DrDank> Anyone Used Eggdrop via VM Ubuntu ?? If so mind giving some help /suggestions to a total newbie? much appricated!!
[03:50] <Circs> crucialhoax, http://paste.ubuntu.com/411415/
[03:50] <Arsin> How can I access files from a live disk that's under a user?
[03:50] <crucialhoax> Circs: What brand is the keyboard/
[03:51] <crucialhoax> Arsin: Just go under places and it should say <#GB File system> click on it as that is the install Ubuntu
[03:51] <Circs> crucialhoax, They went out of their way to not put a name brand on it
[03:52] <crucialhoax> Circs: So I am guessing it is the Ortek Technology one?
[03:52] <Circs> crucialhoax, Sounds good to me. I am on a dell laptop so it's not the dell one
[03:53] <Circs> crucialhoax, Saw it on craigslist for cheap and thought "How much trouble can a keyboard be?" Oh silly me
[03:53] <crucialhoax> Circs: Looks like there are quite a few bug reports on this
[03:53] <Circs> crucialhoax, Does that mean i am up a proverbial river?
[03:54] <crucialhoax> Circs: No, let me look through it and see. Is this your KB? http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158377
[03:54] <Lydia`> hiexpo, it's onboard
[03:54] <Circs> Uh yeah, wow
[03:54] <Circs> crucialhoax, Yeah you're sharp
[03:54] <Circs> :)
[03:54] <Lydia`> hiexpo, Marvell 88W8686 802.11b/g
[03:54] <uvacav> question.. my gpu fried on my laptop so i have to send it back. i really want to format as im afraid they will say linux voids the warranty. Is there any sortof bootable distro i can use to format without being able to see what im doing (graphical glitches everywhere)
[03:55] <crucialhoax> Circs: Perfect. Hang tight.
[03:55] <Typh> anyone know the equivalent for fdisk -f on unix/osx? It's for providing a configfile
[03:56] <Typh> I can't find anything that seems the same in relation to linux/ubuntu
[03:58] <crucialhoax> Circs: You still here?
[03:59] <TGP1994> Hi there everyone. I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 with Webmin, and I cannot get php working at all. Nothing happens when I try an echo. Can anyone help?
[03:59] <Circs> crucialhoax, Yep :D
[04:00] <crucialhoax> Circs: A developer had posted in the bug report and stated that it needed a kernel patch. This particular patch was applied in Lucid, so if you want it to work in Karmic, you would need a new kernel.
[04:00] <hiexpo> Lydia`,  - will it go in monitor mode
[04:00] <TGP1994> So, can anyone help me?
[04:00] <Circs> crucialhoax, Ummm... Ok? I'm not exactly a power user I guess... What should I do?
[04:01] <TGP1994> Anyone at all?
[04:01] <bastid_raZor> !webmin | TGP1994
[04:01] <crucialhoax> Circs: Neither am I, I honestly have no clue how to apply kernel patches. But one way to see is grab a Lucid iso burn it, boot it and see if it works in Lucid. if it does, wait until the final release of Lucid and use that.
[04:02] <TGP1994> Lol...
[04:02] <TGP1994> !ebox
[04:02] <Circs> crucialhoax, Oh, ok. Off to the races with Lucid. :D
[04:02] <TGP1994> Nice...
[04:02] <bastid_raZor> TGP1994: hope that helps
[04:02] <HandyGandy> Where can I find freenx for koala?
[04:02] <crucialhoax> Circs: I would try a Live CD just to make sure that it does work though.
[04:03] <bastid_raZor> !freenx | HandyGandy
[04:03] <Circs> crucialhoax, Of course.
[04:03] <HandyGandy> thank you bastid_raZor /
[04:04] <crucialhoax> in a terminal type: uname -a and post the output in here. It will only be one line
[04:04] <bastid_raZor> HandyGandy: good luck.
[04:04] <Circs> crucialhoax, Yeah I was reading what the devs were doing to fix this and wow, over my head but it seems like the keyboard does a poor job of identifying itself to the system and they're catching its error and handling it.
[04:05] <queso> How can I modify the Gnome Guest session?
[04:05] <TGP1994> @bastid_raZor: Yes, actually, thank you very much. You know what would be cool, is if we try to install webmin via the apt repository, it suggests ebox instead.
[04:05] <bastid_raZor> TGP1994: heh, nice
[04:05] <crucialhoax> Circs: Likewise. I do not understand some of that stuff. But lets see what kernel you are currently running. type uname -a in a terminal
[04:06] <Circs> crucialhoax,  2.6.31-20 and it looks like they committed the change in .33 rc4 I think?
[04:07] <crucialhoax> Circs: 2.6.32-14.19 is the kernel which was patched.
[04:07] <crucialhoax> Circs: Which is the kernel in Lucid
[04:08] <xae8koo> Hello
[04:08] <Circs> crucialhoax, Well thanks, I'll start downloading right away
[04:08] <CloudLevi> Gnea: Ah, good...you're still here
[04:08] <xae8koo> What is the name of the program that generates pronoucable passwords?
[04:08] <crucialhoax> Circs: Please post back so we know the results :)
[04:09] <crucialhoax> xae8koo: Hello :)
[04:09] <Circs> crucialhoax, I probably won't finish that up tonight, but when I do I'll let people know. :)
[04:09] <CloudLevi> Gnea: so Windows is gone =/ I managed to locate the ISO, however...but now I have a new problem. the "Make Startup Disk" window has an exclamation point next to my 1GB
[04:09] <crucialhoax> Circs: perfect
[04:09] <xae8koo> crucialhoax: hello
[04:11] <Gnea> CloudLevi: I don't know what you're referring to...
[04:12] <CloudLevi> Gnea: the USB startup disk creation program thing
[04:12] <CloudLevi> Gnea: it's got an alert icon next to my only working gigabyte USB drive
[04:12] <axisys> anyone know of a sharepoint like tool for ubuntu or some tool that can work directly with sharepoint?
[04:12] <Gnea> CloudLevi: and?
[04:12] <crucialhoax> CloudLevi: Is the drive formatted?
[04:12] <airtonix> CloudLevi, it means you need to format the usb stick.
[04:12] <axisys> i dislike sharepoint
[04:12] <CloudLevi> yeah, I formatted it twice
[04:13] <crucialhoax> CloudLevi: Hmm...
[04:13] <airtonix> CloudLevi, di you use gparted to remove existing partitions and create new ones on it formatted as fat32 ?
[04:13] <CloudLevi> the other one won't format DXX
[04:13] <Gnea> CloudLevi: I don't know what the ! is supposed to mean (haven't ran into that problem)
[04:13] <themusicgod1> during install a bunch of packages failed to install including libpam0g and passwd
[04:13] <CloudLevi> airtonix: where is that? e-e
[04:13] <crucialhoax> CloudLevi: After you reformetted did you unplug and replug?
[04:13] <CloudLevi> crucialhoax: uhhhhhh *does it*
[04:13] <CloudLevi> don't remember
[04:14] <airtonix> CloudLevi, i dont think gparted is installed by default, but you can get it with apt-get/synaptics, after installing it'll be in your system > admin menu
[04:14] <themusicgod1> the problem was that update-manager had a bug in the old version(which was replaced by update-manager) so now theoretically you'd think apt should be able to successfully install those broken packages, but apt-get install --reinstall refuses to reinstall passwd
[04:14] <crucialhoax> Im not sure if it matters but hey, checking the simple things.
[04:14] <themusicgod1> is there a way to install it anyway?
[04:14] <themusicgod1> (aptitude shows it as successfully installed)
[04:14] <themusicgod1> dpkg -i maybe?
[04:15] <airtonix> CloudLevi, you might be able to use the disk utility tool in the system > admin menu though (that should be there right now)
[04:15] <CloudLevi> dis/reconnect after format has no effect
[04:15] <Jeanvaljean> hello ,is there anyone fluent at network or website?
[04:15] <CloudLevi> airtonix: uh...does that always automatically try to scan my whole hard drive because it locked up last time ><
[04:15] <airtonix> CloudLevi, try running palimpsest. 1) alt + f2 2) palimpsest
[04:15] <crucialhoax> CloudLevi: install gparted and try formatting the USB drive from there if you'd like. *sudo apt-get install gparted*
[04:15] <Jeanvaljean> I want to download some documents from a website,but I met some problem
[04:16] <airtonix> CloudLevi, "scann whole hardrive" ? which one are you referring to ?
[04:16] <Jeanvaljean> I use wget
[04:16] <Jeanvaljean> to mirror the whole site
[04:16] <CloudLevi> airtonix: the HDD =3=
[04:16] <Jeanvaljean> but wget can't recognize the java scripts
[04:16] <airtonix> !enter | Jeanvaljean
[04:16] <Random832> anyone remember "twin"?
[04:16] <themusicgod1> Jeanvaljean: curl
[04:17] <airtonix> CloudLevi, which program are you talking about ? palimpset or gparted ?
[04:17] <Jeanvaljean> wget can only download the URLs from page 1 on the site,but page 2,page 3 can't
[04:18] <TGP1994> Ok, so how do I get php working in ebox? How about ftp?
[04:18] <Jeanvaljean> and the page 2,page 3.....'s URLs are the same as the page 1
[04:18] <themusicgod1> should I risk restarting the system if aptitude says there's no broken packages even after update-manager failed?
[04:18] <greezmunkey> themusicgod1: does curl work in conjunction with wget?
[04:18] <themusicgod1> greezmunkey: curl works instead of wget
[04:18] <CloudLevi> getting Gparted...and....for the record...that's about the last download I can get. I'm having to reinstall because I thought this was a temporary install and partitioned THREE GIGS for it DX
[04:19] <TGP1994> bastid_raZor, any ideas?
[04:19] <greezmunkey> themusicgod1: I'll read up on it then, thanks :)
[04:19] <crucialhoax> CloudLevi: Is it in VirtualBox?
[04:19] <CloudLevi> what's that?
[04:19] <crucialhoax> Take that as no haha
[04:19] <airtonix> crucialhoax, obviously not.
[04:19] <CloudLevi> lol
[04:20] <TGP1994> bastid_raZor?
[04:20] <crucialhoax> CloudLevi: Okay that will be fine, should not need anything else lol. After it installs let us know.
[04:20] <CloudLevi> "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[04:20] <bastid_raZor> TGP1994: i'm looking for a howto on ebox.
[04:20] <TGP1994> ok
[04:21] <airtonix> CloudLevi, i just ran palimpsest, and i can remove partitions on my usbs sticks and create new ones and format them...
[04:21] <TGP1994> thanks.
[04:21] <TGP1994> bastid_raZor, I'm kind of almost regretting getting rid of webmin, since it was working ok, and it may have just been php's fault.
[04:21] <airtonix> bastid_raZor, you mean apart from the one on the ubuntu wiki ?
[04:22] <TGP1994> @airtonix: I don't think it has anything about php there.
[04:22] <CloudLevi> crucialhoax: "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[04:22] <armence> Hey all, I need to get a new laptop (with ubuntu on it) and I was wondering what companies I should be looking at. Can anyone help me out?
[04:22] <sharKed> whois nitro
[04:22] <crucialhoax> CloudLevi: airtonix stated a diff way.
[04:22] <CloudLevi> crucialhoax: ;-; I'm running out of space here DX
[04:22] <crucialhoax> armence: Systems 76
[04:22] <CloudLevi> airtonix: where get? e-e
[04:22] <armence> crucialhoax, Are they the only ones?
[04:23] <CloudLevi> airtonix: same as before?
[04:23] <maple1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf68vCaFYkE rate my song
[04:23] <airtonix> CloudLevi, ? palimpsest should already be installed
[04:23] <CloudLevi> airtonix: YAY
[04:23] <armence> crucialhoax, And if they are, do they make good products?
[04:23] <crucialhoax> armence: There is a few more. Dell sells them, there is one more company, cant think of it.
[04:23] <CloudLevi> airtonix: oO where would it be?
[04:23] <airtonix> CloudLevi, try running palimpsest. 1) alt + f2 2) palimpsest
[04:23] <Jeanvaljean> curl works? let me google
[04:23] <crucialhoax> systems 76? I assume so yes.
[04:23] <Jeanvaljean> the website is www.e696.com
[04:23] <Jeanvaljean> a chinese website
[04:24] <airtonix> !enter > Jeanvaljean
[04:24] <CloudLevi> airtonix: now what? =/
[04:24] <airtonix> CloudLevi, profit ?
[04:24] <CloudLevi> airtonix: Eh? oO I just hit erase, aye? *erases* So...now what? format again?
[04:25] <zmef> hello all i am having a strange problem with synaptic/apt seeming to want to connect to a proxy on localhost on port 5000
[04:25] <Jeanvaljean> for example,I want to download all the files,like this :http://www.e696.com/articlelist.aspx?typeid=021704
[04:25] <airtonix> CloudLevi, make sure the stick is not mounted. then click on the device entry and then the 'erase' icon in the toolbar
[04:25] <zmef> and returning 404 errors when i try to update/upgrade
[04:26] <airtonix> CloudLevi, then create a new partition and format it as fat32
[04:26] <crucialhoax> airtonix: He left.
[04:26] <TGP1994> bastid_raZor, Ok, no more ebox for me :P No where near as good as Webmin, sorry.
[04:26] <airtonix> ...
[04:26] <mazda01> whats the easiest way to copy stuff into a root owned folder using a gui sftp window?
[04:26] <CloudLevi> airtonix: you sure? I don't think 32 is available
[04:26] <airtonix> TGP1994, yet.
[04:26] <Jeanvaljean> and there's something funny errors.when I download http://xxxxxx.com/data/xxxx.pdf,it can works
[04:26] <crucialhoax> Or not
[04:26] <CloudLevi> airtonix: nope...just FAT
[04:27] <TGP1994> airtonix, what?
[04:27] <Jeanvaljean> but when I tried to download http://xxxxx.com/data  it provides "403 forbidden" error
[04:27] <mazda01> example: i am logged into my main machine as daniel. my server downstairs has a ssh server running. I went to connect to server, chose SSH, but when I am in there, I can't extract an archieve into /var/www/ because it is owned by root. any thoughts?
[04:27] <crucialhoax> Jeanvaljean: Why use wget? Does the browser not download it?
[04:27] <Jeanvaljean> any kind guys help me?
[04:27] <CloudLevi> airtonix: Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[04:27] <CloudLevi> Total number of sectors (2015232) not a multiple of sectors per track (62)!
[04:27] <crucialhoax> mazda01: sudo <then command>
[04:28] <CloudLevi> Add mtools_skip_check=1 to your .mtoolsrc file to skip this test
[04:28] <mazda01> crucialhoax, are you kidding me?
[04:28] <crucialhoax> ?
[04:28] <Jeanvaljean> there're thousands of documents in that site,so use browser will waste a lot of time
[04:28] <airtonix> CloudLevi, your stick is damaged then.
[04:28] <CloudLevi> airtonix: it's always worked FINE
[04:28] <crucialhoax> mazda01: ?
[04:28] <stealth-> where is the compiz settings stored?
[04:28] <airtonix> CloudLevi, you assume they never break down
[04:29] <airtonix> stealth-, gconf
[04:29] <TGP1994> airtonix, what were you talking about?
[04:29] <mazda01> crucialhoax, if you read my post, I am within a nautilus window, there's no sudo nothing. basically I am looking to be able to use a gui to be able to move stuff around on the remote server which does not allow root access.
[04:29] <crucialhoax> CloudLevi: Plug it in and see if it mounts, then try to transfer files to it. just a thought.
[04:29] <CloudLevi> airtonix: in five minutes???
[04:29] <Panopticon36> ultra penis
[04:29] <Panopticon36> 8[04:29] <airtonix> TGP1994, <TGP1994> bastid_raZor, Ok, no more ebox for me :P No where near as good as Webmin, sorry.
[04:29] <CloudLevi> airtonix: I just erased some images off of it
[04:29] <mazda01> crucialhoax, it doesn't allow root to login via ssh is what I mean.
[04:30] <TGP1994> airtonix, oh, so it's a WIP?
[04:30] <crucialhoax> mazda01: I read the first one after the second. Apologies. What if you open nautilus as root?
[04:30] <CloudLevi> yah....formatting it in the Computer window works... =/
[04:30] <h00k> !ohmy | Panopticon36
[04:30] <flansuse> Is it possible to install tomboy 1.2.0 on any release before Lucid?
[04:30] <crucialhoax> mazda01: If the SSH server does not allow a root login I am not sure how to copy folders into a root owned directory.
[04:30] <CloudLevi> but it still doesn't operate
[04:30] <airtonix> !info gnotes
[04:31] <mazda01> crucialhoax, tried that, once nautilus is opened as root, there is no option to "connect to server", so how do I access the ssh server then using the sftp protocol?
[04:31] <[Qwizie]> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[04:31] <airtonix> !find gnotes
[04:31] <flansuse> It looks like Lucid will have 1.2.0 by default, but what about prior Ubuntu releases? I found no PPA that has 1.2.0 for Karmic and below.
[04:31] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[04:31] <airtonix> !find g-notes
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[04:31] <crucialhoax> mazda01: does the ssh command not work?
[04:31] <h00k> !op | Panopticon36
[04:31] <TGP1994> lol
[04:32] <CloudLevi> airtonix: okay, it's formatted
[04:32] <flansuse> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomboy <--- This shows only 1.0.0 available for Karmic, and Lucid is the only one that has Tombo 1.2.0 available.
[04:32] <Guest99465> Is it possible to use my desktop's two monitors as secondary and tertiary monitors over the network?
[04:32] <mazda01> crucialhoax, you may not be understanding what I am trying to do. I can login via a terminal all I want and use sudo. I am looking to be able to do it with a GUI.
[04:32] <Jef91> how do I extract a .zip from cli?
[04:32] <JimmyNeutron> unzip <filename>
[04:33] <airtonix> CloudLevi, congratulations. try the usb boot disk thing again.
[04:33] <Timothy_> Hello I have installed and reinstalled Ubuntu to work along side win 7 and I am now having a problem with Grub?
[04:33] <franl> Jef91, use "unzip -l filename" to see what's in it without extracting anything.
[04:33] <bastid_raZor> mazda01: where in /var/www are you going to put these files? i had the same issue until i made a symlink to the destination folder .. ~/public_www  -> /var/www/photos   ..on the remote box
[04:33] <CloudLevi> airtonix: still has that exclamation point AND the ISO won't take
[04:33] <Guest99465> Timothy_: using Wubi?
[04:33] <crucialhoax> mazda01: Well if it works one way, compromise. Or wait for someone else who can assist. If it works through the terminal then what is the purpose of a gui?
[04:33] <Timothy_> Yes I am
[04:34] <mazda01> crucialhoax, basically use nautilus (or some other GUI) to graphically move files around on my main server downstairs. currently it's only running ssh which allows access to ALL folders on the server. because samba is only sharing come folders. I do not have a ftp server setup sharing the /var/www/ folder
[04:34] <CloudLevi> airtonix: the ISO isn't showing up in the list box thing
[04:34] <Guest99465> When you update the linux kernel headers and you use Wubi everything gets screwed up
[04:34] <crucialhoax> mazda01: looks like bastid_raZor has a suggestion.
[04:34] <Guest99465> You're going to have to manually boot the last working kernel
[04:34] <Guest99465> and then remove the newly updated one
[04:34] <mazda01> crucialhoax, because I want to see if it can be done. have you heard of winscp in windows? I am basically wondering if there is a similiar program in linux
[04:35] <mazda01> bastid_raZor, i am trying to put it right in the /var/www/ folder
[04:35] <TGP1994> So, does anyone have any ideas for figuring out why my php is not working?
[04:35] <airtonix> CloudLevi, what filesystem did you format the stick as ? what ISO are you trying to use ?
[04:35] <Guest99465> The best way to run Windows 7 on the same computer as a Ubuntu install is by repartitioning, and Windows can do this.
[04:35] <Flannel> mazda01: FTP/SFTP/Samba/etc doesn't have a concept of "sudo", what you should do is modify your permissions to allow you to write to /var/www (adding yourself to www-data group and chowning /var/www as www-data:www-data, and g+w would be one way)
[04:35] <CloudLevi> airtonix: Ubuntu 9.10 and FAT "32 bit version"
[04:35] <airtonix> !enter > Guest99465
[04:36] <Flannel> TGP1994: "Doesn't work" meaning what?  What do you get when you visit a php file?
[04:36] <TGP1994> Flannel, when I try to view a page with php stuff in it, nothing shows up. This is an html file, with the <?php ?> tags in it.
[04:36] <Guest99465> Is it possible to use my desktop's two monitors as secondary and tertiary monitors over the network?
[04:36] <mazda01> Flannel, my /var folder is not writable by any group, only root. my /var/www/ is again only writable by root. they both have rwxr-xr-x
[04:37] <CloudLevi> airtonix: oh, it's the volume label that made it not work. no spaces allowed. ^^;
[04:37] <JasonGiedymin> first thing you want to do: 1.) verify apache2 is running 2.) verify php5 has been installed via apt-get or self compile 3.) verify php extensions work by calling phpinfo() in a test script (can be done via command line)
[04:37] <crucialhoax> mazda01: He was suggesting to change the permissions to allow others to read and write.
[04:37] <TGP1994> JasonGiedymin, who are you talking to?
[04:37] <airtonix> Guest99465, not as you would normally, but you can see if synergy or the X11 forwarding helps you
[04:37] <CloudLevi> airtonix: but they STILL both have an exclamation point!!!
[04:37] <Timothy_> Yes I'm running ubuntu on a separate hdd on my system I have win & RAIDed
[04:37] <findlay> how do I change the background image for the gnome lock screen?
[04:37] <TGP1994> Flannel, any suggestions?
[04:37] <CloudLevi> airtonix: I got my other flash drive working...
[04:37] <airtonix> CloudLevi, no idea
[04:38] <Timothy_> How do get the earlier kernel?
[04:38] <Arsin> Can you RAID-0 with two hard drives that have the same architecture but different sizes (GB wise)
[04:38] <mazda01> Flannel, is that a security risk in any way? i wonder why it's like that by default?
[04:38] <flansuse> Arsin: I believe they need to be equal.
[04:38] <Flannel> mazda01: Because www-data is only for apache, and doesn't exist by default, etc
[04:38] <razorbuzz> So...Anybody else have a problem with the metacity-common package that just came downstream?
[04:39] <flansuse> Arsin: Or it might work, but you will only get as much as the lower drive's capacity X 2.
[04:39] <mazda01> crucialhoax, thanks. i realize you're trying to help but I can read, and I do understand a lot of things. you're making it seem like you think I am some kind of newbie
[04:39] <airtonix> findlay, do you actually have a background there to begin with (my lock screen is just black when the login panel shows up)
[04:39] <zmef> why won't synaptic update? anyone
[04:39] <zmef> Bueller?
[04:39] <Flannel> TGP1994: Interesting.  What filename is it?
[04:39] <flansuse> razorbuzz: What version is it? I don't remember any recent metacity update on my machine.
[04:39] <mazda01> Flannel, so adding me to www-data group and chowning /var/www/ is not uncommon?
[04:39] <pinoyoragon> after i installed libnss-ldap i wonder why there's no /etc/libnss-ldap.conf file?
[04:39] <TGP1994> Flannel, index.html
[04:39] <crucialhoax> mazda01: Not at all.
[04:40] <findlay> airtonix: no, but on the last ubuntu version I remember finding an /etc config where I customized it :(
[04:40] <Guest99465> Timothy_: Couldn't tell you, happened a long time ago to me and I had trouble figuring it out... just google it, that's what I did.
[04:40] <razorbuzz> Unsure, can only get to a shell and my apt-get history is blank.  But it autoremoved ubuntu-desktop, et al'.
[04:40] <ziesemer_> What does a default install of xbuntu 9.10 use for an xorg.conf, if any ?
[04:40] <airtonix> findlay, are you positive ? (i dont remember ever being able to do this) I also think the lock screen is controlled by either gnome-power-manager or gnome-screensaver
[04:40] <flansuse> razorbuzz: aptitude show metacity-common
[04:40] <Jeanvaljean> crying...
[04:40] <findlay> airtonix: yeah
[04:41] <CloudLevi> airtonix: oh mother of all... =_=;;;;;;;;; I've been trying to get half an ISO to work all this time...
[04:41] <crucialhoax> mazda01: What were the permissions of the folder you were trying to access again? owned by root but what did other uses and the group have?
[04:41] <CloudLevi> airtonix: which means my Google Chrome downloads folder is GONE...
[04:41] <razorbuzz> flansuse: On my Win7 partition at the moment.  brb
[04:41] <bastid_raZor> ziesemer_: 9.10 does not generate an xorg.conf but one can be used to manually set things
[04:42] <Timothy_> K I'll try thanks I thought this board was for something like Customer Service, I'm new to Linux, and I feeling my way around
[04:42] <mazda01> crucialhoax, they are owned by root and group root, permissions are rwxr-xr-x
[04:42] <TGP1994> Flannel, any other suggestions?
[04:42] <airtonix> findlay, idea here : http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/7004/
[04:42] <crucialhoax> mazda01: Thanks.
[04:42] <Flannel> TGP1994: You need to name it .php or add the html extension to your php handlers so apache knows
[04:42] <Flannel> mazda01: Nope
[04:42] <TGP1994> Flannel, how do I do the latter?
[04:42] <findlay> airtonix: yeah, I saw that
[04:42] <Flannel> TGP1994: Why do you want your html files to be treated like php files?
[04:43] <TGP1994> Flannel, because I think some software may work like that.
[04:43] <ziesemer_> bastid_raZor:  Thanks.  Having issues getting my touchpad working - was wondering if that would even be helpful.
[04:43] <TGP1994> JasonGiedymin: Why not?
[04:43] <airtonix> findlay, how bout this ? http://www.swanson.ukfsn.org/xss/
[04:43] <Flannel> TGP1994: Any software that works like that is stupid and broken.  I wouldn't trust it.  With that warning said (seriously, find better software), you edit /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf
[04:44] <Flannel> TGP1994: Because it means *every* html file you serve has to be parsed by php to make sure it doesn't have any php in it
[04:44] <TGP1994> Flannel: Alright, thank you.
[04:44] <airtonix> findlay, actually im not sure that applies to karmic
[04:44] <crucialhoax> mazda01: I think chmod 755 should work? correct Flannel
[04:44] <Flannel> TGP1994: Don't delete the php stuff, just add .html at the end
[04:44] <TGP1994> Ya
[04:45] <Flannel> crucialhoax, mazda01: change owner to www-data:www-data and give group write permissions (chomd g+w)
[04:45] <TGP1994> Flannel: So just a quick question, when I'm running with the .php extension, does any html I want to use need to be in the echo command?
[04:45] <mazda01> Flannel, did all that, now stuck on useradd command. can you help?
[04:45] <crucialhoax> Flannel: write without read?
[04:45] <airtonix> findlay, ok think i found something : open gconf-editor and goto : /apps/gnome-screensaver
[04:45] <Flannel> crucialhoax: They should be 755 by default, so you only have to add the write
[04:45] <mazda01> Flannel, i changed the group only to www-data and left the owner as root. i want to add myself to the www-data group
[04:46] <Flannel> mazda01: sudo adduser [youruser] www-data
[04:46] <mazda01> Flannel, my permissions are now this: drwxrwsr-x
[04:46] <crucialhoax> So 765? as 1 is write.
[04:46] <Flannel> mazda01: Then you'll need to log back in again for it to take effect for this terminal (groups [youruser] will verify)
[04:46] <Flannel> crucialhoax: write is 2, execute is 1.
[04:46] <TGP1994> Awesome, it works, thanks :)
[04:46] <Flannel> (read is 4)
[04:46] <crucialhoax> duh. haha I always confuse them. argh
[04:47] <Out_Cold> do I need X to use mplayer?
[04:47] <Flannel> crucialhoax: 775 instead of 755
[04:47] <crucialhoax> correct
[04:47] <mazda01> Flannel, yeah, groups doesn't show me yet. that stinks I have to log out and then back in again. i got soo much going on
[04:47] <Flannel> mazda01: groups should show you immediately
[04:47] <findlay> airtonix: you could start from here: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/NSA++GNOME+Lock+Screen?content=89014
[04:47] <Flannel> mazda01: You don't need to log out, you just need to log in (and the new terminal will have you, not the already-existing ones)
[04:47] <TheMozart> can I install ubuntu now, or shall I wait till 29 April for new version?
[04:48] <mazda01> Flannel, nope, it doesn't i did get a confirmation thought that I was added to the www-data group
[04:48] <Flannel> mazda01: If groups doesn't show you, you aren't successfully added
[04:48] <airtonix> findlay, yeah it seems the lock screen background is an aspect of a gtk theme. so you'd need a theme that has a lock screen background defined or a dedicated theme that just deals with the lock screen.
[04:48] <Flannel> mazda01: 'groups mazda' or whatnot, not just 'groups'
[04:48] <TheMozart> anyone? :)
[04:48] <john__> d
[04:48] <crucialhoax> TheMozart: It is completely your choice.
[04:48] <Flannel> TheMozart: You can install now, and upgrade in a few weeks
[04:48] <Out_Cold> TheMozart, if you install now, don't whine about crashes.... if you wait... then don't whine about that either :p
[04:48] <IdleOne> TheMozart: 9.10 yes, 10.04 is still beta
[04:49] <mazda01> Flannel, i exited that ssh terminal and opened a new one, now when I issue merely groups, I am in the www-data group. thanks
[04:49] <john__> OFFTOPIC: so i have a toothpick jammed in my foot and i cant really get it out (im scared of pulling too hard). should i go to a doctor? what should I do?
[04:49] <Guest99465> TheMozart: I had so much trouble with the beta I switched back
[04:49] <Flannel> mazda01: 'groups' on its own shows what your current terminal thinks, `groups username` shows what a new one would
[04:49] <bazhang> john__, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:49] <IdleOne> john__: like you stated. offtopic
[04:49] <Guest99465> john__: probably wouldn't hurt
[04:50] <mazda01> Flannel, ok, got it. that worked a treat! thanks
[04:50] <crucialhoax> mazda01: Can you use the gui now?
[04:51] <TheMozart> can I install ubuntu now, or shall I wait till 29 April for the final new version?
[04:52] <Guest99465> TheMozart: I'd wait. I had way too much trouble
[04:52] <dark_soul1> does ubuntu have patch tuesday like microsoft patch tuesday?
[04:52] <TheMozart> Guest99465: stop that!!!!
[04:52] <SuperMiguel> dark_soul1, lol
[04:52] <Guest99465> ?
[04:52] <TheMozart> Guest99465: im talking about latest FINAL version
[04:52] <mazda01> crucialhoax, yeap, now I can use the connect to server within Places, then chose SSH as protocol. then when i type in the ip of my server and my ssh port, then hit connect, i type in my passphrase, then i see my whole server within a gui window. then I can copy and paste all I want to /var/www/ folder
[04:52] <dark_soul1> SuperMiguel: so its released daily?
[04:52] <TheMozart> Guest99465: I can install 9.04 today
[04:53] <TheMozart> Guest99465: why are you saying 9.04 final is bad?
[04:53] <SuperMiguel> dark_soul1, depends... on new reseales yes... on 8.04 not really
[04:53] <Guest99465> I'm not saying 9.04 is bad
[04:53] <dark_soul1> SuperMiguel: how is security patch released for 8.04?
[04:53] <crucialhoax> mazda01: Great.
[04:53] <chadwin> when is the final vertion of ubuntu 10.04 is gonna be released?
[04:53] <crucialhoax> chadwin: 4/29/2010
[04:54] <Guest99465> TheMozart: I'm saying the 10.04 which will be released 29 april gave me trouble and I would stay with 9.10
[04:54] <chadwin> thank you so much
[04:54] <TheMozart> Guest99465: im gonna install 9.10.. why u say its faulty???
[04:54] <crucialhoax> !releases | chadwin
[04:54] <TheMozart> Guest99465: 10.04 hasnt been officially released yet
[04:54] <mazda01> crucialhoax, yeap, thanks
[04:54] <bazhang> TheMozart, he's not saying that
[04:54] <Guest99465> Oops.
[04:55] <crucialhoax> mazda01: Flannel did the work. I was confused with bit numbers for permissions lol
[04:55] <Guest99465> He's not talking about the beta
[04:55] <Guest99465> Sorry.
[04:55] <TheMozart> is this the latest Ubuntu I can download? ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[04:55] <bazhang> TheMozart, yes
[04:55] <Guest99465> TheMozart: yes
[04:55] <crucialhoax> NO
[04:55] <TheMozart> cool :)
[04:55] <Guest99465> Well
[04:55] <bazhang> crucialhoax, sure it is
[04:55] <h00k> TheMozart: that's the latest stable version's alternate installer
[04:55] <Guest99465> Latest stable release that's not beta or whatever
[04:56] <crucialhoax> alternate is a text based installer.
[04:56] <TheMozart> h00k: I want alternative so I can choose to encrypt file system when I install it
[04:56] <TheMozart> h00k: good idea?
[04:56] <crucialhoax> he wants ubuntu.9.10-desktop-i386.iso.beta
[04:56] <crucialhoax> he wants ubuntu.9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent*
[04:56] <h00k> TheMozart: the regular installer can do that also :)
[04:56] <Guest99465> TheMozart: the graphical install lets you encrypt the home directory too
[04:56] <h00k> TheMozart: since Karmic
[04:56] <TheMozart> crucialhoax: i rather get alterntaive so I can encrypt file system
[04:57] <crucialhoax> TheMozart: Ok, wasnt sure. I did not want you to waste your time.
[04:57] <Zenker> ok im on live cd and ready to install 10 over 9.10 (wiping out 9.10, im looking at the partition manager, what do i need 2 do?
[04:57] <TheMozart> h00k: so which is the better version to download?
[04:57] <TheMozart> crucialhoax: waste my money?????????????????  i thought its free?
[04:57] <switch10_> Zenker: !lucid
[04:57] <crucialhoax> time.... I said time...
[04:57] <Guest99465> TrueCrypt is real good at encrypting the file system
[04:58] <ishmandoorebop> i just installed lxde and I am trying to put chrome in my application launcher bar. The problem is, I can't find the right .desktop file. Any ideas?
[04:58] <TheMozart> h00k: so the desktop version will allow me to encrypt my ubuntu as I install?
[04:58] <crucialhoax> TheMozart: Re-read my post. it says time, not money.
[04:58] <TheMozart> crucialhoax: ah yeah lol
[04:58] <TheMozart> ill grab the alternative
[04:59] <switch10_> TheMozart: I always use the alternate cds to install.  I prefer the text based installer
[04:59] <switch10_> TheMozart: its all preference
[05:00] <TheMozart> switch10_: me too
[05:00] <TheMozart> h00k: if I choose to encrypt as I install, then can I also tell Ubuntu not to have username and password when  loading?
[05:01] <TheMozart> anyone know if thats possible?
[05:01] <IdleOne> TheMozart: you mean not have it auto login? yes
[05:01] <switch10_> TheMozart: use a blank password.
[05:02] <TheMozart> IdleOne: yeah cause I wont need it as Ubuntu will ask me for the CRYPT passwrd as it loads
[05:02] <TheMozart> switch10_: i can use blan password and Ubuntu will never ask me for login username and password?
[05:03] <switch10_> TheMozart: yes, but I misunderstood your question.  You can setup an auto login during installation
[05:03] <TheMozart> brb
[05:03] <switch10_> TheMozart: just passwrd
[05:05] <bahodir> hi guys
[05:06] <bahodir> can anyone please help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9095949#post9095949
[05:06] <bahodir> thanks
[05:07] <switch10_> bahodir: if you want help with the lucid beta go to ubuntu+1.
[05:07] <bahodir> thanks
[05:16] <researcher1> does someone know how to install MOODLE package?
[05:17] <adrian_> hi, anyone know if there is a application to control network bandwidth usage per each process?
[05:23] <daveman> howdy
[05:26] <ramontayag> Vim users: what plugin should I use to auto adjust a pseudo table (like how you make tables in textile) to make the pipe characters align? Here's a video if you want to see. This was done in TextMate. http://railscasts.com/episodes/159-more-on-cucumber Look at 4:29 - 4:31
[05:26] <ramontayag> oops
[05:26] <ramontayag> sorry, wrong room
[05:26] <greezmunkey> adrian_: trickle
[05:29] <pinoyoragon> Hi. What command should i invoke in my client to check whether my ldap server works, before i edit the pam.d files
[05:30] <servvs> ls
[05:31] <greezmunkey> pinoyoragon: in a terminal, getent passwd {username} should provide output.
[05:35] <g0aliath> when you telnet into a mail server, what is the mail command?   is is mail To: or is it something else or does it depend on the mail server that you log into
[05:36] <pinoyoragon> greezmunkey: i'll expect the output should be coming from my ldap server and not from the client right?
[05:36] <arthur> hi. when I install ati driver fglrx, my screen goes black at startup. Anything I can do?
[05:37] <SwedeMike> g0aliath: helo <whatever>     mail from:      rcpt to:
[05:37] <g0aliath> Sedemike:  thanks man
[05:37] <TGP1994> Does anyone here know how to check why I am banned from specific freenode channels?
[05:37] <g0aliath> SwedeMike: thanks man for the helo
[05:39] <stealth-> If I was to set up a client with the ubuntu beta 2 for 10.04, because he didn't want to wait, if he did his updates, would he have essentially the same release as what comes out 21 days from now?
[05:39] <stealth-> or is there more involved he has to do?
[05:40] <ZykoticK9> stealth-, want to join #ubuntu+1, so i can give an answer...
[05:40] <raj> omega__:  EE told you
[05:40] <Flannel> stealth-: Yes.  But you should use #ubuntu+1 for questions about development releases
[05:40] <stealth-> ZykoticK9: sprru. ,y nad
[05:40] <omega__> hello ubuntu
[05:41] <stealth-> opps, meant: sorry, my bad :)
[05:41] <omega__> i need help with bridge connecting
[05:41] <raj> omega__:  see told you :) im always here too :)
[05:41] <omega__> yeah i no how to use the server thingy now lol.
[05:41] <omega__> Can anyone help with bridging?
[05:42] <raj> omega__:  Mint is the same as ubuntu. so if you get help in ubuntu its the same as mint :) both are baed on debian
[05:42] <omega__> ok.
[05:42] <omega__> ubuntu got there name changed?
[05:42] <lsemple> hey does gparted's 'check' feature remove data without asking me ? or is it safe to use for ntfs ?
[05:43] <arthur> where do I go for technical support?
[05:43] <Flannel> !mintsupport | raj, omega__
[05:43] <crucialhoax> omega__: That was a users name lool
[05:43] <omega__> anyone able to help with bridgeing?
[05:43] <crucialhoax> arthur: here...
[05:43] <randomusr_> can't play dvd's even with ffmpeg, the full ugly set and restricted codecs..... why is this?
[05:43] <omega__> yeah i see that now lol
[05:44] <crucialhoax> randomusr_: one sec, I may have an answer
[05:44] <omega__> do u no how to bridge ethernet connections crucial?
[05:44] <crucialhoax> randomusr_: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/musicvideophotos/C/video-dvd.html
[05:44] <crucialhoax> omega__: Unfortunately, no =/
[05:44] <omega__> does anyone?
[05:45] <randomusr_> crucialhoax, been there done that
[05:46] <omega__> Need help with bridge connections
[05:46] <crucialhoax> randomusr_: what program are you using?
[05:46] <arthur> When I install the proprietary driver offered by ubuntu for ati graphics card, my screen goes black right after startup. Any suggestions that don't involve using the terminal?
[05:46] <crucialhoax> will totem or vlc?
[05:46] <randomusr_> vlc, mplayer
[05:47] <crucialhoax> any specific errors?
[05:47] <omega__> please i need help anybody please im getting really angry
[05:48] <datz> omega__: did you consult google yet?
[05:48] <datz> seems like lot of help docs/tutorials
[05:48] <randomusr_> crucialhoax, no errors
[05:48] <randomusr_> they just die
[05:48] <crucialhoax> omega__: there are the #Netfilter and ##networking channels
[05:48] <datz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[05:49] <crucialhoax> randomusr_: Hm. all ffmpeg plugins and gstreamer plugins? what about restricted formats?
[05:49] <omega__> im not reading anymore walkthroughs or guides no of them helped
[05:49] <randomusr_> crucialhoax, yup
[05:49] <datz> omega__: did you install any bridging utilities?
[05:50] <omega__> yeah
[05:51] <crucialhoax> randomusr_: so everything is installed? does the dvd player play other dvd's or mount cd's? *just checking*
[05:51] <werril> ae
[05:52] <datz> omega__: have you also checked the forums?
[05:52] <randomusr_> crucialhoax, the drives work fine, but ubuntu won't play any dvd's I've tried 3 so far
[05:53] <ZykoticK9> randomusr_, fyi dvd playback isn't in ubuntu-restricted-extras see http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/enable-dvd-video-playback for two methods to add dvd playback
[05:53] <omega__> yes i have
[05:53] <crucialhoax> randomusr_: If you followed the same instructions that I did and have the exact same packages installed I dont understand.
[05:53] <crucialhoax> randomusr_: 9.10 rihgt?
[05:54] <crucialhoax> right*
[05:54] <datz> omega__: you might post there, unfortunatly I don't have experience doing this
[05:54] <datz> (bridging)
[05:55] <crucialhoax> or leave, that works too.
[05:57] <greezmunkey> heh
[05:59] <greezmunkey> omega__: what do you need to bridge? Wireless to ethernet?
[05:59] <omega__> ethernet to ethernet
[06:00] <greezmunkey> omega__: Are you using network manager?
[06:00] <crashdata> finally got my wireless on my netbook to work
[06:00] <greezmunkey> crashdata: nice :)
[06:00] <omega__> i dont think so
[06:00] <crucialhoax> crashdata: congrats :)
[06:00] <crashdata> thanks :)
[06:00] <omega__> i dont think thats it
[06:01] <crucialhoax> omega__: by the time what do you see?
[06:01] <omega__> some wierd white sign
[06:01] <crucialhoax> hover over it
[06:02] <omega__> wired network connection auto eth0 active
[06:02] <greezmunkey> omega__: What is the purpose, what is it that you need to have happen?
[06:02] <crucialhoax> sounds like network manager
[06:02] <greezmunkey> crucialhoax: I think so!
[06:03] <omega__> to bridge the connection so i can have an internet connection on my 360
[06:03] <greezmunkey> omega__: simple :)
[06:03] <omega__> ok
[06:04] <greezmunkey> omega__: does your 360 have the ability to get an IP address automatically? Like DHCP?
[06:04] <omega__> im not sure, but i think so y?
[06:04] <crucialhoax> greezmunkey: Yes they do. they have manual config as well.
[06:05] <omega__> yeah
[06:06] <omega__> anyways?
[06:06] <greezmunkey> omega__: all you have to do is select the interface that your internet is on, and select "available to all users"
[06:07] <greezmunkey> omega__: there's one more bit, but I'll have to enable my eth int to see the interface, hold a sec.
[06:07] <omega__> by doing that go to edit connections?
[06:07] <greezmunkey> omega__: yes
[06:08] <omega__> hello?
[06:08] <Gletob> Hey I'm looking to host the package files that I download on one Ubuntu desktop, and use them to update another ubuntu desktop.  Does anyone know of a way to do this?  No I do not have a server running, at the moment at least.
[06:09] <greezmunkey1> omega__: heh I knocked my wireless down, brb
[06:09] <Flannel> Gletob: Just one other machine?  Is this going to be a regularthing, or one time?
[06:09] <switch10_> Gletob: sudo dpkg --get-selections > a_text_file
[06:09] <crucialhoax> Gletob: As in you downloaded a file but you need it on a different system?
[06:09] <omega__> ok
[06:10] <crucialhoax> omega__: Did you get it?
[06:10] <omega__> not yet
[06:10] <greezmunkey1> omega__: yea, click on the interface that your 360 will connect to and under ipv4, choose method "shared to other computers"
[06:11] <Flannel> !aptoncd | omega__
[06:11] <switch10_> Gletob: then to reinstall them on the other machine    sudo dpkg --set-selections < a_text_file
[06:11] <switch10_> *install
[06:11] <greezmunkey1> kk
[06:12] <wh> hello everyone
[06:12] <crucialhoax> Flannel: I believe that Gletob needed that lol
[06:12] <Flannel> oops
[06:12] <Flannel> !aptoncd | Gletob
[06:13] <greezmunkey1> jo
[06:13] <omega__> i think i git it greezmunkey
[06:13] <omega__> got*
[06:13] <Gletob> Flannel, switch10_ , crucialhoax   soory like a regular thing over the network so I don't have to download 300 MiB every time I update the beta, on each machine.
[06:14] <Flannel> Gletob: You're probably looking for apt-proxy or apt-cacher then
[06:14] <greezmunkey> omega__: yeah, it's pretty easy, but you may have to dink with it a bit to get what you want
[06:14] <Gletob> Something like that
[06:14] <Flannel> Gletob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[06:14] <Flannel> Gletob: but aptonCD wouldn't make you have to download, just requires the use of sneakernet
[06:15] <omega__> it took me over an hour to do that?
[06:15] <omega__> wth?
[06:15] <greezmunkey> omega__: does it work?
[06:15] <omega__> i think so lol i gotta 30min xbl update
[06:16] <Gletob> Flannel, Yeah but Sneakernet is a lot less efficient when your pushing to 4 other machines, all at once.
[06:16] <greezmunkey> omega__: look at it this way, now you can do it in seconds, and help someone else out that wants to do the same thing. It was not a waste of your time.
[06:16] <Flannel> Gletob: Right, which is why I asked if it were a single machine and a single time, or more and/or regularly ;)
[06:17] <Gletob> Oops I'm sorry Flannel, but yeah I'm planning on doing this regularly with multiple machines.
[06:18] <Flannel> Gletob: Then apt-proxy is exactly what you're looking for
[06:19] <xiven> Why does aptitude install a web software into /usr/share?
[06:21] <greezmunkey1> s
[06:21] <greezmunkey> pidgin is pretty cool
[06:22] <WebRat> hey peoples
[06:22] <crucialhoax> Flannel: How does apt-cache work? or is that ot? I am assuming the link you supplied is documented well.
[06:22] <WebRat> just about to try a live ununtu cd
[06:23] <WebRat> just need to ask a few questions
[06:23] <jasonmchristos> ok
[06:23] <Flannel> crucialhoax: 'apt-cache' or apt-proxy or 'apt-cacher'?
[06:23] <tangji> hello every body,i have a question for  how do i  associate  my .odp  to my program
[06:24] <tangji> hello every body,i have a question for  how do i  associate .odp  file  to my program
[06:24] <mneptok> !repeat
[06:24] <WebRat> will ubuntu support my graphics and wireless?
[06:24] <tangji> when user click  odp file ,use my program to open this file;
[06:24] <crucialhoax> WebRat: What wireless and graphics card does your system use?
[06:24] <pk__> !repeat
[06:24] <pk__> !repeat
[06:24] <pk__> !repeat
[06:24] <pk__> !repeat
[06:24] <FloodBot2> pk__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <pk__> !repeat
[06:24] <pk__> good
[06:25] <SandGorgon> anybody know of a cheap 5ghz wireless-N usb adapter .. which works in ubuntu ?
[06:25] <greezmunkey> WebRat: that depends on your hardware, check at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:25] <crucialhoax> SandGorgon: Google, my friend. ;)
[06:25] <tangji> any body can answer my question
[06:25] <hunahpu> SandGorgon: any cheap wireless usb adapter should work just fine
[06:25] <WebRat> graphics is geforce g102m cuda 512gb and im not sure about the wireless
[06:25] <crucialhoax> tangji: More specific please.
[06:26] <hunahpu> !patience | tangji
[06:26] <SandGorgon> hunahpu, crucialhoax I'm specifically looking for the 5ghz variety and has reasonable linux support
[06:26] <greezmunkey> WebRat: You should check the Wiki
[06:26] <crucialhoax> WebRat: nVidia is usually supported. By the question I assume that you are not running Linux so I do not know about wireless.
[06:26] <crucialhoax> greezmunkey: Agreed.
[06:27] <WebRat> its been a few years since i ran linux crucialhoax
[06:27] <tangji> i want associate openoffice  .odp file to my program,when  user  click odp file  ,how can use my program open this file
[06:27] <greezmunkey> crucialhoax: I don't like looking at that wiki, most of my stuff isn't supported. It causes me great pains in the wallet.
[06:27] <WebRat> thats why im nervous i know how badly i can screw things up if i get them wrong
[06:28] <tangji> modify /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[06:28] <greezmunkey> WebRat: not so much
[06:28] <Gletob> Hey everybody: Thanks a lot Apt-proxy looks great, and it'll be a great reason for me to justify bringing my server back on line, Everyone have a great day/night/afternoon.
[06:28] <chd> I need to make a ghost image of a windows machine from ubuntu. anyone know of a way I can do this?
[06:28] <crucialhoax> Gletob: Cya :)
[06:28] <WebRat> what boot loader do i need to use?
[06:29] <crucialhoax> tangji: right click on the file and choose the open with.
[06:29] <hunahpu> chd: you can do it with "dd", you will need a large hard drive; equally or larger in size as your windows hard drive
[06:29] <WebRat> side by side with windows 7
[06:29] <greezmunkey> WebRat: you are talking about live cd, right?
[06:29] <WebRat> yep but i do want to install
[06:30] <StopSign> create a partition in windows then install in that part
[06:30] <chd> hunahpu, google "dd"?
[06:30] <greezmunkey> WebRat: I suggest that you really dig into at least a couple of howtos before you start, just to be safe. Unless you don't care about your win7 partition.
[06:30] <hunahpu> chd: better, type "man dd" in your terminal
[06:30] <WebRat> already done StopSign
[06:31] <xiven> Is PostGreSQL a stand-alone Database ?
[06:31] <WebRat> which bootloader should i use?
[06:31] <greezmunkey> WebRat: side by side, or Wubi install, there is a differance!
[06:31] <crucialhoax> tangji: Did you get it?
[06:32] <WebRat> is wubi any good?
[06:32] <crucialhoax> WebRat: If you use wubi, it installs ubuntu without touching your system. And you can remove ubuntu from add / remove programs.
[06:32] <WebRat> sounds good to me
[06:32] <tangji> yes,i did
[06:32] <greezmunkey> WebRat: it's ok, a bit slow - but if something goes wrong, it's easy to recover from (partitions wise)
[06:33] <tangji> perfect,
[06:33] <WebRat> does wubi come standard with ubuntu?
[06:33] <crucialhoax> tangji: Great
[06:33] <greezmunkey> WebRat: it's an install option.
[06:33] <tangji> another question
[06:33] <crucialhoax> WebRat: It is inside the .iso
[06:33] <tangji> when i open this file properties
[06:33] <crucialhoax> WebRat: I would google wubi and use that. As I dont believe it is an install option from the Live CD.
[06:33] <sebsebseb> WebRat: It can also be downloaded seperatly, but I woudn't useually recommend it.
[06:34] <greezmunkey> WebRat: it's an install option...that's inside the iso!
[06:34] <greezmunkey> heh
[06:34] <tangji> have five program associate this file type,defaultly,use openoffice.org
[06:34] <crucialhoax> tangji: Right click on the file > choose properties > then choose the open with > choose the program you want.
[06:34] <hunahpu> WebRat: if you want to install using Wubi, you have to run the LiveCD in Windows, it should auto-start when you insert it while in windows; it is a good way to test Ubuntu, but a 'hard/normal' installation works better
[06:34] <sebsebseb> WebRat: Grub 2 is the default boot loader for proper partitioned clean installs of 9.10
[06:35] <crucialhoax> WebRat: I installed wubi on my laptop from the wubi site. It worked great :)
[06:35] <tangji> but i use want in my install program ,chage this default list
[06:35] <tangji> what file need to chage,acchive my aim
[06:36] <crucialhoax> tangji: Ok, then under open with, choose the "aAdd" button
[06:36] <greezmunkey> crucialhoax: It worked well for me as well, I think it only took 35-40 minutes from start to finish!
[06:36] <tangji> no ,i want in shell script finish this job
[06:36] <tangji> my program have listed  in open  program list
[06:36] <crucialhoax> Yep yep. then I do not know. I guess I am not understanding =/
[06:36] <tangji> but not default program
[06:36] <WebRat> ill google wubi now
[06:37] <crucialhoax> WebRat: its neat.
[06:37] <potatofamily> hi, all, I used the "nvidia" driver, but plymouth seems very bad, anyone help me ?
[06:37] <JasonGiedymin> ngith all
[06:37] <hunahpu> chd: in case you haven't found out how to do it yet: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ddcommand.htm
[06:37] <ZykoticK9> potatofamily, join #ubuntu+1 and i'll explain
[06:37] <greezmunkey> WebRat: Yes, and once you've blown up a wubi or two, and reinstalled, you'll be ready to go for a dedicated install.
[06:38] <potatofamily> ZykoticK9, ok
[06:38] <vrhahaha> hi guys, i need help with my lucid wubi installation
[06:38] <sebsebseb> !lucid | vrhahaha
[06:39] <xiven> What is the ubuntu package for PHP PDO?
[06:40] <tangji> in here ,i am is a student, want learn more from here
[06:40] <WebRat> with wubi i can still use seperate home partition right?
[06:42] <crucialhoax> WebRat: wubi does not touch your harddrive. It is kind of like a virtual machine.
[06:42] <crucialhoax> wubi's hard drive is a file
[06:42] <greezmunkey> WebRat: not sure about that one. At the end of the day, wubi installs ubuntu into a large file that can be booted into. It's a bit wierd that way.
[06:43] <hunahpu> WebRat: you can very well try installing it the normal way; with wubi you won't have /home on a separate partition (which is good btw), in the end it is installed in a "virtual hard drive"
[06:43] <greezmunkey> WebRat: That's where the performace hit comes from, but it still works well enough to get familiar with ubuntu.
[06:43] <knoppies> I installed xmms2 (along with a few plugins and players) and now xmms2d uses 100% CPU usage. It doesnt seem to slow the PC down at all, but it makes it get rather HOT (80 deg C). I have to keep killing it (it likes to resurrect itself). Anybody know whats causing the problem? Or have any ideas on fixing it? (I would like to keep xmms2 if I can). Google did not return much useful.
[06:44] <WebRat> can i run seperate partitions inside wubi file to avoid blowing it all off if something breaks?
[06:44] <jpg> can we install firefox 3.5 in ubuntu 10.04
[06:44] <diegoo> how can i view apache logs in ubuntu
[06:44] <crucialhoax> WebRat: what do you mean?
[06:44] <jpg> how to install firefox 3.5 in ubuntu 10.04
[06:44] <crucialhoax> !lucid | jpg
[06:44] <Pslam> !lucid
[06:45] <WebRat> wubi mounts as a seperate hard drive right
[06:45] <Pslam> !lucid | test
[06:45] <jpg> i know its lucid
[06:45] <jpg> lynx
[06:45] <crucialhoax> WebRat: Yes. wubi is your safest bet for trial.
[06:45] <crucialhoax> jpg: Use the #ubuntu+1 channel for 10.04 support
[06:45] <WebRat> can i use multiple partitions in that drive
[06:45] <hunahpu> diegoo: /var/log/apache2
[06:46] <sebsebseb> WebRat: Wubi edits the boot loader so it can boot up Grub/Grub2,  which then boots up Ubuntu.  Wubi itself goes in a file in the Windows partition,  and it seems you can only open your Windows files using Wubi as read only.
[06:46] <switch10_> jpg: go to #ubuntu+1 if you want help with it.  #ubuntu is for stable releases only
[06:46] <crucialhoax> WebRat: Why would you want to partition it?
[06:47] <sebsebseb> WebRat: no you don't partition Wubi,  you get what you get and that's that,  also there's a program that can later convert a Wubi install into real partition/s
thank for you answer
[06:47] <crucialhoax> tangji: No problem
[06:47] <WebRat> partitioning any linux distro is a good idea if things break kill everything but the /home and data storage space and reinstall
[06:48] <WebRat> never loose settings or data
[06:48] <sebsebseb> WebRat: indeed if you set up a proper partitioned install and use the manual  install option so you can make seperate /home
[06:48] <sebsebseb> WebRat: since guided installs don't do seperate /home
[06:48] <crucialhoax> WebRat: Wubi is basically a file. If the hard drive in Wubi failed so would windows.
[06:48] <WebRat> will it work with wubi sebsebseb?
[06:49] <switch10_> WebRat: why not just dual boot?  I have never used wubi and never will.
[06:49] <greezmunkey> WebRat: What I did was this. Started with wubi, killed and reinstalled wbui a couple of times. Once I got the system the way I liked it, installed aptoncd, adn backed up all my configs. Once I had a dedicated install, I updated from aptoncd, and my config files, and I was good to go. That laptop is still alive today.
[06:49] <sebsebseb> WebRat: no Wubi does not  have a seperate /home and it doesn't need one, since Wubi in that kind of way, isn't like a proper install
[06:49] <sebsebseb> switch10_: indeed WebRat  should just dual boot really
[06:50] <knoppies> WebRat, I agree with sebsebseb and switch10_, Just do a dual boot. If you want to trial it for a week or so, then I dont understand why you want to prevent data loss.
[06:51] <WebRat> ok you convinced me sebsebseb
[06:51] <Banshee_> Ok so I go to install, and when I hit install, I see the ubuntu symbol, then it disappears and my screen goes black I don't see ANYTHING i waited for 15 minutes all my computer did was reset and go back to a black screen, is my video card not supported or something, and when I say black screen I mean no text, no nothing its like my computers turned off
[06:52] <knoppies> Banshee_, a computer or laptop?
[06:52] <Banshee_> Laptop
[06:52] <WebRat> been a few years since i did an install and i cant afford to break windows doing it
[06:52] <sebsebseb> WebRat: boot Live CD,  follow installer through, set up partitions in manual install,  finnish instaler, done
[06:52] <knoppies> I sorta guessed.
[06:52] <hunahpu> Banshee_: what version of Ubuntu? did you make a md5sum check of your .iso file? did you test your memory?
[06:53] <Banshee_> 9.10 Ubuntu, no md5, and no memory
[06:53] <knoppies> WebRat, what about using a separate HDD all together?
[06:53] <crucialhoax> WebRat: Just use wubi and be done. it is easy and painless.
[06:53] <sebsebseb> WebRat: back up any important data just in case,  and re sizing Windows will probably go rather well.  Altough if Windows 7 is like Vista when it comes to this, should let it resize itself using it's tool,  or dataloss might happen.
[06:53] <WebRat> laptop knoppies
[06:54] <hunahpu> Banshee_: select the "check disk integrity" (or similar) option when you boot your LiveCD/usb pendrive; to make sure it's not corrupted, also run a memory test to make sure your RAM is not damaged.
[06:54] <Banshee_> hunahpu: Ok I will do that if both check out fine what should I do?
[06:55] <shankar021988> hi
[06:55] <hunahpu> Banshee_: if both check out fine, you may want to try the alternate CD
[06:55] <switch10_> Banshee_: I assume you have the desktop iso?  try the alternate cd's text installer.
[06:55] <hunahpu> shankar021988: hello
[06:55] <shankar021988> just boot live cd and select install!!!!
[06:55] <Banshee_> How do I do that, I have burned off the 32 bit, and 64 bit version
[06:55] <WebRat> no need the laptop came with 2 partitions sebsebseb 80gb where windows is and a seperate blank 208gb partition for me to play with that i havnt touched
[06:55] <Rold> hi, I have a question about upgrading my version
[06:56] <shankar021988> ya ask
[06:56] <sebsebseb> WebRat: ok :)
[06:56] <MailGon> how do I remove ubuntu partition from a netbook?
[06:56] <switch10_> Banshee_: it is a different iso entirely.
[06:56] <Banshee_> switch10_ is it on the webpage?
[06:56] <sebsebseb> WebRat: well put  Ubuntu on the other partition, and the Windows partition won't get effected
[06:56] <Rold> will I lose my data after upgrading?
[06:56] <switch10_> Banshee_: yes
[06:56] <shankar021988> use partition manager
[06:56] <sebsebseb> Rold: Which version are you currently on?
[06:56] <MailGon> is there a partition manager in ubuntu?
[06:57] <greezmunkey> Banshee_: I had a similar experience. Do you have a crt? If so plug it in, you may see your desktop there!
[06:57] <shankar021988> yes
[06:57] <Rold>  will I lose my data after upgrading?
[06:57] <hunahpu> Banshee_: it is a different .iso image, go to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors to get it
[06:57] <knoppies> MailGon, yes, its called gparted
[06:57] <sebsebseb> !gparted | MailGon
[06:57] <Banshee_> greezmunkey whats a CRT?
[06:57] <IceGuest_75_> cathode ray tube
[06:57] <spritle> is it possible to change the default path that wine installs programs into?
[06:58] <sebsebseb> Rold: Will you lose data after running the  Ubuntu upgrade to a later version, probably not.
[06:58] <switch10_> Banshee_: cathode ray tube.  the opposite of an LCD
[06:58] <hunahpu> Banshee_: CRT stands for Cathode Ray Tube, greezmunkey means a external monitor (the old ones), you can also use a flat one though.
[06:58] <greezmunkey> Banshee_: ok, I dated myself, a seperate monitor...
[06:58] <Rold> good to hear, I was lazy to make a back up of my things
[06:58] <MailGon> Well it has gparted on it, but is it a good idea to remove Ubuntu? I mean its the only OS on my netbook
[06:58] <MailGon> im not dualbooting
[06:58] <Rold> thank you
[06:58] <MailGon> its ok to format the OS im currently using?
[06:59] <Banshee_> ohhhhhhhhh ok no I don't I'm on a laptop with extended display to a 23" 1080p LCD, and yes I have tried with the screen plugged in and unplugged
[06:59] <shankar021988> just backup and install newly!!!!
[06:59] <sebsebseb> MailGon: you want to get rid of Ubuntu on a net book?
[06:59] <MailGon> yes.
[06:59] <crucialhoax> why
[06:59] <sebsebseb> MailGon: Why?
[06:59] <switch10_> MailGon: you need the live CD
[06:59] <MailGon> Well because
[06:59] <MailGon> Oh I do?
[06:59] <sebsebseb> switch10_: uhmm netbooks don't tend to have CD drives
[06:59] <crucialhoax> haha
[07:00] <crucialhoax> What os are you going to use?
[07:00] <switch10_> sebsebseb: ha ya
[07:00] <hunahpu> MailGon: yes it is OK to format the hard drive or reinstall your OS, just make sure to back up all your data first.
[07:00] <brijith1> Hi all, Why mailto: doesn't support file attachment
[07:00] <MailGon> Well I have a USB ready with windows however, when using windows installation it doesnt recognize a linux partition, so I need to get rid of ubuntu
[07:00] <chd> I need to burn a bootable disc, how do I go about doing that in ubuntu? I have brasero and k3b
[07:00] <MailGon> But then, id need another USB with the live CD
[07:00] <MailGon> is this the best way to go?
[07:00] <hunahpu> brijith1: mailto: usually invokes your default e-mail client only
[07:00] <MailGon> or can I just format the drive in my ubuntu?
[07:00] <sebsebseb> MailGon: if you got a real netbook, Windows is quite pointless on it, for example can you 3D game nope?   I say pointless since other OS's such as Ubuntu will work, and are more secure
[07:01] <switch10_> MailGon: yes.  the partition needs to be unmounted
[07:01] <MailGon> Err
[07:01] <hunahpu> MailGon: you can delete and create partitions from the Windows Installer
[07:01] <greezmunkey> Banshee_: What happend if you let it boot, then hit Ctrl+Alt+F2 ?
[07:01] <WebRat> ok time to play with linux cya people thanks for the help
[07:01] <crucialhoax> switch10_: Why does MailGon need a Live CD to get rid of ubuntu?
[07:01] <MailGon> No I cant
[07:01] <MailGon> linux doesnt show up in the windows installer
[07:01] <brijith1> hunahpu:on invoking I could set mail adress to send subject, mail body, But cann't set attachment ..
[07:01] <MailGon> so I cant install windows anywhere since theres no partition there (visually)
[07:01] <switch10_> crucialhoax: he needs to have his ubuntu partition unmounted to delete it.
[07:01] <MailGon> it doesnt show up
[07:01] <sebsebseb> MailGon: You can maybe with Ubuntu though.  It's just delete the partiton for Ubuntu and install Windows.  However some of us are wondering why you want to do that.
[07:02] <crucialhoax> So download gparted live cd and use that.
[07:02] <MailGon> Well id need ANOTHER usb though D=
[07:02] <shankar021988> :)
[07:02] <brijith1> hunahpu:Is is there any method to do that ?
[07:02] <hunahpu> brijith1: as far as I know you can't attach anything with mailto:
[07:02] <sebsebseb> MailGon: yes the Windows installer won't detect Linux partitions properly
[07:02] <MailGon> yeah
[07:02] <brijith1> hunahpu: :( ok
[07:02] <greezmunkey> crucialhoax: gparted live cd? didn't know there was such a thing...
[07:02] <MailGon> so.....the only way to do it is to use the live Cd on another usb then
[07:03] <switch10_> greezmunkey:  yes there is
[07:03] <sebsebseb> !usb | MailGon
[07:03] <Banshee_> greezmunkey I don't think anything happened cause its like my screen is just off like no power
[07:03] <brijith1> hunahpu:how can I invoke the mail client  with attachment ?
[07:03] <MailGon> ubottu thats not the problem.....
[07:03] <MailGon> I'm trying to remove ubuntu, however I cant use a live CD since netbooks dont take CD's
[07:03] <sebsebseb> MailGon: you need something you can run gparted from really,  so that's your answer.  Altough I don't understand why you want Windows on there in the first place.
[07:03] <brijith1> hunahpu:is there any solution other than mailto:
[07:04] <MailGon> linux doesnt do a lot of the stuff I want to do on windows, not that its at all relevant to the problem
[07:04] <greezmunkey> Banshee_: try Ctrl+alt+F3, then back by Ctrl+Alt+F7, does it even flicker?
[07:04] <switch10_> windows is horrible on netbooks.  so slow it hurts...
[07:04] <hunahpu> brijith1: usually the user who wants to send a mail would select the attachment; what do you want to do? I suppose you're building a website... you can use a form to upload/send files.
[07:04] <crucialhoax> MailGon: if you really want to put windows back on, download gparted live cd and put that on a USB drive using ubuntu.
[07:04] <MailGon> okay thnx
[07:04] <sebsebseb> MailGon: or make a presistent USB flash drive and use that
[07:04] <sebsebseb> MailGon: which apps do you want to run?
[07:05] <MailGon> gparted is an OS?
[07:05] <MailGon> o_O
[07:05] <switch10_> MailGon: we gave you the answer.  you need another USB stick, or a USB cd drive
[07:05] <sebsebseb> MailGon: by the way net books are only meatn to be basic computers, for web browsing, a bit of typing and that's about it
[07:05] <sebsebseb> MailGon: all the basic net book tasks, the actsual tasks, you can do in Ubuntu
[07:05] <jj3124> hey guys, i just tried to edit menu.lst of my grub because everytime i want to boot into windows i need to 'edit' the boot entry before booting but i can't find the entry there
[07:05] <brijith1> hunahpu:let me explain my problem. I am writing a python program. In that I am generation pdf file. I want to show the mail client with this pdf as attachment when user click a button
[07:05] <MailGon> sebsebseb I use my netbook for development purposes, some of my tools do not run on linux
[07:05] <sebsebseb> MailGon Micrsooft development tools?
[07:05] <hunahpu> jj3124: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:06] <MailGon> no
[07:06] <rifter> !help grub2
[07:06] <crucialhoax> !grub2
[07:06] <jj3124> hunahpu, it's xubuntu
[07:06] <MailGon> And also my webcam doesnt seem to work on linux, some sites dont work, lots of things I dont like
[07:06] <hunahpu> jj3124: what version? 9.10? 9.04?
[07:06] <brijith1> hunahpu:acrobat reader is doing similar thing ..
[07:06] <sebsebseb> MailGon: anyway hrm net books, you probably got hardly any RAM, and hardly any space,  so  Windows virtual machine is probably out.
[07:07] <hunahpu> brijith1: I don't know how to do it, sorry :(
[07:07] <brijith1> hunahpu:Ok
[07:07] <jj3124> hunahpu, hahah sorry 9.10
[07:07] <MailGon> No Ive ran XP before on it, it runs smoothly, my cousin stupidly put ubuntu on it, removing all of my files and tools
[07:07] <rifter> jj3124 grub2 does not use menu.lst
[07:07] <hunahpu> jj3124: if it is a clean install, it doesn't have a menu.lst file, 9.10 uses GRUB2 which works different
[07:08] <greezmunkey> MailGon: make your cousin fix it!
[07:08] <sebsebseb> MailGon: web cam you can probably configure.  also there are other Linux distributions that might be better on that netbook.
[07:08] <jj3124> huayra, hmm ok, should i just read up on it or is it a simple fix
[07:08] <MailGon> okay so, I just use gparted (from the live CD 'USB'), format my ubuntu installation, and then it should show up on my windows installation partition list correct?
[07:08] <hunahpu> jj3124: running "sudo update-grub" on a terminal usually fix menu entries
[07:08] <switch10_> MailGon: try cheese for the webcam.  and I asume flash sites are not working?  do this:    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:08] <brijith1> hello any body know how to pop up the default mail client with attachment from inside a python script
[07:08] <crucialhoax> MailGon: in ubuntu. System > Administration > USB startup disk creator download the gparted live cd and use that iso and a flash drive to format the hard drive.
[07:08] <jj3124> huayra, thanks, il try that out
[07:08] <jj3124> oops, hunahpu
[07:08] <hunahpu> MailGon: you would need to delete the partition
[07:08] <MailGon> thnx crucial!
[07:09]  * jbrouhard is seriously thinking of re-doing the laptop into linux too ...
[07:09] <crucialhoax> MailGon: you got it?
[07:09] <jbrouhard> now that everything I need to work in Ubuntu is working.  haha :)
[07:09] <MailGon> yeah
[07:09] <crucialhoax> alright..
[07:09] <MailGon> Im putting linux on my USB so I can use gparted and remove the partition
[07:09] <MailGon> err format**
[07:09] <MailGon> not remove :P
[07:09] <sebsebseb> MailGon: also that USB stick you could then use on better computers and have some fun with Ubuntu
[07:10] <hunahpu> MailGon: if you are going to format, make sure you use a filesystem windows support...
[07:10] <crucialhoax> NTFS
[07:10] <MailGon> i honestly dont like ubuntu though.....Ive used windows for many years, its more suited to me and nothing can make me change my mind about it =/
[07:10]  * hunahpu wonders why someone would go back to windows and all the headaches
[07:11] <sebsebseb> MailGon: yes there are differences here and there between  Windows and Linux distributions, but if you give a distro a proper chance, and learn/read a bit about it, you will probably like it.  Also depending to some extent on the hardware you want to use with it of course.  If it just works or not.
[07:11] <switch10_> I could never use windows again...
[07:11] <crashdata> i just like not installing pirated software nmre
[07:11] <jj3124> hunahpu, just simpler for simple-minded people like myself :)
[07:11] <crashdata> thats y i choose linux its free
[07:11] <ZykoticK9> !ot
[07:12] <xiven> Does the pdf-odbc package even exist in ubuntu?
[07:12] <crashdata> !?
[07:12] <xiven> pdo_odbc*
[07:12]  * MailGon will have Windows 4 life
[07:12] <xiven> [Thu Apr 08 09:49:28 2010] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[07:12] <xiven> PHP Warning:  Cannot load module 'pdo_pgsql' because required module 'pdo' is not loaded in Unknown on line 0
[07:12] <xiven> That is in apache'
[07:13] <xiven> s error.log file
[07:13] <hunahpu> xiven: search in packages.ubuntu.com or use apt-cache search pdo
[07:13] <greezmunkey> have fun y'all, gnite.
[07:13] <crucialhoax> peace.
[07:18] <Beyondinferno> has anyone run into issues with samba shares on a karmic x64 client?
