[02:22] <Planetary> help, a powersurge happened and now my computer boots into terminal. reboot same that
[02:22] <Planetary> same thing
[02:23] <Planetary> control alt f7 makes teh screen go black with just a cursor
[02:23] <Planetary> how do i start xfce
[02:42] <Planetary> i have tried everything i can find. xfdesktop. startxfce4....  whats up
[06:25] <jdlfg_> good evening
[07:21] <hexdump_> Hi all, I have something very weird going on
[07:21] <hexdump_> I type df -l and seems my free space just keeps getting less and less
[07:45] <psycho_oreos> probably some app is using it, which mount?
[08:01] <hexdump_> gawd I don't get it, I added my ip to ssh and I can't connect however if I set my firewall to allow ssh connections from anywhere there are no problems
[08:04] <hexdump_> I think I found the problem
[08:50] <hexdump_> is there a way to boot xubuntu without gui?
[08:58] <TheSheep> you can switch to text console with alt+ctrl+f1
[08:59] <hexdump_> TheSheep:  yeah I know thank you, but I would like to just boot up with no gui cuz my computer is a tad bit slow
[09:12] <SandGorgon> hi guys.. I'm interested in trying out xfce in my office. Just a quick question, do u guys access windows shares in xfce ? any user-friendly way, if possible - our users are non geeks
[12:41] <alekto> http://erxz.com/pb/24663 - How can i make Perl execute this $load command (It is for perl sockets)?
[17:19] <Arpad2> hello
[17:56] <Sachse_Siechtum> hello Arpad2
[17:57] <Arpad2> hello Sachse_Siechtum
[18:01] <Sachse_Siechtum> Arpad2, how you doing?
[18:06] <Arpad2> im ok
[18:06] <Arpad2> thx
[18:07] <Arpad2> for how long are you using linux?
[18:10] <robertzaccour> what differences are there between gnome and xfce on a 64 bit?
[18:11] <psycho_oreos> none
[18:11] <robertzaccour> psycho_oreos, same performance?
[18:12] <psycho_oreos> robertzaccour, probably same
[18:12] <robertzaccour> oh, so xfce is more for lower spec hardware?
[18:12] <psycho_oreos> well it was, it somewhat is but the requirements are still fairly high
[18:13] <robertzaccour> so its more about looks than performance?
[18:14] <psycho_oreos> xfce is less about looks and a bit more about performance but the performance gain is minimal on i386
[18:15] <robertzaccour> so minimal on i386 and none on i686?
[18:16] <psycho_oreos> ...
[18:17] <psycho_oreos> first its a good idea to educate yourself about computers before asking more absurd questions i686 != x86_64
[18:18] <robertzaccour> psycho_oreos, oops sorry lol thought that looked weird how i typed it
[18:19] <robertzaccour> i see the benefits of xfce on 32 bit, so what do people use xubuntu 64 bit for? if not for performance i mean
[18:19] <psycho_oreos> and do read up about what actual performance gains one usually gets when running a 64bit OS as compared to a 32bit OS, the same rule of thumb applies globally
[18:19] <psycho_oreos> have you not read what 64bit actually does?
[18:19] <robertzaccour> psycho_oreos, yes, it utilizes more ram and processing power
[18:20] <psycho_oreos> no quite far from it, go read about 64bit
[18:22] <Sachse_Siechtum> Arpad2, for about 4 months
[18:26] <Sachse_Siechtum> psycho_oreos, do you have a wikipedia entry or should I just search for "64 bit"?
[18:26] <psycho_oreos> Sachse_Siechtum, wikipedia has a place where you can query for articles
[18:26] <robertzaccour> seems 64 bit is more for multi-tasking
[18:27] <psycho_oreos> not exactly
[18:28] <psycho_oreos> there's no difference between a 32bit ubuntu and a 64bit ubuntu, much the same theory goes with 32bit xubuntu and a 64bit xubuntu
[18:29] <psycho_oreos> err not much performance gains*
[18:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> 64 bit can adress more than 4 gbyte of RAm directly
[18:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> RAM
[18:29] <robertzaccour> i have 4
[18:30] <bazhang> !info linux-pae-generic
[18:30] <bazhang> whoops
[18:30] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm but 64 has a disadvantage on smaller programs
[18:31] <Sachse_Siechtum> 64bit
[18:31] <bazhang> !info linux-generic-pae
[18:31] <psycho_oreos> and not all programs/drivers can work with 64bit
[18:31] <bazhang> to use 4GB with 32bit^^
[18:37] <Arpad2> how can xubuntu see the window drives on my pc without mounting these drive on every each session?
[18:37] <psycho_oreos> make it automount?
[18:37] <bazhang> fstab ?
[18:38] <Arpad2> thx for idea psycho_oreos, bazhang
[18:38] <Arpad2> how can i do these actions?
