[09:22] <jordanl> how do i enter the grub menu during bootup?
[09:23] <jordanl> i need to test a kernel option
[09:23] <jordanl> but i don't get a grub menu selection
[09:23] <jordanl> it boots straight to the ubuntustudio splash screen
[19:13] <Brnocrist> hi
[19:14] <Brnocrist> i've tried ubuntu studio on vmware, but it doesn't start X server
[19:14] <Brnocrist> is this normal?
[19:56] <Brnocrist> mm
[21:04] <holstein> Brnocrist: the install?
[21:04] <holstein> no x?
[21:04] <holstein> its not a live DVD
[21:04] <holstein> i dont know why X wouldnt start otherwise...
[21:08] <Brnocrist> i've the .iso
[21:08] <Brnocrist> start it with vwmare
[21:08] <Brnocrist> and it installs
[21:08] <Brnocrist> but at reboot doesn't show me X
[21:25]  * holstein got busy there
[21:25]  * holstein reading
[21:26] <holstein> Brnocrist: have you googled around to see any Vmware issues?
[21:26] <Brnocrist> yep
[21:26] <holstein> i cant imaging it not working
[21:26] <Brnocrist> but there isn't
[21:26] <holstein> hmm
[21:26] <Brnocrist> me too
[21:26] <holstein> how about normal ubuntu?
[21:26] <holstein> have you got that installed in vmware?
[21:26] <holstein> on your box?
[21:26] <holstein> or have you?
[21:27] <Brnocrist> it works
[21:27] <Brnocrist> :)
[21:27]  * holstein has only used virtualBox
[21:27] <holstein> hmm
[21:27] <holstein> WELL
[21:27] <holstein> is it karmic?
[21:27] <holstein> the one that wokrs?
[21:27] <Brnocrist> yep
[21:27] <holstein> works*?
[21:27] <Brnocrist> 9.10
[21:27] <holstein> karmic studio that wont boot?
[21:28] <holstein> or lucid?
[21:28] <Brnocrist> karmic
[21:28] <holstein> hmmm
[21:28] <Brnocrist> ubuntustudio-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[21:28] <holstein> that is interesting
[21:28] <holstein> can you get into the recovery console?
[21:29] <Brnocrist> hmmm
[21:29] <Brnocrist> wait
[21:29] <Brnocrist> when i start vmware with that iso
[21:29] <holstein> and i dont konw about amd64
[21:29] <holstein> know*
[21:29] <Brnocrist> (same on x86)
[21:29] <holstein> there could be something particular to that
[21:29] <holstein> hmmm
[21:29] <Brnocrist> it boots and don't show me splash with selection
[21:29] <Brnocrist> it start the ncurses installation
[21:29] <holstein> well...
[21:29] <Brnocrist> and without selection
[21:30] <Brnocrist> just start and reboot automatically
[21:30] <Brnocrist> and show me the tty login
[21:30] <Brnocrist> i login
[21:30] <Brnocrist> type "startx"
[21:30] <holstein> and nothing
[21:30] <holstein> hu
[21:30] <Brnocrist> startx comamnd not found
[21:30] <holstein> h
[21:30] <holstein> OH
[21:30] <holstein> thats interesting
[21:31] <Brnocrist> yea
[21:31] <holstein> to be honest
[21:31] <holstein> i do not install ubuntu studio anymore
[21:31] <holstein> i do to test, and check it out
[21:31] <holstein> BUT i just add the studio packages to the vanilla install
[21:31] <Brnocrist> i've tried 9.04 too
[21:31] <holstein> !vanilla
[21:31] <Brnocrist> same beaivour
[21:32] <holstein> if you read that
[21:32] <holstein> even the instructions for hardy are the same for karmic
[21:32] <holstein> and lucid AFAIK
[21:32] <Brnocrist> the problem is the boot
[21:32] <Brnocrist> i cant select nothing
[21:32] <holstein> yup
[21:32] <holstein> you can go to your other ubuntu install
[21:32] <holstein> and just install studio packages
[21:32] <holstein> whatever studio pacakges you want
[21:32] <Brnocrist> uhm
[21:32] <Brnocrist> how?
[21:33] <holstein> sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-*whatever*
[21:33] <holstein> if you go..
[21:33] <holstein> into synaptic
[21:33] <holstein> and search ubuntustudio
[21:33] <holstein> you can see the metapackages
[21:33] <holstein> and read about them
[21:33] <holstein> ALSO
[21:33] <Brnocrist> ok
[21:34] <Brnocrist> but it's weird
[21:34] <holstein> lucid is beta 2
[21:34] <holstein> SO you could get a daily for that
[21:34] <holstein> and try it too i suppose
[21:34] <Brnocrist> yep
[21:34] <holstein> its weeks away from final
[21:34] <Brnocrist> i try this iso on dvd
[21:34] <Brnocrist> and boot on native pc
[21:34] <holstein> it will want to install though
[21:35] <holstein> not a live DVD
[21:35] <Brnocrist> yea
[21:37] <holstein> Brnocrist: can you try something?
[21:37] <holstein> in the non-X having install?
[21:38] <holstein> hmm
[21:38] <holstein> im not convinced this will do anything
[21:38] <holstein> http://locoteam.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4319685
[21:40]  * holstein gotta run
[21:40] <holstein> good luck