[07:18] <h4wkmoon> hello. how to fix nvidia driver install | 10.0.1
[07:18] <Beyondinferno> has anyone run into issues with samba shares on a karmic x64 client?
[07:18] <h4wkmoon> hello. how to fix nvidia driver install | 10.04 beta2, x64
[07:19] <bazhang> h4wkmoon, lucid in #ubuntu+1 please
[07:19] <tenbytes_> hey anyone up?
[07:19] <theegg> hello : ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:19] <Beyondinferno> has anyone run into issues with samba shares on a karmic x64 client?
[07:19] <switch10_> Beyondinferno: no
[07:19] <h4wkmoon> bazhang:  thx
[07:20] <tenbytes_> i can use the ubuntu boot disc to format my harddrive without install ubuntu?
[07:20] <Slart> Beyondinferno: will you please stop repeating every 10 seconds.. once every 10 minutes or so is often enough
[07:20] <switch10_> tenbytes_: yes
[07:20] <Slart> Beyondinferno: use the time to search the forums, google or improve your question
[07:20] <switch10_> tenbytes_: use gparted.
[07:20] <tenbytes_> ah nice
[07:20] <tenbytes_> trying to install 32 bit xp over a 64 bit vista
[07:21] <Beyondinferno> I'm on a clean install, have swapped ports on router and swapped nic cards and can connect from another computer via wireless and wired lan
[07:21] <switch10_> Beyondinferno: so what is the problem?
[07:21] <Beyondinferno> the ONLY difference is the problem box is running x64
[07:22] <switch10_> Beyondinferno: what is your question?
[07:22] <Beyondinferno> windows network shows in network in the file browser but the shares wont show
[07:22] <Beyondinferno> the system hosting them aswell
[07:22] <Beyondinferno> but everything works perfect from a x386 system
[07:22] <switch10_> Beyondinferno: can you ping the server?
[07:23] <Beyondinferno> yes i can
[07:23] <Beyondinferno> i've formatted, reinstalled, changed ip and nic and still no dice
[07:24] <Beyondinferno> does samba have known issues with nvidia on board nic?
[07:24] <switch10_> Beyondinferno: Mine works..
[07:24] <Beyondinferno> (sorry if i'm comming off rude, i'm just trying to be as detailed as possible)
[07:25] <xiven> Well, I guess Ubuntu doesn't have a package for PDO-ODBC
[07:25] <switch10_> Beyondinferno: U have a PCI NIC?
[07:25] <xiven> I sure as heck cannot find one which satisfies apache
[07:25] <Beyondinferno> I've been searching for about 5 hours and can't find anything relevant.
[07:25] <switch10_> Beyondinferno: to test?
[07:25] <chelz> Beyondinferno: same workgroup?
[07:25] <Beyondinferno> I do, but it's in another machine
[07:26] <switch10_> Beyondinferno: pull it just to test quick...
[07:26] <Beyondinferno> i've got 2 ports on my mobo and have tried swapping to see if it was a mac add or ip issue
[07:26] <switch10_> Beyondinferno: if you can, I guess that is..
[07:26] <spaceman1987> how do you turn on perl where the server will run a perl script?
[07:26] <crucialhoax> Beyondinferno: I used to have a bookmark that had a how to ugh one sec :)
[07:27] <Beyondinferno> I'll try, but lets say it doesn't work... any other ideas?
[07:27] <crucialhoax> here is one of them: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[07:27] <switch10_> Beyondinferno: can you ping the problematic machine?
[07:27] <spaceman1987> tried chmod -x and that didnt do it
[07:27] <Beyondinferno> just so i have something else to pursue
[07:28] <switch10_> spaceman1987: chmod u+x file
[07:28] <crucialhoax> Beyondinferno: and here! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[07:28] <Beyondinferno> i can see the client from the server and can see the server from another client
[07:28] <chelz> Beyondinferno: yeah you need to mess with some settings according to some guides
[07:29] <StopSign> so i installed grub2, and startup manager clicked the splash screen , rebooted the resolution was correct but no splash screen ?
[07:29] <chelz> Beyondinferno: http://tolearnfree.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-to-share-files-using-samba-via.html
[07:29] <Beyondinferno> but why would it work on another client running the same distro?
[07:30] <Beyondinferno> I've set it up and it works on another machine, just not the one running karmic x64
[07:30] <chelz> Beyondinferno: after you fix the issue you'll know why since you will have changed whatever needs changing and might be different
[07:30] <chelz> so get crackin
[07:32] <Beyondinferno> i've read about 15 different walkthroughs on setting up samba
[07:32] <Beyondinferno> i'm looking for an isolated issue with either x64 or nvidia
[07:32] <Beyondinferno> those are the only differences
[07:33] <crucialhoax> are you sure its an x64 issue? I did read that it worked with 32bit but did the settings stay the same?
[07:34] <switch10_> Beyondinferno: put in that PCI NIC...  that will rule that out if it doesnt work..
[07:34] <spaceman1987> youtube is a great tool for learning new things in ubuntu
[07:35] <Beyondinferno> i guess that's all for now, Thanks for the help all! Hopefully I wont be back :p
[07:36] <chelz> that xiven guy left too quickly
[07:36] <brijith1> how to invoke default mail client
[07:37] <brijith1> Hi all ...       how to invoke default mail client from python script ?
[07:37] <chelz> brijith1: as in launch? i think just evolution
[07:38] <rifter> chelz, but what if that's not their client
[07:38] <chelz> i think that's the default mail client on ubuntu
[07:38] <chelz> which seemed to be what the question was regarding
[07:38] <rifter> chelz, I think they want to read what the default mail client is and launch that
[07:38] <brijith1> chelz:I want to invoke outlook from python
[07:38] <rifter> chelz as in what is in their settings
[07:39] <chelz> brijith1: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[07:39] <rifter> brijith1, well if you just want o invoke a speccific client there is a pythin command to call system commands
[07:39] <brijith1> chelz:I need this in windows,
[07:40] <chelz> !ot | brijith1
[07:40] <brijith1> chelz:I am using ubuntu9.01
[07:40] <louis> hi there
[07:40] <rifter> brijith1, I don't know it off the top of my head because I never got into python.  reading the settings is another story
[07:41] <brijith1> chelz:so what I am suppose to do.. ?
[07:41] <rifter> brijith1, if you are trying to do this on windows you should probably check for a python channel
[07:41] <louis> google it
[07:41] <louis> hehe
[07:42] <kiaas> Are there any programs that would allow me to convert MP3 to aac in the repos? (of 8.04 LTS)
[07:42] <brijith1> louis:I am tired of googling it
[07:42] <rifter> hmm that is interesting #python :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[07:42] <louis> been there
[07:42] <brijith1> rifter: yea me to getting the same error
[07:42] <rifter> well look for the equivalent of the perl "system" command in python
[07:42] <rifter> that's whatyou want
[07:43] <rifter> http://www.lurklurk.org/rosetta.html
[07:44] <brijith1> rifter:my requirment is not that simple actually .. I need to fill email,subject,also an attachment to it
[07:44] <chelz> guys this is so offtopic
[07:44] <chelz> brijith1: take it to a python or windows channel
[07:44] <debclair> Hi! got a question, can i install mono from source in ubuntu without breaking my repository based mono installation?
[07:44] <rifter> ah her eis your answeer http://xahlee.org/perl-python/system_calls.html
[07:45] <tenbytes_> how do i start gparted from the ubuntu boot disc?
[07:45] <brijith1> chelz: sorry, But how to go to python chanel
[07:45] <rifter> yes well outlook may have command line arguments for that
[07:45] <tenbytes_> ug, none of the menu options are working
[07:45] <tenbytes_> im doing "install ubuntu" clicking enter
[07:45] <tenbytes_> it doesnt do anything
[07:45] <rifter> brijith1, oteh rmail clients take arguments for mailto, subject, etc...
[07:46] <rifter> brijith1, actually I betthere is a python module to invoke a mailto link, mailto urls would open whatever their client was and fill in the subject line etc
[07:46] <chelz> rifter: how about taking it to a pm
[07:46] <brijith1> chelz: Cannot join #python: Registration is required. Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services error I am getting while tries to join #python channel
[07:46] <rifter> tenbytes_, maybe you have a bad disk
[07:46] <rifter> chelz, sorry ok
[07:46] <maco> !register | brijith1
[07:46] <tenbytes_> hrmm
[07:47] <tenbytes_> the text console works
[07:47] <tenbytes_> is there a command to start gparted?
[07:47] <brijith1> maco: but I am already a mem
[07:47] <maco> brijith1: did you forget to identify?
[07:47] <rifter> tenbytes_, yes, I think gparted
[07:47] <maco> tenbytes_: gksudo gparted
[07:48] <tenbytes_> Could not find kernel image: gksudo
[07:48] <chelz> brijith1: try in #freenode
[07:48] <brijith1> rifter:I have tried mailto: but attachment doesn't works
[07:48] <chelz> brijith1: stop that
[07:48] <tenbytes_> should i reburn?
[07:48] <rifter> brijith1, we nee dto take this out of the channnel
[07:51] <tenbytes_> reburning at 4x
[07:51] <chelz> tenbytes_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD
[07:52] <chelz> tenbytes_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD#After%20I%20Select:%20%27Start%20or%20Install%20Ubuntu%27,%20it%20fails%20to%20boot
[07:52] <chelz> "After I Select: 'Start or Install Ubuntu', it fails to boot"
[07:54] <rifter> yeah for some reason my nick is already registered and I don't remember my password
[07:54] <tenbytes_> hmm
[07:55] <chelz> tenbytes_: #BootParameters
[07:57] <louis> ciao
[07:57] <tenbytes_> ?
[07:57] <chelz> tenbytes_: you can also check the integrity of a disk by selecting "Check CD for defects" on the menu after you boot to the livecd
[07:58] <tenbytes_> could it be because this is a 64 bit cpu?
[07:58] <gottto> the only time ubuntu hasn't loaded from the cd for me is when the burner was on its' way out
[07:59] <tenbytes_> i really just need to reformat this harddrive
[07:59] <chelz> tenbytes_: both i386 and amd64 discs work on 64 bit cpus. i suggest checking the disk for defects and trying various BootParemeters
[07:59] <chelz> tenbytes_: try selecting "Check CD for defects"
[08:00] <tenbytes_> yeah
[08:00] <tenbytes_> it doesnt work either
[08:00] <rifter> tenbytes_, I used the 9.10 livecd just a couple of days ago to boot and resize my partitions with gparted
[08:00] <tenbytes_> it tries to load..then it stopps
[08:00] <tenbytes_> i hear it trying to read the cd
[08:00] <tenbytes_> im thinking this cd is messed up
[08:00] <rifter> tenbytes_, it came right up from the menu for me
[08:00] <tenbytes_> im reburning at a slower speed
[08:01] <chelz> tenbytes_: might be a drive issue. if you find your drive isn't working you can use unetbootin to put ubuntu on a usb stick with 705 megabyte or more of space. it will be formatted though.
[08:01] <rifter> tenbytes_, now I have an amd 64 bit system, if you have an older 64 bit chip tehre were some competing standards, but I think if you'r ebooting it should work.  check the md5sum on your iso.  yes burning at a slower speed is more reliable, use good media
[08:02] <tenbytes_> its an amd turion
[08:02] <tenbytes_> 64
[08:03] <tenbytes_> hmm brb
[08:04] <rifter> tenbytes you shoudl be fine then
[08:05] <steppenwolf> Hi everyone <I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 and need to install Update Manager but last time I did I had a system crash
[08:05] <steppenwolf> anyone has had that?
[08:08] <chelz> steppenwolf: you installed ubuntu 9.10 desktop?
[08:08] <shankar021988> iT'S AWSOME UBUNTU 9.10!!!!
[08:08] <chelz> !hi | shankar021988
[08:08] <shankar021988> hi
[08:08] <coz_> steppenwolf,  you just installed ubuntu cleanly from the cd??
[08:09] <shankar021988> chelz!!!
[08:09] <chelz> steppenwolf: try installing the updates and come back here if you encounter any issues.
[08:09] <shankar021988> hi chelz can we be friends?
[08:09] <chelz> shankar021988: this channel is for ubuntu support. for other topics please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:09] <coz_> steppenwolf,   I am not clear on why  you need to install the   update-manager
[08:10] <steppenwolf> yes I installed desktop 64 bits on a clean HD
[08:10] <shankar021988> i know chelz
[08:10] <chelz> coz_: i think he means installing updates through the update manager
[08:10] <chelz> shankar021988: please stop being offtopic then
[08:10] <chelz> steppenwolf: should work fine
[08:10] <coz_> chelz,  maybe so   at least I hope so :)
[08:10] <steppenwolf> for example I cant watch youtube
[08:10] <chelz> steppenwolf: you need to install the special flash player for 64bit systems
[08:11] <coz_> steppenwolf,    ah   you want to install    ubuntu-restricted-extras     maybe
[08:11] <chelz> !flash64 | steppenwolf
[08:11] <robertzaccour> i installed crossweaver but i don't know where its stored at
[08:11] <chelz> yeah ubuntu-restricted-extras would be good too
[08:11] <Banshee_> Ok, I have installed Ubuntu 9.10 AMD64 on my Acer 8930G Laptop, using both the GUI install and the Text-based install, both lead me to the same problem, A black screen that I cannot do nothing with, it brings me to the boot loader and after i pick ubuntu it launches, i see the symbol as it loads, then my screen goes black as if my monitor isnt even turned on, none of the CTRL+ALT+F# buttons...
[08:11] <Banshee_> ...work, and I Cannot see nothing, the memory test and disk test came back positive. Help.
[08:11] <robertzaccour> does anyone know where crossover gets stored at?
[08:11] <chelz> robertzaccour: try checking with the crossover people
[08:12] <coz_> robertzaccour,  i found with crossover office ..sometimes it will not show up in the menu until you reboot
[08:12] <steppenwolf> ok thanks Ubottu
[08:12] <robertzaccour> coz_, oh ok thanks
[08:12] <coz_> robertzaccour,  which version of corssover did you install??
[08:13] <robertzaccour> coz_, the latest i guess
[08:13] <Banshee_> anybody?
[08:13] <coz_> robertzaccour,  ok  yeah  try rebooting and see if it shows up in the menu
[08:13] <robertzaccour> http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxlinux/download_trial/?done=1 this one
[08:13] <robertzaccour> coz_, ok thanks
[08:13] <theadmin> Something's wrong with webhttrack. First time i run it it runs on 127.0.0.1:8080, then on 127.0.0.1:8081, and it keeps increasing.
[08:13] <robertzaccour> coz_, gnome-do couldn't even find it
[08:13] <coz_> robertzaccour,  hold on
[08:13] <robertzaccour> ok
[08:14] <coz_> robertzaccour,  there is a free version on occasion when a new version releases  hold on I have one of them  it is not a trial version   let me find it
[08:14] <chelz> Banshee_: does booting into recovery mode work?
[08:14] <Banshee_> yes it brings me to a dos style
[08:14] <chelz> Banshee_: you might have to boot to recovery mode, get a shell, and install nvidia drivers that way
[08:14] <Banshee_> chelz any tutorial or anything?
[08:15] <shankar021988> not nvidia but your motherboard drivers
[08:15] <chelz> Banshee_: after selecting "(Recovery Mode)" select get a shell
[08:15] <chelz> shankar021988: no
[08:15] <shankar021988> what if he don't have graphic card?
[08:15] <Banshee_> chelz Theres a button that says "Get a shell?" or do i have to type something
[08:15] <shankar021988> i mean onboard
[08:15] <coz_> robertzaccour,   there is what is called "lame duck"  version which is full version but free however I dont know if I have the version 9  but let me check
[08:15] <chelz> Banshee_: there's a thing to select that
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> Banshee_: It says "root shell"
[08:16] <robertzaccour> coz_, ok
[08:16] <robertzaccour> coz_, i'll restart and brb
[08:16] <orly_owl> how do i restart sound damon on jaunty?
[08:16] <Banshee_> Ok after I Type that then what?
[08:16] <orly_owl> $ sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[08:16] <chelz> Banshee_: from the google results i'm seeing most people are just fine graphics-wise after installing. did anything strange happen during your install?
[08:16] <Banshee_> chelz: No it installed just fine
[08:16] <Banshee_> chelz: all 4 times I have tried
[08:17] <shankar021988> install within windows and try!!!!!
[08:17] <chelz> Banshee_: in the root shell you get try this:   sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[08:17] <chelz> shankar021988: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:18] <shankar021988> hi chelz do you have orkut oe facebook?
[08:18] <shankar021988> i want you my friend
[08:18] <theadmin> ...sigh... ubottu, offtopic | shankar021988
[08:18] <theadmin> ...uh
[08:18] <chelz> !ot | shankar021988
[08:18] <steppenwolf> ok when runing the update manager I have a box that says Some of the packages could not be retrived from the server(s) do you want to continue, ignoring the packages?"
[08:18] <chelz> would be nice if there was a non-emergency way to alert ops to trolls
[08:19] <theadmin> steppenwolf: Check your connection
[08:19] <robertzaccour> coz_, restart worked thanks :)
[08:19] <theadmin> chelz: There is this "ops" trigger, kinda works in most cases
[08:19] <chelz> steppenwolf: if you get that more than a few times you can try pastebinning the output of some commands and we'll diagnose it
[08:19] <robertzaccour> coz_, the only thing i wanna try it for is yahoo messenger
[08:19] <chelz> theadmin: yeah but it says right on it "only use in emergencies"
[08:19] <robertzaccour> for everything else, DILLIGAF
[08:19] <theadmin> chelz: Any troll is already an emergency :D
[08:20] <shankar021988> Anybody tried Ubuntu 10.04 Beta?
[08:20] <coz_> robertzaccour,  ok then the version i have is 7.1.2 and it should work but it is the full version including crossover-games which is for running games
[08:20] <chelz> !lucid | shankar021988
[08:20] <theadmin> shankar021988: Go to #ubuntu+1 for 10.04 help/discussion
[08:20] <robertzaccour> coz_, yahoo messenger is not in the software list
[08:20] <shankar021988> oh come on man why you guys so dumb?
[08:20] <coz_> robertzaccour, oooo ok
[08:21] <robertzaccour> coz_, is there another way that i need to get it?
[08:21] <coz_> robertzaccour,   have you tried other messengers native to linux?
[08:21] <theadmin> shankar021988: It's not we who are. It's you who is going offtopic and trolling the channel. Stop it, please.
[08:21] <chelz> shankar021988: please go somewhere else
[08:21] <indus> i
[08:21] <theadmin> whoah wtf
[08:21] <theadmin> err sorry
[08:21] <robertzaccour> coz_, yeah skype is great. don't know a lot of skype users though
[08:22] <coz_> robertzaccour,  there should be a yahoo messenger for linux hold on let me google
[08:22] <theadmin> (11:21:06 AM) mode (-bbbb *!*@122.169.83.75 *!yoshi765?*@* *!*@c-67-166-13-247.hsd1.co.comcast.net *!*@85.137.115.177.dyn.user.ono.com) by tonyyarusso - what was that o_O
[08:22] <coz_> robertzaccour,    http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Yahoo-Messenger-Download-2.html     <, maybe
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> theadmin: that was ban list administration.
[08:22] <shankar021988> ok bye i am sorry i am not eligible.
[08:22] <theadmin> tonyyarusso: Oh, i see.
[08:22] <pinoyoragon> Hello. i can't login to my client PC using any of the stored accounts in my ldap server although when I issue "getent passwd" the accounts from my ldap server are displayed. What seems to be the problem?
[08:22] <indus> shankar021988, not eligible for what
[08:22] <rshakin> robertzaccour: skype is great, but why not use gtalk
[08:23] <coz_> robertzaccour,     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81895
[08:23] <shankar021988> Not eligible for this channel.
[08:23] <steppenwolf> ok says "W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2010g-0ubuntu0.9.10_all.deb   404 Not found
[08:23] <indus> shankar021988, why
[08:23] <chelz> steppenwolf: in a terminal try: sudo apt-get update
[08:23] <coz_> robertzaccour,  gtalk or gaim  or one of the other native linus messengers would probably be better but apparenlty there is a yahoo messenger for linux as well
[08:23] <shankar021988> admin and chelz are banning me.
[08:23] <steppenwolf> ok
[08:23] <robertzaccour> rshakin, why gtalk?
[08:24] <robertzaccour> coz_, thats the old yahoo messenger, no video chat
[08:24] <coz_> robertzaccour,  ok
[08:24] <robertzaccour> thanks anyhow
[08:24] <TheMozart> can I install ubuntu ISO from a USB stick?
[08:24] <theadmin> steppenwolf: Could you try another mirror? You could use the "Software Sources" thingy. Try the russian mirror, it's most certainly up :D (downloading from it right now)
[08:24] <coz_> robertzaccour,   what about pigin
[08:24] <robertzaccour> TheMozart, yes
[08:24] <theadmin> TheMozart: use unetbootin
[08:24] <TheMozart> robertzaccour: how?
[08:24] <robertzaccour> coz_, same issue lol
[08:24] <TheMozart> theadmin: eh?
[08:24] <coz_> robertzaccour, mmmm
[08:25] <robertzaccour> coz_, with skype it works great though. even better than yahoo
[08:25] <TheMozart> theadmin: I have downloaded ubuntu .iso file its 650MB. What I do now?
[08:25] <chelz> TheMozart: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[08:25] <coz_> robertzaccour,  oh ok   can you use skype instead?  let me check for others hold on
[08:25] <theadmin> TheMozart: Use the prog chelz linked to.
[08:25] <chelz> TheMozart: download and install unetbootin then select the iso you have
[08:25] <Banshee_> chelz: I did as you said with teh sudo command it told me that the package didnt exist or something along those lines
[08:25] <chelz> Banshee_: did you install 9.10?
[08:26] <Banshee_> chelz: yes
[08:26] <robertzaccour> i really think us Linux users should be promoting skype a lot more than we do. they're the only messenger app that I know of that has a version for Linux. among the well know ones anyhow
[08:26] <steppenwolf> I did the sudo from a terminal
[08:26] <robertzaccour> coz_, yes i can use skype. i guess my real friends will talk to me on there anyhow lol if they're understanding
[08:26] <chelz> steppenwolf: try to update again
[08:26] <theadmin> robertzaccour: what about all those Jabber/Gtalk things? :P And Skype is huge anyway :/
[08:26] <steppenwolf> and the reading of the package l ist is done
[08:26] <steppenwolf> ok
[08:26] <steppenwolf> I will
[08:26] <TheMozart> I have downloaded ubuntu alternative .ISO file.  Is there a way to get that unto my USB stick and then install Ubuntu from my USB stick?
[08:27] <theadmin> TheMozart: Oh. No. You need the desktop iso.
[08:27] <chelz> Banshee_: do   apt-cache search nvidia-glx
[08:27] <coz_> robertzaccour,  i am guessing there are other native linux messengers with video support  ... google should know :)
[08:27] <robertzaccour> theadmin, how is skype huge? seems to run pretty quick. it installs faster than almost anything
[08:27] <Odo> giorno
[08:27] <theadmin> robertzaccour: Well, maybe it's just that i last tried it quite long ago
[08:27] <robertzaccour> coz_, yes gyachi, however never got voice chat working
[08:27] <TheMozart> theadmin: but I want the alternative ISO... so I cannot do it?
[08:27] <chelz> Banshee_: and pick the highest number after the "nvidia-glx-" and apt-get install it
[08:27] <robertzaccour> theadmin, it installed here in seconds
[08:28] <coz_> robertzaccour,  ok well this crossover is almost done uploading I will give you link when finished
[08:28] <robertzaccour> theadmin, kopete takes much longer
[08:28] <theadmin> TheMozart: No...
[08:28] <chelz> TheMozart: yes. you select the iso you have inside unetbootin.
[08:28] <aiakeng>  alternative....good!
[08:28] <robertzaccour> coz_, oh ok thanks
[08:28] <theadmin> robertzaccour: kopete? Bleh, KDE apps :/
[08:28] <Banshee_> chelz: Ok brb ill go try that
[08:28] <robertzaccour> theadmin, i don't like them either lol
[08:28] <chelz> TheMozart: download and open unetbootin
[08:29] <robertzaccour> even if i did use kde apps, i'm glad that they have the gnome look instead of that kiddy game look
[08:29] <MailGon> okay i opened gparted
[08:29] <theadmin> chelz: It only works with the Desktop iso, so... well, not gonna work
[08:29] <MailGon> how do I remove my linux distribution?
[08:29] <shankar021988> ya Gnome is superb
[08:29] <MailGon> theres 3 partitions:
[08:29] <indus> MailGon, format the partition
[08:29] <shankar021988> just format it with any other os
[08:29] <theadmin> MailGon: Is any of them 'ext4'?
[08:29] <MailGon> im using live cd
[08:30] <MailGon> ext4
[08:30] <MailGon> yes
[08:30] <indus> MailGon, the one with ext3 or ext4
[08:30] <robertzaccour> TheMozart, try downloading the iso then use unetbootin to put it on the flash drive
[08:30] <shankar021988> both
[08:30] <theadmin> MailGon: Format that :D And done.
[08:30] <MailGon> ????
[08:30] <MailGon> which one
[08:30] <MailGon> Linux-swap?
[08:30] <indus> MailGon, type df in terminal to see what is what
[08:30] <shankar021988> HD
[08:30] <MailGon> im using a live cd
[08:30] <FloodBot2> MailGon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:30] <TheMozart> robertzaccour: but i have the alternative iso... only desktop iso will work :*(
[08:30] <theadmin> MailGon: The ext4 one.... linux-swap... hm, you can remove that completely, as a matter of fact, since you will not need swap
[08:30] <robertzaccour> TheMozart, use desktop iso then
[08:30] <aiakeng> I think  alternative ISO install is difficulty for me.
[08:30] <MailGon> what is linux-swap?
[08:31] <indus> MailGon, do you have separate home also?
[08:31] <theadmin> MailGon: The swap space, kinda to work with RAM better
[08:31] <MailGon> im running this from a USB live cd
[08:31] <MailGon> i dont wanna remove the one im running
[08:31] <MailGon> ext4 is the one on my hard drive? not my usb correct?
[08:31] <theadmin> MailGon: Yes, obviously
[08:31] <shankar021988> ya u can do it by opening partition manager
[08:31] <theadmin> MailGon: Your USB would be in vfat
[08:31] <coz_> robertzaccour,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/crossover_7.1.2_linux.tar.gz      <<  as I recall this was the last lameduck --crossover office ...i beleive stopped giving them away free after this one
[08:32] <MailGon> okay what do I format the ext4 one to?
[08:32] <robertzaccour> coz_, free crossover?
[08:32] <MailGon> i wanna make it blank so my windows installation can recognize it
[08:32] <MailGon> because before it couldnt since its linux
[08:32] <indus> MailGon, just delete the partition so it creates free space
[08:32] <robertzaccour> coz_, i don't really need crossover anyway, just curious about the yahoo messenger
[08:32] <coz_> robertzaccour,  yeah...when crossover came out with a new version ...there was a week period or so that it was free
[08:32] <MailGon> it sais 1 operation pending
[08:32] <antonio_> buenos dias
[08:32] <indus> MailGon, i hope you have backed up important data
[08:32] <theadmin> MailGon: Delete both ext4 and linux-swap, expand your windows partition to all that space
[08:33] <robertzaccour> coz_, oh i see
[08:33] <indus> MailGon, follow theadmin
[08:33] <MailGon> it wont let me remove linux-swap
[08:33] <MailGon> its grayed out
[08:33] <coz_> robertzaccour,  oh ok  then dont download or download and save :)
[08:33] <robertzaccour> hey yall i gotta go to sleep
[08:33] <robertzaccour> have a good night :)
[08:33] <MailGon> however i deleted the ext4 one, except it says one operation pending
[08:33] <MailGon> how do i confirm it
[08:33] <Banshee_> chelz: I did that and nothing came up, so I just tryped apt-cache search nvidia and the closest I seen was nvidia-185-modaliases
[08:33] <theadmin> MailGon: Huh. It's active?! Strange. Do "sudo swapoff -a" in terminal
[08:33] <TheMozart> if I install the Desktop ISO, can I encrypt my Ubuntu?
[08:34] <antonio_> español k pasa
[08:34] <Amin__> hi i need help ononline file repair
[08:34] <Amin__> any soft
[08:34] <chelz> Banshee_: you might try a  apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[08:34] <MailGon> ok its unallocated data now
[08:34] <MailGon> is that good?
[08:35] <theadmin> MailGon: Yeah yeah, now expand your Windows partition
[08:35] <MailGon> expand?
[08:35] <MailGon> how
[08:35] <theadmin> MailGon: Right click -> Resize/Move -> Set the space it uses to max
[08:35] <Banshee_> chelz: anything else before I disapear again?
[08:35] <Pslam> Yes, Thing you will Update by #apt-get update and then #apt-get upgrade
[08:35] <MailGon> but the options are greyed out
[08:35] <MailGon> all I have is unallocated, extended, and another unallocated
[08:35] <theadmin> MailGon: Then right clicky it and choose unmount.
[08:36] <chelz> Banshee_: try doing the apt-cache search after those
[08:36] <Amin__> is thee an soft in linux which could repairs file on line
[08:36] <MailGon> unmount is grayed out too
[08:36] <MailGon> all except New is grayed out
[08:36] <theadmin> MailGon: "New"?!
[08:36] <chelz> Banshee_: ideally you should see nvidia-glx-185
[08:36] <theadmin> Is there a NTFS partition there?
[08:36] <chelz> Banshee_: you better be running 9.10 though
[08:36] <MailGon> ......no
[08:36] <Banshee_> chelz: alright ill be back again i think, i am running 9.10
[08:36] <TheMozart> if I install the Desktop ISO, how do I encrypt my Ubuntu?
[08:36] <MailGon> did I screw up
[08:36] <MailGon> im running this off a USB
[08:36] <theadmin> MailGon: Uh. Do you already have Windows installed?
[08:36] <MailGon> No......
[08:37] <MailGon> .....
[08:37] <telmich> good morning
[08:37] <MailGon> but i can still install it right?
[08:37] <theadmin> MailGon: Okay, then just do -> Device -> Create Partition Table -> Okay. Will be by far easier to just recreate it then jump around
[08:37] <MailGon> but I have 2 unallocated
[08:37] <steppenwolf> I got a message about grub-pc: A new version of configuration   file /etc/default/grub is available, but the version installed currently has been localy modified do I keep it or install new one?
[08:37] <penocio> is there a way to install windows while having linux in a seperate partition, as windows do not disturb the grub boot system and linux option in startup grub remains as it is?
[08:37] <MailGon> isnt that good enough for windows?
[08:37] <Amin__> help online file repaire
[08:37] <telmich> I'm wondering what's the "right way" to encrypt home and swap via cryptsetup in ubuntu 9.10? is there some straightforwared way or do I create crypttab and co. myself?
[08:37] <MailGon> wont it let me install windows on unallocated?
[08:38] <Amin__> crc error
[08:38] <theadmin> MailGon: Well, 2 unallocated places is quite a weirdness. If we could merge them... But dunno how :P
[08:38] <tyler_> how can i make the line in play out the speakers?
[08:38] <chelz> penocio: windows will overwrite grub but i'm pretty sure it will leave the linux partitions alone
[08:38] <developer> ya there is a way ... install linux
[08:38] <theadmin> developer: huh
[08:38] <ter10_> where is the path of repo files
[08:38] <MailGon> well i made a new one and its called ext2
[08:39] <MailGon> will windows recognize it?
[08:39] <theadmin> MailGon: No, ext2 is a Linux filesystem :P You need NTFS
[08:39] <sereph> MailGon: not by default no
[08:39] <telmich> err, ubuntu 10.04 I meant
[08:39] <pinoyoragon> any ldap users here?
[08:39] <sereph> ldap?
[08:39] <theadmin> ter10_: /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[08:39] <developer> then boot from live cd and issue cmd "grub-install"
[08:39] <MailGon> wha tshould i label it?
[08:39] <theadmin> MailGon: Just make sure NTFS is selected as filesystem
[08:39] <MailGon> what should I label it
[08:39] <MailGon> ok
[08:40] <alesan> hi
[08:40] <theadmin> alesan: Hi
[08:40] <alesan> can I download pictures from an iphone?
[08:40] <MailGon> Oh I dont have a partition table, whats that?
[08:40] <Amin__> help online file repair??????????????
[08:40] <MailGon> do I need partition table?
[08:40] <theadmin> MailGon: !?!?! o_O
[08:40] <realcnbs> hey, i'm on lucid, and something weird is going on with compiz after this morning update
[08:40] <MailGon> sry im new to this stuff
[08:40] <MailGon> do I need a partition table
[08:40] <theadmin> realcnbs: Lucid support is in #ubuntu+1
[08:40] <MailGon> or am I done?
[08:40] <realcnbs> thx )
[08:40] <theadmin> MailGon: Obviously :P Partition table is the main thing on the disk :/
[08:41] <julikoko> hi al
[08:41] <MailGon> yeah but.....dont I have one?
[08:41] <MailGon> Ive got 3 partitions
[08:41] <steppenwolf> when update manager was run I had a configuration grub-pc dialog
[08:41] <alesan> theadmin, well one could use the disk as a raw device and may not need a partition table
[08:41] <Banshee_> chelz: Ok i did it but im under the impression that it was seeing my laptop as not connected to the internet, would that be why it cant update / upgrade?
[08:41] <theadmin> alesan: True... Well...
[08:41] <alesan> if you do not need partitions, you do not need a partition table :)
[08:41] <MailGon> New partition #1 (NTFS) | /dev/sda2 (extended) | unallocated (unallocated)
[08:41] <theadmin> Sorry, MailGon, but i have to go now.
[08:41] <MailGon> Isnt that my partition table?
[08:41] <steppenwolf> do I install the package mainteiners version?}
[08:41] <MailGon> wait wait
[08:41] <julikoko> i didnt create a swap partition while installing my ubuntu
[08:41] <MailGon> is that my partition table
[08:41] <FloodBot2> MailGon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:42] <julikoko> but my system keeps hanging
[08:42] <chelz> Banshee_: ah might be. i don't have experience with internet connectivity in recovery mode so i was hoping it autoconfigured itself
[08:42] <julikoko> what can i do or how can i create a swap partion
[08:42] <Banshee_> chelz: Im going to try to re-install with it plugged in and not on wifi
[08:44] <julikoko> hi any help
[08:44] <AnAnt> Hello, how can I disable a certain user from using audio on a machine ?
[08:44] <sereph> unplug the speakers
[08:44] <julikoko> hw can i create a swap space after installing ubuntu
[08:44] <chelz> there is an "audio" group, or there used to be
[08:44] <sereph> sorry im in a sarcastic mood tonight
[08:45] <julikoko> i didnt create the swap partition while i was doing the installation
[08:45] <AnAnt> chelz: is there any other way ? using apparmor for example ?
[08:45] <indigoparrot> hey there everyone, anyone got any experience with Bacula?
[08:45] <sereph> how can i make the line in play out the speakers?
[08:45] <sereph> ask | indigoparrot
[08:46] <sereph> !ask | indigoparrot
[08:46] <sereph> there we go :P
[08:46] <chelz> AnAnt: i don't know about that, but there might be. you could also try looking into SELinux
[08:46] <chelz> won't be easy though
[08:46] <chelz> sereph: !anyone is good too
[08:46] <chelz> !anyone | indigoparrot
[08:46] <MailGon> OMFG
[08:46] <sereph> chelz: heh yeah
[08:46] <indigoparrot> thanks guys... :P
[08:47] <MailGon> the partition WILL NOT show up in windows
[08:47] <MailGon> wtf........
[08:47]  * sereph waits for the real question
[08:47] <indigoparrot> unfortunately it's not as simple as a single question, but here goes...
[08:47] <MailGon> I just made a new NTSF through my live CD
[08:47] <MailGon> and for some reason it refuses to show up in windows installation
[08:47] <MailGon> ......
[08:47] <chelz> MailGon: look into adding a new harddrive to windows. windows is weird. but that's offtopic.
[08:48] <sereph> chelz: how do i get the bot to tell me his commands?
[08:48] <indigoparrot> I have Ubuntu running the bacula-dir, and a windows client with bacula-fd. The bacula-dir cannot connect to the bacula-fd on windows. The passwords are the same, the IPs are correct (and IPs, not names) and i've turned off the firewall in XP and rebooted both machines.
[08:48] <indigoparrot> @sereph happy now? :P
[08:48] <sereph> yes much better :)
[08:48] <chelz> !ubottu > sereph
[08:48] <penocio> is there a way to install windows while having linux in a seperate partition, as windows do not disturb the grub boot system and linux option in startup grub remains as it is?
[08:49] <sereph> oh cmon...
[08:49] <sereph> dont people have better things to do
[08:49] <MailGon> no I mean I went into gparted on  my linux live cd, added a new partition (ntfs), and it will not show up when I install windows
[08:49] <MailGon> .....
[08:49] <chelz> indigoparrot: anything interesting in the logs?
[08:49] <chelz> !pm | indigoparrot
[08:50] <chelz> MailGon: when you created a new partition table, what kind did you select?
[08:50] <sereph> 03:48 < penocio> is there a way to install windows while having linux in a seperate partition, as windows do not disturb the grub boot system  and linux option in startup grub remains as it is?
[08:50] <MailGon> oh
[08:50] <sereph> 03:48 -!- penocio [~quassel@119.152.46.57] has quit [K-Lined]
[08:50] <MailGon> i idnt make a new partition table =/
[08:50] <steppenwolf> so I have to install a 32 bit version right?
[08:50]  * sereph wonders what for
[08:51]  * sereph also didnt mean to flood
[08:51] <MailGon> am i supposed to make a new partition table?
[08:51] <Amin__> is thee any  one knows abouut onlinne fle repair
[08:51] <sereph> !anyone | Amin__
[08:51] <MailGon> okay I JSUT made a new partition table
[08:51] <chelz> MailGon: no, just you said something about that
[08:51] <chelz> MailGon: of what kind?
[08:51] <MailGon> it was called msdos
[08:51] <chelz> yeah that's good
[08:51] <MailGon> ok
[08:52] <chelz> MailGon: make sure any partitions you expect to use with windows are primary partitions, as in not in the extended box
[08:52] <Amin__> my question is online file repair any soft????????????????????///
[08:52] <MailGon> yeah
[08:52] <MailGon> its ntfs
[08:52] <chelz> also formatting them to fat32 is best
[08:52] <MailGon> shoot
[08:52] <MailGon> how do I check if its primary or not
[08:52] <MailGon> file system is ntfs, that good?
[08:52] <chelz> MailGon: it's either in a blue box or not
[08:52] <chelz> MailGon: i'd try fat32 then reformatting to ntfs after windiz sees it
[08:52] <mykie> morning
[08:53] <antonio_> buenos dias no  hay    ningun   español
[08:53] <MailGon> hey im running live cd off of a usb
[08:53] <MailGon> if i pull out usb, what would happen? :P
[08:53] <chelz> Amin__: you want to recover deleted files? or what?
[08:53] <ikonia> antonio_: you are using Suse - not ubuntu
[08:53] <ikonia> ooops
[08:53] <ikonia> Amin__: you are using Suse - not ubuntu, please don't ask in here
[08:53] <ikonia> antonio_: apologies, that was not meant for you
[08:53] <sereph> MailGon: most likely nothing
[08:53] <chelz> MailGon: similar thing if you unplugged your hdd in an installed system
[08:53] <MailGon> oh crap
[08:53] <MailGon> I got a GRUB error
[08:53] <MailGon> upon restart
[08:54] <MailGon> GRUB loading error: unknown filesystem
[08:54] <MailGon> grub rescue> _
[08:54] <MailGon> hm
[08:54] <joaopinto> MailGon, language
[08:54] <alesan> MailGon, how can you IRC from the grub prompt :)
[08:54] <steppenwolf> Hi I am having problems with Ubuntu 9.04, I installed a 64 bit version on a intel centrino Duo  t7600 processors but those are still X86, so I have to install the i386 version right?
[08:54] <ikonia> steppenwolf: if it doesn't support a 64bit OS it won't install
[08:55] <iceroot> steppenwolf: yes
[08:55] <steppenwolf> it did installed
[08:55] <sereph> chelz: mind if i pm you for an off topicc question?
[08:55] <iceroot> steppenwolf: normally the installer should tell you that the architecture is not supported
[08:55] <Moral_> I'm trying to chmod a file on my ntfs partition but it wont take the paramaters I give it... Any suggestions?
[08:55] <joaopinto> if the 64 bits livecd booted then they are 64 bits :P
[08:55] <g0aliath> how hard is it to compile stuff for x64 ubuntu?
[08:55] <MailGon> okay wow
[08:55] <steppenwolf> it booted
[08:55] <MailGon> it still wont show up in installation
[08:55] <joaopinto> g0aliath, as hard as it is for 32 bits
[08:55] <ikonia> Moral_: a.) you may have it marked as read only b.) ntfs won't support unix based file permissions in the same way
[08:55] <MailGon> ........
[08:55] <steppenwolf> even installed
[08:55] <FloodBot4> MailGon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:55] <iceroot> g0aliath: not hard if you know what to do
[08:55] <MailGon> why doesnt it show up in installation???? i created new partition table and everything.......
[08:55] <g0aliath> no i mean for myself in the terminal
[08:56] <Moral_> ikonia, Orly @ the unix based file permissions.... So... what are my options?
[08:56] <Amin__> no i just downloaded 5gb n dvb sat by mana and it is corrupted ad i need a soft to repair it by direct link
[08:56] <g0aliath> is it a lot of shel scripting?
[08:56] <chelz> sereph: eh try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:56] <MailGon> why doesnt the stupid partition table show up!
[08:56] <MailGon> in windows installation
[08:56] <iceroot> g0aliath: just compile the stuff on a 64bit system, its the same way as on a 32bit system
[08:56] <sereph> chelz: nevermind i figured it out :)
[08:56] <ikonia> Moral_: well you can change the permissions (if it's mounted read/write) as the root user
[08:56] <sereph> chelz: it was about the bot but i got it
[08:56] <joaopinto> g0aliath, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[08:56] <g0aliath> cool, thanks guys for the info, im thinking about going 64
[08:56] <chelz> steppenwolf: t7600 is 64bit capable
[08:57] <MailGon> ..
[08:57] <steppenwolf> it did installed
[08:57] <Moral_> ikonia, there lies the problem... It's mounted as rw and when i sudo chmod  it doesnt work...
[08:57] <Amin__> yes bu i love ubuntu chat irc it is  more  better and full of info
[08:57] <ikonia> Moral_: can you show me the output of the command "mount" in a pastebin please
[08:57] <MailGon> does anyone know why my partition that I JSUT made in gparted wont show up in windows installation?
[08:57] <ikonia> Amin__: please don't ask in here for suse support
[08:57] <Moral_> ikonia, sure.
[08:57] <MailGon> i made it an ntfs file system wtf
[08:58] <joaopinto> MailGon, windows does not identify ext partitions
[08:58] <ikonia> MailGon: the TOC needs to be re-read
[08:58] <MailGon> no, its ntfs
[08:58] <ikonia> MailGon: please control your language
[08:58] <MailGon> its not ext, i made sure it was ntfs
[08:58] <steppenwolf> ok would it be optimal?
[08:58] <MailGon> i made a new partition table, then a new partition (ntfs partition)
[08:58] <ikonia> MailGon: use windows to format windows partitions
[08:58] <MailGon> ....
[08:58] <MailGon> I cant........
[08:58] <ikonia> MailGon: using Linux to make a 3rd party closed source file system is not a good idea
[08:58] <MailGon> Im trying to INSTALL windows
[08:58] <ikonia> MailGon: why not ?
[08:59] <ikonia> MailGon: the installer will format the partition
[08:59] <MailGon> no
[08:59] <ikonia> MailGon: yes it will
[08:59] <MailGon> the partition doesnt show up
[08:59] <Moral_> ikonia, you want my entire mount or just the partition...
[08:59] <ikonia> MailGon: you do know you need two partitions to install windows, and it's fussy - it wants the first partition on the disk
[08:59] <ikonia> Moral_: just the output of the command "mount" on it's own please
[08:59] <MailGon> im on a netbook, and im running gparted off a usb so I can format linux partitions, and then I use my other USB to install windows
[09:00] <davide> non windows format. fdisk if possible
[09:00] <ikonia> MailGon: that makes no difference to what I've said
[09:00] <steppenwolf> ok chelz but would it be optimal?
[09:00] <MailGon> What do I do in linux?
[09:00] <MailGon> So I can get the partition to show up in windows installation
[09:00] <ikonia> MailGon: re-read what I've said, Windows wants two partitions, one at the start of the disk for the temporary space
[09:00] <Moral_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/eWu097pU
[09:00] <MailGon> so...it wants two then
[09:00] <MailGon> One primary and one unallocated
[09:01] <MailGon> correct?
[09:01] <ikonia> MailGon: the guys in ##windows will be able to give you the correct requirements for your windows OS
[09:01] <ikonia> Moral_: where is it mounted, I don't see an NTFS mouint on there
[09:02] <ikonia> Moral_: oh, it's it the media/DAD005----blah one
[09:02] <Moral_> yea
[09:02] <shankar021988> yas
[09:02] <ikonia> Moral_: I'm wrong http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/296-fat32-ntfs-write-permissions.html
[09:03] <ikonia> Moral_: I knew it didn't support permissions, but I thought they could be changeds, they can't
[09:03] <Moral_> ikonia, fuck.
[09:03] <Moral_> well
[09:04] <ikonia> Moral_: hey - control the language, that's not needed
[09:04] <Moral_> I got alot of work to do
[09:04] <Moral_> ikonia, sorry :S
[09:04] <marlena> hi, I cant login to my xubuntu 9.10 box, on gdm I enter correct password, computer thinks a while, flips resolutions and pops back with login screen, please help
[09:04] <Moral_> I'll boot back into windows and see what I can do.
[09:04] <chelz> steppenwolf: i only go with 64bit when i have more than 4 gigabytes of RAM
[09:04] <chelz> steppenwolf: everyone has their own system though
[09:04] <chelz> MailGon: install windows then install linux
[09:04] <chelz> steppenwolf: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:04] <FloodBot4> chelz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:06] <Moral_> ugh
[09:06] <Moral_> freebsd killed my MBR
[09:06] <Moral_> for windows
[09:06] <shankar021988> you re fix your mbr
[09:07] <Moral_> I cannot
[09:07] <Moral_> gonna have to get BartPE
[09:07] <MailGon> cant install windows..........
[09:07] <MailGon> theres no partitions to choose
[09:07] <shankar021988> ya just install in different partition
[09:08] <steppenwolf> ok I can watch youtube
[09:08] <hunahpu> MailGon: create a new partition...
[09:08] <TheMozart> anyone know if unetbootin works with alternative 9.10 .ISO?
[09:08] <chelz> TheMozart: i know for a fact it does
[09:08] <hunahpu> TheMozart: yes it should do
[09:08] <steppenwolf> but can not view in full screen
[09:08] <steppenwolf> nor use the buttons
[09:08] <TheMozart> chelz: cool.  so what option do I choose in unetbootin?
[09:08] <steppenwolf> think is something with flash player
[09:08] <chelz> TheMozart: Select ISO
[09:09] <TheMozart> chelz: unetbootin doesn't have alternative 9.10 as an option..it only shows 9.10 desktop ISO.
[09:09] <TheMozart> chelz: so what did you choose?
[09:09] <ZykoticK9> steppenwolf, are you on 64bit and are you using ubuntu-restricted-extras or flashplugin-installer for flash?
[09:09] <chelz> TheMozart: it should look like this: http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=167328
[09:09] <steppenwolf> I am on 64bit
[09:09] <chelz> TheMozart: select Disk Image
[09:10] <ZykoticK9> steppenwolf, http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/clicking-in-flash-not-working
[09:10] <TheMozart> chelz: yes it does.. so you mean ignore the top part and just choose "Diskimage" ISO?
[09:10] <steppenwolf> not using ubuntu restricted-extras nor flash plugin-installer
[09:10] <ZykoticK9> steppenwolf, what flash are you using?
[09:10] <chelz> TheMozart: yes i do. select the iso you have.
[09:10] <TheMozart> chelz: ok.. then press OK and it will write to USB stick?
[09:10] <chelz> TheMozart: btw that works with basically any linux iso. *linux*
[09:11] <chelz> TheMozart: make sure you have the right drive selected at the bottom
[09:11] <TheMozart> chelz: can I then install Ubuntu to my hard drive from the USB stick?
[09:11] <chelz> TheMozart: if your computer supports booting to usb devices, yes
[09:11] <TheMozart> chelz: next to "TYPE" it says "USB":
[09:12] <chelz> TheMozart: it will function just like a livecd
[09:12] <TheMozart> USB DRIVE
[09:12] <Moral_> ikonia, I guess my next question is this: I needed to chmod that file so apache could read it, as I wanted to watch my movies over my network. What Else can I do besides SSH to watch my movies?
[09:12] <TheMozart> chelz: no no no!!!  I have alternative version.. not livecd version
[09:12] <steppenwolf> only had RedHat linux 7.1-9e on www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install
[09:12] <chelz> TheMozart: right, i mean it will act like the disc if you had burned the iso
[09:12] <TheMozart> chelz: I told you.. I have this... ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.ISO
[09:13] <chelz> TheMozart: just select the usb drive. c'mon now.
[09:13] <ZykoticK9> steppenwolf, redhat?
[09:13] <TheMozart> chelz: so the USB stick will load an act as if I had have burned the ISO to a CD?
[09:13] <iceroot> !usb | TheMozart
[09:13] <chelz> TheMozart: uhh yes. i think
[09:14] <chelz> iceroot: that wikipage is so bad :(
[09:14] <TheMozart> chelz: you think???????????????  before you said you know for a FACT it works...and now you think???
[09:14] <iceroot> chelz: i dont mea the wiki-pake, i mean the help-ubuntu.com page
[09:14] <iceroot> TheMozart: yes the usb stick will work like a cd
[09:14] <iceroot> TheMozart: i was using it with the net-install image
[09:14] <TheMozart> chelz: TheMozart: i know for a fact it does ...... THEN YOU CHANGE STORY and say, "uhh yes. i think"???  Are you trolling me?
[09:15] <chelz> TheMozart: i'm not sure what you were saying. i know that it will act like a cd
[09:15] <TheMozart> iceroot: ok
[09:15] <iceroot> TheMozart: stop flaeming people here, if you dont like there support, use google
[09:15] <chelz> TheMozart: just do it. learn by doing. do it now.
[09:15] <sereph> aw i wanted to make the bot yell at him
[09:17] <MailGon> yes!! got windows install working!! no more linux!!! w00t!!!!!
[09:18] <iceroot> interesting, he can install ubuntu without problems but when installing windows, he needs support :)
[09:19] <Moral_> lol
[09:21] <Moral_> man this day is sucking more and more
[09:21] <Moral_> Stupid windows vista cd cant see windows 7
[09:22] <ikonia> well, we can't help with that but ##windows is you friendly help channel
[09:22] <chelz> Moral_: ##windows
[09:22] <fenre> why would you want vista when you have win7 anyway?
[09:22] <chelz> keep the trash in its place
[09:22] <Moral_> chelz, lol I know, I'm just bitching
[09:22] <hexdump_> vista ewwww
[09:22] <Moral_> fenre, trying to fix my MBR
[09:22] <fenre> then use linux ;)
[09:24] <mykie> anyone have any problems with empathy?
[09:24] <theadmin> mykie: What kind of problems?
[09:24] <fenre> Moral_: Why let windows screw things up for you when you can do it yourself? :P
[09:24] <coz_> mykie,  I dont use empathy so I cant help ...sorry
[09:24] <mykie> theadmin it refuses to sign in my msn accounts
[09:24] <Moral_> fenre, I know, right?
[09:24] <Moral_> lol
[09:25] <mykie> aim and anything else is fine
[09:25] <theadmin> mykie: Oh. Hm. I'm a pidgin user... So dunno actually.
[09:25] <mykie> I think i might switch to pidgin not sure why they changed it :(
[09:25] <ardchoille> video
[09:26] <coz_> mykie,  maybe because msn is now wlm?
[09:26] <chelz> mykie: you can check the bugreports page for empathy
[09:26] <theadmin> mykie: pidgin.im has instructions on installing Pidgin on Ubuntu (they broke it in 9.10 so one in Ubuntu's repos works no longer)
[09:26] <theadmin> ardchoille: What?
[09:26] <coz_> mykie,  they changed the name from microsoft network to window live messenger
[09:26] <theadmin> coz_: So what? :P It's still "MSN" in Pidgin, but it works.
[09:26] <ardchoille> theadmin: was under the impression that they switched to empathy from pidgin because of better video support in empathy
[09:27] <theadmin> ardchoille: Oh.
[09:27] <coz_> theadmin,  ok     I dont know from these messengers anyway :)
[09:27] <ardchoille> I quite like empath, been running fine here
[09:27] <theadmin> Interface is over-complicated, but otherwise it's quite neat
[09:28] <coz_> mykie,  see if you have telepathy=butterfly installed ... if so you could try to remove that and install  tlepathy-haze?   but i am not sure  if that will help
[09:28] <mykie> i will give it a go cheers!
[09:30] <theadmin> webhttrack has a cool piece of software, however, there seems to be something broken in Ubuntu package. After everything is finished, Firefox says it needs additional plugins to display all contents on the page, while there most certainly are no special elements. What the heck?
[09:30] <jordanl> how do i enter the grub menu during bootup in ubuntustudio? I try pressing Esc several times, but it always goes straight into the bootup splash and I never see a grub menu
[09:31] <theadmin> jordanl: Try holding down your Shift key
[09:33] <jordanl> theadmin: that worked. thanks so much
[09:34] <jordanl> theadmin: i thought Esc was the conventional default :(
[09:34] <theadmin> jordanl: They changed it in Grub 2
[09:35] <POE> so uhm. i disabled gdm from launching in ubuntu 9.04, because i just want a terminal, no x or gnome
[09:35] <ikonia> POE: ok
[09:35] <POE> but i dont get any login, and i only seem to have one tty
[09:35] <POE> how do i fix?
[09:36] <ikonia> how did you disable it
[09:36] <ikonia> POE: you tty is your login
[09:36] <Demiurge> Is there a way to check which version ntfs-3g that is being used? It is not installed from synaptic as the version there is an old one.
[09:36] <POE> ikonia: well i removed the links from the rcdirs
[09:36] <chelz> those multiple virtual terminals are the result of x i think
[09:36] <ikonia> Demiurge: how did you install it
[09:37] <POE> chelz: oh.
[09:37] <chelz> Demiurge: ntfs-3g --help
[09:37] <chelz> POE: login and look into gnu screen
[09:37] <POE> chelz: but i have no login prompt, thats the thing
[09:37] <theadmin> screen rocks!
[09:38] <Zerfmorgan> Hi everybody
[09:38] <Demiurge> ikonia: Downloaded the source and compiled it. So it should be the latest version. But I get errors that the faq says should be corrected "in the latest version", so I'd like to check.
[09:38] <POE> chelz: last initmsg is "setting Advanced Power Management level ... [OK]" and then nothing
[09:38] <theadmin> POE: Not even something like "$(hostname) login:"?
[09:38] <Demiurge> chelz: Thanks.
[09:38] <POE> theadmin: no, nothing like that
[09:38] <theadmin> POE: huh. Creepy.
[09:38] <chelz> POE: does ctrl alt fn keys do anything?
[09:39] <POE> lol im retarded. i was trying ctrl+alt+numbers before
[09:39] <POE> thanks chelz
[09:39] <ikonia> Demiurge: then you should know and understand the impact on doing that
[09:39] <chelz> POE: oh, well that's good to know
[09:39] <ikonia> Demiurge: which includes being able to check the version, changing NTFS-3g has massive implications
[09:39] <chelz> i wonder what drives those if not X
[09:40] <theadmin> chelz: X starts in tty7, so it can't drive tty's as it works in one :D
[09:40] <Zenker> which channel is for ubuntu 10.02?
[09:40] <POE> chelz: should be the normal getty's, X is normally running in tty7
[09:40] <theadmin> chelz: see: man 4 tty
[09:41] <theadmin> (not sure if it's the right one because i don't get some of stuff there)
[09:42] <chelz> theadmin: i was looking into vterm stuff not too long ago and i thought i read something about them being part of X. but alright, i'll check that out
[09:43] <theadmin> chelz: Uh, virtual terminal can be something like gnome-terminal or xterm, which obviously is a part of X
[09:44] <chelz> yeah i mean the ctrl+alt+fn ones for sure tho
[09:44] <theadmin> bleh this stuff jumping in background makes my head hurt lol
[09:44] <joaopinto> a xterm is not a virtual terminal, is a terminal emulator :P
[09:44] <Demiurge> ikonia: Well, didn't have much of a choice. Or at least not much to lose.. It didn't work with the old ntfs-3g version.
[09:44] <joaopinto> you usually refer to VTs as console terminals
[09:45] <chelz> Demiurge: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[09:46] <Avasz> how do i know what is my vga card memory?
[09:46] <Demiurge> chelz: 9.10
[09:47] <chelz> Avasz: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-find-linux-vga-video-card-ram/
[09:47] <ania_> Avasz, type lshw in terminal and search after graphic card
[09:47] <Mannoroth> ÏÈÄÀÐÀÑÛ
[09:47] <Avasz> ania_, thanks
[09:47] <chelz> !ru | Mannoroth
[09:48] <karim_frl> hello evry one
[09:48] <pagore> hi all :), does someone know something about the Nautilus Emblemes?   I mean the icons, which you can find under
[09:48] <pagore> "rightClick on File or Folder --->Properties --->Tab to Emblems ---> chose an embleme".
[09:48] <pagore> does someone know where the metafile is saved? :)
[09:48] <chelz> !hi | karim_frl
[09:48] <Steppenwolf1> Hi everyone how do I set flash for Ubuntu?
[09:48] <karim_frl> hi chelz
[09:48] <theadmin> chelz: That most certainly was NOT russian
[09:48] <karim_frl> it is my first time here
[09:48] <chelz> pagore: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/88993-adding-emblems.html
[09:48] <theadmin> Steppenwolf1: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[09:48] <Steppenwolf1> I need the flash and also the SVG
[09:49] <chelz> theadmin: he's connecting from a russian ip, that's what i go off of mose of the time
[09:49] <theadmin> Steppenwolf1: svg? Firefox opens those fine by default
[09:49] <theadmin> chelz: Well, he's not using UTF8, because what i saw was "????????"
[09:49] <chelz> Steppenwolf1: 64 or 32bit?
[09:49] <shankar021988> 32
[09:49] <chelz> theadmin: i saw letters with a lot of umlaut-like stuff
[09:50] <Steppenwolf1> 64
[09:50] <chelz> !flash64 | Steppenwolf1
[09:50] <RPG-Master> OK, I know this was caused by updating the beta, but I've lost all my mail in Evolution! Does Evolution store I auto-backup anywhere?
[09:50] <chelz> RPG-Master: lucid support is in #ubuntu+1
[09:50] <RPG-Master> I know :(
[09:50] <RPG-Master> but no one up in there knows :(
[09:51] <chelz> you could try searching lucid bugs for stuff related to evolution
[09:51] <theadmin> chelz: That is not russian then :P We have nothing like this... well, one letter Our whole alphabet: абвгдеёжзиклмнопрстуфхсчьъыэюя
[09:51] <Steppenwolf1> ok thanks ubottu
[09:51] <chelz> theadmin: ah yeah no idea
[09:51] <RPG-Master> I assume if it can be fixed it would be the same way no matter the version
[09:51] <Steppenwolf1> ok
[09:52] <chelz> RPG-Master: well generally i'd say people already using lucid would be more likely to be helpful than people here since they're more like to have encountered a bug and the fix for that bug than people in here
[09:52] <RPG-Master> chelz: eh... ok
[09:53] <theadmin> bleh. FF 3.5.8 on Ubuntu has a strange bug, sometimes it randomly goes on reloading the page forever until you hit the Reload or Stop button manually or retype the adress. What's this? Never encountered it on Windows.
[09:54] <ikonia> theadmin: that's most often a DNS/router issues
[09:54] <chelz> could also be due to the page not being able to set cookies for some reason
[09:54] <theadmin> ikonia: Hm... Router? Have no such stuff... then maybe DNS.
[09:54] <Steppenwolf1> hey Ubottu in that link says (Not officially supported by Ubuntu)!!
[09:55] <theadmin> Steppenwolf1: don't try to talk with ubottu, it's a program :D
[09:55] <dmhouse> Hi guys. I've just bought an Acer Aspire 5536 and put Karmic on it. There's a problem that the fan just stays on all the time. How would I go about fixing this
[09:55] <Steppenwolf1> heheheh ok
[09:55] <SandGorgon> anyone know of any remote-deskktop client able to connect to Win Server 2008 : rdesktop does not . I'm willing to purchase commercial software
[09:55] <dmhouse> s/$/?/
[09:56] <Steppenwolf1> so how do I install the flash plugins for 64 bits?
[09:56] <ikonia> Steppenwolf1: rdesktop should
[09:56] <ikonia> oops
[09:56] <ikonia> SandGorgon: rdesktop should
[09:56] <pagore> chelz: Hi chelz, your reply showed how i can add emblemes, but i want the file(s) where the information of which file has an embleme and which has not is saved. :)
[09:56] <pagore> Let me give an example, ich i style an folder with an embleme, then i copy all this folders to an other computer (under Ubuntu 9.10)
[09:56] <pagore> On my other Computer i cant see the emblemes.
[09:56] <SandGorgon> dmhouse, play with the swappiness and other swap settings in sysctl
[09:56] <Steppenwolf1> rdesktop?
[09:56] <ikonia> Steppenwolf1: that wasn't for you - sorry
[09:57] <snaKe> is there any proxy support for ubuntu one ?
[09:57] <Steppenwolf1> heheh ok
[09:57] <MadPad> Has anyone managed to use pacemaker on ubuntu ?  I need to create a two-node mysql cluster with shared storage but I can't find anything on the web about it, everyone utilizes drbd
[09:57] <pagore> chelz: ich = if (sry)
[09:57] <SandGorgon> ikonia, nope.. if u turn on tls security in Server 2008 (which uses rdp protocol > 5.2),, it does not
[09:57] <chelz> pagore: that would be something that's part of gnome. i don't think that can be easily transferred.
[09:57] <inthevidual> hey. I am doing a custom remaster of Ubuntu, using wicd as the networkmanager
[09:58] <inthevidual> and I was wondering, how can I make the system add users to the netdev group by default?
[09:58] <chelz> pagore: /apps/nautilus/desktop-metadata seems to be where's it's store in gconf
[09:58] <Trezker> A large program running in wine just crashed for me, its process is gone but the memory is still occupied. Help?
[09:58] <chelz> pagore: you'll have to look into syncing gconf stuff
[09:58] <pagore> chelz: sec :)
[09:59] <theadmin> chelz: syncing gconf is as simple as "cp $HOME/.gconf /someplace"
[09:59] <dmhouse> SandGorgon: why would settings to do with swap affect the fan usage?>
[10:00] <Moral_> where is a cdrom usually in /dev/?
[10:00] <banshee_> chelz: Everything is working now that I installed with the ethernet cord plugged in
[10:00] <theadmin> Moral_: /dev/cdrom0
[10:00] <chelz> theadmin: oh, alright then. that's good. but i'd imagine there's quite a few different things in gconf so syncing it all might not be ideal
[10:00] <theadmin> ...or is it?
[10:00] <Localhost666> hi, someone knows what's the channel of algorithms and data structures?
[10:00] <retybok> What is the best netbook for linux? My main criteria are robustness and linux compatibility. Can someone point me to a decent and recent comparison?
[10:00] <SandGorgon> dmhouse, ur disk might be spinning continously. also check if ur processor is being scaled down appropriately
[10:00] <theadmin> chelz: Well, $HOME/.gconf is a folder. Choose what you want :P
[10:00] <tarzeau> i've got a hp mini one
[10:00] <chelz> banshee_: ah, good to hear. yeah i made that mistake not too long ago with debian, installing with an ethernet cord plugged in helped a lot
[10:01] <chelz> pagore: i guess check out ~/.gconf
[10:01] <banshee_> chelz: Yeah :) how do I make sure my video card is the latest, and whats the apt-get for shockwave again I cannot remember, been a while since I had linux
[10:01] <theadmin> banshee_: Shockwave? You mean Flash, right?
[10:01] <iceroot> retybok: asus eepcs, doesnt matter which one
[10:01] <Moral_> theadmin, thanks
[10:01] <chelz> banshee_: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:02] <dmhouse> SandGorgon: it doesn't look like the disc is spinning continuously. How do I check the processor scaling?
[10:02] <theadmin> chelz: That also gives a ton of useless crap such as mp3 codecs :/
[10:02] <iceroot> banshee_: there is no shockwave for linux
[10:02] <chelz> banshee_: for your video card System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[10:02] <banshee_> chelz: Yeah I mean't flash sorry
[10:02] <chelz> theadmin: it's a nice shotgun way to deal with format/codec/etc issues
[10:02] <chelz> !flash | banshee_
[10:02] <theadmin> banshee_: For 9.04 and up: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer, for 8.10 and lower: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:02] <kepy> i
[10:02] <retybok> iceroot: I have an asuss eee900, but the build is shit. The keyboard is pure crap
[10:03] <theadmin> chelz: A nicer way is sudo apt-get install vlc ;)
[10:03] <retybok> are the newer ones better?
[10:03] <iceroot> retybok: like your language
[10:03] <retybok> sorry :-/
[10:03] <iceroot> retybok: for hardware have a look at ##hardware
[10:03] <retybok> ok, thanks
[10:03] <Steppenwolf1> chelz: so how do I install flash plugins for 64 bits?
[10:04] <snaKe> ubuntu-one proxy conf ?
[10:04] <Maleko> guys, when you add your user account into other group, shouldnt you be able to peek into dirs of other users that also belong to the group?
[10:04] <ikonia> Steppenwolf1: just install the pacakge "flashplugin-nonfree"
[10:05] <ikonia> Maleko: depends if the directory has group read / execute permisions
[10:05] <theadmin> snaKe: Uh, i think Ubuntu One follows GNOME's proxy settings
[10:05] <Steppenwolf1> got this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava from bot but it says is not officially supported by Ubuntu
[10:05] <ikonia> Steppenwolf1: just install the package "flashplugin-nonfree" - that's it
[10:05] <Steppenwolf1> ohhh Thanks iknonia!!!
[10:06] <karim_frl> linux is beter than windows
[10:06] <Maleko> ikonia: drwxr-x--x  6 www       www
[10:06] <theadmin> something's running on port 8080. I wanna kill whatever is. How?
[10:06] <ikonia> Maleko: and are you a member of the "www" group
[10:06] <chelz> Steppenwolf1: if you have trouble with the official flash player, try out that guide
[10:06] <Maleko> i already add my user account into www group but im still not able to ls the dir
[10:07] <Steppenwolf1> ok I'll try the official one
[10:07] <Maleko> groups maleko, output= maleko : maleko www
[10:08] <snaKe> ikonia, how to configure ubuntu-one proxy setting ?
[10:08] <theadmin> snaKe: It follows GNOME's proxy settings. Told you.
[10:08] <Steppenwolf1> hey do I install the Flashplugin-installer first?
[10:08] <theadmin> Steppenwolf1: Nah, that's for i386/32-bit
[10:08] <Steppenwolf1> or directly the flashpligin-nonfree?
[10:08] <Steppenwolf1> ok
[10:09] <theadmin> Maleko: Huh? That's very strange. For me, output of "groups r00t" looks like this: "r00t adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare"
[10:10] <theadmin> (r00t is my username)
[10:10] <Maleko> theadmin: 9.10?
[10:10] <theadmin> Maleko: Yes
[10:10]  * theadmin is always on latest stable release :D
[10:11] <snaKe> theadmin, i have tried that, but not working. which port does it connect to ?
[10:11] <banshee_> chelz: When I try to setup Seperate X Screen, I try to click Save to X configuration file, and it tells me it failed to parse or something, any idea?
[10:12] <theadmin> snaKe: Not really any idea.
[10:12] <chelz> banshee_: are you using nvidia settings?
[10:12] <banshee_> chelz: yes
[10:12] <pagore> chelz: ok u are in the right, the information about emblemes is realy saved in ~/.gconf , now i just need to find out where exactly :)
[10:12] <banshee_> chelz I went System > Admin > Nvidia
[10:13] <chelz> banshee_: yeah ubuntu doesn't have an xorg.conf since i think jaunty, you have to make one
[10:13] <banshee_> chelz oh ok ill google this
[10:13] <chelz> banshee_: try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[10:14] <chelz> banshee_: then open up nvidia settings again
[10:14] <Maleko>  <theadmin> Maleko: Huh? That's very strange. For me, output of "groups r00t" looks like this: "r00t adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare"
[10:14] <Maleko> ^ admin account
[10:14] <theadmin> Maleko: Oh.
[10:15] <slacker-> Hi
[10:15] <banshee_> chelz: I just realised I have no sound :)
[10:15] <chelz> banshee_: yeah that's the most common issue i saw when googling for your computer
[10:16] <banshee_> chelz: WAs there a fix?
[10:16] <MauL^> I am running a web server on my local and it replies very fast but when I do a request from another machine in the same network, the reply comes very late.. I think there is something that slows down the operation.. what can be? I've opened the firewall necessary port ... what do you suggest me ?
[10:16] <slacker-> I'm getting a few of those recently: INFO: task xyz blocked for more than 120 seconds.
[10:16] <chelz> banshee_: i didn't read any of it since you didn't mention that issue. try googling your model number and ubuntu and you'll see stuff on it
[10:16] <banshee_> chelz: Will do
[10:16] <slacker-> I've upgraded /home from ext3 to ext4. Running karmic on 2.6.31-20-server 64bit
[10:17] <slacker-> any idea where this might come from?
[10:18] <theadmin> slacker-: Where do you get those?
[10:18] <slacker-> with those messages comes a call trace
[10:18] <slacker-> theadmin: in syslog
[10:18] <Duzchip> Hi, i just upgraded ubuntu from 9.10 to 10.04 to try it out
[10:18] <Duzchip> i found one problem
[10:18] <chelz> !lucid | Duzchip
[10:18] <theadmin> Duzchip: Lucid support in #ubuntu+1
[10:18] <Duzchip> oh sorry
[10:18] <Duzchip> thanks
[10:21] <man0riaX> Morning
[10:21] <chelz> slacker-: googling for that brings up a lot of stuff
[10:21] <chelz> you might try seeing if there's a bug in launchpad around ext4 related to what you're experiencing
[10:22] <Steppenwolf1> ok Flash seems to be working fine
[10:22] <chelz> Steppenwolf1: try youtube, play some games, make sure
[10:22] <Steppenwolf1> I now have to install SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics)
[10:23] <Steppenwolf1> used to be managed by Adobe
[10:23] <theadmin> Steppenwolf1: You don't install them :/ Firefox opens them right away. You can edit them with The GIMP.
[10:23] <banshee_> chelz: lol..... sound was muted xD
[10:23] <Steppenwolf1> ohhh let me try
[10:23] <chelz> banshee_: aha, that's a good way to not have sound
[10:24] <chelz> banshee_: i take it the xconfig thing worked?
[10:24] <farsight> hi all
[10:24] <banshee_> chelz: Sorry what are you referring to, the display question I had?
[10:24] <nino> hi all
[10:25] <chelz> banshee_: yeah, where nvidia settins wasn't working. i was asking if running xconfig fixed it
[10:25] <slacker-> chelz: yes, in fact so much that I didn't know where to start
[10:26] <theadmin> xconfig? Hm, that's something new :D
[10:26] <chelz> theadmin: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[10:26] <theadmin> (For me, that is)
[10:26] <banshee_> chelz: Brb, and i havent tried yet :)
[10:26] <farsight> can anyone offer a simple explanation for the most effective way to autologin on xchat start up, where the nickserv name is farsight?