[18:38] <bazhang> !fstab
[18:39] <psycho_oreos> !samba
[18:40] <Arpad2> i have samba installed
[18:40] <Arpad2> but thx for the hints
[18:40] <psycho_oreos> see the first link... re: mount windows shares permanently
[18:41] <Arpad2> ok :)
[18:45] <Arpad2> one another question: what does it mean at the start up (GRAB) : recovery mode for xubuntu. i can choose between normal and recovery mode?
[18:45] <psycho_oreos> you meant GRUB, and yes
[18:45] <Arpad2> grub
[18:45] <Arpad2> :)
[18:45] <Arpad2> sorry
[18:45] <psycho_oreos> GRand Unified Bootloader
[18:46] <Arpad2> so whats the idea of the recovery mode? when should i start in recovery mode? it starts automatically with normal mode
[18:47] <Sachse_Siechtum> does miro tv show youtube videos? because I just installed it...and it shows the site but no video...
[18:49] <psycho_oreos> Arpad2, recovery mode is useful when you have configured something incorrectly and that option allows you to recover (I don't think automated) and use normal mode again, depends on which version of xubuntu you have
[18:50] <psycho_oreos> I don't think its automated recovery*
[18:50] <Arpad2> karmic koala
[18:50] <psycho_oreos> yeah it'll be grub2 to activate the menus, I don't know which hotkeys
[18:50] <psycho_oreos> !grub2
[18:52] <Arpad2> so its good if I want to go to the OS prior to the changes
[18:52] <Arpad2> it doesnt effect applications
[18:52] <Arpad2> for instance if I forget to save some data:)
[18:52] <psycho_oreos> sort of, depends on how dramatic the changes, all it is, is a different initrd and kernel, the base is still the same
[18:53] <psycho_oreos> no, forgetting to save personal data won't be recovered using that method
[18:53] <Arpad2> ok, thx, that was I thinking
[18:53] <Arpad2> i just havent saved a new password
[18:54] <Arpad2> and the old pc froze
[18:54] <psycho_oreos> actually no it boots into single mode, same kernel and initrd, but allows you to recover root password, etc
[18:55] <Arpad2> ok, thank you
[18:55] <psycho_oreos> s/recover/change
[18:55] <Arpad2> it wasnt root password, it was password for an application
[18:56] <psycho_oreos> depends on the application, but chances are it won't help it
[18:56] <Arpad2> so retrieving that wont help a recovery start
[18:56] <Arpad2> keepass
[18:56] <Arpad2> x
[18:57] <Arpad2> nevermind
[18:58] <psycho_oreos> unless the program uses pamd and honours the /etc/passwd && /etc/shadow file, otherwise its useless
[18:59] <Arpad2> so unless keepassx makes some kind of a log file?
[19:00] <psycho_oreos> probably, I never used keepassx
[20:56] <slow-motion> hi
[20:57] <vinnl> Hey
[21:37] <m1ke_l> hello.  I run xubuntu but don't have any toolbars or icons (by choice) but would like a graphical wireless network package
[21:39] <br0ken> hey can anyone tell me if xubuntu still supports xbox?
[21:40] <br0ken> !help
[21:41] <br0ken> anyone? please
[21:42] <m1ke_l> ubottu:  hmmm...if that was for me i just noticed i didn't ask my quetino...thats wierd.   can anyone recommend a wireless network manager app?
[21:42] <m1ke_l> i'm not a bot, but please dont' think i'm intelligent
[21:44] <br0ken> anyone?
[21:45] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm
[21:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> m1ke_l, do you take a look in the "apps" section of xubuntu?
[21:47] <Sachse_Siechtum> ..
[21:47] <m1ke_l> no sorry....at xubuntu.com somewhere or in Ubuntu's synaptic?
[21:50] <Sachse_Siechtum> nope click on "applications" and on "add and remove apps"
[21:51] <br0ken> Sachse_Siechtum dont suppose you know if xubuntu still supports instalation on the old xbox?
[21:52] <m1ke_l> thanks
[21:53] <Sachse_Siechtum> br0ken, http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Download
[21:54] <br0ken> cheers mate
[21:55] <br0ken> one last q, is it all versions or 0.9 which is linked as a dl on that site, sorry for all the qs lol
[22:11] <pleia2> br0ken: xUbuntu is different than xubuntu
[22:12] <pleia2> xUbuntu for the xbox is what you're asking about, this is for xubuntu which is an ubuntu version built around the xfce desktpo
[22:12] <pleia2> so you'll have to track down the folks responsible for xUbuntu and ask them (not here)
[22:15] <icthis3t7> hey i'm trying to install xubuntu and it brings up a login screen. whats the username/password?
[22:15] <icthis3t7> (9.10 live cd)