[10:26]  * theadmin haz an ATI video card, chelz
[10:26] <chelz> banshee_: ah alright, keep me posted :)
[10:27] <farsight> I am somewhat confused by where I add /msg NickServ identify farsight <password>
[10:27] <chelz> theadmin: ah. well, nvidia does a decent job with their drivers currently. it's gonna suck if/when they ever start dropping support.
[10:27] <chelz> actually, i wonder what the level of support is for vdpau in the OSS driver
[10:27] <theadmin> vdpau? Video Driver Power Allocation Unit? (just a guess)
[10:28] <puliszka> yo yo yo reggelt
[10:28] <erUSUL> farsight: depends on the irc client you use. many have a dialog to just put you password
[10:28] <Steppenwolf1> No they didnt work out with firefox
[10:28] <Steppenwolf1> how do I edit them?
[10:28] <theadmin> Steppenwolf1: Hm. Wikipedia has a buncha svg images, all of them open fine
[10:28] <Steppenwolf1> with the GIMP?
[10:28] <theadmin> Steppenwolf1: Yeah, GIMP can edit those allright
[10:28] <farsight> I'm logging in to freenode using the xchat client
[10:28] <iceroot> Steppenwolf1: for svg you will use inkscape
[10:29] <ringer> farsight - I (think) you can do a /msg anywhere - the point of the / is that noone else sees it in channel
[10:29] <chelz> could also try inkscape
[10:29] <chelz> hi5 iceroot
[10:29] <theadmin> iceroot: Huh, I'm sure i saw an option to save as SVG in GIMP
[10:29] <chelz> theadmin: it's a video decoding hardware acceleration thing
[10:29] <iceroot> theadmin: yes but gimp is not common for svg
[10:29] <Steppenwolf1> ohh ok but those are dinamical images
[10:30] <chelz> farsight:  a lot of clients have support for automatically doing the password thing for you in the options of servers you have setup to connect to
[10:30] <ringer> farsight if you want to test things out try  #freenode channel
[10:30] <farsight> thanks for the info people
[10:30] <farsight> i'll give it a whirl
[10:30] <banshee_> chelz: What would you suggest for some good things to get?
[10:30] <iceroot> theadmin: using svg with gimp is like surfing with the internet-explorer, you can do it but its a bad idea because there are better programs
[10:30] <Steppenwolf1> I got this message Additional plugins are required to display all teh media on this page
[10:30] <chelz> banshee_: what kind of "things"
[10:31] <theadmin> iceroot: surfing with IE? No, that's more like sinking... or even worse.
[10:31] <banshee_> chelz: Dunno just some helpful things that I might find helpful along the way in linux :)
[10:31] <iceroot> theadmin: but now you know what i mean :)
[10:31] <chelz> banshee_: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html and http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:32] <theadmin> iceroot: Well, for me gimp is one huge "o_O" anyway
[10:32] <banshee_> chelz: I just installed a program I wanted called TinTin++ How do I run it from the terminal?
[10:32] <chelz> banshee_: also http://www.commandlinefu.com
[10:32] <csaba> how can I find out when was a file created?
[10:32] <chelz> banshee_: read that UsingTheTerminal
[10:32] <csaba> the file properties dialog only shows the time last modified...
[10:32] <banshee_> chelz: Its not loading the commandline page
[10:33] <chelz> banshee_: might have to refresh
[10:33] <banshee_> chelz: Whats the command to run a program?
[10:34] <SealedWithAKiss> I have connected a secondary monitor to my graphics card. The sharpness of the image on my original monitor has always been excellent, however since connecting the second monitor I have noticed a reduction in quality on my original monitor coupled with increased image quality on the monitor that I have added. I am using an ATI Radeon 4600 HD card with a monitor connected via VGA and another monitor connected vi
[10:34] <SealedWithAKiss> a a HDMI to DVI lead. Can anybody help? I also want to connect both monitors horizontally so that each displays 1/2 of my desktop. Under Ubuntu 9.04?
[10:34] <theadmin> banshee_: just the full program path (or if you are in directory with the prog, then... ./progfile)
[10:34] <chelz> banshee_: the name of the program usually. you can type the first few letters of a command and then hit the tab key to complete it. this is called tab completion
[10:34] <chelz> banshee_: tab completion also works in most irc clients for nicks
[10:35] <banshee_> chelz: I don't know where this program was saved too, how would I find tintin++
[10:35] <theadmin> banshee_: How did you install it?
[10:36] <cemc> I'm using Chrome on Karmic and I have a strange problem. clicks on flash stuff (for example youtube) don't seem to work. only after I do a right-click, then left-click, does it work... is there some known problem with this?
[10:37] <chelz> banshee_: there are certain folders that are in a list called your PATH. it's visible by running "echo $PATH". in the terminal you can run any binary in any of those folders just by typing the name of it
[10:37] <SandGorgon> anybody know of cheap (possibly ebay-ish) 5Ghz wireless-N usb adapters? We are planning to buy a load of Linux desktops and set up wireless, rather than wired. dunno what compatibility I should be looking for
[10:38] <psycho_oreos> atheros and ralink are generally recommended for linux 802.11n wireless
[10:40] <obscurant1st> in my karic i am not able to install wicd because of the borken packages as the error says
[10:40] <chelz> SandGorgon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> SandGorgon, see above
[10:40] <SandGorgon> oh ok.. thanks
[10:40] <obscurant1st> but i am not able to fix it, i tried the topion form synaptics, it not working.
[10:40] <karim_frl> hello again
[10:42] <obscurant1st> somebody?
[10:42] <psycho_oreos> SandGorgon, btw what I wrote are chipset manufacturers, not vendors
[10:42] <rocket16> Is there any Wikipedia programme for Ubuntu? Like A Wikipedia Deskbar or something, such that it, like a prism, opens Wikipedia articles?
[10:42] <xubunto> a litle help with xubuntu: i have no sound. thge driver is loaded, and the system can see it
[10:42] <obscurant1st> rocket16, try adobe air apps
[10:43] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, pastebin your error log
[10:43] <rocket16> obscurant1st: Ok, trying it now,
[10:43] <chelz> obscurant1st: try to install using apt-get in the terminal and pastebin what you get
[10:43] <chelz> !pastebin | obscurant1st
[10:43] <SandGorgon> psycho_oreos, i figured. the wiki page lists mostly G-wireless.. not N
[10:43] <obscurant1st> ok
[10:43] <theadmin> Can i tell metacity not give focus to newly opened apps? That is annoying already that each time i start firefox and then try to type in Pidgin it goes to FF's adress bar
[10:44] <psycho_oreos> SandGorgon, try http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers
[10:44] <obscurant1st> http://pastie.org/911148 psycho_oreos chelz
[10:44] <MauL^> I am running a web server on my local and it replies very fast but when I do a request from another machine in the same network, the reply comes very late.. I think there is something that slows down the operation.. what can be? I've opened the firewall necessary port ... what do you suggest me ?
[10:45] <Gangrel> is there any online radio recorder for gnome?
[10:45] <rocket16> Any channel for light-weight discussion about Ubuntu other than Offtopic channel?
[10:45] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, which version is this ubuntu in question?
[10:45] <obscurant1st> oh, Karmic it is, psycho_oreos
[10:45] <obscurant1st> 9.10
[10:45] <rocket16> Gangrel: Try GNOME Radio
[10:46] <chelz> obscurant1st: pastebin the output of this:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:46] <obscurant1st> ok
[10:47] <theadmin> MauL^: Are there any speed limits set on ingoing connections from other machines?
[10:48] <rocket16> obscurant1st: I got a nice application, known as Golden-Dict, for Wikipedia. Thanks for your help though.
[10:49] <phani> Hi.. I need some help.. I have somehow changed the permission of /etc/sudoers and now when i try to do sudo its asking me to change the permissions of the file to 0440 ...so any ideas how can be done ?
[10:49] <theadmin> rocket16: Make one :P My Ubuntu blog has a channel but no one there at the moment :/
[10:49] <phani> Will this be possible if i login through recovery mode ?
[10:49] <obscurant1st> rocket16, thx for the info too , :D
[10:49] <theadmin> phani: Yes, do so, drop to root shell, then tell it "chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers"
[10:49] <rocket16> theadmin: Good advice, :) Thanks, :D
[10:49] <chelz> phani: yes. select Recovery Mode and pick the Shell option. then chmod the file like theadmin says
[10:49] <rocket16> obscurant1st: You are welcome, :)
[10:50] <phani> theadmin/chelz: thanks a lot
[10:51] <Moral_> god windows sucks so hard
[10:51] <Moral_> messing everything up
[10:51] <ikonia> Moral_: don't need to hear about it in here
[10:51] <theadmin> Moral_: Bootloader?
[10:52] <chelz> Moral_: have linux as the only installed OS and run other bad stuff in VMs
[10:52] <Moral_> theadmin, yea, now lilo, or what ever I was using failed
[10:52] <chelz> virtualbox works wonderfully, especially with this mode where it blends in
[10:52] <Moral_> chelz, yea I usually do that but this is a new c omp
[10:52] <theadmin> Moral_: lilo?... That doesn't boot windows :/ Use GRUB
[10:52] <chelz> Moral_: so do it again
[10:52] <obscurant1st> http://pastie.org/911151 chelz psycho_oreos
[10:52] <Moral_> yea grub
[10:53] <Moral_> not lilo couldnt remember what Iwas using
[10:53] <chelz> i know lilo did fine with windows xp, not sure about later versions
[10:53] <Moral_> and could only remember lilo
[10:53] <theadmin> Moral_: lol what's the problem anyway... boot from live CD, tell it to "grub-install /dev/sda" (or whatever drive is), then chroot to this disk and do update-grub
[10:53] <chelz> obscurant1st: ok now pastebin the output of:   sudo apt-get install python-urwid
[10:53] <Moral_> theadmin, I will tomorrow
[10:54] <jolaren^away> Hey guys.. I want to protect a file from beeing deleted of my desktop
[10:54] <Moral_> getting tired 4 am
[10:54] <Moral_> losing my cool :(
[10:54] <jolaren^away> It's a public computer and the file itself is Firefox
[10:54] <chelz> jolaren^away: it's ubuntu?
[10:54] <jolaren^away> chelz: yes, or ubuntu mini
[10:54] <chelz> jolaren^away: do you have root access?
[10:54] <theadmin> jolaren^away: chmod 700 ~/Desktop/firefox-filename
[10:54] <jolaren^away> chelz: yes
[10:54] <obscurant1st> http://pastie.org/911157 chelz
[10:54] <jolaren^away> theadmin: firefox-filename?
[10:55] <theadmin> jolaren^away: Whatever the filename is, i dunno :P
[10:55] <chelz> jolaren^away: i'd make a separate account for public use, in addition to your account that you can use for administration purposes
[10:55] <jolaren^away> chelz: that has already been made. ofcourse
[10:55] <chelz> obscurant1st: ok now pastebin the output of:   apt-cache policy python-urwid
[10:56] <jolaren^away> i've removed the gnome-panel and i've setup pessulus and gnome-lockdown-tools
[10:56] <psycho_oreos> !info python-urwid
[10:56] <chelz> jolaren^away: just make sure the permissions on it are -w
[10:56] <chelz> psycho_oreos: i checked on packages.ubuntu.com and it seems to be in karmic
[10:56] <jolaren^away> brb 2 sec
[10:56] <obscurant1st> http://pastie.org/911163 chelz
[10:57] <psycho_oreos> chelz, well obscurant1st is running karmic but I'm presuming that file may not be available at his local repo
[10:57] <jolaren^away> chelz: i've set chmod 700 on the "firefox.desktop" now
[10:57] <chelz> psycho_oreos: yeah that might be, that really shouldn't happen
[10:57] <jolaren^away> do I need to set chmod 700 firefox.desktop -w?
[10:57] <chelz> jolaren^away: chmod a-w should be fine
[10:58] <jolaren^away> will that prohibit the removal of the icon?
[10:58] <chelz> 755 and if its owned by the admin account
[10:58] <chelz> jolaren^away: as long as the public account does not have write access, yes
[10:58] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, chelz in that case can i do anything?
[10:58] <theadmin> jolaren^away: Okay cool, now nobody can modify/erase the file except for your account... do chmod 300 if you want to disable it for your own account as well.
[10:59] <imi> hello
[10:59] <theadmin> chelz: a-w? :/ those letter systems are way confusing
[10:59] <theadmin> imi: Hi.
[10:59] <psycho_oreos> chelz, could just be a bad sync
[10:59] <chelz> theadmin: a u g o :: all users groups other
[10:59] <jolaren^away> theadmin: got more tips on how to secure the environment? running pessulus, removed the gnome-panel and setup gnome-lockdown-tools
[10:59] <imi> I have desktopcouch installed, but I can't tell if it was installed by me, or it was installed originally by Ubuntu
[10:59] <rocket16> theadmin: I created one such channel, :) May I say the name of it here, such that People can join? (Just a single line information, and nothing else)
[10:59] <chelz> psycho_oreos: hmm yeah
[10:59] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, try another ubuntu repo mirror, and do sudo aptitude update followed by installing wicd
[11:00] <chelz> obscurant1st: you'll have to change your package sources
[11:00] <theadmin> chelz: i'm used to hearing it as "ugw" (user, group, welt)
[11:00] <theadmin> err world
[11:00] <theadmin> XDDD
[11:00] <chelz> obscurant1st: System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[11:00] <jolaren^away> I'd say the system is pretty secure now
[11:00] <imi> so, is it common desktopcouch to be installed on a desktop Ubuntu instance?
[11:00] <jolaren^away> I've disabled all possibilities of opening a shell
[11:00] <chelz> theadmin: i've never heard of that before. w is write in chmod at least
[11:00] <theadmin> jolaren^away: are you sure? :/ Doubt it
[11:00] <psycho_oreos> theadmin, its also known as ugo (user, group, others)
[11:00] <TheMozart> how can I connnect to my router which is wireless ?
[11:00] <theadmin> psycho_oreos, chelz: Well, will know
[11:01] <chelz> jolaren^away: grsecurity and SELinux is secure ;)
[11:01] <iamtrying> i am trying local file 1.jpg (user:root,group:root) to upload ftp /tmp or /var/www/html/here(user: 0, group:0) but nothing gets uploaded. HELP!
[11:01] <rocket16> theadmin: Friend, please give the permission. I created one such channel, :) May I say the name of it here, such that People can join? (Just a single line information, and nothing else)
[11:01] <jolaren^away> theadmin: chelz tho 300 prohibits of executing the file ;)
[11:01] <chelz> jolaren^away: also make sure any directories they have write access to are set to notexecutable
[11:01] <psycho_oreos> TheMozart, got a wireless adapter?
[11:01] <theadmin> rocket16: I am not a real admin, ask one of the ops. Although i don't think it will be wrong to do so
[11:01] <chelz> rocket16: nope, that's offtopic
[11:01] <TheMozart> psycho_oreos: im connected to it now in Vista.. about to install ubuntu..
[11:01] <rocket16> theadmin: Oh, thanks
[11:02] <jolaren^away> chelz: ive set it to 700 now, a bit scared of tryin to remove the icon cuz i've removed the bin n all click acess
[11:02] <theadmin> jolaren^away: Huh, no? 1= execute 2 = write 4 = read... Oh right, not 3. 5.
[11:02] <jolaren^away> will be a bit hard to restore the icon
[11:02] <MauL^> theadmin, how can I check that ? thats a fresh ubuntu 9.10 install
[11:02] <psycho_oreos> jolaren^away, no it allows execute and write but not read, afaik 4 is read 2 is write and 1 is execute
[11:02] <TheMozart> psycho_oreos: im running laptop, wirleess .  how I connect to router in Ubuntu?
[11:02] <jolaren^away> theadmin: 500, right..
[11:02] <nino_> hi all
[11:02] <rocket16> chelz: Yes, but a single line does not matter much, does it? And, doing this will help us to popularise the channel, :)
[11:02] <theadmin> MauL^: If you don't know, you don't have those limits.
[11:02] <psycho_oreos> TheMozart, if you have wired connection, I'd use that just in case if wireless doesn't work
[11:02] <chelz> jolaren^away: also make sure any directories they have write access to are set to notexecutable
[11:03] <theadmin> MauL^: Okay, then... is this Apache? Lighttpd? Something else?
[11:03] <prof> oiiiiiiiiiiii
[11:03] <TheMozart> psycho_oreos: ill ask again... wireless? how I tell ubuntu to locate and connecty to my router?
[11:03] <MauL^> theadmin, that's webrick.
[11:03] <theadmin> MauL^: Oh. No idea about what it even is o_O
[11:03] <psycho_oreos> TheMozart, look for network manger icon
[11:03] <TheMozart> anyone know how I tell ubuntu to locate and connect to my router using wireless?
[11:03] <liveuser999> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9097294#post9097294
[11:04] <MauL^> theadmin, it is a basic web server on ruby. it works fast on my local, no problem with that. but the next machine waits more than 30 seconds for each request.. there is something in the network I dont understand
[11:04] <liveuser999> Two  months and still the same issue, what do i do????????
[11:04] <liveuser999> I'm on a fedora live dvd, what do i do, quit ubuntu?
[11:05] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, its offtopic, ask in #fedora
[11:05] <chelz> liveuser999: is having a modem not an option for some reason?
[11:05] <rocket16> Friends, I created a new Channel, named ##linux-freedom Please join, and it is free, about any Linux-related lightweight discussion. Please, feel free to join.
[11:05] <chelz> liveuser999: if you are using another distro then you should ask them for support
[11:05] <rocket16> Sorry all, if I broke the rules to say the name here.
[11:05] <liveuser999> i'm using ubuntu 9.10 amd 64
[11:06] <ignorant> ns register <yangchen> ignorant_1210@hotmail.com
[11:06] <chelz> liveuser999: is having a modem not an option for some reason?
[11:06] <ignorant> join #ubuntu-cn
[11:06] <liveuser999> i just got fedora in order to talk with you because my pppoe connection won't last in ubuntu
[11:06] <jolaren^away> I'm still a bit stumbled on what rights I should give the file
[11:07] <liveuser999> chelz,  why do i need a modem when i have a broadband connection with a username and password?
[11:07] <chelz> jolaren^away: make sure it is owned by your administrator account and give it permissions of 755
[11:07] <ignorant>  
[11:08] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, that is still deemed as a modem even if its broadband connection
[11:08] <ignorant> yeah
[11:08] <chelz> jolaren^away: you can do this by running:    sudo chown jolaren:jolaren /home/public/Desktop/Firefox.desktop && sudo chmod 755 /home/public/Desktop/Firefox.desktop
[11:08] <chelz> jolaren^away: make sure any *directories* they have write access to are set to notexecutable
[11:08] <jolaren^away> chelz: i've done that already tho
[11:08] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  why?  if the connection worked fine why do i need a modem?
[11:08] <chelz> jolaren^away: that should work then.
[11:09] <jolaren^away> tho the other user have sudo rights
[11:09] <chelz> jolaren^away: that's probably not a good idea for a public thing.
[11:09] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, and how exactly are you connected to internet with broadband? a modem from your computer no?
[11:09] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  no...a lan cable and using the pppoe protocol!
[11:10] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, and that lan cable goes to exactly where? a modem? no?
[11:10] <chelz> liveuser999: you could try the mailing list of the package you are using to do the pppoe stuff. or on an ubuntu mailing list.
[11:11] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos, no, i have a fiber optic cable in my house, then a spliter for a thelephone line and a lan line...not a modem a spliter
[11:11] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1446646 read my post
[11:12] <liveuser999> chelz,  :| i tried to talk with many people but no fix
[11:13] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, so why not use something like networkmanager?
[11:14] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  tried....still the same...the network manager is bugged as hell
[11:14] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  added a dsl connection..thicked available to all users then the dsl connection dissapears:|
[11:15] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  what kind of network manager is this?:|
[11:15] <girish> help
[11:15] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, its supposed to simplify the whole process, have you given i386 a try?
[11:15] <psycho_oreos> !ask | girish
[11:16] <digifor> My friends hasee desktop computer locks up the mouse after only using it for a short time.
[11:17] <Moral_> how do I get gnome-network-manager's icon on my panel?
[11:17] <psycho_oreos> digifor, tried pressing the lock keys on the keyboard to see if the LEDs illuminate?
[11:17] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  the same...used amd64 and x86 same problem
[11:17] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, and what exactly is plog? dmesg?
[11:18] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos, plog, a Unix command that lists the log file of Point-to-Point Protocol daemon connections
[11:18] <digifor> no reaction psycho_oreos
[11:18] <tertitten> are Ubuntu supposed to use alsa or pulseaudio ?
[11:18] <level09> what advantages does centos have over ubuntu ?
[11:18] <digifor> I can't cntl alt F1 either
[11:18] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmesg
[11:18] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, ahh I was about to say nevermind, so you gave network manager a try under i386 I gather
[11:19] <bazhang> level09, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:19] <psycho_oreos> digifor, that's a hard lock, meaning some buggy hardware somewhere or bad memory, etc
[11:19] <airtonix> Moral_, run nm-applet
[11:19] <psycho_oreos> tertitten, pulseaudio, but can be made to use alsa with some hacks
[11:19] <aglet> level09: in my experience it makes it somewhat easier to install commercial stuff, eg Oracle, Dell OpenManage
[11:19] <Moral_> airtonix, it's already running but the icon isnt anywhere
[11:19] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  yes tried x86 and amd 64...tried a live cd 9.10 tried everything:|
[11:20] <airtonix> Moral_, run ps -fe | grep nm-applet
[11:20] <airtonix> Moral_, then use kill on the pid
[11:20] <aglet> level09: whether that's worth the suffering from other causes is debatable, over in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:20] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  http://serverfault.com/questions/3097/ubuntu-pppoe-connection-timeout
[11:20] <tertitten> psycho_oreos, ok, thing is, I have no sound, and it seems that it might be due to some conflict between pulseaudio and alsa
[11:20] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, so you're under fc now as you said, using exactly the same config for pppd or using some other program?
[11:20] <digifor> psycho_oreos, what is my next step?
[11:21] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  this is the same output i get into ubuntu 9.10
[11:21] <airtonix> Moral_, test that its dead with ps -fe | grep nm-applet then run it again
[11:21] <jolaren^away> chelz: I've removed the sudo rights from the user and I've created a root account. What rights should I give that file from the root account?
[11:21] <jolaren^away> chelz: 755 is obviously wrong
[11:21] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, yeah ok, which is more or less the same repeat from that ubuntu forums link you posted previously.
[11:21] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  i'm runing a fedora live dvd, using the network manager and it works like a charm
[11:21] <airtonix> Moral_, are you just using gnome and therefore gnome-panel ?
[11:21] <jolaren^away> theadmin: what settings should I give it now? I removed the sudo access from the other user and created a root account.. what settingss should I give hte file? 755 can still remove file
[11:22] <iLisa> COuld i get help here?
[11:22] <psycho_oreos> digifor, I'd reboot and check the /var/log/messages for any previous messages to this hard lock
[11:22] <airtonix> !help | iLisa
[11:22] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos, but i don t want fedora, i want to stick with ubuntu
[11:22] <psycho_oreos> tertitten, it might also be muted, check for that as well
[11:22] <iLisa> !help
[11:22] <digifor> psycho_oreos, thanks doing now
[11:22] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  i just don't know what to do anymore...
[11:22] <airtonix> iLisa, read the message ubottu gave you
[11:22] <bazhang> iLisa, ask a question
[11:22] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, in other words you're not using pppd directly or even using wvdial for that matter
[11:23] <digifor> Also it freezes about the time I open the gnome terminal
[11:23] <iLisa> Okay, i installed ubunutu yesterday, everything worked fine. Now i just can't get my sound to work, and i've checked that it isn't muted or anything, anybody got a solution? My computers model: Compaq DC7100 (It's pretty old. :P)
[11:23] <Moral__> yea, still not ther
[11:23] <airtonix> iLisa, it has a physical volume dial on the side ?
[11:24] <psycho_oreos> digifor, what about running livecd? does that work?
[11:24] <iLisa> No, it has built in speakers in the computer
[11:24] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  yes..only the network manager....added the dsl connection...and under fedora it works fine
[11:24] <iLisa> I installed SoundMAX for it to work on XP
[11:24] <digifor> Live cd is fine
[11:24] <airtonix> iLisa, that wasn't my question.
[11:24] <riktking> How do I configure wifi before gnome starts?
[11:24] <digifor> I also installed OpenSuse 11.2 on here with gnome also fine
[11:24] <chao06> iLisa: has it worked on the liveCD?
[11:25] <raoul> Hi everyone, since this morning my CPU is overloaded by a process "perl" launched by root, I keep to kill -9 it but it is relaunched everytime and i can't manage to find witch script it is, any idea anyone ? thanx
[11:25] <iLisa> No. :\
[11:25] <kristof78> does anyone know a tutorial how to rebuild and move a mdadm raid5
[11:25] <kristof78> I've searched all over and found nothing
[11:25] <iLisa> Dosn't even play a sound when i turn the computer on.
[11:26] <digifor> I would prefer to put ubuntu on this box because it is for a guy who is not into computing. It is easier to locate people who know debian/ubuntu for help.
[11:26] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, sounds like a network manager issue under karmic I suppose, there's not much other alternatives that I can think of apart from getting another hardware to sit in between the splitter (for rj45) and the computer, get something like router to sit in between and from there obtain IP address, etc
[11:26] <airtonix> iLisa, right click the sound icon in the notification tray and click on the hardware tab, then write here the options you see in the drop down menu when you click it (at the bottom)
[11:26] <psycho_oreos> digifor, and which version of ubuntu is this?
[11:26] <obscurant1st> chelz, i had some connectivity problems, you still there?
[11:26] <chao06> iLisa: what's the sound card listed when you run 'lspci'?
[11:26] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  yes...a router would be my only chance...:|
[11:27] <digifor> 9.10
[11:27] <airtonix> iLisa, i would ask you to take a screen shot of that but gnome wont let you use print screen when you have a dialog control widget open
[11:27] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, I had some connectivity problems, you guys gave me any replies?
[11:27] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  until then i have to change to another distro
[11:27] <airtonix> iLisa, or you can pastebin the output of lspci -vv
[11:27] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, it'd probably work a bit more ideal I suppose because there isn't much of other ways except to somehow mess with wvdial
[11:27] <iLisa> sure one minute
[11:28] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  thanks for your help
[11:28] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, have you actually tried choosing another repo mirror yet?
[11:28] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, how can i do it?
[11:28] <obscurant1st> choosing another repo mirror?
[11:28] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, no worries, can't help you there much, even if there's a fix you still need active connection to sort it out :/
[11:29] <airtonix> iLisa, the widget im talking about on the hardware tab is labeled "profile", what i would do first in your case is open up rhythmbox and play a song, then change the option selected in the profile dropdown menu of the hardware tab in the volumen preferences
[11:29] <AsoxOsolox> can i speak fresh please, i have problem with bluetooth
[11:29] <bullgard>  '~$ avahi-browser -a' outputs a line: "iChat Presence    local". What does this mean?
[11:29] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, use synaptic to change the mirror
[11:29] <iLisa> I've already done that airtonix. :\
[11:29] <obscurant1st> ok let me check it
[11:29] <iLisa> airtonix, http://pastebin.com/YHMrKjbd
[11:29] <psycho_oreos> !fr | AsoxOsolox
[11:29] <airtonix> iLisa, none of them give you sound then.
[11:29] <airtonix> iLisa, when you were playing a song did the application show up in the applications tab ?
[11:29] <AsoxOsolox> ok thank u psycho_oreos
[11:30] <amar> hey guys ... cpu usage on my System goes upto 56-60% for few applications like firefox & totem player
[11:30] <psycho_oreos> AsoxOsolox, no worries
[11:30] <amar> is it something related to X
[11:30] <iLisa> one minute, i can't remember let me do it again.
[11:30] <amar> becoz normally these application shouldn't take much than 30-40%
[11:30] <iLisa> yes it did airtonix
[11:30] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, there might, just might be another way.. using the livecd version of lucid to try and update the installed version of karmic
[11:30] <amar> ?
[11:30] <chao06> iLisa: mm... i'm not even seeing your soundcard in here
[11:30] <airtonix> iLisa, ok one minute.
[11:31] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, is it the option "Download from under settings - > repositories?
[11:31] <airtonix> chao06, line 127
[11:31] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  tried, the same
[11:31] <airtonix> chao06, i mean 116
[11:31] <iLisa> chao06, i might not even have the driver installed on ubuntu, if im right. I'm new to ubuntu.
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, yes, choose one that's not from India
[11:31] <airtonix> err 113
[11:31] <amar> can anyone help me over here
[11:31] <chao06> airtonix: just found it : )
[11:32] <airtonix> iLisa, it has a driver loaded and in use. just need pulse-audio to see it. first you should confirm that pulse audio is running from the multimedia preferences application.
[11:32] <airtonix> iLisa, i mean running as in handling multimedia from the system.
[11:32] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, with lucid? hmm it probably is network manager plaguing both karmic and lucid, I don't know and somewhat doubt there's wvdial, but with some knowledge and hope you might be able to get it to work
[11:32] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, ok
[11:33] <airtonix> iLisa, one second while i get the command to run
[11:33] <iLisa> okay thanks
[11:33] <iLisa> i'm really confused, since i switched over from XP to ubuntu just like that
[11:33] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  i hope so too
[11:33] <chao06> iLisa: the driver for that card is in the default install... which version are you running? desktop, nbr, server?
[11:33] <iLisa> desktop
[11:34] <airtonix> chao06, line 124 :         Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
[11:34] <iLisa> chao06, dekstop
[11:34] <amar> seems everyone is busy over here
[11:35] <psycho_oreos> amar, might want to try other browser and media players
[11:35] <chao06> iLisa: do you even get the startup sounds? like the drum thing in loading the login screen?
[11:35] <iLisa> No i dont chao06
[11:36] <amar> hmmm
[11:36] <amar> vlc also took 56%
[11:37] <chao06> iLisa: does your computer have a headphones out? maybe try that...
[11:37] <airtonix> iLisa, ok run : gstreamer-properties
[11:37] <iLisa> chao06, one minute let me do what air said
[11:37] <psycho_oreos> amar, what sort of CPU is this?
[11:37] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, ok i have done that, i choose somehting from singapore, which came when i clicked on choose best server
[11:37] <airtonix> iLisa, confirm for me the opens set in the dropdown menus
[11:37] <amar> it sounds much of bug or improper driver version than n application related issue
[11:37] <airtonix> options*
[11:37] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, now what should i do
[11:37] <psycho_oreos> amar, like the speed of processor
[11:37] <amar> one sec
[11:37] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, hit ok/apply and answer yes to the next question from synaptic
[11:38] <airtonix> iLisa, also if you want try each option and use the test buttons
[11:38] <obscurant1st> ok i have done that too
[11:38] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos,
[11:38] <amar> i m using my brothers laptop
[11:38] <iLisa> airtonix, i got this window "Multimeda systems selector"
[11:38] <iLisa> Media*
[11:38] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, now go try instaling wicd
[11:38] <airtonix> iLisa, correct. you should have two tabs there : audio & video.
[11:38] <psycho_oreos> amar, and you don't know the CPU specs?
[11:38] <iLisa> yep i do airtonix
[11:39] <amar> Intel Centrino Mobile Technology\
[11:39] <airtonix> iLisa, ok the audio tab is what we care about ... deault output is set to ?
[11:39] <amar> its a dell laptop inspiron 700m
[11:39] <iLisa> plugin = autodetect - Device = unsupported - Pipeline = autoaudosink
[11:39] <airtonix> iLisa, ok change it to pulse audio
[11:40] <airtonix> iLisa, then use the test button
[11:40] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, same error comes
[11:40] <obscurant1st> :(
[11:40] <psycho_oreos> amar, grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
[11:40] <obscurant1st> should i do update /upgrade?
[11:40] <amar> ya i did less
[11:40] <amar> wait i will let u knw
[11:40] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, do sudo aptitude update first don't worry about upgrade
[11:40] <iLisa> airtonix, nope no sound. i even tried spotify
[11:41] <amar> Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz
[11:41] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, ok, doing that now
[11:41] <airtonix> iLisa, when you change the default output plugin, does the device menu become available ?
[11:41] <iLisa> yes it does airtonix
[11:41] <airtonix> iLisa, and did you test each option there ?
[11:41] <psycho_oreos> amar, hmm reasonably fast CPU, have you installed the video drivers?
[11:41] <chao06> iLisa: how's the audio out? it could be a hardware problem w/ the internal speakers
[11:42] <amar> its actually onboard driver
[11:42] <psycho_oreos> amar, you meant onboard chipset
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[11:42] <FloodBot4> amar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 iLisa, ok change it to pulse audio
[11:42] <iLisa> airtonix,
[11:42] <iLisa> the device option
[11:42] <iLisa> theres only default and unknown options there
[11:43] <iLisa> same for audio output
[11:43] <airtonix> iLisa, test button does nothing ?
[11:43] <iLisa> nope
[11:43] <iLisa> comes a little screen up, and then says press OK to finsh
[11:43] <iLisa> finish
[11:43] <amar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/411546/
[11:43] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, it didnt help, same error comes!
[11:43] <obscurant1st> :(
[11:43] <airtonix> iLisa, ok one other thing, back in the volume preferences you get from the notification tray, look at the output tab
[11:44] <iLisa> yes
[11:44] <iLisa> Connector = Analog output / amplifier
[11:44] <amar> psycho sorry for that flooding
[11:44] <amar> did u take a look at the pastebin url which i pasted
[11:44] <airtonix> iLisa, changing that does n't help you ?
[11:44] <Kazz|Away> o/
[11:44] <DaDa|Urka> Why does the cmus digital output only work when starting cmus as root?
[11:44] <iLisa> Device output sound: Internal audio analog stereo
[11:44] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, what was the missing package?
[11:44] <iLisa> Well theres alot of options, guess i'll just try them
[11:44] <airtonix> iLisa, is that the only one listed there ?
[11:44] <iLisa> Yes
[11:45] <airtonix> iLisa, play with the drop down menu at the bottom then
[11:45] <psycho_oreos> amar, probably a better idea to pastebin lspci -nnk output instead
[11:45] <amar> pyscho u there?
[11:45] <amar> ok
[11:45] <amar> will do it now
[11:45] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, python-urwid
[11:45] <Kazz|Away> 1st time user seeking advice pls :)
[11:45] <iLisa> it came :)
[11:45] <chelz> jolaren^away: obviously wrong?
[11:46] <iLisa> woah i got scared
[11:46] <airtonix> iLisa, problem solve then ?
[11:46] <iLisa> i had the radio on..
[11:46] <nino_> hi all
[11:46] <iLisa> Yep, i put the connector to Analog mono output
[11:46] <airtonix> iLisa, next time you have audio problems on a different machine try looking in those two places we went through
[11:46] <amar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/411547/
[11:46] <iLisa> okay :) airtonix, i have a diffrent problem but im not sure if you can solve it
[11:46] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, ok revert back to India repo mirror and do all the things previous, such as applying, reloading and doing aptitude update
[11:46] <airtonix> iLisa, try avoid anyones advice about removing pulseaudio
[11:46] <amar> done
[11:46] <iLisa> okay.
[11:47] <iLisa> may i ask airtonix?
[11:47] <airtonix> iLisa, go ahead
[11:47] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, ok
[11:47] <Athunye> Hello.
[11:47] <iLisa> Okay, so im running this client, and im supposed to write in security code, i do that. Then im summposed to press a 'continue' button, but there is none!
[11:47] <iLisa> There is one on windows
[11:47] <psycho_oreos> amar, hmm I suppose its already using the native driver included, have you tried this on another computer to see if it has the same effect?
[11:48] <airtonix> iLisa, expand on 'security client'
[11:48] <amar> no
[11:48] <amar> but it almost gets hung while watching a movie on totem or vlc
[11:48] <iLisa> what do you mean with that airtonix
[11:48] <psycho_oreos> amar, and which version of ubuntu is this?
[11:48] <digifor> psycho_oreos, this freeze issue seems to be a gnome bug. I am not having any problem in LXDE
[11:48] <airtonix> iLisa, what is the client?
[11:48] <amar> or say while u try to click on any other video on youtube it just stops responding for a long time
[11:48] <amar> 9.10
[11:49] <psycho_oreos> digifor, ahh probably a good idea to file the bug if it doesn't exist
[11:49] <airtonix> iLisa, i assume it's to log into somewhere ?
[11:49] <iLisa> It's a client by IMpsoft
[11:49] <iLisa> Yes
[11:49] <app> God that Empathy is terrible. Why is XChat not there as a default way to access this channel?
[11:49] <banshee_> If I'm running a program in terminal, whats the command to stop it
[11:49] <iLisa> It's a Runescape client, if you know what that is.
[11:49] <psycho_oreos> banshee_, pkill
[11:49] <Athunye> Karmic is not able to mound a dvd. In xp I can burn, erase or whatever with xpcdburner. dmesg | tais says it was not able to indentify cd-rom format. I was working with that dvd on linux only. (it is a rewitable cd).
[11:49] <app> And Gwibber keeps crashing at least here in VMWare Player on XP....
[11:49] <airtonix> iLisa, yes. so the client is in java ?
[11:49] <iLisa> Yes
[11:49] <iLisa> Java or C++
[11:49] <app> Sorry, I should be in ubuntu+1, bye!
[11:49] <iLisa> it's a .sh file
[11:49] <airtonix> iLisa, and the secrity code you need to input is part of runescape ?
[11:49] <amar> psycho
[11:49] <psycho_oreos> amar, I'd try looking for any video driver tweaks, failing that I'd try alternative programs such as chromium and smplayer
[11:50] <iLisa> Yes, the client is NOT done by runescape
[11:50] <xteejx> Is there any easy to follow instructions to install the madwifi drivers in Ubuntu
[11:50] <xteejx> ?
[11:50] <xteejx> the ath5k doesn't work for me
[11:50] <iLisa> client done by > http://www.impsoft.net/tp/index.php
[11:50] <psycho_oreos> xteejx, go through hardware drivers
[11:50] <martiner> Hello, do anyone know how to get my Logitech quickcam fusion to work with both audio and video?
[11:50] <iLisa> but the client goes to runescape
[11:50] <airtonix> iLisa, ok. what is the purpose of the client ?
[11:50] <amar> ok
[11:50] <Athunye> See... Now that I burned something on xp, it mounted fine in Ubuntu...
[11:50] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/python-urwid <--- try that
[11:50] <Athunye> Frustrating...
[11:50] <amar> thnx psycho
[11:50] <iLisa> A few more stuff, like checking up stats etc.
[11:50] <psycho_oreos> amar, no worries
[11:50] <airtonix> iLisa, or can you give me a link to the client ?
[11:50] <xteejx> psycho: madwifi drivers aren't available in Hardware Drivers, I'm using Lucid
[11:50] <iLisa> Sure thing
[11:51] <psycho_oreos> !lucid | xteejx
[11:51] <bazhang> xteejx, lucid in #ubuntu+1
[11:51] <amar> i had the same issue on my desktop where i had Geforce 6200 card n i had installed nvidia's properitary drivers
[11:51] <iLisa> http://www.rsbots.net/download/ <- Download Bot client.
[11:51] <amar> downloaded from nvidia website
[11:51] <airtonix> iLisa, ah so it is a character stats reporter for when you are not logged into the game ?
[11:51] <iLisa> Yes, it is also a bot.
[11:51] <iLisa> But that's nothing for my children honestly
[11:51] <iLisa> Just using it for the extra features.
[11:51] <xteejx> You know what......the madwifi drivers have appeared in Hardware Drivers !!
[11:51] <amar> but after reading the mess it creates i decided to use nvidia kernel modules provided by ubuntu itself
[11:51] <psycho_oreos> amar, probably lot more ideal if you went through hardware drivers for that matter, I'd say it could be a codecs issue somewhere along the lines
[11:52] <amar> codec issue can be with totem but waht abt vlc
[11:52] <bullgard>  '~$ avahi-browser -a' outputs a line: "iChat Presence    local". What does this mean?
[11:52] <psycho_oreos> amar, could be the same issue or the output driver is slow
[11:52] <amar> even if say it abt a player then to firefox shouldn't take so much amt of X while playing or switching to another video on youtube
[11:53] <amar> will have to really go through the docs
[11:53] <amar> :)
[11:53] <iLisa> airtonix, do you need a guide on how to run it?
[11:53] <airtonix> iLisa, i assume you've followed the guides there ?
[11:53] <iLisa> Yes
[11:53] <iLisa> But nobody else has this problem
[11:53] <psycho_oreos> amar, there's smplayer which allows finetuning, including output driver
[11:53] <Kazz|Away> 1st time ubuntu/linux user seeking advice pls :)
[11:53] <rocket16> Friends,consider joining ##linux-freedom a light-weight Ubuntu channel, about Ubuntu experience and talks.
[11:53] <psycho_oreos> !ask | Kazz|Away
[11:54] <amar> ok
[11:54] <bazhang> rocket16, dont advertise here
[11:54] <amar> ya i knw mplayer
[11:54] <amar> will try out this too
[11:54] <psycho_oreos> amar, other than that I'm not really sure whats the problem, probably give jaunty a try just to be sure
[11:54] <airtonix> iLisa, is this the guide you're having problems with ? http://www.rsbots.net/manuals/Bot-Client-Installation-Manual-for-Mac/
[11:55] <amar> naaah can't do that
[11:55] <iLisa> No, airtronix
[11:55] <iLisa> I've installed it
[11:55] <iLisa> My problem is
[11:55] <amar> my brother won't allow me to revert back to jaunty
[11:55] <amar> heheh
[11:55] <iLisa> I can't press continue IN the client
[11:55] <rocket16> bazhang: Or what? Drive me out again, like you did previously?
[11:55] <iLisa> There should be a continue button but there is none.
[11:55] <iLisa> But there is on windows
[11:55] <FloodBot4> iLisa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:55] <rocket16> bazhang: Really felt offended that day,
[11:55] <psycho_oreos> amar, I meant running livecd of jaunty
[11:55] <bazhang> rocket16, its offtopic, please remain on topic here
[11:55] <iLisa> Sorry
[11:55] <amar> hmmm
[11:55] <s3r3n1t7> rocket16, this is a support channel, not an advertisement channel.
[11:55] <amar> lets see will ask him n see
[11:55] <rocket16> s3r3n1t7: Ok,
[11:55] <Kazz|Away> Just installed ubuntu in a VM ... need to update video drivers first thing (800x600 res sux) have gone to nvidia website ... need flash player ... can someone recommend ... Adobe VS Swfdec vs Gnash ?
[11:56] <iLisa> want me to screen it to you airtonix ?
[11:56] <airtonix> iLisa, continue button in the runescape client or the bot client ?
[11:56] <amar> currently checking with smplayer if it works then well n good
[11:56] <amar> may be thats the issue he already has google chrome installed onthe system
[11:56] <psycho_oreos> Kazz|Away, under VM, nvidia driver doesn't work, you need to install whatever client tools that's available for your VM software
[11:56] <iLisa> the bot client airtonix
[11:56] <airtonix> iLisa, does runescape work without trying to use the bot? (this will confirm you have java installed)
[11:57] <iLisa> Yes
[11:57] <iLisa> It does work, and yes i have java installed
[11:57] <amar> hey psycho ya onething i forgot to tell u
[11:57] <airtonix> iLisa, ok because i dont have runescape i can't do anything else for you... maybe someone else here can.
[11:57] <amar> it might be that firefox profile has some issue n totem has some codecs issue
[11:57] <amar> it can be this way around ....
[11:58] <amar> becoz other apps looks fine
[11:58] <iLisa> okay. :(
[11:58] <airtonix> iLisa, i think the bot creator has not forseen all possibilities for the client when run on variations on linux.
[11:58] <iLisa> Oh, i'll contact them then. :)
[11:58] <psycho_oreos> amar, if you mean firefox as in when loading youtube pages for example or any pages with multimedia, firefox parses on to the decoder via plugins
[11:58] <Kazz|Away> psycho_oreos ... aight ... will look at that issue next but first ... flash player? Adobe vs gnash vs swfdec ?
[11:59] <Lord_Chewbakka> hallo i cant run my .bin files even after chmod -x, what do i do wrong?
[11:59] <psycho_oreos> Kazz|Away, use the ubuntu's way
[11:59] <psycho_oreos> !flash | Kazz|Away
[11:59] <iLisa> Well
[11:59] <Kazz|Away> !flash
[11:59] <iLisa> Have a good day airtonix, chao06 and amar
[11:59] <iLisa> Thanks for the help guys
[11:59] <amar> hehe
[12:00] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, that .bin file probably needs to be started in console not just via double clicking
[12:00] <bredoto> hia
[12:00] <amar> In my office i have faced probs with my thunderbird profile
[12:00] <amar> it use to just take up 100% usage sometimes
[12:00] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: i know but whats the command for that?
[12:00] <amar> will investigate it
[12:00] <amar> anyways thanks psycho
[12:00] <amar> bye
[12:00] <chardry> Bonjour
[12:01] <psycho_oreos> !fr | chardry
[12:01] <Kazz|Away> !Gnash
[12:01] <bredoto> does anybody had listened about foxgate switches before?
[12:02] <Kazz|Away> !help
[12:03] <Kazz|Away> :P !commands
[12:03] <bredoto> anybody!!!! Need help!
[12:03] <psycho_oreos> bredoto, never heard of foxgate switches
[12:05] <Lord_Chewbakka> for any sweeds out there "commander@commander-desktop:/media/SPACE/Spel/Jagged Alliance 2 Gold$ ./flt-ja2a.bin
[12:05] <Lord_Chewbakka> bash: ./flt-ja2a.bin: det kår inte att köra binär fil
[12:05] <Lord_Chewbakka> " =?
[12:05] <xubunto> I still do not have asound in my xubunto
[12:05] <bazhang> !se | Lord_Chewbakka
[12:05] <xubunto> and canot install any plugins: bash: permission denied
[12:05] <Lord_Chewbakka> thx
[12:05] <xubunto> any suggetsions or help?
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, use sudo
[12:06] <bredoto>  psycho_oreos, thnk i need to receive  some feedback
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, you need something like fuseiso or cdemu
[12:06] <xubunto> I'm a very jang: just wnat to use dvb-s
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> bredoto, yes, if its a hardware thing you might want to try ##hardware
[12:07] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, that made no sense
[12:07] <xubunto> ok.
[12:08] <xubunto> i installed and searshing for dvb-s apliocation
[12:08] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: dont fuseiso only work for iso.s?
[12:08] <bredoto>  psycho_oreos, thnk againe
[12:08] <xubunto> have all driver loaded, but still get no sound
[12:09] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, I think fuseiso works with a few formats, but cdemu is the closest thing under linux that you can get which is like daemon tools or alcohol under windows
[12:09] <bullgard>  '~$ avahi-browser -a' outputs a line: "iChat Presence    local". How can I use this service?
[12:09] <psycho_oreos> bredoto, no worries
[12:09] <duanmingsheng> qmmp?
[12:09] <duanmingsheng> help qmmp?
[12:09] <duanmingsheng> use
[12:09] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, could be a sound server issue or config or even muted
[12:09] <xubunto> so, i canot install any of this plugins, who used by keffeine because i don't have a permision
[12:10] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: ok havnt tried that software yet, il give it a shot, thx!
[12:10] <xubunto> all sound is seeing by system and is active
[12:10] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, word of warning, cdemu messes around with pulseaudio under jaunty, no wording if its resolved under karmic
[12:10] <xubunto> i have a MAA69vm and hd4770
[12:11] <xubunto> all of them is active,
[12:11] <xubunto> but stil have no sound.
[12:11] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, checked sound levels to see if they're not muted? even under alsamixer?
[12:11] <xubunto> no
[12:11] <xubunto> is not
[12:11] <xubunto> video player go without sound
[12:11] <psycho_oreos> what programs are you using for audio playback?
[12:11] <xubunto> when i use the mp3 he give me a inf that not can be palyed
[12:12] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: what is pulseaudio and jaunty?
[12:12] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, pulseaudio is sound daemon and jaunty is a ubuntu release (9.04)
[12:12] <xubunto> when i'm prove to install all update, still do not have sound
[12:12] <psycho_oreos> more specifically *ubuntu
[12:13] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, you haven't answered my question
[12:13] <xubunto> ?
[12:13] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, which programs have you tried to play, which formats?
[12:13] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: does pulseaudio and jaunty come with the standard ubuntu 9.10?
[12:14] <xubunto> kaffeine and video player
[12:14] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, pulseaudio? yes, jaunty? no because that's older release
[12:14] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, hmm I'd give vlc a go
[12:14] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: ha hai
[12:14] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, jaunty as in jaunty jackalope
[12:15] <xubunto> with kaffeine without update device not started..
[12:15] <xubunto> boo
[12:15] <chao06> xubunto: have you installed the gstreamer plugins? they're called good bad and ugly
[12:15] <xubunto> yes
[12:15] <xubunto> in another part.
[12:15] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: ok then it should be no trouble
[12:15] <xubunto> why stil do not give me permission to install some of config?
[12:15] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, no, its a precaution that you have to take in mind, it affected jaunty (9.04) and it might still affect karmic (9.10)
[12:15] <rumpsy> lemme have something as good as dreamweaver in ubuntu
[12:16] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, install what config?
[12:16] <xubunto> about kaffeine plugins
[12:16] <jeeez> how do i disable nvidia drivers? my system wont boot now, after i removed the g-card.
[12:16] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: ok whats the worst thing that could happen?
[12:16] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, you're being very vague... maybe you need root permissions to install it?
[12:17] <xubunto> maby
[12:17] <xubunto> ..
[12:17] <jeeez> anyone?
[12:17] <psycho_oreos> jeeez, hmm try recovery mode, chroot it and aptitude remove nvidia
[12:17] <xubunto> how can get this?
[12:17] <chao06> rumpsy: aparently dreamweaver works pretty ok through wine... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=183
[12:17] <psycho_oreos> !sudo | xubunto
[12:18] <phoenixandthor> rumpsy: dreamweaver is a proprietary product from adobe, which mostly generates flash content.
[12:18] <jeeez> psycho_oreos: it'll fix the kernel loading thingy too, where it loads the nvidia modules?
[12:18] <karim_frl> there is who speak french
[12:18] <phoenixandthor> If you want something a lot more standards compliant, I recomend bluefish
[12:19] <psycho_oreos> jeeez, no if you went through recovery mode, you should be able to bypass loading of nvidia drivers.. if not you'll have to use livecd, chroot, and go from there
[12:19] <psycho_oreos> !fr | karim_frl
[12:19] <phoenixandthor> that bot is so cool
[12:19] <karim_frl> merci
[12:19] <phoenixandthor> what else can it do?
[12:20] <rumpsy> i don't wan to stress it with wine
[12:20] <karim_frl> but i dont want to quit this channel
[12:20] <Audible> http://xkcd.com/619/  <= i love this one
[12:20] <psycho_oreos> !ot | Audible
[12:20] <psycho_oreos> karim_frl, you just do "/join #ubuntu-fr" (without quotes)
[12:20] <phoenixandthor> rumpsy: adobe will never make a version of dreamweaver for linux
[12:20] <phoenixandthor> Either use another web editor, or go back to mac, windows
[12:21] <karim_frl> thank you very much
[12:21] <psycho_oreos> karim_frl, no worries
[12:21] <rumpsy> phoenixandthor: i know that, tell me something for linux, which is good as dreamweaver
[12:22] <phoenixandthor> rumpsy, well, nothing for linux is going to have nealry as many bells and whistles as dreamweaver, but there are a feature rich programs out there
[12:22] <fabio333> rumpsy>: there are such programs
[12:22] <phoenixandthor> depends on what you mostly do, php, html, java, what
[12:22] <dhanesh> hi
[12:23] <fabio333> rumpsy, http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[12:23] <bullgard>  '~$ avahi-browser -a' outputs a line: "iChat Presence    local". How can I use this service to copy a file from computer 2 to computer 3 in a LAN??
[12:23] <phoenixandthor> good one fabio
[12:23] <dhanesh>    bullgard install ubuntu 9.10
[12:23] <phoenixandthor> I still like bluefish cause it's a gtk app
[12:23] <rumpsy> fabio333: cool, lemme check that, is that possible for GNOME
[12:24] <phoenixandthor> no, kde
[12:24] <fabio333> rumpsy, you can run kde apps on gnome
[12:24] <phoenixandthor> but it should run under gnome
[12:24] <rumpsy> ^^
[12:24] <phoenixandthor> isn't quanta dead though?
[12:24] <fabio333> rumpsy, dramweaver cs4 got Gold status on wine
[12:24] <dhanesh> phoenixandthor  system requirements for ubuntu 9.10
[12:25] <fabio333> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14343
[12:25] <dhanesh> phoenixandthor  system requirements for ubuntu 9.10
[12:25] <dhanesh> phoenixandthor  system requirements for ubuntu 9.10
[12:25] <phoenixandthor> will you stop, hold on a sec
[12:26] <dhanesh> phoenixandtho gggggggrgsfg
[12:26] <phoenixandthor> I'm going to say that you will be comfortable with a 1GHz processor, and at least 512 MB or ram, 10 GB hard disk space
[12:27] <phoenixandthor> may not be the bare min, but that give a good experience
[12:27] <phoenixandthor> Darkwing
[12:27] <phoenixandthor> sounds familiar
[12:27] <phoenixandthor> have we met before?
[12:29] <dhanesh> phoenixandthor i have installed ubuntu yesterday. after installation a crash report came.it was this is not a genuine ubuntu package.is there any solution
[12:29] <phoenixandthor> depends on what you did to it after initial installation
[12:30] <phoenixandthor> a stock install should not have such a problem
[12:30] <phoenixandthor> all ye more expereienced, chime in any time here
[12:30] <s3r3n1t7> dhanesh, what did you do to generate this crash report?
[12:31] <dhanesh> s3r3n1t7 i dont know
[12:31] <s3r3n1t7> dhanesh, what were you doing when it popped up?
[12:33] <bullgard> dhanesh: I did (long time ago). Still this insufficient.
[12:33] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos: it worked now wicd is installed, but its not working, i mean the wireless networks are not listed where it is supposed to , and  when i right click it and connect to it, it says connection failed: coul not obstain ip address
[12:34] <dhanesh> phoenixandthor i have installed ubuntu yesterday. after installation a crash report came.it was this is not a genuine ubuntu package.is there any solution
[12:34] <maginot> dhanesh, ubuntu 10.04 ?
[12:35] <jdv> Hi, can anyone help me mount my second drive in ubuntu karmic?
[12:35] <maginot> jdv, mount /dev/sd* /mount/point <- sd* is your drive
[12:36] <jdv> maginot thank you. how do I find out what my drive is ?
[12:36] <strange> sudo fdisk -l
[12:36] <maginot> jdv, or you can open Nautilus and see if the drive doesn't show in the right panel
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> !mount | jdv
[12:37] <maginot> jdv, see, if you type "mount" alone it will show what is mounted, them you can try to figure out who is your disk on /dev/ typing /dev/sd and pressing tab, do you get it?
[12:37] <strange> or sudo fdisk -l
[12:38] <Alphos> hi :)
[12:39] <jdv> it says sda5 is already mounted but in "mount" it is not listed.
[12:40] <Alphos> the fan on my acer laptop under karmic stops right after startup. i've tried pwmconfig, but it outputs "There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed" ; lm-sensors sensors-detect and sensors don't give any indication of a fan being there
[12:40] <jdv> [20856.766098] sda2: rw=0, want=4, limit=2
[12:40] <jdv> [20856.766101] EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
[12:41] <Alphos> the fan works correctly under windows, and for a reason i know nothing about, the fan started working earlier today - not for long, though
[12:41] <Alphos> i thought it might be bios-related, but after a bios flash nothing has changed : the fan still stops running right after i give my password
[12:41] <s3r3n1t7> Alphos, is it possible the laptop stays cool enough so the fan doesn't need to be used?
[12:42] <Alphos> GPU 57°C and rising, kernel panic when it hits 62 to 65°C, i doubt it s3r3n1t7 ;)
[12:42] <s3r3n1t7> Alphos, my pc at home doesn't need a fan to be used, so was jst wonderin ... but yeh, at those temps it should've kicked in ages ago
[12:43] <Guest> set the BISO, don't set the "Smart Fan" may be better.
[12:43] <Alphos> no access to that
[12:43] <Alphos> nothing about fans in the bios - or perhaps in the last version, i actually didn't check for that one
[12:43] <jdv> so it seems my second drive is busted :/
[12:44] <Alphos> but in the previous version, no mention of fans whatsoever
[12:45] <jdv> is there any alternative filesystem to attempt to load it in which might get past the bad superblock error? I tried ext2, ext3, ext4
[12:45] <fabio333> reiserfs?
[12:45] <joaopinto> jdv, bad superblock means serious corruption
[12:45] <Alphos> i'll give a try to smart-fan in the new bios
[12:46] <Alphos> see ya soon if there's no mention of it again ^^'
[12:46] <joaopinto> trying other fs types will not help
[12:46] <jdv> jaopinto is there anything I can do?
[12:46] <Tripplehelix> scream
[12:46] <jdv> covered that
[12:46] <Guest> Hey, I have encountered a strange problems. I can't set my laptop's brightness...... The only way is to set it after "Ctrl+ALt+F1" and restart gdm.						
[12:47] <Tripplehelix> guest search google... I found a great tutorial for my macbook
[12:47] <Guest> google didn't give me correct answer~
[12:47] <jeeez> how to reconfigure x.org config from root shell? i want to stop it from using nvidia and use the normal dispaly instead.
[12:48] <Guest> init 3, and "nvidia-config-display diable"will stop it.
[12:48] <chao06> jeeez: the generic driver is called vesa... you should be able to find the driver selection under the screen section
[12:49] <chao06> jeeez: (in xorg.conf)
[12:49] <jeeez> chao06: okay, let me try that out!
[12:50] <chao06> jeeez: the default ubuntu install doesn't have a xorg.conf... you'll need to generate one, run '
[12:50] <chao06> jeefers: X -configure
[12:50] <frootee> is there a way to stop your system from freezing when you're running a lot of applications on a low-medium end machine?
[12:51] <maginot> actually I would like to know why Ubuntu doesn't use a xorg.conf, how X do it, its a X11 version ability ? I really wanted to make that work on my Distro too
[12:51] <chao06> frootee: don't use gnome
[12:51] <Alphos> nope, no mention of smart-fan in the bios menu
[12:51] <frootee> chao06, use what then?
[12:51] <Alphos> and i checked again, actually the fan stops as soon as the password prompt shows up
[12:52] <chao06> frootee: sorry, wrong name in tab completion, i meant that to go to jeeez
[12:52] <dewman> since we are talking about video cards..... =P
[12:52] <frootee> jeeez doesnt exist
[12:53] <chao06> frootee: agh, getting everything messed up... that was for you... try fluxbox
[12:53] <frootee> chao06, you can install fluxbox on ubuntu?
[12:53] <chao06> frootee: yeah, 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox'
[12:54] <frootee> chao06, wait, I thought that was for 10.04 onlt
[12:54] <frootee> only
[12:54] <geekphreak> hello all
[12:54] <chao06> frootee: ? fluxbox has been around for a long time... it's a light window manager
[12:55] <geekphreak> Pici: howdy :)
[12:55] <frootee> chao06, will it make things more difficult?
[12:55] <chao06> frootee: it's different than gnome, and takes a bit of setting up... if you want something closer to gnome, you can use xfce4
[12:56] <frootee> that only saves you like 50 mb of memory though
[12:57] <chao06> frootee: i've found that memory doesn't tend to be the issue, it's usually processor speed
[12:57] <chao06> frootee: my machines usually run steady around 150-200 Mb of RAM
[12:57] <frootee> frootee, and these window managers free up cpu?
[12:58] <frootee> chao06, and these window managers free up cpu?
[12:59] <chao06> frootee: what other applications are you running alot of? if you want to run alot of browser instances, that's actually probably your problem...
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> frootee:  they free up a little.. but proberly not that much noticab;e on a mondern machine
[12:59] <chao06> Dr_Willis: said a fairly low-end earlier
[13:00] <kmpm> is there a way of getting the openssh server to listen to more then 1 port
[13:00] <frootee> chao06, low-medium end
[13:00] <geekphreak> hmm
[13:00] <Yandzee> Привет всем!
[13:00] <frootee> chao06, so stop running multiple browsers?
[13:01] <bazhang> !ru | Yandzee
[13:01] <bullgard> !ru | Yandzee
[13:01] <chao06> frootee: not necesarilly... if you're using firefox, changing browsers would certainly help...
[13:01] <geekphreak> firefox is that bad?
[13:01] <chao06> frootee: but it really tends to be flash that eats everything
[13:02] <geekphreak> k
[13:02] <chao06> geekphreak: i've had some pretty major issues with firefox in linux the past year or so... i switched to chrome a couple months back
[13:02] <DNil> hi. can anyone please tell me how to run a .so file?
[13:03] <geekphreak> chao06:  ok just curious :)
[13:03] <chao06> frootee: and there's nothing we can do about flash x_x
[13:03] <dene14> hello guys, can anyone help me with htb shaping discipline on linux ?
[13:03] <strange> if its libfish.so you can /load it in irssi
[13:03] <strange> usually its not executable
[13:03] <frootee> chao06, what about using no-script?
[13:03] <chao06> DNil: .so files are plugins...
[13:03] <kmpm> DNil, .so files are not ment to be executed directly
[13:03] <Traveler> bonjour
[13:03] <chao06> frootee: that would definitely help : )
[13:03] <Traveler> hello
[13:04] <frootee> ok
[13:04] <kmpm> DNil, they are like .dll files in W
[13:04] <frootee> thanks
[13:04] <Traveler> Does anyone use Boost::Python under ubuntu ?
[13:04] <chao06> frootee: no problem : )
[13:04] <DNil> its flash player . i just downloaded it from adobe site.how can i install flash player then?
[13:04] <Ziber> !package snp
[13:04] <Ziber> !snp
[13:05] <Ziber> Anyone know any Ubuntu programs for TTY snooping?
[13:05] <chao06> DNil: you should get a .deb from the adobe site for that...
[13:05] <kmpm> DNil, it's a flash player plugin for firefox I guess.... Just put it in the right folder and FF will pick it up.... but as chao06 said, there are better ways
[13:05] <Slart> Traveler: probably.. you can check pop.ubuntu.com if you want the exact numbers
[13:06] <DNil> i looked for it.but they are only providing a .deb file for ubuntu 8.04. will it work?
[13:06] <chao06> DNil: there's a dropdown menu to select your distro, and it gives you a package for you to install
[13:06] <Slart> Traveler: sorry.. that
[13:06] <Slart> Traveler: sorry.. that's popcon.ubuntu.com
[13:06] <DNil> k.checking it.
[13:06] <chao06> DNil: yeah, nothing's really changed all that much
[13:06] <alveraan> Hi there. Can anyone point me to a channel where I could get information about encrypted root using crypttab. I'm interested how crypttab is handled by initramfs.
[13:07] <geekphreak> .join #encrypt
[13:07] <geekphreak> oops
[13:07] <Ziber> Anyone know any Ubuntu programs for TTY snooping?
[13:08] <Slart> !info ttysnoop
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> dont think that works for SSH logins. :)
[13:09] <Ziber> wait, really? :/
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> 'tty' is not ssh :)
[13:10] <Ziber> right. a pts snooper is what i want then
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> check the tools docs/homepage perhaps?  theres alternative login variants also i recall.
[13:10] <ce_maniez18thn> ce_maniez18thn
[13:10] <Ziber> !info ptssnooper
[13:10] <allu2> anyone know how to get omnibook-module for karmic ?
[13:11] <Ziber> is there such a thing?
[13:11] <allu2> Ziber, you ask from me?
[13:12] <Ziber> im asking anyone.
[13:12] <AdigaG> hello all =D
[13:12] <Ziber> allu2: would you happen to know any tho?
[13:12] <AdigaG> Can Any One Help Me
[13:13] <allu2> Ziber, dunno, i tough you asked me about omnibook module
[13:13] <maginot> !ask| AdigaG
[13:13] <AdigaG> lol
[13:13] <geekphreak> maginot: howdy
[13:13] <allu2> Ziber, what are you looking for?
[13:13] <maginot> hey
[13:14] <AdigaG> I need Shell Or BNC Free Can I Find Here Free !?
[13:14] <bazhang> AdigaG, no
[13:14] <bazhang> Ziber, why do you wish to snoop on ssh
[13:14] <AdigaG> Then Where Can Find ?!
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> AdigaG:  google is your friend.
[13:14] <bazhang> AdigaG, no idea, its offtopic here
[13:15] <maginot> AdigaG, stop writing with camel style, please. And what you mean with shell ? Don't you have one(many) already? ;)
[13:15] <thrope> trying to run an installer off a cd and get permission denied even though execute bit is set - I think its a mount option for cds isnt it - but I can't remember what I need to remount?
[13:15] <Ziber> bazhang: Mainly to help people do things, it would allow us to work together, watching what each other is doing, without having to use screen and be on the same account
[13:15] <AdigaG> No
[13:15] <AdigaG> I don't Have :P
[13:15] <IdleOne> maginot: don't be impolite and what he means by shell is a account on a remote server where he can run a bot instance or a bnc amoung other things
[13:16] <chrisw> hey all, what actually triggers logrotate to run?
[13:16] <chrisw> is it a cron job?
[13:16] <thrope> oh got it mount -o remount,exec
[13:16] <maginot> IdleOne, impolite, do you know what you are talking about?
[13:16] <alveraan> chrisw, yes
[13:16] <Slart> chrisw: isn't it a cronjob? I seem to recall seeing it somewhere
[13:16] <neure> if i have usb sdcard reader and i plug it in, where should i see the device?
[13:16] <neure> (using console, no X)
[13:16] <IdleOne> maginot: but yeah I see what you mean by Camel Style...so umm forget about me implying you were being impolite
[13:17] <chrisw> yeah /etc/cron.daily/logrotate
[13:17] <geekphreak> neure:  normally /media
[13:17] <chrisw> 'cept it isnt on oen of our boxes...
[13:17] <maginot> IdleOne, np
[13:17] <neure> geekphreak, it doesn't show up there, i dunno why, maybe because im running ubuntu on vmware
[13:17] <geekphreak> neure:  is it even being detected in vmware, try just sudo  mount
[13:18] <Slart> chrisw: isn't logrotate a single package? tried reinstalling it?
[13:18] <neure> i got some text into root console
[13:18] <neure> about sdb
[13:18] <chrisw> it's there
[13:18] <geekphreak> neure:  where it says it is mounted?
[13:18] <chrisw> adn everything looks fine
[13:18] <neure> assuming drive cache: write through
[13:18] <geekphreak> neure:  it shows the path too
[13:18] <neure> it doesnt say where it is mounted
[13:18] <allu2> if i may ask again, how i could install omnibook-module to Karmic? i readed it enables changing brightness of the screen, background light on and off ,bluethooth and one touch keys, but it doesn't seem to be in ubuntus repo
[13:18] <Slart> chrisw: but no logrotate entry in /etc/cron.daily/ ?
[13:18] <geekphreak> try to manually mount it
[13:18] <chrisw> no, it's there
[13:19] <neure> mount .. err, what?
[13:19] <chrisw> when I do logrotate -d, it says the files should be rotated
[13:19] <chrisw> but then it doesn't happen
[13:19] <chrisw> where does logrotate log to?
[13:19] <Slart> chrisw: hmm.. running logrotate -d   on my system just gives me the help text
[13:20] <Alphos> and here's another kernel panic...
[13:20] <chrisw> logrotate -d /etc/logrotate.conf :-P
[13:20] <Alphos> if anyone has an idea of how to force my fan to run, he'd be a peach to tell me :D
[13:21] <geekphreak> Alphos:  turn it on :p
[13:21] <chrisw> when does stuff in /etc/cron.daily get run?
[13:21] <jeeez> does compiz work without a graphics card?
[13:21] <hiexpo> get libsensors
[13:21] <Vigo> allu2: I saw a Contrast thing in Software Center under Themes and Tweaks...
[13:21] <Slart> chrisw: hmm.. are you running that as a regular user? no sudo?
[13:21] <dsl558> use two power wires
[13:21] <allu2> Alphos, something like echo 1/0 (don't remember) > /proc/acpi/fan/state
[13:21] <bazhang> dsl558, to do what
[13:22] <geekphreak> chrisw:  question for you
[13:22] <allu2> Alphos, don't remember right path so try tab compleate
[13:22] <geekphreak> chrisw:  dont you get mails via logrotate
[13:22] <allu2> Vigo, i check...
[13:22] <Alphos> libsensors already installed
[13:22] <Ziber> is there any tool in ubuntu (besides screen) that will allow me to work together with someone, each being able to watch what the other is doing on SSH?
[13:23] <chrisw> geekphreak: I'm fairly sure logrotate is not an mta, perhaps you meant to ask something else?
[13:23] <Slart> Ziber: nothing that isn't excessively complicated.. vnc over ssh to a common desktop with gnome-terminal maximised would fit that description =)
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  there were some alternatives to screen. that worked basically the same way. but i cant recall their names. 'twin' used tobeone . but i dont think its in the repos any more
[13:24] <chrisw> Slart: I'm running that as root
[13:24] <Ziber> :/
[13:24] <Slart> Ziber: although I'm not entirely sure if vnc can have multiple clients..
[13:24] <Alphos> allu2 : /proc/acpi/fan/state doesn't exist
[13:24] <allu2> Vigo, under what? there is no such tab :P
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> vnc can do multi clients.. it can get confuseing however i recall.
[13:24] <Alphos> /proc/acpi/fan is actually an empty dir
[13:24] <allu2> Alphos, i told you i don't remember path
[13:25] <vianocturna85> hey im using evolution as my mail client and at home it works perfect, but when im at school, it wont connect. here i have a wpa connection, but at school its TTLS WEP...any ideas why it doesnt work?
[13:25] <allu2> Alphos, your on laptop?
[13:25] <Alphos> yes, allu2
[13:25] <allu2> Alphos, then i don't know :(
[13:25] <Alphos> acer aspire 6930G to be accurate
[13:25] <allu2> Alphos, there is any bios setting ?
[13:25] <Vigo> allu2: Whoops, I am on 10b, let me look at the 9.10 repositories.
[13:25] <Alphos> none related to the fan
[13:25] <allu2> Vigo, :P
[13:25] <maginot> vianocturna85, are you sure isn't any firewall blocking your access?
[13:26] <geekphreak> chrisw:  dont quote me on this, but i thik it had a feature , where it sent log info to root@localhost , you could set it up
[13:26] <allu2> Alphos, and to cpu?
[13:26] <Alphos> none either
[13:26] <Alphos> Health menu is absent
[13:26] <vianocturna85> well not on my end theres not, maybe on school firewall, but the windows users are able to use their standard mail app
[13:26] <Curly_Q> Vianocturna85 most likely there is a port block at school.
[13:26] <allu2> Alphos, ok :( sorry i can't help then
[13:27] <chrisw> geekphreak: hanks, I'll bear that in mind...
[13:27] <Kazz|Away> psycho_oreos you still there ?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Hi Folks
[13:27] <inktri> im trying to dl a 30gb file via sftp from some server... i always get an error after around 10 hours of dling. how can i change my sftp settings so that the connection persists for more htan 10 hours?
[13:27] <geekphreak> vianocturna85:  using gmail as mail server?
[13:27] <vianocturna85> i am
[13:28] <hiexpo> allu2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8136893&postcount=5
[13:28] <geekphreak> vianocturna85:  both incmoning and out going not working or just one?
[13:29] <geekphreak> arvind_khadri: howdy sir :)
[13:29] <vianocturna85> geekphreak: Well i havent tried to send mail since it makes evolution hang when it tries to connect to the server...so i know for a fact incoming doesnt work, i cant say for sure about outgoing
[13:29] <arvind_khadri> geekphreak, wassup :) am fine
[13:29] <allu2> hiexpo, Hallelujah :D thank you :)
[13:29] <tHW> arvind_khadri: what a coincidence
[13:29] <allu2> Vigo, thank you too :)
[13:29] <JmZ> is there a channel somewhere on here where i can ask about empathy?
[13:29] <smf> #empathy?
[13:30] <smf> #j #empathy
[13:30] <Vigo> allu2: HP?
[13:30] <JmZ> empty, #empathy
[13:30] <arvind_khadri> tHW, :)
[13:30] <JmZ> like 3 people
[13:30] <hiexpo> yep
[13:30] <allu2> Vigo, yeah
[13:30] <smf> hmm maybe not
[13:30] <booksbuggy> my clock is always 4 hours later than the right time no matter how i adjust it how do i fix this?
[13:30] <JmZ> not very useful heh
[13:30] <smf> perhaps #gnome
[13:30] <arvind_khadri> JmZ, why not just ask here
[13:30] <JmZ> well i just wondered if there was a more specific channel
[13:30] <JmZ> but i will now
[13:30] <allu2> Vigo, hiexpo gave me tutorial to get the omnibook module :)
[13:30] <tHW> Jmz arvind has most answers
[13:30] <Vigo> allu2: okee dokee. neato
[13:31] <geekphreak> vianocturna85: chances are settings are ok, but do double check them again, otherwise i goto gmail webmail setting, disable pop access , save changes, and enable it back on
[13:31] <Curly_Q> Vianocturna85 keep in mind that when you are at home your SMTP and servername and port is different at school.
[13:31] <JmZ> ok i have two bugs i've noticed. One, occasionally messages from a contact show as being from me. Two, messages containing newlines fail to be displayed.
[13:31] <JmZ> i searched for known bugs and the second does exist but nobody seems to be interested in it
[13:31] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, do you have the correct time zone ?
[13:31] <JmZ> no activity on that bug
[13:31] <maginot> vianocturna85, well, if you can connect normally at home (I suppose you are using a notebook) and on your school you have internet access with this notebook but can't access your email some block is happing on your school, maybe the other users who are being able to access are using normal smtp/pop/imap ports which gmail doesn't use
[13:31] <vianocturna85> geekphreak: I thought that since it was IMAP, so I changed that so it was POP3...didnt make a difference
[13:31] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, well i am in USA so i selected that one
[13:32] <vianocturna85> maginot: Ah, i never knew that, I thought Gmail was using the normal
[13:32] <geekphreak> vianocturna85:   do you get any error message, ?
[13:32] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, do you dual boot ?
[13:32] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, is the location option suppose to be for the timezone?
[13:32] <vianocturna85> Geekphreak: Time-out
[13:33] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, yeah...
[13:33] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, i don't dual boot
[13:33] <Curly_Q> A timeout is a server not responding.
[13:33] <chazco> I've tired to install Ubuntu 10.04 onto a USB HDD. It worked, but i've accidentally overwritten GRUB on the host PC (running 9.10). How can I restore it from the 9.10 live CD?
[13:34] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, ok, set the timezone correctly and you can sync your time with ntp, and i guess your cmos battery is low
[13:34] <geekphreak> i still think settings are messed, did you config port ok vianocturna85?
[13:34] <arvind_khadri> !lucid > chazco
[13:34] <Vigo> !grub | chazco
[13:34] <Kazz|Away> video driver question ... sys has onboard nvidia 9100 ... running ubuntu in a VM ... installed the addons. increased max res from 800x600 -> 1152x864 which is nice but want to go higher
[13:34] <chazco> arvind_khadri - I'm not using lucid (at least not for this), trying to fix 9.109 grub
[13:34] <booksbuggy> well the one i am suppose to select is new york and i selected it
[13:34] <chazco> Vigo - ah, thanks
[13:34] <vianocturna85> geekphreak: I'll be honest, i simply followed the instructions on gmail site, used that in Evolution, and left it at that
[13:35] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, well the time zone for me is suppose to be new york but it always keep the time 4 hours later though
[13:35] <geekphreak> vianocturna85:  ok
[13:35] <Shirl> hiyaz :)
[13:35] <geekphreak> vianocturna85:  tried thunderbird for test ;)
[13:35] <vianocturna85> geekphreak: It's annoying though, if i ask the helpdesk, they are like 'oh sorry you have linux, we cant help'
[13:35] <axisys> geekphreak: hey man i also found save as in ff let you save a html page with all links in a folder .. does same trick as webhttrack .. thanks for your help yesterday
[13:36] <vianocturna85> geekphreak: Tried that too, no avail
[13:36] <Vigo> chazco: arvind_khadri was quite correct, that is beta, so stuff breaks, use at your own level and risk.
[13:36] <geekphreak> axisys: welcome
[13:36] <Shirl> I'm trying unclutter in karmic as I have Firefox full-screen, because I am testing via remote desktop I cannot verify the mouse cursor is hidden
[13:36] <aar> Hi, complete noob question: I have two laptops (running Ubuntu Hardy) and have rather naively conected them together via an ethernet cable (with the hope of diong some file sharing between them). Am I barking up the wrong tree?
[13:36] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, in a terminal <<sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata>> , and also check if you are using UTC
[13:37] <Shirl> can anyone confirm the reason I still see the cursor is because of vnc?
[13:37] <maginot> vianocturna85, take a look at this, may help you someway: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[13:37] <chazco> Vigo - The instructions worked thanks... yep, i know it's beta but this request was all about 9.10 (10.04 was just mentioned as background)
[13:37] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, well i think somehow the ntp server wasn't installed
[13:37] <lfuser-041> xchat
[13:37] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, i just installed it
[13:38] <Vigo> chazco: Np, I am happy it is resolved.
[13:38] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, going to restart be back
[13:38] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, ok, and also check if you have ntc
[13:38] <Curly_Q> Vianocturna85 another thing to keep in mind that just because you can log onto any port at home, many IPs use their own ports. I had that happen with my IP. They never told me that Comcast SMTP port was on port 587.
[13:38] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, why do you have to restart ?? s/ntc/utc
[13:38] <Shirl> aar, i think it should work, at most you will need a cross-over cable
[13:38] <geekphreak> Curly_Q:  true
[13:38] <SeekTruth> just installed ubuntu.  Why does my laptop fan go beserk most of the time?  Never did that on Windows. Anyone know?
[13:38] <geekphreak> i think gmail use 465 for smtp
[13:39] <vianocturna85> Curly_Q: Thanks
[13:39] <Curly_Q> Your welcome.
[13:39] <norbi905> aar, provided it's a gig port you should be fine as they shoudl auto negotiate, otherwise a cross-over cable is required
[13:39] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, where is ntc suppose to be in?
[13:39] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, i meant utc
[13:39] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, oh
[13:39] <SeekTruth> when I installed Ubuntu, I chose YES to encrypt my home folder.  How can I kknow it's really encrypted?
[13:39] <Shirl> SeekTruth, have you updated since install?
[13:40] <SeekTruth> Shirl, yes, fully updated. why?
[13:40] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, then is that suppose to be in the boot folder?
[13:40] <geekphreak> SeekTruth: hello
[13:40] <SeekTruth> how can I install thunderbird?
[13:40] <Shirl> SeekTruth, my box does that before I updated my graphics chip driver, what gpu do you have?
[13:40] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: back at ya
[13:40] <maginot> vianocturna85, you probably could make some tests with nmap or telnet to see if the port is really blocked...
[13:41] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, what ? utc ? it must be in time settings
[13:41] <geekphreak> SeekTruth: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[13:41] <aldanon> has anyone figured out how to get the proprietary ATI drivers working in 10.04?
[13:41] <aar> Shirl, how can I access the other laptop? Is there a DNS I should type in the browser? Or telnet...?
[13:41] <SeekTruth> Shirl: HP laptop, Nvidia 8400
[13:41] <Kazz|Away> whast alt-tab equivalent in ubuntu ?
[13:41] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  type that in terminal
[13:41] <Kazz|Away> whats*
[13:41] <OsamaK> How can I make a 'changeable background' similar to space backgrounds that comes in a group by default?
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> aldanon:  see #ubuntu+1 and the 10.04 forum threads - is the best answqer to find out.
[13:41] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: when I installed Ubuntu, I chose YES to encrypt my home folder.  How can I kknow it's really encrypted?
[13:42] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  open terminal type sudo mount
[13:42] <Shirl> SeekTruth, my box used nvidia 8900, before i installed the proprietary driver my fan was mad
[13:42] <SeekTruth> Shirl: what do I do?
[13:42] <aldanon> thanks willis
[13:42] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  it will show you it is encrypted
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> OsamaK:  there was some guides/tutorials/scripts for doing that. check my http://delicious.com/dr_willis tags/links - i recall bookmarking it. it was at  some ubuntu news/tutorial site
[13:42] <bjorn_> hi, I updated to Lucid beta 2. and it totally screwed my computer up. I'd like to do a clean install (format entire disk). can this process be started from within Ubuntu, because i dont find the CD bootable
[13:43] <OsamaK> Dr_Willis, What is it called?
[13:43] <geekphreak> bjorn cd would be nice
[13:43] <SeekTruth> geekphreak:  type ecryptfs.. does that mean its encrypted?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> OsamaK:  no idea. all i did was bookmark the site i saw it at
[13:43] <Shirl> SeekTruth, check hardware drivers in admin
[13:43] <bjorn_> geekphreak, yea I got the CD. is it supposed to be bootable?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> OsamaK:  thats why delicious.com uses tags :) to organize things.
[13:43] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, well seem like it was just because the ntp thing was not installed
[13:43] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  thats for your /home/username/.Private ?
[13:43] <SeekTruth> Shirl: how I install drivers for my onboard Nvidia 8400?
[13:44] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: yes
[13:44] <OsamaK> Dr_Willis, I don't use it.
[13:44] <bjorn_> because it doesn't really do anything when rebooting
[13:44] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: sound right?
[13:44] <geekphreak> bjorn_ yes ubuntu cd is bootable , mae sure cdrom is 1st boot device in BIOS
[13:44] <Curly_Q> Bjorn if you go to Barts Boot Disk do a Google on it you can download multiple floppy bootable disks that is if you have a floppy drive.
[13:44] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  its encrypted
[13:44] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, time is back to normal now
[13:44] <bjorn_> i believe it is, but im gonna restart and try again
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> bjorn_:  how did you burn the cd also?
[13:44] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, thank you for helping me
[13:44] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, :) when booting also check your system time, on shutdown, clock sync with system clock, i.e cmos
[13:44] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: so if someone steals my laptop, they can never access all files in my home?
[13:44] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, np
[13:45] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, first thing i adjusted was the bios time XD
[13:45] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  yep its a security  check, need  password ;)
[13:45] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, get your battery changed then maybe :)
[13:45] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: cool cause i have many private docs etc
[13:45] <Shirl> 1472 people in this channel?
[13:45] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: there will be another person using my laptop, shall I create a new user?
[13:46] <booksbuggy> why is this xchat messenger cutting the last word, or letters off O.O?!
[13:46] <dsl558> pirate docs?
[13:46] <Shirl> when i was here last year there was bearly 150
[13:46] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  kool, other good tools there too , which you can use within ubuntu to secure files
[13:46] <SeekTruth> Shirl: why wont u answer me?
[13:46] <Curly_Q> Good to see you Dr Willis. I hope you are having a nice day. Also glad to meet you GeekPhreak.   :)
[13:46] <bazhang> dsl558, what do you mean
[13:46] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: where good tools to secure?
[13:46] <Shirl> SeekTruth, i would reccomend samba
[13:46] <geekphreak> Curly_Q:  like :)
[13:46] <SeekTruth> Shirl: whats samba?
[13:47] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, this computer s pretty new so i don't think the battery is dead yet XD
[13:47] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, ok
[13:47] <dsl558> samba is far from security
[13:47] <SeekTruth> can I place my home on desktop?
[13:47] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  yup create a new account for other users, give him limited perm.
[13:47] <Shirl> SeekTruth, if you have files on on box you want to move to another, i would make a folder say, on the desktop of one, put the files i want to share in it, then right click on the folder and select share
[13:47] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, now i am going to check what the heck is up with this x chat messenger :P
[13:47] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  samba aint for security, its for file sharing
[13:47] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, cutting offf lettersa nd words in sentences
[13:48] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  you need something  like cryptkeeper
[13:48] <topland> hi
[13:48] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: lets say the other user accesses bad websites, porm websites etc... can he infect my username too?
[13:48] <lfuser-041> hi
[13:48] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, check your preferences and stuff
[13:48] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  it iant windows lol
[13:48] <geekphreak> aint*
[13:48] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: i thought u said my HOME was enrypted, so why I need cryptkeeper?
[13:48] <topland> any one can help me for install in openmoko on ubuntu
[13:49] <Curly_Q> SeekTruth, most malicious web sites such as porn sites are focused on Windows applications.
[13:49] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  it is, just incase if you want other user to have same account, you can use cryptkeeper to password locked r  custom files/folder
[13:49] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: so my other user cannot infect me at all even if he visited very nasty porn websites?
[13:50] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: why?  can they infect me?
[13:50] <arvind_khadri> topland, openmoko was a open source project with Linux as the OS for mobile. afaik its not a package
[13:50] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, feels strange when i start this thing up in chinese XD
[13:50] <geekphreak> nope SeekTruth
[13:50] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, okey dokey i am off later
[13:50] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: can I place a link to my HOME on the deskstop?
[13:50] <Curly_Q> SeekTruth, let us put this way, If you have any user, that is considered a SHELL account. True? OK then it is isolated from the root shell.
[13:51] <topland> arvind_khadri i have install openmoko but now want able to connect with pc any more
[13:51] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: eh? :P
[13:51] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  you sure can
[13:51] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: how? :P
[13:51] <arvind_khadri> topland, you mean you have a openmoko phone and you want to connect to the pc ?
[13:51] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  you can create it manually :p or use tools like gtweakui :p
[13:52] <geekphreak> be right back
[13:52] <topland> yes arvin_khadri
[13:52] <Curly_Q> One of the nice advantages of a user account even in Windows is that it is isolated from Root or Administrator privileges.
[13:52] <arvind_khadri> topland, you can use wammu/gaamu
[13:52] <Shirl> how can i hid the mouse pointer when firefox is in full screen?
[13:52] <topland> from where i can get that
[13:53] <Curly_Q> If a user account gets a virus, just delete the account and create a new account or in Linux a new user or shell.
[13:53] <jrib> Shirl: not exactly what you asked but look at unclutter
[13:53] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: how I create it manusally?
[13:53] <arvind_khadri> topland, from the ubuntu repository, <<sudo aptitude install wammu>> do that in a terminal
[13:53] <Shirl> jrib, i tried unclutter, doesnt seem to work
[13:54] <jrib> Shirl: how did you try?
[13:54] <Shirl> jrib, unclutter -display :0.0 -idle 2
[13:54] <Shirl> jrib, but i am accessing that box via vnc
[13:54] <Curly_Q> By way of proper permissions a user or any account cannot cause a virus if root is isolated.
[13:54] <jrib> Shirl: I see
[13:55] <Shirl> jrib, i dont have a screen for it yet
[13:56] <topland> thanks sir arvind_khadri
[13:56] <arvind_khadri> topland, np, am not sir!! :)
[13:57] <Curly_Q> Shirl, why would you not want to see the mouse pointer when using VNC? Is it that you don't want anyone to see your activities?
[13:57] <SeekTruth> I have a text file on my desktop,  but whenever I click to open it, a window pops up asking if i want to run the file or open it.  How can I stop this annoying box?
[13:59] <Curly_Q> SeekTruth, it just may be that the .txt file is not a .txt but an .exe file.
[13:59] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: no. its called data.txt
[13:59] <indus> SeekTruth, yeah its a linux thing, change in properties
[13:59] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: how do I tell Ubuntu to open it as text?
[13:59] <Bohemian> how hard is setting up cvs?
[13:59] <SeekTruth> indus: what properties where?
[13:59] <Curly_Q> SeekTruth the next thing is that rename the .txt to .doc and see if that works.
[14:00] <indus> SeekTruth, are you on windows?
[14:00] <SeekTruth> indus: ubuntu
[14:00] <indus> SeekTruth, so if you set file of that type to open with something, it probably wont ask you again
[14:00] <Curly_Q> Drag that file to Gnome text reader.
[14:01] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: that was bad idea :( now it opens in openoffice which I dont want
[14:01] <indus> SeekTruth, so otherwise it opens with terminal or can run if its a script etc
[14:01] <geekphreak> back
[14:01] <SeekTruth> indus: i did, but its still asking
[14:01] <Curly_Q> Open Office is a great program. That was my next suggestion.
[14:02] <Shirl> Curly_Q, soz the phone went, <rolls-eyes> NO, I intend to have a display, i have made webpages and have firefox add-on to make it full-screen but the stoopid mouse pointer is visible right in the middle of my wonderful display
[14:02] <Curly_Q> Check file permissions.
[14:02] <Kasm279> was the i865 graphicsc bug un-broken in karmic?
[14:02] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: I fixed it.. I right click on txt file, chose properties and unselected the "execute"
[14:02] <Curly_Q> Glad to see that SeekTruth.  :)
[14:03] <SeekTruth> indus: fixed
[14:03] <indus> SeekTruth, yeah i told u its there
[14:03] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  are you running ubuntu for first time?
[14:03] <SeekTruth> indus: no u didnt say to unselect "execute" lol
[14:03] <indus> yeah
[14:03] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: just installed it
[14:03] <indus> somewhere in properties though so its fine
[14:03] <indus> :D
[14:03] <Curly_Q> Shirl, is this program like a screen recorder?
[14:04] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  welcome to ubuntu side ;)
[14:04] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: tossed vista.  But now I have challenges... now I cannot play BF2142, cannot access my mobile phone and my webcam :P
[14:04] <Shirl> Curly_Q, no, this karmic box i am setting up, has no monitor currently, when i drag it down stairs to the pet shop i will plug in the hdtv
[14:05] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: and now I cannot dial out using my VOIP :P
[14:05] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: instal wine
[14:05] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  i can do 2 of the things you said :p
[14:05] <SeekTruth> Kasm279: ive heard bad things about wine.
[14:05] <Kasm279> such as?
[14:05] <Shirl> Curly_Q, then all the box will do is boot up, into karmic, firefox loads from start and goes full screen
[14:05] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: which 2?
[14:05] <indus> wine is just an experiment really
[14:05] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  run cam and use mobile
[14:05] <Curly_Q> Shirl, I have a storage bin with plenty of monitors. Where do you live? I am from Massachusetts.
[14:05] <indus> use windows xp for native work
[14:06] <Shirl> Manchester curly lulz
[14:06] <Shirl> uk.
[14:06] <shab1> what software 3d cad for linux?
[14:06] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: i have a DATA SIM in my mobile which dials out using a Windows application.. which I now cannot instlal in ubuntu :P
[14:06] <indus> shab1, none or blender
[14:06] <indus> shab1, www.blenderproject.org
[14:06] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  beat the mobile company for not making linux drivers :p
[14:06] <indus> shab1, very good indeed but not for parametric / engineering work
[14:07] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: sadly I may need to go back to windows.. cause I need my VOIP and mobile phone access
[14:07] <indus> shab1, but similar to alias,3d studio
[14:07] <Curly_Q> UK. Wow!  No monitors there Shirl?   hehe  :)
[14:07] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  choose what works for you ,
[14:07] <shab1> ok
[14:07] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: ye
[14:07] <neure> what is the correct way to add mounts?
[14:08] <indus> neure, what kind of mounts
[14:08] <neure> i have /dev/sdb with two partitions, usb sd card reader
[14:08] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: are there any free online multiplayer games on Ubuntu?
[14:08] <indus> neure, permanent mounting should be added to /etc/fstab including nfs mounts
[14:08] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  i dont game sorry
[14:08] <indus> neure, also with proper flags
[14:08] <Shirl> what kinda games you like SeekTruth ?
[14:09] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: wise girl ;)
[14:09] <neure> just nano /etc/fstab?
[14:09] <indus> SeekTruth, quake live, nexuiz , open arena , alien arena
[14:09] <indus> neure, yeah
[14:09] <SeekTruth> shift: battlefield 2142, chess.
[14:09] <geekphreak> girl??
[14:09] <geekphreak> man you been working a lot with wine :p
[14:09] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: you not a girl?
[14:09] <OsamaK> SeekTruth, We're about community, we develop what we want to use. If you think we need free software games on GNU/Linux, then please go and contribute to projects that aim to do so.
[14:09] <geekphreak> girl named geekphreak
[14:09] <Curly_Q> Shirl, VNC seems your best option at this point. I believe that most VNC programs have somewhere an option to hide the mouse arrow or cursor.
[14:09] <SeekTruth> OsamaK: everyone been really nice to me and helpful. my first day using ubuntu, and then you come along and are rude. oh well
[14:10] <Shirl> Curly_Q, i tried that and the cursor don't hide, but thanx
[14:10] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  what?
[14:10] <SeekTruth> i read on a webpage that there is a free online and multiplayer game on ubuntu.  shoot others :)
[14:10] <OsamaK> SeekTruth, I'm not. People say to you go and use big corporation dirty games, I say don't.
[14:10] <Curly_Q> I suppose Shirl that in that situation you would be in CONSOLE MODE. Check that out.
[14:11] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: I thought u were a girl, my bad.
[14:11] <indus> SeekTruth, i gave you the names already , did you see
[14:11] <SeekTruth> indus: sorry missed it
[14:11] <Shirl> SeekTruth, I have Unreal2004, Evil Genius, SecondLife, Final Fantasy XI, Star Trek Online and more all on my ubuntu box :P
[14:11] <indus> SeekTruth, quake live, nexuiz , open arena , alien arena
[14:11] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: just search FPS in the Add/Remove applications
[14:11] <Shirl> Curly_Q, will do
[14:11] <geekphreak> i got gnuchess lol
[14:11] <SeekTruth> Shirl: wow, how they run on Ubuntu? through Wine?
[14:11] <indus> SeekTruth, except quake live all are in synaptic
[14:11] <mbutubuntu> hello folks, I need to run Ubuntu Server 9.10 as a guest in a paravirtualized XEN enviroment, the problem is that I can't run the live cdrom, I need a bootable "trunk" accessible via ftp or http... can you help me?
[14:12] <Shirl> SeekTruth, yessir, well plyaonlinux, but SL is natively linux
[14:12] <Curly_Q> Shirl I had this problem once with an old Windows box. I did not have a mouse. I had to use the TAB keys for all of the commands and the up and down right and left arrows and then Enter commands.
[14:12] <SeekTruth> Shirl: whats plyaonlinux?
[14:12] <SeekTruth> Kasm279: I dont see "Add/Remove applications" anywhere,.wher eis that?
[14:13] <maginot> mbutubuntu, well, if I remember ubuntu server isn't live...
[14:13] <indus> SeekTruth, ubuntu software center\
[14:13] <Shirl> SeekTruth, its like a wine version manager, say if you want more than one proggy to work with wine, but different proggys need different versions of wine, the playonlinux manages versions for yoiu
[14:13] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: the ubuntu logo menu
[14:13] <SeekTruth> indus: ok
[14:13] <OsamaK> SeekTruth, The reason Ubuntu was built is to have control over your computer. We achieve many of our goals, but not games. Instead of using these games, let's build our own, after all, we built a complete operating system.
[14:13] <indus> OsamaK, who is 'we'\
[14:13] <SeekTruth> Shirl: is playonlinux expensive to buy?
[14:13] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: personally i love Tremulous
[14:13] <neure> so what flags etc. should i give for sdcard?
[14:13] <OsamaK> indus, the free software community.
[14:13] <SeekTruth> OsamaK: ok
[14:13] <Curly_Q> Otherwise Shirl, you may have to use   Mental Telepathy      <--------------------<    hehe
[14:14] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: give it a try :)
[14:14] <mbutubuntu> maginot, sorry, i didn't want to say LIVE, I mean Installable cd
[14:14] <neure> can i just plug/unplug sdcards in linux?
[14:14] <SeekTruth> ok. do I now need to install or activate a firewall?
[14:14] <Shirl> SeekTruth,  its in the ubuntu repo's but i recommend  you download it
[14:14] <SeekTruth> Kasm279: ok I will. I can play online against others?
[14:14] <indus> OsamaK, we have games if you arent aware yet
[14:14] <Kazz|Away> trying to change resolution on ubuntu running in a VM ... added the vboxadditions and it allowed 1152x864 for a while then restarted the VM and now i cant get the 1152*864 back. stuck with 800*600/640*480 ... any suggestions ?
[14:14] <Hylian> does anyone know if the driver provided by ati for the x1300 can function in 9.10? it couldnt in 8.10 to 9.04...
[14:14] <maginot> mbutubuntu, I don't know if there are anything else, but maybe this can help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick ?
[14:14] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  firewall is built in
[14:14] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: yeah
[14:14] <mbutubuntu> maginot, not not
[14:14] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: read about it in the siftware center
[14:15] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: so I dont need to turn on firewall or anything?  its on by default?
[14:15] <mbutubuntu> maginot, it's the same
[14:15] <indus> OsamaK,he is talking about which games run on ubuntu even though his question sounds like 'does ubuntu have games'
[14:15] <Kasm279> its muiplayer only actually
[14:15] <SeekTruth> Kasm279: cool
[14:15] <Shirl> SeekTruth, there is a knack to getting windows proggys to work with wine, playonlinux has may wizards for some proggys, but to find out if you can run a windows proggy in wine then visit the winehq website
[14:15] <OsamaK> indus, Well, I'm not interested, so yeah, I'm probably not aware. My point was that advocating non-free games here doesn't help the project.
[14:15] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  it is on and you are safe, it aint vista :)
[14:15] <maginot> mbutubuntu, you want something like a pxe ubuntu image?
[14:15] <SeekTruth> do I need to worry about spyware, keyloggers, trojans, malware?
[14:15] <Pici> No.
[14:15] <mbutubuntu> maginot, probably
[14:16] <SeekTruth> i hate checking for spyware, keyloggers, trojans, malware on vista every day.. you mean those days are gone? :))))))
[14:16] <Curly_Q> Kazz|Away isn't that command   ctrl alt +   or something like that?
[14:16] <indus> OsamaK, there is nothing wrong with non free stuff , ubuntu is a platform to run either
[14:16] <Pici> SeekTruth: Linux doesn't have that problem.
[14:16] <Shirl> SeekTruth, crossover is a paid wine version manager, prolly best for you if your noobish
[14:16] <Shirl> but that costs
[14:16] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  you are safe
[14:16] <SeekTruth> Pici: do I need to defrag?  I think I have ext4 file system?
[14:16] <Hylian> anyone know if the ati fglrx driver for the x1300 can function in 9.10?
[14:16] <maginot> mbutubuntu, well, I guess you could install ubuntu at someplace and make a img to boot from network, I'm using LTSP for pxe boot on my boxes
[14:16] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  lol no you dont
[14:16] <indus> Hylian, it wont
[14:16] <Pici> Hylian: It cannot, you must used the open source driver.
[14:16] <neothecat> good morning. i have "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java" has my java selection.  but whenever i run netbeans, i uses openjdk.  does anyone know what i did wrong?
[14:16] <SeekTruth> Shirl: so playonlinux is like wine but better?
[14:16] <Kazz|Away> Curly_Q ... did you have the right Ka ???
[14:17] <norbi905> mbutubuntu, LTSP works fine out of the box for PXE boot, give it a try
[14:17] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: so I never have to defrag ever?
[14:17] <OsamaK> indus, It is all wrong and unethical, Ubuntu operating system is a platform, Ubuntu project is (or 'supposed to be') a free software-only project.
[14:17] <Shirl> SeekTruth, it is a wine version manager so you kinda right
[14:17] <hellz_bellz> what is the command to upgrade to the new ubuntu beta?
[14:17] <mbutubuntu> ok
[14:17] <maginot> SeekTruth, just keep the system update to avoid any exploit =)
[14:17] <Hylian> indus thanx. i was hoping it would. i am still being forced to use pclinuxos 2009. not my first choice, but it uses my ati driver. :(
[14:17] <Pici> hellz_bellz: See the topic in #ubuntu+1
[14:17] <SeekTruth> maginot: :)
[14:17] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  nope , not on linux
[14:17] <norbi905> mbutubuntu, I believe Ubuntu server has it build in as well, not sure though
[14:17] <Curly_Q> Kazz|Away I used that command years ago with Red Hat.
[14:17] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: wow awesome.. used to hate having to defrag
[14:18] <Kazz|Away> wrong kazz :>
[14:18] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: what about when I delete files?  are they securely deleted, or I need a secure file wipe program?
[14:18] <indus> Hylian, because older chips are no longer supported , but unless you game, the open source driver works great
[14:18] <Shirl> Curly_Q, i remember when i were younger, a mouse was a luxury
[14:18] <Kasm279> lol
[14:18] <geekphreak> seek you can use wipe progra from linux, it can be downlaoded
[14:18] <maginot> SeekTruth, search for wipe
[14:18] <Kasm279> who uses mice?
[14:18] <hellz_bellz> would anyone here know of any free milservers I can host my domainname on to forward mail to my personal mail server becuase i use mercury mail server and i cant run two OS's on this comp at once lol
[14:18] <Curly_Q> Lol Shirl.   :)
[14:19] <SeekTruth> so the ubuntu delete dont wipe the files properly and someone can undelete the files?
[14:19] <Hylian> indus, i tried the open source driver, made the screen funky and continuously crashed the pc.
[14:19] <maginot> SeekTruth, "apt-get install wipe" its what you need
[14:19] <indus> Hylian, hmm shouldnt , it works nice with x 1300
[14:19] <Curly_Q> Kazz|Away take a look at this site also Shirl.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_keyboard_shortcuts
[14:19] <indus> Hylian, well, difficult to trouble shoot these things
[14:19] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  by default yes, but you can use wipe tools, it a ll free
[14:19] <neure> http://pastie.org/911412
[14:19] <SeekTruth> maginot: so a file can be undeleted if I dont use wipe?
[14:19] <neure> do the last two entries look ok?
[14:20] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: so how would I undelete a file then?
[14:20] <geekphreak> like you do on windows :p
[14:20] <maginot> SeekTruth, that depends on the wipe level you make, most times it will be unrecoverable
[14:20] <Pici> !undelete | SeekTruth
[14:20] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: so if I delete a file and empty the bin, I can still undelete the file?
[14:20] <Hylian> indus, maybe ill try it again then, maybe something happened since 9.04. but since windows with my driver and pclinuxos09 with the linux ati driver both work without hiccups, and then ubuntu with the open source driver is buggior than a swamp, i assumed it was the opensource driver
[14:21] <SeekTruth> Pici: I use ext4 i think, not ext3
[14:21] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  you can use tools
[14:21] <maginot> SeekTruth, if you install wipe you can delete a file with "wipe -Q 7 <file>"
[14:21] <SeekTruth> k
[14:21] <geekphreak> pici ty for links :)
[14:21] <indus> Hylian, oh a lot has changed since 9.04 the drivers are much improved
[14:21] <switchgirl> !lucid
[14:21] <ech0Asus> anyone have a google voice account? i want an invite :(
[14:21] <norbi905> SeekTruth, a file is never deleted from the drive unless you overwrite that part with random data a few times... regardless of OS
[14:22] <bazhang> ech0Asus, offtopic here
[14:22] <indus> Hylian, try 10.04 beta 2 :)
[14:22] <Hylian> indus, thats great news. I am a gamer, but i can live without games. I just cant live without pc halting bugs.
[14:22] <indus> Hylian, you can play games too except a few like quake 4
[14:22] <maginot> norbi905, that is the function of wipe, Q option tell how many passes it must do over the file =) 7 is know to be secure.
[14:22] <SeekTruth> if someone boots my laptop with a CD and then reads my Ubuntu partition, can they access and read my files in my HOME folder?  I chose to encrypt my home folder during installation, so its all encrypted when ubuntu isnt loaded, right?
[14:23] <indus> Hylian, also with tthe open source driver you get a nice graphical boot experience etc
[14:23] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Yep
[14:23] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: correct
[14:23] <Hylian> indus thats impressive, because in 9.04, the open source driver could barely run the pc. Happy happy joy joy, LOL
[14:23] <indus> Hylian, flicker free boot by april release of 10.04
[14:23] <SeekTruth> cool
[14:23] <SeekTruth> im starting to like Ubuntu :)
[14:23] <Kasm279> speaking of graphics
[14:23] <norbi905> maginot, sorry, didn't read your reply, kinda in and out of the chat :) you are right
[14:23] <Kasm279> was the i865 graphicsc bug un-broken in karmic?
[14:23] <Shirl> Curly_Q, wow thats a stunning table, I dont think i explained my problem too well lulz, mouse works fine, i just wish i could make the pointer disappear
[14:24] <SeekTruth> theadmin: so they can still read my files in HOME even though I chose to encrypt my home folder?
[14:24] <Hylian> indus thanks man!
[14:24] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  stay with it then dude, you are gonna like it :)
[14:24] <OsamaK> So any idea how to make a group of changeable backgrounds similar to the space one available by default?
[14:24] <indus> Hylian, np
[14:24] <geekphreak> theadmin: howdy boy :)
[14:24] <SeekTruth> erUSUL: are you answering "correct" to my question "if someone boots my laptop with a CD and then reads my Ubuntu partition, can they access and read my files in my HOME folder?"
[14:24] <theadmin> geekphreak: ohai
[14:24] <indus> whats google voice btw
[14:24] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Err, they won't be able to do so if it's encrypted
[14:24] <SeekTruth> theadmin: ok u confused me :P
[14:25] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: yes, they can.
[14:25] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  your is encrypted due, so they wont relax
[14:25] <SeekTruth> Kuifje111: they can?  so whats the use of encryption?
[14:25] <Kasm279> indus: a chat app
[14:25] <kernel_geek> Where is the xorg.conf located on newer version of ubunut. Its not in /etc/X11/ anymore ?
[14:25] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: so its all encrypted  when ubuntu isnt loaded, right?
[14:25] <xomp> anyone know the ubuntu equivilant of 'iptables -L' ?
[14:25] <Kasm279> with VOIP
[14:25] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: so its all encrypted  when ubuntu isnt loaded, right? <<< correct
[14:25] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: they cant if its encrypted though.
[14:25] <theadmin> kernel_geek: Ubuntu does NOT use this file anymore unless it's created explicitly
[14:25] <SeekTruth> ok excellent :-)
[14:25] <indus> kernel_geek, its there but empty these days , hardly used
[14:25] <SeekTruth> in case it gets stolen etc,, want all my personal files safe
[14:26] <kernel_geek> theadmin: okay where can I alter settings ?
[14:26] <SeekTruth> so I dont need to install truecrypt now?
[14:26] <theadmin> kernel_geek: You can explicitly create this file if you need :D
[14:26] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: no
[14:26] <geekphreak> SeekTruth: it is upto you
[14:26] <SeekTruth> erUSUL: ok
[14:26] <maginot> kernel_geek, X11 now auto configures your X server ,so only create a xorg.conf if you need some special
[14:26] <Curly_Q> Shirl, I understand what you are talking about, I was just sharing a cool link with you.
[14:26] <theadmin> xomp: Uh, that works perfectly on Ubuntu
[14:26] <kernel_geek> this annoys me, what reason would they have to take it away other than "they can"
[14:26] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  normally you are ok
[14:26] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: why would I need it if HOME is already encrypted?
[14:27] <zamba> i can't get oidentd binding to my ipv6 address in ubuntu karmic
[14:27] <kernel_geek> maginot: So I can just add sections I need, I dont need to right a whole config ?
[14:27] <xomp> theadmin, I'm getting "-bash: iptables: command not found" when doing so from the console as root
[14:27] <zamba> it works just fine in intrepid
[14:27] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  if more people use same account, then other tools come to picture
[14:27] <Kasm279> kernel_geek: yeah
[14:27] <Fernin> Question: PulseAudio in 9.10 seems to stop sending audio from an application to my soundcard if the application is open for a long period of time. Example: Firefox is left open over night with Pandora or a Youtube page. If I attempt to play the video/pandora the next day, I get no audio until I restart Firefox. Anyone have a solution?
[14:27] <maginot> kernel_geek, you can see what your X11 is using reading /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:27] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: only I will use this account, but im adding another user
[14:27] <indus> SeekTruth, if you encrypt home , ill let you know its not easy to recover if something goes wrong
[14:27] <theadmin> xomp: Uh, works for me :/
[14:27] <SeekTruth> indus: ok
[14:28] <maginot> kernel_geek, yes you can just add the section you need, indeed. If you needa full xorg.conf use X -configure
[14:28] <geekphreak> indus:  he has ecnryption on $HOME
[14:28] <indus> well, forget the password and get sc****ed
[14:28] <theadmin> xomp: http://pastebin.com/u1ttj9Nq
[14:28] <SeekTruth> indus: I will backup Ubuntu regularly. I own Acronis Trueimage
[14:28] <geekphreak> lol
[14:28] <maginot> xomp, iptables is inside /sbin, which you may need access as root (sudo -i )
[14:29] <xomp> maginot, root@ubuntu:~# sudo iptables -L
[14:29] <xomp> sudo: iptables: command not found
[14:29] <geekphreak> indus:  you are right, i remeber happened to me :)
[14:29] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: yeah it says, "/home/seektruth/.Private on /home/seektruth type ecryptfs (ecryptfs_sig=jfdkfjdj998493kjkjkjkjf
[14:29] <maginot> xomp, have you installed iptables ? ;D
[14:29] <xomp> maginot, lol no
[14:29] <xomp> I thought it was standard
[14:29] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: when I type sudo mount
[14:29] <geekphreak> SeekTruth: ok
[14:29] <maginot> xomp, apt-get install iptables
[14:29] <maginot> :)
[14:30] <xomp> thanks, sorry for the stupid question hah
[14:30] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: so its encrypted :)
[14:30] <maginot> np
[14:30] <theadmin> Okay, i want to block host x with iptables. How to?
[14:30] <Shirl> Curly_Q, oh fphew! lulz
[14:30] <maginot> theadmin, that depends, block what, from which direction
[14:30] <Curly_Q> Who was asking about monitor resolution?   There is a program called Xvidtune that works nicely. It must be used with much caution though.
[14:30] <SeekTruth> anyone use rkhunter? saw it on a website
[14:30] <theadmin> maginot: Say, block all outgoing connections to example.net
[14:30] <Kazz|Away> I was but ...
[14:30] <Kazz|Away> now it allows me to stretch the VM window
[14:31] <maginot> theadmin, outgoing from the iptables server or from a network which the iptables redirects ?
[14:31] <Kazz|Away> and it shows in the settings what the resolution is
[14:31] <Kazz|Away> * shrug *
[14:31] <maginot> theadmin, iptables -I OUTPUT -d example.net -j DENY or iptables -I FORWARD -d example.net -j DENY
[14:31] <Curly_Q> Oh yes, Kazz|Away  Xvidtune. I am not sure that it is supported though.
[14:31] <maginot> theadmin, but keep in mind that example.net will be converted to an IP address from the time you issue the rule
[14:31] <theadmin> maginot: uh... %) From the same comp on which iptablez is installed. So which one
[14:32] <maginot> theadmin, you must deny on OUTPUT chain
[14:32] <geekphreak> catch you all later peeps, have a good one :)
[14:32] <theadmin> maginot: Makes perfect sense except one thing. Uh. Why on earth is everything written in caps?
[14:32] <SeekTruth> when I want to remove a USB stick, do I choose eject or unmount?
[14:33] <hydester> i have an intel pentium dual T2310.  the intel specs say it is 64-bit.  the ISO image are for AMD64 and x86.  how does intel 64-bit get utilized?  i am currently running Jaunty and i am trying to figure out if it is using 64-bit
[14:33] <maginot> theadmin, not everything, just the chains, and the target (which may be a chain)
[14:33] <theadmin> maginot: I see %) And the rule (DENY)
[14:33] <Curly_Q> Kazz|Away I must caution you that anytime you use any software or drivers to change your video resolution, you can damage your monitor. I had that happen years ago.
[14:33] <maginot> theadmin, that is the target, not the rule
[14:33] <theadmin> maginot: oh o_O
[14:34] <SeekTruth> i want to play songs.  what I do to get all proper codecs?  Install vlc or other method?
[14:34] <theadmin> okay it's confusing. Is there any iptables GUI?
[14:34] <SeekTruth> theadmin: when I want to remove a USB stick, do I choose eject or unmount?
[14:34] <theadmin> SeekTruth: vlc has all codecs, you can also install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[14:34] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Will act the same. No idea why nautilus shows both.
[14:34] <SeekTruth> theadmin: how do I install install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package?
[14:34] <maginot> theadmin, this is the rule "-I OUTPUT -d example.net -j DENY" with is the same as "-t filter -I OUTPUT -d example.net -j DENY"
[14:34] <Kazz|Away> running ubuntu in a VM ... i doubt ill stress the monitor as ubunut isnt maxing out
[14:35] <theadmin> SeekTruth: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras... are you new to Linux?
[14:35] <maginot> theadmin, maybe there is something, but I really can't tell you, never used gui for iptables
[14:35] <SeekTruth> theadmin: my first day
[14:35] <hydester> theadmin: firestarter is an iptables GUI
[14:35] <theadmin> hydester: A bad one :P It crashes nm-applet
[14:35] <SeekTruth> theadmin: ok. i typed "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[14:35] <hydester> theadmin: how about using ufw?
[14:36] <hydester> theadmin: not as a gui, but to make it easier
[14:36] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Where did you type it?
[14:36] <SeekTruth> hydester: why? firewall is already on by default
[14:36] <PapaGoose> hi all!
[14:36] <SeekTruth> theadmin: in terminal
[14:36] <Curly_Q> Kazz|Away I am a Licensed Master Technician in Radio and Television. I have many degrees in Physics and Electrical and Electronic Engineering. Just make sure you follow the manufactures instructions though.
[14:36] <PapaGoose> does anyone know how to set a process to idle priority in ubuntu 9.04?
[14:36]  * maginot don't like those "firewalls" wanna be, I prefer the good and solid iptables
[14:36] <SeekTruth> theadmin: is that the place I should type it?
[14:36] <theadmin> SeekTruth: That goes to a terminal :P And then we hit Enter, if it asks us whether we want to continue, we type "y" and then enter again
[14:37] <BCI> bom dia
[14:37] <bazhang> !br | BCI
[14:37] <theadmin> PapaGoose: I think something like this will work: killall -s STOP processname
[14:37] <bonez2046> how can I refresh the sound driver?
[14:37] <hydester> SeekTruth: what firewall is on by default?
[14:37] <classical> Hey all
[14:37] <bonez2046> sound worked yesterday when I was on my 9.10 desktop and now, nothing
[14:38] <classical> need some help
[14:38] <theadmin> classical: What with?
[14:38] <xomp> maginot, would you happen to know how I could allow a program (in my case srcds) to have only  write access to a handfull of directories and read-only for everything else? I have no GUI and will be doing it all via console :3
[14:38] <classical> i have got only 1.3 gb of space
[14:38] <classical> on my hdd
[14:38] <classical> and i want to install ubuntu
[14:38] <classical> mini version or something
[14:38] <theadmin> xomp: Create a user which has access only to those dirs, and run this program as that user
[14:39] <SeekTruth> hydester: Ubuntu comes with firewall on by default.
[14:39] <tHW> geekphreak: Arvind is MIA
[14:39] <Curly_Q> I must go for a while all you good folks. Hope to see you soon. Take care Shirl and Kazz|Away and all else.  :)
[14:39] <theadmin> classical: Hm. Dunno even... Maybe #! will do... (Not sure how much space it takes though)
[14:39] <classical> http://pud-linux.sourceforge.net/index.en.html  i find this but i dont like this distro
[14:39] <SeekTruth> hydester: why you need firestarter? its just a gui for the firewall.  I just read about it :)
[14:39] <Shirl> laterz curly
[14:39] <xomp> theadmin, what if I have a user already created that's apart from admin, can I change their access via the console to allow this instead of creating a whole new user?
[14:39] <Curly_Q> ;)
[14:39] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: nite
[14:40] <classical> theadmin, I just wanna original Ubuntu Iso without open office and Other stuff
[14:40] <Curly_Q> Good to see you again SeekTruth. Take care.
[14:40] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: ;)
[14:40] <theadmin> xomp: Sure thingy %) read the following: man chmod and man chown
[14:40] <theadmin> classical: hm, we have some minimal ISO, no idea what it is though
[14:41] <classical> theadmin, what kinda of minimal iso can you link it please ?
[14:41] <PapaGoose> theadmin: what does the STOP signal actually do? is that temporarily halting execution, or running it in otherwise idle CPU time?
[14:41] <xomp> theadmin, is it noob friendly? I barely know what I'm doing hah
[14:41] <classical> theadmin, I have already seen this http://fluxbuntu.org/  but im kinda in doubt
[14:41] <theadmin> PapaGoose: It's halting it until you issue the CONT signal
[14:41] <theadmin> xomp: More or less
[14:42] <theadmin> classical: Don't use that, it's dead.
[14:42] <SeekTruth> xomp: welcome to the club :)
[14:42] <hydester> SeekTruth: funny, i never noticed any firewall on by default.  that is, it wasn't blocking anything by default.  i was just suggesting firestarter as a GUI.  i thought theadmin was asking.  i misread what he said.
[14:42] <theadmin> There is no firewall apart from iptables by default
[14:42] <maginot> xomp, what theadmin is telling you is the best approach.. I would prefer still creating a group and changing the directory group for the one created, and put the user that runs your application inside that group, this will make only users from that group to have access to the directory
[14:42] <hydester> theadmin: is it allowing all by default?
[14:42] <SeekTruth> hydester: i was told that firewall is already blocking everything, because no ports are being listened to
[14:42] <theadmin> hydester: Yes
[14:43] <maginot> theadmin, I think ubuntu come with ufw, but never used it
[14:43] <SeekTruth> theadmin: are u saying we need to install a firewall?
[14:43] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Not at all, unless you want to block access somewhere
[14:43] <classical> theadmin, so what to do ? :-(  do you have any suggestion ?
[14:43] <PapaGoose> theadmin: hmm not quite then. is there something like idprio on BSD that could be used? i'm trying to make it so that all other processes have complete priority over a small set of CPU intensive tasks, and setting priority 19 doesn't seem to be quite enough
[14:43] <aloprot> I've purge some files like pppoeconf....my network manager is grey(not working) how do i repair that?
[14:43] <SeekTruth> theadmin: do I need to block something for security reasons?
[14:44] <chao06> is there a way I can have nm-applet, gnome-volume-control-applet and gnome-power-manager independent of the notification area?
[14:44] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Nah
[14:44] <SeekTruth> whats a good music player with playlists etc?
[14:44] <theadmin> PapaGoose: There is "nice" thing but... Not sure how to use it
[14:44] <aloprot> i can't have an internet connection no more because i purged pppoeconf...and network manager has conflicts:|
[14:44] <theadmin> SeekTruth: try vlc
[14:45] <SeekTruth> theadmin: besides vlc :P
[14:45] <SeekTruth> dont ubuntu have a cool player, like winamp for windows?
[14:45] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Well, never even used anything apart from it because it's coolish
[14:45] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: VLC.
[14:45] <overmind> SeekTruth: mplayer
[14:45] <chao06> SeekTruth: xmms
[14:45] <theadmin> Winamp? Meh
[14:45] <xomp> Winamp is so 1990
[14:45] <xomp> :3
[14:46] <PapaGoose> theadmin: ah right, well thanks for the advice :) i'm currently using nice to lower the priority of those tasks, but i might now try using ulimit to boost the priority of everything else
[14:46] <SeekTruth> xomp: the same year you were born? ;)
[14:46] <xomp> lol no, 1978 for this old man :P
[14:46] <chao06> SeekTruth: you'll have to dig through old repositories for dependencies, but xmms is the best and closest to winamp you'll get
[14:46] <SeekTruth> so VLC is the closest I will get to winamp?
[14:46] <SeekTruth> chao06: ah ok
[14:46] <erUSUL> !info audacious | SeekTruth
[14:46] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: you could try WINE and winamp if you really want to use winamp.
[14:47] <bazhang> chao06, xmms is replaced with audacious
[14:47] <SeekTruth> what I love about Ubuntu is I can install anything from repos, play around with it, and if I dont like it, just remove... not like windows where programs leave traces behind and screws the system up
[14:47] <chao06> SeekTruth: audacious is decended from xmms, but it's slow and crashy
[14:47] <PapaGoose> SeekTruth: what's with rhythmbox or amarok?
[14:47] <hydester> is amarok any good for music?
[14:47] <Zider> audacious is nice
[14:47] <SeekTruth> chao06: so you recommend  xmms?
[14:47] <theadmin> amarok takes a friggin' minute to just start up
[14:47] <SeekTruth> over audacious?
[14:47] <Zider> amarok is bloated, but nice if you have a huuge collection
[14:47] <SeekTruth> theadmin: hehe
[14:48] <erUSUL> !xmms | SeekTruth
[14:48] <PapaGoose> i would use rhythmbox because its got a nice interface and its pretty fast
[14:48] <maginot> SeekTruth, xmms is gone now, you can use vlc, rhythmbox, juk or something like this
[14:48] <PapaGoose> but i use amarok at the moment because rhythmbox can't output optical audio
[14:48] <chao06> SeekTruth: absolutely... audacious is bloated, especially for the function it serves... and xmms2 doesn't work the same way
[14:48] <SeekTruth> whats xmms2 like then?
[14:48] <SeekTruth> chao06: so what do you use?
[14:48] <sinistrad> !lucid
[14:49] <SeekTruth> chao06: so audacious crashes on you a lot?
[14:49] <classical> I have 1.3 gb hdd but my pc is not weak just got a small hdd what ditro to use?  any suggestions ?
[14:49] <chao06> SeekTruth: I use Rhythmbox for managing my library, xmms for on the fly playlists, and totem for playing audio files out of nautilus
[14:49] <SeekTruth> Zider: you prefer audacious?
[14:49] <hydester> so, anybody know if ubuntu can take advantage of 64-bit intel processors?
[14:49] <Zider> SeekTruth: it's my choice in linux, yeah
[14:49] <theadmin> hydester: Yes obviously, use the 64-bit release
[14:50] <hydester> theadmin: isn't the 64-bit for AMD?
[14:50] <theadmin> hydester: Well, it's just called "amd64", works with Intel processors too
[14:50] <chao06> SeekTruth: well, alot may be somewhat of an overstatement, but my purposes require absolute stability, and audacious has never given me that
[14:50] <maginot> SeekTruth, if you like simplicity use VLC, it plays everything beside music
[14:50] <erUSUL> classical: http://www.slitaz.org
[14:50] <BinaryBob> you know how there are startup scripts in /etc/init.d for services?  What is that called?  I want to google for the right term so I can read about how to write my own scripts and add my own services correctly
[14:50] <Zider> I've never had stability issues with audacious
[14:50] <hydester> theadmin: ah, quite confusing.  is it easy to upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit?
[14:50] <SeekTruth> maginot: besides music?
[14:50] <theadmin> maginot: Huh wha? Uh, dude, it plays music fine
[14:50] <BinaryBob> is that called init?
[14:51] <theadmin> hydester: You have to reinstall
[14:51] <maginot> theadmin, sorry, wrong word =X
[14:51] <maginot> Seeker`, ^
[14:51] <erUSUL> BinaryBob: System V init system
[14:51] <maginot> ops
[14:51] <maginot> SeekTruth, ^
[14:51] <theadmin> BinaryBob: It's called Upstart.
[14:51] <FloodBot4> maginot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:51] <classical> erUSUL, ya i know but its too minimalistic i think :-(
[14:51] <erUSUL> BinaryBob: read /etc/init.d/skeleton is an example/stub
[14:51] <SeekTruth> maginot: u over tired? :)
[14:51] <BinaryBob> thank you!!
[14:51] <maginot> SeekTruth, I mean, it plays everything and music =D
[14:51] <brush> hello
[14:51] <SeekTruth> lol
[14:51] <bo7amny> hello
[14:52] <chao06> is there a way I can have nm-applet, gnome-volume-control-applet and gnome-power-manager independent of the notification area?
[14:52] <maginot> SeekTruth, sometimes I get confused with some english words =X
[14:52] <theadmin> maginot: XD well especially movies. When you get a weird .mkv and have no idea what codecs are used... VLC is a lifesaver
[14:52] <hydester> theadmin: is it worth it?  that is, do you think i'll notice any benefit on a 1.5 ghz T2310 laptop with 2 GB ram?
[14:52] <brush> as i see, the early morning update removed compiz. only for me?
[14:52] <theadmin> hydester: None, because 64-bit is of any advantage with 4+ GB of RAM
[14:52] <bazhang> brush, for lucid?
[14:53] <hydester> hmm, i thought 64-bit is also faster due to efficiency reasons
[14:53] <Zider> theadmin: I thought it gave better performance in some (rare) cases too
[14:53] <brush> bazhang, of course... i am sorry
[14:53] <hydester> so only for utilizing more ram?
[14:53] <SeekTruth> Ok I need to start again... What plays MP4 files which are videos?
[14:53] <theadmin> hydester: Pretty much yeah
[14:53] <bazhang> brush, #ubuntu+1 for lucid please
[14:53] <xubunto1_> a litle help with a caffeine
[14:53] <theadmin> SeekTruth: VLC...
[14:53] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: vlc  ; mplayer ...
[14:53] <SeekTruth> ok back to VLC :)
[14:53] <aar> Hi, I'm trying to FTP or SSH from my computer (ubuntu, 192.0.168.4) to another computer (ubuntu, 192.0.168.5) in a LAN. I get "no route to host" error. How can I trace the route so the two boxes find each other?
[14:53] <SeekTruth> audacious only plays music, dont show the videos
[14:53] <brush> oki
[14:53] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: totem default player does it too
[14:54] <xubunto1_> with plugin i must to install to use the dvb-s with a kaffeine?
[14:54] <SeekTruth> erUSUL: ok
[14:54] <maginot> SeekTruth, VLC plays everything I have seen so far
[14:54] <SeekTruth> ill go play around and see which one I like the best
[14:54] <dewman> aar, can you ping the other host?
[14:54] <hydester> SeekTruth: you can't go wrong with vlc for video media
[14:54] <SeekTruth> bbl :)
[14:54] <theadmin> maginot: Does not play midi's (on Windows, plays fine on Linux XD)
[14:54] <SeekTruth> hydester: ok
[14:54] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: just install ubuntu-restricted-extras and the ffmpeg gstreamer plugon
[14:54] <SeekTruth> erUSUL: i did
[14:54] <Kuifje111> aar: "trace 192.0.168.5"?
[14:54] <aar> dewman, no -- "host unreachable".
[14:54] <Kuifje111> or tracert*
[14:55] <erUSUL> aar: what is the output of « ip route »
[14:55] <erUSUL> ?
[14:55] <erUSUL> !paste
[14:55] <SeekTruth> i want to remove audacious and use vlc.. how do I totally remove and uninstall audacious?
[14:56] <chao06> SeekTruth: 'sudo apt-get purge audacious'
[14:56] <Kuifje111> apt-get remove audacious?
[14:56] <SeekTruth> chao06: cheers
[14:56] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Recommend you to read "man apt-get" someday. Do: sudo apt-get purge... well, what chao06 said
[14:56] <aar> erUSUL, 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth1  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.0.4 ---- default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth1 ---- default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth1
[14:56] <SeekTruth> whats diff between remove and purge?
[14:56] <theadmin> SeekTruth: "remove" leaves configuration files
[14:56] <SeekTruth> purge then is best
[14:56] <SeekTruth> brb
[14:57] <aar> Kuifje111, this is the output of tracert: 1  192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4)  3000.059 ms !H  3000.065 ms !H  3000.067 ms !H (just 1 hop)
[14:57] <SeekTruth> on vista I was always too scared to download and install programs to play around with.. but in ubuntu its great and easy and safe and easy to purge :)
[14:57] <erUSUL> aar: what is the exact command you used? you typed the wrong ip's on the first question... 192.0.168.4 192.0.168.5
[14:57] <xomp> ok, don't think I have the brain power to figure out permissions and such with chmod/chown lol. Would be way easier if I had a GUI but I'm using a VPS "Linode" and from what I gather, it's all console baby..
[14:57] <ehmphy> ce...cht me??
[14:57] <SeekTruth> and NO REGISTRY :)
[14:58] <erUSUL> aar: that two ip should be 192.168.0.[4,5]
[14:58] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Yep :D
[14:58] <rocket16_> Friends, I am trapped in a problem, I have only Uuntu 9.10 installed, using the entire Hard Disk, and before, it did not show the Grub menu. But now, it shows it, and unless I select the Ubuntu kernel, nothing happens. The default entry does not boot up. Also, the Login screen takes more time to load. (I recently installed Ubuntu-studio).
[14:58] <aar> erUSUL, 192.0.168.4 is my internal IP. 192.0.168.5 is the IP of the box I want to FTP to.
[14:58] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Registry is only good for viruses lol
[14:58] <SeekTruth> theadmin: :-)
[14:58] <teguh> ubuntu 64 bit, google chrome can not play flash
[14:58] <aar> erUSUL, my command was: sudo tracert 192.168.0.5
[14:58] <erUSUL> aar: no; see the ip route output the lan is 192.168.0.x
[14:59] <haavaros> Hm, I'm trying to add a fat32 disk to fstab, but it doesn't recognize 'fat' as a filesystem ... Is 'vfat' (as suggested by error dialog) the correct fs name?
[14:59] <skino> Afternoon All. Is there anyone who can help with Nautilus. Every time i start up i have no icons ETC on my DEsktop and im unable to Right click on the desktop... When i try run Nautilus In terminal i get the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/411620/
[14:59] <theadmin> haavaros: vfat, yes.
[14:59] <SeekTruth> ok im VLC how do u show the playlist?
[14:59] <erUSUL> aar: so why you keep typing the ip's wrong here? is confusing ...
[14:59] <haavaros> theadmin: thx
[14:59] <theadmin> SeekTruth: There is this button which looks like some kinda list
[14:59] <theadmin> haavaros: wha
[14:59] <SeekTruth> theadmin: found it :)
[15:00] <rocket16_> So, what to do?
[15:00] <darksider> uhm..can someone help me with a FATAL error im having? my laptop boots up and goes to login, but when i login it goes to a shell for like a nano second and then goes back to login. i can login 100 times and nothing happens. i caught a glimpse of the shell and it said something about "init crypto"
[15:01] <theadmin> darksider: hit Ctrl+Alt+f1 on login screen please and give the full error
[15:01] <darksider> theadmin, two secs plz
[15:02] <theadmin> Hm, i wonder how is it proper to say Ctrl+Alt+F1? ^M-F1?
[15:02] <maginot> theadmin, Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[15:02] <maginot> ;X
[15:02] <rdg> anyone here familiar with the construction of the ubuntu  apache-tomcat package?
[15:02] <theadmin> maginot: Well, you know, the Nano style lol like it reffers to Ctrl as ^ and to Alt as M-
[15:02] <rdg> I'm confused as to why tomcat is split between /usr/share and /var/lib, especially when it doesn't seem to work all that well
[15:03] <maginot> theadmin, another reason to not use nano lol
[15:03] <theadmin> maginot: nano is fine with me
[15:03] <Kuifje111> nano vi.
[15:03] <Zider> nano <3
[15:03] <maginot> theadmin, I have already get used with vi... so other looks strange =P
[15:03] <darksider> [      33.781050] Intel AES-NI instructions are not detected ***
[15:03] <SeekTruth> be back tomorrow, thanks everyone.  see ya theadmin , maginot  and erUSUL and chao06 and Kuifje111 and hydester
[15:03] <naadde> I deleted with tasksel ubuntu-desktop. Tried to tasksel install xubuntu-desktop for getting something lighter
[15:03]  * darksider cries
[15:03] <Kuifje111> bye SeekTruth.
[15:03] <theadmin> maginot: I can't get vi, it's confusing. Well, to each it's own
[15:03] <naadde> it won't get installed
[15:04] <theadmin> naadde: Any errors?
[15:04] <naadde> theadmin: yea
[15:04] <bluebaron> anyone know what m1f1 means for cd read mode?
[15:04] <hh> fff
[15:04] <maginot> theadmin, vi is like riding a bicycle when you learn you never forgets =D
[15:04] <hh> hello
[15:04] <naadde> theadmin: It starts installing packages please wait...
[15:04] <hh> hi
[15:04] <naadde> when it says aptitude failed (100)
[15:04] <hh> can i have chat with anybody
[15:05] <naadde> retrieved file 57 of 972
[15:05] <theadmin> naadde: Hm. Run "sudo apt-get -f"
[15:05] <theadmin> em
[15:05] <darksider> theadmin, this is the error that shows after login, and instead of starting x (i think thats what i use) it goes to shell after printing this- [      33.781050] Intel AES-NI instructions are not detected ***
[15:05] <theadmin> naadde: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:05] <naadde> t
[15:05] <naadde> 0 installed
[15:05] <naadde> and 5 not upgraded
[15:05] <theadmin> darksider: Some hardware stuff...... %) Can't help anymore, sorry
[15:05] <rakesh> hi
[15:05] <jyraia> how i make Thunar default File Manager and remove Nautilus
[15:05] <jyraia> ?
[15:05] <rakesh> helllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[15:05] <theadmin> naadde: There. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[15:06] <eastbaynight> hey, i'm trying to get my webcam to work on firefox, but i can't figure out how, anyone know that?
[15:06] <darksider> theadmin, it was working ok last night...is there any particular reason it would decide to do this now ?
[15:06] <theadmin> darksider: No idea.
[15:06] <rocket16_> !hello | rakesh
[15:06] <psycho_oreos> darksider, AES-N1 sounds like encryption technology, if from Intel, its most likely missing instruction, not-capable chipset or no chipset with that technology found
[15:06] <theadmin> rocket16_: You're somewhat late
[15:06] <naadde> theadmin: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[15:06] <theadmin> naadde: Ah, something wrong with the servers
[15:06] <bluebaron> hh http://www.pandorabots.com/pandora/talk?botid=f5d922d97e345aa1
[15:07] <bluebaron> ah he left
[15:07] <darksider> psycho_oreos, hmm..so maybe i should turn off crypto disks ?
[15:07] <eastbaynight> ?
[15:07] <rocket16_> theadmin: late?
[15:07] <bluebaron> anyone know what m1f1 means for cd read mode?
[15:07] <naadde> theadmin: so no problem at my?
[15:07] <psycho_oreos> darksider, your issue is with xorg I gather?
[15:07] <naadde> or is there something to do?
[15:07] <theadmin> naadde: Try replacing any occurence of "us.archive.ubuntu.com" in /etc/apt/sources.list with "ru.archive.ubuntu.com", then do sudo apt-get update
[15:07] <darksider> psycho_oreos, when i login it just goes straight back to login screen
[15:07] <theadmin> naadde: This will switch you to russian mirror. Not that you'll get russian packages, you will just download from russia :D
[15:07] <naadde> how do i do that theadmin without graphical interface
[15:08] <maginot> theadmin, with vi that can be done with :%s/us./ru./g =X
[15:08] <psycho_oreos> darksider, at exactly where? console or x?
[15:08] <darksider> psycho_oreos, and when i use CTRL_ALT_F1 thats the error it shows atfer login and before shell
[15:08] <eastbaynight> no one who can help?
[15:08] <naadde> theadmin: you can put it in my query :)
[15:08] <xomp> in soviet russia packages download you!
[15:08] <jyraia> someone can help-me changing from nautilus to thunarw
[15:08] <jyraia> ?
[15:08] <PapaGoose> theadmin: i think i found what i wanted: "sudo chrt -p --idle 0 <pid>"
[15:08] <darksider> psycho_oreos, uhm x i think..just during normal boot and login, i cant actually login
[15:08] <psycho_oreos> eastbaynight, I don't have experience with webcams
[15:08] <eastbaynight> nod
[15:08] <theadmin> naadde: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list then Ctrl+W and Ctrl+R, enter "us.archive.ubuntu.com" and then "ru.archive.ubuntu.com", ctrl+o
[15:09] <PapaGoose> never heard of chrt before today
[15:09] <psycho_oreos> darksider, if its not x you can easily see it as black and white.. black background and white words
[15:09] <rhineheart_m> hello.. please see this... http://pastebin.com/bgtAJS2d  All I wanted to accomplish is to get the full 600GB of space in my LVM... who can help me? I don't care of the 200 GB+ if I loss them..
[15:09] <darksider> psycho_oreos, when i load x then...and then try to login it wont. but if i goto shell and login it shows that error and then gives me a shell
[15:09] <pawel> da da da
[15:09] <pawel> da da da
[15:09] <pawel> daa da da da
[15:09] <bluebaron> anyone know what m1f1 means for cd read mode?
[15:10] <theadmin> pawel: stop this
[15:10] <psycho_oreos> !repeat | pawel
[15:10] <theadmin> psycho_oreos: That's not a question even
[15:10] <pawel> o czym gadacie
[15:10] <psycho_oreos> darksider, hmm its probably a messed up xinitrc I think
[15:10] <pawel> ??
[15:10] <bazhang> !pl | pawel
[15:10] <naadde>  theadmin then?
[15:10] <psycho_oreos> theadmin, still classified as repeating :)
[15:10] <darksider> psycho_oreos, any idea how to fix?
[15:10] <pawel> ok
[15:10] <naadde> what will I then write?
[15:11] <theadmin> naadde: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo tasksel install xubuntu-desktop
[15:11] <theadmin> naadde: Exit nano first though :P (Ctrl+X)
[15:11] <naadde> exitted it :)
[15:12] <frxstrem> is there a BitTorrent client for Ubuntu that is as good as µTorrent for Windows/Mac?
[15:12] <naadde> it asks if I want to upgrade three packages
[15:12] <theadmin> naadde: Yes
[15:12] <rocket16> theadmin: I did not understand, late for what?
[15:12] <naadde> then it says "E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[15:12] <theadmin> rocket16: Excuse me?
[15:12] <theadmin> naadde: Huh. Okay. I'm out of ideas. If i could ssh to you maybe i could do it this way :P
[15:12] <darksider> psycho_oreos, you have any idea how i can fix or go about learning how to fix this issue?
[15:13] <airtonix> frxstrem, you mean you haven't tried transmission
[15:13] <rocket16> theadmin: You earlier said "You are late", I did not understand, can you please explain?
[15:13] <theadmin> rocket16: Well, you said something about some spammer or something but he left already
[15:13] <frxstrem> airtonix: I don't think so (is that the built-in one for Ubuntu?)
[15:13] <naadde> theadmin: sorry I queried you
[15:13] <rocket16> theadmin: I see, :D
[15:13] <psycho_oreos> darksider, not really, I mean you also have encrypted partitions which may complicate the issue a bit more.. but I'd check .xinitrc which is under your $user directory and try to trace back what you did last
[15:13] <naadde> check it ^^
[15:13] <airtonix> frxstrem, yes its the default bit-torrent client. you also have deluge
[15:13] <haavaros> Hm, I'm formatting a new disk in fdisk. To specify partition size, do I calculate the ending cylinder by dividing partition size with cylinder size, or is there a simpler way?
[15:14] <frxstrem> airtonix: well, are they as good as µTorrent, with all it's features
[15:14] <frxstrem> cause that's what I want
[15:14] <blip-> hi, if anyone is interested in helping out with an rsync-based backup dilema I have.   Here's a forum question I just posted: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9098029
[15:14] <darksider> psycho_oreos, my friend was messing about yesterdday trying to learn some shell commands and he tried to sudo apt-get install xine-*
[15:14] <psycho_oreos> haavaros, you can use +Xm +Xg (where X is the number, and m for megabytes, g is for gigabytes)
[15:14] <airtonix> frxstrem, why? utorrent reports all your traffie to riaa now.
[15:14] <haavaros> psycho_oreos: thx
[15:14] <dsl558> lol
[15:15] <psycho_oreos> darksider, and that was it?
[15:15] <darksider> psycho_oreos, i stopped it when i noticed, but when i tried to remove xine-* it started trying to remove gedit, geany, amarok, and loads more
[15:15] <darksider> maybe it removed something important ?
[15:15] <frxstrem> airtonix: well, why should I really care?
[15:15] <Idlehead> hi everyone
[15:15] <psycho_oreos> darksider, looks like you may have a completely missing gnome :)
[15:15] <dsl558> riaa doesn't work in china
[15:15] <airtonix> frxstrem, why should i care?
[15:15] <darksider> =O
[15:15] <bazhang> !ot > dsl558
[15:15] <darksider> noooooooooooo
[15:15] <dsl558> nothing to worry about
[15:16]  * darksider likes his garden GNOMEs
[15:16] <frxstrem> airtonix: I haven't said that you should
[15:16] <dsl558> which chinese was cued by riaa?
[15:16] <airtonix> frxstrem, im also not really sure what features you think make utorrent awesome... please list them
[15:16] <bazhang> dsl558, please stop that
[15:16] <darksider> psycho_oreos, would it be worth a try hooking it up by ethernet and trying to install gnome over again ?
[15:16] <psycho_oreos> darksider, yeah it sounds like you have removed a hell lot of deps which are related to gnome bits and pieces.. you might be able to regain some via aptitude install ubuntu-desktop heh
[15:17] <airtonix> frxstrem, i've used utorrent, transmission & deluge a fair bit and i can't really see anything that makes them different from each other...
[15:17] <darksider> psycho_oreos, i will give it a try then reboot, and lket you know how she goes =)
[15:17] <psycho_oreos> darksider, that is more or less the only choice I believe more info maybe available in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:17] <darksider> psycho_oreos i will check that log just now 1st
[15:17]  * maginot aha, almost finishing his xchat modification =D 
[15:18] <Trashi> hi. i have a problem to login via ssh without password .. i did create ide_rsa and ide_rsa.pub with ssh-keygen. after this i copied pub to authorized_keys in /home/user/.ssh .... now i want to login via ssh, but he is still asking for a password. is there someone who can help me?
[15:18] <airtonix> !info deluge
[15:18] <airtonix> !info transmission
[15:18] <airtonix> !info rtorrent
[15:18] <theadmin> transmission is a huge meh, i mean seriously it's kinda like connecting forever like 5 minutes and only THEN it starts it
[15:19] <Pici> !msgthebot
[15:19] <naadde> theadmin: now it says E: Malformed line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[15:19] <darksider> psycho_oreos, what exactly should i be looking for? this is unusual teritory for me
[15:19] <darksider> territory*
[15:19] <theadmin> naadde: wha... uh... okay, I'm confused. I'll give you my sources.list, k?
[15:20] <naadde> sure
[15:20] <psycho_oreos> darksider, pastebin (not paste) your log, I'll check
[15:20] <darksider> uhm...
[15:20] <darksider> ok i will need to try hooking upto ethernet first
[15:20] <darksider> gimme two mins plz
[15:20] <psycho_oreos> darksider, or you can do sneakernet setup
[15:20] <darksider> and thanks psycho_oreos <3
[15:20] <darksider> sneakernet ?
[15:21] <maginot> naadde, probably you pasted something wrong... take a look at line 7
[15:21] <psycho_oreos> darksider, floppy disk in hand, copy data from one computer and move it across by foot :)
[15:21] <darksider> psycho_oreos, lol..no floppy drive just optical
[15:22] <psycho_oreos> similar logic applies with zips, blank cd/dvd, usb flash drives, etc
[15:22] <darksider> hmm how do i burn to a disk from a shell o.O ?
[15:22] <theadmin> darksider: There is a proggy called 'cdrecord'
[15:23] <psycho_oreos> I don't think that will work when the computer doesn't have network/internet access lol
[15:23] <maginot> theadmin, don't you like transmission? works great for me
[15:23] <rocket16> Nautilus takes about 97 MB RAM. Can it be reduced?  (I don't want to switch to OpenBox from Metacity though)
[15:23] <darksider> there seems to be proggys missing
[15:23] <darksider> lots of them
[15:23] <maginot> rocket16, you could install other browser ...
[15:23] <darksider> brasero amarok gedit geany to name a few
[15:24] <psycho_oreos> darksider, which was what happened when you issued aptitude remove or similar :)
[15:24] <Insomniaque> Hey
[15:24] <rocket16> maginot: Yes, but Nautilus is flexible, Thunar does not suite me, :)
[15:24] <darksider> psycho_oreos, yeah...you think i should try hooking upto ethy first and then trying to get the x gui back ?
[15:24] <maginot> rocket16, take a look at xfe, "apt-get install xfe"
[15:25] <Insomniaque> So I just broke my current linux: Backtrack by trying to get Nautilus on KDE (which worked, until I wanted to go back to Konqueror.) So I'm now trying to switch to Ubuntu, with command line access and an external harddrive.
[15:25] <rocket16> maginot: Yes, but Xfce is not so nice, is it?
[15:25] <darksider> psycho_oreos, i might just have a backup list of all the packages i had installed at the point in time yesterday,...
[15:25] <bazhang> Insomniaque, bt4?
[15:25] <Insomniaque> I'm currently downloading the ubuntu iso to ~ and I just googled how to burn the ISO to an external hdd
[15:25] <Insomniaque> Yes, bazhang
[15:25] <maginot> rocket16, you don't need xfce, just xfe... its a file manager
[15:25] <psycho_oreos> darksider, yes but if you want extra sense of security, I'd recommend you to backup any necessary data before proceeding
[15:25] <Insomniaque> I got sick of the KDE mixed with Gnome and some bugs within it (not to mention outdated repos.)
[15:25] <FallenSparrow> hey guyws i am hainvg some serious issues with dual booting with ssd.
[15:25] <rocket16> maginot: Oh, I see
[15:25] <darksider> psycho_oreos, all my stuff is already backed up >_<
[15:25] <FallenSparrow> anyone able to help
[15:26] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: SSD has nothing to do with it
[15:26] <darksider> psycho_oreos, i will brb..gonna give it a show of hooking upto ethy
[15:26] <nicola> ciao
[15:26] <Insomniaque> So, I found this: http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Install_from_USB_drive And I'm wondering what ramdisk_size is, seeing as it says it may need to be adjusted.
[15:26] <bazhang> Insomniaque, you could also burn to usb flash key
[15:26] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: they are treated the same as normal disks
[15:26] <FallenSparrow> i already have a dual boot on a patter disk
[15:26] <psycho_oreos> darksider, ok good, just in case :)
[15:26] <hydester> on jaunty, where do i put a script to be called when the laptop goes between AC power and battery?
[15:26] <maginot> !it | nicola
[15:26] <FallenSparrow> and i know i have issues with drive geometery
[15:26] <Insomniaque> bazhang: I have no USB flash drive large enough (not even sure I have one smaller for that matter,) however, my external hdd is a usb drive, so I figured it'd be the same pretty much
[15:26] <Insomniaque> ?
[15:27] <haavaros> On a 1TB backup disk, should I use ext3 or 4, or does it not matter?
[15:27] <ikonia> haavaros: doesn't matter
[15:27] <haavaros> k txh
[15:27] <FallenSparrow> this is my issue, i have windows 7 and ubuntu on wd 1tb.  i have added ssd, 60gb, i want to have my dual boot onthe ssd instead. and have my windows data (onkly abotu 100gb and my home partition on ssd
[15:27] <tigerplug292> hi
[15:27] <bazhang> haavaros, to be shared with windows or not
[15:27] <tigerplug292> anyone know where I can find Ubuntu for Itanium based servers? - Can't find it on the site at all
[15:27] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: so what's teh issue with it
[15:27] <haavaros> bazhang: only linux devices
[15:27] <ikonia> tigerplug292: no port
[15:27] <Insomniaque> Also, I have one other question besides the ramdisk_size, and that is: If I go through the tutorial on the wiki that I just linked (I'm doing the second one, the one which you install the bootloader and then copy the files), I will NOT lose any directories already on the drive, correct?
[15:27] <Insomniaque> And lastly, how can I check what format my external is?
[15:28] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, there's two ways to go about on it, one is to use unetbootin and hope that it'll work or use something like grub4dos
[15:28] <tigerplug292> ikonia: thanks :)
[15:28] <haavaros> bazhang: or maybe not ... I'm probably getting a winputer this summer, so I'll probably go for fat32
[15:28] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, which tutorial?
[15:29] <Insomniaque> Hmm... on the wiki it says as long as the hard drive is FAT16, I should be able to just run syslinux /dev/sda1 and copy the files over along with the bootloader config file.
[15:29] <FallenSparrow> well i am a bit daunted by the whole issue with geometery but also when i install the ssd windows seven it effects the grub which i dont underdstand hwo that is possible basically when i install windows  on ssd, i cant no longer access my ubuntu partition on the WD, grubb never loads, just the windows  boot manager.asking me which win 7 to boot
[15:29] <Insomniaque> One sec, psycho_oreos
[15:29] <maginot> ikonia, doesn't x64 works on itanium servers ?
[15:29] <Insomniaque> http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Install_from_USB_drive#The_Slow_Method
[15:30] <rdg> if I want to set global environment variables for my users, I should just edit /etc/profile right?
[15:30] <chao06> is there any way I can have nm-applet, gnome-volume-control-applet and gnome-power-manager independent of the notification area?
[15:30] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, hmm never tried those, I only used unetbootin, failing that I'd setup grub4dos and make it boot iso off that
[15:30] <FallenSparrow> now right now i am trying to install linux on the ssd, that i have already instaled win 7 to, and 9.10 does nto see teh ssd
[15:30] <Insomniaque> A friend of mine on MSN just told me that if my external is more than 80GB it's guaranteed NTFS?
[15:30] <Insomniaque> Let me take a look at unetbootin
[15:30] <ikonia> maginot: no
[15:31] <ZykoticK9> chao06, are you using Lucid?
[15:31] <Zider> Insomniaque: I doubt it's guaranteed ntfs but recommended
[15:31] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, if you're using windows to format, it'll be in NTFS which won't work well with these other tools
[15:31] <chao06> ZykoticK9: no, karmic...
[15:31] <ZykoticK9> chao06, ok - just checking.
[15:31] <Insomniaque> Well it came pre-formatted, so I'd assume NTFS.
[15:31] <Insomniaque> It's a WesternDigital.
[15:32] <FallenSparrow> also i am curious with the wawy linux works, if i have my home partition on the wd, does that mean my apps will not receive the benifits of an ssd
[15:32] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, plug it in and check
[15:32] <Trek> Insomniaque: nah, its most likely a FAT32 or something
[15:32] <maginot> ikonia, interesting ... but if you compile ia64 support on kernel, will 32/64 bits application still work?
[15:32] <Trek> Insomniaque: how big a drive?
[15:32] <Insomniaque> psycho_oreos: It's plugged in, how can I check via command line?
[15:32] <Insomniaque> Trek: 500gb
[15:32] <rdg> Insomniaque: the limit for FAT32is theoretically 8TB
[15:32] <chao06> ZykoticK9: is this a new feature in lucid?
[15:32] <Insomniaque> Oh really?
[15:32] <psycho_oreos> FallenSparrow, what is wd? western digital? as in a normal hard disk?
[15:32] <ZykoticK9> chao06, no it's REALLY locked down
[15:32] <Trek> maginot: why'd you ctcp version me?
[15:32] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, which OS are you on?
[15:32] <FallenSparrow> yes i am sorry normal platter 1tb driive
[15:32] <rdg> Insomniaque: just do a   mount /dev/whatever /mnt/external and see if mount figures it out
[15:32] <hafidz> hello.iwhen i open application>ubuntu software center. it does try to load but few seconds later it closed. i now cannot use software center. yesterday i can still use it. can someone answer me how to make it working again? I don't want to reinstall ubuntu as it is a last chance. anyone know how to fix this bug?
[15:33] <ikonia> mneptok: ix64 is totally different than x86/x86_^4
[15:33] <maginot> Trek, it something of my script.. it tries to see what version those speaking have
[15:33] <Insomniaque> Right now, I'm using a limited WIndows XP that I don't own. Can't really use it besides web.
[15:33] <rdg> or run parted on the drive
[15:33] <chao06> ZykoticK9: oh my... is that for the purposes of the beta, or is it that way for good?
[15:33] <psycho_oreos> FallenSparrow, well no, most applications won't be residing in /home directory for that matter
[15:33] <FallenSparrow> basically i want my same setup but instead of haivng seperate partitions for data and os like i have now,k i want seperate drives.
[15:33] <maginot> Trek, I think I'm going to take this off
[15:33] <Trek> maginot: may I PM you?
[15:33] <hafidz> :(
[15:33] <Insomniaque> I'm trying to do everything from my linux PC which currently only has command line access.
[15:33] <maginot> Trek, ok
[15:33] <FallenSparrow> because apps reside in /usr/local correct?
[15:33] <rdg> Insomniaque: WindowsXP probably won't let you format it over 32GB, built in limitation of XP format tool
[15:33] <ZykoticK9> chao06, sorry man, i can't (don't wish) to discuss any Lucid issues here.
[15:33] <hafidz> my software center is auto close.anyone having this prob before?
[15:33] <Insomniaque> Looking at unetbootin, they say it works best for windows, but they have a linux version. Does the linux version work via command line or does it need the GUI?
[15:33] <Insomniaque> If it needs the GUI, that's a problem for me...
[15:33] <h00k> !lucid
[15:33] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, it needs GUI
[15:34] <Trek> Insomniaque, it uses GUI
[15:34] <rdg> Insomniaque: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463  (Limitations of the FAT32 File System in Windows XP)
[15:34] <Trek> :P
[15:34] <Insomniaque> I had it back before my Windows 7 laptop's LED exploded and shorted stuff out. rdg
[15:34] <Zider> ouch
[15:34] <psycho_oreos> FallenSparrow, no they reside in various places.. /bin /usr/bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin, etc
[15:34] <FallenSparrow> but not in /home correct, that is only config files and what not.
[15:34] <MauL^> where is the networking gui in ubuntu ?
[15:35] <MauL^> where I can set my dns and so on
[15:35] <Insomniaque> What was the second option instead of unetbootin?
[15:35] <psycho_oreos> FallenSparrow, config files are normally in /etc.. you really need to learn linux filesystem, google and read about it
[15:35] <arvind_khadri> MauL^, you can set it in the panel, there would be two computers next to time
[15:35] <rdg> Insomniaque: if you fire up fdisk to partition it it'll read the filesystem code of the partition and tell you what it is
[15:35] <ZykoticK9> MauL^, nm-applet
[15:35] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, grub4dos (which will never work on ntfs partition I bet)
[15:35] <brummbaer> Maul, usually in the panel, or alternatively in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:35] <Insomniaque> Hmm...
[15:35] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, correction it might, with some technicalities
[15:35] <Insomniaque> Well, if worst came to worst, I could add a partition to my external and boot off that, correct?
[15:35] <FallenSparrow> well when i go into /home adn view hidden i have a . folderr for each app.  .pidgen .firefox i assumed that is where teh configs and settigns wheere
[15:36] <rocket16> Ah! I installed OpenBox! How fast it is!
[15:36] <Insomniaque> With some slight modification to the .cfg file
[15:36] <hafidz> anyone? i need advise..regarding my prob on software center
[15:36] <Trek> if you use the terminal to configure the partitions, Insomniaque, you can put FAT32 on there, but you get the filesize limit of about 4GB
[15:36] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, I don't think its that simple if I read you correctly
[15:36] <arvind_khadri> hafidz, ask
[15:36] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, no its not simply the .cfg file.. it comes down to messing with lace.com file
[15:36] <rdg> Insomniaque: what are you trying to do with this HD?
[15:36] <hafidz> when i open application>ubuntu software center. it does try to load but few seconds later it closed. i now cannot use software center. yesterday i can still use it. can someone answer me how to make it working again? I don't want to reinstall ubuntu as it is a last chance. anyone know how to fix this bug?
[15:37] <Insomniaque> Well, I don't plan on actually installing Ubuntu on the external.
[15:37] <Trek> Insomniaque: booting off your external is a BIOS setting :P
[15:37] <frenzy1> i am suffering from a bug where gvim writes permissions to ownere root and 700 for any edits over gvfs. this doesn't happen over sshfs. how can i replace gvfs with sshfs so that nautilus uses it and nothing breaks
[15:37] <MauL^> ubuntu replies very slowly to the other computers on my network.. they wait for more than 10 seconds for each web request.. and I see on the server log that the request is not coming for seconds.. why could it be ?
[15:37] <Insomniaque> Rather, I want the iso to install it.
[15:37] <Trek> MauL^ bad config?
[15:37] <Insomniaque> Trek: Indeed, but I'm talking about the bootloader on the HD. ;)
[15:37] <FallenSparrow> i basically jsut got linux to see the ssd, buyy pulling out the WD drive, but now it says thhere is no OS.  do i just need to boot into live CD adn create my linux partition BEFORE i try to install linux.
[15:37] <MauL^> maybe that other computers can reach very difficulty to my desktop..
[15:37] <Insomniaque> My BIOS allows me to boot from HD via boot menu.
[15:37] <MauL^> Trek, where should I look for ?
[15:37] <Trek> Insomniaque: nah, the boot loader is default installed to the primary partition the system usually boots to
[15:37] <hafidz> hmm
[15:37] <Trek> NauL^ don't know, i'd have to look at packet flow first...
[15:38] <Trek> MauL^ don't know, i'd have to look at packet flow first...
[15:38] <Insomniaque> Trek: I'm looking at the syslinux.cfg file from http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Install_from_USB_drive#The_Slow_Method
[15:38] <psycho_oreos> FallenSparrow, no you shouldn't but you only had single boot on that computer? and what about 1TB? no OS?
[15:38] <Insomniaque> And it says to boot to /dev/sda1, and I'm not sure that would be the name of the partition if I re-partitioned my drive.
[15:38] <MauL^> Trek, but it seems like the request is coming very late.. there is no error on the server
[15:38] <MauL^> somehow, ubuntu is not appearant on the network
[15:39] <maginot> MauL^, does you use any firewall on you ubuntu box (ufw, iptables) ?
[15:39] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, it would work a lot better if you were to be running linux via livecd, forget about windows, its getting far too complex
[15:39] <Trek> Insomniaque: i agree, you could botch your system, so use a livecd
[15:39] <haavaros> When I'm typing 'sudo mkfs -t fat32 /dev/sdb1' I get 'mksfs.fat32: No such file or directory'. What does that mean?
[15:39] <FallenSparrow> no i currecntly have dual boot win7 and 9.10 on hard disk.  i want to go to ssd and use hard disk as storage for both OSS.  i dont realy have room to back up my home partition so i am trying to do thsi without deleting my currecnt linnux partitionas well but i have to i understand
[15:39] <hafidz> hmmm
[15:39] <MauL^> magical, yes
[15:40] <darksider`> psycho_oreos, i will tll you this- my friend is NOT getting near my server when its got a HD fited!!!
[15:40] <psycho_oreos> haavaros, mksfs.fat32 is not a valid binary/application name
[15:40] <Insomniaque> psycho_oreos, Trek: I have no Windows system that I can burn from, and the CD drive along with various other parts of my linux desktop is shot.
[15:40] <hafidz> sofware center is autoclose..i cant open sypnatic too
[15:40] <hafidz> :(
[15:40] <darksider`> psycho_oreos, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop reinstalled LOADS of stuff and now it workies >_<
[15:40] <FallenSparrow> and btw 20gb is plenty for 9.10 install correct.with home on separate drive
[15:40] <Insomniaque> See, I'm 14 years old, I'm on my mom's laptop, and I have no money to fix the desktop.
[15:40] <Trek> Insomniaque: then order a free CD, and wait for 6 weeks
[15:40] <maginot> haavaros, mkfs.msdos try with that
[15:40] <Insomniaque> And my Windows 7 laptop asploded. =P
[15:40] <theadmin> maginot: wha wtf is that thing? msdos is not a filesystem
[15:40] <Insomniaque> Trek: >_>
[15:41] <psycho_oreos> darksider`, well lol he didn't exactly screw up your setup, he just tried to install a program, you got antsy over it, removed it and there goes your gnome :)
[15:41] <maginot> theadmin, yeah, right, mkfs.vfat =X
[15:41] <maginot> haavaros, ^
[15:41] <Trek> Insomniaque: sounds like you need to have your mom pay to fix your systems
[15:41] <psycho_oreos> FallenSparrow, generally yes
[15:41] <darksider`> psycho_oreos, i felt better blaming him =(
[15:41] <maginot> theadmin, but I do have mkfs.msdos here... O.o
[15:41] <darksider`> psycho_oreos, lets just pretend he did it
[15:41] <Insomniaque> Trek: Haha, there's no way she'd pay for anything for me. Took me 2 years to save up for my laptop.
[15:41] <darksider`> psycho_oreos, =D
[15:41] <Insomniaque> The bigger question is can the desktop be reasonably fixed.
[15:41] <theadmin> maginot: Maybe that's what it calls fat16? %)
[15:41] <haavaros> uh. so like this: 'mkfs.vfat =X <device>'?
[15:41] <Insomniaque> I couldn't find the problem with it after a year of trying to figure it out.
[15:41] <Trek> Insomniaque: a new CD burner costs $30 on newegg (USA)
[15:41] <psycho_oreos> darksider`, evil man, he could have done something more nasty but oh well
[15:42] <alabd> Good day all , Persian has 4 chars more than arabic language , What should be used as key symbol for those 4 chars ? ubuntu that uses gnome has not problem with those 4 chars but in SHR that uses e17 there is problem and don't now what should be used ?
[15:42] <darksider`> psycho_oreos, thanks for all your help man, im gonna come back inna minute, just after i get my new lappy connected
[15:42] <Insomniaque> Trek: I don't think the CD burner is broken.
[15:42] <haavaros> maginot: uh. so like this: 'mkfs.vfat =X <device>'?
[15:42] <Insomniaque> SOmething else is, causing the CD burner to not work.
[15:42] <maginot> theadmin, maybe, that is why I corrected to mkfs.vfat =D
[15:42] <Insomniaque> =P
[15:42] <maginot> haavaros, yes... mkfs.vfat device
[15:42] <Insomniaque> Have my USB drives don't work, my PC thinks my proc is 1GHz when it's 2
[15:42] <Insomniaque> Half*
[15:42] <Trek> *shrugs* Insomniaque: you're trying to work with high-complexity stuff that I wouldn't attempt, and probably with faulty hardware
[15:42] <MauL^> where should I look if other computers on the same network have difficulties on making request to my ubuntu box
[15:43] <totimkopf> hmm, for some strange reason i´m unable to use dead keys, i´m trying to use accented spanish characters, i´m using the USA one and i´ve used the spanish one
[15:43] <Trek> Insomniaque: best recommendation: have your mom take the systems to a tech, there's not much more we can do to help you here
[15:43] <darksider> psycho_oreos,  thanxmuch dude
[15:43] <Dekko> Hello, is it possible to upgrade GNOME to 2.30 on Jaunty?
[15:43] <psycho_oreos> darksider, no worries
[15:43] <Insomniaque> Trek: I could take it to the tech myself, but the computer isn't worth it.
[15:43] <maginot> MauL^, well, try first disabling your firewall to see if gets better
[15:43] <Insomniaque> I'll see if I can just get a CD and burn it from my mom's laptop.
[15:43] <darksider> psycho_oreos, i owe you bigtime. if i knew more about how ubuntu works then i could probably figure silly stuff like that out..but without you id still be using my old lappy again -.-
[15:43] <Insomniaque> Though she thinks I put keyloggers and spyware on her computer when I'm fixing it. =P
[15:43] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, then its not worth installing ubuntu on it, when its playing up half the time
[15:44] <Insomniaque> Not to mention, I got a ton of segfaults the other day, ran memtest 86+ and got over 14million erros, ran it a second time and got no errors.
[15:44] <darksider> psycho_oreos, if you ever need some free hosting or an email addy then gimme a shout =)#
[15:44] <geekphreak> Insomniaque: lol why would you do that :)
[15:44] <chao06> Insomniaque: maybe try a different distro... i've had computers that have completely different problems with different distros...
[15:44] <obscurant1st> i installed network-manager and network-manager-gnome, but there is no icon for it in my notification area?
[15:44] <psycho_oreos> darksider, heh we all had to start from somewhere :)
[15:44] <Trek> obscurant1st: is it not loading on boot?
[15:44] <darksider> psycho_oreos, just waiting on my 1.5TB HD coming in for my server =)
[15:44] <Insomniaque> chao06: You should have seen it on Windows. -_-'
[15:44] <Insomniaque> Linux Mint worked, Backtrack sucks, I want Ubuntu. =P
[15:44] <chao06> Insomniaque: yeah, like windows ever works lol
[15:44] <MauL^> magical, I did but no change
[15:44] <Zider> darksider: aww, I want one too!
[15:45] <darksider> psycho_oreos,  why cant nmore people be like you and understand when theres a problem beyond my expertise ? theres alot of ppl that just get angry and troll till you get out of the room >_<
[15:45] <Insomniaque> chao06: Haha, my comptuer would freeze when I tried to do anything with a .msc, (and frozen at any other point too.)
[15:45] <geekphreak> window is not that bad :)
[15:45] <psycho_oreos> darksider, rsyncing various (sorted now) stuff from ~6TB boxen (xubuntu) to my ~3TB boxen (arch linux)
[15:45] <obscurant1st> Trek, its getting connected automatically, but there is no icon.
[15:45] <FallenSparrow> also with 4gb ram and ssd there is no need for swap correct, nto for basic computing at least
[15:45] <Dekko> c'mon people, can I upgrade GNOME on Jaunty?
[15:45] <darksider> Ziber, wanna see it? www.swedger.com/server.php
[15:45] <darksider> psycho_oreos, ah. very nice (borat)
[15:45] <chao06> Insomniaque: have you tried any non-Debian based distros?
[15:45] <maginot> MauL^, you're addressing your answers to other people...
[15:45] <wazzaaaaa> problem , i have a dual boot laptop with ubuntu and xp , now i wish to remove my xp and use that partioned space as another linux(ubuntu) partion ext3 , and use vitualbox for win xp
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> FallenSparrow:  its proberly best to make at least a 512mb swap partition.
[15:45] <Trek> obscurant1st: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or Xubuntu?
[15:45] <FallenSparrow> you can upgrade to the newest desktop enviorment
[15:45] <obscurant1st> Trek, Ubuntu
[15:46] <Insomniaque> chao06: Thought about trying Gentoo, Mandriva or Arch.
[15:46] <Insomniaque> But I'm not sure.
[15:46] <Trek> obscurant1st: i'm not sure why it shouldn't load an icon... *shrugs*
[15:46] <Trek> you might have to ask others
[15:46] <Insomniaque> Mandriva annoyed me since it became... not open-source or something?
[15:46] <geekphreak> wazzaaaaa:  good luck
[15:46] <psycho_oreos> darksider, well linux is a very vast platform to work with, theres far too many areas and categories.. so help isn't always available, and then there's helpers that can get annoyed over time :)
[15:46] <Zider> darksider: must be hard to fit drives in that small thing
[15:46] <wazzaaaaa> geekphreak , thanks , looking for help tho ;)
[15:46] <Insomniaque> I remember there was something weird about it. Arch sounds interesting and my friend swears by it (and it's ability to install from git repos.)
[15:46] <Dekko> Insomniaque: I have installed Arch on a secondary computer and considering migrating to it on my primary setup too...
[15:46] <obscurant1st> actually i had a problem with wicd, so i installed this, now its also not coming
[15:46] <theadmin> what... the... heck. Ubuntu won't let me delete a file in my home directory o_O
[15:46] <geekphreak> wazzaaaaa:  anytime :)
[15:46] <Insomniaque> Gentoo sounds neat too, but I don't know anything about it.
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> Insomniaque:  i find that once you learn linux basics and fundamentals.. the distrtos dont really matter that much.. perferance becomes about what little things the distro offers.
[15:47] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, its not recommended for beginners
[15:47] <Curly_Q> Just curious does anyone here know if there is a software or program that acts like Facebook or anything in that vein with Ubuntu?
[15:47] <obscurant1st> Trek, is there a way to bring up the interface?
[15:47] <chao06> Insomniaque: arch is very nice if you can get it to work right... haven't tried gentoo... and i've been thoroughly unhappy with any rpm distro i've tried
[15:47] <geekphreak> obscurant1st:  what happen when you tpe nm-applet ?
[15:47] <darksider> Zider, aparently (the guy tels me AFTER i pay for it) its not made for internal opticals
[15:47] <Insomniaque> psycho_oreos: Gentoo? I know.
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> Insomniaque:  it all depends on your needs as to what ones to try.
[15:47] <obscurant1st> geekphreak, let me try'
[15:47] <Dekko> Insomniaque: arch needs some dedication to install and run but gentoo I think is worse as you have to compile everything from scratch there.
[15:47] <ZykoticK9> FallenSparrow, is your worried about your SSD drive, you can probably get away with only 4GB RAM without swap (I've used 2GB with no swap on my old EEE), if you have an actual HD (vs SSD), could you just put swap on it?  Best of luck, wish i had SSD on my system.
[15:47] <Insomniaque> Dr_Willis: I agree completely, backtrack was just screwy imo.
[15:47] <from_brazil> hi friends, I'm trying to install skype in ubuntu 8.04 32bits but it seems doesn't exists a installation package for this ubuntu version.. can anyone help?
[15:47] <darksider> Zider, he said to get an external but im gonna buy a skinny drive and fit it myself >_< maybe
[15:47] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, no both arch and gentoo, I've got arch on one box and tried gentoo every so often
[15:47] <Insomniaque> Repos out-dated (so i switched them to ubuntus, still messed up.)
[15:47] <alabd> in SHR with e17 we have /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Persian.kbd file where is this file for gnome ?
[15:47] <grodzilla> Dekko: gentoo roX :D
[15:47] <Zider> darksider: rack systems rarely have opticals
[15:47] <obscurant1st> geekphreak, it shows a warning and it loaded
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> Insomniaque:  Backtrack has a very specific focus. and 'beginners' often use it when they really shouldent be.
[15:47] <darksider> psycho_oreos, i know..anyways man thx much. appreciated <3
[15:47] <geekphreak> from_brazil: it is on skype site, i saw it :)
[15:48] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, backtrack is actually for pentesters mainly
[15:48] <geekphreak> obscurant1st: whats the message?
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> Insomniaque:  go to the distrowatch.com web site and explore the ones out.
[15:48] <obscurant1st> ** (nm-applet:2861): WARNING **: Invalid connection /system/networking/connections/1: 'NMSettingWireless' / 'ssid' invalid: 2
[15:48] <Insomniaque> psycho_oreos: Yeah, I've had linux for a couple years, and I prefer it over Windows except for the fact that it lacks so many programs made for WIndows
[15:48] <psycho_oreos> darksider, no worries :)
[15:48] <darksider> Zider, yeah i know... i might just install ubuntu server from a temp IDE optical then unplug it
[15:48] <Dekko> grodzilla: I am sure it does, but I think Arch is just as difficult to use and setup as I like it to be.
[15:48] <Insomniaque> psycho_oreos: I know. I love it for that. =P
[15:48] <Zider> darksider: I have a "normal" pc case with 6 or so drives as server
[15:48] <obscurant1st> geekphreak, ^^
[15:48] <from_brazil> geekphreak: what's in skype site??
[15:48] <geekphreak> obscurant1st: wicd installed?
[15:48] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, mmhmm ._.
[15:48] <darksider> Zider, ah... i thought about that but all my bits are fubar
[15:48] <geekphreak> from_brazil:  yes on skype site
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> Insomniaque:  i often find the opposite.. I have programs for linux.. that i would like in windows. :)
[15:48] <Insomniaque> Haha
[15:48] <Insomniaque> One sec.
[15:48] <grodzilla> Dekko: it's true ^^
[15:48] <Dekko> But can someone tell me if it is possible to upgrade GNOME to 2.30 on Jaunty?
[15:49] <maginot> Dr_Willis, agreed
[15:49] <Insomniaque> Dr_Willis: It works both ways.
[15:49] <from_brazil> geekphreak: what stuff is in skype site??
[15:49] <FallenSparrow> also it says no root file system when selecting my newly made ext4 partition on ssd.  how do i fix this,  it sayts correct from partitioning menu
[15:49] <Zider> darksider: it's been upgraded a number of times since I got it, now it's at ~5TB :)
[15:49] <Insomniaque> Anyone heard of longene?
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> Dekko:  well theres always the source.. or unoffical ppa/repos..
[15:49] <darksider> =O awesome
[15:49] <geekphreak> from_brazil:  skype for 32 bit system ubuntu 8 .04
[15:49] <maginot> from_brazil, the ubuntu package you want ... for 8.04
[15:49] <Dekko> Dr_willis - where do I find these unofficial PPA's for Gnome 2.30?
[15:49] <FallenSparrow> dekko have you tried yet
[15:49] <psycho_oreos> FallenSparrow, sounds like missing mount point
[15:49] <Insomniaque> My friend pointed me to it the other day, apparently a pathced linux kernel mixing some Windows and Wine source-code for .exe execution?
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> Dekko:  i would have to point to google.
[15:49] <darksider> i will be back in a bit- need to do my house cleaning and seech = left it til now because my lappy's health is more important
[15:49] <obscurant1st> geekphreak, I uninstalled it, i mean wicd,
[15:49] <FallenSparrow> mountn point shoudl just be "/" correct
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> Dekko:  im testing 10.04 on all my box's now.
[15:50] <from_brazil> geekphreak: well, in downloads page I just see for ubuntu 8.10
[15:50] <from_brazil> can't you see?
[15:50] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, there's plenty of those
[15:50] <geekphreak> obscurant1st: make sure network manager is in services starting up
[15:50] <psycho_oreos> FallenSparrow, yes
[15:50] <Insomniaque> psycho_oreos: How many of them work better than Wine?
[15:50] <obscurant1st> Geekthras, how can i check that??
[15:50] <geekphreak> from_brazil: hold on let me get it
[15:50] <from_brazil> geekphreak: ok!
[15:50] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, I don't bother trying those, wine doesn't work with every windows app
[15:51] <Dekko> Dr_Willis I don't want to have to clean install because I have configured my setup the way I want it ....
[15:51] <Insomniaque> psycho_oreos: In my opinion, Wine only works for a select few programs. My friend said Longene worked better, so I was going to try it but then I got busy with other stuff.
[15:51] <bobenth> !test
[15:51] <bobenth> !testing
[15:51] <obscurant1st> geekphreak, how can i do it?
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> Dekko:  this is when you learn how to backup/restore config files I guess.. or go track down some ppa's that may or may not work  that great.
[15:52] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, never heard of longene, but I know there's two commercial versions of wine, one is codeweavers, the other is cedega
[15:52] <frenzy1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/227808 how can i replace gvfs with sshfs? will simply installing sshfs and uninstalling gvfs break anything? will nautilus use sshfs?
[15:52] <hafidz> already solved the prob
[15:52] <hafidz> yeaahh
[15:52] <maginot> from_brazil, take a look: http://divyad.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/install-skype-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-configure-sound/
[15:52] <Insomniaque> psycho_oreos: One second and I can try to find longene.
[15:52] <from_brazil> geekphreak: ok, let me see..
[15:52] <Insomniaque> psycho_oreos: http://sourceforge.net/projects/longene/
[15:52] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, found it
[15:52] <theadmin> frenzy1: gvfs is the Gnome Virtual Filesystem, used only in the GNOME desktop. If you don't use GNOME, you can safely remove it
[15:52] <bobenth> (Does anyone knows if there is a channel about the ubuntu beta please? )
[15:52] <alabd> -ChanServ- Yo
[15:53] <theadmin> bobenth: #ubuntu+1
[15:53] <haavaros> Which options should I add in fstab for a shared disk with full access for all users?
[15:53] <geekphreak> from_brazil: yep they changed it, let me get another link :)
[15:53] <bobenth> Thank you so much theadmin ! <3
[15:53] <from_brazil> geekphreak: :(
[15:53] <frenzy1> theadmin: i do use gnome.
[15:53] <FallenSparrow> am i able to have grub see my win 7 on both ssd and hd as well as the linux on both  untill i am able to migrate data
[15:54] <rash502> hi all
[15:54] <chao06> haavaros: i know the option 'users' will allow anyone to mount and umount it, not sure about rw
[15:54] <theadmin> frenzy1: You can't remove gvfs then
[15:54] <rash502> i have problem in lemonpos
[15:54] <Curly_Q> Theadmin do you have any knowledge of any program that will act like Face Book or something like that?
[15:54] <rash502> any help
[15:54] <rash502> please
[15:55] <maginot> frenzy1, why would you like something like that ?
[15:55] <theadmin> Curly_Q: Nope. Why the heck did you choose me of 1496 people?
[15:55] <Insomniaque> rash502: We can't help if we don't know what the problem is.
[15:55] <maginot> !ask | rash502
[15:55] <frenzy1> maginot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/227808
[15:55] <theadmin> ubottu is lagging o_O
[15:55] <Curly_Q> Theadmin, you sounded like a person who knows what you are talking about.
[15:55] <theadmin> Curly_Q: Doesn't mean i know everything though :D
[15:56] <from_brazil> geekphreak: I am downloading the source file..
[15:56] <rash502> i cant access the database from squeeze
[15:56] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: You're asking for a web application? There's tons of open source social networking scripts, just google it.
[15:56] <rash502> i can access from my sql
[15:56] <Curly_Q> I was just curious Theadmin. I hope you didn't get offended.
[15:56] <geekphreak> from_brazil:  ok, i am reading skupe forum, they have some info thee, want link?
[15:56] <theadmin> Curly_Q: Not at all
[15:56] <dmackdady> can anyone pls tell me if there is a Visual Basic ``like`` program for ubuntu??
[15:57] <rash502> i did all what the documentation asks
[15:57] <Insomniaque> dmackdady: Look at Qt with Qt Designer? It's C++ but it has a Designer like VB6 does.
[15:57] <Insomniaque> You won't find BASIC for Linux though, I don't think.
[15:57] <ruggero> best visualbasic "like" would be Python, imho
[15:57] <maginot> frenzy1, but if you are having problems why not just don't use it for that kind of operation and using other application? After all if you remove you will not be able to use it anyway
[15:57] <dmackdady> cool ty
[15:57] <from_brazil> geekphreak: I don't know.. your english it's better than mine
[15:57] <from_brazil> :/
[15:57] <geekphreak> from_brazil:  http://forum.skype.com/topic/199011-skype-for-ubuntu-8-04/
[15:57] <maginot> from_brazil, this will help you  http://divyad.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/install-skype-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-configure-sound/
[15:58] <Curly_Q> Thanks for that tip Insomniaque. I am building up a social network for a CISCO Networking Technology Academy. Just doing my homework here and there.   :)
[15:58] <Insomniaque> dmackdady: Though Qt is generally for KDE now that I think about it.
[15:58] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: Nice. =]
[15:58] <from_brazil> geekphreak: thanks! :)
[15:58] <Insomniaque> dmackdady: Not sure if there is a similar designer for GTK+
[15:58] <FallenSparrow> do i need to do all this alginingn stuff for the dual boot or just for linux in general on a ssd
[15:58] <dmackdady> oo i see
[15:59] <rash502> i cannot access the database from squeeze
[15:59] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: for the last time - ssd's are just disks, they do not need to be treated any different
[15:59] <Curly_Q> Insomniaque I received a $100,000.00 scholarship as an intern here. Lots of pressure on me to do lots of homework.
[15:59] <Insomniaque> dmackdady: Glade (http://glade.gnome.org/)
[15:59] <Pici> rash502: Are you running Ubuntu or Debian?
[15:59] <rash502> ubuntu
[15:59] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: Wow, that's awesome. =]
[15:59] <Pici> rash502: squeeze is Debian though.
[16:00] <FallenSparrow> so then what is all this i hear about aligning ssd to blcok and erase block size, and all this.  is that just for peak performance, also if so can these additions be done post instal
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> I think there is some new filesystems in the works that make use of some of the features of SSD"s or some how reduce wear on them. :)  but ive just seen a few bits of info on that topic at various sites
[16:00] <Insomniaque> It sucks having 768 / 368 kbps internet >_>
[16:00] <rash502> pici:it com with lemonepos
[16:00] <theadmin> Insomniaque: Mine is slower.
[16:00] <Insomniaque> theadmin: I'm sorry. x.x
[16:00] <Curly_Q> Thanks Insomniaque. I cannot tell you how much stuff I have to learn about CISCO and CCNA CCNP and CCIE. My day never ends.
[16:01] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: Haha, well, at some point I may have to do that. Thankfully I'm only in high school right now.
[16:01] <dsl558> don't enter a food chain when you are the last
[16:02] <dsl558> just open a new chain
[16:02] <bazhang> !ot
[16:02] <theadmin> dsl558: lolwut
[16:02] <rash502> pici:i can enter the database from mysql after entering the script but not from squeeze lemonpos
[16:02] <Insomniaque> theadmin: that's what i was thinking.
[16:03] <geekphreak> Curly_Q:  you can always teach us then :)
[16:03] <Pici> rash502: oh.  Squeeze is a program that is part of lemonpos...
[16:03] <rash502> pici:yes
[16:04] <LALFGM> Hello, on ubuntu 9.10 I cannect to the internet and it says established but it doesnot get signal.
[16:04]  * maginot out for lunch 
[16:04] <Curly_Q> Insomniaque, I received my Masters in Electrical Electronics and Electromechanical Engeneering years ago. I procured my A+ Certification along with passing the CCNA classes. Lots of research to go.
[16:04] <FallenSparrow> assume you are talking about wirelesss
[16:04] <CaptainTrek> !ot | Curly_Q
[16:04] <ikonia> !away > maginot
[16:04] <itnojc> electrical electronics?
[16:04] <bazhang> Curly_Q, please take offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:04] <itnojc> sounds stupid lol
[16:04] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: Lool, I'm more of a programming guy, so I'll be going more towards software engineering, but networking is always fun too. So I may have to get my CCNA, etc.
[16:05] <Pici> rash502: If you're running their scripts to create the database, you probably want to look at their support.  I've never used this program before.
[16:05] <maginot> ikonia, It is not an aways message, just said with /me =)
[16:05] <ikonia> maginot: then please don't
[16:05] <LALFGM> fallensparrow: yes
[16:05] <maginot> ikonia, and why is that if may some people who I'm talking need to know I'm not here anymore?
[16:05] <rash502> pici:i have with no joy
[16:05] <itnojc> can u see what i write
[16:05] <ikonia> maginot: because of the away message info / channel policy
[16:05] <ikonia> itnojc: sure
[16:06] <FallenSparrow> correct wpa/wep key
[16:06] <jenue> please help me on how to set environment variable in ubuntu. i'm having a hard time setting the JAVA_HOME
[16:06] <LALFGM> fallensparrow: yes
[16:06] <FallenSparrow> have you tried traceroute, adn pin
[16:06] <FallenSparrow> see if you can ping the router itself
[16:06] <ikonia> jenue: JAVA_HOME=where/you/want/to/set/it
[16:06] <maginot> ikonia, isn't an away message for god's sake, I'm just saying something... nevermind, I'm out anyway
[16:06] <LALFGM> fallensparrow: I have tried all of that
[16:06] <Insomniaque> jenue: http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles/030.html = VARIABLE=value
[16:06] <FallenSparrow> is this YOUR wireless connection
[16:06] <LALFGM> yes it is
[16:06] <ikonia> maginot: people don't need to hear it, you're telling people you're away, it's an away message
[16:06] <LALFGM> fallensparrow:yes it is
[16:07] <Insomniaque> ikonia, maginot: we're also in #ubuntu not #argue-about-away-messages
[16:07] <FallenSparrow> connect with wire, download all updates.  restart, see if that fixes issue, a lo of times my lap has an issue grabbing new networks until i reboot
[16:07] <ikonia> Insomniaque: I'm aware of that
[16:07] <Insomniaque> ikonia: /msg is a pretty neat tool then ;)
[16:07] <maginot> I'm too... not arguing any more =)
[16:07] <Curly_Q> CCNA is necessary Insomniaque but the A+ Certification is mandatory in this field. This is to everyone here on the channel because I teach classes in A+ and many companies will not hire you without the A+ cert.
[16:08] <LALFGM> fallensparrow: what updates i am running the latest version of ubuntu
[16:08] <Zider> <- has A+ and N+
[16:08] <bazhang> !ot > Curly_Q
[16:08] <ikonia> Zider: please stop
[16:08] <FallenSparrow> okok expalain exactly what is going on
[16:08] <ikonia> !offtopic | Zider
[16:08] <Insomniaque> Rawr! At 150KB/s my download of the 700mb file just failed. >_>
[16:08] <Insomniaque> "No route to host"
[16:08] <Insomniaque> rawr.
[16:08] <LALFGM> fallensparrow: may I pm you?
[16:08] <Zider> oh sorry, I thought I was in #ubuntu-offtopic :/
[16:09] <FallenSparrow> yes
[16:09] <jenue> ikonia: thanks. is the variable now permanent? coz i don't want to set again everytime i log in
[16:09] <Curly_Q> Thanks for the info Ubottu.
[16:09] <ikonia> jenue: set it in your .bash_profile or .bashrc
[16:10] <theadmin> or in .profile
[16:10] <ikonia> theadmin: no
[16:10] <theadmin> ikonia: Why not?
[16:10] <Insomniaque> Does anybody know if wget has an option to "continue" a cancelled / uncompleted download?
[16:10] <ikonia> theadmin: bash and dash to not parse that
[16:10] <theadmin> ikonia: It's parsed at log in to the desktop, not at bash start, yes
[16:10] <Trashi> hi guys. i did mount a ftp directory via curlftpfs ... but i cannot change or write files... if i connect with my  ftp client from my homepc it works fine .. who can help?
[16:11] <ikonia> theadmin: I'm not aware of it being parsed at all, but it could be
[16:11] <ikonia> theadmin: it's normally for Bourne or Korn shell
[16:11] <Curly_Q> Insomniaque, why not just try to re-install.
[16:11] <theadmin> Insomniaque: nope :( as far as i'm aware
[16:11] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: ?
[16:11] <theadmin> Curly_Q: She/he has slow internet
[16:11] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: I was trying to download the Ubuntu ISO with a slow connection, and it just died at 80%
[16:11] <Insomniaque> >_>
[16:12] <topland> does anybody know how to connect openmoko neo1973 with internet
[16:12] <Curly_Q> Insomniaque are you trying to use   FILE SHARING or just straight download?
[16:12] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: Just a straight downlaod.
[16:12] <Niek> is their some kind of application i can use to setup a connection to some kind of server, (different protocols, SSL, TLS, etc) to check if i can connect?
[16:12] <ikonia> topland: openmoko is not an ubuntu device,m it's not supported here
[16:12] <jenue> ikonia: my .bashrc has a lot of entries. do i just have to append the variable?
[16:13] <theadmin> jenue: yes
[16:13] <ikonia> jenue: if there is no JAVA_HOME set, make a new one, if there is one, remove the values or change them
[16:13] <ikonia> theadmin: no
[16:13] <tmg1|fwtaylor> ...
[16:13] <ikonia> theadmin: there can only be one java_home - appending to an existing java home will stop it working
[16:13] <jenue> theadmin: thanks
[16:13] <theadmin> ikonia: no what? :/ Are you suggesting to remove whatever is already there?
[16:13] <ikonia> theadmin: yes
[16:13] <haavaros> Now I have partitioned and formatted my new harddrive. It's on my server and will be used for backup and shares. How do I make sure that all files and folders will be rw-able to everyone?
[16:13] <jenue> ikonia: thanks! ur awesome
[16:14] <Curly_Q> File sharing seems to be much faster in my case, but, what is the connection speed Insomniaque? Also have you tried www.dslreports.com to see if your speed is what it really is?
[16:14] <Insomniaque> haavaros: chmod 777 /path/to/directory
[16:14] <Insomniaque> I believe
[16:14] <haavaros> Insomniaque: and the path is the mount point?
[16:14] <theadmin> Insomniaque: I'd use torrents if i were you to download Ubuntu
[16:14] <tsyj2007> hi,I want to know what is new in 10.04
[16:14] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: Well yeah, file sharing is faster. But if I don't have the iso on any computer I MUST download to the directory.
[16:15] <Pici> tsyj2007: See the topic in #ubuntu+1
[16:15] <Insomniaque> theadmin: Torrents via command line are hard, and I'm not going to get faster than 160 kb/s period, and that's what I'm getting via HTTP download.
[16:15] <anonyme> ja tu nejaky slovak alebo cech?
[16:15] <chao06> tsyj2007: google is your friend
[16:15] <ikonia> !cz | anonyme
[16:15] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: My speed is 768 kbps / 368 kbps
[16:15] <Insomniaque> Which gives me about 150 to 160 KBps download.
[16:15] <tsyj2007> chao06: yes ,i am always using  it
[16:15] <Curly_Q> Insomniaque, I am willing to go the extra mile and try to DCC Send Ubuntu by way of IRC. I have to think about it for a moment though. Are you interested?
[16:15] <FallenSparrow> hey i have i5 processor, why can i not install the AMD64 vs of chrome
[16:16] <tsyj2007> chao06: hehe
[16:16] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: are you running a 64bit ubuntu install ?
[16:16] <FallenSparrow> i thought amd4 was for amd64 and et64 (intel)
[16:16] <FallenSparrow> yes
[16:16] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: show us the output of "uname -a" please
[16:16] <theadmin> Insomniaque: Torrents are at least resumable
[16:17] <dharrison> hi anybody able to help me with a rsyslog setup please?
[16:17] <ikonia> dharrison: what's the issue ?
[16:17] <haavaros> to chmod 777 an entire disk, is the mount point the correct file path?
[16:17] <sloopy> haavaros, why would you want to do that?
[16:17] <theadmin> haavaros: yes, however, use the recursive flag, and also i'd use 666 if i were you (what's the point of making everything executable?!)
[16:18] <ikonia> theadmin: because it would remove the executable flag from the execuatables, that's why
[16:18] <haavaros> sloopy: theadmin: I just applied a tip I got here. It's on my server behind my NAT router/fw, and everything there should be fully accessible to all my comps. What do you suggest?
[16:18] <Curly_Q> Insomniaque I have the ability with my IRC client to send you TDCC protocol.
[16:19] <Curly_Q> It is a much faster protocol.
[16:19] <theadmin> haavaros: oh well, chmod -R 777 mountpoint
[16:20] <FallenSparrow> says i686
[16:20] <FallenSparrow> i assume that is 32
[16:20] <FallenSparrow> but  i just instaled 64bit
[16:20] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: correct
[16:20] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: no you didn't, you installed 32bitr
[16:20] <haavaros> theadmin, sloopy, ikonia: thx guys
[16:20] <coz_> FallenSparrow,  no that is 32 bit
[16:20] <kalkin-> hi
[16:20] <coz_> FallenSparrow,  and you co uldnt have installed 64 bit  it wont install
[16:20] <kalkin-> i need to use libapache-mod-python, but i need it to use the 2.5 version of python
[16:20] <kalkin-> how do i do that?
[16:20] <FallenSparrow> why wont it install
[16:21] <FallenSparrow> oh you mean that is why chrome wont instal of course
[16:21] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: because you're running a 32bit install
[16:21] <coz_> FallenSparrow,  if you have a 32 bit system the  64 bit live cd will tell you it is the wrong architecture
[16:21] <Roasted> How can I tell the mac address of the wireless access point I'm connected to?
[16:21] <FallenSparrow> no i have i5 so i am 64 bit
[16:21] <FallenSparrow> for sure
[16:21] <haavaros> theadmin: Btw, will all folders and files added later always be rw to everyone?
[16:21] <FallenSparrow> i5 750
[16:21] <ikonia> Roasted: you need to speak to the wirless AP administrator
[16:21] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: then you need to install the 64bit OS
[16:21] <coz_> FallenSparrow,  in terminal   uname -m
[16:22] <LALFGM> anyone know about network conenctions?
[16:22] <ikonia> coz_: he's already shown is is 386
[16:22] <thebruce> hey guys newbie ubuntu user here
[16:22] <FiReSTaRT> where are printer drivers stored?
[16:22] <dharrison> hi. it doesnt seem to be collecting the data
[16:22] <dharrison> i can confirm via wireshark that it is arriving
[16:22] <dharrison> 		
[16:22] <dharrison> any ideas?
[16:22] <FloodBot4> dharrison: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:22] <mitc0185> Just starting to use Lucid Beta 2... can I have the mail notifier in the upper right corner check my Gmail account? when I go to set up mail it starts the Evolution setup, and I don't want to use Evolution.
[16:22] <ikonia> dharrison: have you got your syslog rules setup to to accept and log from the remote servers on your recieving server ?
[16:22] <ikonia> !10.04 > mitc0185
[16:23] <swan> If I install Ubuntu Server LTS can I upgrade to non-LTS releases int he future?
[16:23] <ikonia> swan: sure
[16:23] <dharrison> hi. do you know where i do that please?
[16:23] <FallenSparrow> if i put in teh correcnt CD can i upgrade inplace
[16:23] <ikonia> dharrison: in the syslog config
[16:23] <dharrison> rsyslog.conf?
[16:23] <ikonia> dharrison: no, well, it depends how you've got the recieving server setup
[16:23] <mitc0185> ty
[16:24] <Roasted> ikonia, well, I kind of am.
[16:24] <ikonia> Roasted: then you need to look in your AP's gui
[16:25] <Roasted> ikonia, I'm setting up wireless access points, and there's only 1 AP in the area that I put up. Yet the MAC ont he sticker of it doesn't match up the MAC I'm finding in "connected to" within the wifi radar gui.
[16:25] <ikonia> Roasted: you need to check in your gui
[16:25] <Roasted> ikonia, so I'm trying to figure out what's wrong - the program or the sticker. So I was trying to find a different application (perhaps a terminal command?) to dig it up. maybe even wireshark?
[16:25] <Roasted> ikonia, well, I'm not the *Network* administrator, however I'm the one setting up *this* wireless.
[16:25] <ikonia> Roasted: that's not na ubuntu issue
[16:25] <ikonia> Roasted: you need to use your wirless AP's gui
[16:26] <Roasted> ikonia, right - but I'm asking for an UBUNTU solution. Something I can run in terminal or some kind of Ubuntu application to find it - since I'm... you know... running Ubuntu.
[16:26] <ikonia> Roasted: no, you need to use your wirless AP's gui
[16:26] <Roasted> ikonia, thanks for your help.
[16:26] <Roasted> Question - is there any way within Ubuntu I can find the mac address of the current wireless access point I'm connected to?
[16:26] <farciarz84> hi where the files of exising postgres dbs are kept on ubuntu?
[16:26] <ikonia> Roasted: arp
[16:26] <FallenSparrow> ok i am trying to install teh 64 bit and it says somethgin about purging guest somethgin  and it makes me log in
[16:26] <Roasted> ikonia, oh, so there IS a way to do it in Ubuntu? :P
[16:26] <ikonia> Roasted: no
[16:27] <FallenSparrow> instead of just taking me to the desktp
[16:27] <geekphreak> FallenSparrow:  looked in /var/lib  ??
[16:27] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: where did you get the CD
[16:27] <Roasted> ikonia, appreciate the help. I'll keep searching/asking.
[16:27] <FallenSparrow> dvd release
[16:27] <ikonia> Roasted: arp will show you the mac's curently connected
[16:27] <geekphreak> farciarz84:  i mean :)
[16:27] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: from where
[16:27] <ikonia> Roasted: it won't show you the factual device you want's mac
[16:27] <ikonia> Roasted: for that you need to use the gui
[16:27] <FallenSparrow> torrent link provided on ubuntu alt release linkl
[16:28] <Roasted> ikonia, meaning it'll show me the MAC of the wireless adapter in my laptop - not the actual access point?
[16:28] <Infin1ty> Roasted, iwlist <interface> ap
[16:28] <ikonia> Roasted: no, it wil show you the mac address of any device your connected to, however wirless AP's don't always use their real physical device mac
[16:29] <themusicgod1> !los
[16:29] <themusicgod1> !logs
[16:29] <haavaros> has pastebinit stopped working after the pastebin.com update?
[16:30] <theadmin> haavaros: yup
[16:30] <zagra59> ola q tal
[16:30] <Carsten2010> moin
[16:30] <markl_> que pasa
[16:30] <haavaros> theadmin: how annoying.
[16:30] <Pici> !es | markl_
[16:32] <theadmin> haavaros: You can still paste to other sites such as paste.ubuntu.com
[16:32] <markl_> Pici: geez lighten up, i was just responding to zagra59.  as it turns out, after he had already vanished
[16:33] <theadmin> markl_: That doesn't move spanish Ubuntu support to this channel.
[16:34] <fwryan8> Hello all -- I have  quick question.  I am installing a server, but one of the packages I use has a better version in the Debian repository.  But the package name is the same in both Debian and Ubuntu.  Is there a way to tell apt-get to always get this package from a particular repository?
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> fwryan8:  that can break things very badly.
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> fwryan8:  if you need the latest - there might be Ubuntu PPA repos for what3ever it is you want.
[16:34] <andyb> question for whomever.  10.04, pretty new install.  Top right in the notifications next to volume control... how do i get rid of the little envelope icon?  I can't figure out what's running it
[16:35] <theadmin> fwryan8: Ubuntu uses Ubuntu repositories and NOT debian ones, however, you can add the debian repos to sources.list if you know the risks
[16:35] <themusicgod1> huh
[16:35] <theadmin> ubottu: lucid | andyb
[16:35] <maginot> fwryan8, is you need something very much maybe it is better to build it your self them using from a wrong repository (some libs may be at different places, etc)
[16:35] <fwryan8> Dr_Willis: thanks
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> andyb:  see #ubuntu+1 and see http://delicious.com/dr_willis under my bookmarks/tags somewhere.. on a guide how to remove  the 'social' icons that people dont want
[16:36] <themusicgod1> dpkg-reconfigure worked
[16:36] <themusicgod1> that hasn't happened in awhile :)
[16:36] <themusicgod1> sweeet
[16:36] <Insomniaque> Hey, I'm back.
[16:36] <themusicgod1> andyb: might not be a terrible idea to just install that one package by hand(?)
[16:36] <maginot> *is/if
[16:36] <andyb> happiness.  thanks.
[16:36] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: DCC would be no quicker, in fact it would probably be slower.
[16:36] <Insomniaque> Thanks for the offer though.
[16:36] <Insomniaque> It turns out the reason it died is someone though it would be a good idea to unplug the ethernet cable from the router. -_-'
[16:36] <mrdk> fuck all
[16:36] <trupheenix> how to perform a grep so that i can find a pattern in a set of files in subdirectories?
[16:37] <dewman> is there a channel that might be able to assist in getting a ati aiw 9600 working correctly in 9.10?
[16:37] <CaptainTrek> dewman: that should be here...
[16:37] <dewman> CaptainTrek, =)
[16:37] <tim__> #drupal
[16:37] <CaptainTrek> god people, just call me Trek
[16:37] <CaptainTrek> :P
[16:37] <zagra59> leihsiywerhdhuhlohsddh
[16:38] <zagra59> ola cmo te llamas?
[16:38] <trupheenix> how to perform a grep so that i can find a pattern in a set of files in subdirectories?
[16:38] <Curly_Q> Insomniaque your welcome. What would the unplugging the ethernet cable from the router make a difference? Unless the router is bogged down with data transfers.
[16:38] <ubuntujenkins> any time vault developers in the channel?
[16:38] <maginot> !es | zagra59
[16:38] <dewman> ok trek what do you know about ati restricted drivers and getting them to work? hehe
[16:39] <theadmin> Hm, i wonder, could "dd if=/dev/scd0 of=$HOME/somefile.iso" work?
[16:39] <maginot> theadmin, it will..
[16:39] <maginot> theadmin, don't know if it will work to what you need, but will work and generate a image file
[16:40] <theadmin> maginot: yay then :P *goes creating a Ubuntu ISO of his own CD because I lost the original one*
[16:40] <Curly_Q> Insomniaque it is not DCC send but TDCC send. There is a difference. If your client will allow it, it is a fast brute force send. But it is your choice.
[16:40] <Curly_Q> It is like UDP send.
[16:40] <maginot> theadmin, do you mean, if it works to make a iso to be burned on a cd ?
[16:41] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: First off, unplugging the ethernet cord means my computer is no longer connected to the router meaning it's no longer connected to the internet...
[16:41] <frxstrem> is there a program like FL studio, but for Ubuntu(/Linux)?
[16:41] <Insomniaque> Which is why my download died earlier.
[16:41] <siropio> hello, can anyone tell how to put pwm library for widgets for python3.0 in ubuntu?i went at /usr/lib/python3.0/ but i dont know where to put it so python can knows about it
[16:41] <Curly_Q> I see.
[16:41] <theadmin> maginot: I have Ubuntu CD, wanna create a ISO of it for later redistribution
[16:41] <Insomniaque> Also, Curly_Q: It would be no faster, I'm telling you. At peak speeds, my internet can download at 170 KB/s, right now it's at 160 KB/s, it won't get faster. =P
[16:41] <Curly_Q> It sounds like a timeout problem though.
[16:41] <Insomniaque> Thanks for the offer though.
[16:42] <maginot> theadmin, yeah, sure it will AFAIK
[16:42] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: ? No it said "No route to host."
[16:42] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: Because the internet was unplugged, it didn't know how to route the request. ;)
[16:42] <Insomniaque> It was using "links" for Linux. ;)
[16:42] <Curly_Q> I see.
[16:42] <ubuntu> hi
[16:42] <Curly_Q> I was thinking of a buffer overflow or a cache problem in this case.
[16:42] <theadmin> hi, ubuntu
[16:43] <obiwan_> hi guys
[16:43] <ubuntu> hi obiwan
[16:43] <maginot> theadmin, this may be a better approach dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd.iso bs=2048 conv=sync
[16:43] <theadmin> maginot: what does the bs parameter do?
[16:43] <humblelinuxusr> Can you tell me why when the 9.10 is updating ....i get a power crash, then when starting again my laptop...pow...ubuntu is broken....what kind of os is this?
[16:44] <maginot> theadmin, byte count: read and write BYTES bytes at a time
[16:44] <coz_> humblelinuxusr,  that actually is not usual
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> humblelinuxusr:  ive had the same thing happen in windows.. and os-x and in ..........
[16:44] <maginot> theadmin, byte count: read and write BYTES bytes at a time
[16:44] <coz_> humblelinuxusr,  is this your first time using ubuntu?
[16:44] <Curly_Q> What is the size of your hard drive Insomniaque?
[16:44] <maginot> ops
[16:44] <obiwan_> i need help either from you or from above, but first options looks more feasible hehe
[16:45] <theadmin> What about something like this then? dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile bs=1024 - would that create a 1 mb zero-filled file?
[16:45] <obiwan_> i wanna get the fsck rid of hecking audio problems
[16:45] <jrib> theadmin: it should, yes
[16:45] <obiwan_> i uninstalled pulseaudio
[16:45] <coz_> obiwan_,  oops
[16:45] <humblelinuxusr> coz_,  well it's my 5 atempt to install it, i had problems again and again with it...
[16:45] <jrib> theadmin: wait, you probably need a count or whatever
[16:45] <obiwan_> and now i got problems with alsa, i'm really going mad
[16:45] <coz_> humblelinuxusr,  did you check the cd for errors?
[16:45] <humblelinuxusr> coz_,  i'm not going back to vista....
[16:45] <theadmin> jrib: and this one does what?
[16:45] <jrib> theadmin: otherwise it will go forever
[16:46] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: My hard drive is 80 GB, my external hdd is 500 GB.
[16:46] <coz_> humblelinuxusr,  when the live cd starts it should have an options to check the cd for errors
[16:46] <Insomniaque> My laptop's was 500 GB before it asploded. >_>
[16:46] <maginot> theAdib, no, you need to use count option them, dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile bs=1024 count=1
[16:46] <maginot> theadmin, wrong nick ^
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> humblelinuxusr:  ive rarely had problems..  i do find that making a bootable usb flash drive. instad of an cd. seems to install beter for me most of the time
[16:46] <coz_> humblelinuxusr,  also when downloading a cd  there is a checksum you could run with md5sum to be sure the download is not corrupted
[16:46] <jrib> theadmin: you're saying take 1024 bytes at a time from the /dev/zero file until the end, but /dev/zero has no end :)
[16:46] <humblelinuxusr> coz_,  well didn't do that, but after the install the system worked so nice...until updates....and when updating i had a power crash
[16:46] <obiwan_> np coz_ hehe
[16:47] <theadmin> jrib: Yah, the infinite pit, this /dev/zero is
[16:47] <maginot> jrib, that make a file with the disk size, you need count option like I said
[16:47] <coz_> obiwan_,  i dont blame you for uninstalling pulse... I done use it here at all
[16:47] <jrib> maginot: right
[16:47] <Curly_Q> Insomniaque what is the size of your SWAP file?
[16:47] <humblelinuxusr> coz_, turned back on my laptop and pow, only ubuntu logo and it stops at it.....nothing else
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> ive seen some guides on 'simpiler' ways to disable pulse. with out 'uninstalling' pulse.
[16:48] <maginot> theadmin, jrib /dev/zero output zeros infinitively
[16:48] <maginot> =)
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> humblelinuxusr:  you updated while on battery? or was it plugged into the wall?
[16:48] <coz_> humblelinuxusr,  ok put in the live cd and run the cd check
[16:48] <theadmin> maginot: And /dev/null outputs nothing at all %)
[16:48] <StevePutnam> I have a problem with locking my screen, sometimes when i enter a correct password it says "checking" and never lets me in. After it times out it will let me try again, about 5 mins or so. Any ideas?
[16:48] <maginot> theadmin, to make a blank cd imagine you can use dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/disk.img bs=1M count=4096
[16:48] <humblelinuxusr> coz_,  it's the 6 time i format my laptop hdd...in this way i will have a dead hdd in no time:(as my laptop is brand new
[16:49] <maginot> theadmin, I mean, a blank disk
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> why would someone need a blank cd image?
[16:49] <theadmin> maginot: huh, why do you set count to 4096? Craziness
[16:49] <humblelinuxusr> Dr_Willis, plugged into wall only
[16:49] <coz_> humblelinuxusr,  i am not asking you to reformat the cd  just run the cd check from the live cd
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> humblelinuxusr:  seems odd that  it lost power if its a laptop. Battery was dead?
[16:49] <jrib> Dr_Willis: riaa?
[16:49] <Z4ck> Hi i need help with grub
[16:49] <coz_> humblelinuxusr,  rather I am not asking for you to reformat the drive
[16:50] <Z4ck> somebody?
[16:50] <wejick> Z4ck: whats ur problem
[16:50] <geekphreak> Z4ck: ask
[16:50] <coz_> Z4ck,  what is the issue?
[16:50] <coz_> :)
[16:50] <Curly_Q> StevePutnam when you are able to log into your box, make sure you check the screen saver settings and timout settings. It may be set to a very high security setting.
[16:50] <humblelinuxusr> Dr_Willis,  no battery only wall plug....i had problems with my electric current...and everything went down
[16:50] <coz_> o0
[16:50] <maginot> theadmin, I don't know, 4gb? I dvd could handle that =)
[16:50] <maginot> *I/One
[16:50] <humblelinuxusr> coz_,  i know but i have to do it again, since ubuntu won't start
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> humblelinuxusr:  Thats one of the many reasons that UPS's are sold.
[16:50] <Z4ck> wejick, how can config the grub version that comes with ubuntu 9.10
[16:50] <theadmin> maginot: That's actually 4 MB, no?
[16:51] <obiwan_> coz_: i'm really mad at sound in karmic, i'm just really fed up of it. problems on the internet, problems with totem, problems with evyerthing sound related. I got just alsa installed in my gentoo and works like a charm, and it used too in jaunty. BUt now it's a terrible thing and i just want listen to some hecking dire straits music while working, but for tux' sake i cant and ...well i'm feeling like killing somebody haha
[16:51] <coz_> humblelinuxusr,  thats fine but if you run the cd check and it is corrupt you dont want to install with that cd
[16:51] <maginot> theadmin, no, 1M x 4096 = 1024 x 4096
[16:51] <humblelinuxusr> Dr_Willis,  i know but i can't afford one... i bearlly bought myself a  laptop:(
[16:51] <Insomniaque> Curly_Q: I'm not sure, why?
[16:51] <theadmin> maginot: But it's in kilobytes, no? I mean, the count parameter
[16:51] <geekphreak> Z4ck:  what actually are you trying to do?
[16:51] <wejick> Z4ck: little googling will help you
[16:51] <coz_> obiwan_,  same here ... I have to compile alsa for my sound card anyway since pulse doesn support it
[16:51] <maginot> theadmin, actually just did the calc: 1048576 x 4096
[16:52] <humblelinuxusr> coz_,  ok i will....if you format your hdd for many times...will something bad happen to it?
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> humblelinuxusr:  best thing to do - would be use live cd.. backup your imporntant data/configs. and reinstall
[16:52] <Z4ck> geekphreak,  to make it clear i already have ubuntu installed on target machine but  i have the need to also have windows xp installed
[16:52] <humblelinuxusr> coz_,  will i lose my warranty?
[16:52] <maginot> theadmin, in the end you have 4096MB
[16:52] <maginot> =D
[16:52] <coz_> humblelinuxusr,  well  eventually it will wear out  but no you wont lose warranty
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> humblelinuxusr:  it may be hard to 'repair' or it may not be hard to fix.. totally depends on what got messed up when the power went out
[16:53] <theadmin> hm something way wtfish is going on here
[16:53] <Curly_Q> Oblwan don't despair. It may be just a simple solution. First of all you need to check your speakers for ohmic values first and do a Technical inspection of the electronics. Then from that point on, your sound card may not be compatible with your system.
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> humblelinuxusr:  a warrenty that it broken by reformating a HD. isent much of a warrenty
[16:53] <theadmin> oh never mind XD messed up the package name
[16:53] <obiwan_> coz_: but do you need to compile alsa ? i thought it's enough just removing pulseaudio
[16:53] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  :)
[16:53] <themusic1od1> hmmm
[16:53] <coz_> obiwan_,  I personally have to compile it for my card
[16:53] <themusic1od1> n'ow gdm-greeter isn't showing up
[16:53] <maginot> theadmin, if you got interest, you may take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29 is a good material
[16:53] <geekphreak> Z4ck: if you install xp now, it will wash of gru, should have installed windows first
[16:54] <geekphreak> Pici:  got link to dual boot?
[16:54] <Artiii> Hi to all
[16:54] <maginot> Hey
[16:54] <coz_> Artiii,  hey guy
[16:54] <obiwan_> coz_: i removed pulseaudio and just in case, i have just reinstalled alsa, and still sound won't work, i set up alsamixer at top sound (unmuted ofc), and it doesn't sound.
[16:54] <RyanP> Does anyone know where I might be able to get some help on webmin?
[16:55] <coz_> obiwan_,  which sound card do you have ?
[16:55] <humblelinuxusr> coz_,  ohh....i have a 3 year warranty....i was scared if formating to many times i will lose my hdd ....that's why i was so nervous....that i lose warranty too...
[16:55] <humblelinuxusr> coz_,  thanks
[16:55] <dr3mro> hello , windows 7 has a feature to create a recovery image of a partition and add a boot option to recover that image if any thing goes wrong .. and create a boot up cd to boot if the system is not bootable and apply the recovery is there something simlilar iin linux world
[16:55] <jrib> !webmin | RyanP
[16:55] <Z4ck> geekphreak, agreed but that wasn't my choice. i would preffer to run linux only
[16:55] <Artiii> i have one problem,puted new cam in my pc this is output for lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/411661/ ,but pidgin dosent recogniz it
[16:55] <coz_> humblelinuxusr,  no chance the warranty will void if you continually format drive:)
[16:55] <jrib> dr3mro: partimage, but it's not exactly the same
[16:55] <geekphreak> Z4ck:  well , what do you plan to do now?
[16:55] <RyanP> !ebox
[16:55] <geekphreak> Z4ck:  install win, then reinstall grub?
[16:55] <Artiii> coz_ Hi
[16:56] <jrib> dr3mro: or maybe lvm snapshots but I have no experience with that
[16:56] <humblelinuxusr> coz_,  thank you...only if you mess around with the laptop like braking i appart no?
[16:56] <haavaros> Can I connect to my ubuntu server with a terminal server somehow? VNC is sooo slow
[16:56] <Artiii> i have one problem,puted new cam in my pc this is output for lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/411661/ ,but pidgin dosent recogniz it how can i fix this,can someone help me?
[16:56] <obiwan_> coz_: an intel chipset one
[16:56] <themusic1od1> aha
[16:56] <coz_> humblelinuxusr,  well you dont want to take the laptop apart
[16:56] <dr3mro> jrib, any other ideas .. its realy good feature specially for noobs
[16:56] <ZykoticK9> haavaros, SSH for command line connections
[16:56] <switch10_> haavaros: ssh
[16:57] <giulia> ciao
[16:57] <coz_> obiwan_,   there is a way to compile t his for your card...you will have to find which card it is specifically let me see if I can find a good how to
[16:57] <obiwan_> coz_: 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[16:57] <Z4ck> geekphreak, that is what i want. but don't now how to install grub again, only have the one that comes with ubuntu karmic cd
[16:57] <dr3mro> jrib, if any thin goes wrong just do a repair from  grum menu and system is back again
[16:57] <haavaros> ZykoticK9: Yeah, I do that mostly, but for some tasks I'd like a gui
[16:57] <humblelinuxusr> coz_,  hehe, i was just saying:)no no way i will brake it into small pieces, thanks:)
[16:57] <obiwan_> coz_: but it works
[16:57] <giulia> !list
[16:57] <obiwan_> coz_: if i restart, it works
[16:57] <coz_> obiwan_,  oh ok neverminde then :)
[16:57] <obiwan_> coz_: it'sj ust it gets a mess when i run some sound things
[16:57] <Z4ck> geekphreak, sorry for the english
[16:57] <ZykoticK9> haavaros, you can check out freenx - never used it myself, but I hear/read that it's a faster vnc
[16:57] <geekphreak> Z4ck:  install windows, if you have alternate version of cd, then just use rescue mode, else you will have to run some commands :)
[16:58] <RyanP> Freenx is pretty amazing.
[16:58] <coz_> obiwan_,  oh ok  ...then you might want to go to the #alsa channel and maybe speak with crimson
[16:58] <geekphreak> Z4ck:  which ubuntu version you got
[16:58] <jrib> dr3mro: well, in linux world, just have your /home on a separate partition.  It's rare for anything to go horribly wrong, but if it does, just grab your install disk and reinstal.  When you boot with your old home, everything will be the same.  (User configuration is kept in /home away from system stuff)
[16:58] <Z4ck> geekphreak, karmic
[16:58] <geekphreak> ok
[16:58] <obiwan_> ok i'll try there coz_  tyvm bro
[16:58] <zamba> i have a problem with oidentd in karmic not binding to the ipv6 interface.. this works just fine in intrepid with identical configuration.. any idea?
[16:58] <switch10_> haavaros: why not mount the remote drive and use it like a local drive?  Then you can use Nautilus to drag and drop
[16:58] <vinzzz> bye here
[16:59] <dr3mro> i have an idea ... to have a tar file with all root / without the /home and a tar with all dot files on /home and a script that extract those files and add this script to the grub menu ... any one help me with that
[16:59] <FallenSparrow> wow is caffeine to prevent ubuntu from falling asleep while wathhcing movies, shoudlnt thhat be an option anyways.
[16:59] <FallenSparrow> i coudl never get my ubuntu to "stay away" for an entire movie
[16:59] <geekphreak> Z4ck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:59] <haavaros> switch10_: I guess that would work, thx
[17:00] <switch10_> FallenSparrow: totem does it by default.
[17:00] <jrib> dr3mro: it's a silly idea imo.  Just have /home on a separate partition and make backups of your important things (/msg ubottu backups)
[17:00] <switch10_> FallenSparrow: I think there is an option somewhere in VLC..
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> FallenSparrow:  VLC defainatly has that option.. im pretty sure its enabled by default
[17:01] <dr3mro> jrib, sometimes my system just get failing and error emerge from installing a bad app and there is no system retore in ubuntu and if it goes wrong why we don't have this option
[17:01] <FallenSparrow> never worked for me
[17:01] <jrib> dr3mro: when was the last time that happened and how?
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> FallenSparrow:  its possible its the POWER saving settings that may be kicking in.. not the screensaver
[17:02] <jrib> dr3mro: you can do whatever you want of course but I don't see it as that useful
[17:02] <FallenSparrow> yea tat is the key, but i cannot disable it, even throughi have changed teh option a million time
[17:02] <FallenSparrow> its a desktop btw
[17:02] <switch10_> Dr_Willis: FallenSparrow:  yes...
[17:03] <ubuntu> when upgrading from Xubuntu 9.01 to 10.04 had a HD power failure at last moment and GRUB wasn't created, now I'm booting by Pendrive and have the HD connect, how can I fix that?
[17:03] <switch10_> FallenSparrow: which settings are you changing?
[17:03] <jrib> !lucid | ubuntu
[17:03] <themusic1od1> ubuntu: /sbin/grub-update or something?
[17:03] <dr3mro> jrib, last time my system was unstable because i added alot of untrusted ppas and i got all time errors and most of my apps not working any more even when i created a new user an wiped my /home i had to reinstall and it take me a day to download the packages again on slow internet connection .. would it be a good idea to have a repai option
[17:04] <Curly_Q> Dr Willis I agree. The screen saver has power shut down just as Windows does. It is a nuisance with Windows users and if it is a DUAL boot system the power saver  is a potential problem.
[17:04] <FallenSparrow> http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  ive also seen where people disable the screensaver.. then think the powersaver is a screensaver.. its a seperate thing. (i always disable it) :)
[17:04] <FallenSparrow> what am i doing wrong
[17:04] <tanner> any idea why on the live cd ubuntu detects my video card but suddenly, after installing, it does not?
[17:05] <FallenSparrow> says mount point /mnt/dev does nto exits
[17:05] <jrib> dr3mro: right, you shouldn't really enable unofficial repositories you don't trust.  Other than the methods I've already mentioned, I don't know of other ways to have something like a "restore" option
[17:05] <FallenSparrow> exist
[17:05] <Curly_Q> Dr Willis I fully agree with you. I have seen that as well.
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> FallenSparrow:  what are yo trying to do? you sure you dont have a typo in the command?
[17:05] <jrib> FallenSparrow: well, does it exist?
[17:05] <ubuntu> /sbin/grub-ipdate is absent
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> FallenSparrow:  you Must make mountpoint dirs.. befor mounting things to them
[17:05] <theadmin> it's update-grub
[17:05] <Curly_Q> It also might be a BIOS setting as well.
[17:05] <switch10_> dr3mro: repair option?  back up /etc/apt/sources.list before editing....  problem solved.
[17:06] <joni> hi all :)
[17:06] <jrib> ubuntu: if you are using the development version of ubuntu (10.04), please use #ubuntu+1 for support
[17:06] <schnittl4uch> hello, is there a way to set the window identifier manually? using karmic
[17:06] <geekphreak> later peeps
[17:06] <ubuntu> can I run that from pendrive under 0.01?
[17:06] <FallenSparrow> cannot find deivce for / wheni try to update
[17:06] <joni> does anyone know why netbook-launcher is hogging all of my cpu all the time :(
[17:06] <joni> 60%-90%
[17:07] <jrib> !away > bigjb_gone
[17:09] <Curly_Q> Dr Willis when I sit in all of my CISCO classes, I have learned the infrastructure and net vernacular that there are 7 layers to the IP protocol. The most basic but most important is the Physical Layer which means wires, hardware, and cables, batteries etc.
[17:09] <tanner> any idea why on the live cd ubuntu detects my video card but suddenly, after installing, it does not?
[17:10] <schnittl4uch> i'm trying to use projectM-pulseaudio as my desktop-background via shantz' xwinwrap, but i'm stuck with seting the WID for projectM-pulseaudio. i can't find any documentation for it, so i need to know if i can change the WID for projectM-pulseaudio in another way?
[17:10] <switch10_> tanner: are you using 9.10?
[17:10] <itheos> i dont want to enter password everytime i try to mount a partition. what to do?
[17:10] <tanner> switch10_: yes.
[17:11] <jrib> itheos: do you want it to automatically be mounted on boot?
[17:11] <itheos> that would be awesome jrib
[17:11] <jrib> !fstab | itheos
[17:11] <ownlife> I need the drivers for my harddrive to slipstream into an xp bootable, is there a program to make that happen?
[17:11] <itheos> ah thanks :)
[17:11] <Curly_Q> Tanner try an apt-get update and see if that works.
[17:11] <ownlife> I just need the drivers
[17:11] <tanner> Curly_Q: i did. same deal
[17:12] <tanner> nvidia-detector returns 'none' when clearly the card is visible via lspci
[17:12] <erUSUL> ownlife: hard drives do not need drivers
[17:12] <switch10_> tanner: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:12] <tanner> switch10_: already done that.
[17:12] <Curly_Q> Tanner try going to the website directly and see if there is a Linux apt-get support install for that particular video card.
[17:12] <FallenSparrow> anyone i cant get this to work.  i am following the steps of the guide and nto working
[17:13] <schnittl4uch> i guess no-one can help me with my problem, seems like i have to stay with a simple background image :(
[17:13] <ownlife> erUSUL:  Sir - the lack of SATA drivers on the standard XP bootable prevents me from installing xp on my SATA harddrives
[17:13] <jrib> !helpme | schnittl4uch
[17:13] <Airells> is there any specific room for ubuntu beta version?
[17:13] <ownlife> Also, all hardware needs drivers
[17:13] <jrib> ownlife: ##windows for windows support
[17:13] <erUSUL> ownlife: that's an issue for ##windows
[17:13] <schnittl4uch> !repeat
[17:13] <jrib> FallenSparrow: ask a more specific question
[17:13] <ownlife> This is outside of windows, I just need the drivers from Ubuntu
[17:13] <switch10_> jaja
[17:13] <switch10_> haha
[17:14] <jrib> Airells: #ubuntu+1
[17:14] <FallenSparrow> following the guide i pasted
[17:14] <jrib> ownlife: they are in the kernel.
[17:14] <FallenSparrow> trying to repair grub.  for dual boot windos and linux
[17:14] <Toni35val> wenas
[17:14] <schnittl4uch> !attitude
[17:14] <Airells> jrib thx
[17:14] <ownlife> nonsense
[17:14] <giulia> ciao
[17:14] <RealKillaz> Hi anyone in here using the network-manager-ptpp?
[17:14] <ownlife> Thanks for the help
[17:14] <giulia> !list
[17:15] <jrib> FallenSparrow: unless you're talking to someone by addressing them, this channel has a 1-line memory. Are you following the wiki's guide/
[17:15] <switch10_> ownlife: you are misinformed.
[17:15] <jrib> RealKillaz: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[17:15] <arand> FallenSparrow: The wiki guide, which step is failing?
[17:15] <FallenSparrow> http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html
[17:15] <FallenSparrow> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt works
[17:15] <FallenSparrow> but teh next does not
[17:15] <xomp> that's such a lude web address
[17:15] <jrib> FallenSparrow: why aren't you following the wiki guide?
[17:15] <xomp> ubuntu-inside.me
[17:15] <RealKillaz> I've been using this in previous Ubuntu and now it is not connecting anymore
[17:15] <Curly_Q> FallenSparrow, is your box a single partition or do you have separate logical partitions? That should answer your question.
[17:16] <Lord_Chewbakka> how do i change VideoMemorySize of wine?
[17:16] <FallenSparrow> i only have pysical partitions
[17:16] <RealKillaz> I had a VPN PTPP connection and since I moved to Ubuntu version 9.10 it is broken
[17:16] <jrib> Lord_Chewbakka: try ##winehq
[17:16] <Curly_Q> One?
[17:16] <Curly_Q> Two?
[17:16] <jrib> !who | FallenSparrow
[17:16] <RealKillaz> I can not connect anymore using this VPN protocol...
[17:16] <arand> FallenSparrow: any specific error?
[17:17] <FallenSparrow> arand: filedoes nto exist
[17:17] <Curly_Q> FallenSparrow, If you have a single partition for your box, that is your mistake. It is best to segregate the hard drive by dividing logically partitions for Windows and Linux.
[17:18] <FallenSparrow> no i have a partition for linux and one for windows, as well as one for linux swap i am sorry
[17:18] <Curly_Q> You told us something else earlier.
[17:18] <Curly_Q> OK.
[17:18] <switch10_> FallenSparrow: and what exactly are you trying to do?
[17:19] <Curly_Q> So now did you install Windows first on your DUAL boot system or Linux?
[17:19] <FallenSparrow> windows first curly
[17:19] <Airells> have you noticed any problem with GF 102M on beta version ?
[17:19] <jrib> Airells: #ubuntu+1 for help with lucid
[17:19] <switch10_> FallenSparrow: sudo fdisk -l    will list your partition table.
[17:20] <arand> FallenSparrow: You may be trying to mount the windows partition, are you sure you are using the right sda#
[17:20] <FallenSparrow> wow....i think that is it
[17:21] <Curly_Q> FallenSparrow, I see. Windows has the propensity to take over the MBR, ie. Master Boot Record. Linux puts its own stuff where it wants.
[17:21] <bjarkef> Hmm, no #ubuntu+2. Where do we discuss the Meerkat? ;)
[17:21] <FallenSparrow> any clue if lucid may fix this make windows adn linux play nice
[17:21] <paraplegicpanda> Okay, I'm at it again today. Every time I press the W key it opens Nautilus. It just started yesterday morning after I booted up my box.
[17:21] <FallenSparrow> when i run fdisk -l nothign happens
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> FallenSparrow:  add a sudo to the front
[17:22] <switch10_> FallenSparrow: sudo fdisk -l
[17:22] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: interesting.  Create a new user and see if it still happens
[17:22] <switch10_> or sudo !!
[17:22] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: Good call, I'll try that.
[17:22] <FallenSparrow> omgg.  thsi is makign me mad whatis teh default user onj linux live disc. i logged out
[17:22] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: brb
[17:22] <ZykoticK9> switch10_, nice "sudo !!" is SO handy :)
[17:22] <jrib> FallenSparrow: ubuntu
[17:22] <dr3mro> ok how to create a tar file with all dot files and olders in my  home
[17:23] <FallenSparrow> nno pass ok thank you
[17:23] <switch10_> ZykoticK9?  yup I use it everyday :)
[17:23] <jrib> dr3mro: tar cf file.tar.gz ~/.*    I guess...
[17:23] <jrib> dr3mro: tar cf file.tar ~/.*    I guess...
[17:24] <skino> !pastebin
[17:24] <bjarkef> dr3mro: You could just tar up the entire home folder, including the folder name: cd /home; tar -jcf user.tar.bz2 user/
[17:25] <skino> Evening All. Im having Some issues with Nautilus. Its stopped starting up on Boot... If i try Run it in Terminal i Get http://paste.ubuntu.com/411620/ also i cant right click on desktop and theres no icons.
[17:25] <jrib> bjarkef: he only wants ~/.* I think
[17:26] <FallenSparrow> yes i was picking wrong sda#
[17:26] <FallenSparrow> omg im a tool
[17:26] <bjarkef> jrib: He said all dot files and folders, I guess that is everything in the home folder except files directly in the home folder. Will be a bit more tricky ... ;)
[17:26] <FallenSparrow> i just wnat my ssd dual boot to work....jeez
[17:26] <jrib> bjarkef: I think he meant all dot (files and folders) but maybe you are right.  Only dr3mro knows for sure :)
[17:27] <jrib> bjarkef: we'll never know now!
[17:27] <Kuifje111> hi.. I think something's wrong. when I run an application and use htop it shows or ps aux it shows the cpu usage under the MEM% tab. any reason why this is happening?
[17:27] <bjarkef> jrib: That would make sense.
[17:27] <bjarkef> jrib: I guess he got what he wanted.
[17:28] <FallenSparrow> ok my dual boot does nto work.  even thouugh i was able to reinsatll grub
[17:28] <jrib> Kuifje111: weird terminal size?
[17:28] <FallenSparrow> never opens grub
[17:28] <FallenSparrow> just straight to ubuntu
[17:28] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: Yep, still happens on a new user.
[17:28] <switch10_> FallenSparrow: did you run update-grub?
[17:29] <Kuifje111> jrib: dont think thats it, because when I sort by CPU% it doesnt go up, but when I sort by MEM% it does.
[17:29] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: you're sure no malicious user was on your system setting up some global keybinding?
[17:29] <FallenSparrow> i have rebooted do i ahve to do teh whole proceess over THEN update
[17:29] <coz_> FallenSparrow,  run sudo update-grub  and reboot to see if that works
[17:29] <jrib> Kuifje111: you are using gnome-terminal?
[17:30] <skino> Evening All. Im having Some issues with Nautilus. Its stopped starting up on Boot... If i try Run it in Terminal i Get http://paste.ubuntu.com/411620/ also i cant right click on desktop and theres no icons.
[17:30] <Kuifje111> jrib: headless machine terminal via ssh.
[17:30] <skino> sorry for repost just incase wasnt seen before
[17:30] <switch10_> FallenSparrow: what?  grub is not detecting your other OS.  You need to get it to.  update grub will do it for you
[17:30] <jrib> Kuifje111: how does nautilus open?
[17:30] <jrib> Kuifje111: erm, sorry.  wrong issue :)
[17:30] <FallenSparrow> sudo it doesnt show that it found windows image
[17:30] <Kuifje111> ok
[17:30] <CaptainTrek> skino: you've got a seg fault
[17:30] <FallenSparrow> only linux,. initrd and memtest
[17:30] <CaptainTrek> skino: might run a check on your drive
[17:31] <jrib> Kuifje111: what terminal emulator are you using on the remote machine?
[17:31] <coz_> skino,  did you install the current dropbox?
[17:31] <paraplegicpanda> Of course I'm not positive, but as far as I know no one that would know how to use linux has been in my apartment. There is only one other person with access to my wireless network and they're clueless as well.
[17:31] <FallenSparrow> grub still doe snto loat
[17:31] <FallenSparrow> not load
[17:31] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: so shift-w does it right?
[17:31] <Kuifje111> jrib: I am not sure what you mean. sshd? /bin/bash?
[17:32] <jrib> Kuifje111: where are you typing "ssh blah"?
[17:32] <coz_> skino, be back later
[17:32] <skino> Drives should Be ok... DRopbox current is installed ye
[17:32] <skino> i think lol
[17:32] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: Nope, just "w". Holding the Shift key keeps it from happening.
[17:32] <Kuifje111> jrib: putty?
[17:32] <jrib> Kuifje111: ok.  See if it happens without putty
[17:32] <switch10_> skino: I have had this same problem.  Im trying to remember how I fixed it.... one sec
[17:33] <Kuifje111> ok.
[17:33] <skino> i just got something else now 2 secs while i pastebin
[17:33] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: hmm, try hitting 'w' in the xev window and look for anything interesting
[17:33] <paraplegicpanda> xev window?
[17:33] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: run « xev », it will pop up a window with a box
[17:34] <skino> got this now
[17:34] <skino> http://paste.ubuntu.com/411686/
[17:35] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: the weird thing is I don't know of a default keyboard shortcut for nautilus (I thought maybe your keyboard was sending the wrong signal).  Does the 'w' still get typed by the way?
[17:35] <m4jh0l> hi
[17:35] <m4jh0l> is there a gtk interface for the iptables ??
[17:35] <jrib> m4jh0l: you probably want gufw
[17:35] <airtonix> jrib, i think it is super + e
[17:36] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: Yeah, the w still types, it just opens Nautilus as well. Here's the output from xev - http://paste.ubuntu.com/411687/
[17:36] <m4jh0l> but gufw donot forward
[17:36] <Gene> i have a wireless keyboard and mouse, usb,, the comp acknowledges it, and uses it for bios, then when grub comes on it doesn't work, and then when ubuntu comes on it works again
[17:36] <Gene> can't use the keyboard to select os
[17:36] <Gene> you think there's a way to fix that?
[17:36] <student_> hi
[17:36] <m4jh0l> i mean port forwarding
[17:36] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: can you check that windows+e opens nautilus?
[17:36] <switch10_> skino: have you tried killing nautilus?
[17:36] <student_> hello
[17:36] <student_> how are
[17:36] <student_>  u
[17:36] <skino> ye few times... tells me no process found
[17:36] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: It does not.
[17:36] <FallenSparrow> grub says at the end, cannot find list of partitions
[17:36] <Gene> hello student
[17:37] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: hmm, do you have a spare keyboard handy?
[17:37] <m4jh0l> jrib:but the gufw donot port forward and what i need is the port forward
[17:37] <jrib> m4jh0l: maybe firestarter?
[17:37] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: Unfortunately no, but I'm pretty sure it's not the keyboard since it didn't happen in the livedisc.
[17:37] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: ah
[17:38] <m4jh0l> ok i will try it thanks alot
[17:38] <trucker> m4jh0l: shorewall lets you port forward, very easy to set up
[17:38] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: The only two default keyboard shortcuts with W in them I've found are Ctrl+W to close the Nautilus in focus and Ctrl+Shift+W to close all Nautilus windows.
[17:38] <m4jh0l> trucker:thanks alot man
[17:39] <Jadoza> is it possible to bring 'disowned' processes back up, to see outputs/messages etc?
[17:39] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: wild goose chase, but check if xbindkeys is running
[17:39] <pontus_nilsson> Any tips on a good video editing software for Ubuntu?
[17:39] <trucker> m4jh0l: it is not GUI though
[17:39] <jrib> pontus_nilsson: pitivi, kino are two
[17:39] <switch10_> skino: I experienced the exact same problem on 8.10.  I can't remember how i did it now, sorry.
[17:40] <pontus_nilsson> jrib: Thank you
[17:40] <jrib> skino, switch10_: have you guys checked the permissions on the directory it mentions?
[17:40] <Gene> i have a wireless keyboard and mouse, usb,, the comp acknowledges it, and uses it for bios, then when grub comes on it doesn't work, and then when ubuntu comes on it works again ...can't use the keyboard to select os....you think there's a way to fix that?
[17:41] <skino> nope dunno how too lol
[17:41] <jrib> switch10_, skino: wait, I see now the file doesn't exist.  So figure out what should create /var/lib/samba/usershares/
[17:41] <obiwan_> guys, is there any way to disable the beep you get when pressing rise/lower sound keys?
[17:41] <obiwan_> it's really annoying hehe
[17:41] <FallenSparrow> ok i had to google adding windows to grub
[17:42] <FallenSparrow> about to reboot adn see if ti works
[17:42] <trucker> obiwan_: system-preferences-sound
[17:42] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: Nope, no xbindkeys.
[17:42] <nach0s> Hi all... I would like to know if there is a client to connect to a Exchange 2007 server.... The Evolution client only support exchange 5.5 and 2003... any idea ? thanks!
[17:43] <skino> jrib: sorry to sound an idiot but im completly new to Linux sop i have no idea
[17:43] <Gene> as far as adding windows to grub,,, the way i did it was to go to ubuntu and reload grub
[17:43] <schweegi> good afternoon :(
[17:43] <schweegi> * :)
[17:43] <obiwan_> trucker: i can't do it that way
[17:43] <Kuifje111> how do I scroll down with top?
[17:43] <obiwan_> gnome-volume-control-applet doesn't work
[17:43] <jrib> skino: is samba installed?
[17:43] <skino> errr i dunno lol
[17:43] <skino> old on il check
[17:43] <m4jh0l> trucker:it is okay thanks for your support
[17:43] <robertzaccour> i tried to change the color of the taskbars but only part of the taskbar changes color. the menu parts don't change
[17:44] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: can you think of any possibility other than some daemon is catching 'w' and deciding to execute nautilus?
[17:44] <trucker> obiwan_: your welcome
[17:44] <obiwan_> :P trucker hehe
[17:44] <FallenSparrow> ok grub loads but no winsows. even though this time it said adding windows
[17:45] <skino> jrib: samba is now installed
[17:45] <jrib> skino: still get the error?
[17:45] <robertzaccour> how do i change the color of the entire taskbar and not just the empty part?
[17:46] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: Nope. Crucialhoax and I were trying to figure it out yesterday. The closest we came was a project of mine using GizmoD a few weeks ago, but we got rid of all of the config files and such, nothing is left from it. Other than that, there's not really anything other than Compiz that could be catching my keys. Already checked Compiz, too.
[17:46] <jrib> robertzaccour: art.gnome.org has a tutorial on creating gtk themes if that's what you are looking for
[17:46] <iceroot> robertzaccour: the color is controlled by the theme and not an extra option imo
[17:46] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: if you switch to metacity does it still happen?  The weird thing is it's not user-specific
[17:46] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: Also went through gconf to see if any of the keybinding things in there were set up to do it, but I couldn't find anything.
[17:46] <paraplegicpanda> Let me give that a try.
[17:47] <mattish> is there an easy way to tell what parameters a module is loaded with ?
[17:47] <robertzaccour> jrib, i don't understand complicated script editing. is there a simple way?
[17:47] <jrib> robertzaccour: it's just text files, no scripts.  I don't know of another way
[17:47] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: Yep, still happens in Metacity
[17:47] <skino> jrib: im getting the following now http://paste.ubuntu.com/411692/
[17:48] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: what if... you don't use gnome?
[17:48] <jrib> skino: but nautilus still loads?
[17:48] <skino> jrib: doesnt get past that nautilus-gdu extention
[17:48] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: good question. I'll try installing KDE.
[17:48] <skino> ye but as soon as i close Terminal it closes again
[17:48] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: or just use something like fluxbox if you don't want to pull kde in
[17:48] <FallenSparrow> annyone understand why windows didnt show in my grub menu
[17:49] <skino> and so far this has only solved the problem just temporary sorts it each time im on the PC....
[17:49] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: I suppose I could do that... Fluxbox isn't on the 9.10 disc, is it?
[17:49] <robertzaccour> i mean the color behind the applications places system on the left and behind the icons to the right, i don't know how to change the background color
[17:49] <switch10_> FallenSparrow: because you have yet to run sudo update-grub???
[17:50] <skino> jrib: i just used Alt-F2 to run nautilus and its opened without TErminal...
[17:50] <skino> hope it stays that way lol
[17:50] <m4jh0l> is guidedog good for the portforwarding ??
[17:51] <haavaros> Weird ... I have accessed my server via sftp, and there are two different folders with exactly the same permissions, but I can't make folders in one of them. How do I fix this?
[17:51] <m4jh0l> i have tried it but it seems that the action works only on my machine
[17:51] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: it's not
[17:52] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: Kk, I'm downloading it. I'll let you know what happens
[17:52] <skino> jrib: thanks for help
[17:54] <m4jh0l> jrib:is guidedog good for the portforwarding ??
[17:55] <m4jh0l> jrib:but is seems that the guidedog work only for the local machine and the rules and for the all network
[17:56] <tanner> is anyone using the ps3 remote with boxee?
[17:56] <Curly_Q> Obiwan the beep can be disabled in the BIOS.
[17:56] <chazco> Hi... i've got a duel-boot laptop running Windows 7 and Ubuntu 9.10. Since daylight saving changed the Ubuntu clock has been wrong. Changing it will correct it until the next reboot. Windows 7 appears to be correct all the time. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[17:56] <jrib> m4jh0l: i'm not familiar with it.  What is it that you want to forward exactly?
[17:57] <robertzaccour> ok i used clearlooks theme and was able to change everything except the color of the window border
[17:58] <FallenSparrow> how do i fix to many menuentires for "7" in grub2
[17:58] <switch10_> FallenSparrow: you can remove old kernels in synaptic.  I dont know what you mean by 7..
[17:58] <bobo123> I installed a second copy of ubuntu (that I dont use) when my windows-fiddling destroyed the grub2-menu for this one. So now that second ubuntu have the grub2menu. How do I get the grub2menu back to this ubuntu-installation? (so I can detele the other partition)
[17:59] <bobo123> yeah I should deleting the old kernel-lines in the grub2menu too... later
[18:00] <sycoso> My PC switches of sometimes since I have a new graphic card. Maybe because it doensn't have enough power. but before I buy a new power supply: Is it possible to check that?
[18:00] <switch10_> sycoso: you would need a multimeter..
[18:00] <switch10_> sycoso: or bring it into a shop..
[18:00] <TEEDEV> hi ubuntu users.
[18:01] <sycoso> so it's not possible to do it with software?
[18:01] <trucker> sycoso: i had the same problem...i went into bios @ boot to power tab and added all the watts up, did not have enough.
[18:01] <switch10_> sycoso: is it possible that heat is causing the problem?
[18:01] <Curly_Q> Chazco how old is the computer and how old is the battery. The battery may be either low or dead. One of the first ways to detect it is by re-booting the computer. If the computer re-boots and the time has changed that is an indication that the battery is low or dead.
[18:02] <chazco> Curly_Q - Its a fairly new netbook... the time is correct in Windows, just Ubuntu is wrong
[18:02] <TEEDEV> me is have many problem.
[18:02] <robertzaccour> how do i change the color of the window boreders?
[18:02] <m4jh0l> jrib:well i have a router and it block the connection from the www,and what i wanna do is when any one try to connect to me from outside the network on the port 23 i wanna him to be redirected to me
[18:02] <robertzaccour> borders*
[18:02] <Curly_Q> Chazco set the TIME in the BIOS first then see what happens.
[18:02] <sycoso> switch10_: I dont think so... it isn't hot
[18:03] <jrib> m4jh0l: that's something you need to do on the router
[18:03] <Aciid> is it possible to get Power Manager to show. Time to empty -> Data Length: All Time
[18:03] <Aciid> I only have "1 Week"
[18:03] <switch10_> bobo123: im not sure I understand your question fully, but to restore enries in Grub2 use sudo update-grub
[18:03] <m4jh0l> jrib:the router donot forward but it assign an port to a specific ip-adress
[18:04] <TEEDEV> many internet browser is have many crash.
[18:04] <switch10_> m4jhol:  yes you need to forward the port
[18:05] <doolph> hi
[18:05] <TEEDEV> help me¡
[18:05] <doolph> anyone know a small, fast smtp relay server
[18:05] <geekphreak> evening folks
[18:05] <dhendrix> I totally suck with Debian's package management system... Can someone point me toward a doc that explains how to recompile a program with added options? Specifically, I need to recompile git-core with USE_CURL_MULTI.
[18:05] <m4jh0l> jrib:the iptbales do the work but it is kind of hard i tried alot,but a couldn't understand the way it work so i could not deal with it sorry for the bather :)
[18:06] <TEEDEV> เอ่อ
[18:06] <guntbert> !th | TEEDEV
[18:06] <TEEDEV> ช่วยกูที
[18:06] <jrib> dhendrix: see ubottu, but edit debian/rules
[18:06] <jrib> !source | dhendrix
[18:06] <dhendrix> jrib:  thanks!
[18:07] <jrib> dhendrix: sometimes (always?) there are environment variables that you can use when you run the command to rebuild the package, but I don't remember what they are atm
[18:07] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: It doesn't do it in Fluxbox. I'm installing KDE right now to test it in there.
[18:07] <Kuifje111> what does the red bar at the cpu utilization graph mean in htop?
[18:07] <fieLd> -
[18:07] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: I'm assuming that if it doesn't do it in KDE I should reinstall Gnome?
[18:08] <TEEDEV> me is try 4 internet browser but, is crash same.
[18:08] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: I don't think renistalling will do anything
[18:08] <geekphreak> TEEDEV: which browser?
[18:09] <trucker> m4jh0l:I will help you set up shorewall if you want, i can do it for u and u just need to install it and put the fies in
[18:09] <obiwan_> Curly_Q: it's a system sound
[18:09] <TEEDEV> geekphreak: FF mindfield swiftfox seamonkey
[18:09] <obiwan_> Curly_Q: when i press the raise / lower sound keys, the sound is emitted by ubuntu not by the bios
[18:10] <geekphreak> TEEDEV: all browsers crash ?
[18:10] <TEEDEV> yes
[18:10] <geekphreak> TEEDEV: which ubuntu version?
[18:10] <TEEDEV> 9.10
[18:10] <geekphreak> have you tried creating ne profile?
[18:10] <geekphreak> new*
[18:11] <Curly_Q> Obiwan that reminds me of what is called a buffer overflow. There is the possibility that you or someone spilled liquid on the keyboard or it just may be that you may try another keyboard.
[18:11] <dacresni> how do i get setuptools (easy_install) or pip on ubuntu jeos
[18:11] <dacresni> ?
[18:11] <bobo123> switch10_: well it is not the entries that is wrong, it is that the scond ubuntu-installtion that I have on another partition "owns" the grub2-menu. I want this ubuntuinstallations partitions /boot/grub/ to be used instead
[18:12] <TEEDEV> geekphreak: i try it but, it same
[18:12] <geekphreak> TEEDEV:  open terminal plz, lets try something
[18:12] <obiwan_> i know because if it was the bios, it would emit it by the speakers, but conversely, the sound outputs off headphones and it varies depending on how much volume is currently on. When i raise from 0, it's low, and it keeps ascending , so when i'm about 100%, it's quite hard
[18:13] <TEEDEV> geekphreak segmentation fault
[18:13] <TEEDEV> and other
[18:13] <geekphreak> TEEDEV: segmentation fault on opening terminal?
[18:14] <TEEDEV> yes
[18:14] <tanner> is anyone using the ps3 remote with boxee?
[18:14] <Curly_Q> Obiwan not true. If the computer speaker is beeping then it is not the speakers. It is the computer speaker. Now having said that, if you are getting these so-called beeps from your external speakers then check the volume controls first.
[18:14] <geekphreak> lol ok
[18:14] <BlessJah> hi, i want to create video stream that would be recocnized as a camera using movie file
[18:14] <geekphreak> TEEDEV:  press alt+f2
[18:14] <geekphreak> TEEDEV:  what comes up, plz tell me
[18:14] <BlessJah> is it possible?
[18:14] <m4jh0l> jrid:thanks alot man look i have installed the shorewall and what i wanna do is that forward any connection tries to the router will go to
[18:15] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: So do you have any suggestions? The last thing I want to do is stop using Gnome, I prefer it WAY over KDE...
[18:15] <m4jh0l> jrib:knowing that my ip is 192.168.1.66 and the router ip 192.168.1.254
[18:15] <Curly_Q> It is also possible that your sound card is misconfigured via the software.
[18:15] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: did you end up testing kde?
[18:15] <BlessJah> paraplegicpanda: try openbox
[18:15] <jrib> m4jh0l: afaik this is to be done on the router
[18:15] <BlessJah> paraplegicpanda: than u can tell why kde is bad
[18:16] <obiwan_> Curly_Q: i get the sound from my speakers when i'm using the speakrs. when i'm on my headphones, i get the sound from my headphones. I remember when i had a pc tower, the bios sounds were emitted from the inside, not from speakers/headphones. So i think it comes from ubuntu, not the motherboard
[18:16] <geekphreak> kde is good :)
[18:16] <m4jh0l> jrib:afaik what is that?
[18:16] <BlessJah> geekphreak: openbox is much better </flame>
[18:16] <schertzer> schertzer
[18:16] <jrib> m4jh0l: as far as i know
[18:16] <geekphreak> m4jh0l:  as far as i know
[18:16] <Curly_Q> Obiwan that explanation makes it much more clear now.
[18:16] <geekphreak> jrib:  man ur fast :p
[18:17] <obiwan_> oh sry Curly_Q if i didn't express myself well hehe
[18:17] <jrib> geekphreak: :)
[18:17] <geekphreak> BlessJah: :)
[18:17] <BlessJah> geekphreak: 10 seconds here
[18:17] <jrib> heh
[18:17] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: KDE is downloading right now. I'll try OpenBox when it's done. Won't hurt to have all of the other desktop environments available.
[18:17] <obiwan_> Curly_Q: so you know any way to disable that sound? i completely disabled the "ubuntu sounds" in the sound preferences but sitll get that
[18:17] <BlessJah> so now u can tell me, how to create video stream, that would be recognised as a webcam, from a movie file
[18:17] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: I mean at this point, you just have to take each piece of software that you are running in gnome and eliminate it as the culprit one by one
[18:18] <geekphreak> obiwan_: you wana disable theme sound?
[18:18] <devsundar> Can you suggest any download manager for ubuntu similar to Freedownload manager
[18:18] <TEEDEV> geekphreak ahh! at tomorow ,me is online onmobile.
[18:18] <dacresni> sigh
[18:18] <geekphreak> BlessJah:  i know vlc can stream it online , but can u se that as webcam, i aint sure :)
[18:18] <BlessJah> devsundar: wget is great, but it is CLI, u can try gwget
[18:18] <obiwan_> actually that option is a liar, i also get a sound when login splash spawns, but i got rid of that sound from gnome conf. i searched about this sound too, with no success
[18:18] <jrib> devsundar: there's a firefox extension called downthemall.  Or try: gwget, aria, or d4x
[18:18] <BlessJah> geekphreak: i need webcam stream
[18:19] <obiwan_> geekphreak: i wanna disable the sound you get when you press the raise / lower keyboard keys
[18:19] <erwin> hola
[18:19] <erwin> hi
[18:19] <obiwan_> that middle-high pitch short sound
[18:19] <erwin> hello
[18:19] <BlessJah> ahoj!
[18:19] <geekphreak> obiwan_:  you disable sound scheme , but it still plays right?
[18:19] <obiwan_> hola/hi Guest52322 :P
[18:19] <Curly_Q> No problem Obiwan. Just a point in fact not only for you but also for all of those viewing this conversation. The very first thing any good Technician will do is first inspect the physical hardware such as wires and the like. In CISCO classes it is called: "Physical Layer" Which means any possible hardware item. Next as you said Linux is the cause which means that it is another Layer which could be the Application Layer.
[18:20] <obiwan_> yeah geekphreak
[18:20] <geekphreak> obiwan_: open sound scheme folder where sound files are, rename the .wav file to .wav.bak
[18:20] <obiwan_> all of them?
[18:20] <geekphreak> just rename it to bak, if it wont find the file, it wont play
[18:20] <paraplegicpanda> jrib: Okay, I'm installing Openbox. I'll start eliminating programs in Gnome while I wait, I suppose.
[18:20] <geekphreak> naaw just 2 of those
[18:20] <digitalice> hey, got a brand new server over here, what should i configure first, how do i set the machine name and stuff? it also complains about LOCALE (few things are unset)
[18:20] <obiwan_> which geekphreak ?
[18:20] <geekphreak> obiwan_: let me see
[18:20] <obiwan_> ty :)
[18:20] <jrib> paraplegicpanda: yeah, open system monitor, and start killing stuff
[18:20] <BlessJah> obiwan_: try one by one
[18:20] <Guest52322> bvm
[18:21] <obiwan_> which dir BlessJah ?
[18:21] <geekphreak> obiwan_:  try looking in /usr/share/sounds
[18:21] <obiwan_> ok
[18:21] <obiwan_> brb
[18:21] <jrib> heh, he started with the irc client...
[18:21] <BlessJah> it's the place where doors never closes
[18:21] <Starcraftmazter> can anyome recommend a prog that compresses AVI files while preserving quality well. I have fraps videos of 20-30 secs in AVI format, like 1GB each
[18:22] <FallenSparrow> i need some grub assistance, i am unable to get grub menu to show and to boot into my windows 7 install
[18:22] <Kuifje111> Starcraftmazter: try to rar 'em.
[18:22] <jrib> Starcraftmazter: ffmpeg (I cannot tell you what options you wnat to use with it though)
[18:22] <Starcraftmazter> Kuifje111: i need to youtube them
[18:22] <Kuifje111> ah, ok.
[18:23] <geekphreak> FallenSparrow:  ubuntu shows?
[18:23] <trucker> Starcraftmazter: tablet-encode
[18:23] <Kuifje111> did youtube have a size limit?
[18:23] <BlessJah> geekphreak: could u open VLC? CTRL+S (streaming) and last tab named capture devices or sth similar
[18:23] <Kuifje111> only timelimit afaik.
[18:23] <Starcraftmazter> i dont know
[18:23] <TEEDEV> if me is use WX to develop program it's work?
[18:23] <FallenSparrow> grub menu never loads
[18:23] <geekphreak> Kuifje111:  try mediacoder , it an convert avi to flv
[18:23] <Starcraftmazter> but im not upload 1GB videos with crappy australian internet
[18:23] <Starcraftmazter> uploading*
[18:23] <jrib> TEEDEV: yes?
[18:23] <FallenSparrow> i also sometimes get an error saying somethgin like two many titles in menuentry somethigin
[18:23] <obiwan_> none of them geekphreak and
[18:23] <obiwan_> BlessJah:
[18:23] <geekphreak> BlessJah:  let me check
[18:24] <trucker> Starcraftmazter: tablet-encode in synaptic, lets you choose compression
[18:24] <Yonut27> I have installed Karmic Koala, and have noticed something different from coming from Debian.  When I copy a link in the file manager, and paste it to a terminal window, it uses a url like path (file:///home/my%20home/) instead of the full proper path (/home/my\ home).  Is there any way I can fix this?
[18:24]  * BlessJah allows geekphreak to check
[18:24] <TEEDEV> i want to dev karaoke for thai users.
[18:24] <Starcraftmazter> trucker: does it have a gui?
[18:24] <karim_frl> hello every body
[18:24] <ubuntu> hello
[18:24] <frootee> is there any way in Ubuntu to play multiple sound files at once, at the click of a button?
[18:24] <BlessJah> frootee: u can make bash script
[18:24] <ubuntu> hi
[18:25] <jrib> Yonut27: this is probably just a version issue with gnome-terminal (I guess)
[18:25] <frootee> BlessJah, could you show me how to do that please
[18:25] <overmind> ubuntu: Hi, do you need help?
[18:25] <geekphreak> BlessJah:  yes the option is there
[18:25] <trucker> Starcraftmazter: yes it does and is wicked fast it lets you convert to different formats as well
[18:25] <TEEDEV> if me is use WX + perl?
[18:25] <BlessJah> frootee: wait a second
[18:25] <jrib> TEEDEV: what is your question?
[18:25] <frootee> ok
[18:25] <BlessJah> geekphreak: so how can i create device?
[18:25] <trucker> Starcraftmazter: install it and run it from CLI and it will open the gui
[18:26] <Gene> i have a wireless keyboard and mouse, usb,, the comp acknowledges it, and uses it for bios, then when grub comes on it doesn't work, and then when ubuntu comes on it works again ...can't use the keyboard to select os....you think there's a way to fix that?
[18:26] <BlessJah> geekphreak: video device -> /dev/video123?
[18:26] <Starcraftmazter> trucker: what preset do I choose?
[18:26] <BlessJah> frootee: are they wav files?
[18:26] <TEEDEV> if me is use WX + perl it's work?
[18:26] <frootee> BlessJah, yes
[18:26] <jrib> TEEDEV: your question makes no sense
[18:26] <jrib> !th | TEEDEV
[18:26] <BlessJah> frootee: make text file #!/bin/bash
[18:26] <TEEDEV> ahh
[18:27] <BlessJah> frootee: aplay file1.wav & aplay file2.wav & aplay file100.wav &
[18:27] <frootee> BlessJah, type that command in exactly?
[18:27] <geekphreak> BlessJah: it aint doing both at same time
[18:27] <trucker> Starcraftmazter: depends on what you want...i would try using different ones and see which has the best quality and size
[18:27] <obiwan_> guys, i got problems with alsa. it does'nt work with some apps while playing in others. For example, if after playing a youtube video i play something on totem, it says 'muted' and doesn't play anything. Sometimes neither online flash vids nor totem play anything. Everything gets back (for a while) when i reboot.
[18:27] <obiwan_> i removed pulseaudio because i had wine sound problems with it
[18:28] <thevishy> i need a help , did a pxe install , and managed to install a system thought a bit broken . during pxe installation it failed during apt installation of ubuntu as a desktop option ....and hence seems like apt installation was incomplete
[18:28] <BlessJah> geekphreak: i did not understand
[18:28] <TEEDEV> บาย
[18:28] <thevishy> however the installation proceeded and I got a ubuntu system which goes to prompt
[18:28] <frootee> BlessJah, that makes an error
[18:28] <BlessJah> frootee: show me error (query)
[18:28] <geekphreak> BlessJah:  i am trying to stream at this time, stream work, but aint showing as device
[18:28] <thevishy> now I need to install it as a ubuntu which has all desktop softwares installed including GUI
[18:28] <geekphreak> maybe i am missing something, let me play with it
[18:28] <bobo123> whould "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" be enough to move the grub2-menu to this ubuntuinstalltions partition? (currently grub2 use another partition for its /boot/grub/)
[18:29] <frootee> BlessJah, make: *** No rule to make target `text'.  Stop.
[18:29] <BlessJah> geekphreak: ok
[18:29] <dr3mro> how to tar my home dot files ???? i used tar -cpzvf home.tgz ~/.* but it tar all my home
[18:29] <BlessJah> frootee: query
[18:29] <Starcraftmazter> trucker: the quality it gives it pretty bad unfortunately
[18:29] <Gene> bobo123, why do you want to move it?
[18:30] <crucialhoax> dr3mro: you need to set up the exclude argument
[18:30] <crucialhoax> !tar | dr3mro
[18:30] <thevishy> well guys let me rephrase me question , suppose I have a basic ubuntu system with only command interface and probably no software packages like open office movie player etc ...
[18:30] <jrib> dr3mro: how do you know it tarred all of your home?
[18:30] <thevishy> what is the simplest way to install all this with a GUI like gnome
[18:30] <jrib> thevishy: install ubuntu-desktop
[18:30] <dr3mro> jrib, i open the tar file
[18:30] <Serverboost> Hey guys, I am busy with a PXE boot using preseed, but it keeps getting stuck on "Detect and mount CD-ROM), how can the CD-ROM check be disabled? There's no CD-ROM available on the server.
[18:31] <dr3mro> jrib, and during the tar process i saw it taring my pictures
[18:31] <FallenSparrow> anyone able to help at all..
[18:31] <jrib> dr3mro: well it shouldn't.  Are you sure you ran the right command?
[18:31] <thevishy> Serverboost : seems like u need to configure installation via a webserver
[18:31] <dr3mro> tar -cpzvf home.tgz ~/.*
[18:31] <dr3mro> jrib, tar -cpzvf home.tgz ~/.*
[18:32] <jrib> dr3mro: yes, that will work
[18:32] <bobo123> Gene: I want to delete the other partition. so I have to make grubs menufile live on this partition instead.
[18:32] <Serverboost> thevishy, what you mean? It's a PXE boot
[18:32] <Gene> aha, ic
[18:32] <Pici> dr3mro, jrib: It may choke on ~/.gvfs
[18:32] <xampp> pxe boot its the way of the cloud
[18:32] <jrib> dr3mro: what Pici said is true...
[18:32] <microbe> salut
[18:32] <dr3mro> Pici, no i excludes all unneccessary files
[18:33] <dr3mro> --exclude=
[18:33] <thevishy> i suppose u need to mount a installation cd probably on ur server and tell the pxe client so
[18:33] <Gene> bobo123, i understand the reason why, but, unfortunately i don't know how to do that, good luck
[18:33] <Pici> dr3mro: okay :)
[18:33] <thevishy> what pxe procedure are u following , maybe u shud say thatr
[18:33] <xampp> we need avatars for irc
[18:33] <guntbert> !u | thevishy
[18:33] <Serverboost> thevishy no you dont understand :) installation goes fine, but when going through the steps it gets stuck on Detect and mount CD-ROM
[18:33] <Serverboost> I need to find a way to skip that step
[18:33] <xampp> !seen mark
[18:34] <Serverboost> It's a network boot
[18:34] <thevishy> pxe i see , probably then i got u wrong
[18:34] <xampp> !help
[18:34] <thevishy> i did a PXE boot just about now :)
[18:34] <guntbert> !askthebot | xampp
[18:34] <xampp> !trivia
[18:34] <Gene> bobo123, you might consider just unplugging the other drive, and reinstalling ubuntu
[18:34] <Pici> xampp: Please stop that. /msg ubottu if you're looking for factoids.
[18:34] <microbe> voila mon probleme  je vouvrai tchater sur le net en webcam  mais ca ne fonctionne pas  pourtant avec amsn ca fonctionne j'ai suivi un  tuto  sur la doc ubuntu  pour compiler flashcam    mais rien n'y fait
[18:34] <dr3mro> jrib, i iam using it now and it taring my pictues
[18:35] <xampp> 12 milion users ?
[18:35] <Pici> !it | microbe
[18:35] <Pici> xampp: Do you have a support question?
[18:35] <xampp> thats what i call a factoid
[18:35] <ZykoticK9> !fr | microbe
[18:35] <bazhang> xampp, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[18:35] <Gene> bobo123, if you use a seperate 'home' directory , and only reload the os, it should be quick, and maintain most of your preferences
[18:35] <Pici> ZykoticK9: thanks. my brain broke.
[18:35] <Serverboost> thevishy, u got any clue?
[18:35] <thevishy> jnb : source.list is configured to use my local computer to install .... like 192.168.0.112
[18:35] <bobo123> ok
[18:35] <jrib> dr3mro: where are your pictures?
[18:36] <dr3mro> jrib, my home
[18:36] <Gene> bobo 123, did you have 'home' on a seperate partition?
[18:36] <jrib> dr3mro: be specific
[18:36] <thevishy> Serverboost : till what level does the pxe boot proceed ? does it ask u to enter information like Ubuntu Archive Mirror address
[18:36] <dr3mro> jrib, tar -cpzvf home.tgz --exclude=.VirtualBox/ --exclude=.gvfs/ --exclude=backup.tgz --exclude=home.tgz ~/.*
[18:36] <xampp> who do i upload my pic to the could ?
[18:36] <dr3mro> jrib, /home/dr3mro/Pictures
[18:37] <bobo123> Gene: no everything on one in this ubuntuinstallation. And I dont use the other ubuntu-installtion.
[18:37] <Serverboost> thevishy, first steps go fine, selecting language etc... then it gets stuck that it cannot find a CD-rom (normal, because it's a network boot) and it asks to load CD-rom drivers
[18:37] <bobo123> must reboot now to test.
[18:37] <BlessJah> geekphreak: is it taking so long? it's not so important xD
[18:37] <jrib> dr3mro: don't know then, it shouldn't be
[18:37] <dr3mro> please help why this does not tar only my DOT files ( tar -cpzvf home.tgz --exclude=.VirtualBox/ --exclude=.gvfs/ --exclude=backup.tgz --exclude=home.tgz ~/.* )
[18:37] <Serverboost> I need to know how to SKIP that step, that it doesnt detect it
[18:37] <jrib> dr3mro: maybe ~/.* expands to ~/. ? check
[18:37] <Serverboost> It's the 3rd menu option  "Detect and mount CD-ROM"
[18:38] <thevishy> Serverboost : oh u have such an option ....
[18:38] <Serverboost> Or I need another version of Ubuntu?
[18:38] <dr3mro> jrib, SAME "tar -cpzvf home.tgz --exclude=.VirtualBox/ --exclude=.gvfs/ --exclude=backup.tgz --exclude=home.tgz /home/dr3mro/.*"
[18:38] <jrib> dr3mro: ah yes it does on bash... used to zsh...
[18:38] <xampp> !search XXX
[18:38] <Serverboost> I downloaded server version, is there a netinstall?
[18:38] <Gene> bobo123, next time you install i would suggest that you choose the partitions manually, have one for system, and a larger one for 'home' and a smaller one for swap, (swap never needs to be more than about 2gb0
[18:38] <jrib> dr3mro: it will expand to ~/.
[18:38] <k1llm3kw1k> Hi All
[18:38] <thevishy> i use netboot
[18:38] <xampp> !ist XXX
[18:38] <dr3mro> jrib, SAME "tar -cpzvf home.tgz --exclude=.VirtualBox/ --exclude=.gvfs/ --exclude=backup.tgz --exclude=home.tgz /home/dr3mro/.*"
[18:39] <mark44> mareczek
[18:39] <guntbert> xampp: please don't do that in the channel - use /query ubottu
[18:39] <bazhang> xampp, stop that please
[18:39] <Gene> bobo123, that way if you need to reinstall, or upgrade you will keep all your files and prefferences
[18:39] <xampp> my hands are tied
[18:39] <thevishy> u download netboot directory from ubuntu server ...copy the ubuntu-installed directory / pxelinux.0 and pxelinux.cfg folders to tftp home directory
[18:39] <jrib> dr3mro: I didn't tell you to write "~/.".  I said ~/.* will include ~/. which is equal to ~
[18:40] <k1llm3kw1k> has anyone been having any wierd xorg issues with 10.04. On my laptop it goes 8 bit and tiles everywhere
[18:40] <dr3mro> jrib, so what if i want to only archive dot files
[18:40] <jrib> dr3mro: well zsh does the smart thing.  I don't know what the easiest way for you to do that on bash would be
[18:40] <thevishy> google,.com
[18:41] <trism> dr3mro: if all your . files are at least two characters long, you could try ~/.??* (two so it skips .. too)
[18:41] <ZykoticK9> k1llm3kw1k, reask in lucid channel #ubuntu+1
[18:41] <k1llm3kw1k> oh thanks :) sorry
[18:41] <Rafael_> I posted this question a few days ago, but have not solve it yet: I use rsync to copy a  windows client folder into the ubuntu server every using rsync and Cron. So for example Folder “test” on windows is mounted on ubuntu and from there thu rsync it copies into another folder,  at the present moment to do this I have to share on the windows computer the folder “test”with every body for this to happen…. i would like t
[18:41] <Rafael_> o know if there is a way to avoid sharing my windows folder with everybody?
[18:42] <schiz0id> hi
[18:42] <schiz0id> I have a question
[18:42] <dr3mro> trism, works !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you .. may i ask why???
[18:43] <nonameNN> hey does any one know how to fix a problem with openoffice presentation, when i click on play i can still see the gnome panels...
[18:43] <schiz0id> I recently switched my family computer completely over to ubuntu and have been having issues with sound
[18:43] <eraggo> schiz0id: what kind of...?
[18:43] <schiz0id> I set all the volume (master and everything else) all the way up, and get white noise from my speakers, but it still won't output sound from videos or anything else online
[18:43] <schiz0id> help?
[18:44] <dr3mro> trism, works !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you .. may i ask why???
[18:44] <schiz0id> oh, it also won't play startup music
[18:45] <eraggo> schiz0id: are you SURE there is no bade signals from your hardware?
[18:45] <jrib> dr3mro, trism: .[^.]*  seems to be the "right" way
[18:46] <Serverboost> thevishy, it worked with the netboot,it was not present by default but I uploaded it now and now it works, thank you :)
[18:46] <jrib> dr3mro, trism: although that excludes files that start with multiple dots so then you need ..?* too
[18:46] <trism> jrib: well, that would skip every dot in a file name, wouldn't it?
[18:46] <eraggo> schiz0id: for example cutted thread or something...
[18:46] <schiz0id> errago: bade signals....?
[18:46] <BlessJah> geekphreak: ping
[18:46] <schiz0id> huh?
[18:46] <schiz0id> no
[18:46] <eraggo> hmmm
[18:46] <schiz0id> it's just the integrated audio from the motherboard
[18:46] <crucialhoax> dr3mro: did you get it?
[18:47] <eraggo> schiz0id: and you are sure everything is connected right?
[18:47] <dr3mro> crucialhoax, yes
[18:47] <geekphreak> BlessJah:  what?
[18:47] <FallenSparrow> i am having ttrouble adding windows 7 to grub2.
[18:47] <FallenSparrow> anyone have experience
[18:47] <jrib> trism: .[^.]* for files beginning with '.' and having second character non-dot and then    ..?*  for files beginning with .. and having second character . (and you don't want ..)
[18:47] <BlessJah> geekphreak: are u still trying or u gaved it up?
[18:47] <crucialhoax> dr3mro: with the exclude from?
[18:47] <schiz0id> eraggo: absolutely. I'm not THAT much of a n00b
[18:48] <PyroPhelia> does anybody know if the ext4 tools have been updated so you can run chkdsk on ext4 partitions larger than 15TB yet?
[18:48] <geekphreak> BlessJah:  still looking look at webcam-server
[18:48] <dr3mro> crucialhoax, no by .??*
[18:48] <jrib> trism: anyway, I'll stick to zsh...
[18:48] <frxstrem> I have currently installed PHP in Ubuntu through APT, and it is currently version 5.2.x - is there any way to easily upgrade to PHP 5.3.x?
[18:48] <BlessJah> geekphreak: so u can give up, it's no so important xD
[18:48] <eraggo> schiz0id: did all drivers work right in live-CD?
[18:48] <crucialhoax> dr3mro: Ok, glad its working. I will keep that method in mind.
[18:48] <schiz0id> yes
[18:49] <schiz0id> well........I honestly don't know
[18:49] <schiz0id> I dual booted for a while and it worked then
[18:49] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: what is the problem?
[18:49] <PyroPhelia> s/chkdsk/fsck
[18:49] <geekphreak> BlessJah:  lol ok
[18:49] <eraggo> hmmm... have you used some kind of sound before trying to access sound driver? for eaxmple youtube
[18:49] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: after having recently switched my family computer entirely to ubuntu I am having sound issues.......it won't play back anything from internet or startup music
[18:50] <quellhorst> is there a list of whats new in ubuntu 10.x?
[18:50] <BlessJah> got to go CYA guys
[18:50] <jrib> quellhorst: try #ubuntu+1
[18:50] <PyroPhelia> anybody know?
[18:50] <schiz0id> eraggo: yes. that's how I know it won't do internet stuff
[18:50] <epaphus> Hello, if I start ubuntu with a blacklisted module.. but then i want to breing that module up how do i do it??
[18:50] <trism> jrib: oh I see, for some reason I assumed the glob would apply to [^.], yeah that would be a better way
[18:50] <epaphus> load the module
[18:50] <PyroPhelia> epaphus, modprobe <moduleName>
[18:51] <dr3mro> crucialhoax, now i got my / and /home tared ... time to back them up on external device and create a script to untar if anything got wrong
[18:51] <histo> I need to install another website on a ubunter server. My problem is I only want the other site enabled for internal users not accesible to the world only internal ips?
[18:51] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: Ok, do a sudo lshw -C Sound
[18:51] <jrib> dr3mro: keep in mind .??* won't glob files like '.a', '.b', etc.
[18:52] <geekphreak> histo:  htaccess file
[18:52] <eraggo> schiz0id: try to forget windows.... you can have 1 program using sound at the time... i recently saw that
[18:52] <crucialhoax> dr3mro: consider Deja Dup :)
[18:52] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: ok trying
[18:52] <servvs> histo, designate a port that is blocked by incoming
[18:52] <eraggo> and... im drunk...
[18:52] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: this will give us what driver you are using and the hardware :)
[18:52] <crucialhoax> eraggo: I bet all the post going down the screen are fun then...
[18:52] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: hold on have to switch users
[18:52] <schiz0id> brb
[18:52] <crucialhoax> ok
[18:53] <histo> servvs: like right now the webserver resolvs a go daddy domain but I want to install avantfax so I would like example.com/avantfax  to only be able to internal users.
[18:53] <thevishy> i was using the ip of my lan computer to install via PXE on my laptop ...so source.list is mentioning this IP now I need to revert back to the original
[18:53] <thevishy> how do I do that ?
[18:53] <PyroPhelia> so does anybody here use ext4 on extremely large raids?
[18:53] <jrib> thevishy: system -> administration -> software sources
[18:53] <sorin7486> hey ... got a problem: just installed 9.10 and the network works but I can't get throught the proxy
[18:53] <PyroPhelia> yes I know it's only a testing FS but I'm curios
[18:53] <thevishy> can I just search replace the IP address 192.168.0.102 with some mirror address or something if yes what exaxtly
[18:54] <sorin7486> everything works fine in windows tho
[18:54] <schiz0id_> ok I'm back
[18:54] <thevishy> jnb as i told u no GUI , its a botched system
[18:54] <schiz0id_> trying command now
[18:54] <histo> Almsot like another virtualhost but I want to use the same domain name or coudl be like fax.example.com instead of www.example.com  but I only want internal ips to get to fax.example.com
[18:54] <servvs> histo: then do the .htaccess, and if you wanna spend some time on it, install a cms or make one and have only your login be able to access the stuff you don't want everyone else to access
[18:54] <histo> which would show a different page than www
[18:54] <jrib> thevishy: do a proper install... if you want to ignore my advice though, use sed
[18:54] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: alright post the driver in use and the product line.
[18:54] <PyroPhelia> histo, sounds like you need to create an ipchain.  I'm not 100% if that's true, but that's where I would look first
[18:55]  * antivirtel is away: ~
[18:55] <schiz0id_>   *-multimedia
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        description: Audio device
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        product: SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        physical id: 14.2
[18:55] <FloodBot4> schiz0id_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        bus info: pci@0000:00:14.2
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        version: 00
[18:55] <histo> PyroPhelia: couldn't I do it with virtual hosts?
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        width: 64 bits
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        clock: 33MHz
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
[18:55] <geekphreak> schiz0id_: pastebin plz
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=64 module=snd_hda_intel
[18:55] <schiz0id_>   *-multimedia
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        description: Multimedia audio controller
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        product: CM8738
[18:55] <schiz0id_>        vendor: C-Media Electronics Inc
[18:55] <StevePutnam> Any idea what would make my ubuntu unlock screen say "checking", and I am sure i entered my password correctly, It will timeout about 5 mins later and let me enter my password again??
[18:55] <jrib> bots...
[18:55] <Sachse_Siechtum> does miro tv play youtube videos?
[18:55] <thevishy> ok jnb , the issue is proper install didnt work well ( its a pxe setup ) maybe a slight error in the archive ...so i have some faulty packages but a n ice OS
[18:55] <sorin7486> so anybody got an idea why I can't get my proxy to work on a fresh 9.10 install ???
[18:55] <Sachse_Siechtum> I just installed miro tv and it shows the youtube site...but no video
[18:55] <PyroPhelia> histo, yes.  you could create an acl based on your subnet.  but what if somebody from the outside is using the same subnet?
[18:55] <schiz0id> ok I
[18:55] <jrib> !away > antivirtel
[18:56] <schiz0id> sorry
[18:56] <PyroPhelia> er..wait that wouldn't make sense
[18:56] <sorin7486> actually get ffx to work with a proxy
[18:56] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: what is the pc brand?
[18:56] <zorton> 10.04 beta1 -> beta2 changelog?
[18:56] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: Acer
[18:56] <crucialhoax> !lucid | zorton
[18:56] <PyroPhelia> histo, it's possible.  I've just never done it before
[18:56] <servvs> histo: so you have the server at home, and the domain is from godaddy right? then in godaddy you can make subdomains for free I think and when you resolve it to your host set it to a different folder with the .htaccess file
[18:56] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: one sec :)
[18:56] <zorton> k, thanks
[18:56] <schiz0id> kk
[18:57] <epaphus> PyroPhelia, thanks
[18:57] <PyroPhelia> epaphus, yw
[18:57] <crucialhoax> laptop?
[18:57] <TorChimp> Does anyone know of a script that would dump users from LDAP to the local machine - want to decommision a halfassed LDAP setup back to local accounts for now.
[18:57] <andrew__> Is there any way to move a certain window to a certain workspace?
[18:57] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: desktop
[18:57] <crucialhoax> errm, ok.
[18:57] <jrib> andrew__: you mean with a command or automatically?
[18:57] <schiz0id> is that a problem?
[18:58] <andrew__> jrib: Command. I want to have a launcher on the top bar to open a vbox VM in workspace 4, basically.
[18:58] <crucialhoax> no i assume too much info ;)
[18:58] <TorChimp> Does anyone know of a script that would dump users from LDAP to the local machine - want to decommision a halfassed LDAP setup back to local accounts for now.
[18:58] <schiz0id> oh ok
[18:59] <jrib> andrew__: well the answer to your question is wmctrl, but I'm not sure if that does what you want.  Check out devilspie too
[18:59] <sorin7486> so any clue why ffx wouldn't work with the proxy even thought the network is up and running ?
[18:59] <vinnym3> join smuxi
[18:59] <andrew__> jrib: Looks like it does, let's test!
[18:59] <sorin7486> works fine in windows
[19:00] <histo> PyroPhelia: but the person outside requesting woulnd't have the same ip as my internal subnet
[19:00] <theadmin> Uh. Help me out please. I need to create a new sound theme. How?
[19:00] <thevishy> i am getting failed to fetch ...http://192.168.0.102://pool/p/..... error
[19:01] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: any ideas?
[19:01] <thevishy> ofcourse looks like my local mirror doesnt have those files
[19:01] <jrib> thevishy: look at the url
[19:01] <andrew__> jrib: Not sure about this, the desktop listings only shows the one :/
[19:01] <dr3mro> please when i use ( time -f "%E" du /etc/hosts ) i get the error "-f: command not found"
[19:02] <thevishy> which is the URL buddy
[19:02] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: It looks like the module that is loaded needs to be configured. there are bugs filed. one sec looking for solution. 9.10?
[19:02] <alphaelectric> Hi there
[19:02] <jrib> andrew__: you're using compiz?
[19:02] <thevishy> see i am giving the local IP .... now I need to change to official mirror perhaps
[19:02] <jrib> thevishy: read after the ip
[19:02] <andrew__> jrib: I am indeed
[19:02] <StevePutnam> ﻿Any idea what would make my ubuntu unlock screen say "checking", and I am sure i entered my password correctly, It will timeout about 5 mins later and let me enter my password again??
[19:03] <alphaelectric> Anybody with the nightingale / songbird fork ?
[19:03] <jrib> andrew__: see what happens if you just ask to place a window with an x value larger than the width of your first workspace
[19:03] <andrew__> jrib: Eh?
[19:03] <sorin7486> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[19:03] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: 9.04
[19:03] <crucialhoax> ok
[19:04] <thevishy> jnb : that IP is my local clan computer IP
[19:04] <BloodyChef> Hello
[19:04] <jrib> andrew__: you can position the window with x,y coordinates.  So say your first workspace has width 800, ask to place the window at 850 and see where it goes
[19:04] <StevePutnam> ﻿Any idea what would make my ubuntu unlock screen say "checking", and I am sure i entered my password correctly, It will timeout about 5 mins later and let me enter my password again??
[19:04] <BloodyChef> Can anyone help me?
[19:04] <crucialhoax> check pm
[19:04] <switch10_> anyone know of a good RSS feed reader that supports google reader, and also integrates well with gnome?
[19:04] <jrib> thevishy: do you visit many websites with URLs like www.domain.com://whatever?
[19:04] <crucialhoax> BloodyChef: What is your question?
[19:05] <thevishy> yeah i do  that a lot
[19:05] <jrib> thevishy: you're the one asking for help
[19:05] <dr3mro> please when i use ( time -f "%E" du /etc/hosts ) i get the error "-f: command not found"
[19:05] <StevePutnam> ﻿Any idea what would make my ubuntu unlock screen say "checking", and I am sure i entered my password correctly, It will timeout about 5 mins later and let me enter my password again??
[19:05] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: how do I check pm in irssi?
[19:05] <sorin7486> guys ... can anybody help me ?
[19:05] <thevishy> jnb , its like the installation is happening through my local computer lan
[19:05] <sorin7486> this is getting really frustrating
[19:05] <overmind> schiz0id: /window <numer>
[19:06] <crucialhoax> nevermind lol
[19:06] <thevishy> and hence the mirror is configured as my local computer IP ....
[19:06] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: We are going to need to edit the alsa-base.conf file
[19:06] <thevishy> so apt-get tries to fetch it from the local ip://pool/p/directory
[19:06] <schiz0id> YAY FILE EDITING!!!!!!!!!!
[19:06] <schiz0id> kk what do I need to do?
[19:06] <sorin7486> ....
[19:06] <sorin7486> :(
[19:06] <BloodyChef> Well, I boot from my CD drive, get the Ubuntu screen appear successfully (with the try before install optiosn etc.), but when i try to install, all i get is a flashing cursor, as for many of the other options.
[19:07] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: open a terminal
[19:07] <StevePutnam> ﻿Any idea what would make my ubuntu unlock screen say "checking", and I am sure i entered my password correctly, It will timeout about 5 mins later and let me enter my password again??
[19:07] <jrib> thevishy: that's not a proper url.  It would be something like http://ip/pool/whatever
[19:07] <schiz0id> done
[19:07] <sayanriju> switch10_, liferhea?
[19:07] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: type gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[19:07] <thevishy> okay , sorry thats right jnb , my problem is now I no longer need the local mirror
[19:07] <jrib> thevishy: anyway, I already said, if you have a botched install, redo the install
[19:07] <BloodyChef> anyone have a solution?
[19:07] <thevishy> i can install the rest through the internet official site , how do I update source.list
[19:07] <switch10_> sayanriju: thanks, ill check it out.
[19:08] <sayanriju> switch10_, sorry typo : its liferea
[19:08] <thevishy> jnb i dont have a bothed OS installation , its just that apt couldnt fetch some files freom local server
[19:08] <StevePutnam> ﻿Any idea what would make my ubuntu unlock screen say "checking", and I am sure i entered my password correctly, It will timeout about 5 mins later and let me enter my password again??
[19:08] <thevishy> now If i replace source.list to use official ubuntu lucid beta 1 page then it will install fine
[19:08] <BloodyChef> Well, I boot from my CD drive, get the Ubuntu screen appear successfully (with the try before install optiosn etc.), but when i try to install, all i get is a flashing cursor, as for many of the other options.
[19:08] <jrib> thevishy: do a proper install
[19:08] <BloodyChef> anyone know why it isn't installing?#
[19:08] <thevishy> i hope u get my point , even if I reinstall , I have to use the same local server .....
[19:09] <jrib> thevishy: why?
[19:09] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: sorry didn't mean to quit
[19:09] <crucialhoax> its all good lol
[19:09] <thevishy> jnb : the internet installation will take a lot of time , i have a iso locally
[19:09] <schiz0id> crap have to switch user again
[19:09] <schiz0id> brb
[19:09] <thevishy> i dont have a ultra fast net to do a net installation ....atleast the OS part
[19:10] <thevishy> the packages I can install from net ....only problem is source.list is configured to use my local computer
[19:10] <jrib> thevishy: the regular ubuntu cd doesn't need to download things
[19:10] <BloodyChef> I boot from my CD drive, get the Ubuntu screen appear successfully (with the try before install optiosn etc.), but when i try to install, all i get is a flashing cursor, as for many of the other options.
[19:10] <BloodyChef> can anyone help :(
[19:10] <thevishy> jnb : some software packages didnt get install thats it
[19:10] <thevishy> maybe corrupt but OS is very fine
[19:10] <crucialhoax> BloodyChef: It might be the video card is not supported.
[19:10] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: ok back
[19:10] <crucialhoax> hello
[19:10] <schiz0id> what was that file again?
[19:11] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: type gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[19:11] <StevePutnam> ﻿Any idea what would make my ubuntu unlock screen say "checking", and I am sure i entered my password correctly, It will timeout about 5 mins later and let me enter my password again??
[19:11] <schiz0id> ok hold on
[19:11] <crucialhoax> alright
[19:11] <thevishy> i.e apt didnt go smoothly ,if I install  ubuntu-desktop as u said I am all done !
[19:11] <jrib> thevishy: I recommend you do a proper install. If you want to ignore my advice, just change "ip" to "archive.ubuntu.com" or whatever mirror you want
[19:11] <BloodyChef> crucialhoax: Any solution, i've used a different linux distro before
[19:11] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: I will let you know what to edit inside that file.
[19:11] <thevishy> but for this source.list need to use the official lucid beta 1 mirror
[19:11] <flinx> I am unable to install subversion on Xubuntu 9.10 (fresh install). I have already ensured that the universe repositories are enabled, and I'm running out of ideas.
[19:11] <crucialhoax> BloodyChef: Is it only ubuntu that does this?
[19:11] <BloodyChef> crucialhoax: Yes
[19:11] <schiz0id> mkay what line(s) do I need to change/add?
[19:12] <crucialhoax> BloodyChef: Hm.
[19:12] <BloodyChef> crucialhoax: Even now, it's just sitting there _ blinking, nothing happening
[19:12] <sayanriju> BloodyChef, try checking the cd for errors
[19:12] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: The easiest way is to CTRL + F to find this: power_save_
[19:12] <thevishy> the reason I dont want to reinstall is that this is a ultra old laptop , and it heats up very fast ...so I am lucky it stood the installation this time around
[19:12] <BloodyChef> sayanrju: I can't, that option gives the same interface, just the blinking _
[19:12] <tassos> Hi everyone, I need a bit of help compiling emacs....
[19:12] <thevishy> jnb : where do I change that ? and what would be exact address of lucid 1 beta files
[19:12] <sayanriju> BloodyChef, duh! :(
[19:13] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: "phrase not found"
[19:13] <jrib> tassos: do not compile emacs.  There :)  But really, you shouldn't since emacs is in the repositories.  Use APT
[19:13] <jrib> thevishy: #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[19:13] <BloodyChef> sayanrju, so that would implythe cd is broken?
[19:13] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: towards the bottom of the file
[19:13] <thevishy> ok
[19:13] <tassos> Well, the thing is, I want to compile it in  order to learn....
[19:13] <Kuifje111> does anyone know why the cpu usage in 'top' is in the %MEM row?
[19:13] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: add this line
[19:13] <schiz0id> where do I add it?
[19:14] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: I am going to post 2 different lines. add it to the very bottom of that file. ok?
[19:14] <schiz0id> mkay
[19:14] <BloodyChef> sayanriju, so that means, my cd is broken?
[19:14] <crucialhoax> # Power down HDA controllers after 10 idle seconds
[19:14] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: I have edited files before. I do have *some* idea what I'm doing
[19:14] <schiz0id> just fyi
[19:14] <raubvogel> Is /etc/ldap/ldap.conf still used in 10.4 or some other file does the job?
[19:14] <StevePutnam> ﻿Any idea what would make my ubuntu unlock screen say "checking", and I am sure i entered my password correctly, It will timeout about 5 mins later and let me enter my password again??
[19:15] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: options snd-hda-intel power_save=0 power_save_controller=N
[19:15] <sayanriju> BloodyChef, could be
[19:15] <jrib> tassos: learn what?
[19:15] <jrib> !who | tassos
[19:15] <crucialhoax> BloodyChef: did you check the md5 of your download?
[19:15] <BloodyChef> sayanriju, i'll try re burning one, thank you for your help.
[19:15] <BloodyChef> crucialhoax: No, how do i do that?
[19:15] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: is that one line?
[19:15] <crucialhoax> !md5 | BloodyChef
[19:16] <tassos> learn....to compile properly, I want to do LFS
[19:16] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: sorry let me re-do :)
[19:16] <sayanriju> BloodyChef, if you have downloaded an .iso, plz run a md5sum check on it before burning on a cd
[19:16] <schiz0id> kk
[19:16] <jrib> !compile > tassos
[19:16] <crucialhoax> Line 1 : # Power down HDA controllers after 10 idle seconds
[19:16] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: Line 1 : # Power down HDA controllers after 10 idle seconds
[19:17] <StevePutnam> ﻿Any idea what would make my ubuntu unlock screen say "checking", and I am sure i entered my password correctly, It will timeout about 5 mins later and let me enter my password again??
[19:17] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: next line?
[19:17] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: Line 2: options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N
[19:17] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: that should be 0 not 10 sorry
[19:17] <schiz0id> ok hold on
[19:17] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: options snd-hda-intel power_save=0 power_save_controller=N
[19:17] <schiz0id> yep
[19:17] <schiz0id> got it
[19:17] <schiz0id> now just save and reboot?
[19:17] <discozohan> Hello! One question - can i install now 10.04 and then upgrade to final release, or its better to wait for this release ? Will be any difference ?
[19:17] <crucialhoax> got it!
[19:18] <crucialhoax> lol
[19:18] <schiz0id> cool thanks so much man
[19:18] <crucialhoax> im crossing my fingers lol
[19:18] <erUSUL> !final | discozohan
[19:18] <schiz0id> my parents have been hounding me about this for forever
[19:18] <BloodyChef> sayraniju, is that incase it didn't download all the data?
[19:18] <schiz0id> kk brb with update
[19:18] <crucialhoax> alright
[19:18] <discozohan> thanks -.-
[19:18] <Urda> discozohan: are you running 9.10 now?
[19:18] <servvs> is lucid stable right now?
[19:18] <jenue> hi guys, how can i connect my host to guest os (ubuntu) in virtualbox?
, yeah -.- but i'm going to make installation on clean PC
[19:19] <erUSUL> servvs: #ubuntu+1
[19:19] <StevePutnam> well i guess no one has seen my problem before!
[19:19] <crucialhoax> StevePutnam: Use the time waiting for an answer to do some research
[19:19] <StevePutnam> lol
[19:20] <StevePutnam> i been researching, that is how i ended up here.
[19:20] <servvs> oh its final is at the end of the month, might as well wait for it
[19:20] <jenue> i need help in connecting my ubuntu host to my virtualbox guest os ubuntu. i can't ping the guest os
[19:20] <crucialhoax> does it reject your password everytime?
[19:21] <Urda> discozohan: I mean it comes out in what 20 days...
[19:21] <StevePutnam> no, it just says "checking" until it times out
[19:21] <Urda> StevePutnam: what is the issue?
[19:21] <crucialhoax> jenue: If the host is connected to a network then virtual os will have one too. Is the host using a firewall?
[19:21] <StevePutnam> ﻿Any idea what would make my ubuntu unlock screen say "checking", and I am sure i entered my password correctly, It will timeout about 5 mins later and let me enter my password again??
[19:22] <crucialhoax> and after it times out does it work after that?
[19:22] <crucialhoax> your password I am referring to
[19:22] <StevePutnam> crucialhoax.. yes
[19:22] <jenue> crucialhoax: no
[19:22] <blue-frog> jenue, can't ping when using NAT. as designed
[19:22] <crucialhoax> StevePutnam: So fails first time, works second time?
[19:23] <StevePutnam> curcialhoax, that is correct, and it only does this about once a month.
[19:23] <blue-frog> jenue, use hostnetworking if you want to ping. You can use ssh with NAT though or other things
[19:23] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: bad news
[19:23] <crucialhoax> StevePutnam: Maybe try changing the password? Since it is so infrequent it is hard to tell.
[19:23] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: it does not work
[19:24] <crucialhoax> argm
[19:24] <crucialhoax> arghh
[19:24] <schiz0id> startup music........still no internet
[19:24] <flinx> how do I install svn when sudo apt-get install subversion does not work?
[19:24] <crucialhoax> so the start up sound plays?
[19:24] <StevePutnam> crucialhoax-- I have changed my password
[19:24] <jrib> flinx: expand on "does not work"
[19:24] <crucialhoax> StevePutnam: Hmmm
[19:24] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: the first one does, meaning the one before login, but not the one after login
[19:24] <flinx> jrib, the subversion package is not found, running Xubuntu 9.10
[19:24] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: any music files?
[19:25] <schiz0id> I can hook up my ipod
[19:25] <schiz0id> hold on
[19:25] <jrib> flinx: run « sudo apt-get update » and try again.  If it still fails, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list*
[19:26] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: nope
[19:26] <schiz0id> not working
[19:26] <gizmobay> Is there a way to tell when a motherboard is going bad? I control my tv on and off with a serial port. The serial card is aftermarket. Came back from out of town and it just stopped working on it's own. Moved it to a different pci slot and it still didn't worked. Moved it to my home ubuntu PC and it did work. Moved it back to my tv computer and it then started working yet none of my USB ports would work. Rebooted and now everything works.
[19:26] <gizmobay>  Strange.
[19:27] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: Ok...
[19:27] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: what else could the problem be?
[19:28] <xampp> is there a video related channel on this irc network ?
[19:28] <crucialhoax> I am using the same driver as you for sound. so we are close.
[19:28] <schiz0id> so do you have any ideas then?
[19:28] <Pici> xampp: You mean for video production?
[19:29] <xampp> that too
[19:29] <psychedeliverse> in compiz, where you see "buttonX" how would i determin what keys those are?
[19:29] <crucialhoax> maybe. I will google some more. I will fid something :)
[19:29] <Pici> xampp: I'm not sure, check /msg alis help list   for searching for channels.
[19:29] <discozohan> After connecting to VPN, it replaces default gateway, and my internet connection becomes unavailable. Is there any good info how can i avoid it ?
[19:29] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: thanks. tell me when and if you do
[19:29] <Mic-R> I've got a question concerning bug #1, that is "Microsoft has a majority market share"
[19:30] <Mic-R> Why did you chose this?
[19:30]  * kiuy-y is away: I'm busy
[19:30] <Pici> !away > kiuy-y
[19:30] <Mic-R> Wouldn't something like "Best Apple in usuability" more target-aimed
[19:30] <trappist> I've created a new user, and for some reason his processes are listed in ps by his uid, not his username.  this is giving me some permissions issues.  /etc/passwd looks right, where else should I look to resolve this?
[19:31] <Mic-R> Having marketshare doesn't necessarily mean that you're good at something
[19:31] <Pici> Mic-R: This isn't really a discussion channel. Try #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-bugs maybe
[19:31] <Mic-R> Pici: ok, thanks
[19:32] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: On your sound configuration choose analog stereo, not HDMI.
[19:32] <flinx> jrib, I'm working on getting that pastebin, the update && upgrade has pretty much bogged down my entire system
[19:32] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: where?
[19:33] <crucialhoax> are you using gnome or kde/
[19:33] <mrwes> jrib, isn't subversion in the MAIN repo?
[19:33] <FallenSparrow> anyone using ssd for dual boot currently
[19:34] <Kuifje111> anyone knows why %MEM is switched with %CPU? http://i.imagehost.org/0595/top-weirdness.png
[19:34] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: gnome or kde?
[19:34] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: gnome
[19:34] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: there is a speaker in the upper right hand corner, right click and choose preferences
[19:35] <Slart> Kuifje111: are you sure it is? it looks right to me
[19:35] <Kuifje111> Slart: the cpu usage is listed under %MEM.
[19:35] <schiz0id> mkay
[19:35] <uRock> How wold I write the command to install 2 programs at once? say thunderbird and ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[19:35] <schiz0id> hold on afk
[19:36] <jenue> blue-frog: how did u network ur host and the guest os?
[19:36] <BloodyChef> can i set up a network with one ubuntu server, much like a windows network?
[19:36] <nullkuhl> General Question: is it possible to run 32 bit applications on a 64bit ubuntu ?
[19:36] <crucialhoax> nullkuhl: yes
[19:36] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: now what?
[19:36] <Slart> Kuifje111: well.. if you say so.. (still looks right to me)
[19:36] <schiz0id> I see some options and a device menu
[19:36] <nullkuhl> crucialhoax: is that possible on all ubuntu versions or only the latest ones ?
[19:37] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: click on the hardware tab and towards the bottom by "profile" what set it to Analog
[19:37] <Kuifje111> Slart: how does it look right to you?
[19:37] <crucialhoax> nullkuhl: on all x64bit versions
[19:37] <Pici> Kuifje111: Looks right to me too.  Look at rtorrent's memory usage values 168mb is quite a bit.
[19:37] <Slart> Kuifje111: lots of processes using 0% cpu but small amount of memory.. seems very reasonable.. compared to what you get if you switch them around..
[19:37] <jenue> how can i network my host ubuntu with my virtualbox guest ubuntu?
[19:37] <flinx> mrwes, it is supposed to be in the main repo
[19:38] <antivirtel> hello, I have opened something in file-roller(zip opener) and the contrained files have special chars, like: áéúóüöí, and It can't open it :S:S, what can i do ???
[19:38] <Kuifje111> Pici: let me get an htop screenshot for you then. it will show the total cpu usage which doesnt corespond with the %CPU row.
[19:39] <flinx> in fact i installed it on a Ubuntu (not Xubuntu) two days ago without issue. the problem is that this PC really needs the XFCE because it is old and even then I might remove X entirely.
[19:39] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: no hardware tab
[19:39] <schiz0id> afk again
[19:39] <discozohan> does ubuntu have any gui to work with routes ?
[19:39] <crucialhoax> flinx: Xubuntu is not as light as it is perceived. Try Lubuntu :)
[19:39] <Maranatha|G1> Hello. I need help getting wifi enabled on my compaq presario v5000 running ubuntu remix 9.10
[19:39] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: Ok. What tabs are there?
[19:40] <flinx> crucialhoax, oooo handy XD I didn't know about that one before
[19:40] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: none. just a dropdown menu and a list of options like LFE and side
[19:40] <schiz0id> oh and on the control
[19:40] <schiz0id> I have
[19:40] <flinx> crucialhoax, given that a simple upgrade pretty much killed the box I'll have to re install XD
[19:40] <schiz0id> Recording, switches, options and sound theme
[19:40] <crucialhoax> flinx: google Lubuntu lol
[19:41] <flinx> jrib, here is the pastebin
[19:41] <flinx> http://pastebin.com/w2ZEG8vN
[19:41] <flinx> crucialhoax, thanks? XD
[19:41] <KettleCorn> Can I install Ubuntu server 64-bit on an Intel D945GSEJT? It has a standard Atom N270 CPU. I'm trying to install but it's saying something about x86-64 and the CPU being i686. Does this mean it has to be 32-bit?
[19:41] <jenda> I have an external USB harddrive. It does not mount when plugged in even though it used to. Is there a way to manually run the automatic mounting script/program?
[19:41] <trappist> I've created a new user, and for some reason his processes are listed in ps by his uid, not his username.  this is giving me some permissions issues.  /etc/passwd looks right, where else should I look to resolve this?
[19:41] <crucialhoax> flinx: Good luck :)
[19:41] <Kuifje111> Pici: http://i.imagehost.org/0813/htop-weirdness.png
[19:41] <flinx> crucialhoax, hehe thanks
[19:42] <switch10_> jenda: sudo mount -a
[19:42] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: So no tabs? hmmm...
[19:42] <schiz0id> yep
[19:42] <switch10_> jenda: that will mount all
[19:42] <antivirtel> how can I fix the encode errors in file-roller ?
[19:42] <schiz0id> afk again
[19:42] <crucialhoax> afk?
[19:42] <antivirtel> away from keyboard
[19:42] <Kuifje111> Pici: also take a look at the RAM bar.
[19:42] <crucialhoax> duh
[19:42] <crucialhoax> oops
[19:42] <Pici> Kuifje111: What if you sort by CPU? F6 is the hotkey
[19:43] <flinx> jrib, it looks like it's working now. Apparently synaptic failed to run the update when I added the other repo's >< but when I run from a command line everything installs correctly now XD
[19:43] <schiz0id> back
[19:43] <schiz0id> for a second or two
[19:43] <jenda> switch10_: and if that doesn't work? :)
[19:43] <Kuifje111> Pici: it stays the same, but when I restart it it moves down, because it doesnt use most RAM.
[19:43] <schiz0id> afk again sorry I'm busy
[19:44] <antivirtel> !away
[19:44] <jenda> switch10_: apparently, somethig is wrong. The LEDs on the disk light up when plugged into the USB
[19:44] <TommyThaGun> next question: why do I get about 10 of these errors in my log file every time I boot? "Apr  9 14:35:53 spidersense init: kdm main process ended, respawning
[19:44] <TommyThaGun> Apr  9 14:35:53 spidersense init: kdm main process (1182) terminated with status 1"
[19:44] <switch10_> jenda: you tried it and it didn't work?
[19:44] <jenda> switch10_: yep
[19:44] <TommyThaGun> when I don't have kdm installed
[19:44] <switch10_> jenda: it is ntfs?
[19:44] <federico> hi, anyone uses aptana on ubuntu 64?
[19:45] <federico> i'm asking because i'm surprised by the 300mb of ram it takes to run
[19:45] <schiz0id> ok back
[19:45] <schiz0id> what to do?
[19:45] <federico> maybe i did something wrong on the installation
[19:46] <switch10_> jenda: is it listed in sudo fdisk -l or lsusb?
[19:46] <thevishy> ebay.com
[19:46] <jenda> switch10_: it's EXT3 and FAT32
[19:46] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: I found a few more. We can try them I suppose
[19:46] <schiz0id> afk again
[19:47] <jenda> switch10_: I can see it in gparted, but cannot mount it from there
[19:47] <jim__> running 9.10, my password for the wireless keeps getting deleted after a cold reboot, how can I make it remember the password?
[19:47] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: It states that the settings are for a laptop, hopefully it does not matter.
[19:47] <switch10_> jenda: ok so it is recognized..  did you get an error when you ran sudo mount -a?
[19:47] <jenda> switch10_: nope
[19:47] <crucialhoax> jim__: Did you use a password for the keyring to store the wireless password?
[19:48] <Pici> Kuifje111: Its possible that a kernel thread is using up cpu.  You can use the capital K key to toggle that in htop.  Also U to toggle user processes.
[19:48] <crucialhoax> jim__: Or did you use "unsafe storage"?
[19:48] <switch10_> jenda: can you access it from the "places" menu?
[19:48] <idioteque> hello world, i just upgraded to 10.04 and im unable to get ATI drivers working for my 4200 :S, can anyone suggest me a driver or any tweak that will work?
[19:48] <schiz0id> ok I'm back
[19:48] <jim__> yes crucialhoax , but after cold reboot it looses password crucialhoax
[19:48] <schiz0id> what was the idea?
[19:49] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: More file editing lol
[19:49] <switch10_> !lucid
[19:49] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: what file and what to do to it?
[19:49] <meindian523> !lucid | idioteque
[19:49] <jenda> switch10_: nope
[19:49] <aspid_asm> have a good time. did someone use l2tp?
[19:49] <jenda> switch10_: no error with mount -a, but the disk isn't mounted
[19:49] <federico> hi, i just installed aptana studio on my ubuntu 9.10 64bits, and im shocked by it's memory consume (300mb ram) Is this normal?
[19:50] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[19:50] <jenda> switch10_: I can mount it manually
[19:50] <jenda> switch10_: although I wanted to avoid that :)
[19:50] <switch10_> jenda:  how do you mean manually?
[19:50] <Slart> federico: isn't that some kind of big IDE for RAD? 300Mb ram doesn't sound so bad for that
[19:51] <crucialhoax> jim__: which one?
[19:51] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: what to do to it?
[19:51] <switch10_> jenda: you want it mounted on startup?
[19:51] <federico> no, it's and ide but for web design
[19:51] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: We are going to add 3 lines to the bottom of it
[19:51] <bsmith093> hi is this the normal support channel i would get if i created a new ircaccount using pidgin
[19:51] <HikayuAkira> Sup
[19:51] <federico> still, it's a lot of memory
[19:51] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: what are those lines?
[19:51] <switch10_> jenda: if so edit /etc/fstab
[19:51] <meindian523> federico, normal, I'm running at 271 megs with Xchat and compiz and tiny stuff
[19:51] <bsmith093> irc.ubuntu.com #ubuntu
[19:51] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
[19:52] <schiz0id> kk hold on
[19:52] <jenda> switch10_: I want it mounted when it's plugged in. I had to type "sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /media/disk"
[19:52] <schiz0id> next line?
[19:52] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
[19:52] <guntbert> bsmith093: thats where you are talking right now.  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:52] <Aut0ExeC> sup fellas... anyone know how to use tcpdump?
[19:52] <coachj> can someone tell me the difference in Transmission and Transmission-qt bit torrent clients?
[19:52] <meindian523> jenda, are you using Lucid?
[19:52] <switch10_> jenda: yes, so it is being mounted....  and you want to automate that correct?
[19:53] <Slart> coachj: transmission-qt is probably a gui for transmission
[19:53] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: and the last line?
[19:53] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: options snd-hda-intel model=hp-hdx
[19:53] <schiz0id> last line?
[19:53] <bsmith093> yes i do i accidentally deleted my open pgp key pair because lucid crashed anyway its gone is there any way to remove it from the keyservers
[19:53] <Slart> !info transmission-qt | coachj
[19:53] <switch10_> jenda: you need to make an entry for it in /etc/fstab to have it mount on boot.
[19:53] <meindian523> coachj, ....more compatible with KDE I guess
[19:53] <coachj> Slart: thks
[19:54] <Aut0ExeC> is tcpdump used for only traffic going to and from your pc or remote pc's as well?
[19:54] <amos> Aut0ExeC: http://danielmiessler.com/study/tcpdump/
[19:54] <schiz0id> sorry about that
[19:54] <coachj> meindian523: which is more comp w/KDE
[19:54] <schiz0id> what's the last line?
[19:54] <meindian523> coachj, Qt
[19:54] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: that is all
[19:54] <schiz0id> you said three lines
[19:54] <coachj> thks just wondering
[19:54] <Maranatha> I need some help getting my ethernet card working for a compaq persario v5000 running ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 It tells me device is not ready
[19:54] <Marco>  if I download the source and build a package with "apt-get source -b package-name" and then install it with "dpkg -i" will it be overwritten if I do an "apt-get upgrade" ?
[19:54] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: I sent 3 lines..
[19:54] <Slart> Aut0ExeC: you could set it to look at all traffic that is "passing" your computer.. if your computer is acting as a router you'll be able to see traffic going through it
[19:54] <guntbert> bsmith093: does that help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Revoking%20a%20keypair
[19:54] <schiz0id> no you sent snd-card-0
[19:55] <schiz0id> and snd-slot-0
[19:55] <Aut0ExeC> Slart: no no router...
[19:55] <Pici> Marco: Only if something with a newer version is offered.
[19:55] <schiz0id> what was the third one?
[19:55] <Aut0ExeC> Slart: just my pc
[19:55] <Losha> Aut0ExeC: tcpdump will report on any/all packets it sees on the network segment you're on, if you configure it correctly...
[19:55] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: options snd-hda-intel model=hp-hdx
[19:55] <Marco> Pici, is there a way for me to keep a package that I installed?
[19:55] <Slart> Aut0ExeC: then you'll only see traffic going to and from your computer (unless you've got some weird network setup)
[19:55] <bsmith093> i never created a revocation certificate (whatever that means) but i also never actually used this keypair anyway so is it ok to just leave it on ther server
[19:55] <Aut0ExeC> Slart: ok Losha told me something else
[19:55] <Pici> Marco: Take a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[19:55] <jenda> switch10_: actually, after mounting it once, unmounting, unplugging and plugging in, it mounts automatically again.
[19:56] <Slart> Aut0ExeC: not really
[19:56] <Marco> Pici, thanks
[19:56] <jenda> so problem solved, I guess
[19:56] <Aut0ExeC> Slart: so basically only traffic going to and from my pc correct?
[19:56] <Slart> Aut0ExeC: probably, yes
[19:56] <Aut0ExeC> Slart: cuz i'm seeing traffic going to and from other computers on the network
[19:56] <Aut0ExeC> Slart: weird
[19:56] <realubot> How do I know what ip addresses a web hosting company use?
[19:57] <schiz0id> kk rebooting
[19:57] <crucialhoax> alright
[19:57] <Aut0ExeC> realubot: look on their website?
[19:57] <Losha> Aut0ExeC: Slart and I are saying the same thing. You can see any packets on the bit of wire you're connected to. It just depends who else is on that segment...
[19:57] <FunkySayu>  /j #my_test_bot_chan
[19:57] <FunkySayu> oups
[19:57] <FunkySayu> sry
[19:57] <xampp> im having trouble playing some video recordings !
[19:58] <idioteque> hello world, i just upgraded to 10.04 and im unable to get ATI drivers working for my 4200 :S, can anyone suggest me a driver or any tweak that will work? i tried the +1 channel but no one is alive there..
[19:58] <jenda> switch10_: thanks for your time :)
[19:58] <Losha> xampp: which recordings, which player, which os version?
[19:58] <Aut0ExeC> Losha: scenerio.... i'm 192.168.1.100 and someone else is 192.168.1.101.. can i sniff 192.168.1.101's packets? leaving to and from that pc?
[19:58] <switch10_> realubot: ping the machine using their domain name, it will give you external IP
[19:58] <switch10_> jenda: anytime..
[19:58] <blip-> hi, I made a forum post about rsync-backup scripts that is dieing... this is a last ditch effort to get people to read and give me some input before it disappears forever.     Maybe the post is too long so few bothered to read it... it doesn't strike me as a difficult question.   anyway here it is:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1450660
[19:58] <crucialhoax> realubot: Use host <insert website here>
[19:59] <crucialhoax> realubot:  in the terminal of course
[19:59] <sekh> hi
[19:59] <xampp> i could only get the picutre using klight codec pack
[19:59] <Losha> Aut0ExeC: As long as .101 is using the same physical wire as .100 you'll be able to see each others packets...
[19:59] <xampp> the sound didnt work
[20:00] <xampp> is there an error resilent player ?
[20:00] <Vince> Hi, I'm vince I'm using ubuntu notebook remix and really love it
[20:00] <sekh> I have some problem with ubuntu and us-intl, I cant use accents in, by example, xterm, any ideas ?
[20:00] <Aut0ExeC> Losha: lol ur killing me dude... lol "physical wire" = same switch?
[20:00] <Vince> except the fact that my desktop isn't showing up anymore
[20:00] <crucialhoax> lol
[20:00] <Aut0ExeC> Losha: or crossover cable?
[20:01] <Vince> I installed nautilus and it keeps crashing my gnome desktop (notebook-remix)
[20:01] <Losha> Aut0ExeC: sorry, not trying to be obscure, it depends on the details of the switch but it will probably work. Best is to just try it...
[20:01] <Aut0ExeC> Losha: ok thanx
[20:01] <KettleCorn> Anyone know how Ubuntu/Linux uses all the /, /home and other folders? I'm building a small server with a compact flash main OS drive, and two hard drives in a RAID1, and I want to make sure they spin down when not used. What can I put on these? Can I put the /home dir on them? Or will that make sure that they are always spinning?
[20:01] <Vince> so I uninstalled nautlius
[20:02] <Aut0ExeC> Losha: switched are smart and dont broadcast traffic to the whole network segment... but hubs do..
[20:02] <Vince> and guess what my whole desktop crashed
[20:02] <Aut0ExeC> Losha: but thanks i'll try
[20:02] <Vince> then i did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop the problem was fixed
[20:02] <realubot> crucialhoax: Ok, thanks.
[20:02] <Vince> but I hadn't still got my desktop
[20:02] <Vince> I only had the menu bar at the top with my icons
[20:02] <crucialhoax> crucialhoax: No problem
[20:03] <strange> !enter | enervis
[20:03] <Vince> I can open my terminal
[20:03] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[20:03] <Vince> and open other programs except the fact I don't have any kind of menu...
[20:03] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: still the same issue
[20:03] <b_> how to install GYACHI in LUCID BETA ... anyone??... SH doesnt work!!!
[20:03] <schiz0id> first sound plays, second one doesn't, no internet sound
[20:03] <ZykoticK9> b_, reask in lucid channel #ubuntu+1
[20:03] <guntbert> b_: lucid support in #ubuntu+1 please
[20:04] <switch10_> !lucid | b_
[20:04] <pkkm> How to minimize a fullscreen game?
[20:04] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: It has got to be a sound prefernce somewhere.
[20:04] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: what should I check first?
[20:04] <antivirtel> ubuntu developers, this is a VERY important problem in ubuntu, because of this thing, ubuntu is UNUSABLE for office: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/+bug/177929
[20:04] <antivirtel> PLEASE fix it!
[20:05] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: can you post a screenshot of your sound setting window into pastebin?
[20:05] <guntbert> antivirtel: you won't reach any developpers here :)
[20:05] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: yeah sure hold on
[20:05] <Aut0ExeC> last Killa
[20:05] <antivirtel> guntbert where can I reach they ?
[20:05] <switch10_> antivirtel: or you could fix it???
[20:05] <guntbert> antivirtel: via the bug report
[20:06] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: thanks
[20:06] <Vince> what's the channel of notebook remix ?
[20:06] <guntbert> switch10_: thats not really helpful, is it?
[20:06] <antivirtel> guntbert: bugreports, yes, but where ?
[20:06] <schiz0id> actually how do I pastebin images?
[20:06] <Slart> !pastebin | schiz0id
[20:07] <guntbert> antivirtel: you posted it yourself
[20:07] <Slart> schiz0id: see the imagebin thing? try that.. works the same way
[20:07] <Exposure548> schz0id: www.imageshack.us ? :)
[20:07] <jakubo> hi, does evolution have no minimize to tray ability?
[20:07] <jakubo> and no ability to get contacts from evolution?
[20:08] <switch10_> guntbert: I always wonder why people want others to fix things that effect them.  If we all work on fixing our own problems, this whole thing would work much better.
[20:08] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: http://imagebin.org/92393
[20:08] <antivirtel> guntbert "wrote on 2007-12-21"
[20:08] <jakubo> because some people are not able to fix things themselves
[20:08] <schiz0id> afk again
[20:08] <guntbert> switch10_: we can talk about that - but in #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
[20:09] <antivirtel> guntbert 2 years... it wasnt enough to fix it?!??!!
[20:09] <guntbert> antivirtel: this is no place for bug reports/bug discussions - welcome to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:10] <antivirtel> asd
[20:10] <schiz0id> ok I'm back
[20:10] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: did you get the link?
[20:11] <deven_> hello
[20:11] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: no
[20:11] <crucialhoax> yes
[20:11] <schiz0id> http://imagebin.org/92393
[20:11] <schiz0id> there
[20:12] <Slart> is there a way I can see which files are accessed using nfs on my local nfs server? lsof perhaps?
[20:12] <coachj> oh why oh why can't ubuntu support my Radon 9000 card as well as PClinuxOS does?
[20:12] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: what is under the devices tab?
[20:12] <schiz0id> hold on new screenshot
[20:12] <jelg> gosh it seems I have Erlang in my computer ... ;)
[20:12] <crucialhoax> you do need to send a screensht lol
[20:13] <schiz0id> http://imagebin.org/92394
[20:13] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: also, what shows up when you click the preferences button at the bottom?
[20:14] <schiz0id> crucialhoax: you see the small window open? that's it.
[20:14] <diddy> I need some help with my WLAN connection. Since a few hours ago my laptop doesn't have Internet access anymore.
[20:14] <adhorden> hi, for some reason gdm just loads into a login shell at the moment, any ideas where I start looking to find out how to get it back into gnome?
[20:14] <switch10_> diddy: can you ping 127.0.0.1?
[20:15] <crucialhoax> schiz0id: under the devices drop down try to 3rd and 5th options...
[20:15] <diddy> crucialhoax, yes I can
[20:15] <crucialhoax> diddy: you mean switch10_
[20:15] <diddy> I double, triple checked the preshared key and it is correct.
[20:15] <diddy> crucialhoax, yes, sorry
[20:16] <switch10_> diddy: can you ping other machines on you LAN?
[20:16] <TGP1994> Hi there everyone, I'm trying to get the php-mysql module working, but I'm having much difficulty with that I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 with Webmin, and here's my phpinfo():
[20:16] <TGP1994> http://tgpserv.no-ip.org/mapsuggestions.php
[20:16] <diddy> switch10_, no
[20:16] <Slart> TGP1994: webmin might not be a good idea
[20:16] <Slart> !webmin | TGP1994
[20:16] <TGP1994> Slart, works fine for me.
[20:16] <diddy> I can not get on the lan
[20:16] <TGP1994> I know.,
[20:16] <TGP1994> I dislike ebox
[20:16] <TGP1994> you can't do crap in it.
[20:16] <FloodBot4> TGP1994: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:16] <mari_> helo
[20:17] <mari_>  hi
[20:17] <mari_>  hi
[20:17] <TGP1994> But anyhow, can anyone help me?
[20:17] <mari_>  i have question
[20:17] <mari_> ?
[20:17] <KettleCorn> If I put a SWAP partition on my RAID1-array of two disks, will they always be spinning or can they be spun down after some inactivity?
[20:17] <holmser> is there a way to click on the notifications when someone is chatting with me so the chat window just pops up?
[20:17] <Slart> !ask | mari_
[20:17] <mari_>  czy jest tu ktos z polski?
[20:17] <Slart> !pl | mari_
[20:18] <switch10_> diddy: do you know the interface you are using?  usually eth0 or wlan0 etc
[20:18] <diddy> switch10_, eth1
[20:18] <switch10_> diddy: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[20:18] <switch10_> diddy: then try to ping a local machine
[20:19] <jack_> i hate ubottu
[20:19] <jack_> it keeps setting off my notification
[20:19] <TGP1994> Can anyone help me :S
[20:19] <switch10_> jack_: sounds like user error to me...
[20:19] <adhorden> what would cause gdm to fall back to a shell prompt? no errors for x etc
[20:19] <jorge_> hola a todos
[20:19] <jack_> switch10_: pebkec
[20:20] <crucialhoax> KettleCorn: Swap should not be used if the system has enough RAM. You should be safe.
[20:20] <switch10_> diddy: how is it coming?
[20:20] <TGP1994> So.... can anyone help me with my php problem?
[20:21] <Pici> TGP1994: Whats you're php problem?
[20:21] <diddy> switch10_, nothing
[20:21] <Pici> s/you're/your/
[20:21] <diddy> switch10_, did my wlan card die maybe?
[20:21] <TGP1994> I'm trying to get the php-mysql module working, but I'm having much difficulty with that I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 with Webmin, and here's my phpinfo():
[20:21] <pfifo> I have libgmp3c installed but I cannot find the associated libgmp3c-dev package that I would normally expect to have available. Im using 9.10, i need gmp.h for building php
[20:21] <switch10_> you can't ping a local machine?
[20:21] <switch10_> diddy: ^^
[20:21] <TGP1994> http://tgpserv.no-ip.org/mapsuggestions.php
[20:21] <lukasz1> Hi people
[20:21] <crucialhoax> diddy: Stupid question, but did it accidentally get turned off?
[20:22] <john522> hi, how do i get higher resolutions with a Intel integrated video card?
[20:22] <TGP1994> Pici; any ideas?
[20:22] <lukasz1> How do I configure a partition for windows in Ubuntu, and restore grub-pc afterwards?
[20:22] <diddy> crucialhoax, no it is on
[20:23] <switch10_> diddy: another stupid but necessary question, all the cables are securely seated?
[20:23] <crucialhoax> diddy: Are you using gnome or KDE?
[20:23] <Pici> TGP1994: Which package did you install for php mysql?
[20:23] <TGP1994> I don't think there are any in the ubuntu repositories.
[20:23] <TGP1994> I checked.
[20:23] <lukasz1> I just wna't to find out cause Im gonna do dual bot really soon!
[20:23] <diddy> I am using Gnome and there are no cables. It is a laptop. I am using WLAN.
[20:23] <insulina> hello, I am trying to put zsh working. I alredy install it, but the console still uses old shell, what do I need to do to enable zsh ?
[20:24] <jorge_> hola
[20:24] <switch10_> diddy: is there possibly a problem with your router?  have you tried rebooting your router/modem?
[20:24] <lukasz1> sorry made a typo dualboot.
[20:24] <diddy> switch10_, the router is OK, other PCs can access the internet.
[20:24] <Pici> insulina: run chsh
[20:24] <diddy> I had already restarted WLAN on the router.
[20:24] <pupuser3c0c6f> lol
[20:24] <crucialhoax> diddy: In the upper right hand corner, do you see signal bars or 2 computers with a red X?
[20:24] <Pici> insulina: then enter the path to zsh, /usr/bin/zsh
[20:25] <guntbert> !lol >  pupuser3c0c6f
[20:25] <diddy> But I don't have a network icon in the top panel of Gnome anymore.
[20:25] <ardian> Guys i got an error tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[20:25] <TGP1994> Pici: Nevermind, I found it, it was php5-mysql.
[20:25] <ardian> Installing LAMP tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[20:25] <crucialhoax> diddy: Maybe that is why! lol
[20:25] <diddy> crucialhoax, no there is no network icon at all.
[20:25] <switch10_> diddy: what is the output of iwconfig?  use pastebin
[20:25] <Pici> TGP1994: Nevermind as in you don't need any more help?
[20:25] <crucialhoax> diddy: Lets check to make sure that it is installed still.
[20:25] <diddy> I tried to add it but there is no applet available.
[20:25] <switch10_> diddy: you dont need network manager..
[20:26] <crucialhoax> switch10_: I thought you did for wireless?
[20:26] <ardian> BYe
[20:26] <switch10_> crucialhoax: nope.  iwconfig is all you need.
[20:26] <crucialhoax> switch10_: Hmm. Interesting. :)
[20:26] <diddy> How can I paste it if I can not get on the net?
[20:26] <KristianDK> Hello! I just installed an Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud Cluster/Controller - where do i find the username/password for the web interface?
[20:27] <switch10_> diddy: true :)
[20:27] <git__> hi
[20:27] <diddy> iwconfig is giving me: eth1 IEEE 802.11 Nickname:"" Access point: Not-Associated
[20:27] <WizardOfOz> night
[20:28] <crucialhoax> diddy: try sudo iwconfig eth1
[20:28] <mauri> i have just buy scanner cannon lide 100 but it seems not support by lucid
[20:28] <mauri> i have just buy scanner cannon lide 100 but it seems not support by lucid ...I need help
[20:28] <Pici> mauri : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[20:28] <mauri> Pici: it is the same for karmic
[20:28] <switch10_> diddy: you are not connected to your router.  and i have a feeling you will be much more comfortable with NM, so ill help you get that back..
[20:28] <Pici> !crosspost | mauri
[20:29] <holmser> cannon seems to have some spotty support natively in ubuntu, but they do have linux drivers on their asian support page usually
[20:29] <holmser> pici:  check out their asian support pages.  they usually have linux drivers
[20:29] <Pici> holmser: I don't need it.
[20:29] <switch10_> diddy: right click on your panel and add "notification area"
[20:29] <holmser> whoops, sorry pici
[20:30] <holmser> I meant mauri
[20:30] <diddy> OK, I did sudo iwconfig eth1
[20:30] <diddy> it seems to be working
[20:30] <mauri> holmser: i dont understand
[20:30] <KristianDK> is there an UEC irc channel?
[20:30] <Pici> KristianDK: #ubuntu-server would be more topical
[20:30] <KristianDK> ty :)
[20:30] <crucialhoax> diddy: switch10_ was trying to help you add in the network applet
[20:30] <switch10_> diddy: can you ping google.com?
[20:31] <jef91> I need help getting an ATI rage 128 graphics card to work on Ubuntu 9.10 - the resolution will not go oer 800x600 even though it says the r128 driver is installed
[20:31] <diddy> I added the notification area
[20:31] <holmser> mauri: check out canon's asian support pages.  they usually have linux drivers
[20:31] <diddy> now it is showing a mail icon
[20:31] <holmser> mauri:  its something like asia.support.cannon.com
[20:32] <holmser> google it
[20:32] <diddy> no I mean now it is showing the two-computer-symbol
[20:32] <lukasz1> Can anyone help me plsz?
[20:32] <crucialhoax> diddy: try accessing the internet
[20:33] <guntbert> !ask | lukasz1
[20:33] <diddy> i am trying
[20:33] <lukasz1> ok
[20:33] <lukasz1> I already asked but here it is again,  How do I make a windows 7 parition in Ubuntu and restore grub-pc and make it detect windows 7
[20:35] <Slart> lukasz1: afaik windows 7 uses regular ntfs.. so create a partition (those are the same for all os's and format it as ntfs and you should be done).. the grub stuff should be detected automatically.. at least it is on my system
[20:35] <mauri> holmser: http://support-sg.canon-asia.com/P/search?model=CanoScan+LiDE+100&menu=download&filter=0&start=10
[20:35] <lukasz1> Slart, how do I restore grub-pc after I install Windows 7?
[20:35] <jwendell> hi, folks. How do I tell upstart to not automatically start a service (mysql)?
[20:35] <Slart> !grub | lukasz1, try this
[20:36] <crucialhoax> diddy: You getting it?
[20:36] <jpds> jwendell: bug #94065
[20:36] <Slart> lukasz1: the restore grub thingy
[20:36] <diddy> crucialhoax, nothing
[20:36] <jpds> jwendell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/94065
[20:36] <crucialhoax> diddy: still no connection?
[20:36] <frxstrem> does Ubuntu Lucid use other repositories than other Ubuntu versions?
[20:36] <diddy> crucialhoax, no
[20:36] <holmser> mauri: thats it
[20:36] <Slart> !lucid | frxstrem
[20:36] <lukasz1> Slart, how do I find out what I have installed grub-pc or grub2 just to be safe!
[20:36] <mauri> holmser: unfortunately nothing
[20:37] <switch10_> diddy: are you at least connected to your LAN?  Does NM say "connected"?
[20:37] <holmser> that sucks
[20:37] <crucialhoax> diddy: What is the network icon status?
[20:37] <holmser> frxstrem:  each ubuntu version has its own repos
[20:37] <Slart> lukasz1: ehm.. no idea really.. there might be a version number when you boot.. or you might be able to check it some other way.. "grub -v" perhaps?
[20:37] <na15> grub?
[20:37] <crucialhoax> !grub | na15
[20:38] <lukasz1> hmm
[20:38] <diddy> no, I am getting one green lights and the blue "dot" is revolving
[20:38] <lukasz1> I will try those steps you provided for me thanks Slart
[20:38] <frxstrem> holmser: but is it possible to install a program from a repository for another version (I want to install PHP 5.3.x, but it's only avaialble in the Lucid repository - I am on Ubuntu Karmic now)
[20:38] <na15> thanks
[20:38] <crucialhoax> diddy: It is trying to connect then.
[20:38] <jwendell> jpds, thanks
[20:38] <c> hi people
[20:39] <crucialhoax> diddy: how long has it been revolving?
[20:39] <diddy> crucialhoax, yes but without success
[20:39] <destroy> hi eine frage wieso funktion nicht chmod -R 775 /var/www ?!
[20:39] <Slart> lukasz1: you're welcome and good luck
[20:39] <holmser> Ubuntu doesn't update program versions within releases, only bug fixes.  you can always compile from source
[20:39] <diddy> crucialhoax, a few minutes. i have tried multiple times already
[20:39] <genii> !de | destroy
[20:39] <destroy> wrong channel soory
[20:39] <Guest72693> how do i put  dir in src? pls help
[20:39] <switch10_> diddy: open a terminal and type this:   /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:40] <diddy> crucialhoax, I set the WLAN to "new registrations allowed"
[20:40] <holmser> or look for a .deb package, or even find a specific php repo frxstrem
[20:40] <switch10_> diddy: that will restart the network, and it should work.
[20:41] <diddy> switch10_, I did, nothing
[20:41] <diddy> still only one green light
[20:42] <holmser> frxstrem, check this site out.  It may be useful: http://codeblog.palos.ro/2008/05/06/ubuntu-packages-for-latest-php-snapshots/
[20:42] <crucialhoax> switch10_: when it wont fully connect in my experience isnt it the password?
[20:42] <catalin> hi
[20:42] <switch10_> diddy: don't worry about the "lights" re input your essid and password
[20:43] <switch10_> crucialhoax: probably...
[20:43] <frxstrem> holmser: but if I got all other packages that I would need - including Apache and MySQL - would this work with them too?
[20:43] <catalin> how do i put a file in user/src?
[20:43] <DarkSector> catalin: gksu nautilus
[20:44] <diddy> switch10_, i inputed the password 15 times now
[20:44] <switch10_> diddy: after you restarted your networking you input your password 15 times?
[20:44] <crucialhoax> diddy: something is wrong if the network will not fully connect. Password, wrong network, wrong network?
[20:44] <switch10_> diddy: do it once a wait a few seconds
[20:45] <MrKeuner> hello I am considering alptop which has this: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 Graphics with 512MB GDDR2 Memory does this hardware have free driver?
[20:45] <fabio333> hi there
[20:45] <holmser> frxstrem, It should, but I'm no expert.  You may want to use google to find those answers.
[20:45] <duffydack> MrKeuner, yes
[20:45] <progre55> hi people! I've downloaded a 64bit flash player from adobe http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html and it's a .tar.gz file. while unpacked, there is only one file, libflashplayer.so where do I put it? :)
[20:45] <MrKeuner> duffydack, are you using one, or just know it
[20:45] <guntbert> catalin: DarkSector: be *very* careful when you run nautilus with root permissions - its a dangerous thing to do - I'd suggest you just use sudo cp .... for that purpose
[20:45] <diddy> ok
[20:45] <DarkSector> guntbert: copy that
[20:46] <duffydack> MrKeuner, ATI Mob 4650, all the 4xxx/5xxx are supported
[20:46] <catalin> ok
[20:46] <crucialhoax> progre55: put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[20:46] <duffydack> MrKeuner, there is the fglrx driver also, thats faster.
[20:46] <progre55> crucialhoax: thanks man
[20:46] <MrKeuner> duffydack, does the free support include 3d accel and all?
 up to hd4870
[20:46] <crucialhoax> progre55: FF will need to be restarted
[20:46] <catalin> its ok i just want to learn more
[20:46] <duffydack> MrKeuner, Ive only tried compiz with it, so I`d say yes. altho for me its not as fast the fglrx proprietary driver
[20:47] <progre55> crucialhoax: roger =)
[20:47] <mouseover> Dumb question: Is there a way I can get Ubuntu lite? i.e. an Ubuntu distro without all these bells n whistles, music store, etc. Esssentially, I want to do the LEAST amount of configurating but lose everything else. We mainly use it as a server and/or developer machines
[20:47] <crucialhoax> progre55: Youtube away after that :)
[20:47] <MrKeuner> duffydack, I cannot count on a prop driver, so what you are telling me is bad :( but thank you so much
[20:47] <switch10_> mouseover: xubuntu, and lubuntu
[20:48] <progre55> crucialhoax: huh?)
[20:48] <duffydack> MrKeuner,  nothing wrong with ATI`s proper driver... used it for years
[20:48] <catalin> how do i open nautilius  with root?
[20:48] <switch10_> mouseover: but if you are using it as a server, why not just have a command line system?
[20:48] <crucialhoax> progre55: Have fun on youtube lol
[20:48] <switch10_> catalin: gksu nautilus
[20:49] <catalin> i dont understand
[20:49] <mouseover> switch10_: If I understand correctly, xubuntu and lubuntu simply use another desktop environment... the thing is, I am fine with GNOME - its all the other junk like compiz, music store, themes, etc that I dont want
[20:49] <progre55> crucialhoax: haha)) well, I actually wanted to watch some southpark on southparkstudios.se =))
[20:49] <co2_> gkffhd
[20:49] <co2_> 할롱
[20:49] <switch10_> catalin: open a terminal and type that.
[20:49] <diddy> what is the difference between ssid and bssid?
[20:49] <master_alvaro> hello
[20:49] <co2_> 하잉
[20:49] <crucialhoax> progre55: that works too
[20:49] <crucialhoax> progre55: haha
[20:49] <co2_> 다들어디사세요?
[20:50] <co2_> 한국인없나?
[20:50] <guntbert> catalin: open a terminal, there you type gksu nautilus -- but *please* be *very* careful -- thats an easy way to destroy your system
[20:50] <catalin> ok
[20:50] <master_alvaro> i have problem with file permissions
[20:50] <switch10_> mouseover: then uninstall them.  gnome is a waste of resources on a server.  so is any GUI for that matter.
[20:50] <master_alvaro> i have a dir in /var/www
[20:51] <master_alvaro> and i have to give perms to new user
[20:51] <master_alvaro> (rwx)
[20:51] <master_alvaro> i set acls (setfacl)
[20:51] <jiffe1> hmm, I have an ubuntu machine running pacemaker/drbd/mysql and after reboot everything starts up and I can ssh in but the console is frozen, any idea how I might fix that?
[20:51] <co2_> korea!!
[20:51] <Pici> !ko
[20:52] <switch10_> diddy: is your networking up?
[20:52] <diddy> switch10_, yes
[20:52] <co2_> 말도안통하는군
[20:52] <master_alvaro> i set uid/gid
[20:52] <diddy> I did a WLAN device scan on the router and it finds the laptop but the IP address of the laptop is 0.0.0.0
[20:52] <co2_> you os ??
[20:52] <master_alvaro> but when i create new files, owner is new user
[20:52] <master_alvaro> not www-data
[20:52] <mouseover> switch10_: I know I am being picky, but I know theres got to be a distro or ubuntu variant that is "lite"... ideally, I want to selectively install the components - I dont recall Ubutnu having something like this
[20:52] <jiffe1> I can ctrl-alt-del but that is about it
[20:53] <master_alvaro> why? is it possible to change it?
[20:53] <MaximLevitsky> diddy you say 0.0.0.0
[20:53] <co2_> !@#@#!$#$@#@#$
[20:53] <crucialhoax> mouseover: take a look at eBox platform
[20:53] <MaximLevitsky> diddy: I know that bug
[20:53] <diddy> yes
[20:53] <switch10_> mouseover: if you install a base system, you only have to install the stuff you are going to use..
[20:54] <MaximLevitsky> diddy: please remove everything in /var/lib/dhcp3/
[20:54] <progre55> crucialhoax: works, thanks man =)
[20:54] <catalin> thnks
[20:54] <MaximLevitsky> diddy:  this holds DHCP leases and sometimes it stores 0.0.0.0
[20:54] <crucialhoax> progre55: No problem
[20:54] <co2_> A Korean isn't?
[20:55] <diddy> MaximLevitsky, i did
[20:55] <progre55> crucialhoax: but I guess it only works for mozilla now.. and google chrome would not work, so where do I put it for chrome? is there any common place for such stuff? )
[20:55] <diddy> MaximLevitsky, and now?
[20:55] <MaximLevitsky> diddy: try to connect
[20:55] <co2_> MaximLevitsky, and now?
[20:55] <catalin> guis i have  a problem
[20:55] <crucialhoax> progre55: One sec :)
[20:56] <co2_> A Korean isn't?
[20:56] <catalin> sometimes ubuntu doenst boot up
[20:56] <co2_> Oh fun [eps] is bitter!
[20:56] <crucialhoax> progre55: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[20:57] <catalin> help
[20:57] <progre55> crucialhoax: does chrome use the same plugins from the same place?
[20:57] <crucialhoax> progre55: Yes. My flash in chrome works... and I have the libflashplayer.so in the same location..
[20:57] <co2_> The secret intention right struggle is amd 64 and
[20:57] <progre55> crucialhoax: I just removed flashplugin-installer from apt, hope that's fine =)
[20:58] <crucialhoax> progre55: Yeah, that is useless now. Ew
[20:58] <progre55> crucialhoax: cause on the adobe page it says that I need to uninstall all the flashplayers befere I use/install this one
[20:58] <crucialhoax> progre55: correct
[20:58] <progre55> crucialhoax: aweseme, thanks man, appreciate!
[20:58] <jim__> Just installed new wireless N adapter and router. 9.10 refuses to allow me to save the password. it will save for 1 or 2 sessions then it locks again. is there some file I can manually enter the password, and save it? thenmake so nothing can re-write the file? tia.
[20:58] <co2_> The secret intention hour blood type [thol] only is 8650.
[20:59] <crucialhoax> progre55: No problem
[20:59] <IdleOne> !ot | co2_
[20:59] <co2_> ??
[20:59] <progre55> crucialhoax: arright, I'm away to watch some southpark )
[20:59] <crucialhoax> progre55: peace!
[20:59] <IdleOne> co2_: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:00] <MrKeuner> does this hardware have drivers in ubuntu? Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1000
[21:00] <co2_> Right struggle is good and is
[21:00] <MaximLevitsky> MrKeuner: shold
[21:00] <MaximLevitsky> MrKeuner: should have
[21:01] <MrKeuner> MaximLevitsky, free or proprietary
[21:01] <co2_> 5:00 a.m. Korean timely ㅠㅠ
[21:01] <MaximLevitsky> MrKeuner: free, its intel
[21:01] <IdleOne> co2_: /join #ubuntu-ko
[21:02] <MaximLevitsky> MrKeuner: these days all wireless cards have free driver except broadcom which has reverse engineered free driver
[21:02] <co2_> Secret intention cpu [thol] only 8650
[21:02] <qazibasit> hi guys
[21:03] <qazibasit> i am having problem with mmy commodore 64, its 1514 floppy is not working
[21:03] <qazibasit> need help
[21:03] <Emanon> need to know where tor (The Onion Router)'s startup entry is stored since it doesnt get stored in my users startup programs and i need to stop it starting on boot so vidalia can start it itself
[21:03] <DickJustice> i need help too
[21:03] <Myrtti> qazibasit: this is Ubuntu support channel
[21:03] <co2_> ㅐㅗ
[21:03] <co2_> oh
[21:03] <Emanon> if anyone knows that would be nice
[21:03] <crucialhoax> MrKeuner: Are you in need of a completely free system?
[21:03] <DickJustice> i think my pizza is alive, and talking to me...
[21:03] <MrKeuner> I am just looking for a basic laptop for my parents... It has to support GNU/Linux (fully if possible at all)
[21:03] <co2_> Korean method the yo-yo which is
[21:04] <Myrtti> !ko | co2_
[21:04] <blip-> baboontu
[21:04] <qazibasit> need help with my commodore 64, plz tell me the chan name
[21:04] <co2_> Thanks company
[21:04] <IdleOne> Myrtti: he is in -ko but insists on babbling :/
[21:04] <Myrtti> qazibasit: we're not yellow pages either, try /msg alis list *commodore*
[21:04] <qazibasit> thanks
[21:05] <DickJustice> what about my pizza issue?
[21:05] <DickJustice> is that normal?
[21:05] <crucialhoax> DickJustice: Yes.
[21:05] <Myrtti> DickJustice: did you have an UBUNTU issue?
[21:05] <Turbolinux> Hello everyone. I want to make a rescue operation with PhotoRec program but how can I use my portable hard disk for saving data?
[21:05] <MrKeuner> crucialhoax, I wish but I think there is none
[21:05] <crucialhoax> DickJustice: Now ask something technical.
[21:05] <crucialhoax> MrKeuner: what do you mean?
[21:06] <MrKeuner> crucialhoax, I whish there was a completely free system
[21:06] <blue-frog> MrKeuner, you can install debian or gos. it will be all free. your parent will hate it but you will be happy
[21:07] <arand> Emanon: I would assume /etc/init.d/tor (I don't use vidalia, and tor runs automatically on boot, I'm not sure if vidalia sets up things differently)
[21:07] <jpds> MrKeuner: http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/list/?category=Laptop
[21:07] <waltercool> will ubuntu drop mono?
[21:07] <Emanon> thanks ill give that a try arand
[21:07] <jpds> waltercool: No.
[21:07] <MrKeuner> jpds, thanks that is useful
[21:08] <crucialhoax> MrKeuner: Yeah. But sometimes a prop driver has to be used since there is not a open source driver
[21:08] <arand> Emanon: If you reinstall vidalia, it should ask how you want to configure tor starting, I think.
[21:08] <waltercool> jpds, Why? Is patented and is wasting precious cd space
[21:08] <jpds> waltercool: Because we decided not to?
[21:08] <MrKeuner> crucialhoax, I understand that
[21:08] <Sivam> is there any lvm concept in ubuntu ?
[21:08] <histo> Sivam: what do you mean?
[21:09] <Sivam> histo: logical volume manager
[21:09] <jpds> !lvm | Sivam
[21:09] <guntbert> Sivam: the alternate CD supports LVM installation
[21:09] <crucialhoax> MrKeuner: So why a full free system? If you absolutely need a free system check out distrowatch.com they will have something for you.
[21:09] <waltercool> jpds, dammn... im out of ubuntu... i hate that
[21:09] <jpds> waltercool: Your choice, dude.
[21:10] <Myrtti> waltercool: have a happy one then
[21:10] <MrKeuner> crucialhoax, because I cannot count on prop drivers
[21:10] <crucialhoax> MrKeuner: There are distros with only "free" software repos.
[21:10] <jpds> waltercool: It's a useful platform for writing C# programs.
[21:10] <ubuntu> Where to find some documentation about install and configure of FreeRADIUS on Ubuntu server?
[21:10] <waltercool> jpds, vala?
[21:10] <h00k> !server | ubuntu
[21:11] <jpds> waltercool: That's not C#.
[21:11] <crucialhoax> MrKeuner: Well like I said then, check out distrowatch.com they have FULL free distro's with only free repos.
[21:11] <waltercool> C# like
[21:11] <jpds> waltercool: !C#.
[21:12] <MrKeuner> crucialhoax, thank you but my question is about free supporting systems. I am aware of where to get free software
[21:12] <crucialhoax> MrKeuner: as in?
[21:12] <waltercool> jpds, =/ Seems like a commercial thing between Ubuntu and Microsoft...
[21:13] <jpds> waltercool: No, not really.
[21:13] <jpds> waltercool: Most of the Mono packages come from Debian.
[21:13] <diddy> What is the BSSID?
[21:13] <h00k> diddy: Basic Service Set Identifier
[21:14] <waltercool> jpds, Maybe they are just following the Icaza wish...
[21:14] <crucialhoax> diddy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_set_(802.11_network)
[21:14] <h00k> diddy: specifically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_set_(802.11_network)#Basic_service_set_identifier_.28BSSID.29
[21:14] <Turbolinux> Can you help me? I wrote my question as a previous message.
[21:14] <Myrtti> waltercool: if you don't have a specific ubuntu problem other than semantics of should Ubuntu come with Mono or not, you could continue this discussion at #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:14] <diddy> I thought that was the SSID
[21:14] <Alan502> Hi, would someone help me getting my microphone work with audacity?
[21:15] <waltercool> Myrtti, ok, thanks
[21:15] <h00k> Turbolinux: please repeat it, if somebody knows, they will answer
[21:16] <nikolaj_basher> Hi:D It can't find the problem, I have installed my sql, and everytime I send somthing i a html formel : øåæ it's shows Ã¦Ã¸l in the field. when I put øæå via the phpmyadmin formel i shows øæå
[21:16] <Turbolinux> I want to make a rescue operation with PhotoRec program but how can I use my portable hard disk for saving data? The software lists only local directories.
[21:16] <muszelka> hej
[21:17] <alonea> I am not sure what I did, but double click no longer executes in programs. So, for example, in Eclipse if I double click a file in the browser, nothing happens. I have to right click and open
[21:17] <h00k> Turbolinux: your drive should show up in /media/
[21:17] <pkkm> How to minimize a fullscreen game?
[21:17] <Alan502> pkkm, which game?
[21:17] <cfedde> pkkm: sometimes <esc> will do it.
[21:17] <alonea> Or in Pidgin or Empathy if I double click a contact, nothing happens, I have to right click and click on IM or chat
[21:17] <civpro> im in some desperate need of some help
[21:17] <U-b-u-n-t-u> when I use firefox my cpu and ram go way way up and it even happens with opera and chrome when I am on sites like youtube... any idea why?
[21:17] <Alan502> alonea, have you tried a different mouse?
[21:17] <civpro> website just went down
[21:18] <h00k> alonea: check your mouse settings and perhaps adjust your double-click speed
[21:18] <nikolaj_basher> this is my php code http://pastebin.org/143434
[21:18] <alonea> Alan502: don't have a mouse. its a touchpad. and single click is fine.
[21:18] <pkkm> Alan502, Nexuiz
[21:18] <nikolaj_basher> and in the sql-server the charset is utf-8
[21:18] <civpro> i was making an app to connect to db and it crashed
[21:19] <civpro> all i changed was through webmin, instead of only localhost, any host
[21:19] <civpro> can someone help me get it back up please
[21:19] <Alan502> pkkm, there should be a config file under .nexuiz (or something) in your home directory
[21:19] <alonea> h00k: I am dumb..somehow the double click speed got set to highest possible. The mouse setting in general have been pretty off. thanks
[21:20] <h00k> alonea: I'm glad you got it :) no prob.
[21:20] <civpro> please i need urgent help
[21:20] <civpro> reset the mysql password but its still not able to connect
[21:20] <Alan502> civpro, ask?
[21:20] <jim__> so the only way for me to have this system connect to my wifi automatically is to buy and install windows 7? How depressing I thought by buying a system with linux on it would make everything easy. I wonder how many other dell customers have had to do this :(
[21:20] <pkkm> Alan502, thanks
[21:20] <Alan502> pkkm, yw
[21:20] <civpro> i did
[21:20] <Turbolinux> h00k: The program doesn't show that directory which you said. I can see only home directories?
[21:20] <civpro> cant login to mysql db
[21:21] <MrKeuner> why doesn't dell or hp sell ubuntu preloaded systems?
[21:21] <Turbolinux> Only home directories.
[21:21] <crucialhoax> Turbolinux: Hit Ctrl + H in your home folder
[21:21] <Myrtti> !webmin | civpro
[21:21] <Myrtti> MrKeuner: ask them?
[21:21] <DeadmanIncJS> they do sell linux computers
[21:21] <wad> I was about to download Ubuntu 9.10 server edition, but the website's teaser about version 10.04 is making me want to procrastinate. Is there such a thing as an ETA for this... less than a month, for example?
[21:21] <civpro> i think its a bind issue
[21:21] <crucialhoax> MrKeuner: Dell does...
[21:21] <MrKeuner> Myrtti, I would if they would tell
[21:21] <DeadmanIncJS> April 29th
[21:21] <Myrtti> wad: 29th of April
[21:21] <civpro> either way i need to find out what went wrong to correct it
[21:21] <jim__> MrKeuner, they do, but it is junk this one wont even remember the wifi password
[21:21] <civpro> where is the config file located for mysql
[21:21] <Alan502> !lucid
[21:22] <crucialhoax> jim__: What have you done for the problem so far/
[21:22] <Alan502> !lucid | wad
[21:22] <civpro> and also could not binding it to localhost cause this issue?
[21:22] <wad> Myrtti, awesome, thanks!
[21:22] <MrKeuner> I really wonder what is keeping them away from it, some point they sell but then they stop doing it
[21:22] <civpro> the user that is
[21:22] <MrKeuner> like lenovo for example
[21:22] <Myrtti> civpro: please keep it in one line?
[21:22] <MrKeuner> or just sell the junk hardware with it
[21:22] <ogionnj> Guess I just have to jump right in, huh?
[21:22] <catalin> how i can install a tar.bz2?
[21:22] <ogionnj> update-manager has been telling me that I have to run a partial upgrade.  But I see that that would end up removing some very important packages.  How can I get it back to sanity?
[21:22] <civpro> i just need help, like asap
[21:23] <civpro> sorry panicing here
[21:23] <Alan502> catalin, it depends on what tar.bz2 that is
[21:23] <MrKeuner> crucialhoax, I cannot even find what page those systems are on
[21:23] <Myrtti> civpro: and you're making it difficult to give help to you ASAP as you've spread your question and information over several messages that people who might help you need to trace b ack
[21:23] <catalin> i dont know
[21:23] <crucialhoax> MrKeuner: there are other companies like Systems 76 that all they sell is Linux boxes. Try them
[21:23] <DeadmanIncJS> i got mine from ZaReason.com
[21:23] <crucialhoax> MrKeuner: Google is your friend :)
[21:23] <jpds> civpro: Rule #1 of the universe: Don't Panic.
[21:23] <civpro> its only 1 question, im not able to connect, can you help me get it back working again
[21:24] <Turbolinux> crucialhoax: It didn't change anything.
[21:24] <h00k> civpro: please ask your question, including all details, on one line. It makes it a lot easier for people to follow.
[21:24] <crucialhoax> Turbolinux: Then go up to the view menu at the top and choose show hidden folders
[21:24] <Alan502> catalin, usually, you need to decompress the file, then cd from the command line; and then type ./configure then make and finally make install
[21:24] <civpro> my question: can you help me get mysql back up and running again, i cannot connect
[21:25] <t3chkommie> hellow fellow ubuntuians!
[21:25] <h00k> !hi | t3chkommie
[21:25] <brit> sup
[21:25] <civpro> hrm
[21:25] <xgpt> hey everyone, what SMTP server should I use for my home server? I don't need anything too fancy...simple is better.
[21:25] <sweb> how can i instal 'pocompile'
[21:25] <catalin> of
[21:25] <sweb> for get mo file from po file
[21:25] <sweb> gettext
[21:26] <sweb> wha'ts package name ?
[21:26] <brit> is there a way to get a precompiled wine fie?
[21:26] <civpro> i have asked many times the same exact question and the only response im getting is keep it on 1 line, even though i have been keeping the question on 1 line
[21:26] <Turbolinux> No, you thought I wanted to see hidden folders in file browser but I want to set up PhotoRec program for saving data from my notebook computer.
[21:26] <doolph> xgpt, how many emails per day
[21:26] <Pici> sweb: translate-toolkit
[21:26] <h00k> !patience | civpro
[21:26] <crucialhoax> Ohh... You are looking for a media folder right?
[21:26] <xgpt> doolph: almost none
[21:26] <civpro> my question: can you help me get mysql back up and running again, i cannot connect
[21:26] <Turbolinux> Can you help me for this problem?
[21:27] <xgpt> VERY light usage
[21:27] <jpds> civpro: We need more details than that.
[21:27] <civpro> like?
[21:27] <jpds> civpro: What errror message are you seeing?
[21:27] <t3chkommie> my question for the day guys. im looking to make my own type for "dropbox-like" ftp server on my ubuntu server that will allow users to log in through a webpage and manage their data all through the browser.... any ideas?
[21:27] <crucialhoax> what happened
[21:27] <doolph> xgpt, why do you need a smtp server then?
[21:27] <Turbolinux> crucialhoax: Can you help me?
[21:27] <sweb> Pici, thank !!!
[21:27] <xgpt> because I want to start spamming viagra ads...kidding i just want to play around with one
[21:27] <civpro> DATABASE: mysql_connect: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[21:27] <doolph> try gmail its better for you
[21:27] <crucialhoax> Turbolinux: I can tru lol
[21:27] <crucialhoax> try*
[21:27] <xgpt> i have gmail, i just want to play around with it
[21:27] <Nalf> Your root password is incorrect.
[21:28] <guntbert> !crosspost | xgpt
[21:28] <doolph> xgpt, then try qmail
[21:28] <civpro> i believe its a bind issue, i have already went through the process of resetting the password and it went through successfully
[21:28] <crucialhoax> civpro: that is a mysql bug... check the mysql forums. I had to look it up yesterday
[21:28] <jpds> civpro: You're using DNS for localhst?
[21:28] <ogionnj> Anyone know why update-manager would be telling me that it needs to do a partial upgrade?  The PU looks dangerous.  It wants to remove very important packages.
[21:28] <civpro> jpds, i believe thats the cause
[21:28] <Nalf> Are you connecting with 'localhost' or 127.0.0.1
[21:29] <h00k> !who | Nalf
[21:29] <Turbolinux> crucialhoax: So you will help me isn't it?
[21:29] <civpro> when i went from localhost to any connection it crashed, im thinking i need to bind it but i dont know how
[21:29] <t3chkommie> my question for the day guys. im looking to make my own type for "dropbox-like" ftp server on my ubuntu server that will allow users to log in through a webpage and manage their data all through the browser.... any ideas?
[21:29] <brit> can anyone help me install wine?
[21:29] <t3chkommie> brit : sudo apt-get install wine ;)
[21:29] <crucialhoax> Turbolinux: When you are looking for the media folder it will be in / directory then /media
[21:29] <civpro> can we take this to a pm so its easier to troubleshoot please, too much action in here :)
[21:29] <paul3333> hi, I can't delete all the ati drivers no matter what I do... I erased all the xorg drivers and the envy and the Ati Catalyst still shows up, any clues? Also my display is running very slug-ish, like on windows before you install any drivers. Anyone has a clue? Many thanks
[21:29] <jpds> civpro: What does: "host localhost" return?
[21:30] <h00k> !pm | civpro
[21:30] <histo> !who | civpro
[21:30] <h00k> brit: sudo aptitude install wine, or look for 'wine' in the Software Center, or in Synaptic
[21:30] <civpro> localhost has address 127.0.0.1
[21:30] <jpds> civpro: So not a DNS issue.
[21:31] <civpro> ok so what else can i try jpds?
[21:31] <crucialhoax> civpro: still try the IP instead of localhost
[21:31] <civpro> so point localhost to the ip address then in named?
[21:31] <Turbolinux> Will Ubuntu set up windows buttons to left with release update from currently version?
[21:32] <crucialhoax> civpro: In a classroom with 20pcs all networked, with working DNS, only addresses would work for SSH, so just give it a shtot
[21:32] <jrib> Turbolinux: #ubuntu+1 for lucid (10.04) questions
[21:32] <crucialhoax> Turbolinux: Yes, but if you want them on the right, its an easy fix
[21:32]  * t3chkommie is waiting for the room to simma down before he asks his question....
[21:32] <Moral_> Trying to reinstall grub, I go to write it to /dev/hda so it's on my MBR but I get "unable to install GRUB in /dev/hda This is a fatal error"  "The rescue operation 'grub-reinstall' failed with exit code 1.
[21:32] <hydester> hi.  i just was testing out wubi.exe for karmic.  it installed fine, but the screen has a repainting issue.  i'm not sure what the problem could be.  i haven't had this problem with straight karmic before
[21:33] <civpro> same thing
[21:33] <Sivam> is there any ubuntu version I can install in USB  ?
[21:33] <jpds> civpro: So your password's probably wrong.
[21:33] <crucialhoax> Sivam: all of them
[21:34] <Sivam> crucialhoax: which takes less space ?
[21:34] <C_Tek> can someone help me with a user related problem? I have removed the user from the admin group and now i can't do sudo... any advice ?
[21:34] <t3chkommie> sivam: you can install all ISO to a usb if there is neought space.
[21:34] <sp> Sivam: if you want a live USB memory key try usb startup disk creator
[21:34] <crucialhoax> Sivam: Lubuntu
[21:34] <truth-teller> hi all i take a number to ask a question :)
[21:34] <Turbolinux> crucialhoax: I understand. The program needs a different set up solution I think because this way didn't work.
[21:34] <crucialhoax> C_Tek: you removed your user from sudo
[21:34] <civpro> how can it be i followed the reset password to the t and it updated successfully
[21:35] <sp> Sivam: if you just want to install onto an USB device, go head, do an install and select the USB device when prompted for the install target
[21:35] <jrib> C_Tek: reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Then issue the command: adduser THE_NAME_OF_YOUR_USER_HERE admin
[21:35] <civpro> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/access-denied.html <-- followed this guide
[21:35] <Sivam> sp can we boot from this ubuntu on USB ?
[21:35] <C_Tek> yeap, and in the middle of the process my vpn link crashed ...
[21:36] <sp> Sivam: yes, you should be able to boot from that installation/live system
[21:36] <C_Tek> I can still connect to my server but no sudo .. :(
[21:36] <crucialhoax> Sivam: If the BIOS supports USB boot -- which most newer pc's do, then yes
[21:36] <guntbert> !ask | truth-teller there is no queue :)
[21:36] <civpro> ok i can log through shell if that helps
[21:36] <Sivam> crucialhoax: I have windows machine which I cannot reboot
[21:36] <crucialhoax> Then I suggest virtual box
[21:36] <Sivam> crucialhoax: in that machine I have an ubuntu ISO file. I want to install ubuntu directly in USB
[21:36] <t3chkommie> Sivam. get UbUSB and try fixing it.
[21:36] <t3chkommie> ;)
[21:36] <OsvaldAnteros> has anyone ever gone from a complete ubuntu allocated hardrive to creating a smaller partition for windows and then installing windows on the smaller partition?
[21:36] <truth-teller> :) does xbmc can be installed frm apt or a easy way to it?
[21:37] <dhendrix> which package installs the add-apt command?
[21:37] <jrib> C_Tek: you need physical access to the machine now
[21:37] <crucialhoax> Sivam: So you cannot reboot the windows machine but you want to install ubuntu on a usb drive and boot it?
[21:37] <Sivam> yes
[21:37] <RyanP> OsvaldAnteros: Yes.
[21:37] <t3chkommie> Osvaldanteos: thats a night mare if you do it that way. much MUCH easier to install ubuntu 2nd. that way the grub gets propogated correctly... thats my experience.
[21:37] <truth-teller> any xbmc user in here?
[21:38] <C_Tek> :) Thanx, i was thinking that so taht means only on monday i can fix my user, Thank you
[21:38]  * t3chkommie loves xmbc
[21:38] <crucialhoax> Sivam: How is that possible to boot a USB when the system cannot be rebooted? I suggest you look into VirtualBox :)
[21:38] <Sivam> crucialhoax: I want to make the USB as bootable.
[21:38] <Sivam> crucialhoax: I did not want to reboot the machine for now
[21:39] <OsvaldAnteros> ryanP/t3chkommie: well i have only ubuntu now, i want to create a smaller partition (which i have done) around 6 gigs, install windows98 on it, then install starcraft and 3dstudio max onit
[21:39] <crucialhoax> Well creating a bootable usb is easiest in Ubuntu.
[21:39] <crucialhoax> Sivam: Creating a bootable usb is easiest from the Live CD
[21:39] <Turbolinux> crucialhoax: Do you have another solution?
[21:39] <Beyondinferno> it's not too hard in windows either
[21:39] <bcj> OsvaldAnteros: Why Windows 98?
[21:39] <crucialhoax> Turbolinux: Unfortunately, I do not.
[21:40] <Turbolinux> OK. Thank you for your help.
[21:40] <civpro> well shit
[21:40] <crucialhoax> Turbolinux: No Problem
[21:40] <histo> !language | civpro
[21:40] <OsvaldAnteros> bcj: i have a real old 3d studio max cd that i tried to install on xp but Max didn't work
[21:40] <RyanP> OsvaldAnteros: It's possible. Use gparted or something from a bootable CD and resize your Linux partition. As t3chkommie said, Windows will try to wipe grub out, so you'll need to be able to recreate it.
[21:40] <t3chkommie> Osvaldanteos: if you can install everything first. then ubuntu... make it easier.. if not.. youre going to have to point youre grup to your partitions... im no good at that :(
[21:40] <bcj> OsvaldAnteros: Have you tried Blender?
[21:41] <bcj> OsvaldAnteros: ...as a free alternative to 3DS Max?
[21:41] <civpro> well this is useless, guess ill try to find someone who knows, later
[21:41] <crucialhoax> !blender | OsvaldAnteros
[21:41] <OsvaldAnteros> bcj: im partial to max, and have exp. with it
[21:42] <bcj> OsvaldAnteros: Wine?
[21:42] <bcj> !wine | OsvaldAnteros
[21:42] <OsvaldAnteros> yes ive heardof wine and cedega and virtual box even, but LAGGING is akin to murder in starcraft
[21:43] <dhendrix> OsvaldAnteros: In my experience, Starcraft runs very well under Wine (no lag at all)
[21:43] <histo> OsvaldAnteros: I think you'd be suprised to see that there isn't much lag in wine if any
[21:44] <OsvaldAnteros> hmmm....alright ill try wine but i have a feeling ill be back
[21:44] <dhendrix> OsvaldAnteros:  I've also done warcraft 3 and a few first person shooters in Wine. Competitively. Lag was not an issue.
[21:44] <arand> OsvaldAnteros: In my experience, for casual play starcraft is fine, but if you're into some more competitive, I don't think you'll enjoy wine.
[21:44] <dhendrix> OsvaldAnteros:  :  However, it's not always easy to set up. And if you don't use nVidia graphics with their binary driver, you'll likely get crappy performance no matter what.
[21:45] <Wild_Doogy> I am having trouble with a python script. it seems that my firewall is blocking all incomming TCP requests
[21:45] <arand> OsvaldAnteros: But as it seems, your mileage may vary...
[21:45] <Wild_Doogy> trying to connect to port 1292 and I get conenction refused
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[21:45] <FloodBot4> Zolton: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <OsvaldAnteros> Alright thanks for the input, ill try to config wine right and see if it does max and starcraft groovy enough
[21:46] <OsvaldAnteros> adis
[21:46] <dhendrix> arand:  yeah, that's the problem. "YMMV" has been my experience with Wine. It's gotten consistently better IMHO, but when I get the itch to play multiplayer I usually end up coughing up $15 for a 3-month Cedega license to avoid configuration frustration.
[21:47] <Beyondinferno> I know this is  for general help but i can't get anyone in the samba channel and i could use some help
[21:47] <Wild_Doogy> my script works fine the other way, computer A > B but not B>A
[21:47] <Wild_Doogy> how do I allow it though the firewall?
[21:48] <crucialhoax> Wild_Doogy: Add a rule into ufw
[21:48] <t3chkommie> needs help with FTP server apps.
[21:48] <crucialhoax> !ufw | Wild_Doogy
[21:49] <Beyondinferno> has anyone run into issues when trying to view a samba share a samba share running on ubuntu x86 from a x64 install of ubuntu?
[21:49] <magicianlord> i need the command to remove old kernels and related  headers in one, fell, swoopie woop swoop
[21:49] <magicianlord> ty
[21:50] <Wild_Doogy> Thanks
[21:50] <crucialhoax> Wild_Doogy: No prob.
[21:50] <magicianlord> Beyondinferno: no, i have not.
[21:51] <Beyondinferno> do you know of any settings in the conf that would effect only an x64 machine?
[21:51] <Guest33371> Is there a channel for 10.04 beta?
[21:51] <crucialhoax> !lucid | Guest33371
[21:51] <magicianlord> Guest33371: this is it, money
[21:51] <Guest33371> crucialhoax, thank you
[21:52] <crucialhoax> No problem :)
[21:53] <rohitsilentkille> How do we create the wiki required in launchpad
[21:53] <FauxFaux> Both the 09 and the 10 beta installers' partition managers just get this machine (the one I'm using right now) completely wrong; http://faux.uwcs.co.uk/ubuntu-2010b1.html .  Basically, they're convinced that something that's blatently a valid ntfs partition is a swap disk, even if you tell them that it's not.  How can I bug report this?
[21:53] <Beyondinferno> crucialhoax: do you know of any settings in smb.conf that would effect only a x64 client?
[21:53] <histo> rohitsilentkille: what do you mean?
[21:53] <crucialhoax> !wiki | rohitsilentkille
[21:53] <crucialhoax> Beyondinferno: No I do not =/
[21:54] <Beyondinferno> i've got something very strange going on....
[21:54] <guntbert> rohitsilentkille: there is no wiki "required" to be here :)
[21:54] <crucialhoax> Beyondinferno: However, I do not believe architecture matters. It is a configuration somewhere.
[21:54] <histo> Beyondinferno: can you view the share from elsewhere on the network?
[21:54] <ZykoticK9> rohitsilentkille, just put https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XYZ where XYZ is the page name you wish, if it's available there will be a "Create new empty page" link.
[21:54] <histo> Beyondinferno: and what do you mean by "having trouble"
[21:54] <eaglecoth> Hello
[21:55] <t3chkommie> does anyone know of a good ftp back end for ubuntu server thats got a decent webinterface (WBI)???
[21:55] <histo> !ftpd | t3chkommie
[21:55] <Beyondinferno> histo: yes i can, i can view it via a laptop running karmic x86 via wired and wireless but not from a x64 machine running karmic
[21:55] <t3chkommie> thanks histo
[21:55] <histo> Beyondinferno: what happens when you try to view it withthe x64 machien?
[21:56] <magicianlord> Question: Why do laptops running Ubuntu run significantly hotter than Windows?
[21:56] <zoug> hey, someone help me with this:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1447461 . i tried to help, didnt worked out well.
[21:56] <Beyondinferno> i've tried installing a pci nic thinking it may be a compatibility issue with my onboard nic but no dice
[21:56] <crimsun> magicianlord: poor hamster care
[21:56] <magicianlord> crimsun: hadouken?
[21:56] <crimsun> magicianlord: really, we don't do as good a job of powering things down
[21:56] <histo> Beyondinferno: again what happens when you try to view the share? are you sure samba is installed on the x64 machine
[21:57] <magicianlord> oh i see
[21:57] <histo> Beyondinferno: type smtree in a terminal on the x64 machine.
[21:57] <Beyondinferno> i can see the windows network on the 64 bit machine and workgroup but i can't see the server
[21:57] <Kuifje111> !trigger
[21:58] <magicianlord> bbl
[21:58] <histo> zoug: there is an issue withthat chipset right now in uubntu I believe
[21:58] <Beyondinferno> histro: I THINK I FOUND IT!
[21:58] <Kuifje111> ! trigger
[21:58] <histo> zoug: i've seen people use windows drivers and got it working.
[21:58] <histo> Beyondinferno: what was it?
[21:58] <Kuifje111> !apt
[21:58] <zoug> histo: ndis?
[21:58] <Beyondinferno> server requested plaintext password
[21:58] <histo> zoug: ndiswrapper
[21:58] <zoug> histo: okay..
[21:59] <Beyondinferno> but client plaintext auth is disabled
[21:59] <Kuifje111> !omg
[21:59] <histo> zoug: and windows drivers because the firmware install isn't working for some reason atleast from what people have been saying in here.
[21:59] <Kuifje111> !windows
[21:59] <histo> Beyondinferno: cool.
[21:59] <guntbert> !askthebot | Kuifje111
[21:59] <Turbolinux> Does anyone know how to set up a special directory for saving data from computer with PhotoRec program? I want to transfer rescued files to my portable hard disk.
[21:59] <zoug> histo: i even tried the drivers from broadcom website, but it wont start.
[21:59] <eaglecoth> Hey, I followed the InternetConnectionSharing Guide on ubuntu.org,  it works flawlesslys however, setup is not kept after reboot, where is the proper place to configure bootup internetsharing?
[21:59] <Kuifje111> guntbert: ok :-).
[22:00] <Exposure548> hey there
[22:01] <ChrisTX> !stallman
[22:01] <ghost_> yo
[22:01] <ghost_> what chat is this?
[22:02] <ghost_> is this umunu?
[22:02] <ghost_> mother fucker
[22:02] <Kuifje111> !shadowww
[22:03] <crucialhoax> where does ubuntu store its icons? I want to compile icons from different packages into one icon pack =)
[22:04] <himik> somewhere in /usr/share/pixmap
[22:04] <ZykoticK9> crucialhoax, have a look at both /usr/share/pixmap and /usr/share/icons
[22:04] <ghost_> irc.umunu.com
[22:04] <ghost_> hey niggas
[22:04] <th3Xfagtr> ??? where do I find theme packages and the like after i have marked them for installation - what file do they go into when installed?
[22:04] <Turbolinux> !language ghost_
[22:04] <maco> ghost_: thats not appropriate
[22:04] <ZykoticK9> ghost_, do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[22:04] <maco> ghost_: also, no advertising
[22:05] <guntbert> !ops | ghost racist comments
[22:05] <SeekTruth> Im new Ubuntu.  I have a problem that never used to happen in vista.  When I write text on a forum, sometimes firefox and the whole Ubuntu stops responding!  Whats going on? I thought Ubuntu was stable?  And how do I get out of it? I had to hard reboot my whole PC?
[22:06] <crucialhoax> ZykoticK9: Doing that now. thanks all
[22:06] <crucialhoax> =)
[22:06] <maco> guntbert: ya know, not everyone who says that is racist... sometimes it means "buddies"...depending on the person... which still doenst make it appropriate, just more in "give a warning" not "call the ops" range, IMO
[22:06] <ghost_> NIgguhs you got it all wronhg
[22:06] <sp> SeekTruth: last question first: yes, switching between operating systems works by rebooting your PC and no other way (except for virtualization, but that's another topic)
[22:06] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: crtl + alt + backspace or ctrl + alt + F1.
[22:06] <SeekTruth> anyone know what causes ubuntu to lock up and stop responding and what solution is?
[22:06] <guntbert> maco: please read his statements since joining
[22:06] <sp> SeekTruth: which version of Ubuntu are you running? graphics chipset? used driver?
[22:06] <aguitel> SeekTruth, maybe you use ubuntu pirate version
[22:07] <sp> SeekTruth: especially proprietary drivers can cause problems
[22:07] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: never mind. I thought your pc froze and wanted to get out of that.
[22:07] <maco> guntbert: oh i thought those were the first statements made
[22:07] <jpds> aguitel: wut.
[22:07] <maco> guntbert: oh dang. alrighty
[22:07] <SeekTruth> Kuifje111: i actually tried ctrl + alt + F1. but all it did was put me to a prompt and then I still had to reboot. Whats going on?
[22:07] <Rods_Tiger> is there anything in Linux that reads Pages documents?
[22:07] <ghost_> hello nigghus
[22:07] <Turbolinux> ghost_: Don't continue to being rude.
[22:07] <maco> ghost_: stop that
[22:07] <ghost_> Im drunk
[22:07] <ghost_> cant help it
[22:07] <crucialhoax> so leave
[22:08] <sp> SeekTruth: you could have gotten back to your graphical environment by pressing ctrl+f7 btw
[22:08] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: you can reboot from prompt. just enter "reboot". however the only way to switch O.S. is to reboot.
[22:08] <SeekTruth> anyone know what causes ubuntu to lock up and stop responding when I type messages on a webpage forum. and what solution is?  I had to do a hard reboot :(  Not good!  I thought Ubuntu was stable :(
[22:08] <sp> SeekTruth: again, which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:08] <sp> SeekTruth: which graphics adapter is in your system?
[22:08] <guntbert> maco: :)
[22:08] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: check "top".
[22:08] <jcsandima> hi, Id like add a static ip addr to eth0 in addition to dhcp
[22:08] <SeekTruth> Kuifje111: i dont want to switch os.. I only have Ubuntu
[22:08] <sp> jcsandima: ifconfig eth0:0 is the way to go
[22:08] <sp> jcsandima: ie: ifconfig eth0:0 x.x.x.x netmask y.y.y.y
[22:09] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: ok then. check "top" and see if there any processes generating high cpu load.
[22:09] <th3Xfagtr> where do packages go when you install them from the pkg mgr?
[22:09] <SeekTruth> sp: Ubuntu 9.10.  Laptop with Nvidia 8400 built in
[22:09] <jcsandima> hook like: ip addr add x.y.z/24 dev eth0
[22:09] <jcsandima> where can i save it so it is permanent
[22:09] <sp> SeekTruth: which graphics driver are you using? the proprietary one from nvidia?
[22:09] <SeekTruth> sp: i just installed Ubuntu 6 hours ago.. whatever came with it
[22:09] <sp> jcsandima: if you are using the eth0:0 way of doing things you can go ahead and edit /etc/network/interfaces
[22:10] <maco> SeekTruth: do the caps and numlock and sucklike lights flash when it locks? if so, thats a kernel panic
[22:10] <SeekTruth> sp: why would the video driver cause ubuntu to crash just by typing text on a forum?
[22:10] <Rods_Tiger> has anyone made the change from OS X to Linux 100%? What do you do to read the iLife docs?
[22:10] <SeekTruth> maco: no
[22:10] <sp> SeekTruth: you were most likely asked whether you want to enable a proprietary driver
[22:10] <jcsandima> ok ill try that thanks
[22:10] <Danielpk_> is there anyway to restore ubuntu install?
[22:10] <SeekTruth> what can I do the next time Ubunti locks up???
[22:10] <orangejuice> Question, how long does it generally take to load ubuntu from a USB? My loading screen has been going for ~10 minutes, I'm wondering if its stalled or if its just normal.
[22:10] <SeekTruth> sp: no i wasnyt
[22:10] <maco> SeekTruth: if not, it may just be graphics stuff being broken, in which case, enable ctrl+alt+backspace in your keyboard setting and you should be able to hit that key combo to force a logout instead of having to fully shut down
[22:11] <maco> lol @ that ident
[22:11] <sp> SeekTruth: did you install all available updates yet (through update manager)?
[22:11] <SeekTruth> so next time it locks up, I press ctrl+alt+backspace?
[22:11] <SeekTruth> sp: fully up to date
[22:11] <maco> SeekTruth: you have to enable that key combo in the keyboard settings
[22:11] <th3Xfagtr> ?????
[22:11] <SeekTruth> sp: there was 240MB updates after I installed
[22:11] <Turbolinux> Is there someone else who knows PhotoRec usage and it's preferences?
[22:11] <SeekTruth> maco: eh?
[22:11] <maco> SeekTruth: but if enabled it should just force a logout so you can log back in instead of having to go through the full reboot
[22:11] <deliverance> hey guys
[22:11] <crucialhoax> I installed the Ambience theme from 10.04 in 9.10 where does 9.10 keep it?
[22:12] <maco> SeekTruth: ctrl+alt+bksp is disabled by default. if you go to system -> preferences -> keyboard you should be able to enable it
[22:12] <kusemudel> hi guys can anybody tell me how to install pydev in eclipse?
[22:12] <Turbolinux> I need help urgently. Thank you.
[22:12] <SeekTruth> so next time it locks up, I press ctrl+alt+backspace?  anyone know how I get out of a lockup?
[22:12] <th3Xfagtr> need help finding some packages --
[22:12] <SeekTruth> maco: its not in system -> preferences -> keyboard
[22:12] <mj8741> Tried live cd of ubuntu 10.04 beta 2 - have nvidia geforce 6150 le graphics card - screen just stays blank.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
[22:12] <maco> SeekTruth: try ctrl+alt+backspace, but like i said you have to turn that feature on first...
[22:12] <SeekTruth> maco: where in system -> preferences -> keyboard?
[22:13] <crucialhoax> !lucid | mj8741
[22:13] <maco> SeekTruth: i dont use gnome, but somewhere in there should be advanced layout settings
[22:13] <SeekTruth> sp should I activate nvidia 185 drivers?
[22:13] <maco> SeekTruth: called "key sequence to kill the X server"?
[22:14] <sp> SeekTruth: if it isn't activated you could give it a try, yes
[22:14] <ZykoticK9> SeekTruth, in gnome System menu / then Preferences / then Keyboard
[22:14] <sp> SeekTruth: if it is activated, try deactivating it
[22:14] <crucialhoax> I installed the Ambience theme from 10.04 in 9.10 where does 9.10 keep it?
[22:14] <SeekTruth> maco: no. nithing in there says "key sequence to kill the X server"
[22:14] <maco> ZykoticK9: what does gnome call the ctrl+alt+bksp setting?
[22:14] <SeekTruth> maco: u new to ubuntu too I see
[22:14] <maco> SeekTruth: no
[22:15] <maco> SeekTruth: im an ubuntu developer actually, i just dont use this desktop environment
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> !dontzap
[22:15] <SeekTruth> ZykoticK9: how I fix Ubuntu if it freezes and locks up again?
[22:15] <maco> ZykoticK9: er thats not how you do it anymroe is it?
[22:15] <maco> ZykoticK9: its now a keyboard setting but i dont know what gnome calls it, only what kde calls it
[22:15] <minimec> crucialhoax: Probably /usr/share/themes
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> maco the link gives the gnome instructions
[22:15] <maco> ZykoticK9: ah ok
[22:16]  * maco thinks xavier ought to fix his connection
[22:16] <deliverance> anyone know anything about backtrack 4?
[22:16] <maco> deliverance: not in this channel
[22:16] <ZykoticK9> maco, it's still "Key sequence to kill the X server" but you need to select Layouts then Layout Options first SeekTruth
[22:16] <guntbert> !backtrack | deliverance
[22:16] <deliverance> o sorry which channel should i go to?
[22:16] <SeekTruth> sp: you think installing this 185 Nvidia driver will stop the freezing and lockups?
[22:16] <maco> ZykoticK9: ah. kde just calls it "advanced"
[22:16] <kusemudel> how can i install pydev?
[22:16] <guntbert> deliverance: see ^^^^
[22:17] <Slart> is there a way to run a specific app using another theme in gnome? my regular theme makes one specific app look very bad.. text is almost unreadable and so on
[22:17] <deliverance> o sorry it was the last one and wasnt done reading it ha ha thanks guys
[22:17] <crucialhoax> minimec: It is there but there are no icons...
[22:17] <SeekTruth> maco: you think installing this 185 Nvidia driver will stop the freezing and lockups?
[22:17] <minimec> crucialhoax: /usr/share/icons ... ? ;)
[22:17] <maco> SeekTruth: it may. lockups that arent kernel panics are usually caused by teh graphics driver wedging. though whether a new version actually has the bug fixed is a totally separate question
[22:17] <sp> SeekTruth: I can't tell for sure, but it's worth a try :)
[22:18] <crucialhoax> minimec: Does ambience still use the human icon set?
[22:18] <SeekTruth> im just a bit disapointed thats all.  one main reason I switched to ubuntu was I thought it was very solid and stable.  Never had a whole OS lock up on me before just typing a message on a web forum :(
[22:18] <maco> SeekTruth: nvidia wrote that driver, we didnt ;-)
[22:18] <Beyondinferno> histro: are you still here?
[22:18] <minimec> crucialhoax: I don't think so. It's some kind of tango, I think. I don't know the exact name.
[22:18] <crucialhoax> SeekTruth: What browser were you using when this happened/
[22:18] <SeekTruth> ive never even had crappy Vista lock up on me like this :P
[22:19] <crucialhoax> minimec: Its Humanity ;)
[22:19] <SeekTruth> crucialhoax: firefox which came with ubuntu
[22:19] <guntbert> jrib: is it unavoidable that the removals scroll the channel?
[22:19] <minimec> crucialhoax: Yeah ;)
[22:19] <maco> SeekTruth: nvidia probably pays more attention to the quality of their drivers for windows as its a bigger market
[22:19] <maco> SeekTruth: there is an open source driver called Nouveau, but i dont know how usable it is in 9.10. i believe itll be default for nvidia users in 10.04 though
[22:19] <crucialhoax> SeekTruth: What else was running?
[22:19] <jrib> guntbert: well you can block those messages in your client, but it's up to you
[22:19] <bigtom21485> what does this mean
[22:19] <bigtom21485> Apache/2.2.15 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.15 OpenSSL/0.9.8m DAV/2 mod_fcgid/2.3.5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at www.shoent.info Port 80
[22:19] <FloodBot4> bigtom21485: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:19] <SeekTruth> btw, do I really need NOSCRIPT addon for firefox?  Or cant any website scripts infect my Ubuntu?  I need to be careful cause I use a lot of netbanking etc
[22:20] <maco> SeekTruth: i use it because cross-site scripting is a problem regardless of OS
[22:20] <guntbert> jrib: ahh -- silly me (I thought I had blocked everything possible)
[22:20] <rohitsilentkille> i get unknown timezone error on logging into wiki.ubuntu.com
[22:20] <SeekTruth> ok ubuntu said I need to reboot ubuntu to activate the Nvida driver. brb
[22:20] <rohitsilentkille> pls help
[22:20] <SeekTruth> crucialhoax: nothing else was running
[22:20] <maco> SeekTruth: it may not be able to drive-by download something and hijack your whole machine, but doing bad things within the browser is of course still possible with JS enabled
[22:20] <SeekTruth> brb
[22:20] <elknof1> hi everyone, Im trying to set up a double boot system on a aspire one zg5 (aoa150), ive already installed windows xp sp3 and ubuntu 9.10, since i want to share files between partitions i used ext2ifs but when i tryed to acces the partition it showed me an error something that the partition has no format and asks me if i want to format it, of course i dont. Then idownloaded the utility from the page and it told me thet the partition was made with and inod
[22:21] <crucialhoax> SeekTruth: there was something that spiked a huge mem usage then
[22:21] <crucialhoax> minimec: Ubuntu-Mono-Dark
[22:21] <sp> elknof1: IIRC ext2ifs is lacking ext4 support... now if you formatted an Ubuntu partition as ext4 that won't work out
[22:22] <holmser> I am trying to set up file sharing between my laptop and desktop computer.  I have the file shared, I can see my desktop computer from the "network" window, but it keeps saying "failed to retrieve share list from server" when I try to browse it
[22:22] <holmser> any ideas?
[22:22] <elknof1> sp: no i didnt formatted as ext4, i did as ext3
[22:22] <n00b09> ** can you install ubuntu 64-bit on 64-bit intel cpus?
[22:22] <deliverance> im back ha ha
[22:22] <jpds> n00b09: Yes.
[22:22] <holmser> yeah n00b09
[22:22] <n00b09> danks
[22:23] <deliverance> maco??
[22:23] <SeekTruth> im back. how can I tell if the Nvidia driver is acvitated properly?
[22:23] <crucialhoax> SeekTruth: lsmod
[22:23] <maco> deliverance: whats up?
[22:23] <sp> elknof1: and you used the tool coming with ext2ifs to mount the ext partition?
[22:23] <SeekTruth> crucialhoax: this part? agpgart                34988  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[22:24] <deliverance> ha ha hey..... so i tried to join #backtrack-linux but wouldnt even let me connect and said i was banned??
[22:24] <elknof1> brb out to eat...
[22:24] <SeekTruth> so is that what everyone does when Ubuntu locks up?  they press ctrl+alt+backspace?
[22:24] <elknof1> sp: yes
[22:24] <maco> SeekTruth: for most of us it doesnt happen
[22:24] <Slart> SeekTruth: REISUB is also useful
[22:24] <SeekTruth> maco: i think Nvidia is running
[22:24] <sp> elknof1: sounds weird... is ubuntu in hibernate by any chance?
[22:24] <sloopy> ubuntu locks up?
[22:24] <SeekTruth> Slart: whats that?
[22:25] <crucialhoax> SeekTruth: I use ctrl+alt+f1 then kill the program
[22:25] <maco> sloopy: if you have crappy drivers, sure
[22:25] <elknof1> sp: never
[22:25] <guntbert> SeekTruth: no - my system doesn't lock up - I cannot remember such case within a year
[22:25] <SeekTruth> sloopy: yes. i was typing a message on a web forum and the whole thing just locked up :( Had to do a hard reboot
[22:25] <bigtom21485> anybody know what the best file sharing program is?
[22:25] <elknof1> sp: the solution is to format my ext3 partition with and inode size of 128 instead of 256...
[22:25] <maco> my last lockup was probably 18mo ago. my graphics driver was very very new and not very tested at the time
[22:25] <elknof1> but dont know how..
[22:25] <sp> elknof1: sounds weird... but to be honest I haven't played with ext2ifs in a while... could be a lot of things causing those problems for you
[22:25] <deliverance> how can i address my chat to a specific person?
[22:25] <maco> deliverance: say their name
[22:26] <Slart> SeekTruth: it's a .. well.. some kind of low-level thing.. you press alt+printscr and then R E I S U B .. each one does something specific,.. clears caches.. spins down hard drives etc.. the last one reboots the system
[22:26] <SeekTruth> crucialhoax: when I did ctrl+alt+f1 all i saw was a black screen
[22:26] <maco> deliverance: you can type the first couple characters then hit tab
[22:26] <maco> SeekTruth: with a login prompt?
[22:26] <meowbuntu> hi I have a serious error. after installing chromium browser .deb file. every time I open terminal it runs gedit instead. i have tryed to reinstall gnome terminal thru synaptic but that gives errors. i have also run fsck that will not fix the problem. any ideas would be appricated.
[22:26] <micko> hi guys, I have bought a Dell 1564 with i3 and I installed Ubuntu 9.04 and I have shitty graphics :( how to solve that please?
[22:26] <sloopy> maco, SeekTruth my question was rehtorical...
[22:26] <SeekTruth> maco: yes
[22:26] <maco> Slart: its alt+sysrq
[22:26] <deliverance> maco, like this
[22:26] <maco> Slart: that is *not* always the same as alt+printscr
[22:26] <elknof1> sp: ive done some research and is something with mkfs -I 128  but just dont know how to finish the line since my /dev/sda7 is the partition in question....
[22:26] <maco> deliverance: yep
[22:26] <SeekTruth> sloopy: well u got an answer anyway :)
[22:26] <Slart> SeekTruth: if you google for REISUB you'll get better info than I can give you.. it's basically just slightly better than just power-cycling it
[22:26] <micko> I tried Lucid beta and the graphics problem is solved, but it's highly unstable :(
[22:26] <crucialhoax> SeekTruth: Exactly. then you log in to the computer, then use ps -A | grep <open program name> then when you find it, killall <program name>
[22:27] <deliverance> maco: hmm i see i thought there was an automated way of doing it ha ha
[22:27] <maco> Slart: my sysrq and prtsc are next to each other. sysrq is fn+del
[22:27] <sp> elknof1: elknof1 you are aware of the fact that using that command will delete everything off that partition, right?
[22:27] <SeekTruth> crucialhoax: sounds complicated. i think ill just do a reboot :P
[22:27] <deliverance> maco: so did you see my question about the channel?
[22:27] <maco> deliverance: tab completion is the most automated that i know of
[22:27] <Slart> SeekTruth: as maco said.. it's the SysRq key... on my keyboard it is on the same key as printscreen.. you'll have to check your keyboard
[22:27] <maco> deliverance: um no.. i saw we sent you to #backtrack-linux and you left and now youre back and i dont know why
[22:27] <crucialhoax> SeekTruth: Actually it is not. And its easier on the Hard drive
[22:27] <sp> elknof1: however, if you do not need any other options mke2fs -I xxx /dev/sdXY should do the trick
[22:27] <SeekTruth> now that I have Nvida drivers instaled. what can I do to take advantage of it?  :)
[22:28] <sp> elknof1: if you are unsure about the options have a look at man mke2fs
[22:28] <deliverance> maco: i tried joining it but i didnt even connect and it said i was banned :(
[22:28] <micko> anyone please?
[22:28] <minimec> micko: <alt>f2 gnome-terminal, then lspci | VGA
[22:28] <crucialhoax> !lucid | micko
[22:28] <sp> elknof1: oh, and using mkfs.ext3 might be a better idea :)
[22:28] <meowbuntu> hi I have a serious error. after installing chromium browser .deb file. every time I open terminal it runs gedit instead. i have tryed to reinstall gnome terminal thru synaptic but that gives errors. i have also run fsck that will not fix the problem. any ideas would be appricated.
[22:28] <minimec> micko: tell me the results
[22:28] <orion_X11> SeekTruth, Install compiz-fusion for example
[22:28] <maco> SeekTruth: the REISUB thing lets your system properly sync the disk so you dont corrupt your filesystem. you know how you were always told "dont just turn it off, shut down, else youll screw up the hard drive?" REISUB is a manual shut down
[22:29] <SeekTruth> actually now I know my Nvidia drivers are installed because now windows have some sort of special effects when I open and close.. how I stop that? :P
[22:29] <micko> minimec: dude the graphic card is Intel which is integrated in the CPU
[22:29] <SeekTruth> maco: ok
[22:29] <Slart> !ccsm | SeekTruth
[22:29] <minimec> micko: Ok. Are you running 9.10?
[22:29] <micko> minimec: this is a common problem among people :)
[22:29] <maco> meowbuntu: can you go to a ctrl+alt+f1 terminal and type "less /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop" and check it doesnt say gedit anywhere in there? (i think thas the right path
[22:29] <micko> minimec: 9.04
[22:30] <deliverance> who are the mods in here?
[22:31] <maco> micko: by the way, dont say swear words
[22:31] <maco> deliverance: there are probably a dozen or so, why?
[22:31] <Slart> deliverance: you can check in #ubuntu-ops if you want to speak to them
[22:31] <randomusr_> hey all, is brasero capable of burning a bootable dvd image?
[22:31] <Slart> randomusr_: yes
[22:31] <micko> maco: swear words?!
[22:31] <minimec> micko: What should I say... Upgrade to 9.10 or wait for the 10.04 These distributions support kms (kernel mode settings) for your card.
[22:31] <maco> micko: you used the S word up there ^ i think
[22:31] <maco> deliverance: #ubuntu ops cant help you with getting unbanned from the backtrack channel
[22:31] <micko> minimec: I tried 9.10 but it doesn't work either!
[22:31] <randomusr_> Slart, I just burned the image and it's not bootable.... just a file
[22:32] <maco> deliverance: these channels are totally unrelated
[22:32] <meowbuntu> maco hold on i need to right that down
[22:32] <micko> minimec: tried Lucid and it solves the problem, but it's NOT stable at all :(
[22:32] <Slart> randomusr_: then you probably burned it as a data disc.. you need some kind of "burn image" option.. it's in there somewhere
[22:32] <maco> meowbuntu: dont forget you can use tab completion to finish the file name
[22:32] <maco> meowbuntu: you know how to get back to X right? hit ctrl+alt+f7 (or a higher number.. meh..it can vary)
[22:32] <minimec> micko: wait for lucid. It's probably the best.
[22:33] <deliverance> maco: but it was my first time every even trying to connect to that channel i dont know why im automatically banned before i have even tried connecting? doesnt seem right
[22:33] <micko> minimec: I need to use my computer!!! :(
[22:33] <micko> minimec: I'm a student
[22:33] <mosin> hola
[22:33] <maco> deliverance: probably someone else had your ip address before and its an old ban
[22:33] <mosin> a todos
[22:33] <Slart> randomusr_: it's the last button of the 5 you get when you start brasero..  there's Audio project, Data project, Video project, Disc copy and Burn image.
[22:33] <mosin> hola
[22:33] <maco> deliverance: i'll ask in there
[22:33] <deliverance> maco: really? your the best :D
[22:34] <randomusr_> Slart, i see, i just thought the default from a shortcut menu would burn an image
[22:34] <Slart> randomusr_: uhm.. I have no idea.. I don't think I've used that shortcut
[22:35] <IdleOne> deliverance: *!*root*@* is banned, that is why you can't join that channel
[22:35] <minimec> micko: Sorry... I don't know what you mean by shitty graphics. if you have to, modify your /etc/xorg.conf of your 9.04 install and use the basic vesa driver.
[22:35] <randomusr_> oh well
[22:35] <randomusr_> it's working now
[22:35] <micko> minimec: some people said that they modified xorg.conf and change vesa to Intel
[22:35] <deliverance> IdleOne: ha ha ya it said i shouldnt go into chat as root but i cant figure out how to get an account with non root privilages
[22:35] <meowbuntu> maco, it cant find it
[22:36] <micko> minimec: but I couldn't find the "vesa" part in that file
[22:36] <maco> deliverance: you need to change your ident
[22:36] <maco> deliverance: you're currently set to "root" as the name before the @ in your client. they dont allow people who are running as root
[22:36] <User_007> Hello, i have installed the last beta and i want to know how is it so fast after gdm
[22:36] <_pg_> securty/anonymity software (like Tor, PeerGuardian) does anyone have suggestions on other good programs or better places to ask?
[22:37] <_pg_> already tried at #tor- theyre all under the radar ;-)
[22:37] <SeekTruth> that website you gave me is not reveleant for me,  because nowhere does it say t "Key sequence to kill the X server"
[22:37] <deliverance> maco: how do i go about that.. i tried making a account with non root privilages but in the bash prompt it still had a $ after it instead of a #
[22:37] <SeekTruth> i cannot enable "Key sequence to kill the X server" because it dont appear in my keyboard layout.  Anyone help me enable it?
[22:38] <maco> meowbuntu: oh apparently theres no desktop file O_o ok... try "sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator"
[22:38] <minimec> micko: yeah... In 9.04 /etc/xorg.conf is still present but 'empty'... There should be some examples in the forums, dealing that problem.
[22:38] <maco> deliverance: $ is non-root. # is root
[22:38] <Slart> !dontzap
[22:38] <maco> deliverance: possibly its just a setting in your irc client
[22:38] <meowbuntu> maco, actually was my typo. no nothing about gedit there
[22:39] <SeekTruth> found it
[22:39] <Arch_NME> hi
[22:39] <deliverance> maco: ya but i also wanna change it on my os... in backtrack i think its opposite
[22:39] <deliverance> cause im pretty sure $ is root and # is non root
[22:39] <maco> deliverance: type "whoami"
[22:39] <SeekTruth> so now.. when Ubuntu locks up next time,. I just press ctrol+alt+backspace?
[22:39] <deliverance> maco: in the prompt??
[22:39] <maco> SeekTruth: yep. if theres a next time
[22:39] <maco> deliverance: yeah
[22:39] <SeekTruth> maco: :P
[22:39] <Arch_NME> does anyone know if there is something like the windows taskman in ubuntu?
[22:39] <deliverance> maco: alright
[22:40] <Slart> Arch_NME: system, administration, system monitor?
[22:40] <Arch_NME> slart: is there a hotkey to bring that up?
[22:40] <SeekTruth> maco: i need to add a user.  if i do that, no matter what he does in his account, it wont affect or infect my main account so my netbanking gets compromised etc?
[22:40] <meowbuntu> maco, is ctrl+alt+f1 same as terminal.
[22:40] <maco> SeekTruth: right
[22:40] <deliverance> maco: it just says the same thing in the prompt
[22:40] <Slart> Arch_NME: there probably is.. I don't know what it is though =)
[22:40] <SeekTruth> maco: ok cool
[22:40] <Arch_NME> hmm....
[22:41] <maco> meowbuntu: its a regular tty terminal. the terminal youre used to is a pretty terminal emulator inside of X
[22:41] <Arch_NME> I need hotkey because the issue I'm having is I'm playing team fortress and sometimes it freezes and I need to kill it
[22:41] <deliverance> maco: although you were right cause there is a # ha ha.. it says root@bt~#
[22:41] <SeekTruth> maco: how do I add a user.  the add button is ghosted
[22:41] <_pg_> to run tor on ubuntu, do I need to do anything besides install Vidalia?
[22:41] <maco> SeekTruth: is there an unlock button?
[22:41] <Arch_NME> but I can't browse through the menu like that to get to that system monitor
[22:41] <Slart> Arch_NME: tried ctrl+alt+f1?   note! Alt+F7 to get back
[22:41] <SeekTruth> maco: no
[22:41] <Arch_NME> slart: that brings you to the terminal correct?
[22:42] <Slart> Arch_NME: that will get you a TTY.. you can login and run something like top/htop or such
[22:42] <meowbuntu> maco, ok whats the command to see full app name again
[22:42] <Slart> Arch_NME: yup
[22:42] <SeekTruth> maco: ahh it says "click to make changes"
[22:42] <Slart> Arch_NME: or write things like  "pkill teamfortress" or whatever the process name is
[22:42] <Arch_NME> top/thop????
[22:42]  * meowbuntu its great to have helpful ppl like maco 
[22:42] <maco> SeekTruth: ive been using kubuntu for over a year so anything that changed in ubuntu since then i wont know about (the button *used to* say "unlock")
[22:42] <Arch_NME> it's running through wine
[22:42] <Slart> Arch_NME: top lists running processes, htop does the same thing.. but with colours... and more bling bling
[22:42] <deliverance> maco is pretty sick ill admit ha ha
[22:42] <Losha> _pg_: I used this the one time I used tor: http://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
[22:43] <maco> meowbuntu: thanks :)
[22:43] <Arch_NME> but I think the process would be like hl2.exe
[22:43] <maco> meowbuntu: do you mean "ps -ef"?
[22:43] <Arch_NME> oh I see
[22:43] <User_007> Hello, i have installed the last beta and i want to know how is it so fast after gdm. Does anyone know?
[22:43] <Slart> !lucid | User_007
[22:43] <maco> meowbuntu: or do you mean a way to click on a program and see what caused it? in that case "xprop"
[22:43] <Arch_NME> so go to the terminal run top the use kill "processname"
[22:43] <_pg_> Losha: Why only one time? lol thanks, I guess I want to know the diference btw the vidalia in add/rmove software vs that deb
[22:43] <deliverance> maco: so its still root ill just change it on irc i guess
[22:43] <SeekTruth> maco: so you are not a ubuntu developer for gnome, only for KDE?
[22:44] <maco> SeekTruth: right
[22:44] <The_Serpent> can anyone assist me with a hard drive question?
[22:44] <Slart> Arch_NME: well.. running top is just to see what processes is running.. perhaps find the name of the one that is misbehaving
[22:44] <SeekTruth> The_Serpent: believe so
[22:44] <maco> deliverance: its not a good idea to connect to irc as root though. not a good security policy
[22:44] <Slart> Arch_NME: you don't have to run top if you don't want to .. if you already know what the process is called, for example
[22:44] <Losha> _pg_: because tor was so slow I basically stopped using it ....
[22:44] <Arch_NME> slart: yeah I think I got it
[22:44] <SeekTruth> Losha: what u use instead of tor?
[22:44] <Arch_NME> I don't know the process name
[22:44] <The_Serpent> when i installed ubuntu i only gave it 17gb to use. how do i increase this size?
[22:44] <Slart> Arch_NME: and remember.. alt+f7 to get back
[22:44] <SeekTruth> The_Serpent: not possible
[22:45] <Arch_NME> got it
[22:45] <_pg_> Losha: yeah its slow, but when you have no other options, its fantastic to have.
[22:45] <erUSUL> The_Serpent: rsize the partition ?
[22:45] <meowbuntu> maco, not exactly but what does xprop do
[22:45] <maco> meowbuntu: tells you all the properties of a window
[22:45] <Arch_NME> slart: thanks
[22:45] <The_Serpent> how do i resize the partition?
[22:45] <Slart> Arch_NME: you're welcome
[22:45] <Arch_NME> hopefully this will work
[22:45] <SeekTruth> how can I install Opera?
[22:45] <Arch_NME> had to reboot twice already
[22:45] <Slart> !opera | SeekTruth
[22:45] <erUSUL> The_Serpent: leave the 17 GiB for root and move home to its own partition ? multiple options
[22:45] <maco> SeekTruth: er well...  actually i'm a motu, which means i maintain stuff in the universe and multiverse parts of the repo... basically anything thats not included on the cd. but i help out a bit on the kde stuff now that im a kde user. when i used gnome i helped out on that.
[22:46] <_pg_> torbutton for opera? is there such a beast?
[22:46] <SeekTruth> maco: cool
[22:46] <maco> deliverance: ok so you made a new user that *isnt* root, right? can you login to your gui as that user?
[22:46] <Losha> SeekTruth: I played about with some proxy sites, but basically I only use tor for one web site, very infrequently...
[22:46] <SeekTruth> Losha: how you install tor?
[22:46] <The_Serpent> how do i move home to its own partition? i have a 160gb drive lol
[22:46] <_pg_> Losha: ! p0rn
[22:47] <jussi01> !home | The_Serpent
[22:47] <SeekTruth> Losha: u use tor for pron?
[22:47] <IdleOne> deliverance: as a general rule you should only login as root when needed, for everyday use login as a normal user
[22:47] <erUSUL> The_Serpent: you can do it (depending on ther layout of partitions on disk) from a livecd with gparted
[22:47] <maco> SeekTruth: keep it family friendly
[22:47] <The_Serpent> thank you very much for your help
[22:47] <Losha> SeekTruth: nope, I get all my porn from usenet... :-)
[22:47] <deliverance> maco: ya i can now.. so i joined the backtrack channel but now when i try to chat it says cannot send to channel??
[22:47] <maco> deliverance: are you registered on the network?
[22:47] <maco> !register | deliverance
[22:48] <Losha> SeekTruth: http://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
[22:48] <meowbuntu> maco, ok but how to fix my terminal and installing stuff
[22:48] <deliverance> IdleOne: thanks im aware of that ha ha i just set it up today so i was just remembering how to do it
[22:48] <maco> meowbuntu: can you right click on the menu and go to edit?
[22:48] <IdleOne> deliverance: :)
[22:48] <maco> meowbuntu: maybe the Terminal shortcut in the menu somehow got turned into having "gedit" as its command?
[22:49] <trichomes> ati dual monitor suppot for 10.04 is jacked up. the live cd works but when I install it one of my monitors goes out
[22:49] <Arch_NME> hey slart
[22:49] <Arch_NME> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1145663
[22:49] <Slart> Arch_NME: yes?
[22:49] <Arch_NME> check out that link there
[22:49] <trichomes> monitor detection doesn't work hmm
[22:50] <deliverance> IdleOne: so now it says i cant register while banned.. even though i connected??
[22:50] <Slart> Arch_NME: yes.. looks sensible.. tried it?
[22:50] <meowbuntu> maco what menu
[22:50] <elmojo> anyone else experiencing the Applications menu not showing anything in Lucid Beta2?
[22:50] <Arch_NME> yep folled that and it works nice
[22:50] <Losha> !lucid | trichomes
[22:50] <maco> meowbuntu: ok.. lets bck up. you say when you try to launch the terminal you get gedit. thats when you launch from the menu right?
[22:50] <IdleOne> deliverance: you lost me, what says you can't register?
[22:50] <Arch_NME> we will see if it works once a game freezes up though
[22:50] <maco> meowbuntu: so if you right click on your menu (i'm assuming gnome), there's an option to edit the menu right?
[22:50] <meowbuntu> maco, even the main app in /usr/share/bin points to gedit
[22:51] <minimec> trichomes: I was working on dual screen setup with 10.04 installed on HP LAptop with a ati Rradeon 9600 mobility. Working like charm. never worked like that...
[22:51] <Arch_NME> I'll keep yall posted
[22:51] <maco> meowbuntu: you mean /usr/bin/ right?
[22:51] <EagleWatch> can I install KDE on ubuntu? or I have to install Kubuntu?
[22:51] <deliverance> IdleOne: im in the backtrack channel... you told me to register.. but it pops up a message saying cant register in #backtrack-linux while banned???
[22:51] <meowbuntu> maco and that i checked all
[22:51] <minimec> trichomes: Make the changes with the gui tool and then logout/login
[22:52] <IdleOne> deliverance: never seen that before, try leaving the channel then register
[22:52] <The_Serpent> i do not have a disc driver.  is it possible to resize the partition while in windows? (i have ubuntu and 7 on dual-boot)
[22:52] <The_Serpent> drive*
[22:52] <deliverance> IdleOne: k ill try it
[22:52] <maco> meowbuntu: ok what were the errors when you tried to reinstall gnome-terminal?
[22:52] <kerebrus> Having webcam trouble, worked in 6.09 but not in 6.10, lsusb doesn't show the device now.
[22:52] <elknof1> sp: sorry, went to eat, yeah Ive read something about mkfs.ext3, but i dont know how to finish the line with the -I 128 parameter, yes I know everything in the partition will be deleted, i just read it a cvouple of hour ago, so i did my bckup...
[22:52] <trichomes> i've tried all the linux kung fu
[22:52] <IdleOne> deliverance: you also need to identify after registering. /msg nickserv identify password
[22:52] <elknof1> sp: could you help me to do the whole line?
[22:53] <meowbuntu> maco it thinks there another synaptic may be running.
[22:53] <erUSUL> kerebrus: 6.10 ??? that's too old ...
[22:53] <erUSUL> !eol | kerebrus
[22:53] <calum> Eaglewatch: I think you will have to install kubuntu if you want the entire desktop to be KDE
[22:53] <rn114> hi, i'm running karmic, but would like to use the ocaml packages from lucid as i'm using batteries included
[22:53] <rn114> is this straightforward?
[22:54] <kerebrus> Sorry meant 9.10 and the previous version
[22:54] <DeliveRance29237> IdleOne: ya let me register but still wont let me chat
[22:55] <The_Serpent> i do not have a disc drive. is it possible to resize the home partition while in windows? (i have ubuntu and 7 on dual-boot)
[22:55] <maco2> meowbuntu: is there an apt-get/aptitude/update-manager running?
[22:55] <erUSUL> The_Serpent: you should not resize paritions of a disk that is in use (no matter what OS)
[22:55] <elknof1> The_serpent: have you tryed partition majic on win?
[22:55] <meowbuntu> maco
[22:56] <maco2> The_Serpent: boot from a flash drive?
[22:56] <kerebrus> Reposting fixing my mistake: Having webcam trouble, worked in 9.something but not in 9.10, lsusb doesn't show the device now.
[22:56] <maco2> meowbuntu: yeah?
[22:56] <The_Serpent> oh ok and since its on my laptop hard drive.  i could boot from a flash drive
[22:56] <The_Serpent> ?whats partition majic
[22:56] <calum> The_Serpent: Yeh, I was going to suggest a flash drive as well, sounds like the best idea
[22:56] <Losha> rn114: mixing versions from different repositories is unsupported, and could easily all go horribly wrong.
[22:57] <meowbuntu> maco, i get this "unable to read /etc/apt/prefferances.d -file exisits (2: no such file)
[22:57] <perex> hello
[22:57] <The_Serpent> do i just want to run the ubuntu iso or a flash drive?
[22:57] <calum> The_Serpent: It is a partitioning program for Windows
[22:57] <The_Serpent> off*
[22:57] <rn114> Losha, isn't this similar to selecting someones PPA for a particular package?
[22:57] <elknof1> can someone help me doing this line    mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda7 -I128   ...   something...  hahaha I just dont know how to do it but is sort of what im trying
[22:57] <The_Serpent> calum - can i use it while running the partition?
[22:57]  * meowbuntu thinks maco and maco2  are same person y on earth 
[22:58] <t3chkommie> hey guys looking for some sore of web interfac program for ubuntu server where you can upload and download files from a broswer. any ideaS?
[22:58] <calum> The_Serpent: I think you have to unmount the partition first, I am not sure
[22:58] <magicianlord> Does anyone have a fix for the speakers not muting when headphones are plugged in in kernel 2.6.33?
[22:58] <magicianlord> My laptop is now affected by this.
[22:58] <maco2> meowbuntu: two irc clients running. the maco one is still syncing with the server
[22:58] <maco2> meowbuntu: sudo mkdir /etc/apt/preferences.d
[22:58] <The_Serpent> i have 7 on the big partition and made the mistake on only alloting 17gb for linux =( lol
[22:59] <magicianlord> meow!
[22:59] <meowbuntu> maco2, ok who are you using
[22:59] <erUSUL> !intelhda  | magicianlord
[22:59] <maco2> meowbuntu: im about to switch back. the maco one just finished reconnecting
[22:59] <elknof1> The_serpent: partition majic is a win based program to manage partitions, since youll be working with win and not with linux (if not using some IFS mounter) it will not be mounted, so u can manage them, with a little risk but worth it...
[22:59] <calum> The_Serpent: 17GB is way enough for Linux, unless you want more space
[22:59] <The_Serpent> now if i use a flash drive do i have to turn it into a bootable drive or just copy the iso onto it?
[22:59] <whileimhere> Hi I am using Ubuntu. I am also on verizon DSL When I run a speed test for my connection it tells me that I only get about a 0.44Mb/s download rate but I am supposed to have a 1.0Mb/s download rate. I called verizon up and of course they do not support linux. Anyone know why it would be this slow if my phone line passed the verizon testing?
[22:59] <maco> meowbuntu: im back over ehre
[23:00] <The_Serpent> oh ok that makes sense now actually
[23:00] <erUSUL> The_Serpent: use the usb disk creator or unetbootin
[23:00] <calum> The_Serpent: It has to be bootable
[23:00] <erUSUL> The_Serpent: to make a bootable usb flash drive
[23:00] <magicianlord> the problem is with the new kernel. and that page does not have the specific issue
[23:00] <The_Serpent> ill just go with the software you suggested.  that should be the easiest solution
[23:00] <Losha> rn114: in principle it is, and it probably works ok for small individual apps, but when I said different repos above I really meant different os version repos. Try it if you like, but be sure your current system is fully backed up before you start. Or consider building what you need from source instead...
[23:00] <The_Serpent> what was the name of that one more time?
[23:01] <calum> The_Serpent: Partition magic
[23:01] <rn114> Losha, ok its fine i'll just wait 20 days for lucid! no problem :-)
[23:01] <The_Serpent> ok sweet.  i will go dl that.  thank you very much
[23:01] <calum> The_Serpent: Your welcome.
[23:02] <Manrugby> nss linux
[23:02] <meowbuntu> maco, its annoying not having  gnome-terminal etc i cant cut paste in pastebin what ooutput is arg
[23:02] <nss> benboussa :D
[23:02] <Losha> rn114: um, it will probably be a couple of months before 10.4 is actually stable. These things tend to be wobbly at first...
[23:02] <Manrugby> :d
[23:02] <Manrugby> kayen wahed le nick smiytou chraybi :o
[23:02] <nss> yak ma?
[23:02] <IdleOne> meowbuntu: ctrl+shift+c doesn't work?
[23:03] <phibxr> Manrugby: what language is that? :P
[23:03] <meowbuntu> maco, basicly gnome-terminal seems to ber installed
[23:03] <maco> IdleOne: gnome terminal is broken
[23:03] <nss> lol
[23:03] <maco> IdleOne: meowbuntu is using tty1
[23:03] <meowbuntu> IdleOne, to do what
[23:03] <maco> meowbuntu: idle was saying the copy shortcut for gnome terminal. missed the first half of convo
[23:03] <meowbuntu> maco,  i am using ctrl+alt+f1
[23:03] <Manrugby> language of troll
[23:03] <Manrugby> :d
[23:03] <nss> phibxr it's a moroccan dialect written with english letters :D
[23:03] <Manrugby> nss stfu
[23:03] <rn114> Losha, it's just a single package i really need: ocaml batteries included. i've just compiled it from source, so problem over really
[23:03] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: launch a xterm ?
[23:04] <meowbuntu> maco so he did
[23:04] <meowbuntu> how
[23:04] <phibxr> nss: o.O
[23:04] <Losha> rn114: a much better solution, good job...
[23:04] <meowbuntu> erUSUL, have you been following
[23:04] <nosse1> Hi. Is there some simple app to show something on fbdev?
[23:04] <Manrugby> (_|_)
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, was it you that was trying to get volume mouse scroll wheel to work a while ago?  notice it's working now :)
[23:04] <nss> hhh
[23:04] <IdleOne> meowbuntu: sorry, nm me :)
[23:04] <nss> chnou hadak?
[23:04] <maco> !ops | Manrugby gibberishing and ascii-arting
[23:04] <IdleOne> ZykoticK9: yeah! been working for a week or so now :)
[23:04] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: not much. your menu does not work properly ?
[23:05] <maco> meowbuntu: you said hat /usr/bin/gnome-terminal points to gedit, right? like a symlink, you mean?
[23:05] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, i just notice yesterday by accident
[23:05] <IdleOne> ZykoticK9: I kept trying and then one day it worked
[23:05] <meowbuntu> erUSUL, gnome terminal opens gedit after i installed chromium .deb (webbrowser not game)
[23:05] <t3chkommie> !ajaXploer
[23:06] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: and alt + f2  gnome-terminal does launch gedit too ?
[23:06] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, how are you opening terminal?
[23:06] <meowbuntu> maco, no it opens gedit even the origional link in /usr/bin does. its like gnome terminal was reconfigured from ground up
[23:06] <Arch_NME> well.... the results
[23:07] <Arch_NME> the system monitor will launch with that hotkey setup
[23:07] <maco> IdleOne: is /usr/bin/gnome-terminal supposed to be a symlink to begin with? (no gnome, i cnat test)
[23:07] <jason_Xubuntu> arch_NME... are using arch linux?
[23:07] <meowbuntu> ZykoticK9, any way i do it from menu or directly from /usr/bin/
[23:07] <Arch_NME> no ubuntu
[23:07] <Arch_NME> just my name
[23:07] <jason_Xubuntu> ah
[23:07] <maco> jason_Xubuntu: nme = enemy, shortened
[23:07] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: well do alt + f2 launch xterm would be easier than using crtl + alt + f1
[23:07] <Arch_NME> been using it since like quake1
[23:07] <Arch_NME> anyway...
[23:07] <gigawatt> youtube and hulu in firefox keep crashing, how can i get firefox to spit out an error message i can work with
[23:07] <meowbuntu> erUSUL, there is no differance lol
[23:08] <Arch_NME> yeah the thing with ctrl alt f1 then top worked
[23:08] <IdleOne> maco: I don't even know how to check for what you are asking me :/
[23:08] <maco> meowbuntu: alt+f2 is a runbox. are you saying both gnome-terminal AND xterm open gedit?
[23:08] <Arch_NME> I like that better as well I think because that would work on any computer with prior setup
[23:08] <maco> IdleOne: ls -l /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[23:08] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: no is not a symlink
[23:08] <nss> with simple compiz config when i set cube and i incresed the number of desktops to 4 i got a crash message
[23:08] <Losha> gigawatt: try #firefox next if you get no joy here...
[23:09] <meowbuntu> i know what alt-f2 is i using ubuntu for 8 months i know how to use not terminal much though
[23:09] <nss> i'm using lucid
[23:09] <IdleOne> maco: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 268028 2010-03-26 07:47 /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[23:09] <maco> Losha: isnt that on irc.mozilla.org?
[23:09] <maco> IdleOne: ok thats what i suspected
[23:09] <ZykoticK9> nss, try reasking in the Lucid channel #ubuntu+1
[23:09] <meowbuntu> xterm is another gnome-terminal right
[23:09] <maco> meowbuntu: try "sudo rm /usr/bin/gnome-terminal" to get rid of that symlink then try "sudo aptitude reinstall gnome-terminal" from ctrl+alt+f1
[23:09] <nss> ok thank you
[23:09] <paul3333> hi, using envyNG and my monitor's only getting max 800x600 rez, can anyone help?
[23:10] <maco> meowbuntu: its another terminal emulator, but its a different binary so even if gnome-terminal's is broken, it should still work
[23:10] <meowbuntu> well gnome-terminal is a front end for xterm ay
[23:10] <maco> meowbuntu: xterm is just less pretty
[23:10] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: no is the orignal terminal emulator of the Xwindow system (way back in 80's) XD
[23:10] <maco> meowbuntu: but...did you get apt working yet anyway?
[23:10] <petter__> 2.6.24-19-rt on ubuntu 9.04 and the kernel seems to be loading a 169.x nvidia driver, but the system glx is 180something. how to resolve?
[23:10] <Losha> maco: there's one on freenode, though it does list channels on irc.mozilla.org if the freenode one is unresponsive...
[23:10] <maco> Losha: ah
[23:10] <meowbuntu> thanks guys i have now changed the termin icon in menu to point to xterm
[23:11] <maco> root: running as root is a dangerous plan
[23:11] <root> spoking spanish so anibody
[23:11] <maco> !es | Guest57989
[23:11] <BigUrsis> Is there a way to force check / ?
[23:11] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: that's just papering over the issue; you should find out what happened to your gnome-terminal installation
[23:11] <erUSUL> BigUrsis: sudo touch /forcefsck
[23:11] <auk> i upgraded from 9:10 to 10.4 yesterday
[23:12] <erUSUL> BigUrsis: reboot
[23:12] <maco> meowbuntu: ok so now that you have xterm and can copy and paste.... what does apt-get say?
[23:12] <erUSUL> !lucid | auk
[23:12] <BigUrsis> erUSUL, so ubuntu 9.10 dose honor that?
[23:12] <auk> now the keyboard works only in one of 2 user accounts
[23:12] <paul3333> hi, using envyNG and my monitor's only getting max 800x600 rez, can anyone help ?
[23:12] <auk> erUSUUL: i know :(
[23:12] <Guest57989> Heyy anibody ............ speaking spanish I dont't spoking
[23:12] <erUSUL> BigUrsis: well to be fair its been a long time since i checked if it works ...
[23:12] <auk> *USUL
[23:12] <erUSUL> !es | Guest57989
[23:12] <erUSUL> auk: #ubuntu+1
[23:12] <BigUrsis> nm I was trying  forcecheck not forcefsck
[23:13] <auk> erUSUL: oh, thank you
[23:13] <Guest57989> ok
[23:13] <auk> i'll go there
[23:13] <erUSUL> auk: good luck
[23:13] <auk> thx :)
[23:13] <meowbuntu> ok another question what is better in ubuntu google chrome or chromium browser
[23:13] <nosse1> You guys know of a fb app that I can use to output something on the display?
[23:14] <epaphus> Hey guys.. all that sabayon does is edit the gconf... right?? is that the only file it edits?
[23:14] <Danielpk_> Some1 can help with crontab?
[23:14] <erUSUL> nosse1: can you be more precise?
[23:14] <erUSUL> !cron | Danielpk_
[23:14] <petter__> how to properly set up nvidia/glx in 9.04? if "Hardware drivers" in GNOME doesn't even offer the ability to install it? I've gotten kernel module/glx conflicts galore...
[23:15] <Danielpk_> i followed a tuto and it say to crontab -e with some * * * i dont know what it mean
[23:15] <nosse1> erUSUL, I just need an app that creates an output on a framebuffer. Colorbars or something simple as that
[23:15] <dr3mro> is this normal or a bug try this in terminal and watch memory and cpu usage  "for i in `seq 1 300000000000000000` ; do echo $i ;done"
[23:16] <petter__> I've removed all other traces and tried to install nvidia-glx-180 but nothing works :/
[23:16] <paul3333> hi, using envyNG and my monitor's only getting max 800x600 rez, can anyone help ??
[23:16] <gigawatt> ok i just tested my bug, and it seems that youtube crashes in both firefox and chrome
[23:16] <erUSUL> nosse1: you can run an entire Xserver in fb --> xserver-xfbdev
[23:16] <calum> What is the latest version of rootkit hunter?
[23:17] <hiexpo> anonr know what a good lyrics app is ?
[23:17] <hiexpo> anyone
[23:17] <dr3mro> is this normal or a bug try this in terminal and watch memory and cpu usage  "for i in `seq 1 300000000000000000` ; do echo $i ;done"
[23:17] <frxstrem> can anyone recommend a good and easy FTP server for Ubuntu?
[23:17] <meowbuntu> maco it says this when i try to remove gnome-terminal  sudo mkdir /etc/apt/preferences.d
[23:17] <meowbuntu> gssapi-krb5-2':
[23:17] <meowbuntu>  field name `Installed-Size;' must be followed by colon
[23:17] <meowbuntu> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[23:18] <nosse1> erUSUL, no I cant run xserver yet, because I'm debugging fbdev....
[23:18] <calum> frxstrem: I found something called wuftp in the repos, give it a try. I don't know what it is like though
[23:18] <frxstrem> calum: okay, thanks :)
[23:18] <maco> meowbuntu: gssapi-krb5-2 is broken then...  try purging it with dpkg.  "sudo dpkg -P gssapi-krb5-2" ?
[23:18] <gigawatt> hey how can i get firefox to spit out debug messages???
[23:19] <cable> need some with installing something
[23:19] <hiexpo> !ask
[23:19] <[1]Freeloop> My screen is not detected on 9.10 when I run it on VMWare. Running VMware tools OK, but still no good. What to do?
[23:20] <punchyou> hello i just got my unbuntu cd in the mail. which one is the live cd. I have ubuntu and kubuntu.
 i just installed libmtp and i am having trouble withit
[23:20] <AK> hey how can I record Sound recorder to my own voice via internal microphone. I can play record while playing music but not my own voice
[23:20] <meowbuntu> meowbuntu@meowbuntu-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -P gssapi-krb5-2
[23:20] <meowbuntu> dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 3906 package 'libgssapi-krb5-2':
[23:20] <meowbuntu>  field name `Installed-Size;' must be followed by colon
[23:20] <cable> i tried sudo apt-get install libmtp
[23:20] <meowbuntu> maco, seems to be anb auto error
[23:21] <cable> and the terminal said that it cannot fond file
[23:21] <dr3mro> is this normal or a bug try this in terminal and watch memory and cpu usage  "for i in `seq 1 300000000000000000` ; do echo $i ;done"
[23:21] <dr3mro> exit
[23:21] <dr3mro> quit
[23:21] <AK> Sound Preferences : hardware profile - Analog Stero Output and Out Connector - Analog Output
[23:21] <dr3mro> bye bye
[23:21] <maco> meowbuntu: looks like you install gssapi-krb5-2 and that package was packaged wrong
[23:22] <hiexpo> libmtp is in the repos
[23:22] <cable> what do you mean repo?
[23:22] <punchyou> does ubuntu 9.10 desktop edition also work as a live cd?
[23:22] <paul3333> can anyone help me with screen resolution problems?
[23:22] <Freeloop> punchyou: yes
[23:22] <erUSUL> maco: or he just got filesystem corruption; which can explain both issues...
[23:22] <hiexpo> punchyou, yes
[23:22] <punchyou> ok thank you
[23:22] <meowbuntu> maco, all i did was install the chromium browser .deb file
[23:22] <maco> erUSUL: ooh thats true...
[23:23] <AK> hey how can I record Sound recorder to my own voice via internal microphone. I can play record while playing music but not my own voice.
[23:23] <AK> Well Sound Preferences settings : hardware profile -> Analog Stero Output and Output Connector -> Analog Output
[23:23] <meowbuntu> maco, i got the package from here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-chromium-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-using-deb-package.html
[23:23] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: you should do a fsck of the root partition from a livecd ...
[23:24] <ZykoticK9> cable, you're probably looking for - libmtp8 - Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) library
[23:24] <hiexpo> its it synaptic
[23:24] <cable> it is for creative zen media player
[23:24] <meowbuntu> erUSUL, it did fsck when booting
[23:24] <AK> Download  and install the  package directly from the website
[23:24] <AK> http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html
[23:25] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: can you check if you have something in /lost+found/ folder?
[23:25] <meowbuntu> ok i will do again then from live cd thru gparted then
[23:25] <cable> I wiki-ed the player and the website they sent me to was libmtp for this particular player
[23:25] <macman_> hey all
[23:26] <cable> sup patna
[23:26] <paul3333> can anyone help me with screen resolution problems?
[23:27] <meowbuntu> erUSUL, i have several files there
[23:27] <hiexpo> system/administration/hardware drivers
[23:27] <paul3333> common...in the name of ubuntu :)
[23:28] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: that means that there was corruption and that fsck moved files there. maybe it was fsck the one who moved gnome-terminal form its place
[23:28] <Abtomik> meatbun are you there?
[23:28] <Abtomik> conf is sent
[23:28] <ZykoticK9> paul3333, what graphics card are you using?
[23:28] <erUSUL> !fixres | meowbuntu
[23:28] <erUSUL> !fixres | paul3333
[23:29] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: sorry the fixres thing was not for you
[23:29] <AK> hey how can I record Sound recorder to my own voice via internal microphone. I can play record while playing music but not my own voice.
[23:29] <AK> Well Sound Preferences settings : hardware profile -> Analog Stero Output and Output Connector -> Analog Output
[23:29] <cable> where are files located
[23:29] <Abtomik> Guys can anyone help me with phase 2 issue?
[23:29] <meowbuntu> !image
[23:29] <Abtomik> 7|Apr 10 2010 00:27:18|715047: Group = x.x.x.x, IP = x.x.x.x, processing hash payload
[23:29] <Abtomik> 7|Apr 10 2010 00:27:18|715047: Group = x.x.x.x, IP = x.x.x.x, processing notify payload
[23:29] <Abtomik> 7|Apr 10 2010 00:27:18|715075: Group = x.x.x.x, IP = x.x.x.x, Received keep-alive of type DPD R-U-THERE (seq number 0x1554)
[23:29] <Abtomik> 7|Apr 10 2010 00:27:18|715036: Group = x.x.x.x, IP = x.x.x.x, Sending keep-alive of type DPD R-U-THERE-ACK (seq number 0x1554)
[23:29] <Abtomik> 7|Apr 10 2010 00:27:18|715046: Group = x.x.x.x, IP = x.x.x.x, constructing blank hash payload
[23:29] <FloodBot3> Abtomik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:29] <Abtomik> 7|Apr 10 2010 00:27:18|715046: Group = x.x.x.x, IP = x.x.x.x, constructing qm hash payload
[23:30] <hiexpo> !flood
[23:30] <Vigo> cable: Do you use CLI or GUI?
[23:30] <cable> i guess gui
[23:30] <Zenker> is there a program that i can burn an avi to a dvd that will play in a dvd player?
[23:30] <erUSUL> Zenker: devede
[23:30] <Vigo> cable: Ok, Places>Home
[23:31] <cable> i have gnome enviro
[23:31] <Zenker> awsome thank you erUSUL
[23:31] <cable> ok how can i locate file from applications menu?
[23:32] <hiexpo> zenker devede
[23:32] <Sia--> in /usr/share/applications/ * .desktop cable
[23:32] <erUSUL> Zenker: no problem
[23:32] <hiexpo> i was slow was looking at the hack
[23:33] <Vigo> cable: See Places?
[23:34] <deagle> hello all
[23:34] <Vigo> cable: just mouse over them.
[23:35] <deagle> i'm trying to install ubuntu, but every time i install from the liveCD GRUB won't work
[23:35] <Sia--> deagle, hi
[23:36] <linux3> hello.  I am trying to get a logitech Quickcam for Notebooks (046d:08dd) setup with cheese
[23:36] <erUSUL> !webcam
[23:36] <Sia--> deagle, use minimal one or text based install, i know installing linux wuth _GU_I is ***
[23:36] <Sia--> linux3, try to install cheese
[23:37] <deagle> Sia-- eh?
[23:37] <deagle> text based install?
[23:38] <linux3> my webcam is not listed with the ID it shows
[23:39] <linux3> cheese shows a picture, but its like one static shot that does not update
[23:39] <Sia--> deagle, yes
[23:40] <deagle> how do I go about that?
[23:41] <Sia--> !tell deagle about alternate CD
[23:42] <deagle> but it installed fine before o.O
[23:42] <Gadwil> I just re-installed Karmic and all updates.  Anyone know why Firefox is showing up as Namoroka?
[23:42] <doctorZeus> should I expect any errors or required system changes if I upgrade my CPU?
[23:42] <peppo> anyone on 2.6.24-19-rt on 9.04?
[23:42] <Sia--> deagle, use minmal CD
[23:42] <Sia--> maybe you CD is broken
[23:42] <Rods_Tiger> which channel has beer?
[23:42] <IdleOne> Rods_Tiger: not this one
[23:42] <linux3> how do i determine if I need a different driver for my logitech quickcam for notebooks ?
[23:43] <Gadwil> doctorZeus, You shouldn't notice anything, as long as your BIOS supports the new CPU.
[23:44] <epaphus> Hey guys.. all that sabayon does is edit the gconf... right?? is that the only file it edits?\
[23:45] <doctorZeus> Gadwil, thanks.  understand, concerned moreso with if ubuntu would have any problems.
[23:45] <linux3> webcam anyone?
[23:45] <ZykoticK9> epaphus, i don't understand your question.  Sabayon is a distro of linux, based off of gentoo.
[23:46] <Sia--> linux3, check the ubuntu wiki for you webcam model
[23:46] <epaphus> ZykoticK9, there is an application called sabayon to edit gnome appearance
[23:46] <Guest84022> Hello all
[23:47] <Alan502> Hi, would someone help me getting my microphone work with audacity?
[23:47] <ZykoticK9> epaphus, ahhh, i've never heard of it.  good luck man.
[23:47] <Gadwil> Alan502, Will your microphone work with any other program?
[23:48] <Alan502> Gadwil, yes, i've tried with skype and it does work
[23:48] <wilder> +i
[23:48] <Sia--> Alan502, with skype? you have change or chose another input channel
[23:49] <Alan502> Sia--, yes, i've tried all the input channels
[23:49] <Gadwil> Alan502,  Try opening Audacity when it is the only program that can access the microphone, sometimes other programs interfere.
[23:49] <Alan502> but still none of them lets me get clear voice :(
[23:49] <Gadwil> What does it give you besides a "Clear voice"?
[23:50] <rebelstar> hey all, ctrl key is not functioning...what could be done ( it works on windows though)
[23:50] <Alan502> idk a buzzy sound
[23:50] <Sia--> Alan502, and what is about gamix or gnome alsamixer?
[23:50] <linux3> well xawtv worked just now, how do I get cheese to stream my video?
[23:50] <Alan502> Sia--, should i get you a screenshot of my alsamixer?
[23:51] <Gadwil> Alan502, Is anything around interfering with the microphone?  Wired or Wireless?
[23:51] <rebelstar>  hey all, ctrl key is not functioning all of  a sudden .what could be done ( it works on windows though)
[23:51] <Sia--> Alan502, UBUTNU using not alsamixer or advanced like gamix
[23:51] <Alan502> Gadwil, it's a wired microphone... nothing interfering it i guess
[23:51] <Sia--> install gamix and play with options and volumes
[23:51] <ironfoot495> I had to use fsck due to loosing ubuntu 9.10 how do
[23:52] <joyfulgirl> Howdy, folks. I'm helping a friend debug wireless on her new Ubuntu install, but I'm not an Ubuntu user myself. She's correctly installed the b43 wireless driver + firmware, but neither Ubuntu's wireless manager nor `ifconfig -a' is aware of any wireless interfaces.
[23:52] <Alan502> Sia--, ok
[23:52] <ironfoot495> i get the xubuntu desktop back with out loosing data??
[23:52] <linux3> the id# is different in the wiki than than output of my webcam
[23:52] <Sia--> ironfoot495, yes
[23:52] <Sia--> just install it and change you GUI session to xubuntu
[23:53] <rebelstar>  hey all, ctrl key is not functioning...what could be done ( it works on windows though)
[23:53] <jbobsully11> My computer has about 3 different versions of Ubuntu installed on it; how can I get rid of some of those?
[23:53] <joyfulgirl> I've been googling a bit, but so far nothing's helped (the wl driver was already unloaded, she's rebooted, installing aircrack-ng has produced no change...)
[23:53] <jbobsully11> I'm dual booting w/Windows
[23:53] <Gadwil> jbobsully11, Do you mean the extra Kernels?
[23:53] <jbobsully11> possibly
[23:54] <linux3> can xawtv output be used for live chat?  how?
[23:54] <jbobsully11> at the first menu to select an operating system, it has 2 versions (I forget what they are exactly) and Windows
[23:54] <Gadwil> jbobsully11, Install the "startup-manager" package (w/o quotes) and tell it to only show 1, also set it to show a recovery, just in case you need it.  I wouldn't remove the older kernels.
[23:54] <ironfoot495> Sia--: I used fsck to restore my  ubuntu 9.10 server. I'm at the login but it doesn't let me see the desktop is ther a way?
[23:54] <jbobsully11> thanks
[23:55] <Guest67793> I'm dual booting XP/Ubuntu 9.10 and I'm planning to upgrade my processor, will anything happen to my Ubuntu partition?
[23:55] <trinikrono> ironfoot495: it doesnt let you login?
[23:55] <happyface> what plugin is this page using? I can't figure it out: http://www2.tsn.ca/window/Masters2010/Default.html?loadtime=1270853304364&reloads=3
[23:55] <epicblusta> Hello, people. Has anyone installed Ubuntu 9.10 over VirtualBox or VMWare Fusion in OSX?
[23:55] <ironfoot495> you're write is there  a way?
[23:55] <trinikrono> epicblusta: it should work lol
[23:55] <trinikrono> ironfoot495: did you lose the password i mean
[23:56] <ironfoot495> I can become root though!
[23:56] <ironfoot495> No
[23:56] <trinikrono> because you can go in the recovery mode and reset it
[23:56] <trinikrono> what does it say then
[23:56] <trinikrono> when you try to login
[23:56] <Moral_> Just installed updates to kernel 31-20... Now it wont boot... "udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured. Settle is not permitted while udev is unconfigured. svgalib: cannot open /dev/mem
[23:56] <Moral_> then it dropped me to a shell
[23:56] <ironfoot495> I tried startx but it does'nt respond!!
[23:56] <ironfoot495> GDM does'nt work either.
[23:57] <trinikrono> it wont allow root to start x
[23:57] <trinikrono> make a next user
[23:57] <trinikrono> and try to start x from there
[23:57] <_pg_> best security/stealth/paranoid distro? anyone
[23:57] <ironfoot495> OH! ok!
[23:57] <ZykoticK9> happyface, even using the Windows version of Firefox (in wine) I can't figure out what plugin TSN is using.  Best of luck.
[23:58] <happyface> ZykoticK9: I've tried chrome, firefox, IE, ie compat in windows and linux and read the source... can't figure it out
[23:58] <epicblusta> trinikrono: lol. Well, that's the thing. It doesn't. When i'm installing I get a libx86.so1 error. Apparently my hard drive is damaged over a ivirtual machine? what can it be?
[23:58] <trinikrono> epicblusta: which ubuntu you said?
[23:59] <trinikrono> 9.04?
[23:59] <epicblusta> trinikrono: 9.10
[23:59] <trinikrono> try 9.04 lol
[23:59] <trinikrono> see if it does the same thing
[23:59] <epicblusta> trinikrono: well, sounds like sound advise, lol.
[23:59] <Moral_> wow I'm gonna have to reinstall ubuntu AGAIN